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Subject: alt.usenet.reposts (AUR) and alt.usenet.reposts.d (AURd) Frequently Asked Questions
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        alt.usenet.reposts (AUR) and alt.usenet.reposts.d (AURd)
                       Frequently Asked Questions

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Subject: 0. Invocation and introduction

O Muse, all contributions to alt.usenet.reposts (AUR) are welcome, 
providing their posts conform to the posting guidelines contained in 
this document.  Please read it before posting anything to AUR.

This is also the FAQ for alt.usenet.reposts.d (AURd). 

The latest version of this FAQ can be found here:
<ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/usenet/reposts-faq>
<ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.answers/usenet/reposts-faq.Z> (compressed)

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Subject: 1. Table of contents

     0. Invocation and introduction     
     1. Table of contents
     2. What is AUR?
     3. How to do it
          3.1. Participating in AUR
          3.2. How to post to AUR
          3.3. Uppity news software
     4. What you should not do in AUR
          4.1. Discussions
          4.2. Unwelcome communications
          4.3. Cascades
          4.4. Crossposts
          4.5. Self-abuse
          4.6. Non-articles
     5. What to post to AURd
          5.1. Mission statement 
          5.2. Discussing articles
          5.3. Protocol questions
     6. What is missing from this version of the FAQ
     7. Credits and valediction

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Subject: 2. What is AUR?

AUR is alt.usenet.reposts.  Like some other newsgroups, it has a 
purpose.

The newsgroup alt.usenet.reposts was created to contain articles that 
people have read in other newsgroups that other people might find 
amusing or interesting:  There are tens of thousands of groups out 
there, and even if you wanted to, you could not read them all.

For the purpose of AUR, "Usenet" encompasses all newsgroups, not just 
the classic "Big Eight" hierarchies.

AUR is meant to offer a broad range of useful information, witty 
rejoinders, cute newbie antics, and stimulating flame wars, all of which 
you can observe from here in perfect safety.  (Metaphor only.  Actual 
perfect safety not guaranteed.)

AUR differs from rec.humor.funny in that, inter alia, it is limited to 
reposts of Usenet articles, and from alt.humor.best-of-usenet in that 
(1) it is unmoderated and (2) it is not limited to humorous material.  
Any newsgroup article of interest to a wide audience may be reposted to 
AUR.  Another cognate group is alt.best.of.internet (ABOI), which, 
though like AUR as to points 1 and 2, does not limit its reposts to 
Usenet.

AUR is for reposting only.  Please do not post any original articles or 
existing reposts (e.g., articles found in alt.humor.best-of-usenet) to 
AUR.

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Subject: 3. How to do it

3.1. Participating in AUR

AUR is an unmoderated newsgroup.  Anyone can post to AUR as long as his 
posts conform to the guidelines of this FAQ.

Please subscribe to AURd if you read AUR.  It will be useful if there 
are any important changes to the group, or if a discussion gets going 
about some post.  Stranger things have happened.  (Subject: 5 contains 
information on AURd.)

AUR is based on participation.  AUR gets nowhere if people do not bother 
to post.  So please, when you are reading other newsgroups, keep AUR in 
mind.  Reposting an article does not take very long if you know what you 
are doing, and, for that matter, even if you do not.

3.2. How to post to AUR

   [a] Read a newsgroup other than AUR.  Remarkable articles are found 
   in unlikely places.

   [b] Find an article (not a binary or a repost) that is funny, 
   entertaining, intelligent, thought-provoking, or otherwise 
   interesting.  If you like the article, and you think others might 
   want to read it, that is perfect.  And if they do not like it, that
   is one of the things AURd is for.

   [c] Historically, AUR formatting has been rather flexible within 
   certain limits.  Here is a suggested procedure: 

      (i) "Follow up" the article, but instead of leaving the 
      "Newsgroups:" header as you find it, delete all of the groups
      and substitute "alt.usenet.reposts".  

      (ii) In addition, create a "Followup-To:" header that contains 
      "alt.usenet.reposts.d".  In addition, you may include the 
      originating group, but be careful to put any moderated groups at 
      the end of the list.     

