Moderator: greetings JoeHaldeman!
Author of the Hugo Award-winning novel The Forever War and MIT
JoeHaldeman: Hello -- Joe
BEM: Hi from Barcelona
Moderator: it's a small crowd...shall we try
unmoderated for now?
NancyD: Welcome, Joe.
JoeHaldeman: Hey, BEM -- are you
FAW: Let's try it...
Leadbar: Hey, Joe.
BEM: Yes, Joe. Congratullations
NancyD: Congratulations on your Hugo Award.
JoeHaldeman: Hi, Leadbar!
FAW: Congratulations from Germany
JoeHaldeman: Thanks, JM!
Leadbar: Hey, he said hi to me. :->
JoeHaldeman: Danke, FAW
BEM: We were wating for you...
JoeHaldeman: I had to run from a
TV interview a kilomeer away ....
NancyD: So, how did picking up a Hugo for FOREVER PEACE
feel? Did you think it would be the winner this year?
Jeff: So Joe what have the highlights of the convention
JoeHaldeman: I hoped the novel
would win. But it had stiff competition.
BEM: Congratulations from Merce, Pedro, Pepe and Ricard
JoeHaldeman: Jeff, winning the
Hugo was DEFINITELY the highlight!
Leadbar: Buncha stiffs...
JoeHaldeman: Hi, Merce and
FAW: Did you read the other nominated novels?
NancyD: Which was more exciting, winning for WAR or
Jeff: Did you keep it away from Martha this time?
JoeHaldeman: Martgha wouldn't let
me get near her with this Hugo -- it's metal.
JoeHaldeman: FAW, I didn't read
the other novels ... I knew which one I would vote for,
NancyD: Joe, can you expain what you mean when you say
FOREVER PEACE is a thematic sequel to FOREVER WAR?
BEM: Everybody thinks that Simmons will win the
Hugo.... Were you surprised for it?
JoeHaldeman: NancyD, it's a
sequel only in the sense that it's about the same basic concerns
JoeHaldeman: when and whether war
is justified; what its effect is on people.
NancyD: So, will we see a third FOREVER book in 2023?
JoeHaldeman: I heard that Simmons
won the straw poll that SFR conducted --
JoeHaldeman: yes, I thought he
was the strongest one to beAT.
JoeHaldeman: Nancy, I plan to
write _Forever Amber_ in 2020
NancyD: Heh heh.
Jeff: There were a few sequels this year how did you
feel going up against them with what is essentially a stand alone book?
JoeHaldeman: BEM -- my wifely Gay
is here. She says hi.
xphotographer: hello all
NancyD: (Hello xphotog)
JoeHaldeman: Jeff, I think that
actually helped me. People who hadn't read the earlier books wouldn't
vote for the sequels.
xphotographer: use your imagiation
BEM: Hi Gay. We are very very happies here for Joe's
NancyD: Were you more nervous this year than you were
back when WAR was nominated for the Hugo?
BEM: A book published in Spain at same time that in the
Jeff: That was my personal view too, how did your
colleagues feel about the situation? Especially Walter?
JoeHaldeman: I think I was about
as nervous as usual. This is the fifth one, and I still get sick all
JoeHaldeman: Walter was a real
gentleman afterwards, and so were Mike and Robert.
Leadbar: Name droppers...
JoeHaldeman: We went to the
"Hugo Loser's Party," and they let me in even though I was
carrying a rocket ship.
Jeff: That's good. How was the party?
BEM: Joe, did you met Jim Stevens from Puerto Rico?
NancyD: How do you like this year's award? I've heard
folks say these are some of the nicest Hugo designs they've ever seen.
JoeHaldeman: It was a lot of fun,
Jeff. I sat with Bill Johnson, who was my student in '76, who's just
won his first HUgo.
JoeHaldeman: It's a real nice,
uncluttered design. A piece of wood from the Constitution.
BEM: Hello Ricard...
NancyD: (Bill won for his story "We Will Drink a
Jeff: I was glad to see Bill win since he is a new face
at the awards table.
NancyD: What was the impetous for writing FOREVER
PEACE, Joe? What could you say wiht that book that you didin't in
BEM-Ricard: Congratulations from Andorra Joe
JoeHaldeman: Bill's a real pal.
