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Old 11-14-2003, 10:44 PM   #21
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Jared Taylor and the folks at American Renaissance have several good things to say about Neo-Folk and related genres.

The New Nationalist Music---Adolescent Rebellion of Racial Commitment?; http://www.amren.com/0011issue/0011issue.html

The issue following the above of AR (DEC2000) contains two interesting opinions in "Letter from Readers". One from Mr. Wakeford himself.
http://www.amren.com/0012issue/0012issue.html


Well, Mr. Wakeford, I'll conjecture that if it wasn't for us racially aware, eurocentrists
your next venue would be on a street corner. Love us or not, we're your biggest fans.


-O.R.I.O.N.

I am very disappointed in Tony Wakeford, I think he’s being disingenuous.
It’s impossible to care about European culture and tradition without being willing to make a stand politically.

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suddenly... I don't feel quite so alone at Stormfront...

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Old 11-14-2003, 10:51 PM   #22
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Well, Mr. Wakeford, I'll conjecture that if it wasn't for us racially aware, eurocentrists
your next venue would be on a street corner. Love us or not, we're your biggest fans.



This is true. I have yet to see some black or mestizo in a Sol Invictus or Death in June concert. Strangely enough, I was browsing some pictures yesterday and I saw some picture of a concert from Estampie: one of their members was a very black looking guy, (Maybe the picture fooled me, he's in profile and the lighting is poor) which surprised me, seeing how Estampie is of a Sacro Medieval nature.

Here's the picture:

http://www.funprox.com/concerts/estampie_sd4.jpg


Granted, Mr. Wakeford and Mr. Pearce might not agree with Eurocentrism (And they have every right not to do so), but they can't deny that many of their fans do.
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Old 11-16-2003, 06:38 AM   #23
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Default My bit of slavish neofolk fandom

Bugger! A neofolk thread gets started and where am I?

Welcome to the board Aistian! Clever chap, you netted the best of the Stormfront community by dangling the tried-and-true "another neofolk thread" carrot. I personally love to read what those who replied to your thread post throughout the board. Common thoughtpatterns and all, I guess.

Hmm, what to add? How about I implore you to take a gander at this great hometown-based project:
Luftwaffe at http://www.kalkisarmy.com/
Splendid music and great citizens as well.
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I mistakenly called Der Blutharsch et al neofolk for the very reason that it’s difficult to label that and similar bands. They can be called ‘apocalyptic’ bands, I suppose.

Not one to nitpick, I wholeheartedly endorse their inclusion under one term, and it might as well be "neofolk." Call Der Blutharsch, Allerseelen, and MLHBAC neofolk until your heart is content. When I say that I follow "neofolk," it seems understood that such bands are included. These projects tour together, collaborate with each other, and share a fan base that groups them together. Further, they tend to experiment with each other's sounds as well- (i.e. Di6's "Operation Hummingbird" and "Take Care and Control" coopting the sound and services of Albin Julius' Der Blutharsch) there is too much crossover. It seems persnickety to delineate things even further (no offence to the helpful delineators Bearer and Gnosis- you know I'm just jealous).
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I was wondering if Blood Axis are still active at all, the last thing I heard was that split with Les Joyaux de la Princesse.

The 9th and latest issue of Esoterra (a art/culture magazine that caters to various facets of the typical neofolk geek's interests) has an add for Allerseelen and Blood Axis releases that mentions at the bottom the upcoming release of Blood Axis' second studio album, called "Ultimacy." Since that issue was for Fall of 2000 I think we might see that elusive album any day now
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I also love the so called neo-classical style of bands like Stoa, Sophia, Arcana, Puissance, Autopsia…

Another commonality revealed! I think it is fascinating that within a "scene" as elusive as neofolk, in that has very little in the way of style or culture guides (compared to the staggering array of fanzines and websites for other subcultures), there are so many common interests among, er, neofolksters... (military costume, eurocentrism, pagan mythology and esoterism, WW2, etc.)
Anywho, may I submit the following essential neoclassical...
Ataraxia @ http://www.ataraxia.net/
and
Mediæval Bæbes @ http://www.mediaevalbaebes.com/

If you like a melange of folk, classical, and modern (rock and trance) and are at all interested in grim Nordic balladry (and who isn't?) I heartily recommend Garmarna (http://www.garmarna.com/) as well.
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And thank you for the interview piece by TMLHBC.. it just proves once again that neofolk is an immanently ‘white’ style of music. The ‘inquisition’ he mentions is truly scary, though…

Here in the "Land of the Free" we have the ARA (anti-Racist Action), who are doing their damndest to protect our civilians from the terrible threat posed by the arrival of neofolk bands to these shores. No clarification on any neofolk band's actual racial stance (or lack thereof) will thwart the ARA from their committment to keeping us black-clad paramilitant-looking Yanks from enjoying the performances of our neofolk heroes.
A few years back they made it quite difficult for Death in June and NON to secure a venue here in Chicago and I REALLY hope the situation is not repeated for the upcoming Di6/Der Blutharsch show, which I am SO looking forward to.
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Granted, Mr. Wakeford and Mr. Pearce might not agree with Eurocentrism (And they have every right not to do so), but they can't deny that many of their fans do.

