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War and Late-Boomers
Which war, conflict or international tantrum (besides Afghanistan) do you believe had the most impact on the Late Boomer psyche?
The 6 Day War
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Q:Do you think the bitterness and anger from Late Boomers will occur with Late Xers? Hi, I've been reading up on generational sites for the last couple of years, and one thing I have noticed repeatedly is a lot of intense bitterness and boiling anger from those born in the "late Boomer" years. I was born in 1975, so I am not a Boomer, though I think I can understand the bitterness that Late Boomers have, it's something that the typical early and middle Boomer doesn't seem to display. I don't know if I'm a middle of the pack Xer, or a late Xer, but do you guys think this same thing will happen to late Xers? Often times I find myself disliking these kids born in the '80s. Many of them, especially those born in the early '80s, are my peers, but talking to them it feels like I'm 20 years older then them, not 4-7 years older. They feel like another generation to me, and I suspect when the term "Generation Xer" becomes more of an insult refering to anyone over 35, rather then a cool label, many Late Xers will develop the same bitterness that Late Boomers have. Heck, I even had an argument with a guy just 4 years younger then me, maybey even less about when the '80s ended and the '90s began. It could easily have been an argument between some born in 1959 and 1955 about the '60s-'70s. More things change, the more they stay the same it appears.
John M
A:John, You've made an astute observation. I personally believe that the rift you describe within "generations" comes from having labels affixed to groups by outside parties that would not self identify as a cohesive generation or cohort. Identity is psychologically important as the most intimate of constructs to the individual. Identity is a similary personal conscept for social groups. To have identity forced upon one is distressing and possibly harmfully. This probably speaks to why some of the later born in generations become angry or bitter. I hope that with this site some of the bitterness will dissipate and we can just be proud of who we are, confront unfair stereotypes, and celebrate out achievements. Thanks for an excellent question John. Nancy
Q:I was born in 1967, am I a boomer?
A:Hi Jim, "Officially" you are not a Boomer, I'm sorry to have to break such sad news to you. According to the U.S Government the Baby Boom began in 1946 and ended in 1964. But you are more than welcome to join the ranks of Honorary Late Boomers and Late Boomer Lovers! Like all else in life... it is mostly attitude. Nancy
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Boomers' Unique Take on Patriotism and Military Service
by Nancy Hill

There is a disconcerting feeling floating amongst many of the extremely lucky American Citizens I've spoken to recently who were born in the late 50s and early 60s. War for the most part skipped right over us. That is not to say that none of us served in the armed forced. Many did. It is not to say that war has not raged and been reported nightly during our early lives changing to 24 hour coverage during our early adult lives. But we escaped the draft. Now we realize we are not so lucky. We may have to ask our sons and daughters, and nieces and nephews to volunteer to be willing to sacrifice their lives for our country when we never had to face such possible destinies.

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Patriotism runs deep in our numbers. We remember Kent State, but we also remember Madison. We remember our older brothers and the older brothers of friends who came home from Vietnam. Some returned in boxes, the lucky ones just came home although worse for the psychological wear. We saw all the sides of our elder brothers and sisters adventures in the late 60s and early 70s. But I don't think we seriously considered that we might have to send our children to war. We grew up under the gray cloud of the cold war. We naively thought any war we would see would last 30 minutes and destroy all life on the Earth within 30 months of the war. Things rarely turn out to be so black and white.

Now we're all grown up. We're getting ready to enter the phase of of our lives where we will take over most of the powerful positions in our governments, businesses, and lead the world during what may be some of the toughest times since the Great Depression. And for the most part we're going to have to do this without military background or training.

It might be time to bone up on some military concepts. This is not just refresher time for guys either. Women of most generations learn about first hand military experience through their boyfriends and husbands. Late Booming Women didn't. I should mention here that I in no way intend to disparage the brave women who have participated in every war ever fought either in official or unofficial capacity. We've been on the front lines, in the hospitals, comforting the wounded and dying, and of course preparing the bodies of the dead. I'm recommending the following resources to get us all up to speed.

Janes has been the military source book for decades whether you are looking for information on 1940s military destroyers or whether you want to find out what cutting edge technologies you will be hearing lots about in the next few weeks. For the later example, check out an article from Janes entitled Prototype technologies could be useful for strikes" by Nick Cook.

In general if you want to get up to speed on terrorism in the modern world I recommend The Political Terrorism Database. It breaks the topic down into aspects of terrorism as well as by country or world area. This site also has an very good coverage of September 2001 events if you go to the "America's Homeland Attacked section as it references multiple sources with several perspectives on the developing war or campaign against terrorism led by the USA.

If you are in search of almost anything related to the US military whether it be current military information such as what reserves have been activated, or what is being publicly discussed about likely topices, the locations of civil war battlefields, or VA forms, is your ticket. A vast informational resource.

Want to make sure your views of current events tow the party line, whatever party it may be? Check below. Any way... check out these sites for takes on current affairs from major and minor US political parties. Hold it, isn't that supposed to work the other way around? I mean aren't parties supposed to help consolidate representation ofthe people, by the people and for the people? If you want to let your elected officials know about what your views on specific issues, DO SO! Okay, I admit that clicking on the last link will take you to a feminist site. (Like you couldn't tell my views on this!) but it really is the niftiest "enter your zipcode & get info on how to contact your representatives" form I've found. The pictures of the primary reps really help a lot of people, too.

Democratic Party
Republican Party
Green Party
Feminists (Okay, okay, I know these folks aren't a "real" political party... but lot's of women go here for information!)
Want info on a political party that is not listed above? Click here.

The National Political Index site is also very good if you haven't found what you are looking for.

Now if you are looking for a more international flavor of opinion on military actions and current events, check out the UN Daily Briefing page or the Recent Additions page. For a more global military perspective check out NATO. Here you can also find out more about what Article 5 of the Washington Treaty really is.

And lastly, brushing up on your geography might not be such a bad idea either. For Afghanistan, I personally like the orientation provided by elevation maps. But political. and shaded relief maps are better understood by others. If you have other geographic needs that haven't been met, you might want to try Western Connecticut State University Department of Social Sciences site which has an excellent list of references that seems to be regularly updated and corrected.

And one final recommendation. If you are looking for factual statistical information centered on US concerns, start with Fed Stats. The information is there. If you can't find it, I suggest you contact your local public library and ask to speak to the government documents librarian.


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