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Walker, Scott shut down Bomber around 6

Bombshelter staff Bud Walker shut the Bombshelter down around six o'clock.

As the license holder Walker is responsible for the Feds bars. "It was a safety concern," he said.

"Catharine [Scott] and I made the decision about an hour ago," he indicated that the decision was made roughly around 5:00.

"I'm fucking sick of these people attacking our autonomy," said Feds VP Ed Ryan O'Connor to students outside the closed Bomber doors.

Feds VPI Mike Kerrigan said, "We sent a letter from out lawyer saying we want you out of our bars and they do this."

Di lullo said that he "A reporter from the record told me ' I hear they're shutting you down at six..'"

At the time Di Lullo saays he estimated about 75 people in the bar. "People said they were going to show up at 7:30 so I guess they don't want that to happen."

Bombshelter Manager Marc Thususka said he found out about the midnight shutdown at noon today. "At about 5:45 they advised me it would be unsafe to reamin open. As the licence holder he [Walker] can shut us down at any time. Apparently Waterloo Regional Police advised UW Police to shut us down."

"Students are just learning about it. My staff are just learning about it. I'm concerned about my staff because they need to work to go to school."

When asked if he was prepared for problems tonight he said, "I called all my staff in to go over what was going on. I would get Chris Di Lullo to talk to them and then a majority of them would punch in. We were expecting to be busy like the first Wednesday night of the term.

"This sucks -- it sucks a lot."

Student Manager Darren Maher was disappointed, "I've worked here for four years, what a way to end."

Maher said, "I find it quite unsettling that university politics is masking student need. The Bombshelter is acknowledged by the liquor inspector as one of the safest bars around." He emphasized that students should have a safe bar to frequent.

Student pub agreement (1976)

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Now you've done it, Bud.

I would have accepted this if they'd given any kind of advance notice.

But where they hell do they get off giving 12 hours of notice to the manager, and then moving up the shutdown almost with no notice whatsoever?!

Does the administration honestly think the students won't fight this?

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Usual Suspect?

CATHARINE and Bud made the decision? In my experience, team decisions involving a top-five person don't necessarily infer "team" decisions. ALW made a lot of sense in Imprint last week, and it's coming out even more now to me.

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Usual Suspect?

CATHARINE and Bud made the decision? In my experience, team decisions involving a top-five person don't necessarily infer "team" decisions. ALW made a lot of sense in Imprint last week, and it's coming out even more now to me.

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I Suggest The Students Call For Bud Walker's Resignation

Just because he holds the license, it doesn't give him the moral authority or justification to do what he did. The bars were safe. Especially the Bomber. I bet thousands of people would sign a petition calling for both Bud Walker and Catharine Scott's resignation.

They've neutered our frosh week - they shouldn't be allowed to destroy a big source of revenue for the Feds.

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Professional, Prompt, Service-Oriented

would i use any of these words to describe these activities?

would you?

also for everyone out there, remember that google is forever, and libel laws definitely apply...

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Complain Directly To Administration - Flood THeir Offices With Email, Phone Messages

BUD WALKER
Walker, John D
nickname: Bud
department: Director, Business Operations
email: bwalker@admmail.uwaterloo.ca
phone: +1 519-888-4567 x2287
office: NH 3006G
uwuserid: bwalker

CATHARINE SCOTT
name: Scott, A Catharine
department: Associate Provost, Human Resources & Student Services
email: cscott@admmail.uwaterloo.ca
phone: +1 519-888-4567 x3186
office: NH 3006
uwuserid: cscott

MARTING VAN NIEROP
name: Van Nierop, Martin W
department: Information & Public Affairs
email: vanierop@nh4.adm.uwaterloo.ca
phone: +1 519-888-4881 or x4881
office: NH 3041F
uwuserid: vanierop

AMIT CHAKMA
name: Chakma, Amit
department: Office of VP Acad & Provost
email: provost@admmail.uwaterloo.ca
phone: +1 519-888-4766 or x4766
office: NH 3073F
uwuserid: achakma

DAVID JOHNSTON
name: Johnston, David L.
department: Office of the President
email: president@admmail.uwaterloo.ca
phone: +1 519-888-4400 or x4400
office: NH 3073A
uwuserid: johnston

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FEDS did this!!!

