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mirdonamy 
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(11/27/99 4:22 pm)
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when MTV aired it's first video "Video killed the Radio
I was 4 years old, my sister was to be born in 20 days. My dad came up to my room to get me and bring me down to the TV room to watch the premier of MTV. It was a few minutes til midnight. I remember looking at the clock and seeing how blurry it looked to me. I sat on my huge, soft green/brown couch with my dad and MTV was born in front of our eyes. Video after video we watched, til about 2am. I fell asleep on the couch (after a spout of energy from dancing around the living room floor). I don't remember anything but the first video. I remember dancing for what seemed like hours though! :)

Not Man 
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(11/27/99 9:02 pm)
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I don't remember when MTV premiered but I do remember what a cool video channel they were. You could sit there all day and see awesome videos one after another........now you are lucky if you see one a day :( They still play videos don't they?

C-YA

Rain Taylor 
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(11/28/99 12:18 am)
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I was living in England at the time, and we didn't even have cable TV let alone MTV! I can remember hearing about it from other kids who came to our school and told us all about the BITCHIN' cable TV channel that played all music, all the time...My how times change.

No, Not Man..MTV is no longer Music Television.
It is crap now, and (maybe do to my age) VH1 seems to play more Videos than MTV...

~Rain


"On the outskirts of nowhere,
On the ringroad to somewhere,
On the verge of indecision.
I'll always take the round about way."
-Marillion

"It's social. Demented and sad, but social."-John Bender (The Breakfast Club)

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Not Man 
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(11/28/99 6:30 pm)
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I too have found myself watching VH1 more than I ever have. I really enjoy Behind the Music and Where are they now?.

C-YA

Rain Taylor 
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(11/28/99 7:37 pm)
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Many years ago, I heard a joke, about how to know if you are getting old. One of the things listed was "When VH1 becomes "cool", you are getting old" Does this mean we are getting old, VH1 is getting cooler or MTV just plain SUCKS now?

EMPTY V!

is what I call it!


"On the outskirts of nowhere,
On the ringroad to somewhere,
On the verge of indecision.
I'll always take the round about way."
-Marillion

"It's social. Demented and sad, but social."-John Bender (The Breakfast Club)

21 of 69-Zoid Collective

Zel 
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(11/28/99 10:10 pm)
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Whats even more depressing is when your favorite songs (some of them hard rock) are played on 'soft rock stations' and referred to as oldies.
What I hate is these dj's and vj's today that don't have their band information straight. Thsi dumb chick fresh out of college was on the air last weekend. "And it looks like Van Halen is getting yet another lead singer ...first it was 'van halen' then it was Sammy Hagar... Screech um hello dumb chick it was DLRoth!!! This is the same dumb chick that thinks Free Falling was Tom Petty's debut album but it is sooooo insulting.
Canada didn't get a 24 hour video station until a year after mtv and it was considered a 'pay channel so I still didn't get it. So I had to live with Friday Night videos and staying with friends but thats all I used to watch when I got the chance - it sucked you in all those lovely images. : )

Skyklad 
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(11/29/99 8:16 am)
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I agree RT...Mtv is crap..but VH1 is damn good with their Behind The Music episodes! VH1 is much more interesting and oriented towards the "older" generation..whereas MTV caters to the gangsta wanna be's roaming the malls! LOL

Not Man 
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(11/29/99 6:44 pm)
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I am getting older (34) but MTV STILL SUCKS! :)

C-YA

Claziano
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(11/30/99 7:37 am)
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Empty V! hahaha If there was an MTV forum here, that's what I would call it.. hehehe Ahh, let's see.. I agree, Rain Taylor.. Oh, and about the girl from MTV. Yeah, what a nut. Van Halen. hehe Why bother? And Tom Petty. hehe Another one.. She's gotta get her facts straight. I bet MTV is run by all people who don't even know she made the mistakes... Well, I don't watch much TV but VH-1 is what I watch when I do and I am 28.. MTV is nothing anymore. And it IS aimed at the 'gangsta' wannabe's...

Sal Collaziano

Zel 
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(11/30/99 9:17 am)
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I have nothing against rappers or the people who listen to it but I definitely think rap played a huge part in making most of the 90s a really dark period in the music that was being pumped out.

Claziano
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(11/30/99 10:57 am)
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I agree. I even like some hip-hop but not a real lot. It helped change things to what they are now. Especially our biggest radio station Hot 97. It changed from dance to rap and everyone followed in its footsteps...

Sal Collaziano

Zel 
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(11/30/99 11:25 pm)
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My favorite radio station out of Toronto that I listened to religiously in the mornings went from top40 to NEWS! It was so sad. Tom Rivers did this amazing morning show, with skits and tunes that made it not so bad to get out of bed and go to school in minus 30C weather. : )

Claziano
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(12/1/99 8:21 am)
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I know how that feels.. When my ex and I first moved in together, there were these morning show people on our favorite radio station and they were really great. Then one day it was just gone. It actually takes alittle something out of your day...

Sal Collaziano

Skyklad 
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(12/1/99 11:51 am)
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response to Zel concerning rap...
I definitely agree with you there Zel...rap DID play a large part in the dark days of music. I don't have anything against it or the people who listen to it..I don't like it..and what I really don't like is when young white teenagers in suburbia attempt to be gangsta wanna bes. It is almost a mockery in a way of the black culture...AND people should be THEMSELVES..not something else. I don't know what the problem is with our world..many people are too afraid to be themselves.....

