You just know the Loony Left is going to start screaming that it's racial profiling, McCarthyism, innocent people being rounded up just because they're Muslims...

I guess it's easier for them to believe that our country is riddled with anti-Muslim bigots than to believe that it's riddled with Islamofascist spies.

Execution at Dawn.

No comments at all...I just think I'm first! Ok, I'll say this I'm glad they got him.

There are Israeli and American spies too! What are you saying, it's worse when it's an Arab spy? You bigots!

shit.

David Simon

Good One.

#4 David Simon

People like Ingersol make the same argument with WMD. "Hey, look, the US has them too!"

Yeah, asshole, the US had heavy bombers in WW2, but there was stuff to bomb. You do NOT disarm in the middle of a goddamn war!

/venting

It's good to see that whether or not political correctness is obstructing profiling, the DOJ is managing to watch and nab Islamist agents.

Since David Simon did Robert Ingersol, let me do View From Ireland. Here goes.

He probably needed the CD-ROMs and the laptop to find his way around the Guantanamo facility. Obviously, this is just another paranoid over-reaction by you American babboons. In Europe, we let our Arabs carry classified CD-ROMs all over and don't hassle them. The increased risk of terrorism is far outweighed by the reassuring moral superiority it gives us.

How'd I do?

Here's an interesting tidbit about the airman:

A military investigator said last week that Al-Halabi had been under investigation before he arrived at the base.

The Air Force Office of Special Investigations began looking into his case in November 2002 while he was a supply clerk at Travis Air Force Base in California, the agent wrote in court documents. Al-Halabi was sent to the Cuban base weeks later as an Arabic language interpreter for the al-Qaida and Taliban suspects there.

Could it be that the military is giving these guys just enough rope to hang themselves?

(Thanks for the tip o' hat, sir.)

#5 John Palubiski.

Ha ha!

/muntz

And the hits just keep on comin' . . . .

#9 Viking Kitten

Not bad at all, but not condescending enough.

Agent: Your papers pleeze.

Mehalba: Uh sure, what seems to be the problem?

Agent: Nothing at the moment, ummm, may we look in your bag?

Mehalba: Well, I…I guess so, but…

Agent: But what? You hiding somethin’ mister? (searching bag) You seem a little bit nervous.

Mehalba: I’m cool man, (Agent pulls out CD) Okay dude, you gotta’ believe me…really, I don’t know how that CD got in there. I don’t know where it came from, it’s not mine…

Agent: Well mister, looks like you’ll be doing some hard time, let’s us just take look at depth of your disgusting betrayal of public trust (listens to CD)…dammit, it’s just some sensitive national security data. No illegally downloaded or pirated music here. Crap, we got nothin’ on him. Alright boys, turn him over to the FBI for racial profiling.

(nobody expects the RIAA inquisition)

#7 Colt:

I love when people use that "The US has WMD, too" argument. My response to that is that the US is morally superior to all other nations because of the form of our government, so, guess what? We get to decide who else can join Club A-Bomb. A fun follow-up statement is that since we are also the most powerful country militarily, we're just going to keep our WMD until someone bigger and badder comes along (Space Aliens? The French?) comes along and makes us surrender them.

It sucks being the most powerful nation in the history of the entire Universe, but somebody has to be, so it might as well be the US!

Maybe the fact that a civilian translator heads off for Cairo after his services at Guantanamo would be a "red flag" for the FBI/CIA, no? It looks like someone has pulled their head out of their arse and is finally able to connect the dots.

The WaPo's (AP) version of this story contains the following interesting nugget about Ahmad I. al-Halbi, the second guy who got nabbed:

Another suspect is Army Capt. Yousef Yee, a Muslim chaplain who is being detained without charge at the Navy brig in Charleston, S.C. Al-Halabi is behind bars at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., forbidden to speak Arabic.

Does the military run an affirmative action program for jihadis at Gitmo?

#9, Vicking Kitten. Not to well, you are too rational to in your attemp to imitate VFI. You miss the sulpherous excremental quality of his posts. Also he is virtually never on the topic of the thread.

Seeing as how we're all troll channelling. What about innocent until proven guilty? Or does this basic human right not exist in AshKKKrofts America?

**********

Why is he being held by civilian law enforcement? I'd fling him into Gitmo.