Don't blame the admin for this. I've been saying in posts for other stories the FEDS only have so much power as the admin gives them. I was told I was insane! Who the hell do FEDS think they are, telling the university what to do when they own the liquor license? The feds raised the stakes by bringing in a lawyer and they lost. The FEDS exec not the university are playing politics with people's jobs. The entire FEDS exec should resign IMMEDIATELY!!!! They couldn't accept anyone looking over their shoulder's, grow up and welcome to the real world. They are acting like children saying "It's a free country we can do what we want." There are a lot of things in this world you won't like but sometimes need to accept for the sake of others. Now the employees are without jobs, and students without a place to socialize simply because of the arrogance of a few!!!

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Club Events

What is the status of student run events that were supposed to go on in the Bombshelter? Are we to eat the advertisement cost of these things? What about the verbal agreements made between the manager of the Bomber and the clubs?

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CKCO to go live - rally at 11:00pm

For all those who can make it, CKCO will be going live from the Great Hall during its evening newscast sometime between 11 and 12 tonight. There will be a rally in said hall starting at 11pm. Come out and support your right to an establishment you own, and sign the banner! Be there or be square.

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Quote

Just for clarification, the quote attributed to me in the article was said in the heat of the moment to a group of students wondering what was occurring. This was not an official statement to the media.

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Rally / Press Conference tomorrow @ 3:30

Mark this one down on your calendars as well: Tomorrow (Jan 21) at 3:30pm there will be a rally and press conference in the SLC Great Hall. This is yet another opportunity to let UW administration and the media know how you feel about your businesses being shut down. Whether you support the decision or not, come out and make yourself heard!!!

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Two sides to every story

Everyone is obviously upset about not having Fed Hall and the Bomber, but do you really think the Administration came about this decision lightly? Lets stop and think about this for a second. The administration had to expect a huge uproar from the Federation of Students, the media, and the student body.

The first issue of management. Lets imagine for a minute that as a result of a company you have no control over, your at risk of being sued. Would you not want a say in how that company runs? I would say, yes definately. I understand that the administration let the FEDS keep the bars open this long under the understanding that management would have to eventually shift at least partly to the administration. Not having finalized the agreement, they were supposted to meet. Suddenly FEDS do not want to meet, they do not want to reschedule, they do not want to even discuss the issue. What options does that leave the administration? It seems to me that the FEDS did have notice this might happen, back at the beginning of January before Fed 102 when Brenda and Chris spoke with Catherine and Bud.

The second issue would be closing Bomber early tonight. It has been my experience that large, angry crowds and alcohol do not mix well. Expecting crowds of people like the first Bomber Wednesday of the term, only turning out because their favourite bar is about to be closed seems like a bad situation. With the safety of the students in mind, and the best interest of the Bomber space and the SLC as a whole, it makes sense to close the Bomber tonight. It would only take a few idiots to create a riot on campus destroying the SLC. I think Bud pulled a smooth one taking the fall for the damage that could have been done to the FEDS space, the SLC.

This does not sound like an administration out to screw the students. It sounds like an administration with no other choice, when faced with an uncompromising Federation of Students, or an enormous liability. The only option was to take enormous heat from the student body to make the FEDS understand the importance of the issue.

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The closing may be unsafe for other students...

I don't even go to this school, but I've been to the Bomber a few times, and from my viewpoint it was one of the cleanest, safest bars I have ever been to. Go to some of the bars in the Toronto downtown area, now those are unsafe, unclean bars.

