Miguel Serrano served as Chilean Ambassador to India, where he studied
and practised the teachings of the Tantras of Saivism (followers of Shiva).
Describing himself as an "Esoteric Hitlerist", he knew such personalities
as Carl Jung, Ezra Pound and the Dalai Lama. The following interview was
extracted from a bi-lingual English/Greek magazine courtesy of Brother
John (Australia). The pictorials are extracted from Serrano's books Adolf
Hitler: el Ultimo Avatara and Manu.
Mr. Serrano, could you tell us how you characterise the modern liberal societies and in what extend do these offer solutions to the higher spiritual searches of man?
There are differences between the modern liberal societies and the old liberal ones, being both - as marxist communism creations and a tools of the Jewery. It is absolutely impossible that these systems offer "solutions to the higher spiritual searches of man". On the contrary, these systems were created by the Jews in order to destroy the non Jewish societies and the souls of the goym.
We know that your integrated personality brought you very close to great figures of literature and science, could you describe to us - even if very briefly - some of them you knew?
The most remarkable to me was Ezra Pound. I knew him at the end of his
life. Me was living in Venice after 13 years in a psychiatric sanitary
in U.S.A. There he was confined for his support of Germany and Italy during
the Second World War. Until the end of his life he kept his ideas and he
said: "Be attached to your old dreams in order that our world does not
I also met the Dalai Lama at the moment he escape from Thibet during the Communist Chinese invasion. He was very young, 25 years oil. I went to meet him at the Himalayas. he never forgets that. and when we met again during the funeral of Indira Gandhi in Delhi. he invited me to go to Dharmasala. where he lives now. We had a very interesting talk. It is good to know that before Budism was introduced in Thibet. Thibetans were a warrior' s race and their religion. the Bo, used also the same swastika of Hitlerism. Until today Intelligence Services of England and United States have been unable to discover the real mysterious links that existed between Thibet and Hitlerist Germany. Very little after the fall of the Third Reich came also the end of Thibet.
I Knew other interesting people: Jawardal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, in the political world; and Hermann Hesse, C. G. Jung in the literary and scientific world. The first two were the most outstanding that I could know as politicians. About the other two my opinion has been given in my book "Hermann Hesse and Carl Gustav Jung" published under the name "Mnemes" in Athens, in 1989.
What represents for you concerning the fact you are one at (he leading representatives of the philosophical thought of today National Socialism, as a political and spiritual movement?
MIGUEL SERRANO: This question I could link with the first question you
made me. National Socialism - as created and introduced by Adolf Hitler
- is considered by me the only system in all the history of the world that
came to give to the non Jewish people the solutions against the Jewish
systems of economic libreralism and marxism.
Adolf Hitler changed everything. Me put an end to the interest of money and finished with the gold - system. replacing it by a system where most important was just the work and the workers. The most genial idea was the destruction of the interest of money, because it is that interest which allows the Jews to live without working, remaining between the producer and the consumer. So terrible was that for the liberal Jewish system and Jewish marxism if that was necessary for a World War to destroy Hitler. The interest of the capital is sacred for these two systems.
Centring the social system in other aspects than the economical one and with the abolition of interest of money all life changed automatically. Then life is able to be spiritualised and the economy is put in a second place. During the short period of the Third Reich we could see the most fantastic explosion in all the spiritual spheres: architecture, arts, philosophy and science.
Mr. Serrano, which is the present situation in Chile concerning the National Socialist movement?
The National Socialist movement in Chile is following very carefully the events. even though nothing better to the Pinochet regime can follow. The international conspiracy has as own archetypes and will apply in South America the scheme elaborated by the World Sinarchy and transnationals. The international Monetarial Fund andthe World Bank will follow to impose the plan for the Third World on us. Pinochet was a representative of these international powers and the actual democratic regime will carry on the same policy until the end. We will fight with all means at our disposal.
What do you have to say about those people who call themselves "National - Socialists" and they just stay alone in a room with photographs of the past without lacing the problems of today... and without doing anything in order to change the present situation for the future?
I think that our opinion has been given above. We the Esoteric Hitlerists have for rule the law of synchronicity that means to work in two worlds, here and there. In the philosophical world and in the world of action. Cannot De a healthy thought without been able to materialise in action. As Nietzsche said: "For a tree to reach Heaven with its branches first if must touch Hell with its roots".
What is your opinion about the philosophical work of Savitri Devi?
