Dating tip: Quality dates quality

Over the past month (since I left Terrence) I’ve received several offers of dates and relationships from various men who read this blog. I’m not looking for a new boyfriend right now but it seems I should clarify what it is I look for in a man when I am, which will hopefully stem the flow of offers from guys who really don’t have it.

I am a very high-quality woman. I know that sounds arrogant, but let’s consider the facts:

• I’m slim (whereas 62% of American women age 20 to 74 are overweight)
• I’m attractive (my new picture has been rated more attractive than 86% of the women on Hot or Not -- and the women who upload their pictures are a self-selected sample that is probably already biased towards being more attractive than the general female population)
• I’m relatively young (whereas 82% of American adult women are over 30 years old)
• I’m intelligent (IQ tested at 145 when I was a child, which is 3 standard deviations above the mean -- higher than 99.85% of the population. Even if I’ve gotten dumber as I’ve aged I’m probably still at least a 130, which is higher than 97.5% of the population.)
• I’m educated (whereas 77% of American women do not have bachelor’s degrees)
• I have my financial shit together (no debt, perfect credit history, 6+ months living expenses saved, adequate insurance, self employed)
• I have a strong libido and love having sex (my lover *never* has to beg, unless it’s for me to let him get some sleep!)
• Most of my interests tend to be more popular with men than women: science fiction, libertarianism, blogging, politics, economics, guns, gambling, etc.

Given that self-improvement is an ongoing project of mine this list will continue to grow (I’m currently working on adding bilingual, very physically fit, well-traveled, higher income, and fantastic cook to the list). So even when “relatively young” (an important criteria for most men) drops off that list, I should have added enough other things that my overall dating market value should remain the same or even improve.

The above list explains why I typically receive 50-100 (sometimes more) responses whenever I post personal ads. This is in addition to getting hit on almost every time I go out alone (and all that those men know about me is that they like the way I look, they don’t even know about all the other qualities I have that make me more appealing than most other women).

So, I have a *lot* of choices of men who want to date me. Given that, of course I choose to date only the highest quality men -- men who are also fit, attractive, intelligent, educated, financially successful, etc.  I’m attracted to men from any race and a wide age range (21 to 50 or so) so the pool of men who meet those requirements is quite large, which allows me to add all sorts of additional restrictions if I want -- must be atheist, must be libertarian, must not want (more) children, must be financially independent or self-employed and available for frequent world travel, etc.

Some people scoffed at the long list of requirements in my personal ad last year. Yet in less than two weeks I found five men who met my listed requirements and wanted a relationship with me. If I were to put more time and effort into looking I could probably find hundreds of high-quality men who both met my standards and were interested in dating me too.  I can be picky.

So, although I am not looking for a new boyfriend right now -- I am waiting until October, after I’ve decided where I want to live -- those are the factors that I (and many other women) keep in mind when assessing potential romantic relationships. Just having some interests in common is *far* from enough.

I realize that some of you will find this post depressing because you’ll realize that you don’t qualify as a high quality man and thus won’t be able to get a high quality woman. You have a few options:

1. Lower your standards and stop pursuing women who are out of your league. There are lots of fat single mothers out there who can’t find dates either.
2. Look in the developing world. If you’re literate with a home computer and an internet connection you are very wealthy compared to the rest of the world. Citizenship or legal permanent residency in a rich country makes you more attractive to women in poorer countries. Your value on the dating market is thus much higher there.
3. Self-improvement! I used to be a fat unattractive college dropout who couldn’t get her life together. Now I’m thin, attractive, and successfully self-employed after graduating. You can make yourself over into a higher-quality man capable of winning a higher-quality woman too.

Thanks to everyone who e-mailed or commented their offers, it's nice to feel wanted.  Although I'm not looking for a new relationship right now (don't worry, I'll blog about it when I am), hopefully this post gave those of you who are interested a better idea of your chances in the future.

Update: Some people seem to think that this post is a bit harsh and/or arrogant.  I'm sorry if I've offended you, but I'm also really sick of getting e-mailed several times a week by delusionally hopeful men who read my blog and think because I am *their* dream girl that I'll therefore want them too.  Too often they act crushed when I reject them, which I feel bad about, but if they had stopped to consider whether they had as much to offer me as I have to offer them then they might have had more realistic expectations. 

Since becoming single again the amount of time I've had to spend on hopeful fanboy/stalker management has been steadily increasing.  It's uncomfortable, a little creepy, somewhat overwhelming, and I want it to stop.  I'm hoping this post will serve as a reality check for the guys involved (as well as any who were thinking about joining their ranks) because I don't want to have to stop being friends or friendly with the single geeky guys I meet via this blog.

Also, before anyone feels bad that I felt harassed by their attention, I want to clarify that it wasn't any one person's behavior that has made me this uncomfortable, rather it's the cumulative effect of being simultaneously aggressively pursued by several men who I don't have reciprocal feelings for.  Most of you probably didn't realize that you weren't the only one hitting on me over the past few weeks.  But now you do, and I need you all to cool it.

I do still want to spend time with *friends* as *friends* over the next few weeks, but I am *not* in the market for a new boyfriend right now.

Update II: I'm the most "self righteous bitch" in the blogosphere now!  Cool.

Update III: The "fallout".

Comments

[Individualist Woman]

Of course, everyone has a different idea of what constitutes "quality" in a date or mate. It's good that you put your list right out there so that people know whether or not you consitute a quality date/mate according to their standards. You'll probably save some men their time and trouble whose standards you don't measure up to.

[Jacqueline]

Sure. But there's far more men out there whose standards I measure up to than who measure up to mine.

[Jacqueline]

Also, how many men out there are looking for a woman who is fat, ugly, old, dumb, uneducated, in a financial mess, or who doesn't like sex? Other than perhaps some of the interests, or a much older man wanting a woman closer to his own age, I can't see anything on my list of qualities that very many men would say "I don't want that in a woman".

[Alfred Thompson]

You forgot to point out that you are modest. :-) But seriously your idea of a quality man is not universal. I know women who would not even think of dating an atheist. And of course there are men who feel the same way - I am one. This sort of difference in what is looked on at quality is why people should never lower their standards but should make sure they know what quality for them is. You are a very interesting person but not someone I would think about asking out. The trick for you is going to be finding someone you can respect as much as you do yourself.

[Individualist Woman]

What I think is telling about your list is what is not there. Sure, many people find what you've listed desirable, but they certainly don't add up to a solid, long-term relationship, and I think a lot of men (and women) who have made their mistakes and taken a time-out from serial relationships to sort things out realize there's more than that needed.

For example, someone who is seriously interested in and prepared for a long-term relationship is probably going to be looking for someone who knows what she wants in life and has compatible goals with his. What's the point of becoming emotionally attached to someone only to find out later that you're not compatible? This is area you've admitted struggling with, and are clearly still working out.