It worries me now that my friends in Waterloo do not have a safe, close bar to go to, and it concerns me even more because now students will have to travel farther to find a new place to drink and hang out. Pushing them farther away from campus means increasing incidents of drunken actions, as well as drinking and driving. We all think that we are smarter than that, but there will always be those "special" people who feel invincible once having consumed a large amount of alcohol.

I hope that this decision will be reconsidered, because the next time I come to Waterloo, I would love to visit the Bomber again.

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bomber agreement online

Ryan Chen-Wing added a link to the agreement between Feds and UW about the Bombshelter Pub only to the body of this story.

Agreement between Feds and UW re: Bombshelter Pub.

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Just my opinion, but I can see it now...

this is just my opinion, but, we should look at this as a positive, as a new advertising strategy by the University...

Looking for a place to blow your money for five years?

Then come to the University of Waterloo!

Cram yourself into one of our oversized classed!

Pay $400+ a semester for co-op so you can find yourself a job mowing your neighbours lawn all summer! (supervising the mowing if you are an engineer)

Let an oppressive governing body slowly destroy your will and any attempts to seek happiness and safety as they try to slowly drain the power from the student government and suck the life-blood out of frosh week! (insert Buffy reference here)

Let our opressive City Council slowly force you to live closer and closer to St.Jacobs due to Zoning ordinances!

University of Waterloo! Now powered by Microsoft! (what else would you expect from souless bastards?)

but then again, this is only my own opinion. In news also related to my own opinion, I should have accepted that offer from U of T...

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Ironies of the Day

Irony #1: It's ironic that the UW admin. chose Martin Luther King Day to take away students rights.

Irony #2: It's ironic that the only time i've ever seen the potential for a riot (even though i dont think there would have been one) was in one of the few buildings that isn't riot proof.

I found it amusing... thought you might too.

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Show that we UW students care...protest at 330

With the bars being shut down at UW, it is understandable that many UW students are dissappointed. However, I feel as though that students here at UW (and students all over Canada) today have lost their sense of duty for standing up to issues which may not guarantee a secure job in the future but deeply affects our daily lives. Yes it isn't the end of the world and yes the bars are not our priorities for attending UW, but they are an important social aspect of our university career. I CHALLENGE ALL UW STUDENTS TO COME OUT TUESDAY JAN. 21st @ 330 pm AT THE SLC TO PROTEST. I am challenging the students because as much as I love my school and my peers, I believe that the school population lacks the ability to stand up and defend for what is right. I believe that studnents at UW are more concerned about finishing their degree to look for ways to make money than to fight for issues that affect them. Sad as it may sound, UW students just don't give a shit anymore. I'd bet that if UW admin decided to increase tuition by 25%, students would rather bite their fingers and swollow their pride than to stand up against it. Prove me wrong. We have approximantly 20,000 studnets at UW, I'd bet that not even more than 200 students will show up! It is sad, and I am ashamed to be attending this kind of school!
I'd also like to ask to the UW administration, what exactly was wrong with the way the Bombshelter Pub was operating. Murdoch concluded that the pub was operating efficiently and safely. If you think that shutting the bars is a remedy for correcting bad publicity, I sure hope you (UW admin) realize that this will and has caused more harm than good. For the school, current students and propective students.

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How do I pay for school

Just a little message to the UWADMIN:

I am an employee at the Bombshelter Pub, I have one question for you. How do you think the workers at both the Bombshelter and Fed hall will be able to pay for school? There are many students that work at the bomber not by choice, but out of necessity. We expect and count on that money for our books, our rent and our tuition.

I was wondering how I will pay for all of this.

I love the bomber and I know everyone else loves coming too, not only does this place pay the bills for me but it gives me great joy to work and see all of the patrons having a wonderful time. See all you guys soon!

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Thank You!!!

I would like to take this time to thank everyone who has been petitioning and standing up for the FEDS. The Bomber and FEDS are greatly appreciative of this. Keep it up. These are your bars!!!


