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Last Updated:  09/11/99 05:29 PM

 

Table of Contents

  1. Who are you?
  2. Why did you do this?
  3. How fast does your Celeron 333 MHz overclock?
  4. How fast is your Voodoo 3 3000 overclock?
  5. What is your system comprised of?
  6. Why doesn't your system short out?
  7. How much did this cost?
  8. Why don't you just buy a better CPU?
  9. Can I do this?
  10. What do I do if my question is not listed here?

 

 

Who are you?

     My name is Dr. Ffreeze (if you want to know my real name you must look at my old site)  I am an average Joe that is a bit extreme about his passions (many).  I am a 27 year old male living in Indianapolis, IN USA.  I am currently working for a large (225,000 sq. ft.) 24 hour super store named Meijer.  (super stores sell both groceries and general merchandise).  I am a Night Store Team Leader (I am one of two that run the store at night).  I have been with the company for a little over for years.  I am trying to get back on days so that I can go back to school for Computer Science and follow my passion.
     I have been into computers for many years.  I wrote a game in high school for the Apple IIe in BASIC but it ran out of memory.  :)  I really enjoy maximizing.  What do I mean by that?  I like to build the best computer for the task for the least amount of money.  I like to build the most economical subwoofer that has the best sound.  I like to build the most extreme cooling system that I can fathom and afford (you probably guessed that already)  :).  I love to dream.  I love to think.  I love to design.  I love to ask why.  I love to create.  I love to teach.  I love to learn.  I love to live life with passion.
     I am a very energetic person!  (can you tell by all of the CAPS, smilies, and exclamation points?)  I am a very happy person.  I don't take credit for the happiness, as I think that it is more than likely because I have sooo much energy.  Have you every tried to frown while you were feeling alive and energetic?   It's kinda' hard to do.  =)

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Why did you do this?

     I did this because I like to design and push the envelope.   If CMOS chips can run faster the colder they go, then I shall cool the chips as cold as I can.  I, much like everyone else on this planet, can do anything that they want IF they put there mind to it.  I did.  I did this to learn.  I did not do this to save money (hardly).  I did not do this to run any particular application faster (although I do enjoy a good 3D game now and again).  I did not do this to make money (but if you insist!).  :)  I enjoy tinkering and testing. 

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How fast does your Celeron 333 MHz overclock to?

     I am sorry to say not any faster than when I had a fan / heatsink combo (416 MHz).  WHAT!!??!!  Yes, you heard right, but let me explain (long story).
     I first did Test 1 with Test Box 1 and my ASUS T2P4 that was powered by my AMD K6-2 300 MHz.  I did NOT use mineral oil as this was my first test.   I was using Damp Rid (a substance that absorbs water from the air) in Test Box 1 with a poorly designed lid.  This setup got down to -38.5 C.  There was still much frost / water on the coils so I stopped testing soon after I started.  :(   I did not want to ruin my only 'puter.  I did try to overclock the chip though to no avail.  The air was -38.5 C but I bet the mainboard was not (remember the ASUS T2P4 had no temperature monitor) that cold.  As a result (I feel anyway) of the poor heat transfer of air (very little circulation if I remember correctly) the setup did not achieve any real gains (other than to continue to educate me).
     Enter Mineral Oil.  I had found a great liquid quite a while ago.  It is 3M™ Fluorinert.  It just so happens that Cray Super Computers (one word or two?) use this liquid.  The story goes that it was developed for the medical field but was found to be a GREAT liquid coolant that froze at -50 C (or there abouts).  I found a reseller and it was only $100 / gal!  :(  What to do?  I thought of a vegetable oil but I was not willing to risk finding out that it was corrosive to my motherboard.  I searched on and off for a suitable liquid.  I stumbled in a home page of a hobbyist that built Telsa Coils.  On his site (I lost it as I have reformatted my HD since then) he stated that Mineral Oil can be used to help cool the transformer used to help create the high voltages needed for the Telsa Coil.  He also stated that the oil in large transformers found on telephone poles throughout the USA was Mineral Oil (it wasn't quite like that but you get the point).  Transformer Oil = Mineral Oil  (this is actually slightly incorrect but I am still researching the difference, if you know shoot me an email).
     Woohoo!  I found my oil!  This will transfer heat MUCH better than air AND coat the 'puter to protect it from condensation!  (I'm going to take over the WORLD....opps, still working on that)  :)  Test Box 1 did not have a good lid so Test 2 still had some problems with condensation / frost / ice.  I needed another box... 
     I thought that I might have something to post to my new web site.   I had used FrontPage98 before but was unable to use FrontPage Extensions on my personal web site.  I found www.accsdata.com that would let me tinker with a new web site that used FrontPage98 server extension for only $5 per month!  Oh, lets just through something together.  Nothing really happened as far as exposure.  I need to reformat my HD because I did something to kill EverQuest (GREAT game!   Would be honored to play with anyone noble, when I have time again).  In the process I lost many things on my HD (duh, but I used to have a "spare" HD that was now in my girlfriend's 'puter).  This was not a problem (I thought).  I came home from work and saw that I had 4,600 hits in only 24 hrs!!!!!  Wow, my personal site had only 2,000 hits in two years.  It was even my start page so every day or so I was increasing my hits by 4 or 5.  This interest in my new site was AMAZING!  =)   (THANK YOU ALL.  This has been the most exciting time in my life!) ((Sorry, I normally hate blink but I wanted you to all see that.))   I started to get hit with tons of email and loved it.  ICQ was going berserk.  I was getting asked many of the same questions.  I know that my site did not give any real hard numbers, so I tried to update my site.  I connected to accsdata from FrontPage98 and updated my site, but when I tried to save it said something like, "Unable to save as Dr Ffreeze.htm is an exe".  Aghhhh....  I decide before I would take the time to figure things out I would make Test Box 2 and shoot for some hard numbers with a new lidded box.   (any FrontPage98 gurus out there?  what did I do wrong and how can I fix it?)
     Enter Test Box 2!  It went together quite easily.  I needed to either submerse the power supply or get some extenders.  Because of time, I just submersed it (opps, wrong answer).  This caused problems as I was having voltage swings.  The system was NOT stable.  I removed the power supply and removed the cover on it.  I put the power supply back into the Mineral Oil.  This helped greatly but it still did not resolve all of the issues.  The system was still not quite stable.  It was just "mostly" stable.  ("No, he is just mostly dead" = what move? email me).  I decided to update my site rather than keep you all in the dark.  This does mean that I have spent time away from my testing, but I think that most of you will appreciate the info.
     I will still be working on my system.  Look at News for further info.  :) 

