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Nostradamus quatrain 10.72 - deception and fulfillment
http://www.google.com/search?q=quatrain+10.72+fulfilled&meta= ^ | February 02, 2005 | Self

Posted on 02/02/2005 6:53:25 AM PST by Truth666

Nostradamus success

Most people have heard of Nostradamus, the 16th century “prophet” who was able to “see into the future.”Almost 500 years after his death, Nostradamus´s books are STILL selling, so there are plenty of people who must think Nostradamus was on to something. 

Never before in the History of Mankind did so many people expected the furfillment of a prophecy at a given moment as in the month of July 1999, the solar eclipse of August 11, 1999 and the end of the millenium. 

Nostradamus Prophecies comprise the only piece of literature other than the Bible that has  been continuously in print since 1555.

How Nostradamus did it

All quatrains except 10.72

But how did Nostradamus do it? How could he predict the future? It´s actually pretty easy once you understand what he was doing. 

First of all, using one of basic brainwash techniques. The same technique used for example by astrology: a combination of suggestion (THE basic brainwash technique), cryptic description and known facts.

He simply wrote everything in the form of cryptic four line poems (Quatrains)  and let people interpret them after something happened. Here´s an example of one of these poems that some people believe foretells the rise of Hitler…

"Beasts ferocious with hunger will cross the rivers,
The greater part of the battlefield will be against Hister.
Into a cage of iron will the great one be drawn,
When the child of Germany observes nothing."

Now your first impulse after looking at that may be "Histler, Germany, battlefield? Holy moly, he just predicted the Third Reich!" Well "Histler" actually was a region near the Danube river. Beyond that, what else do we have here except a bunch of randomly throw together sentences that could be interpreted a dozen different ways? After the fact, it´s easy to pick one passage out of hundreds in an attempt to prove Nostradamus´s prescience. But look at it like this; could anyone have predicted the rise of Hitler, in say 1920, based on what Nostradamus wrote? Of course, that wouldn´t have been possible. All of Nostradamus's prophecies (except Quatraine 10.72) are meaningless until something has actually happened and you can look at Nostradamus's words retrospectively.

The success of Nostradamus deception reflects the state of the society

Anyone not brainwashed should be able to figure after spending 10 minutes perusing his material.

In order to measure the intensity of brainwash under which a society is and how brainwashed that society is, a good unit is the degree of success of such techniques. Just look at how much horoscopes you find (is there any MSM women magazine without them?) and how many people (especially women) read them ...

The denial of God's intervention reflects the state of the society

Quatraine 10.72 - How Nostradamus did it

This is the only exception to the golden rule of the deception technique described above. A precise date is given: the seventh month of 1999, i.e. anywhere from July 14 through 13 August 1999 in the gregorian calendar that was introduced after Nostradamus wrote

"In the year 1999 and seven months,
From the sky will come a great King of terror.
The great king of Angoumois will be resuscitated
,
Before and after Mars reigns by good fortune."

Four known observations and facts caused Nostradamus in this case to risk giving a precise date: 

Prophecy becomes reality ...

At first sight it seems incredible that Quatrain 10.72, the only prediction that Nostradamus ever risked, became true.

In face of the extreme degree of brainwash and the great expectations associated with this prophecy, how can you be surprised that God intervened one more time to help humans, to let the prophecy fulfill in the time frame specified?

... and yet nobody wanted to see it

Still before the end of the millenium, it should be clear how the prophecy was fulfilled. And yet, even today, five and a half years later, I realised that there's still no comprehensive explanation of these events, as you can check for instance with the google search used as URL  to this article.


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: KOOLAID; NOSTRADAMUS
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That's why I wrote this. This said, I'm sure it will not be long before a freeper explains how God intervened to let the prophecy fulfill.
1 posted on 02/02/2005 6:53:25 AM PST by Truth666
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To: Truth666; MeekOneGOP
yadda-yadda-yadda

blah-blah-blah

2 posted on 02/02/2005 6:58:05 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine!)
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To: Truth666
Phantom Lord's Quatrain 3.17:

The sun will rise
The air will warm
The sun will set
The air will cool

3 posted on 02/02/2005 6:59:16 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Truth666

Many of Notradamus' predictions were written after the event.


4 posted on 02/02/2005 7:00:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

I dont know,he predicted my hangnail


5 posted on 02/02/2005 7:01:51 AM PST by woofie
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To: Zacs Mom

Aw! A bunny with a puppy AND a pancake on its head.

Such riches so early in the day!