THANKS

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Mathematics

President David Johnston made $239666.72 in 2001.
Over 150 students to lose job...
Maybe if we make mr. Johnston lose his job too, we can distribute the $1,597.78 / year / student as bursaries to help pay for tuition.

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Mathematics

President David Johnston made $239666.72 in 2001.
Over 150 students to lose job...
Maybe if we make mr. Johnston lose his job too, we can distribute the $1,597.78 / year / student as bursaries to help pay for tuition.

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A Concerned Patron and Employee

First, I'd like to thank everyone on behalf of the Fed Hall and Bombshelter Staff that showed up today. It was greatly appreciated by all staff.

Second, I would like to thank the Federation of Students for standing up for us, like few past executives would. The administration, by placing the blame for a fight no one could control, on the heads of minimum wage workers with no insurance or responsibility in the matter, has shown that it does not support its student body.

The University could have easily said that Fed Hall staff did everything in their power to control the incident, which they did. Instead, they hung the student body out to dry by calling Fed management incompetent in national press.

If the university supported its student body, it would support their actions in this matter. After all this, the postive PR the university was looking for will reversed by 18 000 pissed of UW students. Support your Feds exec and support your Feds employees. Make sure the university hears you.

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KW Record

KW Record article

Though I found the Record's article to me more informative than CKCO's coverage, I'm still finding it disheartening that neither media group mentioned Mark Murdoch's report. I think his article is crucial for us to point out as it gives a strong, unfavourable impression towards the admin's position and excuses for their actions yesterday.

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I don't think this puts balls in a vice, but...

Maclean's Magazine
777 Bay Street
Toronto ON M5W 1A7

letters@macleans.ca

Att'n: Ann Dowsett Johnston, Guide to Universities

The flyers started going around yesterday

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Hard to get a flattering comment nowadays

http://www.bulletin.uwaterloo.ca/
Tuesday January 21

At least Redmond mentions the Murdoch report, but ewwwwww.

And I like Sloat's GSA idea - is it possible?

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Ground Zero too?

Hey, maybe they should shut down Ground Zero. Then the $400,000+ saved can be divvied up to the employees that lost their jobs at the three profit centres.

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Must.... resist...

... but I can't!

"I don't want to learn
I just want to get drunk
and major in Business!"

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Both sides screwed up

After thinking about this over night I have come to the realization that both sides screwed up. Admin should have tried a little harder and FEDS have been useless, they are our representitives and don't get to decide which meetings they go to. They were elected by us to NEGOTIATE isses with admin on our behalf. Why could they not accept admin management on the condition that there were to be further discussions in the future on policies and procedures. Do they honestly think that admin doesn't want the bars to open up again? No! Sometimes being a politician involves swallowing your pride for the better good. In this case that means doing what is necessary to preserve the jobs of FED and Bomber employees. If after actually trying to be reasonable FEDS are being bullied by admin then people have a reason to get upset. Going into negotiations when you are the underdog saying this is what we will accept and no less only shows that those people have no business negotiating on our behalf.

People are trying to strong-arm the admin, which you have to know is just not going to work. I'd like to know if any other news outlets the FEDS were trying to contact gave a crap about a university loosing their bars. What is important to us just may not be to others. The university had to be seen to be doing something about what happened. While FED did what they could on New Years, it might not have been enough. That being said, it is obvious that UW police needs more officers on nights such as New Years to be able to handle situations. What dissapoints me the most is that admin has not taken some form of punitive action against the students who's friends beat the crap out of that guy.

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CBC Toronto Article

CBC Toronto Article, fairly limited but some national press.

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On another note

Who cares to set up an informal pool as to when the businesses regain their licenses?

Also, is the Bomber closed today? I don't see why students shouldn't be allowed to enjoy a Bomber Deli sandwich or spicy fries just because there's no liquor. The staffing would have to be accounted for, but I'm sure there's costs being run up whether it's open or not. Why not try to offset that by having students support the bomber through food sales.

