October 28, 2004
The Backstabbin' Beantown Bastard Pisses On More Brave Soldiers' Graves
The Captain's Quarters takes off the gloves and takes the TaxItToYa Traitor to task for comparing THE LIBERATION OF 25 MILLION IRAQIS to the Bay of Pigs fiasco. It's a sad day, indeed, when just under 50% of the US voting population would vote for a treasonous gold-digger, who would dare compare the wonderful work of our US military in Iraq, freeing an entire nation from under the yoke of Sodamned Insane and his Ba'athist Butchers, to the treachery that was perpetrated on the brave Cuban ex-pats, who were hung out to dry by the first *spit* JFK *spit*. Rope. Tree. Justice. The only three things that Qerry deserves for his "service". F.E.T.E. Posted by BC at October 28, 2004 07:24 PM
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I agree with you totally. I do not believe just under 50% of voting Americans will vote Kerry however, in 2002 the republicans swept the entire nation, except in LA and CA, and we got GreyOut Davis out a few months later. Have faith in our fellow Americans. Witty We will prevail in the election. We have an Innate Bullshit detecter and I belive Kerry lost long ago. And Kerry's supposed to have brains? Yeah, that's real bright - let's remind the Cubans in South Florida exactly why they have traditionally voted Republican. Now he needs to go to a Jewish neighborhood in Miami and tell the crowd how concerned he is about poor Arafart's health. Posted by: Donna V. on October 28, 2004 07:46 PMOne thing is definitely CRYSTAL CLEAR. If this fuck-wit does get elected, it's the end for all that we hold dear as life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. American soverignty will become as oxymoronic as saying "President John F. Kerry", and trying not to drown in a pool of your own vomit at the same time. God help us all! Posted by: LC Corey on October 28, 2004 07:53 PMThe fact that there's a tiny possibility that that tumblefuck Kerry could get elected scares me. Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 28, 2004 08:11 PMThe fact that there's a tiny possibility that that tumblefuck Kerry could get elected scares me.It should N. O'Brain, but I don't think It would be as catastrophic as L.C. Corey thinks. Don't get me wrong, it will be worse than the Clinton years. Our nation will be weakened, and our enemies emboldened. Our second ammendment rights will be attacked, our taxes will likely go up; but... as long as we have control of the House and Senate, the damage can be mitigated. I feel that if the John-Boys get elected, we are likely to have to endure four years of domestic deadlock, with unprecedented bickering, and character assassination. All the while our international position will slowly erode. The big winners will be the Islamists, North Korea and the Peoples Republic of China. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 28, 2004 08:28 PMBrave-ass words from a guy who begs for money on the internet. [dipshit - Misha didn't write the post - GT] What does F.E.T.E. stand for? Posted by: Troll King on October 28, 2004 08:42 PMI wish those liberal bastards will tell me to my face that I failed my mission in Iraq. Hell I will pay to fly him and his pussy followers to me so he can do it! I put my life on the line with the hundreds of thousands of other soldiers, many who gave their lives, and I can't thank they enough for it, and for them to say that the 101st Airborne Division failed its mission is a slap in my face and to those brave few that gave their lives in defense of this great country. Posted by: LC Haggy on October 28, 2004 08:43 PMAm I the only one that thinks that DipShit Donahue should be locked up along with "I'm Jimmy-Peanut head, oh I mean farmer-Carter" and shipped to Gitmo? Posted by: LC Haggy on October 28, 2004 08:46 PMYawn, LLL 'n lovin' sheep. If you are going to troll, at least get your facts straight. Those are B.C.'s "brave words" not Misha's. Why are you posting here, anyway? Trying for your "15 minutes of lame"? Posted by: LC Bishop on October 28, 2004 08:53 PMLLL: STFU, shithead. LLL and shoving a pole up your ass. Get a grip Sphicnhter Boy, Misha did not beg, and he did not ask a dildo, like you for anything. So take your Bawahhhh, and save it for when your Boyfriend is rogering you for your internet cash flow. Poor LLL is just upset that he popped his inflatable girlfriend again and is now utterly lonely and sad. Posted by: Natasha G.L.O.R.&I.P.P.W. on October 28, 2004 09:07 PMPoor LLL is just upset that he popped his inflatable girlfriend again and is now utterly lonely and sad. He should have known his relationship with his inflatable girlfriend would be short lived. After all, a nickname like pin-dick should have been his first clue. Posted by: LC & IB Beaker on October 28, 2004 09:22 PMWhat does F.E.T.E. stand for?Check out the Imperial FAQ for the answer to that and for other nuggets of essential information.
Speaking of John Kerry, aka Botoxula, aka FrankenHeinz, Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling endorses George W. Bush. Posted by: Alan K. Henderson on October 28, 2004 10:28 PMI'm really new to this site, and Thank you Posted by: bettina on October 28, 2004 10:32 PMbettina, of course it is. (As long as it's "reasoned" and based on "factual & verifiable data" with vetted "links".) Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 28, 2004 10:38 PMbettina, you'd better wear a flame-resistant, bullet-proof suit of armor if you're going to post here. You'd also better have your I's dotted and T's crossed or you'll be hammered like a Klintoon intern on Roofies. ;) Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 28, 2004 10:48 PMBC: What do you think about the video of Bush giving the For the long term, if FFJ'EEFFIN'K gets elected, what are we going to face? Old Scrotumface has made it clear as day that if it were up to him, it would Klintoon redux. There are pleany of billyzipperpant's apologist friends working in the Donk Parade of Idoicy™ that we will get nothing mroe than an extension of the "Best" of the Kintoon years. So, we know WHO will be working with FuckFaceJohnFuckingKerry, but what will they want to accomplish? Here's my guess: 1- Increase taxes on anyone making 53,000 a year or more. I think the breaking point in this bracket is what... 50,000? Just to be safe I rounded up. He'll have to come up with a whole hell of a lot of taxes, if he expects taxes alone (as opposed to Bush banking on a growing economy) to pay for his programs. 2- Withdrawl from Iraq, and a chilling of relations with Israel, Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan. I think Kerry will want to tread lightly where he thinks the UN should have the lead. 3- Massive AWOL in the military, and/or NO ONE wanting to sign up under Kerry's watch. Maybe this is just my projection but when Klintoon took over, I was in, and could not wait to get out. I think Kerry would perhaps tip the scale. A child of the 60's Kintoon-draftdodger was one thing, an outright red-bellied-commie-colaberator is probably something that just.won't.be.tollerated I also feel that recruitment may evaporate. This MAY cause him to start that damn draft that he keeps saying GWB wants to do. 4- China, Iran, France, German, and every other socialst/commie fucktard will be making eyes at him. These people know who the other are, and if BOOSH is being controlled by the international cartell of Haliburton Execs, the Kerry will be controlled by the international cartel of Socialist/Communist Elietest scumfuchs. The difference you may ask? We KNOW commie/socialist kabal exists. Jury's still out on Haliburton. 5- An improvement in relations with Europe, and the buck becomming more "accepted". Face it, Europe hates GWB. They hate our products, they hate our money. Now, if one were to stop and consider that the WHOLE bloody point of the EU is to build a rival to American power, it would be no suprise that we have issues with a strong prez and a self-serving EU. A weak prez, or more to the point, a "French looking" prez might impress upon them that they can do business with us. So, do I expect that Kerry will "Restore" relations with the world (read: Europe), yes, but NOT for the reasons that HE thinks it'll be for. 6- Economic malaise. There is another depression brewing for a prez Kerry. Especialy if we get slammed hard by terrorists. Kerry won't be able to see past his LLL dogma and use policy that will work cuz (gasp!) the rich might get rich! Bush's plans after 9/11 helped make the economic down turn smaller and shorter than it could have been. 7- Riots. Now, this will be from the LLL side. It's starting now with the smashing of Republican offices all around the country. If the preasure is on from the anti-WTO fuckbag anarachists for billyzipperpants to play nicey-nicey with the world workers party, just wait till they get a dyed-in-the-tweed Bhastan Brhamin Ultra Liberal Prez. It will be there one and shining path chance to "Make some noise". Riots and terror are the only voice those bastards can raise however, so that's probably what they will do. 8- A reduction of US influence in the world. Libs want us to get out of the rest of the world, and feed our OWN homeless. They are socialists. They want America to just worry about America. They are Nationalists. As a nice Nationalists/Socialst, i expect Kerry to appeal to his own, and proudly reduce American influence for that of the UN (which will promptly drop the ball, stand stock still point at the ball, shreak their heads off, and take off in the opposite direction, jumping over the benches, and fall flat on their faces)People will die, the UN will debate, Kerry will debate, more people will die, and nothing will be done. People will stop looking to the US for international help (we'll be busy feeding our own hungry, thank you) and conditions about the world will degrade. The EU won't lift a finger. If they wouldn't lift a finger for Milosovich, why bother with a few million darkies, and sand niggras? 9- Kerry gets more face time than billyzipperpants ever did. The media (having elected him) will give him soft toungebaths, and blow little kissess at him. 10- Republicans MIGHT start to go on the offensive, but will probalby call it off to get more contributions to their campaigns. Posted by: uselesss on October 28, 2004 10:49 PMWhat do you think about the video of Bush giving the "finger" to the TV camera? Personally, I thought it was hilarious. It's what makes him so much more human and likable than Lurch--whatever you think of "the finger", you have to admit it shows his humanity and his humility. At least HE is still a REAL human being, while at the same time being the most powerful one. Bettina, you know as well as we all do that Hanoi John --and Hitlery Clinton--may have absolutely NO sense of humor or humility, but he has a foul mouth. What's the difference? Besides, Bush is a religious man, but not all religious people have the exact same "restrictions." I seriously question the sincerity in your concern about this. Do you REALLY think GOD frowns on a sense of humor? Maybe the people in your church should remember it's not up to them to judge what's "godly". And if you were REALLY concerned about who walks the walk, you would be for Bush. Kerry just panders for votes. Posted by: Beth on October 28, 2004 10:59 PMOh yeah, and that was WAY OFF TOPIC. Posted by: Beth on October 28, 2004 11:00 PMbettina, that was SERIOUSLY OFF TOPIC, but we'll give you a pass on this one. Soooooooooooo, does the Traitorous Bastard's church (aka The Roman Catholic Church) teach that it's OK to murder unborn children? How about partially-born children? Does it teach that "Communism is just as valid a form of government as Democrocacy"? Does it teach that it's OK to lie about your fellow service men and collaborate with the enemy during a time of war, in turn prolonging the war and the suffering of POW's? Does it teach that it's OK to divorce one rich woman and marry another rich woman, solely for their riches? Enquiring minds want to know? Thanks for the answers. God bless! Posted by: bettina on October 28, 2004 11:21 PMPretty much in the ballpark on all that, useless. The effects of which will be, as LC Corey predicts above, the death of Liberty and the Grand Experiment which was America. The evidence is abundant that Kerry has no concept of unintended consequences. He has been protected from those all of his life. Nutured as he is in the ideas so dear to the Left, of victimology and irresponsibility, of class warfare and division, of "situation ethics", nanny-statism and "internationalism", he is as ill prepared to deal with the results of his "policies" as he is to tell the truth...or even to know what truth is. He'll be sure to fuck it all up while remaining clueless, protesting his own innocence and blaming it all on Bush. He simply must not be allowed to take office, no matter what the rigged results of the election may be. And we must not tolerate the kinds of post election shenanigans the dipocrats are planning. It is our American tradition to tolerate the elction of those with whom we disagree. Gear up for the next election and try to reach some accommodation with the other side, for the good of the Nation. That has been or practice and our salvation. And we have been trying in naive good faith to accommodate the Left for most of a century, to our sorrow and peril. Most of the ills in our politics and in society generally can be ascribed to this alone. This time, there will be nothing left of that Nation in which this was the way of peaceful and civil governance. If Kerry "wins", it will be too late to save the Nation which showed the world the miracle of representative republican government. Our soveriegnty and our Constitution will be further demolished, our economy and military weakened, our enemies emboldened, our confidence and spirit disheartened and, most likey, we will suffer catastrophic physical attack on our own soil. The combination of disasters ensured by a Kerry "victory" amounts to a national crisis that we simply cannot allow. In four more years, it will be far too late. Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on October 28, 2004 11:32 PMB.C.-bettina asked a question about Bush, and you answered with a bunch of anti-Kerry stuff. SERIOUSLY OFF TOPIC from the off-topic question. She didn't say that she was a Catholic, either. So what's up with your reply to her? Posted by: Warren Terra on October 28, 2004 11:33 PMGood guess, Beth. I seriously question the sincerity in your concern about this.Posted by: LC Mikenchi on October 28, 2004 11:34 PM Bloody hell! I have to hide my email, I will get in trouble at work. Sorry! Posted by: bettina on October 28, 2004 11:36 PMi will have to call Gay Black Helicopter Pilot for emergency extraction from this AO, if Kerry wins. Posted by: LC Christopher on October 28, 2004 11:39 PMWarren@buttfucka.net, she asked a rather stupid, trivial, anti-Bush question about his church's teachings on the subject of insulting someone. She opened herself up to any number of questions about her presumed candidate. All of the questions posed to her were valid questions on serious subjects, whereas she came in here with the "bombshell" of W flipping someone off. Now, you are cordially invited to go have coital relations with yourself.
Lets say tomorrow it is proven that Bush had a secret meeting with Osama and he made deals with Osama that would benefit himself. This is not too farfetched if one listens to the mad rantings of Michael Moore and his ilk. Now lets change the names and make this story true. Kerry goes to Paris and meets with the Viet Cong and then returns to America to work with the American Gov't on getting our troops out of Viet Nam. He meets with the enemy. He takes the side of the enemy while our men are still over there serving their country. He is a traitor. Anyone who fails to see this, and fails to realize he will go to whatever extreme to live up to his anti-war stance he would turn us all over to the UN or worse for induction into the collective. Kerry is a danger, not just to himself, but to all of us. In Isreal's west bank the terror organization endorses Kerry. These are the same people who danced with joy when the towers fell. These are the same people who strap bombs to their children and send them off to kill other children. They have no soul. Witty Spats, would you please fix all those spelling errors in that post of mine above? I'm not seeing well just now, and there are too many to list here. PIMF!!! Thanks' Jon Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on October 29, 2004 12:04 AMIt's probably a good idea not to post a work email. The solution to this is getting an account at one of the public email services. Yahoo, G-mail or even the dreaded hotmail will serve. It's easy to communicate in chat rooms and it gives me a chance to select to whom I give my private email addy. It also serves to indicate genuineness. Posting a fake email address reduces your credibility to 0. If things get rough the public email account is easilly dumped or changed. In six years, I haven't had to do this. So far I haven't gotten any death threats or interesting offers. I guess I'll just have to try harder. Posted by: StinKerr on October 29, 2004 12:45 AM[Excuse me, Shitcliffe, but you're still banned. Buh-bye. -The Management] - I hope someday I get the chance to check Phil Donohue into a drug testing center...What is it with all these TV liberal evangelists that lack the ability to seperate their internal issues with their politics?.... - Note to Bettina....Think of it as the Presidents way of saying that the score on Nov. 2nd will be America 1 Liberals stupid..... Posted by: Hunter on October 29, 2004 01:39 AMFirst LLL: From a guy who wants a govt that will hand him everything without earning it, you sure are quick to criticize. I would have thought you would be the first to offer a hand. Your "liberal" beliefs only work when the money comes your way? Fuck you, Hypocrite. And um yea, just plain fuck you. Been a crappy day, I'm going to sleep. Posted by: LC Chance on October 29, 2004 02:18 AMBTW Bettinas a troll, look at the email address. sigh. Told you it had been a crappy day never mind I finally read down to LC Mikenchis post. I still don't think any church lady would use the term smegma for any reason other than a medical description, and then MAYBE. g'night Posted by: LC Chance on October 29, 2004 02:35 AMSpeak of Backstabbing... Where is the anger... http://www.rightviews.com/article.php?id=231 Posted by: OJ on October 29, 2004 02:37 AMYou are so full of hatred, it really is scary! Posted by: Damien on October 29, 2004 05:46 AMLets not forget! To "sensitive" people like Damien, any criticism or ridicule of Kerry is "hatred" while purile mudslinging and abuse of Bush is "enlightened discourse". Damien, observing the inherent hypocrisy of your statement, take your "sensitivity" and cram it up your ass. Posted by: Elephant Man on October 29, 2004 06:01 AMDamien, Just to reiterate my previous statement... LIFE: PARTIAL-BIRTH IS MURDER LIBERTY: Soverignty Gone. PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS: Ah, who needs money anyways! Albeit, we always expect the third when a donk gets the helm, this is big.... REALLY BIG. Posted by: LC Corey on October 29, 2004 06:40 AMHere's a link to a new political poitical "movie short". (Found the link at LGF and also posted by Michelle at A Small Victory. I have to give credit where credit's due.) You decide. *guffaw* Posted by: Elephant Man on October 29, 2004 07:09 AMThat's supposed to be "Here's a link to a political "movie short". Once again I say PIMF PIMF PIMF damn it!!!! Posted by: Elephant Man on October 29, 2004 07:17 AM*sigh* Perhaps "The Management" can help clean that up. All the exposure to moonbatranium rays are taking its toll on the typing skills.... Posted by: Elephant Man on October 29, 2004 07:21 AMLC Bishop and all who agreed with your post: Pardon the impression that I'm attacking you personally, but you are operating on a mindset that no longer applies. It was a completely different world in 1994, when we turned the congress over to the Gingrich led Republican revolution. You talk as though Kerry can't do very much damage in the face of a Republican led Senate and House. Here's why he will do massive damage: Most of the Republicans in the House and Senate have demonstrated that they have settled in and have mostly abandoned conservative principles. Look at the outrageous expansion of spending and regulation. Now that they have the power, job one is maintaining that power. Denny Hastert is a weak, don't-rock-the-boat Speaker. To say that conservatives lack any leadership in Congress is an understatement of epic proportions. For the first time in my life, countries around the globe have actually paid attention to who is being elected in other countries. This global war on Terror. It is one thing to find the scant 20% of Americans who might know who the Prime Minister of Great Britain is, but to know that Spain elected a new PM to appease terrorists, or that Australia spit in the eye of the terrorists by re-electing Howard, shows that we really are in the middle of World War Four. Most importantly, when leaders of ME Terrorist organizations will openly admit that their goal is to get Americans to vote for a man like John Kerry, that speaks volumes. It speaks volumes about who John Kerry is, and it speaks volumes about who George Bush is. If John Kerry is elected things will be so different. Contrast this with Bill Clinton's election. Bill stepped into office after Reagan had won the cold war (WWIII) and inherited the conditions that made for a long and enduring economic recovery and growth period. But I remember talking to members of the military under Clinton and I saw the wholesale degradation. Listing what I saw would take hundreds of pages. If John Kerry gets elected, expect the following to happen: 1. Terrorists and their sympathizers, i.e. most of the muslim world will dance in the streets in celebration. 2. Recruitment for the military will fall to catastrophic levels. 3. The best and brightest of the military will immediately look for the exit doors. 4. The coalition of nations that look to the US for leadership and support will cut and run. No disrespect here. I would do the same. If you knew that the head of state you needed to count on was willing to sell out his own country's sovereignty, you would be a fool to keep fighting. 5. Even more so than when Clinton was elected, the left will be emboldened to act like the thugs they are in their hearts and stick it to the rest of us. 6. The weak willed RINOs in Congress will not stand up as a bullwark, but rather will think of saving their own political skin, so when the MSM repeats loudly that Kerry has a "mandate", they will fold like a house of cards. 7. Get used to the phrase "Chief Justice Clinton." Doesn't matter which one. I could go on and on about guns, taxes, etc. But the bottom line is that we cannot make the mistake of thinking this election is anything like what has happened in the past. This election, if it goes to Kerry, could set the stage for the next civil war, because I personally refuse to be a subject of the UN or a leftist moonbat democracy. Wake the hell up! Spoken (well, typed) like a true patriot, CDR Will. Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 29, 2004 07:46 AM'Rope. Tree. Justice. The only three things that Qerry deserves for his "service".' Wouldn't it be funny if these idiotarians started getting visits from the secret service? enough to make a patriots head A-Splode. That alone is worth a Kerry election. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 08:47 AMasstus, "Rope. Tree. Justice." is (read slowly now, we know you have Comprehension Deficit Disorder™ [aka CDD™]) AN OPINION, not a "threat", you sniveling fuckwidget. Capital punishment is the normal method of dealing with traitors & turncoats. (At least it was, until the Simpering Socialists made such inroads into the Testicular Fortitude Storage Facilities™ around the US.) Fuckface al Qerryda is a known and proven traitor. Therefore, calls for his ultimate judgement and punishment are not "threats". They are "protected speech" under the 1st Amendment. (We know you Socialist Shitstains only want to use that little clause for your side, but that's the way these things work.) Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 29, 2004 09:49 AMactus, it's called "political expression", you know, the right that's protected in the Constitution? Oh, I forgot, reactionary leftists only believe in free speech for themselves. N. O'Brain Hmmm, B.C., great minds think alike! Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 29, 2004 10:16 AMI don't know much about its legality, under threatening speech law it certainly isn't. I don't know if there is a special category for presidential threats, thought. The secret service doesn't just visit illegal threats. Sure. Its an opinion. An opinion that kerry should be killed in an what has been for a long time an extra-judicial manner. Overall this is in the same category as the people who wonder where Oswald and Wilkes Booth are now. I totally support people saying these things. I just want to see their heads explode when the secret service starts knocking. Certainly makes a Kerry victory less of a lesser evil. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 10:16 AMCDR Will: I could only wish to be able to put into words and relay with outstanding clarity the points which you made in that post. Well done. Posted by: LC Corey on October 29, 2004 10:17 AMOoops sorry that was unclear. Under threatening speech law it certainly IS legal. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 10:17 AMDamn, what a pathetic collection of idiots. Your daily circlejerk will be so pointless after the election and the current piles of manure get swept out of the WH. Whatever will you sorry morons do with yourselves? Enjoy your last couple of days throwin' the crap around this site. Maybe you could all go to Crawford and help the Kennebunkport Kowboy cut brush on his photo-op ranch (no horses tho, don't want to scare the big brave kowboy). And a special ESAD to all the pretend "soldierboys" like LC Haggy. What an effen joke. You're no more military than the Chimp-in-Chief is. Keyboard commandos always have the biggest mouths but unfortunately no cojones to back them up. Posted by: veejay on October 29, 2004 10:21 AMPractice on Asstus! Commander Will, I agree completely. This election, if it goes to Kerry, could set the stage for the next civil war, because I personally refuse to be a subject of the UN or a leftist moonbat democracy. Absolutely. From my post up thread: Our soveriegnty and our Constitution will be further demolished, our economy and military weakened, our enemies emboldened, our confidence and spirit disheartened and, most likey, we will suffer catastrophic physical attack on our own soil.