Other men will be attracted to physical beauty but be put off by mental illnesses such as yours and may either in the short run or long run prioritize mental health/stability above various qualities you've listed.

Some men will value having a mate who is reasonable/rational above having a young trophy girlfriend. Things like your tirade about men who want children being abusive and women who want children having no better prospects in life will not be attractive to those men.

Some men will be looking for a woman who is kind, considerate, respectful, compassionate, etc... While I'm sure you have that in you as it comes out from time to time here, you also have a nasty streak that can get quite vicious. Some men will be willing to put up with that, no doubt, but others will not be interested in dealing with that kind of behavior.

Everyone has his or her own set of priorities. Some men won't measure up to your standards, and you won't measure up to some men's standards either. Best to get that all sorted out as soon as possible to avoid getting emotionally attached to someone with whom you are not compatible.

You've already mentioned that there are all kinds of men ready to beat a path to your door who fit your criteria. Likewise, even though you're ruling a lot of men out of your prospective dating pool, they'll be just fine with other women with whom they are compatible. Much as it may sound romantic or exciting or whatever that the hordes of men you reject will fall into a state of depression, that hardly need be the case.

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

Thanks for your brutal honesty. It does help.

One irony is that just a couple days ago, one of my friends was asking me just why I liked you, and I gave him a bunch of my reasons. From his own reading over your blog, he thinks you are an arrogant flake, and told me that I could do better. (How he was talking about you made me quite upset.) He went on to explain that some of my reasons for liking you were not good reasons, and that several better reasons for liking a person were missing from my list. For example, a more compatible sense of humor is probably more important (for me at least) than a compatible political ideology. I am still trying to process it all. I think his advice was partially right and partially wrong, but it was enough to start me thinking more clearly.

Lower your standards and stop pursuing women who are out of your league.

I said something to that extent in your chatroom about a year ago - but several of our friends there argued me out of it, and gave me more courage to try reaching higher.

Also, regarding some of the personal stuff you've told me privately since we met over a year ago - that was not helpful if you wanted to avoid having me fall for you. But anyway, I am getting over it.

[Jacqueline]

"mental illnesses such as yours"

ADHD is a learning disability, not a mental illness.

"Much as it may sound romantic or exciting or whatever that the hordes of men you reject will fall into a state of depression, that hardly need be the case."

Ha! You should see the e-mails I receive. The reason I made this post is that I have been getting hit on by quite a number of men recently who really should know better by now and who do indeed become quite depressed/despondent when I turn them down. They wouldn't be feeling so heartbroken right now if they'd had more realistic expectations of the quality of woman they're capable of getting.

I don't enjoy rejecting people and hurting their feelings. But I'm also sick of my already cluttered e-mail inbox filling up with repeated attempts from delusionally hopeful men who seem to think that if they harass and stalk me enough I'll fall in love with them. (I am talking about *several* guys, not one particular person, and please, people, don't post comments speculating about who's on that list, it's not nice.)

My hope is that this post will effectively pre-emptively reject the entire class of guys who I'd never consider dating (but who approach me all the time anyway) in a way that doesn't cause too many hurt feelings. It's not personal, guys -- it's just that I know my value on the dating market and I can do a lot better. I hope we can still be friends, but my standards for lovers are a lot higher.

[Paige]

Well, in 2 years time, you get to join that percentage of women above 30 years of age....it will be interesting to see where you will be with regards to a relationship in 2 years time....

Best of luck and I mean that in a positive way.

[Jorge]

IW said it a lot nicer than I was going to.

The number of failed relationships you have had speaks volumes. In the short term, you can have most of the men you are interested in, but beyond a few months, your relationships are doomed.

I hope your next lover reads your blog and has enough sense to know he is boarding an emotional roller coaster.

Do continue with the lists, they are entertaining if nothing else.

What makes you think that having a degree equates to having an education?

[Lucy Stern]

Jackie, You are a real piece of work.

[Paige]

Jorge

Sincerely

Thank you for saying that...some of the most "educated" people I know are also the least interesting and least intelligent. It's all an education mill these days. I do believe in the value of education and I am glad I got my degree but I agree that having a degree does not automatically equate to being an educated person.

[Jacqueline]

"The number of failed relationships you have had speaks volumes."

Given that I am usually the one who breaks things off, all that says is that I am willing and able to leave when I realize that a relationship isn't working for me.

"What makes you think that having a degree equates to having an education?"

That is how most people use the word. When someone says they are looking for someone "educated" they usually mean someone with a degree, not self-educated.

[Individualist Woman]

Actually, ADHD is a mental illness which I pointed out to you before in one of your posts claiming that people who believe in God are mentally ill. You are, according to the standard reference of the American Psychiatric Association, mentally ill.

[a mensa member]

You should get your IQ tested again. For your own good.

[Jacqueline]

They used to classify homosexuality as a mental illness too, that doesn't mean it is or was.

[Individualist Woman]

If you disagree with that, that's fine. But that's the professional standard, and most people recognize that as more credible than your own personal definition that conveniently makes you not mentally ill but the vast majority of other people mentally ill.

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

How about some comments, and personal stories, about what does and does not make a good relationship? I haven't much to contribute, but could really benefit from reading it.

[Paige]

Wayne

You're really best off learning what works for you, rather than what didn't work for someone else. There's enough self help book at the book stores if you want anecdotes or personal stories. Quality is a relative measure. It sounds to me that you just need to figure out what you want and work on your self esteem and self confidence issue.

Good luck

[Timothy]

Don't forget to add "modest" to the list above, top-notch modesty 'round these parts.

[Lab_Frog]

You know what you really want is the future ruler of the solar system, Lab_Frog! A former ISS lab frog who also now has a secret lunar base on the far side of Earth’s moon, at NASA's expense As you don’t want any offspring, you would be a perfect secondary wife, as Frog will need a human female to help him understand womankind. If interested, first watch the cult classic movie, Frog-g-g.
http://www.froggg.com/

[Jacqueline]

I realize that this "Lab Frog" guy is just spamming my blog to promote his movie trailer, but he does it in such an entertaining (and personalized) fashion that I'm going to leave it. It's such a nice change from the porn and pills spam I usually get.

[Bill T]

If only the Titanic had had your self-esteem, we wouldn't have had it as a metaphor all these years.

[Amused]

IW, you beat me to the post regarding the DSM IV. Frankly, if you consider the wild mood swings that Jacquie demonstrates through her blog, and the rather grandiose plans for personal achievement she posts about which never quite get off the ground (becoming a development economist, publishing a book, learning Mandarin Chinese, becoming very fit, becoming a "fantastic" cook, etc.), I am guessing that ADHD is the least of the DSM IV issues she faces. Just a guess, though.