Savitri Devi is the greatest fighter after Adolf Hitler, Rudolf Hess and Joseph Goebbels. Moreover she was the first to discover the secret and spiritual power behind Hitlerism. She thought on a new religion and inaugurated in India a sanctuary for Hitler. She was as myself an anti-Christian, telling very clearly that it is impossible to be a true National Socialist and at the same time a Christian. Se initiated. completely alone, all which I have developed until now. It is not a mere coincidence that the Spanish Catholics published an attack against Savitri Devi, Otto Rahn and me. Curiously enough we were at the same time in India without knowing to each other. It was very late when we started to write each other. For a week we missed in Europe. I arrived few days atter her death. I think that Savitri Devi will be the major sister of the all priests of Esoteric Hitlerism. The priestess of Odin.
Adolf Hitler was just a prominent political personality or something more...?
A sentence of Hitler replied by Joseph Goebbels said: "Those who consider National Socialism only as a political movement do not know anything about it..." C. G. Jung compared Adolf Hitler with Mohammed in an interview given before the war. Can we consider Mohammed as a politician? He was a prophet with enormous political repercussion in the world. I consider Adolf Hitler as the greatest personality in the world, and the repercussion of his visions, thoughts and action would be impossible to calculate today. If we were to think in Indian fashion. as Savitri Devi did, we must see in Hitler an incarnation of the divinity, an Avatara. The title of my last book is "Adolf Hitler, the last Avatara".
Albert Kami has said, "the 21st century will be the century of faith or it will not exist". At the end the 21st century will be a century of faith or we will be leaded to the precipice that World levelling Capitalism has being pushing us a long lime?
To be honest I am not very sure about nothing concerning the 21st century. We are in Kali - Yuga, the darkest age. or the Iron Era of the Greeks, and in an accelerated involution. If we believe in this, it will be very difficultto think about a possibility of a new faith, politically there is not a solution unless an intervention by the Hitlerists who survived the catastrophe of Second World War, and who disposed of a new science and technique. We. the Esoteric Hitlerists, believe in that. It will be the magical operation. we hope and wail for, but that does non mean that we do not continue to fight until the end for our ideals even if we are very realistic to see the darkness of the future.
As we know you have devoted your lite to ESOTERIC HITLERISM. Could you tell us synoptically - for our readers that "listen" for their first time to the term of ESOTERIC HITLERISM - what exactly is it?
"Esoteric" is a Greek word referring to God. Esoteric Hitlerism is that which transcend political field and in one or another way touches the religious feelings and symbols. We believe that it the world doesn't go quickly to an end will be only because the Hitlerism transformed itself into a new religious faith, able to change the materialistic man of today in a new idealistic hero where the "beyond life" is as important as life itself. That was the attitude of the heroes of the Thermopiles which were fighting for honour and duty, for Dharma, as Indians would say. Only if was possible to develop in different places of the world an heroic attitude and a sort of 0rder of Warriors - Priests of the new religion of Hitlerism, the world could be saved and materialism destroyed. The Esoteric Hitlerism is a total new vision of the world (Weltanschauung), a Cosmogonia. The SS tried to transmute man to superman, in Sonnenmensch, or Sun Man. A man who will be again a God. This in an old Aryan conception which is not far of the Greek traditional thoughts. and of the initiation of the Mysteries of Apollo and Dyonisos. The Dorian Greeks had a nostalgy of Hyperbores, and so do the Hitlerists.
Is the ESOTERIC HITLERISM the coming new religion? It yes, then will it come probably within a new epoch? What do you have to say about it?
I think that this question has been answered. Of course if there is a possibility of a new religion, it will be Hitlerism. All the elements are there: the incarnation of Archetype. And when the Archetype is working the human being cannot do nothing but only work for its success, even our enemies cannot do nothing but only work for its success, even our enemies are working for that. Nothing can stop the Archetype. Without knowing, we will triumph at the end. But I want to tell you that I consider that Hitlerism is much more than a religion: it is a way to transmute a hero into God.
Would you like to give us an example of how our enemies can work - cause of the acting Archetype - in favour of us. against their own will?
Yes, I want to give an example of how the Archetype can work even against the will of his enemies. The reunification the consuming society and, at the same time, to control the Eastern market and all the socialist countries of the East - Russia as well - by credit cards and by the electronic transference of money, etc. In this context the marxist communism system was obsolete and primitive. Then in a question of weeks communism was finished and the Berlin Wall collapsed. However the Archetype will turn against them. As a matter of fact Hitlerism is racing in Russia and Eastern countries of Europe and will be strong in a unified Germany, when capitalism and materialism will be collapsed. International marxism is collapsing now, international capitalism will follow. National Socialism, a non Jewish socialism. will be the solution. But now will De something much more than a political system.
Mr. Serrano, what is your message to the readers of ANTIDOTO and
your friends in Hellas?
My message will be, to fight in the golden Greek tradition of the heroes of Sparta, for duty, for honour and for the ideals beyond materialism.
(from The Flaming Sword No. 3, August 1994)
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