      (iii) Be sure that there is something at the top of the new 
      article's body (the old headers or a clear introductory line) 
      that tells the name of the newsgroup where you found the article 
      and the name in the original "From:" header.  

      (iv) Append "AUR: " to the beginning of the "Subject:" header's 
      argument.  If your newsreader added a "Re: " to the original 
      subject line, remove it.

      (v) Your comments about the article may be added at the top of 
      the body; these should be brief, and probably not be substantive 
      with respect to the theme of the article.  Shorten or excerpt
      the original article only in extreme cases, but do not otherwise 
      "improve" it.  Any elisions, or comments that you put in the
      body of the article, should be clearly distinguishable from the work 
      of the original author. 

   [d] Any method other than "following up" that gets essentially the 
   same results is acceptable.  In fact, it is preferable to use a 
   method that does not add a layer of backquote symbols to the
   original article.

   [e] If all this is just too overwhelming, simply e-mail the article 
   (including as much of the headers section as possible) to <aur-
   edit@eey.org> and we shall take care of it for you.  (This offer
   may be administered capriciously and withdrawn at any time.  Void where 
   taxed or restricted.)

   [f] Here is an example of one of the several proper ways to format
   an AUR article.  The first three lines are headers, not the body of the 
   article.

      Subject: AUR: The Wacky World of Wardrobes
      Newsgroups: alt.usenet.reposts
      Followup-To: alt.usenet.reposts.d,alt.wardrobe.moderated

      The unintended results of those ridiculous wardrobe import 
      controls can lead to some funny moments, as:

      Jane Q. Public <jqp@eey.org> writes in alt.wardrobe.moderated:

      >The other day a Colombian wardrobe being held in the warehouse 
      >of a customs broker near Miami International Airport suddenly 
      >burst open, engulfing a friend of mine in a mysterious white,
 
      [snip]

3.3. Uppity news software

Problem: "I cannot post this article because my news server says 'Error 
441: More quoted than new text'."

Delete the column of backquote characters on the left end of each line.  
(These are usually ">".)  Then the news server cannot tell which is the 
quoted text.  Make sure the reader of the article still can.

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Subject: 4. What you should not do in AUR

4.1. Discussions

Do not discuss articles posted to AUR in this group.  AUR is only for 
reposting articles.  AURd (alt.usenet.reposts.d) is the place to discuss 
articles posted to AUR--in fact, this is exactly what AURd was created 
for.  (Subject: 5 contains information on AURd.)  To reply to an article 
posted in AUR use your newsreader's "reply" command, and be sure that 
the "Newsgroups:" header of the new article does not contain 
"alt.usenet.reposts". 

4.2. Unwelcome communications

Do not use AUR for your own advertisements, web site promotion (even if 
nonprofit), general announcements or appeals (including virus warnings 
and personals), other spam, or general irrelevancies.  (Have we missed 
anything?)

Those who post such messages in AUR should not be surprised if AUR 
readers use various lawful means, including forceful and repeated 
complaints to addresses such as <postmaster@___.com>, <root@___.org>, 
<abuse@___.net>.  This has been known to work.

On the other hand, if you find the article in one of the taboo 
categories to be interesting or funny then by all means repost it.

4.3. Cascades

Do not build huge, irrelevant, cumulative threads in AUR.  Threads 
called cascades are usually one-line posts that continue a rhyme or a 
theme.  Most people resent having to deal with them.  Those who do like 
them can go to alt.cascade and rec.humor.

4.4. Crossposts

Articles to AUR should not be crossposted.  A crosspost is an article 
with more than one group in the "Newsgroups:" header.  As the default, 
replies to crossposts will appear in every group in which the original 
article appeared.  If someone "follows up" with a reply to a message 
crossposted to AUR, the reply will appear in AUR, thus creating an 
original article.  But original articles are off-topic for AUR, since 
AUR is only for reposts.  What a mess.

Exception:  Crossposting reposts to ABOI is usually tolerated, since 
ABOI is also a reposts group.  If you do this, remember to put AURd in 
the "Followup-To:" header.

Clarification:  This is not intended to rule out putting more than one 
group in your own repost's "Followup-To:" header, or otherwise 
crossposting to AURd.