[Lab_Frog]

Umm, also, you would need to learn how to enjoy reproductive functions in a civilized manner.
http://www.backyardnature.net/frogsex.htm

[Lab_Frog]

Ok, how about something a bit more mild:
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/frogs/repro/

[Tumbleweed]

Other men will be attracted to physical beauty but be put off by mental illnesses such as yours

Yeesh, since when is being Libertarian classified as a mental illness?

*ba-dump!*

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :)

See, Jackie, there IS a good reason for having Christians around - you always have someone to make fun of.

[Tumbleweed]

You know, speaking of guns - did you take any such classes in the Seattle area back in the day? I'm about to take an intro to handguns class at Wade's here in Bellevue mainly because it's so close; I haven't actually researched this one yet, so I don't know if there's someplace better. (or better place to actually shop for a handgun).

[Jacqueline]

"the wild mood swings that Jacquie demonstrates through her blog"

I am a moodier-than-average person, yes, but I also exaggerate for dramatic effect.

"the rather grandiose plans for personal achievement she posts about which never quite get off the ground (becoming a development economist, publishing a book, learning Mandarin Chinese, becoming very fit, becoming a "fantastic" cook, etc.)"

development economist: what, if someone changes their career plans they're mentally ill?

publishing a book: book is outlined and about half the research materials are assembled, but lately I've been using my working time for things that provide a more immediate payoff.

learning Mandarin Chinese: I was thinking about learning *Cantonese* so that I could understand Terrence's family. No more Terrence, no more need to learn Cantonese.

becoming very fit: This is a gradual process. I go to the gym 3-5 times a week.

becoming a "fantastic" cook: Also a gradual process. Unfortunately this had to go on hold for the summer since I'm not at home with my kitchen gear and books, but I plan to resume this pursuit as soon as I am settled again.

I don't see how any of these goals are "grandiose", either -- all have been achieved by many thousands of people.

[Jacqueline]

"You know, speaking of guns - did you take any such classes in the Seattle area back in the day?"

I took classes at Insights Training Center and *highly* recommend them:
http://www.insightstraining.com/

Archive of my blog posts about them:
http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/blog/insights_training_center/index.html

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

Lab Frog wasn't spamming. I see evidence that he was a regular blog reader just being funny. And my guess is he is just a fan of the movie, not active with it. Lab Frog's web site (linked from his name, not the link in his post) actually has some interesting things, such as a summary of the Economist's article on "Bigger testes mean smaller brains", and "Voting Patterns and Education."

On another note, Froggg sounds like the sort of movie you would like, Jacqueline.

And damn it, people. Jacqueline is nothing like the Titanic, and she doesn't normally come off as arrogant. This is just a particular circumstance, triggered by some of the pressure recently put on her. Most of what Jacqueline has written here is right on the mark. She simply knows what she wants, and I don't expect she'll have much trouble getting it. And from what I've picked up on over the last year and a half, she is really good to those she likes, so she should not have trouble keeping it. I wish her the best.

[Amused]

As for exaggeration of your mood swings, we only know you through what you write. Of course, your choice of how you wish to portray yourself is instructive in and of itself.

As for the grandiosity, it isn't so much any specific thing (after all, you have not declared that you are going to win a Nobel Prize next year), it's more the vast array of what you say your are working on and the fact that you never report that you actually complete much of anything (save your degree after much, much, much longer than is usually taken for such things).

Maybe it's all just the ADHD, maybe not.

[john aho]

Be picky while you can. As soon as you get a kid your dating stock drops.

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

BTW, Jacqueline, is it partially my fault that you have not blogged about last week's blog party? (In the "Sick" post, you said you were planning to.) Go ahead and write what you would about it.

And given what you've said in this thread, I probably owe you an apology for stalking you with the camera the whole time. I was thinking that you were an outspoken enough person, that if it bothered you, you would have just told me to stop. But maybe I misjudged, and it really was bothering you, but you didn't say anything. Sorry.

[Jacqueline]

"it's more the vast array of what you say your are working on and the fact that you never report that you actually complete much of anything"

Goals I have achieved during the lifetime of this blog:
- Lost weight
- Completed degree
- Became self-employed
- Got boyfriend who met all my criteria at the time
- Expatriated to Costa Rica

Not bad for three years. Yes, I have a lot of projects going at once -- probably a combination of ADHD and just having a lot of interests -- so it takes me longer to complete any individual project than it might for someone who is more single-minded, but I'm happy with the rate of progress I've made with improving myself and my life over the years.

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

I find Jacqueline's efforts to get her life how she wants it to be quite inspiring, and am anxiously waiting to read the future chapters.

[anon]

Anxiousness just got creeped out.

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

I am pissed off that she was called a "self righteous bitch." She's not, and more of her friends ought to step forward and defend her.

I did not appreciate anon's comment.

[Paige]

I'm guessing that her friends haven't "stepped" up because they know she can handle this. Jackie's written other posts that have generated a wide range of feedback and she's always handled them just fine.

I must have missed the self righteous bitch comment.

I don't see J's plans as being grandiose nor a reflecting of ADHD. Some of us plan big and need time to achieve or decide which goals are worth pursuing further and some of us narrowly focus on fewer goals. Neither approach is better or worse. It's a preference.

But I do agree with Amused that how one choose to portray onself can be instructive. It's why we're often taught as professors to moderate what we say to our students.

For example, the evening before a midterm, I had a student email me to ask "What are we being tested on tomorrow?"

It would have given me SUCH pleasure to write back, "Your ability to hear, read and comprehend english." (you moron).

[Patti]

The thing that I find amusing is that you're defining "quality woman" and "quality man" as though it was some objective standard.

Some of the things that make your list also make mine. Some of the things on your list are actually negatives in my mind. And several of the things that I value most highly don't show up anywhere in your discussion.

Perhaps it would be good to understand that quality is subjective rather than objective? "Lower your standards" and "out of your league" are offensive and demeaning phrases, and people will naturally be offended by them. "Look for someone whose wants are better matched to yours" is both closer to reality and is far less judgmental.

[rfjason]

The first thing I'm noticing in responses is the classic defensive move of "well, it depends on your definition of quality" as if that wasn't a foregone conclusion. DUH! Of course a successful relationship is going to depend on your values, and how well a potential partner reflects ones own values. But, where I'm seeing this "defense" used is by people who I'm guessing feel personally threatened by Jacq's value system.

For the men: look, there's no need to feel threatened, unless you view Jacq as your one and only opportunity for love. If that's the case, you need to spend less time worrying about whether you have a chance with this particular woman, and more time worrying about why you don't have prospects with ANY women. Introspection and a plan of action is a good thing here. So is putting down the internet porn and stepping away from the fleshlight.

