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The Poultry King
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:43 am    Post subject: WHY?!?!?! Failed Reality Check! Reply with quote

Hi everyone, I'm new here, just signed up to ask this one question: Why did my reality check fail?

You see, I was dreaming about, some how, being able to leave your body and visit heaven, just for a little while, why not? Then as I left my body I thought, hey, there's no way I could have left my body. I must have just fallen asleep! So I thought hmm, I should do a reality check. I flipped on a light switch, it worked. I read something, then re-read it a couple times, it remained the same. I burnt myself with fire by accident, and it hurt! I put my hand on a wall, but not through it. I tried to communicate with a cup (which I think I subconsciously conjured up by thinking about talking to inanimate objects in my dream) and it didn't respond. After a while, I guess I kind of just went with the flow of the dream. I had no control of anything; and the reality check came out positive for some reason. I thought nothing of it, until I woke up, went to write down my dream, and it hit me. I finally had a lucid dream, but I thought it was fake. grrr I can't believe that. I hope I'm closer to having a real one though.

The one thing I am glad that worked was reading and knowing so much about lucid dreams. So the second I even thought of the word "dream" I started doing reality checks without thinking about it. I felt it too, I was so close.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum. smile

It does sound rather odd that none of your reality checks provided any indication that you were dreaming. The fact that you kept doing them seems to imply that you knew that you were dreaming, but felt that you had to verify it before you could continue. To me, it's not so much the reality check itself that kicks off a lucid dream. Usually just the thought that I might be dreaming is enough to trigger an awareness. RC or not, I'm always confident beyond a doubt that I'm in a dream, just because there's a general feeling that's unlike waking life. Also, the situation within the dream, and fact that I can't recall how I got there both affirm my suspicions.

Maybe you shouldn't rely so much on traditional reality checks after already realizing that you're probably dreaming. Stop and think about how you got where you are, and look around the immediate area to find tell-tale signs that it isn't real. Most dream environments that are based on real-life places will be at least slightly inconsistent, perhaps in terms of layout, or scale.

It certainly sounds like you're very close to having a lucid dream (topic is obviously on your mind subconsciously). Feel free to ask any other questions, and I hope you decide to continue posting here.

Good luck. smile

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I think I figured that little experience out. First off, I think it was just a very weak lucid dream, I knew I was dreaming, that's why I did the checks. However, I think I was able to control what I was checking. I wanted the light to turn on when I flipped the switch, so it did. I wanted to think that I was re-reading the same thing (for all I knew, it was all gibberish, I just remember the "feeling" of re-reading the same thing) so my dream said I was. And I guess I just wanted everything to be normal subconsciously for some reason. I didn't want to look like a fool if it was real life. It was a very "foggy" dreaming experience if you know what I mean. Everything wasn't crisp and clear. When I looked at the cup, that's all I could see, the cup. It wasn't detailed at all.

By the way, you are right. I need to learn, that if I think it's a dream, then it is a dream. I need to take control, show the dream who's boss. I guess I can practice that by taking control of things in real life first, and try to stay on top of everything. Hopefully it will carry on into my dream.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try other reality checks that take less time. Like counting your fingers or holding your nose or closing one eye and seeing if you can see your nose etc. This take alot less time, and you could probally shoot through all three in about five seconds (infact, I just did it in less...).

Try and find a RC that works for you - that emans try as many as you can. I think (I'm quite new too...I just post a fair amount...) eh.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you answered your own question. If you are seriously questioning weather or not you are dreaming, you are. I never become lucid because of a failed RC. I just realize it is a dream then I will do a RC confirming what I know to be true. I don’t know why I do that, it is a habit I got into. My RC are always something that is impossible to do in real life. Don’t worry you will become more intune with your dream state in time and you will get more and better LD’s. just don’t give up. You are getting there.

Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to hearing about your future successes.

Happy Dreaming

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: WHY?!?!?! Failed Reality Check! Reply with quote

The Poultry King wrote:
I tried to communicate with a cup. . .


I don't know what it was, but I just started cracking up when I read that line. Good luck with your LDs and welcome to the forum.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha. Yeah, I didn't realize how that sounded until you quoted me on it.

Well, once again I had a dream in which I thought of dreaming. I was attempting the WBTB technique (but forgot to turn my alarm on after I set it) so I guess that somehow snuck into my dream. Anyway, I only have a very fuzzy recollection of that part of the dream. I just remember being in my bed and I kept saying "LD, LD, LD" (not "lucid dream" but literally LD. That's how I know I was dreaming this) in my head until I got to sleep. I guess after that little experience my mind just shifted and I started dreaming about something else. I'm so close to getting a LD I can taste it. I've only had one as a kid before I even knew they were called lucid dreams. All I did was doggy paddle in mid-air with a couple of kids I met in my dream. Then I went into a dark shed and I woke up. Ever since then I have always wanted to be able to dream and know I'm dreaming.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold your nose and try to breathe through it. it's called the hold-nose RC. Works every time. It is such a weird feeling it knocks up the clarity too.

Did i tell you the hold-nose RC rocks? wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheesh you make a post about not having any reality check work for you and instead having to use dreamsigns and it gets deleted.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could try and give yourself a suggestion that you will wake up in the middle of the night just as you are going to sleep. I know this has worked for me in the past. I would just wake up in the night and very often after a dream. No alarm clock needed. Another thing I found helpful with DILD is to tell yourself that you will realize you are dreaming while dreaming. Repeating that over several times as you are going to sleep.

good luck and happy dreaming

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the usefull tips. I didn't know about the holding nose RC. I will try that. What's weird about waking up in the middle of the night though, is it won't work if I tell myself I need it. Ever since I've been keeping a DJ I will wake up in the middle of the night, for no reason, and my dream seems to continue though. Then when I wanted to experiment by waking myself up, I sleep in until 1:00 pm. Weird.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried the falling backwards in your dream from EWLD. That might work for you as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, what happens if you try to fall backwards?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't knowe about you or LaBerge, but I'd probally wake up...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don’t fall backwards in your dream.

If you wake right from a dream in the middle of the night you don’t move. In stead just lay still and imagine the dream you just left in your head. You keep replaying it over and over as you fall back to sleep. According to Labarge you will often find yourself back in the dream you just left hopefully lucid “falling back into the dream”. I have not used this technique my self just read about it. But something you mentioned just made me think it might work for you so I thought I would mention it. (I guess I was sort of thinking out loud)

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