' This election, if it goes to Kerry, could set the stage for the next civil war' It'll certainly set the stage for the righwing crybaby machine to go into full gear. Just think: Chief Justice Clinton. Even worse: there's two of them. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 10:36 AMveejay, come back and see us next Wednesday, you fuckweasel. BTW, show us YOUR discharge papers. (Not the sticky pages of your Wanker mags, you dolt. The DD form. You figure out which one it is, felchmonkey.) Actus, you suppurating anal canker, no one ever said "extra-judicial hanging". We want it to be in front of a military tribunal for all the world to see. Then we'll have the hanging from an truck-mounted redwood tree on the 50 yard line of the Super Bowl, for all the world to see. Now, go back to masturbating to pics of Mickey Mooron and Ed Assner rutting in each other's sweaty, feces-encrusted asscracks. Fuckhead. Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 29, 2004 10:39 AMKeyboard commandos always have the biggest mouths but unfortunately no cojones to back them up. 5330 Bent Tree Forest Dr,#712 That's where I am, chickenshit. Let's see what kind of cojones you have, wussy-boy. Collectively, all you assholes haven't got the IQ of a rotting tomato. However, you do have a considerable advantage in the "foul-mouth" catagory. That being the only advantage you have, I don't believe our side has a damn thing to worry about. Especially from all you Tin Soldiers. BTW, who's going to lead you in this "civil war" of yours? Commander Codpiece? Fat chance. He'll run just like he did on 9/11. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 10:52 AM'Actus, you suppurating anal canker, no one ever said "extra-judicial hanging". We want it to be in front of a military tribunal for all the world to see. ' No you said rope and tree, which is more recently associated with extra-judicial lynchings. To be really pedantic, a military tribunal would also be extra-judicial, at least in the sense that it wouldn't be under Article III. In fact I think the military is under Article II. Oh and spatula last time I invited you over to a party you didn't show? why not? we were all big and gay for you. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 10:52 AMAh yes. Dallas, Texas. The rectum of North America. And of course, you would be the chief hemorrhoid. And proud of it, no doubt. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 11:01 AMHere's a post over at Bad Example you should all read. Thanks to Baldilocks. Posted by: StinKerr on October 29, 2004 11:05 AMAh yes. Dallas, Texas. The rectum of North America. And of course, you would be the chief hemorrhoid. And proud of it, no doubt. Come say it to my face, limp-wrist. What's the matter, coward - won't that goat you're humping let you loose? Or could it be that keyboard commandos like you always have the biggest mouths but unfortunately no cojones to back them up? Truth hurts, doesn't it, chickenshit? Kinda sucks to have your own words thrown back at your skanky ass, doesn't it, fucknozzle? Oh and spatula last time I invited you over to a party you didn't show? why not? As I recall, you've been invited to my back yard at least a couple of times to have your ass whipped, but you were too comfortable sipping your latté in the bathhouse at GWU. Inquiring minds wanna know, asswipe. Ah yes. Dallas, Texas. The rectum of North America. Ah, you've never been to Boston? Posted by: StinKerr on October 29, 2004 11:09 AMGive it up pussy boy. No one "willingly" goes to Texas for any reason. Cowpies like you just dry up and blow away eventually. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 11:17 AMGive it up pussy boy. No one "willingly" goes to Texas for any reason. Cowpies like you just dry up and blow away eventually. Ah, so you do admit to being a needle-dicked coward. I didn't think you had the balls to back up your bullshit, pansy-ass - thanks for the confirmation. (chuckle) 'As I recall, you've been invited to my back yard at least a couple of times to have your ass whipped, but you were too comfortable sipping your latté in the bathhouse at GWU.' Thats exactly it. I was inviting you to join me at the big gay party. You can imagine how popular a real man is. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 11:28 AMLord Spatula. I knew that name sounded familiar. You got that name because you like to scrape out the local Porta-Potties for sandwich spread. The name fits you well. Good thing you're already used to that diet, as all of you lame ass slobs will be eating shit for quite a while after Tuesday. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 11:31 AMCommander Will, rest easy; nothing in your post comes remotely close to a personal attack. I should, however, clarify what I meant in the first post. When I said that it wasn't as catastrophic as LC Corey's statement: "it's the end for all that we hold dear as life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness." I read that statement as a prediction of the destruction of our Constitutional rights. In the response, I meant that Kerry's election wouldn't necessarily mean that we would need to issue another document starting "When in the course of human events,...". As far as the effect of Kerry's election on the WoT; I couldn't agree with you more. As I said earlier, the big winners would be the Islamists, N.K. and the P.R.C. It doesn't mean that they would achieve ascendency, but it sure as hell would give them a huge push in that direction. I also agree with you on the effect on our military. I served during the happy, Reagan years, but I certainly remember the horror stories of those who served under Carter, and later Clinton. Serving under Kerry would be far more demoralizing. Getting back to my point; the United States, with all it's flaws is the last, best, hope for a world plunging into Nanny Statism or worse. If, God forbid, we fail on November 2nd, it will be our duty to apply extreme pressure our reluctant/lazy/RINO congress-critters to protect our Constitutional Rights. If they fail to do so, it is our duty to recall them. If we fail at these tasks, then your vision seems likely to unfold, perhaps with the exception of the Clinton/Supreme court scenario. Dis-barred Billy C. (YO!) wants to be Sec. Gen. of the UN, and the ultrasonic senator from New York will only be satisfied with the Presidency. If, in the course of human events, it does become necessary for us to disolve the political bonds between ourselves and an unconstitutional nanny state; I will honor my oath and stand beside the constitutionalists. But I will do so in sorrow, because if it ever gets that far, we will have failed profoundly. Lord Spatula. I knew that name sounded familiar. You got that name because you like to scrape out the local Porta-Potties for sandwich spread This from someone whose diet begins and ends at his mommy's asshole? The name fits you well. Good thing you're already used to that diet, as all of you lame ass slobs will be eating shit for quite a while after Tuesday. And still too chickenshit to come out from behind that fucking you're giving your pet goat to take your ass-whipping like the girl you are. Po' widdle baby... (snicker) Whats the matter VJ, did you have a bad experience in Dallas? I realize you got beat-up pretty bad when you tried to, um, mount that long-horn steer, but hey, it ain't Texas' fault you can't tell the difference between a steer and your normal Holstien hieffer date. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 11:43 AMI think Vajina is just pissed off because his pecker's so small he could fuck a Cheerio without breaking it. Posted by: Deji Pachi on October 29, 2004 11:50 AM"Keyboard commandos always have the biggest mouths but unfortunately no cojones to back them up." Look dip-shit, I'd love to give you my locale, unfortunately for you, it'd mean having a 12-gauge rammed up your ass as the sentry at the gate decides there's no room for Goat-molesting hairy-palmed monkey-fuckers such as yourself to gain entry into this fine military installation that contributes to your ability to spew forth your meaningless comments on this fine blog; and that would rob me of the opportunity to help put you out of your donk-diluted misery in ways more entertaining. Posted by: LC Corey on October 29, 2004 11:54 AM"Pet Goat"? Pet Goat? Why does that sound familiar? Oh, right, Pretzel Boy. Gee, you'd think you'd be a bit reluctant to bring that up considering what a complete asshole your boy made of himself in that classroom. But then, no one ever proved the Chimp-in-Charge ever did anything right in the last four years. I mean, damn, we had one terrorist attack in this country in the last decade, and it happened on shitheads watch. Funny how none of you slobs can explain how this makes this country safer. As for DimSons claim that only he has the experience to safeguard the country, please tell me exactly where and when he got this wisdom. He sure can lie with the best of them but as far as creds go, he has no more credibility than you fools. Hell, the little twerp is no more a Texan than I am and has been an absolute failure in everthing he's ever done. Unfortunately his latest failure has gotten a shitload of people dead. All for the love of money and the illusion of power. And now it turns out that Saddam didn't turn over WMDs to the terrorists. We did!! Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 12:02 PM*sigh* There goes the Inchworm again. I pity you, Vajina. Not because of the whole tiny cock thing, but because you're so full of DUmbahit/MorOn nager and hatred (and now apparently talking points as well) that you'd actually vote for a worthless turd like Kerry to be the most powerful man in the world. It's sad, really. Posted by: Deji Pachi on October 29, 2004 12:08 PMnager=anger PIMF Posted by: Deji Pachi on October 29, 2004 12:09 PMNice to see our supposed military has nothing better to do at 11AM than play with his candy ass buddies on the Dementia Blog. Since when does a guard at a military gate carry a 12 gauge? You know, you're not very good at playing soldier. Maybe you should actually try being one or would that be too much of a challenge for you pussy-boy? Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 12:11 PM
So where are your military creds, chickenshit? Same place your pinhead-sized 'nads are, I s'pose? (chuckle) veejay, you spineless cockswallower, you'd better start looking for some crow recipes. After you're finished drinking Qerry's latest cum-infused anal spewings, you might wanna check out this. The 12 gauge shotgun is a manually operated (pump), repeating shotgun, with a seven-round tubular magazine, a modified choke barrel, ghost ring sights, and is equipped with a bayonet attachment, sling swivels and a standard length military stock with phenolic plastic buttplate. (Some models have wooden and/or folding stocks.) This special purpose individual weapon is used for guard duty, prisoner supervision, local security, riot control, and any situation which requires the use of armed personnel with inherent limited range and ammunition penetration. Ass, Meet Boot. Also, many military jobs aren't 9-5, quite like your mother's shift at the local crack house/brothel. Now, STFU or have your posts "creatively edited" and spread across the internet for all the world to ridicule even more. Last chance, colonspelunker.