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Rally Today

As a Bomber employee I just want to say thanks to everyone for their support. It means a lot to me and to the other staff.

Please come out to the rally today at 3:30 in SLC. Show your support for us, for your establishment and your distain for the way the UW admin. has handled this.

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Rally Today

As a Bomber employee I just want to say thanks to everyone for their support. It means a lot to me and to the other staff.

Please come out to the rally today at 3:30 in SLC. Show your support for us, for your establishment and your distain for the way the UW admin. has handled this.

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Student Life

Can a government institutions hold liquor licenses?
Why do FEDs not have their own license?

How about UW Student Life? UW's not ranked #1 in Macleans for a reason.

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Student Life

Can a government institutions hold liquor licenses?
Why do FEDs not have their own license?

How about UW Student Life? UW's not ranked #1 in Macleans for a reason.

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Thank You

I would just like to take this oppertunity to thank everyone for showing up at the rally today and for the FEDS's wonderful performance during this awful situation.

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CKCO.ca, CBC.ca/toronto running similar post

I hope our executive media spinsters are working on this.

That cbc.ca post mentioned earlier on with the big inaccuracies? Well, CKCO's website is running a highly similar post on their homepage.

Couple that with the "students want booze" clip they ran at 11:30, I'm beginning to detect an image problem with this cause.

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One student for admin

I for one applaud the decision made by UW admin to shut down the Bomber.

Quite frankly, I've always found it ridiculous that a institution that promotes higher education, innovation, training tomorrow's leaders, should encourage an acitivty clearly contrary to those goals (drinking) by allowing businesses with that purpose to function on their very property.

We all came here (presumably) to better our minds, why then do we so passionatley flock to Bomber every Wednesday to incapcitate our minds? Milton, Shakespeare, Thermodynamics, Peace and Conflict studies during the day and wiggling to the 80's stupidest hits and vomiting on each other in the bomber washrooms at night?

What's worse has been the ridiculous reaction to the news. A couple students on this site have deigned to call admin's actions "a violation of our rights." Dude, rights are getting violated left right and center across the globe. Hell, homosexuality is still a crime in Texas, (and Romania.) And each of the "real issues" that organizations like WPIRG (and I'm not a WPIRGer myself, far too conservative) try to bring up, amount to only a whisper, inaudible over the roar of "we want our boozes" chanted by the rest of the student body. That makes me sad :-(

So I counsel all the bomber regulars to pick up a book, take a ballet class, or teach yourself to play banjo this wednesday night. In the interim, I expect that the closing of these pubs will result in a upward spike in class attendance.

(don't take me too seriously ya'll, if it reads to harsh plz chalk it up to understandable bitterness at still beign 2 years too young to drink) :-(


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Lord have mercy

This has got to really put the icing on the cake... let's see:

A fight breaks out at UW, between people who don't even attend the school. This precipitates:

- The administration performing one of their typical 'shit we've got a splinter in our toe, better cut the leg off at the hip' policies.

- Yuppie parents everywhere rejoicing as they have finally found the most boring and safe place for their children to be raised into drones (chicken-shit conformists like your parents - I gotta put a DK lyric in my post as well).

- FedS getting so caught up in their self-absorbed politiking that they manage to bungle the whole situation, and are left with a perfect anti-campus-apathy scenario to try rallying the beer-thirsty AHS and ENG students into student ACTION!

- The uws intelligentsia taking the opportunity to point the finger at anything and anyone, and will no doubt be followed up with at least 4 weeks of action packed Imprints centered on the whole debate.

---

This is such an excruciatingly typical UW situation. It makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time, principally since it is so outrageous and sad. The solution?

1) Disband FedS.