For the women: just accept that Jacq is far more attractive than the vast majority of you. The numbers she's quoting are valid measurements, especially when you consider the ideal male point of view. Smart men (like me) are attracted to thin, young, physically pleasing, educated, stable, sexual creatures who can go toe-to-toe with me on Star Wars quotes. Now, you might be saying to yourself, "no reward is worth this." But, I can assure you that Jacq does represent a high quality value system and there are many qualified suitors just waiting in the wings. It's an attraction system that works, and you shouldn't bash it just because it makes your wishy-washy ill-defined value systems pale by comparison.

I'm also seeing some Jacq-bashing here. It's defense mechanism #2 from all those men who just got shot down. I'm sorry, but having a value of "she must value me or else she's a bitch" is the equivalent of emotional blackmail. Why don't you just sit there and cry in front of her until she pities you enough to give you the time of day again?

Now, I'm not talking from any mountaintops. I don't meet many of her criteria (at the moment), but I don't assume that means I'm deficient somehow or that she is somehow deficient for not wanting me. It's just the way it is. I have a very well defined value system that is not impacted in any relative fashion by what others think. It just means I'm not for her. Which is fine! I like her value system. It's well thought out, and very representative of her person. Is it an unusual value system? Oh hellz yes. But that just makes it all the more wonderful to witness. She is woman at the height of an ideal, both unto herself, and unto her partner. She is not something to be denigrated, no matter how much your own feelings are hurt because you don't have adequate self esteem.

I'm also seeing a lot of women passive-aggressively taking shots at Jacq to tear down her achievement-based value system with predictions of "let's see where you're at when ... *insert bad event here*." Any time you find yourself actively rooting against someone you should at least have a healthy respect for, you have a deep self esteem issue rooted in moral relativism that you need to deal with. Why is it so important that the people around you be humble, or at least not present a value system that you regard as critical of your value system? Why is what other people think important to you? Why do you base your self worth on other people's standards? If you can't answer these questions, or if you actively deny these questions, you have no business taking shots at Jacq, or anyone for that matter. You need to work on that self esteem and start a genesis of a value system from within -- from what you truly value, if you value anything at all.

Now, what's with criticising her laundry list of goals? What, a woman can't have lofty dreams and achieve them in an extended amount of time? Are you so rooted in the practical that you have no concept or love for the ideal? Do you denounce such dreams for no other reason than to give your own life of mediocrity a comfortable moral stature? In what rational world can you look at a woman like Jacq, and her goals, and say that she's wrong for wanting to achieve? How can you possibly accuse her of being flaky or flighty just because her life is highly dynamic and her response to it is also highly dynamic? By your standards, any jetsetting individual with extensive possibilities is "flaky." Is it so impossible for you to comprehend a person with a fast-paced and voracious mind like Jacq is going to want to get more out of life than any of you?

And, lastly, what's with this armchair psychology about Jacq's emotional state? Now, assuming that you really can get a clear picture of a person through a blog (which is like saying you can get a clear picture of Adolf Hitler by reading Mein Kampf), are any of you really in a position to objectively and informatively discuss what constitutes emotional stability? Looking at most of your comments, folks, I'm not seeing a whole lot of emotional stability amongst any of you, so you might want to have Mr. Pot stop talking to Ms. Kettle.

And, none of that withstanding, there is no objective reason to believe that Jacq is anything but perfectly reasonable and rational about her world. Yes, some of you find her views extreme, but that's only because some of you are so indoctrinated on the pablum of a socialist society that any hope of breathing individualist life into you was suffocated long ago. The truth of the matter is that Jacq, through her blog alone, has an uncanny ability to present emotional transparency and honesty. She talks about her feelings without pretense or censure. Frankly, that's the most you can ask from any person. To accuse her of anything less than true emotional maturity is just another reference to mental defense mechanism #1: tearing her down for her achievements.

What I'm seeing in these responses is truly disgusting. It is the culmination of the moral relativist, the esteem-bankrupted heart, and the emotionally immature. Stop for a minute and think about how screwed up you are before you try to project it onto someone who, truly, outclasses all of you by an order of magnitude.

Now, I know a lot of you guys are sitting there going "well, if I start doing all of these things on her list, then she'll want me." Forget it. If you're doing it for her, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. You should be these things she wants because it is what you want for yourself. That is, you should coincidentally have the same value of yourself that she has for a person like you if you want a successful relationship. In other words: be yourself, and make improvements because they're what you want, not because some woman says that's what she wants. Trust me! I know how bad it blows up when you change yourself for someone else. You must be the fulfillment of your own values.

My friendship with Jacq is limited, but it is fulfilling. Since I've interacted with her personally on a number of occasions, I could go on and on with more evidence about the truth of what I've just written. But, it's not necessary. All that really is necessary is that I can confidently state that I treasure the person that is Jacq. I value her, and I respect my values by respecting her.

You should do the same.

[Jacqueline]

Wow. Thanks, Jason.

So.... did RFJason just set a new record for longest comment ever on this blog? (I'm sure Wayne can write a program that can tell us...)

[Individualist Woman]

I don't see people who are pointing out the obvious fact that Jacqueline's idea of "quality" is not universal as lacking in self-esteem. I do think that a possible sign of low self-esteem is when someone has to denigrate others in order to elevate or emphasize her own status which is what Jacqueline seems to be doing here. As in "you don’t qualify as a high quality man and thus won’t be able to get a high quality woman" and "Lower your standards and stop pursuing women who are out of your league."

Jacqueline could easily have chosen to be tactful instead of derogatory as Patti pointed out, but she didn't. She could have also chosen to post a simple statement that she was not looking for a boyfriend at this time and would the men please refrain from e-mailing her with such suggestions at this time, but she didn't. Instead, she chose to be rude. Surely it is not surprising that someone has chosen to return the favor in kind.

[rfjason]

Hooray for the reactivation of my brain! *so excited*

[rfjason]

Jacqueline could easily have chosen to be tactful instead of derogatory as Patti pointed out, but she didn't.

The only people who would find this post to be derogatory are people who derive their self esteem from others. That is, they only feel good about themselves when other people say good things about people like themselves.

A truly emotionally stable and mature person doesn't take someone else's value system or satements derived from it personally. Look at me. I know I'm not at Jacq's standards. But you don't see me getting all pissy about it. Why not? Because I have a well-defined value system that is developed from within. I have the emotional maturity to look at Jacq's value system and understand that it is HER value system and not mine.

The only people who accuse Jacq of being insensitive are people who demand her unconditional acceptance. It's emotional blackmail and it's psycho.

Whether you take offense to what I wrote is your own damn problem. Don't blame others.

And now I'm going to shut up for the night because there's nothing else I can clarify for the emotionally immature out there. They're just going to be pissed off, and that's too bad for them.

[Individualist Woman]

If that were true, rfjason, then you wouldn't be demanding that everyone respect Jacqueline, nor would you go to such great lengths to respond to the comments being made. After all, if she and you actually fit your definition of "emotionally mature" then neither of you would give a hoot what was being said.

