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<!-- p included in template--> This is a list of hardware, from !PDAs to DVD players, that can play Ogg Vorbis files. Hopefully you can find what you want, if not, come back next week: several companies who can see the value and popularity of Vorbis are working to support it on their hardware. If you know of any other hardware or projects, please add them to the list. <!-- More hardware info can be found at <a href="http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html"> http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html</a>. --> </p> <hr/> <h1 id="native">Consumer products that support Vorbis natively</h1> <h2><a href="http://www.neurosaudio.com/">Neuros</a> Digital Audio Computer</h2> <p> The Xiph.org Foundation has brought Vorbis playback to the Neuros Digital Audio Computer. See <abbr title="Digital Innovations">DI</abbr>’s <a href="http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=80"> press release </a> about the agreement. </p> <p> <strong>UPDATE:</strong> DI recently released stable firmware version 1.45 (available at their <a href="http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates.asp">Support Updates page</a>); this is the first stable firmware release for the Neuros that includes Ogg Vorbis support.<br /> Support for adding Ogg Vorbis files through the Neuros Sync Manager software is still in beta, but Xiph.org’s <a href="http://www.xiph.org/positron/">Positron</a> and Sean Starkey’s <a href="http://neurosdbm.sf.net/">Neuros Database Manipulator</a> both provide support for adding Ogg Vorbis files to the Neuros. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/">Riō</a> <a href="http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220&cat=56">Karma</a> (<a href="http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/rio_karma_official_big.jpg">Picture</a>)</h2> <p> This 20Gb portable player has Ogg Vorbis and [FLAC] support, and has been <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQIFZ">available from <em>Amazon</em></a> in the United States since October 2003. The unit should now be available from UK online retailers (e.g., <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQIFZ"><em>Amazon UK</em></a>), though full volume (and presumably lower prices) won’t be available until mid-late January 2004. A full retail launch in Europe is also likely to happen in early 2004. </p> <p> <a href="http://gear.ign.com"><em>IGN</em></a> have written <a href="http://gear.ign.com/articles/433/433165p1.html">preview</a> and <a href="http://gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html">review</a> articles about the Karma 20. <a href="http://www.riovolution.com"><em>Riovolution</em></a> has a great <a href="http://www.riovolution.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=15">Riō Karma forum</a> where the Riō developers hang out. There is also a <a href="http://www.riovolution.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17"> nice gallery</a> of Riō Karma pictures. Note that firmware versions prior to 1.25 cause <a href="http://www.riovolution.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=546">stability problems</a> for some people. <a href="http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=113">Current versions of the firmware</a> fix these problems, and also contain some new features. <strong>UPDATE:</strong> firmware 1.41 out, fixes some problems with vorbis files. </p> <p> Originally, Riō also planned to release a 40Gb version of the Riō Karma: the Riō Karma 40. Unfortunately, it now appears that the Karma 40 is on indefinite hold, due to problems sourcing the 40Gb hard drives from Hitachi. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.iriver.com/">iRiver</a> iHP-1xx, iGP-100, iFP-3xxt, iFP-5xxt ,iMP-550 and possibly others</h2> <p> In September, iRiver released <a href="http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355"> a new announcement</a> detailing their plans for Vorbis playback. </p> <p> In summary, most of their players are sure to support Vorbis, with the possible exception of the iFP-1xx line, and iMP-50, 100, and 150 line. Getting Vorbis running on the low-end iMP line may be difficult, and is quite difficult with the iFP-1xx line. The announcement has more details. </p> <p> <b>iRiver flash players support vorbis with firmware update.</b> --2003/12/24 <br> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=364&page=1&mode=Total&strque=&field=1">iRiver offers firmware upgrade for iFP-3xxT and iFP-5xxT series flash players.