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Re: YADIS in one sentence

in my opinion, hitting people with new buzzwords that they don't know either tends to turn them off, unless they;re taliking to you to fish for buzzwords. I would say "YADIS currently offers a single-sign-in service for blogs, so you don't have to make an account on a blog service you don't normally use just to leave a comment." (What? 2.0? Web has existed for over a decade and they're only on version 2?) On 2/18/06, Joseph Holsten <pantosys@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Short version: "Yadis ties services to your Web 2.0 identity" > > Long version: > "A Web 2.0 Identity exists on the web. So it must be a URL. If anyone > knows you by a URL, you've got a web identity. Web 2.0 gives us > distributed services all around the web. So a Web 2.0 Identity needs > to be tied into the services you need and use. That is what Yadis does." > > J. A. P. Holsten -- David L Nicol "You give it away like free samples" -- mudhoney

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Fwd: YADIS in one sentence

Ya know, my term for the new web is: the new web. I don't use the term, and believe the use of version numbers as evil anyway. How you could apply version 2.0 to the web, without referring to protocols, is beyond me. But if you don't think these words are convincing, use other ones. I'm assuming we're talking to someone who will be impressed by buzzword bingo. No two pitches are the same. Use your best judgement. YMMV. If your target needs blog features, or single-sign-on, then that's great. But here's my buzz-free pitch: "If anyone knows you by a web address, than you've got a web identity. And all around today's web we can find interesting distributed services. So you need a way to tie your web identity to the services you need and use. That is what Yadis does." And now, here's another small sentence yet: "Yadis ties your web identity to the services you need and use." On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:01 PM, David Nicol wrote: in my opinion, hitting people with new buzzwords that they don't know either tends to turn them off, unless they;re taliking to you to fish for buzzwords. I would say "YADIS currently offers a single-sign-in service for blogs, so you don't have to make an account on a blog service you don't normally use just to leave a comment." (What? 2.0? Web has existed for over a decade and they're only on version 2?) On 2/18/06, Joseph Holsten <pantosys@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Short version: "Yadis ties services to your Web 2.0 identity" Long version: "A Web 2.0 Identity exists on the web. So it must be a URL. If anyone knows you by a URL, you've got a web identity. Web 2.0 gives us distributed services all around the web. So a Web 2.0 Identity needs to be tied into the services you need and use. That is what Yadis does." J. A. P. Holsten -- David L Nicol "You give it away like free samples" -- mudhoney Joseph Anthony Pasquale Holsten 24R E 24th St Tulsa OK 74114-2406 mailto:joseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xmpp:pantosys@xxxxxxxxx tel:+1* 918 813 2447

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RE: push

This has been discussed a good deal on the ID Workshop mailing list. Should get onto that and search the archives. --David (from Belize) ________________________________ From: yadis-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Joaquin Miller Sent: Sat 2/18/2006 10:36 AM To: YADIS list Subject: push >OpenID, LID and XRI are all "Pull" oriented architectures. In my >discussions, I have not felt there was interest in learning the >issues of a "Push" oriented architecture. I'd like to learn the issues of a push oriented architecture. I must be behind the curve, because I don't know where pushing comes into play here, so i'd like to learn that, too. Cordially, Joaquin

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RE: push

It can be found at http://groups.google.com/group/idworkshop --David -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Holsten [mailto:pantosys@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:57 PM To: David Recordon Cc: yadis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: push On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Recordon wrote: > This has been discussed a good deal on the ID Workshop mailing list. > Should get onto that and search the archives. I'm trying to stfw, but ID workshop, identity workshop, id workshop mailing list, etc. aren't giving me any answers. Is there a link, or more specific description you can give? Joseph Anthony Pasquale Holsten 24R E 24th St Tulsa OK 74114-2406 mailto:joseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xmpp:pantosys@xxxxxxxxx tel:+1* 918 813 2447