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How fast is your Voodoo 3 3000 overclocked?

     I have not got many questions on this, but it is one that I am most interested in.  I am very interested in 1600 x 1200 as it is fill rate bound.   The extremely high MHz should help out greatly.  It's kinda' neat thinking that I might have a faster Voodoo 3 than even 3DFx has ever tested in there R&D lab!  =)   What could the Voodoo 3 3000 do if it were clocked to *** MHz?  I don't know, but intend to find out.  After the CPU is taken care of, this will be my next goal.

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What is your system comprised of?

CPU Celeron 333 MHz oc 416 MHz
RAM 128 MB SDRAM
Video Voodoo 3 3000 166 MHz oc 183 MHz
HD Maxtor 10 GB
Sound Diamond MX300
CD-ROM AOpen 36X
Modem Generic 56k PCI
Network DLink 100 Mbit PCI
Monitor KDS 19"
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Why doesn't your system short out?

     Mineral Oil does not conduct electricity.  It is used to cool large transformers that can be found on telephone poles.  It is used to cool transformers for Telsa coils.  Although it seems strange, you can just dip everything right in the vat of oil.

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How much did this cost?

     Get back to me.  I am not for sure just yet.  (it's probably better that way or I might have a heart attack)

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Why don't you just buy a better CPU?

     Well, I could have done this with all of the money I spent but what fun is that?  Would you all have come to my site to see my new PIII 500 MHz?   I think not.  How about I get the kinks worked out of this and THEN buy a .18 micron K7 or .18 micron Coppermine!!!  I would like to achieve a GREATER than 1 GHz BEFORE a press release is issued by Intel, AMD, or Kryotech!  (notice I said press release as I am sure that I am not the ONLY cooling nut on the planet)  (just a thought, any of you need some help in you R&D labs?)   =)

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Can I do this?

    First read this disclaimer = Overclocking may damage you computer or possibly cause a fire which could result in loss of life and limb.   Proceed at your own risk!  I am NOT responsible for any damage, injury, or otherwise "bad things" that happens as a result of information that is on this website.
     If you are a hobbyist, go for it!  K.I.P.  =   Knowledge Is Power.  If you want to do this commercially, please don't without first contacting me.

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What do I do if my question is not listed here?

     Email me and / or look around!  I welcome ANY and ALL feedback!  It's what keeps me going.  I was actually putting this project on a back burned (I was working on some concrete lined subwoofers for my 'puter) until my site got "noticed".  =)

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