[rfjason]

neither of you would give a hoot what was being said

Yes. Notice our RATIONAL replies to your irrational arguments.

The difference between correcting someone's irrational state of mind and simply attacking them for having a value system is well illustrated here, I believe.

You can either choose to accept that which is rational, or continue being completely irrational and miserable.

[anon]

J, I didn't look at the link about female education in the US, because I didn't want to download the XLS file... but I do find it hard to believe that only 22% of women are educated in the US.

OK, how about in the 25-35 age bracket... how many have a bachelor's degree?

[Jacqueline]

"OK, how about in the 25-35 age bracket... how many have a bachelor's degree?"

32%. (I am assuming that women who have higher levels of educational attainment also have bachelor's degrees.)

[anon]

wow! i'm amazed to hear that only 32% of women in the 25-35 age bracket have a bachelor's degree... i expected it to be around 55%.

could you tell me the source of this info? thnx.

[Jacqueline]

US Census Bureau.

Half of the female population (62% of the 25-35 age group) has at least *some* college education, but about half of them apparently drop out before attaining their bachelor's degree.

[Mike]

I would like to second what Patti said. You've presented the possibilities for a given man as:

1) they're right for you (huzzah!)
2) find a fat single mother
3) get a mail order bride
4) suck significantly less

I'm pretty sure there's a wide range of other possibilities, such as finding someone who wants what they have and is not out of their league without being a fat single mother (and at this time I won't get into the question of whether being a fat single mother automatically makes someone less desirable than you). I'm sure there's some way to say that in a less inflammatory fashion than you chose to.

[david]

I think Jacqueline's attractiveness is kind of a niche thing. Some women, it seems to me, are generally considered attractive by most men. I don't think Jacqueline is one of those women.

To illustrate: I don't find Jacqueline attractive at all (based on what I've gathered from her blog), for reasons that people have mentioned above: she's kind of flaky, she doesn't seem to have very many original or interesting ideas, and she's just not very attractive (by my lights). And, yeah, the arrogance is a big turn-off, especially given the just-mentioned flaws.

On the other hand, apparently there are lots of guys out there who think she's the cat's pajamas.

So, as I say, I think Jacqueline's kind of a niche-girl, sort of like a cult sci-fi show that is disliked by some or most people but loved by a select group. She's less like a big hit show that is liked by pretty much everybody. So I think it's not really accurate to say Jacqueline is a "high quality woman," if that is meant to reflect a generally accepted assessment and not just the opinion of "fanboys".

[Steven E Metke]

Can you stop trying to lower other male’s expectations? The only way I'm going to snag someone decent is if the rest of the Y encumbered population is too distracted by the unattainable.

Alas, I keep running into people with their religiouse bit set. Now if only they would properly specify that in their match profiles so I don't waste time talking to them *sigh*

[Contrarian Doer]

I think some of your features are exaggerated to
a certain degree. I'd like to see the raw
data and statistical analysis to believe it.
Sorry.

[Mikey]

*pokes head in*
brutally honest as always. there is no gray area to liking jaqueline. you either do or don't.

anyway, *looks up* damn that's a tall list. go for what you know darling. do i have anything important to say? not really except that the new pic is the best one so far.

ok, now back to what y'all were doing. don't mind me.

[Kerry]

That post made me laugh a lot. I've gotten some pretty hilarious emails from people who read my blog and think that we'd make a perfect match. What is there about my poop stories that makes men want to bring me home to meet mom? And then obviously, I don't mention quite enough how absolutely married I am. This elevates the creepy level from yellow to a critical orange.

It's so difficult to answer earnest emails with tact and compassion.

How do you tell someone that they've fallen for someone not only out of their league...but out of their stratosphere? *Adjusts modesty*

Definition of an extremely high quality woman: All that stuff you said ...plus the ability to enjoy watching and speak intelligently about sports.

Honestly, I am happy for you. You've worked hard and come a long way...there's nothing wrong with knowing that and expecting the same motivation in a mate. Your criteria are fairly specific though...maybe look inito someone with a few differences...

Having empassioned reasonable arguments about the outside world with a guy is wonderful foreplay.

[dude]

I prefer my girlfriends to have similar attributes such as yours as well as being Bi and open to Swinging.

Wanting to live in Costa Rica, at least part of the year, is also a plus.

Let me know if you can handle such an arrangement.

[FreeRangeAuthor]

Just saw a great film you can recommend to your stalker fanboys (and you'll like it, too),

THE BAXTER
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401244/

Very funny character study of romance vicissitudes. Showalter is a great writer, director, actor with a great ensemble cast.

Be sure to watch through the credits to the end.

[lynn]

"in less than two weeks I found five men who met my listed requirements and wanted a relationship with me."

And yet none of them fell in love with you with reciprocity? How unsurprising.

[Gary]

so has anyone noticed that the two guys who write impassioned defense of "she's notthis, she's that" are the two guys who seem to want a relationship with Jackie.....but don't fit her list....

I dunno girl. It's great that you know what you want, but yes there are ways of stating that without being aggresive or rude.

Think very carefully about what you've managed to achieve this year in Costa Rica. All those places you've been to - most of them were on T's dime. Or because of T.

Speaking of, I bet he would have some really interesting things to say. We've only got Jackie's version of what happened.

[Amused]

Gary: Indeed. It's rather ironic that with her superabundance of quality, Jaquie apparently finds herself attracting what she believes to be mostly non-quality types. Perhaps she is getting scads of admiring e-mails from quality guys seeking dates, too, and is just not telling us about it.

[jay]

Quality guys would know not to hit on her by email right after a big breakup.

[Paige]

When you are under 30, you view the world in a specific way. Each milestone - Read Gail Sheeny's book - brings with it a different perspective.

It used to be that "youth" was an important factor when choosing a mate in terms pf having a family. These days, of course with women being fitter, stronger and what we know about medicine, postphoning motherhood till you are 40 isn't an issue.

Since Jackie doesn't want to have children, I'm not sure why it's important that she's under 30 in her list above.

As you get older, you also bring more life experience with you - the way you interact with people, how people respond to you, things you have done, what you have done - and often, looking back, you might think - ah ha! I did that just right or hmmm....I could have done that differently.

Aging isn't a choice variable. So the best we can do with it really is to embrace all that it brings because each milestone has its own challenges and rewards!

[Jacqueline]

Good morning! I wonder if this post will top 100 comments today?

Kerry says: "I've gotten some pretty hilarious emails from people who read my blog and think that we'd make a perfect match."

I figured she would report in with similar experiences. I think most of the people responding negatively to this post probably just don't understand just how much attractive women in the blogosphere get stalked.

Dude says: "I prefer my girlfriends to have similar attributes such as yours as well as being Bi and open to Swinging."