We've been close for decades.
NancyD: (Forgive my typos)
JoeHaldeman: Yes, BEM, we met
Jim, but haven't had any time to talk with him (in either language).
Seems like a great guy.
BEM: He is a nice guy, Joe.
JoeHaldeman: Buenas dias, Ricard.
Or is it night over there....
BEM: It's night here...
JoeHaldeman: YOu guys and your
silly planet. Bright as day here.
NancyD: And, are there any plans for a movie based on
WAR or PEACE?
JoeHaldeman: NancyD, I wrote
_Forever Peace_ as a kind of response to the Gulf War, as much as
JoeHaldeman: I mean, I write
novels. That's what I'm supposed to do....
JoeHaldeman: I've sold movie
rights to TFW, but not yet to FP. Maybe the Hugo will help!
NancyD: Are you working on another novel now?
JoeHaldeman: Yes, in fact, I'm
working on an actual sequel to TFW, called FOREVER FREE.
NancyD: When might we see that in print?
JoeHaldeman: It's due in January,
and would come out about a year after that.
nellaFlegnA: hey love
love: hello everybody
NancyD: Can you tell us anything about it?
Leadbar: Joe, do you feel Hollywod S.Effects and CGI
are up to depicting TFW?
nellaFlegnA: you know who you missed
love: dahm again
nellaFlegnA: yes you mised goddess
FAW: Is it a real sequel to FORERVER WAR?
JoeHaldeman: I think FX are up to
TFW, Leadbar. Whether they can do a sensible movie that's also sf is
Leadbar: Good point.
JoeHaldeman: FAW, yes, but it
starts 20 years after TFW ends.
love: wuzzup leadbar
NancyD: What else can you tell us about FF?
Leadbar: 20 years is nothing in a Haldeman novel...
love: what ????????
JoeHaldeman: Let me see, Nancy.
It's partly about being middle-aged and still coping with the memory of
nellaFlegnA: heya jil
NancyD: Who's the publisher on that one, Joe?
JoeHaldeman: It's also about the
feeling of being trapped -- their physical situation on the planet and
the pressures of family, job, etc.
Jeff: Like seeing Private Ryan for a DDay vet?
JoeHaldeman: It will be an Ace
JoeHaldeman: I really liked Pvt.
Ryan. Hell of a god movie.
NancyD: Do you have any short stories or other works
coming out soon that we can look forward to, are are you concentrating
on the novel?
nellaFlegnA: oh yeah
JoeHaldeman: I mean good
JoeHaldeman: Nancy, I did a
novelette for a Rober Silverberg antho that follows Marygay through the
last part of TFW's unuvers.
love: gradulation haldman
JoeHaldeman: Thanks, love.
NancyD: Is that Silverberg's famous LEGENDS anthology?
NancyD: Due out in a few months, I believe...
Jeff: What panels have you done so far and what were
they like as an experience?
JoeHaldeman: Nancy, no, that's
his fantasy one ...
love: with what did u win the award haldeman
JoeHaldeman: Forever Peace,
Leadbar: Joe, does TFW invite comparison's to Starship
Troopers, or is it just coincidence?
love: is that a book ????????????
JoeHaldeman: Leadbar, I'd read ST
a couple of times, so it was an influencve. But I wrote TFW as a
response to my experiences in Vietnam.
JoeHaldeman: Yes, lovce, a
love: oops sorry
NancyD: (Love, TFW is The Forever War)
Boolean: Hi everybody!
Leadbar: I know, Nanc
NancyD: How did Silverberg talk you into writing that
love: I only read comic books
love: and watch tv
JoeHaldeman: He offered me fifty
cents a word -- that'll do it every time!
Leadbar: 50 cents!
NancyD: Ha! Aside from Forever Free, are there any
novels you have in the works?
JoeHaldeman: For a novelette,
Boolean: you should read more novels!
love: wats your novel about haldeman
JoeHaldeman: I have four novels
in various stages of incompletion,
FAW: Isn't "There is no darkness" a better
response to ST?
Martika: stern, have you seen Howard?