Zel 
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(12/1/99 3:59 pm)
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Skyklad I couldn't agree more. I was dating this guy in 92 and what turned me off more than anything was his copying of african-american gangsta talk. It was a huge turn off because he knew nothing of the culture from which all this music came from. I think music always reflects the sign of the times in what is going on within the global or national scheme and yes it was a dark period but some of the situations going on in areas of North America were and I imagine still are pretty brutal. It just really dampened the sound that I grew and loved in the 80s.
I had heard a person at one time suggest that the music from the 80s was in total denial of reality because our reality until 89 was so unsure. The cold war was at its peak, we witnessed terrorist bombings, and hijackings - Music was an escape. I always loved Alphavilles song Forever Young but the words now are really haunting as to the uncertainty of our future. and On that note.... I'm going to look for that MP3 lol.

Claziano
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(12/2/99 8:38 am)
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I agree with the both of you. There are serious problems within the white race right now.. Atleast in America. Black people have alot of pride in who they are. This is very much unlike white people. White people who like rock 'n roll, to me anyway, show the most pride in who they are. The dance community sometimes seems to admire the Latin community. I think the best dance music comes from Latin people (these are my opinions only) and I think the best R&B;/Hip Hop comes from the Black community. Each has their own specific groove. Rock 'n Roll belongs to the white community. I'm not exactly sure why so many white kids want to be black. I suppose they see how much pride they have and want to feel that too - but what kind of an answer is that? Maybe some people feel the need to act like black people in order to show they are not prejudice.. This is also the wrong approach... Life is odd...

Sal Collaziano

Zel 
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(12/2/99 10:14 am)
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cultural bifurcation I think is why. Regardless of race, ethnicity or culture all kids have problems and I think for many the cohesiveness of gang members and the brotherhood portrayed in movies and music is a little of what everykid is looking for. Instead of finding it their own way they look to merge into another culture. I could be wrong here but kids in the early 90s seemed to be having a huge identity crisis and so were the 20 somethings otherwise we never would have had grunge lol.

Claziano
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(12/2/99 11:53 am)
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Rock 'n Roll Monster! Roaarr!!!
I think there should just simply be a Rock 'n Roll monster (!!) that comes around and SMASHES everyone into smitherines and only stops when people agree to like Rock 'n Roll again! :p

Sal Collaziano

Zel 
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(12/2/99 1:30 pm)
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Re: Rock 'n Roll Monster! Roaarr!!!
LOL that goes right back to the muppets! remember that big hairy guy that would come and trash the band - lol
Yes definitely but then we'd have nothing to complain about either. We need the crappy music to show people how great eighties music IS. : )

mirdonamy 
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(12/2/99 2:16 pm)
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Re: Rock 'n Roll Monster! Roaarr!!!
I really enjoyed this conversation, and have kept out of it...and now I don't even have solid thoughts on the matter. I think we should move this section to a "Culture" section...but hey, what's begun has begun. Anyhow, culture is weird. A korean child grows up in texas with a hillbilly accent and has a rebel flag on her pick up, a black boy grows up in New York and dresses in jeans, dyes his hair blue, and wears glitter eye shaddow and listens to industrial/trance. I grew up in S.FL, had friends of all economic standings, knew whities that thought they were black. I couldn't stand them at the time, but I realized that they grew up in predominently black neighborhoods where all their friends spoke with black/gangsta lingo. They knew nothing but that, and their parents didn't care. It is not sad, it is just culture...mostly based on economy. I grew up low/middle class, and had a mom that cared how I pronounced things, and I went to private school the first few years of my life, where I learned to read. Just a different culture. Culture fascinates me. I love rock and roll, I love freestyle, I love rave/trance, and I love classic rock. I dressed like a glammer, like a hick, like madonna, and eventually...like myself. I think all these people are going to figure out who they are in time. It sometimes takes mimicing others to learn about yourself. Like a child mimics their parents until he/she forms an identity, style, and even speech pattern. Influences are everywhere, some wear them well...others become them one at a time so they are never consistant. I think at one time, everyone was this chameleon...changing with the wind...but that was our growing years, our middle school and late elementary school years. Some develope faster than others and grow into their identity quick. I have seen so many different people grow. I still live in the same city I was born it...and I am a people watcher. It fascinates me. None of you are wrong by the way...these are my opinions as you have yours. I respect everyones' opinions. I sometimes love life...a lot.

Claziano
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(12/3/99 11:11 am)
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Re: Rock 'n Roll Monster! Roaarr!!!
Well, that's tru, Zel.. Ooops, I just hit enter and now I have to edit this to add to that message. ahh Okay ,hehe. yes, Zel, that makes plenty of sense.. And Mirdonamy - your opinions are welcome as are everyones.. This probably should be moved to a culture section but I couldn't just take these messages and I'm not sure how to fit a culture section in this 80's site.. If you have any ideas, let me know.. The only problems I have with this whole RAP genre and how all these white kids are acting like they lived in the ghetto is the fact that they didn't. They lived with their white parents in their white neighborhoods and all spoke a certain way until a few years ago. Now, they all talk with a different accent and act out and do things that they here in music. The biggest influences in their lives, a few years ago, were Dr. Dre, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Easy E, and some others. Their music talked about shooting their enemies, selling drugs, and treating women like garbage (since their only bitches anyway, right?).. I've been watching these young guys (all my brothers friends) turn their lives into crap because they wanna be just like Dre and Dogg, etc.. My Brother got busted for selling Cocaine to a cop and a few of the others are under investigation for selling drugs to a young boy who died.. These are only a few examples..... I don't dislike any particular kind or person or culture. But I do lack some respect for the young kids who want to mimic the lives of rap stars who speak about 'slinging rocks' (selling cocaine) and 'slappin bitches'.

Sal Collaziano

Edited by Claziano at: 12/3/99 11:18:12 am
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