Pharrell: What else you want to talk about? Lets change the world yo. Lets change the world. Lets spread love. Lets not be ….
Mike D: How is that gonna happen? How can we all collectively…?
Pharrell: I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
Mike D: See that's my thing. To me, everyone has different views on it. Some people are like, 'I'm gonna do my pure thing and I don't care if it reaches people.' I feel like I want to try and do something positive it may as well reach a lot of people because how are we going to change shit? It's going to be a lot harder if we're reaching small amounts.
Pharrell: Well you gotta do it in music. I'm telling you right now, music speaks to people, number one, no matter what language they speak. And number two music, subliminally and subconsciously touches people in ways that they don't even fucking know. It opens your mind. Now if you ever listen to anything Timothy Leary says about how LSD opens your mind. I think music is a natural hallucinogen, if you allow yourself to be taken away by music. It will open your mind, it will change your perspectives.
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Mike D: But anyway back to changing what's fucked up or taking action, in the '70s you had Marvin Gaye making records speaking on things. You could listen to "What's Going On?" and just cry because what he's sayin is so true, but partly because how he's saying it and how he's singing it. Do we have that now? I hate to say that, because I always hate on people who are like, 'music today isn't as good as it was then.' You know cause there's shit on the radio that I love now.
Pharrell: But people don't key in on things like that. Like I was sayin I was raised on Donny and Marvin and Michael and Stevie and you're absolutely right. It's not only the sounds and the melodies and the words, it's also the meaning. That's how we try to make music, it's always laced in every way. Every feeling, every aspect, every sense of it feels good. That's how you know you're going to move a person. But be on the lookout for this B-side that we got going out in Europe and its called "Save the Babies" and its gonna be featuring this girl who's like a big fucking pop star, she's a black urban pop star. The hook is "save the world / save the babies / drop the debt / how hard is that?" It's gonna be crazy.
That is honestly all I wanna do. I have songs on the charts, I'm so thankful, so appreciative, and I'm content but I'm not happy. Because at the end of the day, knowing that you can stand on a block, be at a stoplight and see a bum leaning his head against the side of the stoplight and see a Bentley waiting for the stop light, there's something completely wrong with that picture. You've got politicians who act like they're fighting for this and they're fighting for that, but I bet you that politician won't go on that block where bums frequent. You know why? Because he'll have to do something about it. He knows that reporters will fuckin follow up on it and show you his flaws. It's all a fucking game -- even though I do like Clinton. I don't give a fuck about what nobody say about him. He's a human. He got head but he's a human.
Mike D: No but those flaws are an essential part of how we're all playing a role essentially. The problem is we get caught up in the illusion that we're controlling that role. We need to be controlling our actions because we need to purify and try to make those actions as positive as we can. We get caught up in thinking we control that, instead of just like trying to offer up all those intentions and fixing those things. Then we become all judgmental towards everybody else. I do it too. I get caught up in judging oh this persons wack, this persons doing bullshit or whatever. But whatever, we'll make a record, we'll change the world.
Pharrell: No we are. We've got a B-side called "Save the Babies."