No thank you.

Lynn says: "And yet none of them fell in love with you with reciprocity? How unsurprising."

Terrence and I were in love.

Amused says: "Jaquie apparently finds herself attracting what she believes to be mostly non-quality types."

Jay pretty much replies for me: "Quality guys would know not to hit on her by email right after a big breakup."

Quality guys also know how to take no for an answer -- the guys who have harassed/stalked me the most have been told repeatedly that I'm not interested.

Also, I just attract a lot of men, period. Since most men in the world are not quality men, even if the men contacting me were a representative sample of the male population most them would not be quality men.

Paige says: "Since Jackie doesn't want to have children, I'm not sure why it's important that she's under 30 in her list above."

Men tend to be hard-wired to find younger women more attractive than older women -- learn some evolutionary psychology.

[Dave]

Aw...cute....see how nice Jackie plays...

men tend to be hard-wired to find younger women more attractive than older women - learn some evolutionary psychology

what a sweetheart...

IW you're so right...
she just has a long long way to go.

I really don't see why anyone would find her attractive....
When I read her advertistment for a lover, it made her sound more like a prostitute than anything else....

by the way all these claims of being self employed etc...let's see some tax returns sweetheart...

and wait...wasn't there a few husbands in her history already...

ok, this freakshow is getting boring..

Jackie,
You are an incredible rude, self centered and over confident little girl. Real men want a woman who has compassion and not just a need to fuck. Your self analysis of what you've accomplished at 28 is pathetic and indeed grandiose.

[amused first (and last) time reader]

Maybe you're attracting men of "lesser quality" because water tends to find its own level?

That you're more attractive than 82% of the people on Hot or Not doesn't speak well of the rest of that list. It's possible your rating would go down if the raters had access to your charming personality.

But you've got moxie, so you've got that going for you!

[gary]

Jackie needs to learn humility and manners and to stop making wide generalisations of what men want or are hardwired. I prefer my women to be emotionally mature and compassionate, and if that means that they are over 30...then more power to them...

sounds like someone is afraid of hitting the big 30 single...

[Jacqueline]

And I think other people need to learn about the science of attraction before they criticize my generalizations about what people tend to be attracted to. My opinions are informed by evolutionary psychology, are your opinions informed by anything at all?

[Loki on the run]

Jacqueline says:

learning Mandarin Chinese: I was thinking about learning *Cantonese* so that I could understand Terrence's family. No more Terrence, no more need to learn Cantonese.

Cantonese is a more interesting language than Mandarin, and the people, at least those I have met, are more interesting in many ways.

I can still remember the how amazed I was that a small group of people (the approximately 10M people of Hong Kong) could create such high quality movies and series. One of them, Seung Hoi Taan, could empty streets all over asia when it was screened.

Dave says:

Jackie,
You are an incredible rude, self centered and over confident little girl. Real men want a woman who has compassion and not just a need to fuck. Your self analysis of what you've accomplished at 28 is pathetic and indeed grandiose.

You clearly need to put her down, since you used the diminutive as well as other put-down phrases. Jacqueline seems to be not unlike other women who have a realistic knowledge of their worth in the meat market, like film stars. One can admire and desire Angelina Jolie while knowing all the while that she would never even see you if you passed her on the street.

Also, I don't think you actually know what real men want.

[gary]

we want REAL women....not silly little girls with an over inflated sense of their "attractiveness"...we also want women with some emotional maturity and hey, overall maturity...

[Sisko]

why is this post bothering anyone at all?????

It doesn't matter if she is rude or /not, arrogant/or not , whatever!

She is simply stating

a) I consider myself as 'x' and if you are not similar then don't bother me (or waste my time and yours

b) I am not looking for now, thanks

Anyone critizing her here is in my opinion

a) hurt and trying to put her down because you either asked her on a date or were considering to

b) comparing your values/qualifications/personal experiences/etc to hers and in the process trying to justify why yours are better than hers and why she can't voice x,y or z opinion

She would be doing something terribly bad if she would not voice to potential dates how she sees herself and instead tries to play the 'politically correct' girl

With the internet she can find plenty of potential dates that suit her preferences (100 years ago that might have been different but in these times you can find people that think that the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese)

To put it midly, do not project your own insecurities/frustations/faults by trying to put her down, it obviously its not going to work as anyone who has been exchanging views on the internet grows a thick skin in just a few weeks (either that or you go insane wondering 'how in the hell can this person think that????')

[Spungen]

Well, at least no one can ever say you lead them on by acting too friendly! ;)

This little controversy is hilarious and it made my morning. I'd almost forgotten how outraged some insecure men get at the idea of women daring to set forth standards. Men frequently make equally arrogant statements (or worse) about their rigid standards for women -- usually getting little or no criticism in return. The typical difference is that they don't bother to balance this against an assessment of themselves. At least you provided that. If your self-appraisal is inflated, hey, market forces will eventually tell you. You don't need to hear it from trolls.

It's refreshing to see a woman gutsy enough not to lie and pretend her attraction is based solely on some indefinable soulmate quality. Women who do that are often also the ones who pretend the reason they don't want a guy is because he's become "too good a friend." It's that dishonesty that's partly responsible for men's double standard regarding, well, standards. It's also the way many women shunt anger from undesirable men onto other women.

[Loki on the run]

Spungen says:

This little controversy is hilarious and it made my morning. I'd almost forgotten how outraged some insecure men get at the idea of women daring to set forth standards. Men frequently make equally arrogant statements (or worse) about their rigid standards for women -- usually getting little or no criticism in return. The typical difference is that they don't bother to balance this against an assessment of themselves.

As I have observed elsewhere you make sweeping generalizations far too frequently.

High quality males, and they exist, are quite able to demand anything from females.

Moreover, what makes for high quality in females is different to what makes for high quality in males, and the risks that males run are different to the risks that females run. As the Danimal says, males ration commitment, females ration sex. For good reason, and as Jacqueline has observed, related to biology.

With respect to Jacqueline's realistic assessment of herself, with intelligence comes an ability to see through the self-deception that so many people practice.

[Loki on the run]

My only question to Jacqueline, given the list of interesting qualities she posts, is:

Are you sure you don't have Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome?

Of course, the answer might involve TMI.

[gary]

this blog could never suffer from TMI...

[Bonnie]

I was about to type up a long response about the importance of valuing a person for themselves. Things like kindness, respect, honesty etc. But I think it would fall on deaf ears.

You go ahead and find that man that meets your laundry list of demands. Try not to be too suprised when things don't work out. You get what you ask for or rather deserve.

[Loki on the run]

Bonnie says:

I was about to type up a long response about the importance of valuing a person for themselves. Things like kindness, respect, honesty etc. But I think it would fall on deaf ears.