I too was a bit disappointed, but not surprised or deterred by Tony Wakeford's letter. I am, and will remain, a deeply devoted fan of Sol Invictus, whose "Killing Tide" album awakened my love and interest in this style when I picked it up on a lark in the used bin of Cheapo Records in Minneapolis 8 years ago. Though I was familiar with Death in June, I was not a real fan of the style until absorbing that album- and my transformative path from gothmetal dork to neofolk dork had begun. Whether or not he appreciates the support of people like me I will always appreciate Tony Wakeford's music, the themes of his art, and the sharp wit that abounds on his Tursa website.
I still could not help but chuckle at Eric Owens' (whom I also consider myself a devotee of) reply to Mr. Wakeford- essentially telling him that one reaps what one sows.

Regards then,
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Old 11-16-2003, 11:31 AM   #24
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Default Re: My bit of slavish neofolk fandom

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Mediæval Bæbes


I have all of their CDs... and because of my interest in this group as well as admiring the noted medieval influences of Raison D'etre, I have begun amassing a collection of early music (early = classical medieval, renaissance, baroque). It is an interesting genre which I still know very little about, but I do know I like stuff played on period instruments! The chants (I have CDs of nuns and monks singing) are okay if you're in the mood for it.


Too bad none of y'all live around here, ya could have joined me at this show, for which I've attached a flyer...
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Old 11-18-2003, 02:12 PM   #25
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Wakeford's attempts to dodge the nationalist bullet are disappointing and disingenuous, but not very surprising. He's been attempting to make himself more palatable to wider audiences for years. I love his music, but he's not someone I would look to for ideological reliability.

Just for fun, however, I'll post some excerpts from the essay his wife wrote for his CD Eleven (this particular record was released under the auspices of his L'Orchestre Noir project). Keep in mind that, as the owner of his own label, Wakeford has total control over the entire process of creating and releasing an album. Had he disapproved of the text it would not have been included in the liner notes.

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In the mid-to-late nineteenth century, two major schools of music appeared: an Exoticism inspired by the music of non-Western cultures and a Nationalism inspired by the ancient past of the composer's country. Both Exoticism and Nationalism stemmed originally from the Romantic movement of the mid-nineteenth century, keeping alive its emphasis on the ideal over the real.

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Some composers, however, are not afraid to explore the artistic territories most dear to their heart, even if it goes against modern ideas of political correctness. One such composer is Anthony Charles Wakeford.

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Wakeford's music is clearly not that of the Exotic School but is instead closer in spirit to the Nationalist school. It is, however, not truly Nationalistic, in that it draws inspiration not only from the land of his birth (England) or his adopted homeland (France) but is also inspired by the culture and history of all of Europe. Instead of being Nationalistic, it should more accurately be called Eurocentric or Pan-European. (emphasis added)

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Wakeford's Eurocentrism is not an exclusive Eurocentrism but an inclusive one--his vision is that of a collection of autonomous yet united cultural groups, not that of either one homogenous culture or of a Balkanized Europe constantly at battle among its peoples. It is also not a denigration or devaluation of non-European cultures but instead a celebration of Europe. (Waldteufel: Sounds suspiciously like the vision behind Stormfront, eh?)

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...Eleven is a requiem for a specific people--a requiem for those Europeans fallen in the wars of Europe. Wakeford mourns that too many Europeans have died already--died at the hands of other Europeans.

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...Wakeford expresses his hope of a one-day peaceful, united, yet heterogeneous Europe throughout the work, a hope culminating in the last movement, the aforementioned "Eleven--Dusk," by its incorporation of a children's choir. Wakeford is aware that it may sound trite, but children are the true future, the only future that Europe has, and the use of a children's choir expresses his hope for the future of Europe.

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The content of the above snippets makes Wakeford's letter to AmRen seem all the more ridiculous.
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Old 11-19-2003, 12:35 AM   #26
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Try Elend, Lord Wind
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Old 11-19-2003, 10:36 PM   #27
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I love Elend's Officium Tenebrarum. The Umbersun is a special favorite of mine.
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:57 PM   #28
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Hey good to see their is some neofolkist here:

Just for info

Fire + Ice live in Germany 12/25/2003

Derniere volonte + Allerselen live in Italy 12/20/2003

And Ataraxia live in Italy on 01/10/2004

More info on www.heimdallr.ch
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Stille Volk - Exuvie

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Old 01-22-2004, 03:51 AM   #30
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ive been a follower of the neofolk/power electronics scen for quite some time and just to let you know it has absolutly nothing to do with most of your visions of white power,nationalsocialism etc,in actuality most of the groups detest us(although i still enjoy the music very much) as weel as the majority of fans as weel as bands being homosexual,sexual deviants and the like..its all a sexual fetish to them(the flirting with ns imagery) but the belief in the runes and old europa is very much part of the scene,kinda confusing i know lol
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