JoeHaldeman: Love, it's about
love and death and stuff.
love: is there a movie about it
JoeHaldeman: FAW, I never thought
of _There is no Darkness_ in those terms.
Martika: stern, please don't be angry/cross at people
JoeHaldeman: No ... we're hoping
that Hollywood will throw some money at us, but we're not holding our
NancyD: Joe, what was your opinion of Starship
Troopers, the movie?
NancyD: Do you think it's anything like a TFW movie
might turn out? (For good or for bad ;-)
JoeHaldeman: I really liked the
ST movie. I think some people take it too seriously. It's a comedy
about WWII movies, not about future war at all.
BEM-Joan: Hi again. I falled out... :-(
love: if they would u should have alot of blood in it
JoeHaldeman: I would hope that a
movie of TFW would be serious.
NancyD: Joe, any directors/actors you'd like to see
take on TFW?
love: like chopped of heads in it
JoeHaldeman: I wouldn't mind
Voerhoven doing it. Stone is apparently interested, and that would be
BEM-Joan: Hi Ricard, Had you falled too? .-)
NancyD: Wow, that sounds great.
love: u should take that dutch guy
JoeHaldeman: I think Tom Hanks
ought to play the starring role.
love: from starshiptroopers
BEM-Joan: Wich Role, please Joe?
NancyD: Any other actors you'd like to see in a TFW
JoeHaldeman: William Mandella.
The female lead .... have to thin k about that.
love: nicole kidman
NancyD: Changing topics, you and your wife Gay recently
completed a cross country bike trip, isn't that right?
BEM-Joan: or, ok.
love: she'll do the tric
JoeHaldeman: Yes ... we biked
from St. Augustine FL to San Diego CA.
NancyD: You stopped at a lot of SF conventions on the
way, didn't you?
JoeHaldeman: We stopped to fly to
a lot of conventions, in the states and in Europe.
Leadbar: Joe, Did you get interesting feedback on TFWar
from older sci-fi authors when you won awards for it? Heinlein, etc.?
love: where in europe
Martika: Snoopy, how's Charlie Brown and the rest of
the Peanut gang?
JoeHaldeman: Heinlein liked TFW
though he disagreed with my politics.
JoeHaldeman: Spain, France,
love: didnt u go to holland
JoeHaldeman: Heinlein agreed that
it's immoral to draft people against their will, and utterly immoral to
continue fighting a war when you know you can't win.
JoeHaldeman: Love, we biked
through Holland years ago.
BEM-Joan: lovely country, Holland...
NancyD: Joe, did you have any disagreements with
JoeHaldeman: We liked each other
and sort of agreed to disagree. He did favors for me and I did favorts
love: been there bem
JoeHaldeman: I disagree with ST
profoundly, because it glorifies war. I also think it's a very
well-crafted novel, and I believe Heinlein was honest with it.
Leadbar: I've heard he was very gracious.
NancyD: Joe, what about the whole "fascist"
argument, that ST is a novel about fascism, etc.?
JoeHaldeman: He was a real
gentleman. Hard to describe. Never met a man like him before or
BEM-Joan: ST is a bad adaptation of the Heinlein's
is too easy an epithet. My problem with ST is more complex than
BEM-Joan: And a bad film too
love: can u guy's talk about something I know
JoeHaldeman: Joan, it was a
trivial film, but I wouldn't call it bad. A serious film about the
novel might have been socially dangerous.
Leadbar: Socially dangerous?
NancyD: love, this is a chat with Joe Haldeman.
JoeHaldeman: In that it does
glorify war. We have too much power to allow that.
love: wil be back later
BEM-Joan: Yes, Joe, you're right with this. But I
insist, ST is a bad film.
Leadbar: That glorification intentional on Heinlein's
JoeHaldeman: Heinlein honestly
believed that the most honorable thing a man could do would be to give
his life for his country.
BJ: hi nancy
JoeHaldeman: I don't completely
JoeHaldeman: But I think the
sentiment can lead to horrors.
BJ: hi nancy
Leadbar: How so?
JoeHaldeman: Patriotism is the
last refuge of scoundrels, as they say.