Deji Pachi? WTF? What is it with you cretins? Isn't there one of you retarded bastards that can point to one positive thing your moronic little Prairie Monkey has done? You sure can trash Kerry (although all of it is indefensible bullshit) but when it comes to defending your poor excuse.....zilch, nada nothing. That's the reason the little twerp is going to get his butt kicked on Tuesday. Even his own demented supporters can't come up with one reason he should be in office. God damn, you are one sorry lot. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 12:29 PMSince when does a guard at a military gate carry a 12 gauge?The SPs at Wright-Patt. started to carry them (along with the usual M-16 and side arm)after 9/11/01. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 12:32 PM Guard duty does not designate an MP standing at an entrance to a military base. As a former member of the Military Police, albeit back in the time when Bogus Potus was shirking his military duty, gate guards carried a 1911 as a sidearm, period. Maybe in a warzone such as Iraq one would carry a 12 gauge but I don't believe Texas is a war zone. How about you clue me in to this "job" you have where you're off all day. As short of personel as the military is at present, I have a hard time believing you just laze around all day. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 12:48 PMJust how does a mouthful of bullshit taste anyway, VaJina? It must be eating you alive to be so filled with such sanctimonious scorn for the truth. You are a complete tool for the most disastrously power mad lie machine since Hitler. It must be wretched to be bound by hate and blindness to the seductive spectre of the utopian nightmare. I am not too proud to admit that I hate you and your kind. It turns my stomach to read or hear the twisted, warped, indoctrinated, rebel- without-a-clue utter bullshit that your posts here represent. To think that better men than you could ever hope to be have died for your right to do so makes me proud of them and disgusted with you. I would gladly beat you within one inch of death and leave you watching that last inch ooze away, as you ponder the errors of your assumptions. Anytime, puswad. Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on October 29, 2004 12:49 PM"Pet Goat"? Pet Goat? Why does that sound familiar? Oh, right, Pretzel Boy. Gee, you'd think you'd be a bit reluctant to bring that up considering what a complete asshole your boy made of himself in that classroom. Oh, you mean while your butt-buddy Qerry spent 45 MINUTES sitting there in Tom D'asshole's office with a deer-in-the-headlights look? But then, no one ever proved the Chimp-in-Charge ever did anything right in the last four years Recovered from the recession caused by your favorite butt-buddy Bill Clinton, thanks to his tax cuts Want some salt with that crow, fuckhead? I mean, damn, we had one terrorist attack in this country in the last decade, and it happened on shitheads watch Yeah, masterminded by your turban-headed Islamofuck honey-boy after that butt-buddy of yours had three chances to apprehend him and failed. Gawd™, it sucks to be you, doesn't it? Funny how none of you slobs can explain how this makes this country safer Funny how you're too yellow-assed to say that to my face, isn't it, wussy-boy? As for DimSons claim that only he has the experience to safeguard the country, please tell me exactly where and when he got this wisdom He sure didn't get it from a shitheaded pissweasel like you, now did he? He sure can lie with the best of them but as far as creds go, he has no more credibility than you fools You're one to talk about creds, pansy-ass. You still haven't answered my question: Where are your military creds, eh, asscrust? Hell, the little twerp is no more a Texan than I am and has been an absolute failure in everthing he's ever done Yeah, tell that to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, fuckface. Afghanistan just had free elections thanks to Bush; Iraq has them scheduled. Look stupid much, tumblefuck? (snicker) Unfortunately his latest failure has gotten a shitload of people dead. All for the love of money and the illusion of power You got proof of that, or are you pulling this out of your skanky ass like everything else? And now it turns out that Saddam didn't turn over WMDs to the terrorists. We did!! Oh, I thought you dickheads said that there weren't any WMDs over there. You might wanna quit while you're behind, dickweed. (guffaw) If "Victor Juliet", above, ever served (which I rather doubt) he/she/it was probably drafted during the Viet Nam era. I wonder if he/she/it got an honorable discharge? I wonder if he/she/it committed "acts reminiscent of Jenjis Khan"? LC Haggy, LC Corey, and all the other current and ex-military LCs, this "lowly contractor scum" gives fervent THANKS to you for your service! Posted by: LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. on October 29, 2004 01:21 PMLord Spatula I, K&T: Spat stop being such a tease, this testosterone is too much for me to take if you're not going to show up and join the party. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 01:26 PM"I mean, damn, we had one terrorist attack in this country in the last decade, and it happened on shitheads watch." Not only that, but the decade was only nine months old! At least Clinton waited two whole years before he allowed terrorists to attack the WTC in 1993, and allowed the USS Cole to be attacked near the end of his term so as not to interfere with his live sex show in the Oval Office. Posted by: Rob on October 29, 2004 01:26 PMPosted by B.C. How about 100,000 Iraqi's? Fuckin dim wits. Posted by: Dogfo nam on October 29, 2004 01:27 PMThanks for the great words Corey and LC Bishop. I am somewhat (but only somewhat) dismayed by the troll-shitting here lately. I only wade through the stuff to see the better than average comebacks that reveal who actually knows about the military, versus those who think they do. It's pretty comical to read trolls asking questions like, "since when does the military use shotguns?" Freakin' moron. Even the LLL movie producers and directors were smart enough to show autoloading and pump shotguns in their contemptible movies about the Vietnam war. I'm waiting for some other great questions. Oh, BTW, let me digress here; I'm one of the few people who ridicule that stupid, assinine phrase, "There's no such thing as a stupid question." Oh hell yes, there are very stupid questions. I should compile a book of stupid questions. Let's just look at a few, shall we? "Why do you need a gun?" "Why should I care who the Senator is?" "Did you register that gun?" "Where is the safety on this Glock?" "Do you have a radiator hose for a 1963 Volkswagon Beetle?" "How do you plan to pay for those tax cuts?" I've been in an elevator in the basement of a parking garage and when the doors opened, the lady actually asked, "Going up?" There are plenty of stupid questions. Posted by: CDR Will on October 29, 2004 01:28 PMIf he's at GWU, he's more in my neck of the woods. I think the closest LC should get the opportunity to kick his ass so that he doesn't have to travel. Wouldn't want him to be put out now, would we? I've got about 40 miles (and several DD214s). Posted by: sleepygrumpydoc on October 29, 2004 01:35 PMLordSpatula: 5330 Bent Tree Forest Dr,#712 Accomodation Unlimited? Some sort of temporary hotel quarters? You've got be fucking kidding me. I would have sworn it was your mother's basement. And all of this violence and personal invective. Seems to me that you might be, um, compensating for something? You certainly seem to have an obsession with needle dicks. CDR Will "This election, if it goes to Kerry, could set the stage for the next civil war, because I personally refuse to be a subject of the UN or a leftist moonbat democracy." I guess that's what they mean by "An Army of One". So much for believing in the Constitution and democracy. We've lived with your jackass President for four years and he wasn't even properly elected. Show a little respect for America. You can leave your citizenship at the door when you emigrate to Saudi Arabia or somewhere else where there are no leftists and no UN to bother you. Oh, and no alcohol either. Then you can blame the D.T.s for your hallucinations. LCJon: "I would gladly beat you within one inch of death and leave you watching that last inch ooze away, as you ponder the errors of your assumptions." Welcome to Gitmo or Abu Gharaib, bitch. You don't think Cheney would shoot you in the head and throw your sorry ass in a ditch if it meant an extra five votes in Florida? You are a complete tool for the most disastrously power mad lie machine since Hitler. It must be wretched to be bound by hate and blindness to the seductive spectre of the utopian nightmare blah fucking blah. And to all of you fucks: the National Archives holds the records of U.S. Military investigations of Vietnam soliders accused of crimes. To wit: On June 23, 1967, members of the 25th Infantry Division killed two enemy soldiers in combat in Binh Duong province. An army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) probe disclosed that "Staff Sergeant H. then decapitated the bodies with an axe." H. was court-martialed and found guilty of conduct to the prejudice of good order and discipline. His grade was reduced, but he served no prison time. A CID investigation disclosed that during late February or early March 1968 near Thanh Duc, South Vietnam, First Lieutenant L. ordered soldier K. to shoot an unidentified Vietnamese civilian. "K. shot the Vietnamese civilian, leaving him with wounds in the chest and stomach. Soldier B., acting on orders from L., returned to the scene and killed the Vietnamese civilian, and an unidentified medic severed the Vietnamese civilian's left arm." No punishment was meted out because none of the "identified perpetrators" was found to be on active duty at the time of the June 1971 investigation. On August 12, 1967, Specialist S., a military intelligence interrogator, "raped . . . a 13-year-old . . . female" in an interrogation hut in a P.O.W. compound. He was convicted of assault and indecent acts with a child. He served seven months and 16 days for his crimes. On August 9, 1968, a seven-man patrol led by First Lieutenant S. entered Dien Tien hamlet. "Shortly thereafter, Private First Class W. was heard to shout to an unidentified person to halt. W. fired his M-16 several times, and the victim was killed. W. then dragged the body to [the lieutenant's] location. . . . Staff Sergeant B. told W. to bring back an ear or finger if he wanted to prove himself a man. W. later went back to the body and removed both ears and a finger." W. was charged with assault and conduct to the prejudice of good order and discipline; he was court-martialed and convicted, but he served no prison time. B. was found guilty of assault and was fined $50 a month for three months. S. was discharged from the army before action could be taken against him. So what the fuck do you have to say about this? This shit actually happened and no amount of calling Kerry a traitor for testifying as to what other soldiers said takes that away. Military people aren't automatically saints and the things they do in America's name, good and bad, reflect on all of us. To all of you soldiers, let me put it this way: if you knew someone in your platoon had raped a 13 year old, what would you do? Have a nice day.
sleepygrumpydoc: You've got to show more manliness before you get invited to the party. Tell me what you kinds of games you'd like to play in our big gay bathhouse? Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 01:41 PMIsn't there one of you retarded bastards that can point to one positive thing your moronic little Prairie Monkey has done? Well he has helped to show what an unhinged little fuckwad you are. Got anything constructive to add or are you just here to show us how much you like having Mickey Moron control your thinking for you? Posted by: LC Defense Guy on October 29, 2004 01:50 PMif you knew someone in your platoon had raped a 13 year old, what would you do? Shoot the bastard in the face most likely. What would you do? Forget it, we already know that you and your liberal ilk would hold a committe hearing to try to determine where we failed the man so badly that he felt he needed to rape a 13 year old girl. The conclusion would be that there can be no conclusion, and you would pat him on the back and tell him that society loves him and there is no need for him to be raping anymore. Posted by: LC Defense Guy on October 29, 2004 01:55 PMAnd you people wonder why the rest of the world finds the US scary? Political discussion in your one-time democracy has become vulgar, unintelligent name-calling. Grow up, for God's sake. Posted by: Michael Cross on October 29, 2004 01:57 PM You know Spatula, I actually gave you too much credit. You haven't got nearly half the smarts to be a fucking moron. WMDs as you fools described them... Biologic, chemical nuclear? Not a one. Posted by: VeeJay on October 29, 2004 02:00 PM My, aren't we presumptuous? The military took its action which is exactly what they should have done, although seven months and sixteen days seems like a pretty light sentence to this "liberal". But apparently you believe that a) mudering a fellow soldier is appropriate and b) that no one should ever talk about the crime here in the U.S. because any mention that a soldier raped a 13 year old would be "treasonous". Here is my point LC Defense Guy: the things Kerry described in his testimony actually happened. So which side of the fence do you fall on: covering up crimes or telling the truth? I fail how to see that testifying as to what actually happened is treasonous, if you yourself wouldn't serve with someone who committed such a crime. Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 02:05 PMGoing back up a few posts (and ignoring the raving, foam-flecked, tinfoilhatted idiots encountered on the way), I first became aware of guards carrying shotguns at military bases when I went to my son's graduation at Parris Island last summer. Right there at the front gate, they had three (count 'em, three!) armed guards, two carrying sidearms and M-16s, one carrying what was later identified for me as a combat shotgun in addition to an M-16 and a sidearm. Upon reflection, I figured out for myself that a shotgun would be a damned good way to stop a crowd from storming the gate. Like I heard in a western once, you may not get all of them, but you'll get enough of them to slow the rest of 'em down. And to all the veterans who frequent this site, I want to tell you all, Thank You from the bottom of my heart for protecting the freedoms we all hold so dear. And to all the Marines who post here, Semper Fi! (My son's a Marine, so I can say that, right?) Posted by: LC Steve, KotE on October 29, 2004 02:06 PMAnd you people wonder why the rest of the world finds the US scary? Political discussion in your one-time democracy has become vulgar, unintelligent name-calling. Grow up, for God's sake. I take it that it would be beyond your ability to just go somewhere where the level of discourse is to your liking. I hear spain is lovely for those with no balls. Posted by: LC Defense Guy on October 29, 2004 02:09 PMHere is my point LC Defense Guy: the things Kerry described in his testimony actually happened. So which side of the fence do you fall on: covering up crimes or telling the truth? First off, I find it unfortunate that while we are in the middle of a conflict (2 even) that is occuring RIGHT NOW, we seem unable or unwilling to get past a war that happened over 30 years ago. In many ways this is a disservice to those currently in harms way. The vets have every right to be mad at Kerry, but we are focused on something that is not helping our current situation. This is Kerry's fault for focusing so much attention on his 'service' at the beginning of his campaign. Second, I already said I wouldn't put up with it. I can tell you that there is no way in hell I would make a broad condemnation of every last troop based largely on stuff I didn't even witness. Would you? Posted by: LC Defense Guy on October 29, 2004 02:14 PMCharles Foster Kane Ya know what? There have been atrocities committed during every war since the beginning of human civilization. Do I, or any of my comrades here condone it? Oooooohhh, wait for it .. . Duhhhhh, yeah! You are shocked and horrified, I'm sure! Oh, my G-d, the humanity! Now, if you've gotten over your superflous shock and horror and are willing to think logically about the real world, I'll explain. There was a time in this world when the idea of inventing a submarine was considered extremely barbaric. Never mind that at the same time, firing grapeshot at close range on another ship at close range would maim many men and condemn them to an excruciatingly long drawn out death. But forget about all that. Today we must deal with the question of why some people want to kill each other, and we need to deal with the concept of deterring terrorists from trying to kill innocent people. Rumor has it that during WWI, Blackjack Pershing was faced with islamist terrorsist attacks on his troops. His response was to find and capture the leaders of the terrorists and not only execute them, but to wrap them in swine skins and send the evidence to the rest of the area. The terrorist attacks stopped immediately. Now, there is plenty of evidence that this is a true story, but even if it were not, I only care that it would actually work today. I have not a single qualm about finding every terrorist leader we can get our hands on and butchering them only to the point that they can still be recognized and wrapping them in pig carcasses and dropping them off at the steps of the local mosques. It would be one thing if we had set out to subjugate the muslim world an ocean away. All we, as a nation of Americans, wanted was to engage in free trade and to be left alone. They chose to fly airliners into our buildings. They chose to attack the USS Cole. They chose to attempt toppling the World Trace Center in 1993. They choose to attack our troops. They choose to attack Spain to influence their elections. They choose to try to freighten America into voting for Kerry under threat of more bloodshed. If I ever find out who you are, VEEJAY, I will terminate your sorry existence with extreme prejudice, and with all the emotion of stomping on a cockroach. Oh yes, just so you can't pull that stupid crap about being a coward: 198 Stoker Road, Dallas, Georgia 30132. And yes, Dallas, Georgia actually was founded before Dallas, Texas. So, bring it on you contemptable little piece of cat-squeeze. Posted by: CDR Will on October 29, 2004 02:15 PMCharles, no one is claiming that crimes did not occur during the Viet Nam war; the contention is that war crimes were not committed as a mater of course and U.S. policy. Nor is anyone calling Kerry a traitor for his 1971 Senate testimony; that was perjury. The treason charge stems from the fact that while in the Naval reserve, Kerry met three times with representatives of North Viet Nam. Oh yes in answer to your question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_WarIf I couldn't stop it, and my CO was unresponsive, report the incident to the Chaplain at the first opportunity. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 02:19 PM Cdr. Will, I like the way you think. If I'm ever in Dallas, GA, I'm gonna look you up and buy you a beer or twelve. Posted by: LC Steve, KotE on October 29, 2004 02:20 PMer, in response to your question: If you knew someone in your platoon had raped a 13 year old, what would you do?Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 02:22 PM Welcome to Gitmo or Abu Gharaib, bitch Say it to may face pusbag. A little ass whipping between the two of us hardly equates to Abu Graib or Gitmo, you dunb fuck! No one is being beaten there. Not to death anyway. You don't think Cheney would shoot you in the head and throw your sorry ass in a ditch if it meant an extra five votes in Florida? Rave on till they come with the jacket, the happy juice and the keys to the rubber room you prattling paranoac and dithering dipshit. And thanks for quoting me. Since you liked it so much, here it comes agin: You are a complete tool for the most disastrously power mad lie machine since Hitler. It must be wretched to be bound by hate and blindness to the seductive spectre of the utopian nightmare. Yes, you are. Glad to see some of this is getting through to you. Try to understand the difference dimbulb. It is not we who are interested in enforcing some (unattainable) socialist utopia, through the destruction of the Constitution and the use of whatever means necessary. That's your side's game and we are not going to play. Civil war? I hope not because it would aide our foreign enemies, but I won't shirk my duty to keep leftist puppet masters and their tools and running dogs (that would be you, boilsucker) from destroying Liberty and finishing their shredding of the Constitution. "All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic..." Again, that would be you, you miserable misanthrope, since you seriously fail to note what the fuck is so terribly wrong with KerryCo. Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on October 29, 2004 02:31 PMLC Bishop: I've never understood this charge. What negotiating power did he have? like, practically. Why would the NV negotiatiate with someone who could do nothing? Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 02:32 PMLC Defense Guy: Let's see....I think Kerry's emphasis on his "service" is a direct response to the criticisms of it. And you and I are in agreement that it serves no useful purpose or enables us to understand how Kerry might act today, much as Bush's avoidance of the bulk of his service really doesn't do much to inform us about how he makes decisions, but how would you respond if people donated millions of dollars to run television ads questioning your service? I'm more than willing to move on from Vietnam, but the Swift Boat Veterans seem unable to do this. Have you read Kerry's testimony? No, really, have you read it? He didn't make a broad comdemnation of every last troop. He reported that war crimes were taking place, that officers knew of them, and outlined them based on testimony of those who had been in Vietnam. Pretty simple really and done with no accusation that every troop in Vietnam was doing this, no broad statements that all American soldiers were guilty. Again, it comes down to this: Does speaking the truth constitute a betrayal of our troops whether in Vietnam or Iraq? I don't think so and would have testified to the same things. And to bring it to the present, what would have done faced with the situation in Abu Ghraib? I haven't heard any liberals claim that every soldier in Iraq is guilty of what went on there. The administration pinned all of this on a few "bad apple" soldiers. Do you think that is reasonable? What was the responsibliity of the observing but non-participating military personnel there? Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 02:34 PMAccomodation Unlimited? Some sort of temporary hotel quarters? Ahhh, here comes Charla Fuckface Kandy-Kane, who must be an "Arkansas cousin" (snicker) of Johnita Shithead Fuckface (John Stuart Farley). It's called a residence, dumb-ass. Granted, it's not the one-room shack you seem to prefer with the rest of your in-bred family, but it's comfortable enough. You've got be fucking kidding me. I would have sworn it was your mother's basement. And all of this violence and personal invective. Seems to me that you might be, um, compensating for something? You certainly seem to have an obsession with needle dicks. Why not just come ask me that to my face, chickenshit? That's all any of you assholes have ever had to do to shut me up. Funny how none of you have ever had the 'nads to actually show up... I guess that's what they mean by "An Army of One". Whatcha wanna bet that he has help, eh, pansy-ass? Oh, that's right - you won't be around to find out, because you don't have the balls to take even one of us on. So much for believing in the Constitution and democracy. How would you know, dumb fuck? You and your butt-buddies in the Demoscummic Party want to shred that document on a regular basis. We've lived with your jackass President for four years and he wasn't even properly elected Prove it, asswipe. Put up or shut up. Show a little respect for America. You can leave your citizenship at the door when you emigrate to Saudi Arabia or somewhere else where there are no leftists and no UN to bother you. How about we kick your skanky ass all the way to Cuba? That way you can live in the workers' paradise with your homie Castro. Now go back to playing with your Cabbage Patch doll, assbiscuit. The adults are talking here. VileJackoff quoth'd: Afghani elections? Just as credible as Bush being put in the WH by the Supremes. You mean their decision to actually uphold the election laws AS WRITTEN BEFORE THE ELECTION? That'd be pretty credible to any non-MoonBat. You might wanna go ask those 10,000,000 or so Afghanis who voted recently how they feel about your dissing them and their CHOICE for leadership. (As opposed to their "choice" of having the Taliban/AQ rule their country.) We'd suggest you take out some life insurance before going over there and insulting them, though. WMDs as you fools described them... Biologic, chemical nuclear? Not a one. What was the purpose of the Iraq invasion again? To insure that dangerous weapons and nuclear equipment and materials, all of which were in known, secure and monitored locations, would not be stolen and dispersed to god knows who? Which one is it gonna be, fuckwit? I'll address the rest of your moronic, Mickey Mooron-inspired drivel later. If, that is, someone hasn't already bludgeoned you into a bloody pulp with you own idiocy before I get back. Keep drinking the KoolAid until then. Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 29, 2004 02:37 PMhahaha. this is the funniest shit i have seen. who writes this drivel? what a terrible board. hahahahaha. laughable. (let me predict a response: "gee you fuckterd asswipe, go back and bang your butt buddy dems and leave us with our (painfully stupid) clever names!!). Posted by: oh mannn on October 29, 2004 02:43 PMone more thing: i am shocked that many posters on here are from the south! i NEVER would have guessed! evolve for another 100 years or so and then join the conversation fuckos. Posted by: oh mannn on October 29, 2004 02:46 PM'i am shocked that many posters on here are from the south! i NEVER would have guessed!' I recommend that next time they secede from the union we let them go instead of kicking their asses. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 02:48 PMI've never understood this charge. What negotiating power did he have? like, practically. Why would the NV negotiatiate with someone who could do nothing? Actually, actus, as an executive member of the VVAW, while Kerry may not have had much power, he certainly had plenty of influence. Enough that his testimony was requested by the Senate. Don't forget, he was a national figure at the time because of his decorations, Kennedy family connections and stance on the war. He could provide Madame Binh with a finger on the pulse of the anti-war movement, lend credence to her position with his tacit endorsement (form the act of meeting her, which he reported to the Senate). He could definitely supply aid if not comfort. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 02:48 PMLC Jon, Imperial Hunter: "Yes, you are. Glad to see some of this is getting through to you. Try to understand the difference dimbulb. It is not we who are interested in enforcing some (unattainable) socialist utopia, through the destruction of the Constitution and the use of whatever means necessary. That's your side's game and we are not going to play." What the fuck are you talking about? Socialist utopia? Destruction of the Constitution? You honestly believe that's what liberals are trying to do? And I'm glad to see that you're happy to make broad such accusations. "I would gladly beat you within one inch of death and leave you watching that last inch ooze away, as you ponder the errors of your assumptions." Merely pointing out that your attitude leads to precisely the kind of things that happened in Abu Ghraib. You sound like a steroid freak who just discovered the John Birch Society. Doesn't help your argument much. And you know what, I would say it to your face. However, given your statement and the lack of any information on a sudden rise in assault cases in your neighborhood, I will chalk up your statement to "idle threat" or, if you will, "Terror Level: Yellow bellied" "Rave on till they come with the jacket, the happy juice and the keys to the rubber room you prattling paranoac and dithering dipshit." What, I can't engage in a little hyperbole? Sheesh, I thought that was the name of the game here. Did I ever say Kerry was perfect? No. Did I say Bush is evil incarnate? No. Do I reduce the world to people who I'd like to give beatdowns to while yelling traitor at them for their political beliefs? No, because it appears that job is filled. Glad to see I'm a domestic enemy because I would exercise my right to vote. Gives me a warm happy feeling really. For the others: The Kerry perjury charge just doesn't stick. We don't know enough about Paris and North Vietnam to call it treason from my perspective. Maybe yes, maybe no. Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 02:57 PM Charles, why the obsession with Abu Ghraib? Are you still looking at those pictures and playing yankee-my-wankee? Yuck. Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 29, 2004 03:01 PM"Now go back to playing with your Cabbage Patch doll, assbiscuit. The adults are talking here". Lord Spat---you are a fuckin commedian. Posted by: Nam/man on October 29, 2004 03:14 PMLord Spatula I, K&T "Why not just come ask me that to my face, chickenshit? That's all any of you assholes have ever had to do to shut me up. Funny how none of you have ever had the 'nads to actually show up." We have lives Lord Spatula. We can't just jump on a plane because you might happen to be home. Our not showing up at your door has nothing to do with testicles. And honestly, what would you do if I showed up on your doorstep? No, really, what would you do? Punch me? Open that can of whup ass you've been saving? Shove a shotgun in my face? Is everything about your manhood? And besides, even if someone did show up I doubt you would shut up. So let's not make promises. "How would you know, dumb fuck? You and your butt-buddies in the Demoscummic Party want to shred that document on a regular basis." Interesting. Good point. Hadn't thought of that. But wouldn't we just need to shred it once, instead of on a regular basis? "How about we kick your skanky ass all the way to Cuba? That way you can live in the workers' paradise with your homie Castro. Now go back to playing with your Cabbage Patch doll, assbiscuit. The adults are talking here." Hey, I'm not the one hoping for a Civil War just because an election doesn't happen to go the way I want it to. I'm merely pointing out that you have options if the burden of being an American becomes to great for you. I accepted Bush's election without resorting to violence in the streets. You can do the same if Kerry wins. If you want to believe the American way of life as we know it will end that's fine. But you know, the GOP still controls the Senate and the House so I doubt very many of your worst fears will be realized. What's Kerry going to do? Declare martial law and round up Congress and ship them offshore? Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 03:15 PMLC Bishop: Which is different than negotiating a treaty. I can see the reason why everyone involved would want to know the positions of the various players, whether they would or would not support certain things. But thats different than negotiating a treaty. Thats what had me confused. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 03:20 PMN. O'Brain, IMfUI Not particularly obsessed with Abu Ghraib. Just happens to be the most visible example of troops behaving badly. Did the media reporting of what happened there mean that troops were being betrayed? I haven't heard that argument made, nor do I expect to hear it. Odd that you would make a sexual connection to the pictures. nam/man "Now go back to playing with your Cabbage Patch doll, assbiscuit. The adults are talking here". You honestly believe that is funny? You certainly have low expectations. Huh huh...he said "assbiscuit". Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 03:24 PM Cdr Will. What a pompous sack of shit. Commander of what? The mess hall. The latrine? 'i am shocked that many posters on here are from the south! i NEVER would have guessed!' Lemme see here, in NC alone we have Camp Lejeune, Cherry Point Air Station, Fort Bragg, Seymour Johnson AFB . . . IF we secede again, actass, I don't really see what the hell y'all could do to stop us. Or, as is more likely, if the LLL tries any of their shit down hear, they'll probably get their asses handed to them on a platter. Posted by: LC Steve, KotE on October 29, 2004 03:34 PMYou know Spatula, I actually gave you too much credit. You haven't got nearly half the smarts to be a fucking moron. WMDs as you fools described them... Biologic, chemical nuclear? Not a one. Not a one, huh? How many times have you had your ass handed to you here now? Six, seven? (chuckle) No one has died in Iraq? What fucking planet are you on? Oh, so you're crying over a shitload of turbaned tumblefucks who want American blood to run in the streets? Why am I not surprised a coward like you would feel that way? Afghani elections? Just as credible as Bush being put in the WH by the Supremes. Prove Bush ever trailed in Florida, fuckhead. Put up or shut up. And of course the Iraqis just love us to death. That's why they're trying their best to kill us every day. Or hadn't you kept up with the news? Certainly those Islamofucks who think like you do. Then again, they're cowards like you anyway, so... Of course you can't say what gives Chimpy the background to defend the country because it doesn't exist It's called being the Commander-in-Chief of the US armed forces. Shame you don't have the brains to blow your snotty nose, else you'd have figured that out by now. As far as the 3 chances scenario, Clinton tried to implement the strikes but he was overruled each and every time by your jackasses Prove it, asswipe. Let's see the links. On the other hand, Shrub had 3 chances to get Zarqawi and didn't because "the administration feared destroying the terrorist camp in Iraq could undercut its case for the war against Saddam". Again, prove it, fuckface. Let's see the links. What terrorist gov't in Iraq? What threat to the US? Gawd™, are you so stupid that everything has to be explained to you, simp? Go back and read the news, dumbass. That'll serve you better than trying to constantly buttfuck Molly Ivins. Explain how healthcare is more affordable and accessable. I can't wait to see this. I posted the links, dumbshit. If you're too shit-for-brains to click on it, that's not my problem. In case you hadn't heard, the recession started on Bushs watch In case you hadn't heard, fool, that particular meme has been debunked several times. The recession started during the last days of Das Klintonreich, moron. The fact that it sticks in your craw really ain't my problem. And while we're on the subject of money....as of 9-30-04 the national debt stood at $7,379,052,696,330.00 Yeah...most of it run up by Demoscum-controlled Congresses. Gawd™, you can't even win there, either. (chortle) In 2000, candidate Bush promised to protect the Social Security surplus. As president, he spent all of it. Yeah, those wars to keep us from dying en masse do tend to cost a little bit. Ass. The Bush administration granted the 9/11 commission $3 million to investigate The Sept. 11 attacks and $50 millionto the commission that investigated the Columbia space shuttle crash Given that that excuse-for-a-commission contained a bimbo whose own directive prevented the FBI & CIA from sharing information that might have helped prevent 9/11 - I'd say that yeah...we definitely wasted $3 million. The Bush administration has spent $7 billion this year and plans to spend $10 billion next year for a missle defense system that has never worked in a test that wasn't rigged One more time - prove it. Let's see the link. Before 9/11, Ashcroft proposed slashing counterterrorism funding by 23% Yeah, let's see the link for that, too. You're going to be a pretty busy boy the next few days. That is, if you get to hang around here. Speaking of Ashcroft....since 9/11 ashcroft has detained 5,000 foreign nationals in anti terrorism sweeps. None have been convicted of an anti terrorist crime. Ooops. Forgot one. A 14 year old boy who set fire to a boathouse which contained an engine belonging to Poppy Bush was tried as a "terrorist" on Bushs orders (Poppy again). He was convicted and sent to a "Federal" prison despite the fact that his age mandated a juvenile detention facility. Yep, ya gotta love them Bushies. So compassionate. So Christian. Maybe he shouldn't have gone around playing with matches, fuckhead. But again - provide the link. I get the feeling that you're not telling us everything about that particular case. It is like you Demoscum bastards to only tell half the story, y'know. And before I go, please explain why OBL hasn't been captured. Oh, your honeygirl T'Raisin thinks we already have. You really oughta try some of her gin raisins - it'd beat that bong you've been toaking... In Tora Bora, the 5th Special Forces Group and the 10th Mountain Division had him nailed and Bush had them pulled and turned the operation over to Afghan rebels. Explain. Gee, that's not the way General Tommy Franks remembers it. Served again. (yawn) You're starting to get really boring, y'know that...? What was the purpose of the Iraq invasion again? To insure that dangerous weapons and nuclear equipment and materials, all of which were in known, secure and monitored locations, would not be stolen and dispersed to god knows who? You mean these weapons, assmunch? Or perhaps the ones that weren't there when we arrived? Your butt-buddy Botox Boy has been saying we rushed into war with Iraq. Are you now going to say that we didn't get there quickly enough??? Damn, handing you your ass on platter is too easy. Back to Romper Room for you, Short Bus. (snicker) LC Steve. Let me get this straight. All of these bases are in NC so therefore all the troops who are based there are Southern sympathizers? I think not. While for the most part I tend to ignore remarks about the South, lately I have noticed a tendency for the insults to get very nasty and personal. For the record, I am North Carolina born and bred and damned proud of it. My mother and father were neither brother and sister nor cousins. I am not my own grandpa or any of that other stereotypical stuff some people love to spout. I don't consider Northerners a bunch of carpetbaggers, nor do I consider someone with an Italian last name a member of the Mafia. I don't go traipsing through the woods with a .50-caliber sniper rifle to go deer hunting (I usually use an RPG - just kidding, folks!). So I will ask in all fairness that people ease off the south bashing a tad. (/sarcasm) Else me an' my friend Bubba heah are gonna has to open a can o' whoopass on yer ass. (/sarcasm) Posted by: LC Steve, KotE on October 29, 2004 03:51 PMChucky, You're the obsessive around here. Wadda you pay, about $250 an hour to be treated like that? Asshelmet.
VeeJay, you ignorant slut, where did I say that all the bases in NC are manned with Southern sympathisers? IIRC, most of the troops in the armed forces nowadays are from the South, but that's neither here nor there. During the Civil War (and yes, that's what I call it), the South was undermanned and underequipped due to the Northern states having the majority of the manufacturing and the population. Now, in this day and time, Uncle Sam has seen fit to store bunches and bunches of military playthings south of the Mason-Dixon line. So . . . (stops and thinks for a minute, then slaps self on forehead) Dammit! There I go trying to use logic in an argument with a nincompoop again. My apologies, all. Posted by: LC Steve, KotE on October 29, 2004 03:57 PMmost of you are a bunch of goddam geese. and your children will pay for every one of your idiocies. in the best case scenario, they will only pay with their wallets. Posted by: I Hate Dali on October 29, 2004 04:00 PMN. O'Brain, IMfUI "Chucky, You're the obsessive around here. Wadda you pay, about $250 an hour to be treated like that? Asshelmet." Yet you return to it again and again and seem to have researched prices even. To reiterate: Does the testimony of military personnel to Congress as to what happened at Abu Ghraib betray our troops? It is a pretty simple question N. O'Brain, IMfUI. But go ahead, make jokes about a horrible set of events and evade the question. Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 04:01 PM Right Spatula. Not once have you posted a link to anything you've lied about. As for me pointing you in the direction of the truth, fuck you you lazy bastard. Look it up on your own if you're mentally capable. Even your own people admit to 90% of it, the rest is there for those who aren't so embarassed to confront it. We have lives Lord Spatula. We can't just jump on a plane because you might happen to be home. Our not showing up at your door has nothing to do with testicles. And honestly, what would you do if I showed up on your doorstep? No, really, what would you do? Punch me? Open that can of whup ass you've been saving? Shove a shotgun in my face? Is everything about your manhood? And besides, even if someone did show up I doubt you would shut up. So let's not make promises. Then if I were you, KandyKane, I'd not come in here thinking you're such a bad-ass and writing checks your body can't cash. Amazing how fast your bluff gets called when that happens. Interesting. Good point. Hadn't thought of that. But wouldn't we just need to shred it once, instead of on a regular basis? Wow. Deliberately misreading my comment and offering a Clintoon-esque response. Oh, aren't you clever??? Too much so by half, I'd say. Hey, I'm not the one hoping for a Civil War just because an election doesn't happen to go the way I want it to. I'm merely pointing out that you have options if the burden of being an American becomes to great for you. Usually, I'd meet this with a response like "Come try and make me". But I'm sure that Charles Foster Kane is a little too (note the correct spelling, Kandy-ass) nuanced for that. I accepted Bush's election without resorting to violence in the streets. You can do the same if Kerry wins. Bush isn't a self-admitted war criminal, dumb-ass. Slight difference there. The other difference is that, if Kerry somehow "wins", it will have been because of massive vote fraud. Sorry, fuckstain - that's not an America in which I'm willing to live. If you want to believe the American way of life as we know it will end that's fine. But you know, the GOP still controls the Senate and the House And you know they'll continue to...how again? If vote fraud can elevate Qerry to the White House, how do you know that it can't affect Congressional races, as well? This oughta be good. Pass the popcorn, BC... so I doubt very many of your worst fears will be realized. What's Kerry going to do? Declare martial law and round up Congress and ship them offshore? If you think I'm gonna trust you and your fellow Demoscum to govern fairly...to quote the song, you got another think comin'. Right Spatula. Not once have you posted a link to anything you've lied about. I posted links to my claims, asscrust. I don't recall you doing much of that. Then again, I suppose I shouldn't expect that of someone who flunked special education. As for me pointing you in the direction of the truth, fuck you you lazy bastard. Translation: I can't back up my bullshit!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Look it up on your own if you're mentally capable. Even your own people admit to 90% of it Prove it. Put up or shut up, little smegma-monkey. the rest is there for those who aren't so embarassed to confront it. What, because you say so??? Gonna take more than that around here, fucknozzle. For someone who thinks he's smarter than the rest, you sure don't show me a thing. Than the rest? Nah - there are plenty here like BC and Misha and Sir George, Bishop, Mary, Natasha who are waaay smarter than me. But you're not one of 'em. (snicker) Obviously you're like Chimpboy, you don't listen to news or read the papers. Oh, I read plenty of papers. Just not ones that spew the bullshit you like to suck up. And there isn't a chance in hell I'm going to lead you around by the nose to show you what you already know but refuse to admit. Now that's true. Hell - you don't even have the balls to come spew your bullshit to my face. Bet it'd be enough of a task to get out from behind your mommy's fat ass, wouldn't it? You'll excuse me now. I've played around in this festering cesspool long enough That's true, too. Buh-bye, dicklick. (puts on his Management™ hat and...) "Then if I were you, KandyKane, I'd not come in here thinking you're such a bad-ass and writing checks your body can't cash. Amazing how fast your bluff gets called when that happens." Hey, did I threaten you? What checks have I written that I can't cash? And where did I say I was a bad-ass? And how original is it to steal a line from Top Gun? "The other difference is that, if Kerry somehow "wins", it will have been because of massive vote fraud. Sorry, fuckstain - that's not an America in which I'm willing to live." Wow. So you've already made up your mind that the election is rigged if Kerry wins. That is a really sad commentary of what this election has come down to. Kerry is a war criminal. Democrats want to shred the Constitution. The election is rigged. I'm a fuckstain. Or an asshelmet. Or an assbiscuit. Or a kandy-ass. Or a dumbass. Or an asswipe. Or a chickenshit. Or dumb fuck. Or a pansy ass. Enjoy yourself Lord Spatula I, K&T. And when I leave, be sure to get on the deck of your Top Gun aircraft carrier and declare "Mission Accomplished". You sure have shown me my place. Posted by: Charles Foster Kane on October 29, 2004 04:29 PMJeebus H. Christ. What the fuck is wrong with most of you? Can someone explain to me why you spew the most outrageous lies and make death threats against an honorable man? Is it that you are the victims of the rightwing propaganda machine? Or are you just plain bigoted dumbasses? Gawd, this country is so fucked when 50 million of its citizens are so out of touch with reality they believe the infantile babblings of the rightwing. Posted by: Ivor the Engine Driver on October 29, 2004 04:42 PMKane, Kerry is not only a war criminal, he's an unapologetic self-confessed war criminal. Out of the couple hundred troops in Vietnam who were deeply involved in war crimes (out of over two million who served there) the DNC actually picked one to run for President. What were they thinking when they dug into the bottom 0.001% of US military veterans? Will they run Lt Calley in 2008? Posted by: George Turner on October 29, 2004 04:48 PMLC Bishop: 'He could definitely supply aid if not comfort.'I'm gratified that you thingk that, since giving aid and comfort to the enemy is treason. I can see the reason why everyone involved would want to know the positions of the various players, whether they would or would not support certain thingsWhich as a citizen and not a diplomat was not his place to do. You may see this picking nits, but I see this as at the very least a significnat lapse of judgement, and by the letter of the law, treason. The democratic party would have been served far better by other candidates. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 04:50 PM Charles that was sarcasm my man. thingk? Maybe I'm dringking too much... Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 05:10 PM'Which as a citizen and not a diplomat was not his place to do. ' Why not? He's not representing the US govt, and if he IS, then really the loss is on the NV who mistakenly think he does. I suppose he can clearly state to them his own position, and that of the VVAW. In fact he's much better placed than a diplomat to do that. Are we not allowed to that? Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 05:11 PMHey, did I threaten you? Hey, did I say you threatened me? Two can play that game, chump. What checks have I written that I can't cash? And where did I say I was a bad-ass? Well, let's see... Accomodation Unlimited? Some sort of temporary hotel quarters? You've got be fucking kidding me. I would have sworn it was your mother's basement. And all of this violence and personal invective. Seems to me that you might be, um, compensating for something? You certainly seem to have an obsession with needle dicks. You're real brave spewing that bullshit when no one knows where you are, aren't you, candy-ass? Then you thought you'd get a shot in on CDR Will - I guess that's what they mean by "An Army of One". So much for believing in the Constitution and democracy. We've lived with your jackass President for four years and he wasn't even properly elected. Show a little respect for America. You can leave your citizenship at the door when you emigrate to Saudi Arabia or somewhere else where there are no leftists and no UN to bother you. Oh, and no alcohol either. Then you can blame the D.T.s for your hallucinations. Kinda sounds to me like you think you're some kinda hot shit. Should I poll the rest of the Loyal Citizens, see what they think? And how original is it to steal a line from Top Gun? Oh, like that's an original line. Gawd™, you're such a dumbass. You really must be Farley's in-bred cousin. Wow. So you've already made up your mind that the election is rigged if Kerry wins. It's already been documented, fuckface. Sorry that doesn't jibe with your worldview, but that's your problem, not mine. That is a really sad commentary of what this election has come down to. You can blame your boy Algore for that, shithead. Kerry is a war criminal. Democrats want to shred the Constitution. The election is rigged. I'm a fuckstain. Or an asshelmet. Or an assbiscuit. Or a kandy-ass. Or a dumbass. Or an asswipe. Or a chickenshit. Or dumb fuck. Or a pansy ass. Wow. Twelve in a row right. You're really on a roll there, Chuckles. Enjoy yourself Lord Spatula I, K&T. And when I leave, be sure to get on the deck of your Top Gun aircraft carrier and declare "Mission Accomplished". You sure have shown me my place. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, pissweasel. We paid a lot for that door. --- Charles that was sarcasm my man. His statements are so childish that that statement was down right funny. Come say that to my face, chickenshit. 'Which as a citizen and not a diplomat was not his place to do. ' I suppose he can clearly state to them his own position, and that of the VVAW. In fact he's much better placed than a diplomat to do that. Are we not allowed to that? Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 05:14 PM Does the testimony of military personnel to Congress as to what happened at Abu Ghraib betray our troops? Betray? Turning in a bunch of incompetent idiots who break discipline hardly constitutes "betrayal". The American military found out about it, investigated it, arrested and prosecuted the perps. So what's your fucking point? Other than the top of your head, I mean. Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 29, 2004 05:15 PMCharlie Kane,Actus Ass Driver,and alll the rest of you raving Moonbats When Bush appeared on that carrier. Its your side, thats giving crack to scumbags, to sign up voters. If you throw out all the votes in 2000 by urbane sophisticated New yorkers who voted twice, Bush ,slapped you ass far harder then your 580 vote loss,That keeps you sniveling about selected not elected. I choose to live in the South. Regarding the recession it started during MR Happy William Steers to the left Clintons admin. During the inventor of the internets, campaign they tried to blame Bush for talking it down ,while they lied about the true state of affairs. D'oh, let me try that again ;) Well, leaving the constitutional violation alone for now, as a member of the armed forces (even the reserve) it was a violation of the UCMJ to seek contact with representatives of a beligerant government.'Which as a citizen and not a diplomat was not his place to do. ' In fact, when Kerry testified before the Senate, he lobbied for the unilateral withdrawal of U.S. forces. That was his stated testimony on the NV conditions for the return of US POWs. In his own words: "I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government," That seems like he was negotiating to me. I suppose he can clearly state to them his own position, and that of the VVAW. In fact he's much better placed than a diplomat to do that. Are we not allowed to that?Actually, no we are not. Listen, I know doing so has become the fashion in recent years, but such communication in a time of war (or police action) is still illegal. Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 05:37 PM Ivor the Dipshit said: "Can someone explain to me why you spew the most outrageous lies and make death threats against an honorable man?" Mighty I humbly suggest that ask your DUmbshit/MorOn.org fellow travellers the exact same question regarding the President? Posted by: Deji Pachi on October 29, 2004 05:37 PMDamn, almost 7:00pm. The family will be back tomorrow, and I need to clean up the rat hole I've made of the house. Actus, if my posts hasn't been clear enough, feel free to e-mail me with your questions or critiques. I'll try to respond more coherently sometime late Sunday night(Saturday & Sunday are right out... family time! ). To all the LC's out there, have a great weekend, to all the obnoxious trolls, well, you know.... Posted by: LC Bishop on October 29, 2004 05:54 PMActus, He was a member of the US military engaging in his own private negotiations with a country with which we were at war. Under article 104 he could've been executed by firing squad for that. And what was he negotiating? The FBI files (yes, there are thousands of pages available) say he was trying to get the North Vietnamese to release one American POW to the VVAW instead of the United States, so that, as he put it, the VVAW would gain credibility with the American people. For that alone he should've been executed. He makes Jane Fonda look like a patriot. At least Benedict Arnold was an actual war hero, since John Kerry's medals keep turning up as fraudulent. Anyone for a Silver Star with Combat V??? Fort Bragg has had shotgun carrying guards at their gates since 9/11. As for Fort Bliss, where I currently am stationed, I see less shotgun carriers, but a few are still there. As for the service of LC Haggy, I ought know he's a soldier because I serve with him. Im the one who turned him on to this blog. He wears the 101st Airborne combat patch. Posted by: LC Ron on October 29, 2004 06:33 PMDamn! I go and get the flu for 2 days and I missed all the bashing. What is up with actus, VJ and Chuckie-Poo? Do they not have brains to read and think for themselves or are the Dems still pumping memes into their heads? John Kerry is a TRAITOR as Sir George and other have pointed out, thus he is not qualified to be C-in-C. Let alone all the vetos on Military spending, pay raises and his other gaffes his sterling Senate record shows. And for the Jerkwad who think Texans are lowly cowboys, well guess what mealworm, you aren't welcome here, because we have HIGH standards and you won't make them. So don't try, because we would turn you back at the border and laugh as you drive away in your second hand Volvo with Rainbow stickers pasted all over it. If you Dem-Bots are so proud of John Kerry and his *spit* Military Service *spit* then you guys can keep him, because we sure in the Hell don't want him or the ilk of your kind. Happy Election!! Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 29, 2004 06:37 PMOk, In the interest of not being accused of being a troll, I will come out and say up front that I generally disagree with most of what's said here, along with free republic, LGF, etc. I make it a practice to read boards like this regularly to make sure that I get a broad perspective on things and that I avoid the temptation to 'drink the kool aid' and only expose myself to media that I agree with. That being said, my question is this. Those of you who are making these statements about civil war and not accepting John Kerry as President, what exactly do you mean by that? Are you seriously planning to start militias and take on the government? Or is it just vitriolic rhetoric? Look, I assume that I disagree with most of the politics here, but I would us as a nation to get to the point where we can discuss our disagreements rationally. Maybe I'm just being idealistic. Posted by: Aethern on October 29, 2004 06:45 PMAethern, I don't expect violence on our part if Kerry wins, although we will be mighty pissed off. And you can bet we will be all over any mistake he makes. What you need to be worried about is the Left rioting and going crazy is Bush wins (read the DU and other Leftie blogs, because they have promising this for a while).
more greatest hits from Veejay: In 2000, candidate Bush promised to protect the Social Security surplus. As president, he spent all of it. BZZT! There is no social security fund to begin with, it's financed by the national debt. We sell securities to other nations and ourselves to finance SS. And of course the Iraqis just love us to death. That's why they're trying their best to kill us every day. Or hadn't you kept up with the news? When we crossed the border into Safwan, my unit rolling through was greeted by cheering Iraqis. In Baghdad, we had scores of Iraqis working for us and we were their friends and they ours. I'll especially miss the kids. Youre only seeing a fraction of what goes on in Iraq on the news. In case you hadn't heard, the recession started on Bushs watch. BZZT! The downturn of the economy began in October 2000. As a smartass like you must know, it takes two consecutive quarters of negative growth to make a recession. So Bush inherited the situation. He didn't create it. Posted by: LC Ron on October 29, 2004 07:12 PM'"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government," That seems like he was negotiating to me.' Seems like he was repeating things. Negotiation in my book means give and take. He had nothing to give nor take in the name of the US. At best he was a messenger.
good thing you put in "(police action)". Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 07:23 PM'He was a member of the US military engaging in his own private negotiations with a country with which we were at war. ' At least your buddy above is good enough to call it a police action. Posted by: actus on October 29, 2004 07:25 PMWe should have declared war and stomped them. Regarding violence on the left if Bush wins, I agree that if the populace selects Bush for re-election, than we who disagree with that have a responsibility to accept the decision. And, as you said, we would continue our ideological opposition, but acts of violence are counter to everything that is good about our country. While the atmosphere is too charged right now on both sides, it is my hope that after the election, whatever the result, we can somehow learn to sit at the debate table like grownups. Things such as appropriate taxation, what is the most effective foreign policy, abortion, etc. are complex issues that don't really fit into liberal/conservative dualities, and, in fact, most people I know don't fit snugly into one or the other. I really place the responsibility for where we are today on the shoulders of political leaders from BOTH parties, who have been feverishly painting the other as unfit to govern for much too long. Anyway, I personally pledge no violence regardless of the outcome on Nov. 2nd, and you can bet I will denounce any violence no matter which side of the aisle it comes from. If peaceful opposition is good enough for Ghandi and MLK, it's good enough for me. Besides, violent opposition only undermines a cause. The IRA has been trying to get the Brits out of Northern Ireland for generations, and they haven't and won't succeed. Instead of getting us to leave the middle east alone, Al-Qaeda made it clear that we have to take a proactive approach to that part of the world (despite our disagreements over what exactly that approach should be, I think both sides of the aisle agree on this). I'll see you all on the other side of this mess of a campaign, and hopefully we can soon remember that liberal or conservative, we're all American. God Bless. Posted by: Aethern on October 29, 2004 07:32 PMSo, what, Vietnam wasn't a war? Cool! That means we're still undefeated! Posted by: Deji Pachi on October 29, 2004 07:34 PMAnd, as you said, we would continue our ideological opposition, but acts of violence are counter to everything that is good about our country.Aethern, please tell that to the Union Thugs and others on the left that have been shooting, looting and rioting in Bush/Cheney Campaign Headquarters all across the US. There has been more acts of violence by the Kerry Supporters against Bush supporters that I can list. So read this post of mine on the Act of Sleaze and Violence by the Dems, and tell me we can live in peace when we are being assaulted and cheated. Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 29, 2004 07:44 PMdeji, we didn't lose the war, we lost the peace. The reactionary leftists saw to that. The Tet offensive? That amazing victory by the Viet Cong? The VC were slaughtered. But before they lost, the VC slaughtered thousands of South Vietnamese civilians. 4,000 in Hue, e.g. [IIRC] Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 29, 2004 07:50 PMMr Minority, Yes, what those guys did to that little girl is pretty despicable. The shooting incident was reprehensible, and I hope that person is found and brought to justice. The invasion of the BC headquarters was just plain stupid. The problem is that things like this are coming from both sides of the fence. What is happening to both our parties is that extremists are hijacking the mainstreams. That is what is behind this whole painting the other as treasonous and unfit, etc. On our side, they say "those Republicans are racist, fascist, liars who want to steal grandma's social security check, so you'd better turn to us if you want to defeat them". On your side, they say "Those democrats are commie, God-hating, high-taxing traitors, so you'd better turn to us if you don't want them putting France in charge". The extremists, who are few in number, gain power by committing acts such as those you mentioned, because then extremists from the other side can point to them and say "see, you just can't deal with these people". This leaves us more polarized, and in a polarized environment, the extremists on both sides have more power than they should. What I believe needs to happen (and won't under either Bush or Kerry... 2008, you can't get here soon enough), is for there to be a candidate from either party who can foster a bipartisan coalition of the moderates from both sides and start making some real progress. Posted by: Aethern on October 29, 2004 07:59 PMhat I believe needs to happen (and won't under either Bush or Kerry... 2008, you can't get here soon enough), is for there to be a candidate from either party who can foster a bipartisan coalition of the moderates from both sides and start making some real progress.Aethern, I wish there was a candidate that both sides would find acceptable, but since there isn't at this time we must vote for Bush or Kerry. And I hope and pray that people make the right decision for America. Even though it sounds like this site is full of extremists, it's not, it is full of people that are tired of having their civil rights and liberties trampled in the dirt. And because there is a large percentage of ex and current military (myself included) there is a tender spot when it comes to messing with our sailors, soldiers and airmen, you can't do that and expect to come out of here with your head. Aethern, please don't think that we are all foul mouth Neanderthals, because we are not, most of us are professionals with a brain to think with. Mr Minority PS: If you have any links where Bush supporters performed acts of violence, I would like to see them, because I have seen nothing in the Media, and they would be happy to expose them. Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 29, 2004 08:38 PMMr. Minority, I don't think that you are at all foul mouth Neanderthals, and, as a vet myself, I have no tolerance for denigrating the troops. As to John Kerry's actions post-Vietnam, I respectfully disagree that he was denigrating the troops, but I do understand your argument that he was. I merely have a different interpretation of the facts. My opposition to the President comes largely from the fact that I feel that he does not respect the troops, and uses them as a political tool, rather than as the defenders of our nation. That opinion comes from my belief that the war in Iraq had more to do with political motives than true national security issues. Not that Saddam Hussein shouldn't have been removed, but patience, wisdom, and better diplomacy could have made it happen in a way that would have been much more successful. I understand that the atmosphere right now is so charged that the rhetoric is bound to soar into the stratosphere (believe me, it certainly does on our side!). In fact, I give credit that the right generally makes their case a little more rationally than we do, as we tend to get over-emotional and forget that facts win debates instead of feelings. That's something we need to work on. I, too, hope that the people make the right decision (I would imagine that you and I differ as to what that decision should be). We'll just have to see what happens. Well, good night for now, and God Bless. BTW: West Boynton man allegedly threatens to kill girlfriend for backing Kerry As I said, it's coming from both sides, and it should stop, on both sides. Posted by: Aethern on October 29, 2004 09:26 PMAethern, If we were allowed to finish the job in 1991, just think of how many folks would be alive and how much bullshit would have been avoided. Posted by: LC Gunsniper on October 29, 2004 09:40 PM...it's coming from both sides, and it should stop, on both sides. "Officer, I have to protest! That man repeatedly, repeatedly, I say, smashed his nose against my fist! Look! My knuckles are all scratched! See! That proves it!" I bet you think the Palestinians are poor helpless victims of Israeli agression, too. Idiot. Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 29, 2004 09:42 PMOne more thing before I go, in the name of facts: Honorable Discharge. Posted by: Aethern on October 29, 2004 09:45 PMGunsniper, there is something we definitely agree upon. Saddam should never have been left in power in 1991. Posted by: Aethern on October 29, 2004 09:46 PM101st Airborne Division ... to those brave few that gave their lives in defense of this great country.Haggy, thanks for your service. You and yours have done more to preserve my nation's sovreignty than most Canucks will admit, and more than recent (canadian) administrations have been bothered to take an interest in. Posted by: RepubliCanuk on October 29, 2004 10:07 PM “This shit actually happened and no amount of calling Kerry a traitor for testifying as to what other soldiers said takes that away. Military people aren't automatically saints and the things they do in America's name, good and bad, reflect on all of us. To all of you soldiers, let me put it this way: if you knew someone in your platoon had raped a 13 year old, what would you do?”