Where's the Muslim "community" on this one?

Keep roundin' em up cowboys!

Waaaaay OT, but.....

General Clark Explores Possibility of Time travel

Gary Melnick, a senior astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, said Clark's faith in the possibility of time travel was "probably based more on his imagination than on physics."

As far as I can tell, this is NOT a gag article, since Wired isn't into that sort of thing.

#14 Sharkman 9/30/2003 09:24AM

hehehe! yup.

Colt: Not bad at all, but not condescending enough.

Let me try again...

So, it's now illegal for an Arab to possess data storage devices, is it? I don't deny that security is a concern, I've been touched by terrorism myself. Eventually, we learned it was best to forgive the terrorists and integrate them into our political structure, not that you would ever allow anything so sane and reasonable to happen in Uhmurruhkuh

Now, Colt, do "Ahem"

#13 FreakyBoy 9/30/2003 09:23AM

Mehalba: I’m cool man, (Agent pulls out CD) Okay dude, you gotta’ believe me…really, I don’t know how that CD got in there. I don’t know where it came from, it’s not mine…

haha! too funny!

#9 Viking Kitten - I give it a 9. Add a touch of cunty narcissism and it's a 10 babe.

I'd say the military better start offering ROTC scholarships to US born college students studying Arabic. Korean and Persian and Urdu wouldn't be bad languages for the military to encourage students to learn.

And, of course, the rule I think should be imposed on chaplains ( US born citizen, no criminal record, no visits to terrorist nations in last 10 years ) should apply to these people to.

Plus the occasional check that they haven't gone native like Captain ( soon to be Private) Yee.

#14 Sharkman

I used the same point until I was called (I shit you not) a "militarist". Can you believe that?

Ok, maybe it was a fair point. I mean, keeping the WMD 'cause no-one can stop us ain't quite perfect morally.

But I'm still having trouble explaining that we're in the midst of a war.

James Woolsey now on CSPAN2

the depressing thing about this, is that Immigration stopped this fellow AFTER he returns from Egypt.

this country is wide open

#23 Viking Kitten

That's the stuff :-)

Now, Colt, do "Ahem"

He's on my "scroll past" roster. I haven't read enough to do it properly. I would if I could, but I'm glad that I can't. If that makes sense... :-)

#21 Titus,

Fortunately, that article is legit. Typical moonbat. No need for facts, he just feels he is right. I wonder if he will be appearing at the next Star Trek convention along side Ohura (sp) and Checkov (sp)?

#18 gymnasy,

I'm not trying to be picky, but VFI is a female. I don't want her jumping down your neck, derailing a thead even more, for a simple mistake.

RIP Ford,

Uhura and Chekov.

Star Trek junkie from long back.

Picard is better than Kirk. Nyuh, Nyuh, Nyuh-Nyuh!

That should get things jumping.

Shame on me. I'm sorry. I shouldn't waste Charles' bandwidth.

#7 Colt - The one thing I hate about the High Holidays is that I have to spend time with my lunatic liberal relatives who raise "arguments" like the one you mentioned. My great uncle - a retired Wharton professor, natch - imparted this gem last Friday night: "Chemical and biological weapons are not WMD."

I'm sure many thousands of Iranians and Kurds are breathing a sigh of relief right now.

#31 RIP Ford

Well dang, I'm glad he's on the other side then!

Still, time travel would be nice, in the right hands. Just think....send back a team of commandos to Arabia circa 620 AD.

"Alright boys, when ya get there, look for the one with the 6 year old wife...."

#32 Atomic Redneck

Wedge Antilles!

#25 David Simon:

"cunty narcissism"

Is that when a woman first examines "herself" with a mirror?

#23 Viking Kitten - Anyone can do Phlegm. Just link to the most insane liberal left rags, then cut and paste.

Muslims have a fatal flaw. Because of their own delusions of the superiority of Islam, they are inclined to unestimate the intelligence of everyone else.

They simply do not believe any non-Muslim can "figure them out" or are clever enough to see through their lies.

In short, because they believe every Kufr is ignorant and inferior, they take it for granted they will get away with their deceptions.

All the better for our side.

#34 David Simon

Chemical and biological weapons aren't WMD, but (I assume he'd say) poverty is? I just cringe when I hear that. There's no chance of convincing them otherwise.