2) Learn how to buy beer from the beer store and have parties at your houses (not like any of you socialize when you go to the bar anyway). Even if there were 150 parties, you could *hire an ex bomber/fed hall staff* to serve you drinks all night - and it would still be cheaper than going to the bar!

3) Don't trust the university to provide you with anything other than a *learning institution*. Move to a city where the social sphere exists of more than just universities and everything that has to do with being a *student*.

Honestly, this whole situation makes students at UW appear to be no better than whiney juvenile shits (like usual), always trying to prove a point and one up the administration. The solution? Don't deal with the university anymore! DIYFS.

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No Bud of mine

I am OUTRAGED! I refuse to call Mr. John D. Walker MY bud. As if my life wasn't good enough. Sitting on the floor during class, not being able to hear a teacher talk due to construction noise, having atleast 1 good venue on the watcard.

Suck it! Hey John D. why don't you take a course and see how great the educational experience is these days. And know you've taken our one santuary. Are you going to let students into the President's Club? Oh this this a tactic to raise bar sales at the President's CLub? Robert D. the province is really corn-holing the university if its sabotaging student bars so it can raise more money for...for what? Nothing is getting better at this university. John don't stop at taking our bar. PLease keep going and take away our dignity.

Peace
The Dude

I don't know about you but I don't think Bob and Doug Mackenzie would take this sitting down. Especially after the university took away there stool. John D. you better tell the Queen of the campus to watch out for mice in her beer. I'll show you a diabolical brewmeister. Hoser.

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Van Nierop and UW admin Full of It

The CKCO coverage tonight was fabulous...but i still must disagree with the lies being spread by the UW administration...the university spokesman Martin Van Nierop claimed that the bars had violated the liquor license on multiple occasions...this is by far a true statement...actually..it couldnt be any further from the truth...as Mark Murdoch (one of their own) has reported the bar staff has maintained a safe environment...at one point on the first thursday night at fed Mark and Bud walker attempted to pursuade our staff to allow patrons into the bar even though we were at capacity...how do you like them apples???

Why are the lies continuing to flow? I hope the feds exec reads this...like i said..i am bar staff...and i can report that we have followed the license fully...the lies from the UW admin must stop now!!!

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So this is it? A scream-fest at 3:30 and solid whining until whenever?

Well, I missed this afternoon's rally (but I heard it at the Elections Committee meeting). Twenty minutes? TWENTY MINUTES??? Please tell me at least one person went out into the cold and made a stink.

I sure hope there is another step in this process being officially planned - I haven't heard back from Exec yet, and I understand it's outside of business hours.

But the more little things that come out, the more ashamed I am of myself for not having done more (I don't know what more could be). Fellas (Mike, Ryan, Chris), people are seriously cheesed right now...capitalize on what little emotion has been stirred up.

And if you can't get a hold of me tomorrow morning, I'll be hovering around Needles Hall at 8:30.

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Globe and Mail

Click here to see the Globe and Mail article that is in today's (Wed) paper

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Campus Day

I had an odd thought about possible actions...why not schedule (very publically) a protest duing the two campus days in March to express the student grievances about the university admin? It's more likely to be noticed by the admin!

One concern would be 'scaring' students away from Waterloo, but then if the issues with the admin (and some other depts) can't be resolved, then I wouldn't really recommend this school anyway.

The second concern is that March is quite a ways off and a resolution might well come before then. That's why I suggest publically planning it now...at least puts some pressure on for a faster solution.

How about it?

Mike Morgan
4B MathBus

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The Nudity of Money

It is very upset to hear that the UW administration shut down the student bar relentlessly, but not such a surprise for me: it is all about some people's thirsts for money and power.

I do not know how much money Bombshelter and Federation Hall have made each year, but, clearly, employing 150 students onsite is not a small number. So how could the director of "business" operations stand by and watch those money flowing into students' pockets without his mouth watering? Business is business.

