June 30, 1997

Posted on April 23, 1998 at 06:53:57:


"Facts, my lord, are like cows, my old mother always used to say; if you look them in the eye, they'll generally turn and walk away from you."
-Dorothy Sayers, "Clouds of Witness"

UU Cafe Vol 2, No 13 June 30, 1997

\_/7 UU Cafe \_/7

A Newsletter By and For Unitarian Universalists & Friends Online.
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We join our efforts to those of many others in building
the worldwide community of UUs made possible by the Internet.


\_/7 Online Chat

"Unitarian Universalism Online"

~)-| MONDAY 10:00 pm ET (7:00 pm PT)
Chat: Star Trek Theology
Place: IRC Channel #scifitheology
(Java browser) http://www.talkcity.com/chat/ and join #ReflectingPool
(AOL mIRC, pIRCh or Ircle) chat.talkcity.com Port:7000
(other) chat.talkcity.com Port :6667
Host: UUDRE@aol.com
Topic: June 30th: Jake Sisko vs. Wesley Crusher: Who is the Better Role Model?
July 7th: Jake Sisko vs. Wesley Crusher: Role Models

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~)-| TUESDAY 9:00 pm ET (6:00 pm PT)
Chat: Unitarian Universe
Place: AOL /People Connection /Member Room / Life /Unitarian Universe
note: if you go from Life to Member Room instead of from
Member Room to Life, you will automatically be sent back
to the Town Square and have to choose Life once again.
Host: Kylinn
Topic: Church and State matters.

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~)-| THURSDAY 10:00 pm ET (7:00 pm PT)
SUNDAY 5:00 pm ET (2:00 pm PT)
Chat: Race and Diversity Issues
Place: AOL /People Connection /Private Room /UUAA
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Topic: TBA (diversity and race issues in UU congregations)

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~)-| FRIDAY 9:00 pm ET (6:00 pm PT)
Chat: UU IRC chat
Place: IRC Channel #uujoint
connect your IRC software to hebron.in.us.dal.net
(ports 6661 thru 7000 recommended)
Host: Michaele Maurer, dba BoRegard
Topic: July 4th and 11th "An Index for A Modern Book of Virtues"

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~)-| SATURDAY 10:00 pm ET (7:00 pm PT)
Chat: Babylon 5 Theology
Place: IRC Channel #scifitheology
(see above direction for Star Trek Theology)
Host: UUDRE@aol.com
Topic: July 5th: Who Is In Charge on Earth? Does It Matter? To Whom?

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~)-| SUNDAY 8:00 pm ET (5:00 pm PT)
Chat: "SUMBEL at the Ragnarok Bar & Grill"
Place: IRC Channel #uujoint
(see above direction for UU IRC chat)
Host: Michaele Maurer, dba BoRegard
Topic: Toasts to high and noble things. No Gatorade or Diet Pepsi!

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~)-| SUNDAY 9:30 pm ET (6:30 pm PT)
Chat: Bible Study for Liberals
Place: IRC Channel #ReflectingPool
Host: UUDRE@aol.com
Topic: July 6th: Mark 5:21-43: The Woman Who Touches Jesus' Hem


\_/7 Correspondence
From our Mailbox

Subj: Re: Christian Unitarians
From: Rev Dano@aol.com

In a message dated 6/22/97 5:06:22 PM EST, it is written:

> For those who still want to believe in the Christ, the 2nd person
> of the Trinity, I'd recommend the Congregational Church. It's a
> Protestant group, is trinitarian, and is pragmatically liberal.
> For those who do not believe in the Christ, we have unitarian
> congregations of Unitarians.

We of course, also have UU congregations that welcome Christians.

More and more of our societies, striving for religious diversity, are attempting to work on "interfaith" issues within their own congregations. There have been, are now, and will be, UU Christians and even <gasp!> UU Christian churches. Some people are even starting new UU Christian congregations.

I am not a Christian and it is unlikely I will ever become one. I support diversity of theological belief in our congregations and that includes Christianity. As the unitarian Francis David put it, "we need not think alike to love alike."

I write this on my laptop from the UUA's General Assembly where over 3,000 UUs have gathered from all over the world. What is this year's theme?

Building Interfaith Cooperation.