#27 Colt:

I take a certain amount of pride in being called things like "Militarist". The US has proven over the last hundred years that we can be trusted to do the right thing militarily. Yes, even in Vietnam we were on the side of "right" not wrong.

I think our position A-bomb-wise is very moral, even considering Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We had to use the bomb twice for several reasons: 1) The Japanese would never have surrendered without that use, 2) because they wouldn't surrender, we'd have had to invade Japan and pacify it, which would have resulted in millions of Japanese dead, and 3) the world needed to see the ultimate horror of nukes. So, I believe that keeping WMD until someone more powerful comes along and makes us give them up is a completely moral position to take, especially since that hypothetical more powerful country would also have to be morally stronger than us to prevail over us. I think the chances of such a country ever existing is pretty slim.

Now, the Space Alien option could be a different story. I wonder when Wesley Clark is going to weigh in on the whole Space Alien thing . . .

#38 Nancy

I kind of agree. It's either a misguided sense of superiority or patent stupidity. The Gitmo story broke, what, 2 weeks ago? If I'm a double-agent jihadi, I lay low or, at very lest, don't re-enter the country weighed down with evidence against me!

Morons.

Oh, I can do Gaelic Review much better than that:

We love our Arabs, who are nice and moderate. And how cool that some more Israelis got killed today in their homes - they deserved it.

How did I do?

#42 steve miller

I'd modify it:

It's tragic that those Israelis died in that attack, but the Israelis blew up a house once. And I'm not an anti-semite, I just think there should be another hostile Arab state on Israel's borders.

Good catch! I hope the the curtain is being pulled back on our homegrown fifth column, and we will recover our grandparents' and forefathers' Jacksonian ire and shake off this recent cancer of PC.

But, I want to do a troll impression! Here's one (guess who) won't put his name because he might search for it:

It's all very well and good that a spy who was betraying the U.S. was caught (after all, I put the US interests first, unlike most of you Israel lobbyists on here), but the fact that you all are harping incessantly on the fact he happens to be a Muslim proves this is a hate site, and that you advocate genocide and apartheid for all Muslims.

Just because one Muslim was a spy doesn't mean that there aren't lots of peaceful, moderate Muslims, but then again you haters probably all opposed Daniel Pipes because he thinks the majority of Muslims are moderates.

#39 Colt - You got that right. The only big government program liberals hate is defense.

#36 Just Curious - LOL!

#41 Capt. Queeg

You're forgetting something: those people are expendable. One was caught on re-entry. How many were not caught?

Steve Miller,

Pretty good up until the blowing up Jews in the homes... that sounds more like Abe Greenhouse. VFI prefers to refer to genocide euphemistically. She thinks this is subtle and sophisticated, like saying "Everything But" in college.

Oh, I forgot another Gaelic Review line:

I'm not an anti-Semite; I just want all Jews dead.

#43 Colt

Bingo! Spot on.

#43 Colt - That's just about perfect. Allow me to add the final embellishment: "me,me,me,me....everybody look at me, dammit!"

Any chance that DoD will realize that firing translators for no other reason than for being gay, while giving these fifth-columnists a free pass, was unbelievably stupid?

#46 Pol

Also quite plausible. I assume you read

Miniter this AM?

#52 Capt. Queeg

Before daybreak on Feb. 26, 1993, a yellow Ford 350 Econoline van threaded its way through the Holland Tunnel toward lower Manhattan. At the wheel was Mohammed Salameh, an illegal immigrant with eyesight so poor that he had failed his New Jersey driver's license exam four times.

!!! They sent a frickin' blindman to carry out al-Qaeda's first major attack on US soil !!!

#52 Capt. Queeg

No, I hadn't read it. I just happen to know more than I want to know about the Arabs.

I get mad at whoever happens to spy on my beloved country and think they should all be hanged, shot or disemboweled. It doesnt matter if they Israeli, Rusky, American or Arab.

It just happens this time its those damn, dirty Arabs.

/ Chuck Heston in Planet of the Apes

Oh, I'll get it for that one . . .

#41 Capt. Queeg --

I myself don't know what exactly to call it but they certainly to seem to have bought into their own collective fantasy that being Muslim gives them some sort of superiority --including moral superiority --that they become stupid --ignoring the reality.