I still remember the time when the same university people shut down the student apartment in UWPlace (formerly known as Married Student Apartment) and changed it into bachelor rooms, in the name of "unfair distinction between married and unmarried students". A lot of students indeed have been convinced at that time. Let's do a simple math: the current price for a standard two-bed room apartment is about 7,200$/year. After changing it into 3 bachelor rooms (like Wellesley Court) and each person is charged for 350$/month, university can make 12,600$/year from the same area. How much difference before and after the restructure of the building? If assuming there are 50 apartments in Wellesley Court, the university earns ADDITIONAL 50*(12,600$-7,200$)=270,000$ for every year from the same building!!! What a fucking brilliant business plan. No wonder University of Waterloo is such a famous math school.

Unfortunately, I was officially told that after simplely deleting a court for married students, now each couple has to bet on their luck to be drawed in lottery for one apartment among every 50 applicants.

Do not be pissed off if you can not go for a drink in the safe and enjoyable places like Bombshelter. When standing in front of the nudity of money, do you expect the "smart" business people can let it go away?

But, really, I hate to mention it: I am shamed.

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The Article in The Record

I think that both sides of the story are represented well in this article and that the facts are actually correct.

Check it out:

http://www.therecord.com/news/news_03012271516.html

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  • re: by Kyle Selmes

Finger-Pointing

I have graduated from UW in 2001 already, which gives me a different perspective than most of the people and media involved in this situation.

I am sorry to see Fed Hall and Bombers go. They are both great places to hang out, and that's not just for the alcohol.

My understanding from what I've read so far:

1. FEDS don't own the liquor license, they just run the place and keep all the money in their pockets. They don't want UW Food Services/Admin to get involved with Fed Hall & Bombers' management because touch their source of revenues.

2. UW owns the liquor license and is responsible for compliance with the law, as well as peace-keeping in the campus area in general. They see Fed Hall & Bombers' as places run by whinies, and think they'll do a much better job.

So basically, FEDS are saying students lose their jobs because the big, bad, evil Emperor (aka UW Admin) shut down Fed Hall and Bombers, and UW Admin are saying FEDS are just a bunch of l0s3Rs who haven't finished their potty training yet and refuse to wear the diapers they offered to these babies to prevent piss showing up all over their place.

Can I say finger-pointing?

I always think that both FEDS and UW Admin are poorly operated... but this is not something I've been expecting.

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No beer for staff make homer something something

Well staff got their pay stubs today and the pension deduction has been increased to 100% of normal. That translates to a case or two of beer a month the university is taking away from each staff member!

That's it.

I'm calling CBC and someone should call the print media. Shall we call for the resignation of Catherine Scott? I say yes!

Who's with me? Don't let this violation of our autonomy continue!

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Prime Ministers in Waiting

LOL... Do you really want these two representing your interests to the admin at UW?
http://uwstudent.org/images/2003/01jan/20bomber02.jpg

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DiLullo talk at St. Paul's

The PR problem is solved!!! Put Chris in front of the microphone at all times.

He just finished a 15-minute talk at St. Paul's on the issues. He was charming, articulate, honest, direct, professional, level-headed, responsive, open - quite possibly one of the best public speakers I've ever seen.

I just deleted about 15 lines of stuff I wrote (there may just be hope for technology), but in short, Chris had better become the public face of this exercise (especially to the Record and CKCO; the doubting locals).

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Is this how we treat the leaders of tomorrow?

