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« Thread Started on Nov 25, 2005, 11:09am »

Welcome to The Wikipedia Review!

Use this message board to share any negative experiences you've had with the Wikipedia online encyclopedia.

You may post here anonymously, though you are encouraged to open an account. Opening an account is free, takes just a few minutes, and will simplify posting messages here. It will also allow you to vote in polls, which you may not do anonymously. All you need to open an account is a valid e-mail address.

Any suggestions for improvement should be posted under this thread or sent as a private message to yours truly.

Let the flames begin!
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« Reply #1 on Nov 30, 2005, 1:00pm »

since when word 'review' implies negative-only experiences? :)
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« Reply #2 on Dec 1, 2005, 3:03am »


Nov 30, 2005, 1:00pm, blah wrote:
since when word 'review' implies negative-only experiences? :)


I wanted to call it "Wikipedia Watch" or even "Wikipedia Sucks" but both of those were taken. "The Wikipedia Review" sounds classier anyways.

Feel free to post any positive experiences you've had at Wikipedia, though you might get flamed for it. ;D
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« Reply #3 on Dec 2, 2005, 2:04am »


Nov 25, 2005, 11:09am, Igor Alexander wrote:
Welcome to The Wikipedia Review!


Thank you! I feel welcomed already? What is it you guys have against good ideas?
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« Reply #4 on Dec 2, 2005, 5:12am »


Dec 2, 2005, 2:04am, Bonginator wrote:
What is it you guys have against good ideas?


Good ideas such as?
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« Reply #5 on Dec 5, 2005, 3:30am »

I've had a not-so-bad, but completely inaccurate, experience with Wikipedia. They list me as a famous person from a listed community. I'm neither famous, nor from the community in question. It's nothing nasty, just my name in a list of entertainers, some of whom are actually quite famous. I'm assuming that this means I have an admirer/friend with his foot in the door at Wikpedia, but no one's admitted to it.
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« Reply #6 on Dec 5, 2005, 9:45am »


Dec 5, 2005, 3:30am, Mark lloyd wrote:
I've had a not-so-bad, but completely inaccurate, experience with Wikipedia. They list me as a famous person from a listed community. I'm neither famous, nor from the community in question. It's nothing nasty, just my name in a list of entertainers, some of whom are actually quite famous. I'm assuming that this means I have an admirer/friend with his foot in the door at Wikpedia, but no one's admitted to it.


Is it possible the article is referring to someone else named Mark Lloyd?
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« Reply #7 on Dec 6, 2005, 7:40pm »

Wikipedia Review now has a (stub) article on Wikipedia, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Review.

Y'all have a nice day!
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« Reply #8 on Dec 6, 2005, 7:41pm »

Make that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Review without the period.
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« Reply #9 on Dec 7, 2005, 8:31pm »


Dec 6, 2005, 7:40pm, A Wikipedia User wrote:
Wikipedia Review now has a (stub) article on Wikipedia, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Review.


That means we should have a wiki that reviews the article.
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« Reply #10 on Dec 7, 2005, 8:59pm »


Dec 6, 2005, 7:40pm, A Wikipedia User wrote:
Wikipedia Review now has a (stub) article on Wikipedia, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Review.

Y'all have a nice day!


It's already been nominated for deletion!


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Wikipedia Review
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for Deletion page.
You are welcome to edit this article, but please do not blank this article or remove this notice while the discussion is in progress. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the Guide to Deletion.


The Wikipedia Review is a online forum which engages in public (and frequently harsh) criticism of Wikipedia. The site is moderated by Igor Alexandar, and prominent users of the site include noted Wikipedia critics such as Daniel Brandt and Jason Scott.

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This article does not cite its references or sources. You can help Wikipedia by including appropriate citations.

External links
Wikipedia Review website (http://wikipediareview.proboards78.com/)
This website-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_Review&action=edit) .