I am inclined to think they have been given enough rope to hang themselves --

Will somebody please tell me what the hell is going on at Gitmo? Three people in the last few weeks?

Are we looking at the flypaper syndrome, or are the terrorist mass-murderers somehow persuasive in their rhetoric?

Was there anyone whom Sen. McCarthy actually wrongly accused of being a Communist?

Frank IBC

Lefties like to claim that every movie made between 1954 and 1960 was about the Red Scare, but one they always cite is "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," which is supposed to be a metaphor for communist infiltration. They have a point, because the aliens in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" were real within the context of the movie, just like there really were communists in Hollywood.

channeling myself--these fuckwits have connections to egypt and syria--this has got to be a muslim brotherhood operation--you know they have "forsworn" violence in egypt and their political wing controls the "THOUGHT" guilds--lawyers, teachers,engineers--these are salafi motherfuckers who are desciples of sayd qutb and his brother[bin laden's teacher in saudi] and are the comintern of the international islamist movement--they are way dangerous and way insidious and should be outed in the mass media and viewed as was the communist party in the '50's--instead they spotlight the need for a special counsel to keep the wilson family saga in play--modern day investigative reporting equals finding schmutz in your navel that you are contemplating

#55   Alex F

...or as Jay Severin on Boston talk radio likes to say:

"Not all the Muslims are terrorists. But so far, all the terrorists have been Muslims."

ESSENTIAL DOWNLOAD!!!

It is the duty of every muslim to sign strategic treaties with the kaffir only under compulsion, and then work to break them.

http://web.fares.net...

Ben F:

Explain your pathological trust of muslims. Your apologism is getting more savage by the minute.

If we don't use our advantage in WMD against this mortal enemy at the earliest opportunity, then they will turn the tables on us.

#44 rebmiami:
Sounds like a very good spoof of Bobby/Airhead. If that's who you were trying for, you need to add a quote from an earlier post (doesn't have to apply to what you wrote) at the end of your post.

So this guy was coming from Egypt with classified Gitmo info? Either he's pretty dumb or the story is pretty suspicious. If it's real info, then it looks like the INS at Logan has better security than the Gitmo camp (or they just got lucky).

Or maybe it's doctored info, and the guy was going to plant it at Gitmo.

More stuff we'll never know...

#58 Yair 9/30/2003 10:23AM PST
...Are we looking at the flypaper syndrome, or are the terrorist mass-murderers somehow persuasive in their rhetoric?

'Assisted' Flypaper, methinks.
Pretty risky method of Loyalty Testing, I think (as well).

#44 Rebmiami - That's damn good. We haven't heard from Gordon lately. Or have I just missed it?

#67 David Simon wins!
Sorry #64 cba, I don't know that one. I have actually gone a round or two with Genocide Apartheid G. (GAG), so he was my inspiration.

#62 Let's roll

"Not all the Muslims are terrorists. But so far, all the terrorists have been Muslims."

Well, let's not forget the militant fundamentalist armed wing of the Episcopal Church. And Presbyterian Jihad.

Pentagon muslim School Probe

Oh, gullible me - I swallowed that "love your neighbor as yourself" smokescreen spewed by the "political wing" of the United Methodists. I feel like such a sap.

(#71) Frank IBC:

I swallowed that "love your neighbor as yourself" smokescreen spewed by the "political wing" of the United Methodists.

Another casualty of one of the biggest Zionist conspiracies of all time, I see...

The Jehovah's Witnesses may seem to be pacifists when you read their materials in English, but if you actually translate the stuff that's in Jehovahish, it's pretty blood-curdling stuff.

And "Presbyterian", comes from "Presbuter", the Greek word for "Elder", which in Arabic is of course "Sheik".

So I guess they should just be called the "Sheikians".

This is much worse than the others because here we know for a fact that the info did get passed on...

Viking Kitten (#9)

You did fine but try adding a little more whine and drone please...

Well, let's not forget the militant fundamentalist armed wing of the Episcopal Church. And Presbyterian Jihad.

And the Buddhist hijackers.

Are we even baiting the hook anymore or are these nimrods just biting outta blind stupidity?

They're addicted!

And who knows what these sand-nazis screw-up (purposefully) during their 'paid' work...

Flypaper. They chummed the water and are catching jihadis. As an added benefit this might induce a hint of paranoia in terrorist agents in the future.