--Kane Forgive me for being late to the festival boys. Remember, boyz, the LeftMedia will regard itself as de facto vindicated, espec as per their anti-W articles and reporting, if Clinton-counseled Kerry "wins" against Dubya vv Clinton-and Clinton-pol machine style/supp election fraud. A Kerry win, legitimate or illegitimate, lawful or unlawful, is all they need! ON a separate note, Osama is claiming that there are suicidal bombers ready to attack Russia - bear in mind that Russia is referring to America AND ONLY AMERICA when its leaders speak of the source or sole source of terror in the world, AND THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNIST CLINTONS AND THEIR CABAL IS FOR THEM AND COMMIE ASIA IS NOT GOING TO ALTER IT, IN FACT WILL JUSTIFY IT. LIKE THE CLINTONS, LEFT-/COMMIE- BELOVED DIALECTICISM, ALTERNATISM, AND ALTERIORISM, ETC. ALLOWS STILL COMMUNISM-CENTRIC RUSSIA-CHINA TO WORK BOTH FOR AND AGAINST THEIR OWN POLITICAL, IDEOLOGICAL, MORAL-ETHICAL, NATIONAL, OR PRAGMATIC INTERESTS AND ALLIES, ala REASONABLE DENIAL, MISINFORMATION, DISINFORMATION, and UN-INFORMATION! If Clintonian Communist Fascist America can make a "mistake/error", Communist Fascist Russia and prob China can as well, espec when it comes to attacking NORAM and American interests by PC "mistake/error", eg ISLAMISTS IN CANADA, where WAR FOR SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM = MERITORIOUS-RIGHTEOUS DEFENSE AGAINST ALLEGED AND [LEFT-]"VERIFIED" AMERICAN AND WESTERN "IMPERIALISM" AND "INTERNATIONAL AGGRESSION(S)"! Save us & AMERICA, from Bush and Kerry, etal. OH GREAT CLINTONS! As with likely America-destabiliaizing over IRAN, SYRIA, and NORTH KOREA-TAIWAN, etc.any war in NORAM will preferably be mostly CONVENTIONAL and not more than a LIMITED NUCLEAR WAR, at least tactically - BUT, THE DANGER IS THAT RUSSIA OR RUSSIA-CHINA WILL USE THE THREAT OF HER LR NUCLEAR ARSENAL(S) TO DEMAND PC/DENIABLE CONCESSIONS AND GUARANTEES FROM AMERICA IN LIEU OF STRATEGIC/GENERAL , OR LIMITED, MILITARY WITHDRAWAL FROM CONUS OR NORAM! THE FAILED LEFT IS AT WAR BUT DOESN'T WANT AMERICA TO BE THE SAME, AND WILL WANT/PREFER AMERICA ON THE DEFENSIVE AT ALL TIMES. Posted by: JosephMendiola on October 29, 2004 11:26 PMYou are all nigger lovers! You and your kike overlords all have to die! Posted by: 88 on October 29, 2004 11:26 PMKinda fuzzy, Aethern. Hard to see on my copy of your link. So, would that be the DD 214, Honorable Discharge, arranged by Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter to cover up the fact that Kerry was, actually, dishonorably discharged before he was honorably discharged? Just another pretender to the "fair minded liberal" title, folks. Or deluded idealist, take your pick. FOAD Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on October 29, 2004 11:33 PMIt takes a tough man to threaten the life of a U.S. Senator on the internet. If you want to do violence to someone, - DO IT TO ME. Consider me a stand in for all us "pussy liberal faggot commie back-stabbing anti-american pacificst's". Seriously. Take a stand, man. Do something. I'm sure you can find my email address attached to this post. I'll be waiting with baited breath for your reply. I'll make you famous. Posted by: Lysander on October 30, 2004 12:07 AMAfter reading some more postings on this site I'd like to extend my invitation to all of you violence-obsessed hermits, not just the original author of the sentiments about lynching Sen. Kerry. The opportunity of a lifetime folks...I'm here. -via con dios Posted by: Lysander on October 30, 2004 12:16 AMLysander, who wants to hang Kerry? Personally I think exile to a rock in the asteroid belt is far more fitting. Posted by: Deathknyte on October 30, 2004 12:37 AMWell, I've made it to the end of this thread, but it was not easy. Point of Reference: I am a long time Republican (since I was old enough to vote) and have never voted for a Democrat for president. I had the honor of being able to vote for Ronald Reagan twice. I gotta tell ya, the level of discourse on this board is embarrassing. Aside from Mr. Minority, it's like junior high school and you all just learned cuss words and Mom and Dad are not around. So childish. As a conservative, I ask that you take a good long look at Mr. Bush before you vote for him next week. He is not a conservative. He and the rupublican controlled congress are spending us into the poor house. When you are up to your eyeballs in debt, only a fool piles more on. That, my freinds, is what Democrats do. That's why we are Republicans, because we are different then those Tax and Spend liberals... and I don't think Cut Tax and Spend is quite what the doctor ordered. 9/11 ranks in my mind with Pearl Harbor. Our attack on Afganistan was a grand success, but we never got our man, and we then seemed to forget about him. Are any of us safer with OBL still around? We made great strides in dealing with his command structure but the we took our eyes off the ball and dove headfirst into Iraq. If we could not do both at the same time, Iraq could have waited. Judging by the news out of Iraq, it appears this administration could not manage both, even with Republican control of the House and Senate. Is Kerry the right man for the job? I have no idea - I don't know much about the man: Senator, fought in the war, blah, blah, blah. Bush on the other hand, is pretty well documented, and the only things I can see in his favor are the fact that his father had a distinguished career and that he is in favor of the death penalty. However, I detest nepotism (how can you vote for a guy because of who his father is?) and his approach to executions was a bit too cavalier for me - if you are going to execute, make damn sure the person is guilty, otherwise just lock them up. I will admit, Bush lost me in 2000 when his campaign trashed McCain and his family in order to win the nomination, McCain who was a veteran, former-POW and fellow Republican. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I see no benefit and have no doubts. BTW: Someone scoffed that the cost of health care has gone up on Bush's watch. Well I just had to make insurance selections for next year and the amount coming out of my paycheck each month is going up by about $200. Oh and the exchange about Al Zarqawi (sp?) and how we held off on taking him out so as to not disrupt the plans for the invasion of Iraq? See this article in the Wall Street Journal. http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB109866031609354178-IdjgYNhlaR3n52paIKIaKmGm4,00.html The American Conservative magazine has endorsed Bednarik and some other guy as alternatives to Bush and Kerry. I am going to check them out. Fredd Fredd, thanks for those DNC talking points. You don't know much about Kerry? Who scripts that? Transparently bad writing is, well, transparent. Go vote for the self-confessed war criminal if you must. Posted by: George Turner on October 30, 2004 02:26 AMFredd, just an fyi. If you're worried about the national debt, it's at an all time average as a percentage of GNP. Oh. And there's a war on. Idiot. Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 30, 2004 07:22 AMFredd, I concider myself a concervative not necessarily a Republican (more of a Constitutionalist), but I am voting for President Bush. Yes, the Gov't has grown and Yes, the Gov't expenditures have increased, but you need to look at the root causes, not just the problem. 9/11 and the War on Terror are the root causes for these increases, and I am glad that he has done them. The 9/11 attacks themselves has cost the US billions in jobs, cleanup and lost businesses but we needed to get back on our feet, and the Gov't helped. I am a Texan and had Bush as my Governor, so I know what he is capable of, and it is not all spend and big Gov't, those are the by-products of this WoT. I will vote for President Bush because he has the resolve to do what needs to be done to protect America and stomp on Terrorist's heads. Kerry doesn't have that. He is only saying the tough words to get himself elected. His past actions demonstrate to America what he position is and that position is pro-UN, pro-EU, wishy-washy, lying, and NOT pro-military. I don't trust hum and never will. Thus Bush is the MAN for America. Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 30, 2004 07:25 AMSorry, let me clarify. I am no Bush koolaid drinker. There are policies of this administration I disagree with. But remember this: a vote for a minority party is a vote for John Kerry. Posted by: N. O'Brain, IMfUI on October 30, 2004 07:25 AM(Straps on asbestos underwear...) Okay Doggies, enough barking and read carefully... First off... over the past few weeks there has been attacks on character and integrity on W and JFK ver X (JFK-X, as I shall henceforth refer to that faggot - sorry for the phobic metaphor to the Rainbow persuasion). Some of them were true while others weren't. It would be a lot better if everyone were to stay the course and concentrate on the here-and-now of the prez debate. If I were a Yank, I couldn't care less about W's spotty TANG service or JFK-X's treachery during Nam. I'd concentrate on what these 2 candidates have to offer in terms of leadership, policy and the ability to deliver on those promises in a timely matter. Call me idealistic? Fine. But when you cast that ballot, you're not only determining your country's standing in your eyes, but also the world's. This is the price of living in the World's Sole Superpower. Secondly - if you're that concerned about celebrities endorsing Candidate A over Candidate B, check out this link penned by Chuck DiMaria at Anti-Music. I hope that this shouldn't be the case in this election, but remember Bush père vs. Clinton? (I never forgave Arsenio Hall for fellating Clinton on-air while refusing to invite GB 1 for a debate. Damn you, Arsenio!) In the unlikely event that you wind up with JFK-X, be very fortunate that you could still elect a Republican Congress. Sadly, we Canucks have almost no recourse - we all "voted" Liberal, thus everything's Liberal. May be best man (or liar) win! Happy Hallowe'en! Posted by: Jacques Vader on October 30, 2004 08:23 AM(WARNING: CANUCK-ISTANI CONTENT!) Fellow Countryman RC: Haggy, thanks for your service. You and yours have done more to preserve my nation's sovreignty than most Canucks will admit, and more than recent (canadian) administrations have been bothered to take an interest in. I know a couple of guys who are (ex-)Airborne who I'm grateful for, not only in service to our country, but for their friendship. When the Canadian Airborne Regiment was dismantled by the Cretin Fiberals, these guys, along with others, weren't too fucking thrilled about that. It wasn't as if they commited genocide, or killed local civilians or tried to overthrow the Federal Gov't - it was all over general stupidity (not a service offence AFAIK). Go to any PPCLI, RCR or Van Doo base and you'll find some bitter ex-Airborne types reminiscing about the great things they had done in service to God, Queen and Country. Lest we forget. NEXT! Posted by: Jacques Vader on October 30, 2004 08:42 AMMr. Minority - Thanks for you reply. I agree that we need to look at the root causes of the deficit, or to be more precise, the national debt. It is big and getting bigger and was certainly not the fault of GWB - but his policies are not helping. He is reducing the tax base (tax cuts reduce the income) while increasing the "outgo". If the 9/11 attacks resulted in the hole we are spending ourselves into, I could understand. However, the war on Iraq, in my mind, can only be related to 9/11 by stretching. Iraq was about a lot of things - establishing it as a main front in the response to 9/11 was a PR move. Iraq has been a burr under the saddle since the first Gulf War. Patrolling the No-Fly zones costs money and there was really no end in sight. We could not just walk away. The sanctions were being violated at will by the Russians and Europeans and US companies were being left out. Plus it was bad press to have all those kids starving and dying for lack of medicine. Saddam was a cancer and it is good that he is gone, but there was more to it than that. Iraq sits on a great deal of oil. We want to control it. Heck, I'm all for that, but there were smarter ways of accomplishing that than unprovoked aggression. I addition, we used Iraq to set an example to other countries that we have the might and we are not afraid to use it. One more point and then I'm out of here: you may notice that I don't use the phrase "War on Terror". That is one of the stupidist phrases I have ever heard. Terror is a tactic, not an enemy. The Brits did not declare a WOT when dealing with the IRA; the Israelis did not declare a WOT when confronted by the PLO, Hamas, etc. By saying we are in a WOT means that we need to get involved anywhere a group uses terrorism, which has a pretty broad definition. That war will never end. The group we were supposed to be fighting was (and is) Al Qaida. Smoke those bastards out and roast 'em over a pit of hot coals. I imagine that we could have made great progress in doing so if we had used a fraction of the Iraq money to keep up a full court press on OBL. Anyway, thanks for listening. We could continue this debate for days, but then we'd have to put up with these other guys calling me an idiot and accusing me of using DNC talk points. Oh and telling me that my writing is "transparently bad". On a page filled with F-bombs, pissing contests and guys who can't spell, I'd find that to be highly insulting, if I did not stop and consider the source. Try to keep these guys in line or the only folks you attract to this site will be folks just as rabid on the other side. I can be entertaing but there is no learning going on. For that, you might as well be watching TV. Posted by: Fredd on October 30, 2004 09:25 AMFredd, a couple of things to ponder. First, we do not control Iraqi oil, the Iraqis do. They have a council that awards contracts to the highest bidders, whether it be America or foreign. Second, the War on Terror meme that you don't like, it should be "War on Terrorists", because that is what it really is. And Third, OBL is not the only Terrorist around, we need to eliminate all of them. I believe that the current situation in Iraq is the results of Terrorist from around the Middle East gathering in Iraq to fight the US. Thus it is the best situation for us wiping them out. Rather than hunting them all over the world, we have them in one place. OBL is just a figure head now, wasting a lot of man power to find and kill him is not the smartest way to combat the Terrorist, we need to go after the real nutcases that are holding up in Iraq at this time. We may disagree in this, but we can at least converse civily, thus I don't consider you a Troll, just someone with a difference of opinion. Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 30, 2004 09:46 AMHe is reducing the tax base (tax cuts reduce the income) while increasing the "outgo". Fredd, tax cuts don't do that. Tax cuts allow people and businesses to keep more of the money they earn. People then go out and spend that money, further fueling the economy. Companies, meanwhile, put that extra money back into their businesses - upgrading equipment, purchasing materials...and, most importantly, hiring more employees to handle the extra production. This expands the tax base, while spinning off a whole new round of consumer & business spending, and the cycle begins anew. This has been proven three times in the last 40 years - by John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Each man reduced taxes; each time the economy grew as a direct result. So no, sir - tax cuts do not reduce the tax base, but expand it. I understand how you may feel otherwise, but your position is not supported by the facts. It takes a tough man to threaten the life of a U.S. Senator on the internet. If you want to do violence to someone, - DO IT TO ME. Consider me a stand in for all us "pussy liberal faggot commie back-stabbing anti-american pacificst's". Seriously. Take a stand, man. Do something. LCs, just FYI - I just answered his challenge - just as he asked, via email. I'll take bets on whether he ever actually takes me up on it. Smart money here says he'll puss out, same as every other coward's ever done. Lysander, you've been called out, chump-ette. What say you, chickenshit?
How very damned typical... Fredd, You said. Mr. Minority - Thanks for you reply. I agree that we need to look at the root causes of the deficit, or to be more precise, the national debt. It is big and getting bigger and was certainly not the fault of GWB - but his policies are not helping. John Kerry wants to ramp up spending while increasing taxes, which at this point would reduce revenue. We'd be in debt so deep we couldn't see daylight. He is reducing the tax base (tax cuts reduce the income) while increasing the "outgo". How does a tax cut reduce the tax base, which is the sum of taxable assets? If your taxes were cut in half your part of the tax base would go up, since you'd have more taxable assets. Perhaps you should learn the difference between the terms tax base, tax rate, etc. Further, you say you voted for Reagan so you should understand the Laffer curve, which has been confirmed experimentally. If tax rates are too high then cutting them increases tax revenues, which means more money for the government. Economists took a look at W's tax cut and the change in revenue and concluded that we had been on the right (downward slope – diminishing returns) side of the Laffer curve, based on the subsequent increase in tax revenues. If the 9/11 attacks resulted in the hole we are spending ourselves into, I could understand. However, the war on Iraq, in my mind, can only be related to 9/11 by stretching. Iraq was about a lot of things - establishing it as a main front in the response to 9/11 was a PR move. Iraq has been a burr under the saddle since the first Gulf War. Patrolling the No-Fly zones costs money and there was really no end in sight. Estimates of defense spending devoted to keeping Saddam bottled up made in the late 1990's, when extrapolated across the subsequent years of sanctions, indicate we spent about $600 billion on those zones. All we got in return was 12 years of dead Iraqi baby news shown throughout the Middle East. When was it supposed to end? How can anyone justify spending $600 billion (with a B) to make us less safe in the long term, the short term, while killing 5,000 kids a month just to line the pockets of Chirac and Schroder? Further, the sanctions were falling apart, weapons were pouring into Iraq from all over the world, and the only impetus the UN had too keep sanctions in place was that they were making too much kickback money to give it up. We could not just walk away. The sanctions were being violated at will by the Russians and Europeans and US companies were being left out. Plus it was bad press to have all those kids starving and dying for lack of medicine. Saddam was a cancer and it is good that he is gone, but there was more to it than that. Iraq sits on a great deal of oil. We want to control it. Even the British Communist Party has said the oil conspiracy is infantile and stupid. The US already in effect controls the world's oil, and having some boots on the ground doesn't change anything. Further, we don't actually control the oil and it's being sold to France, Russia, Turkey, and other countries, not the US. Even if it was sold to the US it wouldn't matter because oil is a commodity. Heck, I'm all for that, but there were smarter ways of accomplishing that than unprovoked aggression. Okay genius, name the "smarter way". We're all ears. Have been since before 9/11. In fact, the entire Internet sat and waited for someone, anyone, to come up with a "smarter way". We're still waiting. Millions of time-wasting morons kept saying "there should be a smarter way" but not a single one, none of them, could post, link, e-mail, or otherwise come up with an alternate solution. Saying there's a "better way" and coming up with a better way is the difference between a whining child and someone who has a solution. To those who just carp and complain positing the existance of a better way is trivial, but to those who bear responsibility and have to implement a solution a bit more is required, like an actual plan, with actual outcomes. I might think we should have cars that get 5000 miles to the gallon. I can whine all day long. But there's the rub. Nobody can figure out how to make one.
I addition, we used Iraq to set an example to other countries that we have the might and we are not afraid to use it. Now that was one of the most profoundly stupid arguments I heard coming from the left during the 14 month "rush to war". I suppose all those dictators are just sitting around waiting for the US to set some precedent… I can just imagine that conversation with the Chia Pet in charge of North Korea. Uh huh. One more point and then I'm out of here: you may notice that I don't use the phrase "War on Terror". That is one of the stupidist phrases I have ever heard. Terror is a tactic, not an enemy. Thanks for yet another Michael Moore talking point. However, what we're trying to eliminate is a tactic, that of decapitating people, killing civilians in sneak attacks, kidnapping, etc. We could call it a war on Islamic fundamentalism and despotism, but then that wouldn't be politically correct, now would it? The Brits did not declare a WOT when dealing with the IRA; the Israelis did not declare a WOT when confronted by the PLO, Hamas, etc. And they've had to watch their women and children get blown up for decade after decade, haven't they? Perhaps you'll be happy when John Kerry reduces terrorism back to a nuissance, when American women and children are only blown up every other year. By saying we are in a WOT means that we need to get involved anywhere a group uses terrorism, which has a pretty broad definition. Well thanks for thinking like a three year old. Please grow up soon. Even the Democrat teenagers were smart enough to see how that analogy lasted about 15 minutes on the Internet. I suppose you think fighting communism meant we had to fight it everywhere at once. By your own standard we should give up fighting poverty because we can't fight it everywhere simultaneously. That war will never end. Nor will the war on poverty. Let's just surrender and cut taxes in half. The group we were supposed to be fighting was (and is) Al Qaida. Incorrect, oh shortsighted wonder boy. Al-Qaeda is a small group with big goals, but unless we seriously revamp the Middle East it will just be but one name on an endless stream of random terrorist groups, each with a name more clever than the last. Smoke those bastards out and roast 'em over a pit of hot coals. I imagine that we could have made great progress in doing so if we had used a fraction of the Iraq money to keep up a full court press on OBL. No, keeping a full court press on OBL, using heavy division, would've just wasted more money. How many divisions would it take to root out the Unabomber? How many for Eric Robert Rudolph? Would it be two, twenty, two-hundred, two-thousand? Having a hammer is useless if you don't know where to use it, and more hammer and more blows are just a waste of time, resources, and attention. But to a kid with a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Anyway, thanks for listening. We could continue this debate for days, but then we'd have to put up with these other guys calling me an idiot and accusing me of using DNC talk points. Well since you keep repeating and rehashing every tired and debunked argument of the left it's not surprising that we would, now is it. Oh and telling me that my writing is "transparently bad". On a page filled with F-bombs, pissing contests and guys who can't spell, I'd find that to be highly insulting, if I did not stop and consider the source. The people flinging the insults are being honest, whereas you are just being disingenuous, if not outright lying. Dishonesty shows through. Try to keep these guys in line or the only folks you attract to this site will be folks just as rabid on the other side. I can be entertaing but there is no learning going on. Well for some reason each thread gets transformed into homoerotoic fantasies, but that's a recent trend. However I don't intend to post empty links that say "discuss", just like Kos, and pretend that the pretentious language constitutes a form of "thought". And in case you didn't bother to notice, this site happens to be one of the most rabidly anti-Bush right-wing site on the web. It really does win awards for the irritating level of Bush bashing. However Bush is not a self-confessed war criminal who could've been executed for treason by firing squad. Nor is he promising everything while thinking adverbs and adjectives constitute "a plan". For that you'll have to vote for the ultra-rich narcissistic aristocrat.