6 posted on 02/02/2005 7:02:36 AM PST by OpusatFR (All Your Executive, Legislative and Judicial Branches are belong to us.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Some days are good

some not so good


7 posted on 02/02/2005 7:02:52 AM PST by woofie
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To: Zacs Mom

Nostradumbass


8 posted on 02/02/2005 7:04:05 AM PST by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: woofie

A thread will beginnst among others;
Aunt Jemima will bow to the hare.
Aw geez not the moose again.
Moderation is called for the Ad Men.


9 posted on 02/02/2005 7:05:02 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Truth666

But other than astronomical events what is predicted. I've always prefered the spy interpretation of Nostrodamus, that his quatrains fall into two categories: cover BS, coded messages for assassinations by the opposition in an ongoing royalty skirmish in France.


10 posted on 02/02/2005 7:06:21 AM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: woofie
Some rainy days
Some sunny days
Some wet days
Some dry days
11 posted on 02/02/2005 7:06:42 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Truth666

12 posted on 02/02/2005 7:07:47 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: Truth666

ok, who's the King of Terror?


13 posted on 02/02/2005 7:08:00 AM PST by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: Truth666
Dainbramagous Quatranus 1 of 1

Friday

Beer

Home late

Wife p.o.'d keep hands off.

14 posted on 02/02/2005 7:08:02 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

LOL


15 posted on 02/02/2005 7:12:06 AM PST by �udda�udd (7 days - 7 ways (but you must follow the instructions carefully))
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To: �udda�udd
I can only predict fridays.
16 posted on 02/02/2005 7:15:23 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Truth666

Is "Groundhog Day" becoming the new "April Fools Day"?


17 posted on 02/02/2005 7:17:07 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Truth666
Seriously dude, you need some outside activities...

Join a bowling league or a freakin' softball team or something.

You have way too much time on your hands. IMO
18 posted on 02/02/2005 7:17:59 AM PST by Pookyhead
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To: Truth666
so there are plenty of people who must think Nostradamus was on to something
19 posted on 02/02/2005 7:20:00 AM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Truth666

You know, I once read through Nostradamus just to see. I find it funny that he is held up as a great prophet because he just wrote random stuff that is so general in can be applied just about anywhere.

10.72 predicting a solar eclipse, you know that they could do the math back then. There were tables of eclipses already published.


20 posted on 02/02/2005 7:25:30 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Truth666

I'm John Kerry and I approve of this message.

Nostradamus - faithfully flipflopping since the 11th century (or whenever he wrote his treatise on waffling)


21 posted on 02/02/2005 7:30:04 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: DainBramage

Thats pretty good. I foresee similar events for me this saturday night.(my b-day events)


22 posted on 02/02/2005 7:32:56 AM PST by �udda�udd (7 days - 7 ways (but you must follow the instructions carefully))
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To: DainBramage

23 posted on 02/02/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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To: Truth666

nostro-dumass was french, nuf said.


24 posted on 02/02/2005 7:38:11 AM PST by RolandBurnam
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To: Truth666

Did Nostradamus predict this major event?
25 posted on 02/02/2005 7:52:44 AM PST by mnehrling (Fear leads to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the DNC.)
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To: Truth666

I'm not sure what kind of King of Terror came from the sky in 1999. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure if anything happened in 1999 that could be remotely related to this prophecy...can someone explain it to me!


26 posted on 02/02/2005 7:54:03 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: mnehrling
Is that the IHOP Chihuahua?
27 posted on 02/02/2005 8:02:14 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: Truth666
You sir, are a strange one. Not meant as a "slam", because some geniuses throughout history were quite strange. Not sure if you fit into that category though.

You criticize (rightfully, imo) those who ascribe some "mystical" status to Nostradamus, because each one of his "prophecies" aren't really "understood" until AFTER they happen. That's right, I agree. The language in his quatrains are so vague as to not be interpretable until after something happens that SEEMS to fit the event.

Yet, then you go onto say that, "At first sight it seems incredible that Quatrain 10.72, the only prediction that Nostradamus ever risked, became true. "

Then you present as evidence of this a Google search that shows some websites claiming Putin and/or Clinton was this "Great King of Terror". (?)

Why would you do that? You're clearly doing what you criticize others of doing with "Hitler and Hister" earlier in your post! You're just inserting some world event or leader into the vague prophecy AFTER the fact, claiming it as proof! Or ARE you?

Basically my question to you is: what is the point of this post here? Do you, or don't you believe that Nostradamus was a nut and/or fake?

And btw, the eclipse was easily predictable back then. In the 16th century, the time table of eclipses was well known up to and including the 20th century. So that's hardly "proof" of any mystical knowledge.
28 posted on 02/02/2005 8:03:23 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Nataku X
ok, who's the King of Terror?