</a><br><Br> Currently, firmware upgrades are available for the <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iMP-550">iMP-550</a> (Vorbis support in <a href="http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=367&page=1&mode=Total&strque=&field=1">firmware v1.5</a> which is in open beta as of Jan 27, 2004) <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-380T">iFP-380T</a> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-390T">iFP-390T</a> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-395T">iFP-395T</a> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-590T">iFP-590T</a> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-595T">iFP-595T</a> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-599T">iFP-599T</a> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-100">iHP-100</a> and <a href="http://www.iriver.co.kr/product/info.asp?p_group=iHP&p_name=iHP-115">iHP-115</a> (only available in Korea?), 10Gb and 15Gb portable players. The <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-120">iHP-120</a>, a 20Gb portable player, the <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-300">iHP-300</a>, and <a href="http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-140">iHP-140</a> support Vorbis playback out of the box. <a href="http://gear.ign.com"><em>IGN</em></a> have reviews of the <a href="http://gear.ign.com/articles/435/435472p1.html">iHP-100</a> and <a href="http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html">iHP-120</a>. <br> <br> <a href="http://www.iriver.com/company/news.asp">iRiver's news page</a> has current information concerning firmware updates for their players. </p> <p> The provided program for manipulating the database will not work on ogg vorbis files. iRipDB (<a href="http://www.marevalo.net/iRipDB/">http://www.marevalo.net/iRipDB/</a>) can build the database, using id3 and ogg comment tags. (But it doesn't support the windoze media formats) </p> The <a href="http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iGP-100.asp">iGP-100</a>, a 1.5Gb portable player (only available in the US?), supports Vorbis, according to the FAQ, though no firmware upgrade appears to be required. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php">!PhatNoise’s PhatBox</a>, <a href="http://www.kenwoodusa.com/excelon/excelonKeg.jsp">Kenwood’s Music Keg</a> (“Powered by !PhatNoise”)</h2> <p> These are in-car players that are installed into the trunk of your car and hooked up to your car stereo. Both players run ARM-Linux and support playback of [FLAC] files. Beta firmware to support Ogg Vorbis is available at <a href="http://phatbox.sixpak.org/phatbox/ogg.phtml"> http://phatbox.sixpak.org/phatbox/ogg.phtml</a>. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.kiss-technology.com/">KISS Technology’s</a> DP-450 and DP-500 DVD Players (and others?)</h2> <p> These DVD players can play .ogg files from CD-Rs and CD-!RWs (but reportedly have trouble with UTF-8 comments that aren’t also ASCII), as well as !DivX (but not !DivX Vorbis). Reportedly, other DVD players from KISS Technology also support Vorbis. </p> <p> <strong>There are reportedly problems with some versions of the firmware (2.6.6 ≤ <i>x</i> < 2.7.1)</strong>, where playback is awful for a bitrates greater than 128Kb/s. Also, there are potential GPL license issues with MPlayer, as project developers are <A HREF="http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html">accussing</A> KISS of using their code without releasing modifications. KISS denies using MPlayer, although they have released the source to their Linux variant and other GPL code running on their DVD players. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.mpsharp.com/">MPST Digital Jukebox</a></h2> <p> The MPST Digital Jukebox is a Linux PC designed for audio playback and sold as a stereo component, which of course can play Vorbis. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.ifreemax.com/">Freemax</a> FW-960</h2> <p> This hardware manufacturer’s new CD-R portable supports Ogg Vorbis playback out of the box. It will have 48 hours of WMA playback if an external battery pack (2 AA batteries) is used. In Korea, its retail price is 189,000 KRW, or approximately 160 USD. </p> <p> More information is available (in Korean) on the product page for the <a href="http://www.ifreemax.com/html/product.shtml">FreeMax FW-960</a>. </p> <p> The !FreeMax FW-960 is also known as the mpman MP-CD550. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.umax.de">Umax/Yamada</a></h2> <p> <a href="http://www.umax.de">Umax/Yamada</a> have a few standalone DVD players that support Vorbis. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.neuston.com">Neuston</a></h2> <p> <a href="http://www.neuston.com">Neuston</a> provides a standalone DVD player (model DVX-1201) that supports Vorbis. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.samsungusa.com/">Samsung</a></h2> <p> The MCD-CM600 is now available in Korea. It is a CD portable that can play Vorbis, MP3, and WMA. <a href="http://www.kbench.com/hardware/?no=22319&pg=4">Page with photo of MCD-CM600</a>. <a href="http://www.kbench.com/iview.jsp?file=/kbench/article/2003_10/k22319p4n10.jpg">Closeup of MCD-CM600</a>. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.exonion.com/">Havin</a> Exonion HVC-400E, also known as <a href="http://www.princeton.co.jp/">Princeton</a> Pocket Beat airCD</h2> <p> The Havin HVC-400E, also known as the Princeton airCD is available in Japan and Poland. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.iops.co.kr">iops</a> MFP-3xx players</h2> <p> iops released <a href="http://www.iops.co.kr/home/iops_product.html"> three flash-based Vorbis portables</a>, at 128MB, 256, and 512MB capacities. A 1GB player is also planned soon. </p> <h1 id="third-party">Consumer products that support Vorbis via third-party software</h1> <h2><a href="http://www.palm.com/products/handhelds/tungsten-t/">Palm Tungsten T</a></h2> <p> Using <a href="http://www.pocket-tunes.com/"> NormSoft’s Pocket Tunes software</a> (US$14.95, free 15-day trial), or <a href="http://www.aerodromesoftware.com/"> AeroPlayer</a> (free), the Palm Tungsten T can play Vorbis files. Same goes for other Palm OS5-devices with audiosupport like the <b>Palm Zire 71</b>. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.nokia.com/phones/comparephones/compare_results.jsp?location=EMEA&language=EN&pageaction=COMP&phone=N-Gage&phone=6600&phone=3650">Nokia Series 60 smartphones</a></h2> <p> OggPlay from <a href="http://www.geocities.com/p800tools">http://www.geocities.com/p800tools</a>, has been also ported to Series 60. At least Nokia smartphones has been proved to work, maybe also Siemens SX1 and Sendo will work (they also use Series 60 platform on top of Symbian) </p> <h2><a href="http://www.sonyericsson.com/P800/">Sony Ericsson P800</a></h2> <p> With Ogg Play from <a href="http://www.geocities.com/p800tools">http://www.geocities.com/p800tools</a>, you can play Ogg Vorbis. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/TypeLanding/0,1056,112,00.html"> Sharp’s Zaurus</a></h2> <p> The Zaurus, a very flexible PDA which runs Linux, can play Vorbis files with a variety of software, including plug-ins for the <a href="http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=617">default media player</a>, <a href="http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=423">xmms</a>, <a href="http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=201">ogg123</a>, <a href="http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=803">mplayer</a>, and <a href="http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcplayer/">theKompany.com’s tkcPlayer</a>. </p> <h2><a href="http://english.gamepark.com/">Game Park 32</a></h2> <p> The GP32, an arm9tdmi portable console with much hackability (gcc3 toolchain, expandable memory), has <a href="http://perso.wanadoo.fr/yoyosan/yogg/index.html">a Vorbis player</a> available. </p> <h1 id="planned">Projects to support Vorbis:</h1> <!-- Announced consumer products --> <h2><a href="http://www.dioneer.com/">Dioneer</a></h2> <p> Their new players due out in July or August 2003 will support Ogg Vorbis playback out of the box, according to <a href="http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003042402012267701001"> <em>The Digital Times</em></a> (Korean). </p> <h2><a href="http://www.nextway.co.kr/">Nextway</a></h2> <p> Announced at IFA 2003 in Berlin, Nextway will be selling portables with USB host capabilities. It will have no memory of its own, but will use external memory/external readers to access smartmedia cards, memory sticks, compact flash, external !HDDs, and more. Retail price is planned to be around 50,000 KRW, or approx. 