<The Last Doomer> Fuck Quake. Once client/server ZDoom comes out you'll come crawling back.
<Flynn> ROFL!!! Not... Doom used to be great, but it's
past it's time for me. I don't think I'll ever
go back. All my clan buds won't be playing
Doom, just a bunch of freaking lamers. Why
would I want to play Doom??? =]
<The Last Doomer> Because Doom ownz you.
<Flynn> Um.. No it doesn't. Doom doesn't own anything.
It's... boring. So is Quake, but I can hang
with the homies on Quake =]
<The Last Doomer> You don't mean that.
<Flynn> About Quake and Doom both sucking?... No
actually. They are both pretty crappy games.
<The Last Doomer> I hope you choke. =)
<The Last Doomer> You're just high on Quake right now....you'll
<Flynn> High on Quake?... Heh, never. High on Doom?
Even less likely than the previous. High on
Anime? But of course!
<The Last Doomer> Smelly cat....smelly cat....What are they
<Flynn> Uh... Heh. A Canadian diet of protein and beer
nuts. Sorry about this Doom stuff... do you
still like Doom?
<Flynn> I mean.. after all the $hit that's happened to
Doom... you can't possibly like it?
<The Last Doomer> I love Doom...but yes, because of the idiots
that hold in their hands the same 'love' as me
Doom is slowly dying. Because so many of the
same idiots only care about themselves and
their 'butt buddies' nothing ever gets done
except stupid little .wads.
<Flynn> So.. you're saying you like it cuz of all the
idiots who play it?
<The Last Doomer> Did I say that? NO! *smack* ;D
<Flynn> Wh00ps... don't know what you said then =]
I really enjoyed Doom. But everythings
been done. Doom is over... nothing new is
<The Last Doomer> Why do you base you 'relationship' with Doom on
the so called 'community?'
<Flynn> Hrm... Cuz I don't like playing Doom alone.
It's no fun. I like chatting with people
rather just sitting idle and killing. When the
people who play the game act like assholes,
there is no point in me even trying.
<The Last Doomer> Uh...hrm...so you're 'lonely?'
<Flynn> lonley? Heck no... not with Quake =]
With Doom, yeah.... It's impossible to talk to
any of those brats.
<The Last Doomer> That's not true.
<Flynn> Becuz they've been playing Doom so long, it's
impossible to mention anything without getting
some faggot superior attitude it seems.
<The Last Doomer> Hehehehe....how true that is.
<Flynn> .. Uh. What are you waiting for to come out
<The Last Doomer> Ok... Um...
<The Last Doomer> Client/Server support.
<Flynn> Um.. THAT'S IT?
<The Last Doomer> Yes, do you know what kind of life something
like that would breath into Doom?
<Flynn> Really... Netplay like Quake is gonna take a
while to come out. And I dont think it will
bring back Doom. Some people will try it out,
say "This sucks", and then go back to playing
games like Q3 Arena, Half Life, SiN, etc. Doom
is just too outdated.
<Flynn> Really, the point of a game is to be the best.
There aren't that many people who play Doom to
actually have some competition. There's no
point in playing.
<The Last Doomer> You play Doom because it's fun to play. And if
you don't find it fun to play....well then...
<Flynn> If I found it fun to play, I wouldn't be here
typing this msg to you. I'd be out trying to
find someone to have a good ZDoom match with.
<The Last Doomer> Ok then.
<Flynn> But that's another problem. There is no
support for the keyboard like there is in
Quake. Why would I want to play when it takes
around 3 seconds for my character to turn the
<The Last Doomer> I forget the name of the source port mod....but
you CAN change that.
<Flynn> uh... kay. Does it support multiplayer? Kinda
useless having it in single player.
<The Last Doomer> Yes...and what do you mean by 'keyboard
<Flynn> Changing turn speed / look up-down speed. Like
in Quake, you can change that so you're not an
easy picking for an experienced mouser.
<The Last Doomer> Almost any source port you can change that
<Flynn> Uh... Kay... Are you sure? You playing with
<The Last Doomer> Why the heck don't you use the mouse?
<Flynn> Cuz I don't know how. I tried playing with it
once... couldn't adjust to it. I playing with
the keyboard... and I 0wn j00 ;)
<The Last Doomer> Pfffft, in Quake maybe....nothing else. ;)
<Flynn> Yeah.. cuz nothing else can customize my
settings. If you played doom and put down your
mouse to your LOWEST possible sensitivity,
you'd know how I feel playing that crap game.
<The Last Doomer> I mean....you play the same damn thing...day
after day after day.
<Flynn> and j00 play Doom... day after day after day
after day after day after day after day after
<The Last Doomer> I do not.....you assume that.
<Flynn> Sorry... you just talk about Doom day after
day after day after day after day after day
after day after day...
<The Last Doomer> hehehehehe
<Flynn> That's not funny. It's like playing in sludge.
TURN DAMMIT... HE'S BEHIND ME... TURN!!!