(Rev.) Daniel Simer O Connell, D.Min.
Parish Minister, West Redding, CT

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Subj: Re: Christian Unitarians
From: Franly@aol.com

In the June 23 Issue, Warren Allen Smith wrote," For those who do not believe in the Christ, we have unitarian congregations of Unitarians." Perhaps in a few places here and there such congregations exist. In the UUA, however, what we have are * Unitarian Universalist* congregations for people who believe a great variety of things but who are committed to the ongoing search for truth and meaning in a community of seekers who share their vision and their understanding, who listen to one another in order to understand rather than to argue, and whose religious experience is enriched and deepened by its interaction with the differing experience of others. This is where our future lies, not in the backward-pointing brand of exclusively rationalistic humanism described by Mr. Smith.

Frances Manly



Celebrate Diversity is the theme of SUUSI '97 -- the Southeastern Unitarian Universalist Summer Institute at Radford, Virginia July 27 - August 2, 1997.
For more info, link to http://www.uucamps.org/suusi/suusi.html.


From uua-l:

Subject: new e-mail list: UU-Leaders
Reply to: UU-Leaders-request@uua.org

Many lay leaders in Unitarian Universalist congregations can feel isolated in their church work, especially if the nearest UU church is hours away. A new e-mail discussion group aims to give UU lay leaders a community: the UU-Leaders list.

UU-Leaders is an e-mail mailing list ("listserve") for Unitarian Universalist congregational lay leaders, including but not limited to presidents, chairs, moderators, board members, committee chairs, officers, and trustees. The purpose of the list is to share information and provide support for issues and questions common to those involved in lay leadership roles. The list presents the opportunity for networking, in order to help each other and to benefit from each others' experience and expertise.

Subscribers to the UU-Leaders list can discussion topics like long-term planning, working with volunteers (recruitment, motivation, recognition, accountability, etc.), growth issues, safety issues, congregational missions and goals, fiscal matters (long and short term), lay ministry, lay-led adult RE, ministerial search, ministerial settlement, ministerial relations, and handling conflict.

To subscribe to UU-Leaders, send an e-mail message to:


Leave the subject line blank. In the body of the message, including this single line:

subscribe UU-Leaders yourfirstname yourlastname

Replace "yourfirstname yourlastname" with your name.

For more information about the UU-Leaders list, send e-mail to


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\_/7 Around The Internet

Web Sites

Reports and pictures from the 1997 General Assembly ("Building Interfaith Cooperation: You Need Not Think Alike to Love Alike") are on the UUA's web site, at


If you attended GA and would like to tell other readers about your experience there, please send your report to Myrna38717@aol.com.

Meanwhile, here are some excerpts from the GA News page:

Interfaith Task Force Chair Rev. Suzanne Meyer [parish minister of First UU Church in New Orleans], is spreading the "Good News" at GA. She says, "We knew from anecdotal evidence that there was a lot going on at the international, national, and local level. The more we asked around, the more "good news" emerged. UUs are working together with members of other faiths in almost every significant justice arena. We wanted to highlight not only what was already in place, but also to inspire other congregations to join or help form voluntary associations within their own communities. We hear the news about the work of right-wing groups such as the Christian Coalition, but seldom of the good work done by other communities of faith united for more progressive and humane agendas. As religious liberals we often feel a sense of isolation, especially in communities where there are few of us. But interfaith justice work allows us to make a big impact and bring our values to bear on critical social issues. That's what the focus of this year's program is all about, bringing this good news to light, and we hope, inspiring other congregations to become involved with interfaith groups."

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From Rev. John A. Buehrens' address to GA:

I hope the theme of this GA will be similarly galvanizing. Putting our UU presence back at the heart of interfaith efforts for justice has been a big part of what Denny and I have worked on -- going to the White House to meet about burned churches and racial justice; going on TV for the Religious Coalition on Reproductive Choice; on radio, to discuss spiritual support for same-sex marriage; to the Pentagon, where two UUs have served as Secretary of Defense, to talk about land mines and Bosnia; to the halls of Congress, and the plaza where freedom was sought at Faneuil Hall, to talk against discrimination and for campaign finance reform; to meetings of Councils of Churches and among those who have reason to hate churches. We've traveled also to India, where the one thing most needful in this world -- the full empowerment of the world's women -- is demonstrated now by our Holdeen programs; to Belfast for the IARF; and to Beijing for the World Conference on Religion and Peace, to talk with government and religious leaders about religious freedom and human rights; to the Parliament of the World's Religions and even to Rome to meet the Pope -- where my dear wife, Gwen, advised me to begin, "Your Holiness, my wife, the priest, says . . .".