4.5. Self-abuse

Do not repost your own article to AUR.  

When you repost to AUR, you have to make a judgment call:  You have to 
decide whether a certain article is good enough to deserve being 
reposted.  This is your sacred right.  (Offer limited to certain Western 
democracies, and, even then, metaphor only.  Actual sacred right not 
guaranteed.)  

Unfortunately, this means that just about anybody can post just about 
anything, as long as it was originally posted somewhere else.  Because 
some people tend to think that their writing is funnier or more 
interesting than it actually is, self-reposting usually induces eventual 
remorse.  So please do not repost articles you wrote yourself.  If your 
article is really good, someone else may conceivably discover it.  Sorry 
about this rule, but it is something that must be done.

4.6. Non-articles

Do not post non-articles, such as messages from mailing lists or WWW 
pages to AUR.  Find a more appropriate group.  Try rec.humor for jokes, 
ABOI or another group for other kinds of messages, to AUR.  If it is on 
Usenet in any form, you can repost it to AUR.  Otherwise, take it 
somewhere else.

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Subject: 5. What to post to AURd

5.1. Mission statement 

AURd was created as a safety valve for AUR.  Basically, anything related 
to AUR that is not a repost can be posted to AURd.  If you want to start 
a discussion and you cannot post to AURd, please e-mail the FAQ-keeper 
(eeyore@eey.org>), who can post your question to AURd for you and get 
the discussion going.  Of course if you cannot post to AURd the odds are 
overwhelming that you cannot read it either, so you will miss the 
ensuing discussion.  Well, no sense worrying about that now.

5.2. Discussing articles

If you want to discuss an article posted to AUR, you have a few options.  
You can use e-mail if you want to reply only to one person, such as the 
author of the original article.  But take care that you're not replying 
to the reposter instead, by mistake.  You can also "follow up" to the 
group that the article came from if you think your reply would be on 
topic.  Unfortunately, sometimes it is hard to tell whether your reply 
will be on-topic, especially if the original article was obviously off-
topic.

A third option is to post to AURd.  AURd can be used for general 
discussion of the articles posted to AUR.  Or, if you have something to 
add to an article you reposted to AUR, you might post it to AURd as a 
reply to your own article.

5.3. Protocol questions

Questions of group protocol can be posted to AURd if you are having 
problems.  Also, if you have a suggestion for AUR, start a discussion in 
AURd.  Some, and perhaps all, readers of AUR read AURd and would be 
interested in hearing suggestions.  The rules of AUR are not set in 
stone, but new policies have to be approved, or at least discussed, by 
AUR readers in general.  The FAQ-keeper makes no material rule changes 
without a stab at consensus.

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Subject: 6. What is missing from this version of the FAQ

Previous versions of this FAQ contained an abundance of uplifting words 
touching on Usenet customs and manners.  Fortunately for those who wish 
to read helpful exhortations in this vein, there remains the ABOI FAQ, 
from which the great preponderance of that writing was closely adapted.  
It is at <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/best-of-internet-faq>.

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Subject: 7. Credits and valediction

This FAQ is a ruthlessly abbreviated and otherwise roughed-up adaptation 
by the present FAQ-Keeper (<eeyore@eey.org>) of the one previously 
adapted by FAQ-keeper Emeritus Marcus Lauer (<melauer@uclink4.berkeley.edu>),
to whose spirit AUR owes more than can be properly said here, from

Matti Haack's ABOI FAQ.  This in turn was based on an older FAQ
created by Malinda McCall, a/k/a net.goddess (<mmcall@unix.cc.emory.edu>),
and Onno Benschop (<o.benschop@info.curtin.edu.au>). 

Thanks are also due to:

<stremler@rohan.sdsu.edu>
<dom@i-cubed.demon.co.uk>
<jon@etrigan.demon.co.uk>
<jsdy@cais.com>
<huttone@peak.org>

and others, whose names are lost in the mists of time, who helped 
correct mistakes and came up with new ideas.  The reader is encouraged 
to aspire to this illustrious list.

Special emergency notice:  Because of the large administrative workload,
e-mail sent to the FAQ-keeper will not be answered unless it is encrypted
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