<The Last Doomer> I know what you mean....we set up a Doom DM
game on macs at school last year and had no
<Flynn> I can't play like that. I need to be able to
turn fast or I am gonna lose. Quite a few
people still play with keyboard, but mod
authors haven't implemented anything to help
people like me =~(
<The Last Doomer> That's because the mod authors are 'normal
people' that make their mods for 'normal
people' that play with the 'mouse.'
<Flynn> Heh.. and I guess they don't want other people
playing Doom then. They can go fuck
themselves.. it doesn't hurt me not playing a 5
year old dinosaur.
<The Last Doomer> Yeah, well see when Quake turns 5 if you're
still around playing that on your lil' 166....
<Flynn> Hehehe. I wouldn't doubt it. But that okay
with me. Because I'll still have my clan pals
to hang around with. What will Doom have? :)
<The Last Doomer> And what happens when you clan pals move on to
a better game with their faster 'puters?
<Flynn> They already have P450s. We've been playing
together for over a year, they'll always come
back, maybe not to play Quake, but to chat.
<The Last Doomer> Hehe, and chat is cheap.
<Flynn> Egg-zactly!!! But I am sure my friends will
still be playing Quake, and some people will
still be playing Doom. Classic games will
never die... they just lose a lot of support.
<The Last Doomer> Quake will die.
<Flynn> ... That's not a nice thing to say.
Although it may be true. No one is making a
mod for Quake anymore, and multiplayer mods
aren't being made either. A lot of people
still play it tho? Just like Doom.
<The Last Doomer> But MP is the only thing keeping quake
alive...when was the last time a single player
map for Quake was released?
<Flynn> Quake has single player?
<The Last Doomer> now add MP to Doom....it will totally boost it
<The Last Doomer> ;)
<The Last Doomer> The only reason most people don't play Doom
today is because it has no netplay support.
<Flynn> Heh. The only thing that kept Doom alive was
the amount of people with 386 and 486s. And
the source release brought some people back.
And netplay will be good for people already
playing Doom at the moment, but people ARENT
going to come back. There is so much more to
play. Most people don't even have Doom
installed or own the game anymore.
<The Last Doomer> Why won't the come back?
<Flynn> Um.... Heh. The physics engine in Doom sucks
for one. The players move and jump really
stupidly. Then it depends on how good the
multiplayer support is. Who is gonna come back
to Doom when it's laggy as he11 like it is with
ZDoom? There are many reason.
<The Last Doomer> Hrm....
<The Last Doomer> quake is only 2 years old...and look how fast
it's slowly dying off.
<Flynn> There is no reason for people to play Doom
anymore. Everything about the game has been
upgraded. Q2 took the Doom weapons and made
them better. Better levels (room over room
technology) has outdated those horrid Doom
maps. The powerups are outdated about boring
<The Last Doomer> =(
<Flynn> =~( is damn right. I don't like seeing my
favorite game die off... it's just something
<The Last Doomer> It's very easy to just say that doom is
outdated and old.
<Flynn> Yeah... it is actually. Can you say something good about Doom that will
bring other people back to play it?
<The Last Doomer> 8 player DM w/ client/server support to come
and leave as you like.
<Flynn> Um... which currently isnt available. And what
makes it so much better than Q/Q2/HL/SiN ???
It's got bad graphics, physics, and levels.
There isn't anything attractive there.
<The Last Doomer> the gameplay is top notch.
<Flynn> Hrm... kay. Maybe for long time players. For
those who have been playing other games for so
long would find it frustrating to play Doom.
The rockets are so dang big... you can RJ or
all that fancy stuff like in Quakers!
<The Last Doomer> Why did people start playing doom in the first
<Flynn> Cuz it was kewl. Why did people begin playing
Quake? Cuz it looked better than Doom. When
Q2 came out, it was far superior to Doom and
<The Last Doomer> Bah...people started playing Quake because they
wanted MP....that's it...there's nothing
'wonderful' about Quake the really makes you
want to play it over another game on the
net...if you could play other new games I doubt
you'd play quake like you do now.
<Flynn> yeah... too bad I cant run any new games ;)
I really dont like arguing about this... When
Doom server/client support is released who
knows what will happen. I could be wrong, or
you could be wrong.
<The Last Doomer> For never playing Q2 you know a lot about it.
<Flynn> Heh. From what I hear... it is good.
<The Last Doomer> I'm always right....so that's cleared up
already. heheheheheheh ;) j/k
<The Last Doomer> It's not like gonna 'bring people back.'
People are not gonna go HEY! Look, you can
play Doom on the net like 'normal' lets play
that instead. I'm just saying that Doom
players you never knew existed will show up.
<Flynn> WTF? Christ... I've been wasting my time
talking to you for the past half hour! BS!
<The Last Doomer> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Remind me to never get deep into a conversation
with you again. Dammit. That sucked.
Sure, some llamas will 'magically' appear.
Maybe 5 or 6 people.... check out the DN
forums. There's lots of people who haven't
figured out it is okay for an idiot to make a
webpage to insult ppl.
<The Last Doomer> hahaha.