42 USD. Vorbis firmware is planned to be released in November 2003, according to <a href="http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/20030917/080300000020030917145246K9.html"> <em>Yohnap News Agency</em></a> (Korean) and <a href="http://www.nextway.co.kr/etc/hostplayer.html"> a Nextway news article</a> (Korean). </p> <p> A <a href="http://www.nextway.co.kr/products/new_150d.asp">preview of NHD-150D</a>, their 1.5Gb 1″ HDD portable has been announced. It is planned to be released in late February or early March, 2004. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.mpman.com/">mpman</a></h2> <p> Mpman will be releasing a 1.5Gb 1″ HDD portable that can play Vorbis. There’s no mention of it on the website, but an external <a href="http://www.austinv.com/mpman_ifa.htm">preview</a> is available. (It looks like Nextway is the developer of the portable in question.) </p> <p> Mpman will also be offering the MP-CD550, the international version of the !FreeMax FW-960. </p> <!-- Planned software (firmware or third-party) --> <h2>Apple <a href="http://www.apple.com/ipod/">iPod</a></h2> <p> Independently of Apple, <a href="http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/">some people</a> have <a href="http://www.uclinux.org/">µClinux</a> (Linux for !CPUs without !MMUs) running on this. Right now, they are decoding Vorbis at 80% realtime, with hope for improvement. </p> <!-- Announcements of interest, rumours, etc --> <h2><a href="http://www.frontierlabs.com/">Frontier Labs</a></h2> <p> Frontier Labs are independently investigating the possibility of Ogg Vorbis support on the Nex !IIe. Details are not known at the moment. The <a href="http://www.frontierlabs.com/NEXIA.html">Nex iA</a> is advertised as supporting “emerging formats such as Ogg Vorbis through firmware upgrades”. At present, the available firmware upgrades do not provide Vorbis support. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.cowon.com/">Cowon</a></h2> <p> Cowon plans to add Vorbis support to their new HDD portables starting from February 2004, according to <a href="http://www.moneytoday.co.kr/view/2003/12/22/day2003122211520681016.html"> <em>Money Today</em></a> (Korean). </p> <h1 id="silicon">Vorbis in Silicon (non-consumer products):</h1> <h2><a href="http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/">Ogg On A Chip</a></h2> <p> A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how to make !FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.finearch.com/english">FineArch</a></h2> <p> !FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery life. For more information, see !FineArch’s <a href="http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm"> press release</a>. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.mcslogic.com/">MCS Logic</a></h2> <p> MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax. </p> <h2><a href="http://www.tamulsite.co.kr">Tamul Multimedia</a></h2> <p> Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to <a href="http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002"> <em>The Digital Times</em></a> (Korean). </p> <h2><a href="http://www.sigmatel.com/">SigmaTel</a></h2> <p> !SigmaTel hasn’t announced anything that we’ve heard, but we do like this quote: </p> <blockquote> I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker !SigmaTel out of Austin, Texas. She is the company’s expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. “We can’t keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that’s free.” </blockquote> <p> from a 2000 column in Forbes, <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html"><em>MP3 Gives Way To Ogg Vorbis</em></a>. </p> <p> <!-- /p included in template --> <b>New hw player</b> --2003/12/16 15:22 EST<br> These guys claim to have ogg support, any official word on it ? http://www.multichannel-labs.com/pro08_e.htm <b>Sigma Designs EM8550 based players </b> --2004/01/10 12:10 EST<br> All Sigma Designs EM8550 based players like: Pinnacle Showcenter Neuston Virtuoso MC500 Actiontec are playing ogg vorbis! Note: It looks like the Sigma Designs chip is also used in the KISS Technology players. <b>but does it work with __?</b> --2004/01/21 12:51 EST<br> would be nice to include OS compatability in the list, a hardware ogg player sounds fun, but if its MSWindows only (even if the firmware is GNU/Linux) then it will be difficult for some of us to use. <h2><a href="http://www.telechips.com">Telechips</a></h2> Telechips developed TCC72x single chip that can support Ogg Vorbis. TCC72x series are system LSI for digital media player which based on ARM940T, ARM’s proprietary 32-bit RISC CPU core. Iops's MFP-3xx players use TCC-72x chip.