Since many of us will be checking our grades tomorrow morning as they are posted on Quest, perhaps you might pay attention to how UW pats itself on the back for producing the "leaders of tomorrow." Now maybe I'm wrong, but is this how you treat the leaders of tomorrow - by trying to hold them by the hand when FEDS has shown itself to be more than competent when it comes to the operation of Fed Hall and the Bomber? What happened at Fed on New Year's Eve was terrible, but as someone else pointed out in one of their comments, is that anything when compared to the lunacy one would face if trying to go to a bar in downtown toronto, whom also hold the same liquor licenses that we do? This is my fifth year at this school, and while MINOR infractions have occurred, FEDS has always acted responsibly and rectified the situation as demanded by the contract they have with the Administration (as far as I can tell at least, but if someone has evidence to the contrary then by all means, show it). Lastly, was the liquour license ever really in jeopardy? I'm sure that if a major infraction had occurred, swift action would have taken place. Anyone remember what happened to Johnny Fiasco's? Peel Pub in Toronto? And when you think of those bars, can you honestly suggest that Fed and Bomber are that poorly-runned to be shut down like this? Since I have to get back to my stats, I will end by saying that I pity the future students who choose to come to this school. What will be taken away next? TVs in all res comfy lounges? I have always thought this school looks like a jail in the winter, and with the recent turn of events, that thought is becoming more of a reality. Can't figure out why this place has absolutely no school spirit at all.

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Jan 23rd, 2003 Editorial in The K-W Record

End the pub dispute

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Urgent: Protest Tomorrow: Fri Jan 24 at 12:30pm

There will be a student protest tomorrow at 12:30 p.m. in the Arts quadrangle outside Dana Porter library. Students will be rallying then moving to the SLC to pick up the banners that are currently posted and continuing on to Fed Hall. The Feds will have hot chocolate available for everyone there.

At Fed Hall the Feds will be hosting a press conference announcing the creation of a support fund for the students that are currently unemployed due to the bar shut down. The Federation of Students will be starting the fund with a $1000 donation and will be seeking donations from supportive organizations. The Feds will be recognizing all the groups who contribute to the support fund on stage and we will have jars available for students at the rally to
contribute.

Please get as many students out to the protest as you can and try to contribute to the support the protest and the fund.

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Not to Cause S&^T but What about Poet's

I'm not on campus anymore but back when I was wasn't Poet's still on campus? Don't they server beer? Shouldn't they be closed as well?

Thanks
Dave

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Maybe UWS could start a new story...

Just because it's getting hard to follow the comments in this one. Maybe today's protest would be a good start.

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Other news?

Is there any other news going on around campus right now? I'm sure there is and I would love to hear some of it - I'm sure other people out there agree with me.

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On a lighter note...

Here we go, on a lighter note today is Superbowl Sunday, a truly great day in sports. Go Bucs Go.
On a more serious note, I should be at the bomber watching this game. Anybody want to take any guesses to how much money the bomber lost today...
I am looking forward to going back to work!!!
Hope to see you all next week!!!

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On a lighter note...

Here we go, on a lighter note today is Superbowl Sunday, a truly great day in sports. Go Bucs Go.
On a more serious note, I should be at the bomber watching this game. Anybody want to take any guesses to how much money the bomber lost today...
I am looking forward to going back to work!!!
Hope to see you all next week!!!

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508

you know 516 is the record, right?

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The Next Step?

So what is to come of this whole situation? Laying blame and pointing fingers can only get you so far, you actually need to sit down and discuss things. While I support the choice to not meet with Chakma without an agenda, perhaps it is time to meet with him and/or others and discuss a way to resolve the situation. For all I know, these things could already be happening and I just don't know about them.

What's the worst that can happen; he won't let the bomber and fed hall reopen to sell alcohol? If nothing is done, that's the way things will end up anyway.

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Now I really need my job!

Well now I just found out that I am not getting half as much money from OSAP!!! I am seriously lost financially because of this and have no clue what to do. Money that I thought I would have from OSAP is no longer there. Therefore no books, no tuition, and no rent. One more thing to say.

Thanks a lot UW ADMIN...

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Now I really need my job!

Well now I just found out that I am not getting half as much money from OSAP!!! I am seriously lost financially because of this and have no clue what to do. Money that I thought I would have from OSAP is no longer there. Therefore no books, no tuition, and no rent. One more thing to say.

Thanks a lot UW ADMIN...

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