September 11, 2005


Ditch Holocaust day, advisers urge Blair (Abul Taher, 9/11/05, Times of London)

ADVISERS appointed by Tony Blair after the London bombings are proposing to scrap the Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day because it is regarded as offensive to Muslims.

They want to replace it with a Genocide Day that would recognise the mass murder of Muslims in Palestine, Chechnya and Bosnia as well as people of other faiths.

Why not cut to the chase and have a pro-Holocaust Day?

Posted by Orrin Judd at September 11, 2005 10:50 AM

To genericize the "Jewish" Holocaust to include other victims of mass murder only makes those who were murdered because they were Jews to once again be victims by killing their collective memory. The only time in modern history when the "hunting sesaon" was open for human beings was in Europe during WWII. Jews were hunted down and killed systematically only because they were Jews.
Political correctness will spell the doom of liberal democracies. Apparently the British have not really learned anything from their own Islamist terror experience.

Posted by: mrotenb at September 11, 2005 12:08 PM

When your ethnic identity is with the anti-Semetic and anti-British quislings who spent the laltter part of WWII in Germany recruiting for the SS and working with Himmler on the original holocaust, you can hardly be expected to act otherwise.

Posted by: Lou Gots at September 11, 2005 12:26 PM

"mass murder of Muslims in Palestine"? In what alternative universe did this happen? Not in ours. Maybe they meant "mass murder of JEWS in Palestine" because that actually happened in the 1930s.

Posted by: Bob at September 11, 2005 12:38 PM

The mass murderer in Palestine must have been Arafat.

Posted by: Peter at September 11, 2005 01:04 PM

Mass murder in Palestine? Maybe referring to the persecution of Christians by the Muslims.

Posted by: obc at September 11, 2005 01:18 PM

Well, if we decided to exterminate 6 million Palestinians tomorrow, I'll bet their descendants would be quite unhappy about merging their rememberance.

The whole re-emergence of anti-Semitism in Europe seems to be a return to form. You know, 'the Holocaust was so long ago, let's get back to the business of hating the Jews and living in the moral fog. It's easier there.'

Posted by: ratbert at September 11, 2005 01:20 PM

If it is indeed true that the tender sensibilities of English Muslims would be grievously hurt should England decide to solemnly commemorate Holocaust Memorial Day, they do have a point.

Since in fact, according to their refined view of history, Holocaust Memorial Day is doubly offensive, simply because a) the Holocaust never happened--or never really happened)--and b) perhaps more egregiously, not nearly enough Jews were gassed, murdered, hanged, shot, tortured, beaten to death, or forced to die by starvation or disease, etc.

Posted by: Barry Meislin at September 11, 2005 03:43 PM

mrotenb: does Rwanda count?

Can't say I'm suprised, given the ease which with some people also gloss over the evils that communists have perpetrated on their own people. If at times the human capacity to commit evil seems limitless, it is easily surpassed by the human capacity to look the other way. Reflecting on the sadness and anger I feel on reading the 9/11 memorial stories today, I can hardly imagine how Jewish people must feel with regard to the Holocaust.

Posted by: Daran at September 11, 2005 04:09 PM

Let's hope Blair is made of sterner stuff and won't allow himself to be bullied.

Posted by: erp [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 11, 2005 04:23 PM

The current wave of anti-semitism and kowtowing to Muslim whining is only part of this story. This is is the taunting left at its most clever and mendacious. It is very hard for most folks to respond to this kind of argument without appearing to be mean-spirited or uncaring about others, and so most will swallow their rage or dissemble apologetically. The gut screams indignant rage, but the head flounders for a coherent argument in response.

I remember about twenty years ago when a Remembrance Day (Memorial Day) ceremony here was hijacked by some local oh-so-caring high school kids who made a loud fuss and demanded to be part of the ceremiony and lay a wreath for everyone who had ever died from poverty. The media loved them and most politicians and bigwigs simply muttered inclusive platitudes. Meanwhile, those who knew what the occasion was for seethed silently and tongue-tied.

What this is a defiant, in-your-face effort to undercut of the bonds of community and shared experience, in this case formative Westen experience of living memory. For old-style leftists, there was only the individual and the state. For the new kind, there is only the individual and "the world", and anyone who stands for anything in between can expect a rough road. Our ability to speak of such things is disappearing rapidly.

Posted by: Peter B at September 11, 2005 07:44 PM

Are we talking Emperor's Clothes again? We can't speak out because we don't want to be embarrassed by seeming insensitive or ill bred? Are there more sinister reasons?

There is no moral equivalency to the holocaust and trying to force one by comparing Palestinian deaths in an ongoing war against Israel started by and perpetuated by themselves, is an outrage.

Posted by: erp [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 11, 2005 09:06 PM

To Daran:
Rawanda was an attempt at genocide of one tribe against another that could have succeeded given enough time. As far as I know there were no trains transporting victims to factories of death.

The estimate is that govenments during the 20th century were complicit in the murder of approximately 180 million of their own citizens. These were govenments that were not representative democracies. None of the dead should be forgotten. What we in the free world should do to prevent more mass murder of innocents is support the spread of democracy to the rest of the world. George Bush has formulted this concept as the new American foreign policy objective.

Posted by: mrotenb at September 11, 2005 09:17 PM

. . . and for that act alone, he will be remembered for all time as a great President - if not the greatest.

Posted by: obc at September 11, 2005 10:17 PM

obc -- Amen.

Posted by: Randall Voth at September 12, 2005 05:19 AM