The offer still stands. The address is real. I mistakenly wrote my address in the first post as being at "aol.com". I corrected it in the second. The offer still stands...Want some?- Get some. Posted by: Lysander on October 30, 2004 04:47 PMMr. Minority: The Iraqi Council should award contracts to the lowest bidder, not the highest. I would be amazed if non-members of the coalition were getting any contracts in Iraq. That leaves the US, UK, Italy and, oh yeah, Poland. They have a big Petroleum industry there, right? The War on Terorists is actually a War on Al Qaeda. There are terrorists in many countries of the world. We are focused on the Islamic Fundamentalists, which encompasses other groups than AQ, but I have not heard of any operations against Hamas or Hezbollah or any of these other groups. The groups that we have engaged have been AQ or AQ allies. As far as using Iraq as a trapping mechanism, I don't buy it. I think the bulk of the fighters in Iraq are homegrown. So we invade, kill civilians as a part of the war, then their relatives take up arms to strike back. That is what I would do. I think AQ is in there to get some headlines and take credit where they can. One of the tactics that I had heard about was to buy hostages from the local insurgents who buy them from criminal kidnappers. Capitalism at its most basic. Not sure if you will see this - the thread is getting old. Plus this board is creeping me out. That George guy seems to think everything ties into gay sex and I don't swing that way. I think he needs a boyfriend. He is in luck tho - I think both candidates are now in favor of same sex marraige, so he has that going for him. I enjoyed chatting with you. Keep an open mind - know well that Foxnews is not the answer. It may be good for some laughs but not as a source of information. The guy who owns it is Australian. Not as bad as French but he is not an American. He'll do what is good for him, not for the USA. Vote on Tuesday. Lord Spatula, Fredd, there are other opperations against terrorist organization, haven't you heard of our helping in the Philipines? As for AQ, they are just the top bunch of Bad Guys, but all need to be eliminated for the world to be safer. As for the "insurgient" in Iraq, if you had been reading the news, you would know that 90% of them are Non-Iraqi, thus we are weeding the ilk out of the Middle East. FoxNews is not the only news service around, in fact I get most of my news on the Internet. Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 30, 2004 05:26 PMLysander, what's your problem man? Do you have a death wish? Lord Spats is probably doing a family thing and doesn't have time to waste on you now. If you are dying to get your ass whooped just wait until he is ready. Until then, chill out dude, go play with yourself again. Mr Minority LB & IB Mr. Minority, Lysander, It's nice to know that you will be thinking about me every 2 sec. Have fun Short-Stroker. Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 30, 2004 06:15 PMCome on...I'll make you famous. I can picture a local news "teaser": Lysander, the world's only talking pile of dogshit, gets stepped on and "flattened" by a Texas man! Details at 11! Posted by: Elephant Man on October 31, 2004 12:02 AMThe offer still stands. The address is real. I mistakenly wrote my address in the first post as being at "aol.com". Uh-huh. Asshole's so stupid he forgets his own address. YeahRight™. I corrected it in the second. The offer still stands...Want some?- Get some. 5330 Bent Tree Forest Dr,#712 Bring it on, limp-wristed chickenshit. Is it prudent to give your address out for the whole internet to see? Oh, yeah, right. Do you honestly think you're the first dipshit who's ever made noise like he was gonna come down here? Regardless; Dallas isn't too far... Uh-huh. Not according to your IP address. You'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath... (rolls eyes) Posted by: Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant on October 31, 2004 12:29 AMElephant Man- Log-off 'bahty-boy. You should know what that means. I note that the link to Kerry's Honorable Discharge that Aethern posted is the one he got when he was transfered to the Navy reserve for Officer training. Look at the date: 1966. The second page is his transfer from active duty to inactive reserve. I want to see the one he got when he was released from service in 1972. Don't try to foist off the one he got after the Carter armistice, either. That one has the date blacked out. He has said himself that all of his records are not released and I'd like to know why. I know why the same MSM that hounded Bush for the Guard/AWOL story for at least FIVE YEARS is making no moves on Kerry's records. Of course, we know why that is. Posted by: StinKerr on October 31, 2004 12:54 AMElephant Man-Log off 'bahty boy.You should know what that means. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What kind of comeback was that? I've seen a lot of snot-nosed little punkasses thumping their flabby chests with their little semen encrusted fists but this moron takes the prize. Hey "Dickhandler"! Go on home and suck your momma's tit. Posted by: Elephant Man on October 31, 2004 03:11 AMWant some?-Get some. Catchphrase used by Dickhandler er, Lysander when he's out "twinking". I noticed through my laughter as I read all the shrill bleatings of the howling moonbats that one of them called itself "Charles Foster Kane". Another effete "metrosexual" majoring in "liberal Arts" at the local community college. Given the hysterical nature of his posts, he should have called himself "Rosebud". Posted by: Elephant Man on October 31, 2004 03:42 AMWhat? No more posturing from that pimple-faced fat kid? Looks like Dickhandler er, Lysander scuttled back under his rock like a cockroach. Figures. Looks like Dickhandler er, Lysander scuttled back under his rock like a cockroach. I'm guessing he didn't realize that The Management™ knew his probable location, based on his IP address. At best, he's in Colorado, since that's pretty much the area closest to me where his ISP provides service. However, his IP translated to some hellhole in Vermont. Yeah, that Vermont. YEEEEARRRRRRRGH!!!!!!! (grin) 'However, his IP translated to some hellhole in Vermont. Yeah, that Vermont. YEEEEARRRRRRRGH!!!!!!! (grin) What you got on me big boy? Posted by: actus on October 31, 2004 01:41 PMWhat you got on me big boy? You mean besides brains, brawn, common sense, morality, wisdom, talent, sense of humor, hair, courage, brass balls and a hot-looking wife? Quite a number of things, I'd say. Gee, where shall I begin...? (snicker)
If there are no such wars, on the world stage, then by extention, to have such wars on the domestic stage would be foolish too. Let's all abolish the Police forces?!?! No, the left isn't Quite THAT dumb yet. Vader - My dad was 22 yrs RCAF. I know that those wearing the uniforms are NOT the problem, its the dipshytes forming policy. Posted by: RepubliCanuk on October 31, 2004 02:21 PMLord Spatula I, King & Tyrant: 'a hot-looking wife?' Bring her too! some of the girls are into that! Posted by: actus on October 31, 2004 02:43 PMBring her too! some of the girls are into that! Girls, is that what you call your Gay boyfriends? I don't think you would know any women that could stand to be around a sniveling little puke such as yourself. I bet the gay women you know beat you up just for the fun of it. Mr Minority Posted by: LC & IB Mr Minority on October 31, 2004 03:07 PMBring her too! some of the girls are into that! I don't think that'd be a good idea. You don't have enough HMO to handle the ass-whipping I'd give you - and her temper's worse than mine. Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant: Pleeeeease come. pleaaaase. This is too hot. Posted by: actus on October 31, 2004 03:30 PMPleeeeease come. pleaaaase. This is too hot. Like I said, LCs - no way I can make this asshat sound that stupid... (rolls eyes) 'Like I said, LCs - no way I can make this asshat sound that stupid... (rolls eyes)' You're just scared. I promise i'll be gentle. at first. Posted by: actus on October 31, 2004 07:49 PMConsidering you're a ball-less, limp-wristed, limp-dicked wonder, that's about the most hilarious thing you've ever said. You people are all full of hate. Hate is not a family value. "Rope. Tree. Justice" WTF?!?! Is this how you operate? Seriously? If so move to somwhere that gives a shit. Posted by: Bob on October 31, 2004 08:50 PMLC, the military succeeded in its mission. It was told to take out Hussein, and it did. Those brainless simps that Bush has planning things in the Pentagon listened to that Iranian spy Chalabi and didn't think they had to do things like guard (or maybe destroy) ammo dumps. The US military is the finest in the world; it's not the first time soldiers have been betrayed by the fantasy-land civilian dipshit REMFs Bush won't fire. Bush is not your friend. He's a phony-baloney fake flyboy who's never been shot at, never returned fire, never had his life in danger. He blew off the last part of his TANG service (if you don't believe, me ask his ghostwriter) to go to Harvard Business school, and he did it because he knew he could get away with it - after all, his daddy was a Congressman and was used to cleaning up W's messes. Posted by: beerwulf on October 31, 2004 09:49 PMHow awesome, a blog written in crayon. Posted by: R. Robot on October 31, 2004 09:52 PMI have a question for all the fine right-wing patriots here. Would you consider assassinating Kerry if he got elected and you had the means to do so? I mean, if you think Kerry getting lynched is justice, wouldn't you want to take part in that justice? -SocialistWeasel, who absolutely condemns such actions, but wonders about some of the people here Beerwulf, Bush didn't fly the last two years because the ANG was chock full of pilots in 1972 and 1973 as we wound down the war. He didn't get in trouble because there wasn't any trouble to get into. The military weighed both men. One got a multi-million dollar fighter plane and one was found too incompetent to command a speed boat. Right now we're just waiting for the election to finish up so we can continue digging into Kerry's Other Than Honorable discharge. Normally we wouldn't have to dig, but then Kerry still refuses to release his military records. Why do you think that is? Posted by: George Turner on October 31, 2004 10:10 PMLord Spatula I, King & Tyrant: I'd love to get the chance to show just what I can do. Please come on down. If you don't like you can say stop. You're not afraid of liking it are you? We can play J. Edgar Hoover if you want. Wanna Hoover me? Posted by: on October 31, 2004 10:20 PM[That's enough, asshole. Enjoy your vacation. -The Management] george: 'Kerry still refuses to release his military records. Why do you think that is?' To give you beautiful people something to foam about over the next four years. conspiracies will flourish. money will be raised. Is he the manchurian candidate? Was he a war criminal? was he a cheerleader? The right wing persecution complex will live on, and get to fight their old war against commies, while the adults fight the war on terror. Posted by: actus on October 31, 2004 10:23 PMYou think the Pentagon wanted to take all its resources out of Afghanistan and let Osama get away so they could go after Saddam? The U.S. had Saddam in a box. He hadn't produced any chemical or biological weapons since 1991, and his nuclear program was totally dismantled by 1996. One of the U.S.'s top generals accurately forecast publically that it would take several hundred thousand soldiers occupying Iraq for at least two or three years, and he was fired for his candor. The Bush administration promised that the U.S. portion of funding to rebuild Iraq would cost 1.7 billion dollars and no more. Now it's been over 150 billion dollars, and Bush is planning on asking Congress for another 70 billion. I absolutely believe that the U.S. at this point has no choice but to stay in Iraq and try its best to pacify it and lead it to peace and democracy, but it's not someplace that we should have been in the first place. Nearly half the country is not under U.S. control right now. It is an incredibly dangerous place to live, and 100 times more so for Westerners, and people will openly plant bombs in broad daylight. It is chaos and anarchy there. People accuse Kerry of betraying America's troops because he spoke against the Vietnam war in his congressional hearings in the early 70s, an image that the Republicans use over and over again in their campaign against him. Nevertheless you never hear the actual speech he gave, unedited, uncensored. He had nothing but the highest of praise for his fellow troops, and all he wanted to do was bring them back home safely from a war that had become unwinnable. But you don't hear that part in the ads for Bush. Meanwhile Bush got his parents to pull strings and get him into the National Air Guard, and never came within 10,000 miles of combat. Zell Miller brought up a number of weapons systems that Kerry voted against, including the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber, the F-14 Tomcat, the F-15 Eagle, the F-16 Falcon, and the M-1 tank. The truth is that the F-14, F-15, F-16, and M-1 were all part of a single bill, a nearly 300 billion dollar defense budget bill for the fiscal year of 1990, of which those weapons systems were a tiny part, and all Kerry did was vote against the bill as a whole, not the individual weapons systems. As for the B-2 bomber, this is a bomber that costs roughly 1 billion dollars a plane. The truth is that it is a white elephant, and many Republicans voted against it too. 22 is simply enough of a plane whose primary mission is to fly around dropping bombs on targets in a nuclear war. Furthermore it is a sub-sonic plane that needs refueling to get it to the other side of a world as it is. This is far from an ideal solution, and 3 of the new proposed attack/light bomber version of the F-22 could do the same damn job for less money and get to their targets a lot faster than a B-2 could. People talk about Clinton's character, and how he cheated on his wife, and smoked a marijuana cigarrette or two. Yet Bush was a fucking coke head who has never responded to direct questions on whether or not he ever did cocaine. At least Clinton fucking admitted his problems when pressed. The Pentagon absolutely did not want to take resources out of Afghanistan, a move that has allowed the real enemy to get away. There are actually many time the number of terrorists in Iraq that there were pre-invasion. Saddam was a butcher and a despot and pure evil, but he absolutely did not want to go up against the U.S. He was much more preoccupied with taking out Iran, a country which he fought for most of the 1980s. Now that we've wasted hundreds of billions of dollars of American taxpayers money, we are no closer to winning the war on terror than we were in 2002, and now that Bush has turned the worldwide sympathy America recieved after 9/11 into worldwide hate, Bush has made the World, and the city I live in, Washington D.C., a much more dangerous place to live in. -SocialistWeasel Posted by: Socialist PissWeasel on October 31, 2004 10:27 PMTell you what--after Kerry wins the election in two days, you guys keep making the brownshirt "rope, tree" garbage. I look forward to your faces when you get a visit from the secret service. Oh, the gay bashing is cute, too. Plant yourself firmly on the wrong side of history, and spend the rest of your life tearing your hear out while the world leaves you in the dust. George.. "One got a multi-million dollar fighter plane and one was found too incompetent to command a speed boat." One was subsequently found unqualified after ditching his required physical, and one managed to save someone's life and get some purple hearts in the bargain. One ran a bunch of businesses into the ground, and one fought to stop a war he (and much of the country) didn't believe in. Last time I read the Constitution, it said that everyone in the country had a right to speak freely no matter how much other people didn't like it. As to releasing his military records, why on earth should he give the red-meat right something else to distort and lie about? Bush keeps dribbling out his records a little bit at a time after they keep "finding" them (are they at the bottom of a shoe box in the garage or something?), so I wouldn't hold him up as a paragon of virtue. I was too young to serve in Vietnam (I was born in 1959), so I don't have the personal perspective of the men and women who served there. I admire them a hell of a lot for the sacrifices they made. So take what I say here with a grain of salt and the hindsight of history. Kennedy and Johnson got us into that mess and Nixon tried to get us out and eventually did. Lots of people died who shouldn't have. We kept not learning the lessons the French had learned, and it cost us a great deal in pain and anger that resonates today. I don't fault Kerry for what he did as an anti-war protester; I don't fault John O'Neill for going after Kerry for what he felt was a slur on those who served in Vietnam. And in the end, it doesn't really matter much. The Vietnam War ended thirty years ago. The big war we're fighting now is the war on terrorists, and it can't be fought the same way we tried to fight Vietnam or the way we successfully fought Iraq twice. The only way to fight terrorism is to kill terrorists and to destroy the places that grow them. And you have to kill them all, like termites or roaches. If Kerry manages to suck up his balls and start killing terrorists (and warlords like the ones protecting bin Laden), I hope you and your friends will change your minds about him. And if he can't, then I will be campaigning for his replacement. But this bullshit about Rope. Tree. Justice. has to stop. Bush is a gomer, and I don't want him picking Supreme Court justices or Ashcroft peeking into my bedroom (I'm a happily married heterosexual, before you start attacking on that line) because neither one of them seem to have any sense of their own fallibility or limitations; they don't even see their mistakes, so they can't correct them. Kerry seems to have learned a few things. Posted by: beerwulf on October 31, 2004 10:44 PMSocialist Pissweasel. You think the Pentagon wanted to take all its resources out of Afghanistan and let Osama get away so they could go after Saddam? The U.S. had Saddam in a box. He hadn't produced any chemical or biological weapons since 1991, and his nuclear program was totally dismantled by 1996. In 1944 we had Hitler in a box, so why did we go ahead and invade at a tremendous cost in US lives? Further, Saddam was in a box of his own liking, and the only reason sanctions were in place even just on paper was that the UN was making too much money starving Iraqi children to death. It's estimated that about $600 billion of our military spending since GW-I was spent maintaining that "box". Would you prefer we spent another $600 billion to accomplish less than nothing? One of the U.S.'s top generals accurately forecast publically that it would take several hundred thousand soldiers occupying Iraq for at least two or three years, and he was fired for his candor. Yet doubling or tripling our troop levels would accomplish what, exactly, other than doubling our tripling the cost? John Kerry is already screaming about spending another $70 billion, but under your plan it would cost what, $140 extra billion? How can you be both for and against spending the money? The Bush administration promised that the U.S. portion of funding to rebuild Iraq would cost 1.7 billion dollars and no more. Incorrect. Read the pre-war spending estimates instead of your DNC talking points. If you dig further, you'll find that the cost of the war has been right in line, year by year, with the pre-war forecasts of the Congressional Budget office. Now it's been over 150 billion dollars, and Bush is planning on asking Congress for another 70 billion. But John Kerry will cut funds to our troops. How nice, eh? And that's your first paragraph in a nutshell. Shall I continue, because the rest is even dumber, and Gen. Tommy Franks would laugh his ass off at your characterization of Afghanistan and moving troops to Iraq. Posted by: George Turner on October 31, 2004 10:45 PMTell you what--after Kerry wins the election in two days, you guys keep making the brownshirt "rope, tree" garbage. I look forward to your faces when you get a visit from the secret service. Real brave when no one knows where you are, eh, fuckhead? Tell you what, chickenshit - how about you come out from behind humping that pet hamster of yours and say that to someone's face if you're such a hot shit? C'mon, let's see whatcha got! One was subsequently found unqualified after ditching his required physical, and one managed to save someone's life and get some purple hearts in the bargain. One didn't bother to maintain his flight status becuase his plane was being phased out towards the end of his stint, and one wrote up his own commendations for Lavender Hearts - two of which have already been proven bogus; the other highly questionable. One ran a bunch of businesses into the ground, and one fought to stop a war he (and much of the country) didn't believe in. One ran businesses; the other has lived off the government dole his entire career. One supports our troops; the other stabs them in the back at every opportunity. One is supported by people like us with grey matter in our heads. One is supported by fuckstains like you with fecal matter in their heads. Last time I read the Constitution, it said that everyone in the country had a right to speak freely no matter how much other people didn't like it. This blog isn't governed by the United States Constitution, asshole. It's private property, and you're about to find that out RSN (Real Soon Now) if you don't STFU. Just because you have the right to dance doesn't mean we're obliged to provide the dance hall. Got it, moron? Oh my!