But that all self-deceptive bullshit designed to allow those with less er qualities to reach above their level of quality.

After all, the name of the game is "How to get the very best mate you can when your value is depreciating all the time." It involves elements of fooling others that your quality is greater than it is, as well as making decisions with less than perfect information.

It's clearly something that an economist would understand very well.

[cvh]

Jacqueline,

Yes! I absolutely agree with everything you posted and I can't imagine what you have to sort through everyday :-). My only complaint is that you posted that pic of the ugly man-chick at top of your page just to make your point - that was a bit uncalled for. Other than that...RIGHT ON!!

[Spungen]

Bonnie, I don't think the guys who are aggressively pursuing/harassing Jacqueline are doing so because they are so taken with *her* "kindness, respect, honesty etc." (Not that I'm saying she doesn't have those qualities.)

From what she tells us, it's guys who want her for the characteristics she's listed above, such as youth and appearance -- and, adding insult to injury, don't offer comparable qualities themselves. I don't see any indication that she doesn't *also* value the qualities you mentioned.

Haven't you ever had a relationship fall apart, then had to fight off the vultures? I can sympathize with her frustration.

[Anon]

Wow, you certainly do think highly of yourself. While you are not ugly I don't think you are that great looking myself, certainly not in the 86% range but I guess Photoshop can work wonders :) BTW, while we are talking about ratings, I give your personality/attitude a 0.0. Based on that I wouldn't even want to hang out with you let alone date you.

On the bright side, I think with your post you just narrowed down your dating pool to others with huge egos just like yourself so you should get along perfectly with whomever you find. You can sit around and complement each other, talk about how smart and beautiful you both are while laughing at the rest of the world and their inadequacies. Sounds like a blast! Yet don't be surprised when this perfect someone dumps your ass for someone better looking, younger, smarter or has a better financial statement.

[Some guy]

You look like Helen Hunt.

[The hard truth (come back to reality)]

HEY JACKIE, READ THIS...Let's call it "a wake up call"

Two things:

First, if you're so good-looking, with everything perfect in your life, why are you posting personal ads again?

Second, when you said, "This is in addition to getting hit on almost every time I go out alone", well, if you are so popular and well-liked, why are you going out alone? Shouldn't you have an insane "entourage" following you everywhere?

Truthfully, I've seen your picture. You are not attractive at all. You're a one-night stand. A guy wouldn't want to show off to their friends because they would get so much shit. You're not date worthy. And truthfully, no one gives a shit about 99.5% of your achievements. Were you trying to apply for a job by listing everything? Are those things even true or are they just a way to boost your self-esteem?

Wow...kind of pathetic.

[grant]

I'm not going to read all the comments. I just want to say thanks for making me realize that I should figure out what I consider quality. I tend to go with whoever takes the least effort to acquire. That's probably why I've never found a satisfying relationship of any significant duration.

[Loki on the run]

The hard truth (who sounds like he has taken a hard fall) says:

Truthfully, I've seen your picture. You are not attractive at all. You're a one-night stand. A guy wouldn't want to show off to their friends because they would get so much shit. You're not date worthy. And truthfully, no one gives a shit about 99.5% of your achievements. Were you trying to apply for a job by listing everything? Are those things even true or are they just a way to boost your self-esteem?

However, despite the fact that you find her not attractive you took the time to disparage her.

Sounds like sour grapes, and a common strategy among people when they are not getting what they want. Inject a little fear into the person who won't give them what they want.

[The Hard Truth]

No Loki,

I just cannot stand when an ugly girl talks a lot of shit. If she was really hot, I wouldn't say anything, because she's justified in being a bitch.

This girl, she's just incorrect in her judgment of herself. Couldn't keep my mouth shut.

And besides Loki, I have a feeling, you are actually Jackie just disguising yourself. Good attempt. But WOW, the post still sucks.

[anon]

The Hard Truth:

You sound like a bunch of baloney. She's not an ugly chick. She's hot enough that nobody need be embarrassed by her.

She's got problems for sure, but she's not ugly.

[Loki on the run]

The Hard Truth says:

And besides Loki, I have a feeling, you are actually Jackie just disguising yourself. Good attempt. But WOW, the post still sucks.

Wow. Over here at Sex and Shanghai I have been called an ass-kisser, and now it has been suggested that I am a good looking young female. Not bad work.

[mk]

Great post. I would definitely not make it onto your list, but I couldn't help but agree with what you said. Don't settle because, well, you don't need to and you don't want to.

[Ian Clifton]

It's amazing how many people are quick to jump on you for putting everything out there. Personally, I think it's better to be honest with yourself and everyone else. Though you do come off slightly (not largely) arrogant, it's with good reason. You've worked for what you have. Of the women I know, those who have actually worked for what they have (rather than just having it given to them) tend to have far better personalities.

You may want to be wary about the "requirements" you have for "high quality" men though (of course I'm a guy, so what do I know?). I wouldn't consider financially successful "high quality" (as opposed to a generous person who volunteers a lot, for instance). Must be atheist? I assume that's because you've dealt with too many people of X religion, who are rather forceful of that (eat my religion or go to hell!!); just realize there are plenty of people of various religions who would never bring up that difference (or never go to church if that's an issue).

Good look with your search and reading all the hate comments, haha.

[The Hard Truth]

If you think the older, uglier sister of Molly Shannon is good looking, I guess, sure, ok, no I still can't see it. She's really ugly.

Hey, this is just the market speaking.

Jackie, did you change your name to ANON?

[Loki on the run]

No one has yet suggested that Jacqueline's post is a parody of Evo Psycho pronouncements ... oops, I just did.

[The Hard Truth]

If you think the older, uglier sister of Molly Shannon is good looking, I guess, sure, ok, no I still can't see it. She's really ugly.

Hey, this is just the market speaking.

Jackie, did you change your name to ANON?

[gary]

come on, let's have some restraint here. Jackie just needs to learn to moderate some of the things she says, but then it is her blog and you don't have to come here if you're not entertained. She gives as good as she gets. If she's willing to put it all out there, then she's willing to take what comes her way in terms of comments.

Insulting how she looks is not exactly rising above the level. You can say that you don't think she's attractive by your standards and that would be far. As for market, just as Jackie doesn't represent the market for men or for what men want, ...well...

Let her have her say, though I really do hope that she learns some tact and humility. but perhaps she felt the need to say what she said in the way she said it because of what she's gone though.

I'm not a big fan of J, not in love with her etc, but fair is fair.

About 40% of white women between the ages of 25-34 have undergraduate degrees or higher. I believe this is the demographic that is most relevant. I do not want to discuss why there is a difference between the educational achievement statistics of various ethnic groups because to do so with a Libertarian is completely pointless.