JoeHaldeman: It's also the
justification of a lot of inhumanity.
Kashon: Hi all
Leadbar: I'm following.
BEM-Joan: Nice words, Joe.
Kashon: anyone here like Saterday Anime?
JoeHaldeman: The problem is that
a person does have to be willing to sacrifice his or her life for the
good of his or her cohorts.
JoeHaldeman: Otherwise we aren't
Leadbar: Last q on ST: If, as you say, RH was honest
with it, how does it lead to danger on film?
Kashon: why not, I love anime
NancyD: The chat will be ending soon, so please send
your final questions/comments to Joe.
JoeHaldeman: But you do it
reluctantly. For good reason. And without cruelty.
Kashon: that is where my nickname comes from
BEM-Joan: In wich book are your woring now, joe?
JoeHaldeman: I'm working on
FOREVER FREE, Joan.
BEM-Joan: The sequel of The Forever War, isn't it?
JoeHaldeman: Not exactly a sequel
-- not in the terms of using the same characters and situation.
JoeHaldeman: It covers the same
ideas, from a different angle.
BEM-Joan: Same characters, perhaps?
Leadbar: Where can we find the piece you wrote for
JoeHaldeman: No -- that'll be the
next nov el, FOREVER FREE.
BEM-Joan: Good luck and congratulations again, Joe.
JoeHaldeman: Leadbar, it'll be
the big Silverberg book, but we don't know when it's scheduled.
Kashon: what books did you write?
JoeHaldeman: Thanks, Joan.
BEM-Joan: And all the best for Gay too.
JoeHaldeman: I think it's 22 or
JoeHaldeman: Gay sends her
Kashon: what are they about?
Leadbar: Good chat, Joe. Thanks.
BEM-Joan: We sent a brindis for you two. Bye.
JoeHaldeman: Love, war death,
life, the universe and everything. I mean, that's a lot of pages to
Kashon: yeah, I can imagine
JoeHaldeman: Brindis con abrazos,
Kashon: are you a profetionall auther?
FAW: I especially liked MINDBRIDGE...
JoeHaldeman: Yep, Kashon. 28
Moderator: So chatters, only a few minutes left. Any
final words for our author guest? And Mr. Haldeman, any final words for
JoeHaldeman: Not a very good
typoweist typist, though.
FAW: What are you reading right now? Any SF?
Kashon: tell me the title of one of your books, I think
I might have seen it
JoeHaldeman: If you start the day
by eating a live frog, everything after that is an improvement.
Leadbar: Oh, do you still teach, and where?
JoeHaldeman: The Forever War,
Kashon: I have read that
Kashon: it is ne of the coolest books
snitcher: hey zena
JoeHaldeman: I normally teach in
the fall at MIT. This semester I've taken a sabbatical, the first in 15
Kashon: you really wrote that?!
JoeHaldeman: Sure, Kashon, one
word at a time.
Leadbar: MIT? Wow. What course[s]?
NancyD: Okay, we're about done here.
Kashon: I bow to you, oh god of literature
snitcher: want to see my sword
JoeHaldeman: Science fiction
writing and genre fiction.
NancyD: Joe, thanks for joining us today, and
congratulations once again on winning the Hugo Award last night.
Moderator: Thank you for coming, Mr. Haldeman.
Kashon: *bends to one knee*
Zena: Joe?...do you have a web address based on your
JoeHaldeman: Thanks for having
Alucard: Hello mf :)
NancyD: I think we'll all be eagerly awaiting FOREVER
JoeHaldeman: I'm at
JoeHaldeman: My website is being
rebuilt right now.
Zena: thanks Joe:)
BEM-Joan: Thanks for your time, Joe.
FAW: Thanks for the chat!
JoeHaldeman: See you guys in the
fall, BEMs -- we'll have a great time in Valencia!
NancyD: If you missed anything today, the transcript of
this chat will be available shortly at http://www.scifi.com/transcripts
snitcher: how big are your tits NancyD
JoeHaldeman: Thanks, everybody
... I'm bailing out ...
BEM-Joan: Of course. With Paella! :-)
NancyD: Thanks again, Joe.
NancyD: Great having you.