In the early 80s, everybody thought that meant Khadafi, and that he would nuke Yew York due to another quatrain. Later, people used this same quatrain to say Nostradamus was talking about 9/11 and Osama.

29 posted on 02/02/2005 8:04:39 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

sting was the king of pain


30 posted on 02/02/2005 8:13:50 AM PST by job ("God is not dead nor doth He sleep")
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To: Truth666
"And, in those Dark Times,
there shall come to the people
a dog among dogs,

a dog from on high,
a dog that shall rule them with
a cloak that is pink . . ."






31 posted on 02/02/2005 8:20:02 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Truth666
I predict that any Nostradamus threads will be some of the funniest threads on FR.

O.K., now the Great Randy owes me $1 million.

32 posted on 02/02/2005 8:34:00 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: Truth666
And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base, that has an attachment they will not be there. At this time a friend shall lose his friends's hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before ...


33 posted on 02/02/2005 8:35:53 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: Nataku X; mdmathis6
some help

L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
Du ciel viendra un gran Roy d'effrayeur.
Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

The expression 'du ciel' means 'of/from heaven' or 'of/from the sky'.
No wonder the usual translation associates "A king of terror" with the sky and not with heaven ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22From+heaven+will+come+a+great+King+of+terror%22 - 725 results

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22From+the+sky+will+come+a+great+King+of+terror%22 - 9 results
but again, that's the effect of suggestion. To start with, people don't come / are not sent from the sky ...

34 posted on 02/02/2005 8:44:05 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yew York

The official evergreen of a borough in England? ;-)

35 posted on 02/02/2005 8:51:14 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Semper Paratus
"Is "Groundhog Day" becoming the new "April Fools Day"?"

Is that a prediction or just a comment oh great one. :-)

36 posted on 02/02/2005 9:03:50 AM PST by #1CTYankee (Tagline? what can I possibly say,,,, How about old cars with massive engines RULE!!!!)
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To: theFIRMbss

A nice picture of Paris Hilton and her hairless Tinker Bell!


37 posted on 02/02/2005 9:10:55 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: mdmathis6

Toon arrived somewhere by plane?


38 posted on 02/02/2005 10:28:10 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: sam_paine

You owe me a keyboard... and a fresh cup of coffee.


39 posted on 02/02/2005 10:33:31 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Truth666
Reminder for the purpose of completeness (no problem finding this information with google).
Since Ericka Cheetham, The Man Who Saw Tomorrow: The Prophecies of Nostradamus, History’s Greatest Psychic (New York: Berkeley Books, 1973):
"Angolmois" was believed to be an anagram of Mongolois (the Mongols) which, historically, could be interpreted as a reference to East, Central Asia, Genghis Khan, etc
Nostradamus used it as part of the cryptic technique explained above - a door to be used for any interpretations.
40 posted on 02/02/2005 10:38:08 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666
Hatred-Powered Howard
Will lead a party of lamesters
The follow him like lemmings
Off of nearest cliff
41 posted on 02/02/2005 10:46:33 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The Khmer Rouge never captured anybody's doll. - Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Truth666
I was hoping that someone would pose intelligent questions, like about (d')effrayeur
42 posted on 02/02/2005 5:25:09 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666
... or  like about Mars
43 posted on 02/02/2005 5:46:39 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666

"At first sight it seems incredible that Quatrain 10.72, the only prediction that Nostradamus ever risked, became true."

I see no prediction by Nostryl with 10.72.

What exactly did the charlatan predict?


44 posted on 02/02/2005 7:52:42 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (There is more to life than "the party." Please visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: TheBrotherhood

See above. 10.72 = Century X, Quatrain 72


45 posted on 02/03/2005 5:21:55 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666
Let's check what the current situation in this thread is:
I presented, for each cryptic word,
- what Nostradamus meant
- the main interpretations for those words presented to the masses, while they waited for the 1999 events to unfold
46 posted on 02/03/2005 6:10:34 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666
I can add that no matter which of these interpretations you take, what I said holds:  the only prediction that the fraud known as Nostradamus risked was fullfilled.

And I'm still waiting for someone to explain how. I thought it would not be so difficult...

47 posted on 02/03/2005 6:17:47 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666
Result - These are the possible english translations:

The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven [ month / months ],
From [ the sky / heaven ] there will come a great King [ of fright / who chases away fright]:
To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
Before after [ Mars / March ] to reign by good luck.


48 posted on 02/03/2005 7:15:29 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666
And this is what most of the people got as translation

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.


49 posted on 02/03/2005 7:20:29 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Zacs Mom

Hum...


50 posted on 02/03/2005 7:59:08 PM PST by Studebaker Hawk (Let's be seious: Who do you gonna believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?)
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