The Old Stuff Chronicles - Matt Dixon - Saturday Mar 31 16:05:10 2001

Legion Down Under is a level likely unknown to the vast majority of you, for two reasons. First and foremost, Legion dates back to June of 1994 -- a time when many people were still unfamiliar with the concept of levels beyond id's original twenty-seven. Second, much to my surprise and perhaps most importantly, Legion cannot be found on either ftp.cdrom.com or its many mirrors -- making it something of a lost classic. Authored by Jim McColm, Legion Down Under draws inspiration from id's original three episodes and meshes the motifs of the three together in, considering the date released, a fresh display of textual creativity. While not especially difficult, Legion will lure players back for a repeat performance because of the non-linearity present. Enjoy! (Replaces E2M1 of Doom 1.)

Next week, look forward to Doomworld hosting another lost classic from Jim McColm via The Old Stuff Chronicles...a level that is, again, foreign to ftp.cdrom.com and its mirrors -- and superior in every way to the wonderful Legion Down Under.

Afterglow

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"Nick:" posted Monday Apr 02 14:27:19 2001


Uh neither of the brothers are at those companies... you may be thinking of Mattias Worch that worked on MM1/2 & Requiem and he's at Legend... I'm pretty sure he's the lead level designer for Unreal2. (I think CliffB is the lead designer itself)

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"rethcir" posted Monday Apr 02 13:36:57 2001


At least one of them's now working for a games company, either Ritual or Rogue I think.

 

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"" posted Sunday Apr 01 20:40:00 2001


Whatever happened to the innocent crew? They not only came up with this particular opus of doom moding, but also made NWT if i remember correctly. Well, I don't wanna let off too much about this stuff, so Ling et. al. have something to say about Obit when they make a mention of it here.

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"Obituary" posted Sunday Apr 01 07:14:20 2001


Hey, I remember that, it was awesome. Thanks for the link, as I had completely forgotten Obituary even existed. I'm downloading it right now, so that I can go kill me some of those rocket launcher zombies myself.

First post. 

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"Obtic11" posted Saturday Mar 31 23:24:03 2001


That shoulder-mounted rl zombieman is the coolest add-on monster ever to Doom.
I completely agree -- great levelset too.

FPS Demofreak 

Mattrim.

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"Re: Rethcir" posted Saturday Mar 31 22:28:14 2001


TNT? Obituary? Get ye from my sight, thou quailing swag-bellied canker-blossom. The brilliance of Obituary cannot be attributed to TNT, but rather...TiC.

All kidding aside, Obituary is certainly a fantastic little set (of seventeen levels). For the curious onlooker who has no idea what Rethcir and I are discussing, I encourage you to follow this link for a download, ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/levels/doom2/m-o/obtic11.zip or turn to http://www.tic.de/doom/doom.html for more information.

As for the chronological chronicling of Old Stuff...that has not been the plan, though something akin to that may develop in the coming weeks.

 

rethcir

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"Oldstuff" posted Saturday Mar 31 22:13:27 2001


Are you guys going to try to do your oldstuffs in more or less chronological order of release? IE are you going to do the very early stuff before stuff that's 2-3 years old? Cuz I think my main suggestion for an Oldstuff entry would be TNT's Obituary PC, which is somewhat underrated yet very, very l33t imho.

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Ebola

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"" posted Saturday Mar 31 20:26:05 2001


/me's first 3:rd part wad was ATC... I think.

Ni'mRoD - Ixnay on the Hombre 

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"" posted Saturday Mar 31 18:48:57 2001


That map was pretty painfull. Me dislikes.

bloody hell teddy! 

Fyrestorm

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"" posted Saturday Mar 31 18:32:21 2001


moo?

Moo. 

Afterglow

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"" posted Saturday Mar 31 18:30:54 2001


* Afterglow ph33rs Mattrim's access to Doomworld

BTW Ling, why isn't Gothic99 in the hosted sites sidebar?

TEXTURES! 

Striker

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"hehe" posted Saturday Mar 31 16:48:04 2001


now that map was a ride ya know thinkin' about oldstuff i remember the first 3rd party wad i had http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/games/PC/idgames/levels/doom/g-i/invade1.zip (cdrom.com mirror btw) then i found out about cdrom.com and got invade2 and saw the movies that were uploaded into that director for the thing. I still like those wads ('94), anyone else play them?

BTW on that legion wad where is taht music from i remember it but cannot well finger it.

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