"We need not think alike to love alike," wrote Francis David more than 400 years ago. What the world needs are people who love it -- passionately, religiously -- who, without believing that they have all the answers or all the tools to do so, yet want to save in it what is whole and just and shot through with the beauty of grace.

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The great debate of the second-day plenary revolved around the proposed resolution for a just economic community. Delegate Jonathan Fine of Concord, Mass. said, "This is a watershed moment for this denomination. Are we going to become involved in one of the great questions of this time or are we going to turn away?"

Before a final vote, delegates rejected an amendment to the resolution which would have eliminated consumer boycotts as a protest of foreign goods produced by those who work in substandard conditions. Advocates of the failed amendment said boycotting companies that exploit workers makes it worse for those employees. Opponents said boycotts remain a legitimate political tool.

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In his annual report, President Buehrens ceremonially handed a group of UU youths and young adults an oversized check for $10 million which capped off a fundraising campaign that started with his first term in office. "Four years ago I felt I was handed a very large tin cup," he said.

The $14 million pledged will be used to "build the future," Buehrens said, by helping growing congregations. More than 14,000 UUs aided the effort.

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UU Netheads "ingathering"
Friday evening workshop

The now-traditional UU "Netheads" get-together was held on Friday evening. Approximately 30 UUs from around the world gathered to exchange greetings and share success-stories from the past year in UU cyberspace.

Ed. note: to see pictures of these "netheads," go to URL


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During Saturday's plenary session, a proposal to give UUA district presidents GA voting privileges went down to defeat once again. The proposal did not receive the necessary two-thirds vote required to amend the bylaws and an initiative that began in 1994 came to an end. The UUA Board of Trustees had recommended approval of the change by a vote of 12 to 9 with 1 abstention.

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The process began Friday to select one of five Study/Action Issues for intensive UU study:

support of the United Nations
health care reform
gender justice
building religious tolerance through interfaith cooperation

Saturday's plenary session selected the last issue, "building religious tolerance through interfaith cooperation", and started a three year process to result in a Statement of Conscience on the issue. If adopted, it will become official UUA policy.

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GA attendees gathered [Sunday] afternoon at the Civic Plaza to protest Arizona's laws against sodomy. Hundreds of UUs from all over North America protested Arizona laws criminalizing consenting sexual contact between gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people.

The protest featured speeches by Arizona state representative Ken Cheuvront; Jeff Ofstehdahl, editor of the Echo, a Phoenix-based journal focusing on gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered concerns; and Mary Berkheiser, Arizona State University professor and Human Rights Fund lobbyist. The common theme of their addresses was "Educate for Action." The Rev. Keith Kron, Director of the Unitarian Universalist Association's Office of Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered Concerns, moderated the event.

The UUA has a long history of affirming the human rights and inherent dignity of bisexual, gay, lesbian, and transgendered people. By resolution of the UUA, whenever a General Assembly is held in a state with anti-sodomy laws on the books, a visible protest is sponsored during the GA.

Humor from the Internet

Submitted by: redison@enteract.com; original author unknown


"I'm just gettin' on for a MINUTE"


I got up this morning, but haven't yet dressed.
My dishes aren't done, and my house is a mess.
Have not done my work, have not fed the cat,
Just online for a second, and popped in to "chat."
I used to watch TV, I used to cook Mex,
I think I remember...yeah, I used to have SEX!
I used to walk upright, now roll on my chair,
Tho' it causes the neighborhood children to stare.
I wanted to travel around on the Net,
Been too busy chatting to get on there yet.
I wanted to spreadsheet, word process, or paint,
But gettin' on with them is just what I ain't!
So much to learn and I wanted to but
I'm too busy chatting and splitting a gut,
Talkin' and listenin'...is it such a sin?
Oh, gawd, what a fix I have got myself in!
Then up pops a name on my neat Buddy List,
Think I'll go out and give HIS tail a twist!
And in comes an IM from some weirdo guy
I cuss 'im, insult 'im, and tell him "bye bye."
Is there a 12 step, support group, or such?
For those of us folks who chat on too much?
If there was a group, I would like it just fine,
Except that it prob'ly would be here online!
Are there therapists here? I think that I saw some
It's got me, it's got me, its power is AWESOME.
It's my new computer, I've had it one week,
Now I look in the mirror and I see a "geek."
Or maybe a geekess, but I see the signs,
Please help me, please help me, please get me offline!
Or better, please Email a burger and fries,
'Cause I'm staying ONLINE, at least 'til I die!!!


\_/7 One more drop...

"Half the world is too busy and the other half is unemployed."

-Pete Seeger


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