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Thomas Aaronson
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Jul-31-02, 06:24 AM (GMT)
 
"Where is the focus?"
 
   As a younger assistant scoutmaster with 4 years experience in a council JLT program, I am concerned about where the focus lies on leadership training.

Rod Smith has brought to light some important issues when it comes to the differences between youth and adult training. 13 and 14 year olds require much more fun and application of their skills to complete the learning process. To accomplish this in one week, this means less class or sitting time and more doing.

A lot of buzz surrounds the classic 11 skills of leadership. However, I personally believe these need far more attention and review for the younger audience. Counseling, for example, has been a very weak presentation. First, it lacks application during the week. Second, the syllabus for the skill itself may very well be confusing and even contradicting for youth. We state that the patrol "counselor" will be in the key position to help participants with problems and concerns, then immediately follow it up with the important understanding that they may not be the right person to counsel and should, in all cases, seek the assistance of a more experienced scout. Furthermore, the material significantly overlaps that from Evaluating, Communicating, and Needs and Characteristics.

Honestly, I believe the approach of perfecting an adult course, then modeling a youth program based on it is flawed. We're dealing with middle school/junior high students with little attention span for lecture style presentations. The leadership skills are a necessary cornerstone of any JLTC, but they each must include fun, application, and reflection, and such activity should dominate over classtime.


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Barry Runnels
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Aug-06-02, 07:53 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Where is the focus?"
In response to message #0
 
   >Honestly, I believe the approach of perfecting an adult
>course, then modeling a youth program based on it is flawed.
>We're dealing with middle school/junior high students with
>little attention span for lecture style presentations. The
>leadership skills are a necessary cornerstone of any JLTC,
>but they each must include fun, application, and reflection,
>and such activity should dominate over classtime.

Also, should we even be considering duplicating an adult training
program designed to teach skills for building men of character when the objective for JLT is teaching youth skills of leadership. While I admit that leadership skills are important for everyone, the focus of the adults in the Troop is to passively guide the scout in his leadership struggles. The role of the scout is to actively lead the Troop. Those are two different skill requirements that require two different training approaches.

Barry Runnels


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Jim Haynie
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Jul-31-03, 01:12 AM (GMT)
 
2. "RE: Where is the focus?"
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   I think some minor tweaking of the course will achieve great results. The current generation of kids are very different and so isn�t society from the last revision of JLTC. However, the skills of leadership are still very applicable, but how the message is delivered needs to be changed a little. Many Councils are not following the prescribed syllabus word for word. The course directors along with the youth leadership realize the changes in kids. Changes are made in many of the 11 skills by many courses to include more hands on activities and not all classroom work. Many Scouts are coming away from the JLT Courses saying it is the best experience they have had. I am seeing troops change as a direct result of their Junior Leaders being trained.

Here are some changes that former JLTC Scouts have made in their own troops�.
1) Scouts listen to me now and I listen to them.
2) I plan the meeting with the PLC rather than the adults.
3) We actually do some cooking in our troop now rather than cold cereal and cold cuts.
4) Our troop committee was so impressed by me that they paid me back money to go to JLTC and are now paying for several Scouts.

Thanks,
Jim Haynie,
NE Region JLT Steering Committee


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