- Got you girls all worked up didn't I? Well you found me. Yes I'm in Vermont right now. In Brattleboro. You have my email address, you know where I live. Since you are the ones who seem so wonderfully in love with the idea of "pounding" one of us "limp-wristed girlie-men"; Come to me, and let's finish this like honorable men. I offer no threats, no boasts. I am here and I await your, any of you who's blood has gotten up over this, reply. P.S. "Dickhandler"??? Come-the-fuck-on, dude!!!!! Ya gotta do better than that!!! Posted by: Lysander on October 31, 2004 10:55 PMMisha, With all sincerity, I take your speech seriously, perhaps more seriously than you do. You are inciting violence. You are fomenting anger. You may not be capable of violence yourself, but I worry about your audience. Please clarify your post. I will be reporting your post to the Phoenix Field Office of the Secret Service. http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/faq.shtml#threat # How can I report a threat towards a protectee? Contact your nearest USSS field office (listed in the "Emergency Numbers" section in the front of most phone books. The Secret Service does not desire or solicit information pertaining to individuals or groups expressing legitimate criticism of, or political opposition to, the policies and decisions of the government of government officials. However, we are interested in legitimate information relating to threats, plans or attempts by individuals, groups or organizations to harm USSS protectees. Posted by: Sad on October 31, 2004 11:03 PMOh my!- Got you girls all worked up didn't I? Well you found me. Yes I'm in Vermont right now. In Brattleboro. That's what I figured. Another pansy-ass teenybopper who's watched too much WWE Smackdown and talks big when hiding behind mommy's fat ass. Did you really think you could fool the adults, punkette? You have my email address, you know where I live. I imagine Bratty Punksville or whereever it is in the state of YEEEARRRRRGH!!! you are is fairly large enough to hide a needle-dicked chickenshit like you, chumpzilla. You, on the other hand, know exactly where I live, so spare us the "you have my address" bullshit. Since you are the ones who seem so wonderfully in love with the idea of "pounding" one of us "limp-wristed girlie-men"; Come to me Last person whom I took up on that hid from me for an entire weekend down in Miami, asswipe. Unless the LCs fund it, I'm not inclined to go chasing after a nancy-boy who's only gonna piss his diapers and run hide. You know where I am, fairy-boy. To quote you - "Want some? Come get some." (guffaw) Sad, look waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back up towards the top of the post for your "clarification". Idiot. Posted by: B.C., Imperial Torturer™ on October 31, 2004 11:13 PMCount... er, Lord Spatula: Here... I'll give you my TrollStick Mk IV® to lay a proper beatdown on this Lysander dude. Just like I laid a good beatdown on Dan Rather with a previous version. (Gives Spatula the TrollStick®) As for Lysander: Be careful what you wish for. Being a good troll is a science. Work on your drill, check your facts, and you'll be very tolerated, if not necessarily liked. Having said that... (lays beatdown on Lysander with broad-side of TrollAxe®; wishes it was Dan Rather) What's the frequency, Kenneth? What's the frequency? Posted by: Jacques Vader on October 31, 2004 11:16 PMIf you chased a guy to Miami, why can't you chase one to Vermont? Do you even know what you are saying? You make threats to me personally and then totally back out of an invitation to settle this, man-to-man. What, you spend your time threatening violence to anyone who disagrees with you while posting on a political chat-room? Then you express a desire to actually fight someone who called you on your chicken-shit hate-speech bluff; And finally you refuse to follow through on your threats when given the perfect opportunity!! You are coward and a liar and you KNOW IT and I know it. And, you KNOW that I KNOW it. You contemptible cowardly pig. Finish what you started. Lysander and Lord Spatula... I know that this is none of my business, but all this bandwidth is being squandered by all that OT bickering. With all due respect, take it offline, please. And Lysander... the endless counts of ones and zeroes that make up any post in this thread draw no more blood than a stroke of a pen or pencil. Hue and cry as much as you want, but remember: too much flaming might cause carpal tunnel problems. Save your energy and think before firing away. And anyways, only Dan Rather didn't survive my "beatdown". You'll live. Posted by: Jacques Vader on October 31, 2004 11:43 PMIf you chased a guy to Miami, why can't you chase one to Vermont? Because, you dumbassed son-of-a-bitch, it requires something called money to come all that way. I realize that, having never had a job in your pathetic, miserable life besides throwing papers, you have no concept of money, but trust me - it's the reason why your mommy didn't buy you more Cabbage Patch™ dolls, even though you screamed for her to. Do you even know what you are saying? You make threats to me personally and then totally back out of an invitation to settle this, man-to-man. You have my exact address, chickenshit. You were the one who said - and I quote: Regardless; Dallas isn't too far... You're just pissed because I called your bluff, then did a little research and found out where and what you really are. You're nothing but a lame-assed fucktard who thinks he can be a big man all the way up there in Brattyville, Vermont while hiding behind his keyboard and pretending that he's some hot shit. You've got a long way to go before you can run with the big dogs here, punk. Try graduating Romper Room first, then maybe you can progress to the New Zoo Revue for a while. What, you spend your time threatening violence to anyone who disagrees with you while posting on a political chat-room? It's not the disagreements I give a flying fuck about, moron. It's your fucking attitude when you come in here thinking you're some Billy-Bob Bad-Ass, when in fact you're little more than a Jerry-Jeff Jerkoff. You were the one who came in here saying - and again, I quote: If you want to do violence to someone, - DO IT TO ME. Consider me a stand in for all us "pussy liberal faggot commie back-stabbing anti-american pacificst's". Seriously. Take a stand, man. Do something. I called your pathetic bluff, and you got pissed and threatened to "make me famous". (Incidentally, Undertaker's back to his Dead Man gimmick - if you're gonna try out for WWE Tough Enough, chumpzilla, at least try to be current and know who your characters are.) To quote you, "The offer still stands. The address is real". All you have to do to shut me up is show up. Shouldn't be a problem for you as long as you can get someone to cover the paper route. Then you express a desire to actually fight someone who called you on your chicken-shit hate-speech bluff; And finally you refuse to follow through on your threats when given the perfect opportunity!! Who's giving whom the opportunity here, fuckstain? Last I checked, all you'd done was post an email address and a town and state. I told you exactly where you can find me. So whose are brass and whose are papier-maché, nancy-boy? You are coward and a liar and you KNOW IT and I know it. And, you KNOW that I KNOW it. You contemptible cowardly pig. Finish what you started. All this bullshit spewed from the comfort of behind your keyboard, somewhere in Brattyville, YEEEEARRRRRRRGH!!!, where no one knows where you are. Yeah, you're a real hero alright. 'Scuse me one moment whilst I ROFLMFAO at you, chickenshit... With all due respect, take it offline, please. Jacques, I'm pretty much done with that particular moron, since he's proven himself to be a northern version of Um Yeah. Besides, this thread is near the bottom of the front page, anyway. If it doesn't shut down before too long, I'll go ahead and close it myself. Thanks. "Rope, tree, justice"... Well- Fucking do it man!! We got a lot of trees up here in Vermont. But if Vermont is too scary for you how about New York City, Jersey, Philly, D.C.? Any of them you redneck faggot! Hell, how about downtown Little Havana since you like Miami so much? What about New Orleans- Got the balls to come to chopper-city? Be careful what you wish for you fucking clone. Yeah, you did give me your address. And you have absolutely no idea who I am...Stupid Fuck. I hope you live forever. "Rope, tree, justice"... Well- Fucking do it man!! We got a lot of trees up here in Vermont. But if Vermont is too scary for you how about New York City, Jersey, Philly, D.C.? Any of them you redneck faggot! Hell, how about downtown Little Havana since you like Miami so much? What about New Orleans- Got the balls to come to chopper-city? Be careful what you wish for you fucking clone blahblahblahblahblahblah... Mhehhehhehhehheh. Will ya just look at the meltdown? (snicker) Looks like I touched a nerve there, Dickhandler. (Or, seeing as I must've come pretty damned close to the truth, judging by your reaction, perhaps it should be "NeedleDickHandler"???) Whatever. You're done here, little boy. Time to go find Mommy and whatever john she's with tonight and let her know she needs to turn off nice Mr. Computer for you. Show her this message. Meanwhile, I'm really laughing my ass off at you now, chump. BWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...!!!!! (snort)
A right who doesn't understand they're being lied to. Who probably couldn't even spell "Ahmed Chalabi," much less understand his role in leading 1,122 American soldiers to senseless deaths in a personal crusade; who froth and flail when asked to explain why the architect of the murder of 3,500 Americans is sitting cozy in Pakistan, making jokes at our expense. A right who would rather hear brave words than honor brave action, who believe the cowboy hat and Texan accent represent the real man, rather than seeing through a facade of bravado and tough talk spun by an alcoholic frat boy propped up by his father's friends. A right who truly believes that all our ills can be attributed to the "Klintoons," rather than opening their eyes and understanding that their Chosen One is a bumbling jackass who has managed to fuck up every major policy of his soon-to-be- Iraq, cast into a terrorist-breeding choas; populated by a people uncertain as to why car-bombs and corrupt, appointed leaders are considered "freedom." Afghanistan, still partly ruled by the Taliban (remember them), elsewise by warlords mouthing friendship - or not even that - while churning out opium and safety for terrorists; while the so-called President of that country is mockingly refered to as the Mayor of Kabul. America, where religious fanaticism is the increasingly tolerated at the expense of tolerance, where flag-waving is seen as a shield against criticism for BLATANT FUCKING INCOMPETENCE, where your vote might not really be counted in 48 hours, where people can simply ... disappear ... determined without charges or evidence to be an enemy of the state, where the incumbent relies on loyalty oaths to determine who can express their opinion. Calling Iraq another "Bay of Pigs" is, indeed, inaccurate. After all, our troops weren't bogged down without a plan in Cuba. "Bogged Down Without A Plan" would come later. And it has come again. I'd like to believe that people aren't stupid enough to actually believe the caricatures of Kerry put out there by the GOP and the Bush campaign, but it looks like gullibility and lap-dog support are alive and well on the right. Posted by: md on November 1, 2004 02:24 AMBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Look at the leftist moonbats dance! A parade of crack smoking chimpanzees waving Kerry/Edwards signs. From pseudo-intellectual asshats like "Kurt" and "Beerwulf" blowing smoke out of their collective backsides to pimple-faced fat kids like "Dickhandler" pretending to be badasses, those morons are the embodiment of left-wing idiocy. The recycled democrat meme mantras being chanted by the Kerry Kool-Aid drinkers demonstrate that desperation and panic has set in. I can already hear the "Howard Dean-like" screams of impotent rage that those clowns will be emitting when "Dubya" is re-elected. Posted by: Elephant Man on November 1, 2004 06:24 AMWhen you are all out looking for terrorists to round up, look in the mirror. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Posted by: David Poplin on November 1, 2004 08:03 AMAnd here's David, shaking his finger and scolding us like some old biddy. Looks like he pegged the metrosexual meter with his "sensitivity". Congratulations! Posted by: Elephant Man on November 1, 2004 08:35 AM"How awesome, a blog written in crayon." Crayon is actually a step up from the norm... usually it's written by spreading feces on a computer screen. Oh wait.. let me help you write your response. "You (gaybashing explative) can go (anatomically impossible act involving animals or parents) yourself! You're a (clever variation of Michael Moore or Hilary Clinton) loving (another gaybashing explative)! You (more on the gay angle here)!! (Gay or bestiality insult)!! (Gaybashing)!! (Silly initials) (Silly name)" Posted by: Young Goodman Brown on November 1, 2004 09:22 AMOh wait.. let me help you write your response. Nah, that's okay. Wouldn't want you to overtax that one brain cell of yours. (Silly initials) (Silly name) This from a fuckface calling himself "Young Goodman Brown"? (snicker) [I can ban as many address as I need to, fuckface. You're going away for a while, and there's scant little you can do about it. Thanks for the Actus interuptous... We put up with Clinton for 8 years so I doubt many LCs will flip out if we loose. You know, i'm not even american and I won't be voting but... You guys are fucked. You have no factual basis to stand on, so instead you throw out baseless allegations and use smearing words similar to the way a couple of 10 year olds would settle a school ground arguement. You do religious, right wing, backwards idiots much justice. Posted by: you're all fucked up on November 1, 2004 11:53 AMYou guys are such idiots! Since you all have you tighty whities stuck even further up than usual I have a suggestion: when Kerry cleans c-plus augustus' clock tomorrow why don't you all move out of the country? Go to Mexico or Haiti or somewhere where your vile crap might be appreciated. If you stay here and continue with all your angst and whining I will be forced to open a can of whup ass on each and every one of you. Keyboard heroes are you all - NOT!! Posted by: Kerry is King on November 1, 2004 01:40 PMThe lefts acting, like coke crazed Peccaries in a feeding frenzy. Thanks, Neil. I needed a good laugh after reading the craven snivelings of Lies'ndander Oh, and now comes another one, All Fucked Up on Isn't it amazing how young, shiftless, arrogant do nothings of no particular accomplishment, skill or knowledge can be so outraged and officious? Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on November 1, 2004 01:56 PMI will be forced to open a can of whup ass on each and every one of you. Bring it, motherfucker. All you fakirs ever do is post your little bravado and disappear, just like Lies'ndander up above. I'm so sick of you leftist bastards trying to undo this country I could scream. Be a great release to just kick your fucking ass till your nose bleeds. Just tell me when your coming to Springfield, Mo, cockswallower. I'll be waitng to see that thimble full of whupass you'll be opening up on me. Bwaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you really want a king, which is exactly how Kerry would prefer to think of himself, you're the one who needs a new country, asswipe. Since the Pube-lik Skools have done such a fine job of not educating you, Sonny, I'll take the Liberty of informing you that this country was founded upon the rejection of monarchy and the establishment of a constitutional REPUBLIC, not an anti constitutional democrat-cy. Death to the Left. Posted by: LC Jon , Imperial Hunter on November 1, 2004 02:07 PMThis comments thread has turned into some kind of leftist moonbat/monkey house. It's hilarious to prod them into fits of screaming rage or self-righteous bleats of outrage. They're shrieking and squawking like they've got their shriveled little units stuck in a beehive. The best part is that Kerry hasn't even lost yet. When these socialist moonbats realize they've lost, their collective meltdown will be quite a circus. Then the real fun will begin. Posted by: Elephant Man on November 1, 2004 03:42 PMAhhhhhh The true face of conservatism revealed. See you in the tabloids when your arrested. And a warning dumbasses. If any of you harm any member of the Kerry Administration you will guarantee us 16 years of Democratic Presidents as well as the Congress and the Senate. We will tar and feather the GOP as the party of violence and hate for taken one of our warriors, and we will make it stick. We are never gonna let the conservatives "be our daddy" again. We've learned how you will dissect us alive if we let you win power. Your hits and cuts have hardened our skins. We will fight in Ohio and Florida Attention anonymous cretin. Posting anonymously does not hide your identity or wherabouts. As I type this comment, Mr. Rove has given instructions to the Halliburton trained Flying Monkey Minions to gather at your location and "deal" with you. The G.O.P. will not be stopped by you or any of your feathered-brained companions. Upon our victory, domination of America by the freedom loving Republicans will be assured and the leftist fringe democrats will be tossed into the dustbin of history! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Best wishs, At the very sight of Ashcroft's name, the paranoid, shrieking, leftist moonbats scurry away like cockroaches. For good reason, thanks to the Patriot Act. Like an evil, black-hearted Kris Kringle, HE knows when you are sleeping! HE knows when you're awake! *guffaw* Posted by: Elephant Man on November 1, 2004 05:31 PMWe will defeat the minions of hate where they hide in their TV, Radio and newspapers. Then you'd best get ready to die - 'cause if you try fighting us, we're going to royally kick your pathetic asses. Bank on that. Wow... not even one slur exposing me for the limp-wristed fagtard i am. Good for you. Was that my fist up my ass? Posted by: Young Goodman Brown on November 1, 2004 08:20 PMDear Lord Spatula (and that elephant guy tool-) "...Bank on that..." You are a dip-shit. No wonder you support this jack-ass President because you can't even tell when somebody insults your honor and calls you a coward. Given a number of chances to respond to me personally, offline, by email, you have NOT. You're a fucking coward and deserve all the ridicule that you have no-doubt suffered while growing up without a spine. All you little John O'Neil's won't be getting anymore ego-stroking come tomorrow. Learn to swim, scumbag. Best Regards- Lysander Posted by: Lysander on November 1, 2004 11:45 PMWas that my fist up my ass? No, I don't think so. With a pompous, pretentious handle like "Young Goodman Brown", it's most likely your head. Posted by: Elephant Man on November 2, 2004 04:26 AMLooks like Lysander is throwing quite a temper tantrum. I think he's actually crying. Grow up, little boy. It's been fun making you dance and shriek like crack smoking chimpanzee but now you're boring and irrelevent. You've got nothing so I'm finished with you. Go back to sucking your momma's tit. It'll make you feel better. And for God's sake stop whimpering and be a man. Posted by: Elephant Man on November 2, 2004 04:39 AM"igronant"? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Being dropped on your head numerous times as an infant sure took its toll on you, didn't it? If I was as as pathetically stupid as you, I'd wouldn't post a name or handle either. Don't feel bad. Now you get to suck on four more years of "Dubya" and there's nothing you can do about it. Posted by: Elephant Man on November 3, 2004 08:44 AM Dear Lord Spatula (and that elephant guy tool-) Oh, you hear that, E-man? Little Lord Fauntleroy here thinks we're tools!!! How ever can we stand the ignominy?!?!?! You are a dip-shit. No wonder you support this jack-ass President because you can't even tell when somebody insults your honor and calls you a coward. Oh, I know when someone calls me a coward, all right, Short Bus. Considering the source - a snot-nosed little brat who hides behind his mommy's skirt in Brattyville, YEEEEEEARRRRRRRGH!!! - I frankly don't give a fat rat's ass what you think. Believe me - when I do, your broken jaw will be the first to know. (snicker) Given a number of chances to respond to me personally, offline, by email I tried your email, chickenshit, and it bounced. And I have better things to do than to chase your yellow ass all over email domains. So I've responded here. You may not like being given wedgie after wedgie in front of adults who are laughing their asses off at you - but that's really not my problem. You're a fucking coward and deserve all the ridicule that you have no-doubt suffered while growing up without a spine. All you little John O'Neil's won't be getting anymore ego-stroking come tomorrow. They don't really need to, fuckface. They accomplished their mission - your butt-buddy Qetchup-@$$ LOST. Just in case you hadn't heard. (chuckle) Learn to swim, scumbag. Already know how, little boy. What, do you need help learning something other than the dog paddle??? (guffaw) Just checked back in to the gaybashing festival... I'm not surprised to see that i'm actually too spineless to come out from giving my mommy a rim job. You truly are a little chickenshit coward. Posted by: Young Goodman Brown on November 3, 2004 08:31 PMYou truly are a little chickenshit coward. Real brave calling me that while you're hiding behind your mommy's fat ass, aren't you, nancy-boy? 5330 Bent Tree Forest Dr,#712 Anytime you wanna try calling me that to my face - that is to say, whenever your 'nads grow past the size of pinheads - then look me up, limp-wrist. C'mon, hotshot, let's see whatcha got! I see that "Young Goodman Brown" (What kind of effete, simpering, pseudo-intellectual asshelmet would come up with a handle like that?) is quite "sensitive" about alleged "gay bashing". We're engaged in mindless, leftist, Kerry sycophant, moonbat troll bashing. We are laughing and ridiculing your insipid comments and your leftist moonbat politics. Flaunting your homosexuality while you sling personal insults at us makes your makes your sexual preference "fair game". Otherwise, we personally could care less that you're enamoured with penises and the male ass. Posted by: Elephant Man on November 4, 2004 07:32 AMHey Spats! I'd bet that "Young Goodman" is Lysander's *ahem* life partner taking up for him since Dickhandler is cowering in the basement in a whimpering, drooling state of fear and rage. Given the humiliation we heaped on Dickhandler, he probably can't live up to his "name" and "Young Goodman" is getting all "fwusterated". It's not a total loss for "Young Goodman". If he wants to cram something in his mouth, he could always suck on four more years of "Dubya". (This is too easy. It's like poking a "politically correct" chimpanzee with a cattle prod) Posted by: Elephant Man on November 4, 2004 07:44 AMPost a comment
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