Categories: Pages for deletion | Articles lacking sources | Website stubs | Wikipedia resources for researchers | Wikipedia culture | Wikipedia as a media topic | Criticisms | Wikipedia
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Is Jason Scott really a participant here?
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« Reply #11 on Dec 7, 2005, 10:06pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wikipedia_Review

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikipedia Review
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I created this page; however I abstain from the AFD vote. I agree we should fairly treat Wikipedia critics. OTOH--compared to some critics of WP (who are at least informed), this site appears to be a collection of random insults, whacky conspiracy theories (in cahoots with Google and Microsoft?), unsupported allegations of misconduct against Jimmy Wales and other WP admins, admissions (and encouragement) of vandalism against WP, and other assorted insignificance. Many of the regulars there appear to be folks who were booted off of WP for one reason or another, and are now grinding axes against WP. As far as Wikipedia critics go, this site isn't very notable--I wouldn't expect to find any serious critics of WP rolling around in this particular mudhole. (And yes, I am excluding Daniel Brandt from the roster of serious Wikipedia critics--mainly because he's so d**n sloppy). --EngineerScotty 01:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


Oooooh ... them be fightin' words!

One has to wonder why "EngineerScotty" created the article in the first place if he thinks this site is so unworthy of attention. Maybe he just wanted us to read his critique?
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« Reply #12 on Dec 9, 2005, 2:17am »

I'm new here, but I want to say, I wasn't booted off Wikipedia. (I'm singin' David Bowie, "Is it any wonder...I reject you first? Fame fame fame faaame..."...except I'm not in the least famous. Thank God.)

I left Wikipedia because, after a brief period of time where I tried to do the project a favor by finding sources to attach to facts, I realized the fact I was working on HAD no source - because it was in fact a fabrication, at best repeated mythology.

Well, I ended up deciding to leave that fact intact. Why? Because it helped my side in the argument. That is to say, I rationalized to myself, 'facts don't matter here anyway, so why should I delete something that might sway an opinion over to My Side?"

That thought lasted about ten seconds - not even as long as it took me to type that sentence - but I was so ashamed, I quit working on wikipedia (what's the word here, wikipeding? Wikipediaying? Wikipediang?).

Who wants to become that sort of person? (I'm still ashamed of myself.)

I have since become convinced that toxic environments create toxic personality changes.

Since then I have started to indulge in strange fantasies involving revisionist history, etc. (Though mostly I encourage these paranoid delusions, because it's good material for cheesy science fiction. If I ever write and publish bad science fiction, blame Wikipedia. You will no doubt know it when you read it, no?)

I'm sorry my "bad experience" is in fact rather dull and uneventful.
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« Reply #13 on Dec 9, 2005, 10:42pm »


Dec 6, 2005, 7:41pm, A Wikipedia User wrote:
Make that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Review without the period.


This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.

This article does not cite its references or sources. You can help Wikipedia by including appropriate citations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikipedia_Review&action=edit
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« Reply #14 on Dec 9, 2005, 10:48pm »


Dec 7, 2005, 10:06pm, Igor Alexander wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wikipedia_Review


anus.com went through the same moronic, biased, fact-blind process :)

http://www.anus.com/etc/wikipedia/

some highlights:

As soon as someone entered an ANUS page, and it was linked to the GNAA, the WikiPedians, who have been beaten up before by the GNAA for failing to recognize the importance of trolling, began scheming to remove it. They invented justifications, fabricated "evidence" and eventually, fell to screaming threats and insults at those who opposed them. In the process, they revealed their general mentality as being that of a clubhouse, and showed that they don't care a wit for being an "encyclopedia," but for being a source of power for WikiPedia contributors. This shows how individualists can be authority abusers as bad as the worst cop or high school principal, and in fact are even worse, because they act as a herd and are more vindictive as they base their self-esteem on having the power of, say, deletion. We laughed, we trolled, and left a coda to remind us all that WikiPedia is just like elections in high school government: a popularity contest among those who have no other avenue, such as creating something, of succeeding.

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