[Loki on the run]

Noname says:

About 40% of white women between the ages of 25-34 have undergraduate degrees or higher. I believe this is the demographic that is most relevant. I do not want to discuss why there is a difference between the educational achievement statistics of various ethnic groups because to do so with a Libertarian is completely pointless.

Perhaps you would care to tell us why more than 40% of East Asian women in that bracket have undergraduate degrees or higher?

Perhaps it is pointless because your views for the reasons are simply fairy tales?

[Spungen]

If Loki is really Jackie, she's been setting the ruse up for a long time.

No desirable guy would waste his time disparaging a woman in such a crude fashion. Obviously, she must be out of THT's league -- otherwise, he'd just ignore her. He sounds like exactly the sort of guy she's complaining about, which probably hit a nerve.

[The Hard Truth]

I think Jackie keeps using fake names to prove her point. I'm bored with this. I've made my point.

[Will Chamberlain]

I lol'd.

Jacq, you don't suck, but you certainly aren't nearly as awesome as you portray yourself...imo you overrate your positive traits while entirely omitting your more negative ones. (That might be assholish, but whatever, you started it.) That said it looks like this post achieved your objective...you certainly aren't going to have as many suitors. But when you change your mind you might find that the market has dried up.

Whatever. It's easy to criticize a post like this. And tactfulness is pretty unfunny.

[The Hard Truth]

She is just an ugly girl. There's absolutely nothing more to it than that. It's simple.

[David Zetland]

A kick-ass post. I didn't read all the comments, but I wanted to congratulate you for putting on the pants and showing guys what they look like to women. (Although I am a guy, I have tried to pay attention to this.)

I think that you said all the right things, but then again I am also in the demographic you are interested in. (Too bad that I'm dating and geographically undesirable :)

Oh yeah - take off the pants when you are done. I am sure you look better in a dress.

[thimscool]

You should craft a form letter that says, "I'm sorry, [NAME], but on my spreadsheet of love, you do not compute. I suggest that you look for women at the bowling alley. [link to this blog post]. Sincerely, Jacqueline Mackie Paisley Passey"...

Just a suggestion.

[Individualist Woman]

I agree with Gary that Jacqueline just needs to moderate some of the things she says. I had some of that sort of black-and-white kind of thinking going on when I was younger, and that really softened up as I grew up.

That and my comment about needing to denigrate someone else to make oneself feel better about oneself applies to that kind of comment like "She is just an ugly girl." She has her faults (as do we all), but she's clearly not a physically ugly girl to most people nor in any sort of objective sense.

Let's assume for a moment that:

Total Quality equals the sum of Positive Qualities minus the sum of Negative Qualities, or

TQ = PQ - NG

In this entry, part of the equation is blatantly missing.

[DRex]

You'd be hot if you didn't have that giant forehead or a chin that's stronger than mine.

[Snarky the Ferret]

And you're modest too!

I'll take your word for it that you're intelligent, educated, sex-crazed, etc., but you're certainly not attractive. You have a big forehead, a pointy chin, and asymmetrical eyes (your left eye droops, it looks weird). Also you have the kind of looks that will just get worse with age; your mouth will stretch to the back of your head in a Joker-like look (like Mary Tyler Moore).

It doesn't help that that you can't smile. Every picture you try to smile in you look like you're about to shoot somebody.

[DRex]

If one of my children married one of your spawn, I would abort their children.

[Dakota]

The real question is if they fit the list, then actually date you do they stick around after realize most of the time you look like this:

http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/photos/2006newyorkcity/cimg0546.html

[anon]

The Hard Truth is obviously one of the jilted would-be lovers.

I just googled Molly Shannon. She ain't half bad. I'd take her home to show to my moms.

Hard Truth, I respect J. because she puts herself out there, and doesn't hide behind a nome de plume. You're the ugly one here. I'm willing to bet half my billion dollar fortune that you're really ugly. Wanna bet?

[Tennis Guy]

Jacqueline:

I don't think your standards are too high--after all, I meet all of them. What is surprising is the large number of hapless dudes who would waste their time hitting on you via email. Although, I wonder how you're able to determine the extent to which they meet your requirements via email? That's why I avoid sites like Match.com. I need to talk to the person face-to-face to see if there's anything there, particularly in the "chemistry" department.
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[Dakota]

The real question is do they stick around after realize most of the time you look like this:

http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/photos/2006newyorkcity/cimg0546.html

[Dakota]

The real question is do they stick around after realize most of the time you look like this:

http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/photos/2006newyorkcity/cimg0546.html

[Dakota]

The real question is do they stick around after realize most of the time you look like this:

http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/photos/2006newyorkcity/cimg0546.html

[gary]

This always happens...first there's at least some interesting rational rebuttals and then there's some defensive rebuttals, then aggresive ones, and then the down right ugly ones.

What's the point of the ugly ones?

Play nice people!

[Loki on the run]

Well, Dakota, we know you're not that smart if you can't figure out how to make a link for us of Snakes on Planes with Jacqueline.

[Jeremy]

With all due respect, Jackie, this makes you sound awfully superficial. There's nothing wrong with that if that's truly who you are. Maybe you are - I don't know you.

But I'm venturing a guess that you're deeper than that, and you're simply being blunt about something that most people don't like to talk about. I respect honesty - but I respect reflection just as much. You kind of remind me of a friend of mine who falls for the same types of people all the time and is always wondering why they never work out. Having these kinds of standards, in my experience, does more to obscure a relationship than to enhance it. Sometimes working through an initial turn off opens the door to a new dimension of connection to another because it redefines a once unexplored area of the self (Yes, that's a free pop psych analysis, send your quarter in!).

We all have superficial "standards" - what matters in the end is what makes us happy. That's a complex question that requires a bit deeper thought and self knowledge than a list that can be posted on a blog. I hope you find somebody who makes you happy, and if he happens to be John Galt, well, great! :-)

[anon]

"The Hard Truth" is even a bigger loser than Wayne Van####... it's so funny...

[Tennis Guy]

Dakota:

Ouch! She looks like about a size 12 in that pic.
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[Jeremy]

If she's willing to put it all out there, then she's willing to take what comes her way in terms of comments.

Yeah, that's what surprises me. It's such an intimate thing to make public like this. On the one hand, that shows remarkable confidence and openness, which I respect thoroughly. On the other hand, the superficiality of her post attracts equally or surpassingly superficial responses.

The upside of all of this: perhaps in being so honest with us she can be honest with herself. I'm not saying she's not being honest: she may truly believe the things she's saying. But sometimes when we put an idea or opinion into writing, leave it, and come back to it a bit later, we start to notice some aspects of ourself that we're not happy with. That's the great thing about blogging - it's a great reflection of your personality, warts and all.

I admire Jackie for being so forthright. She has flaws, like Individualist Woman pointed out, just like the rest of us. And they come through the blog just like on all of our blogs. The potential, I suppose, is that through that mirroring feature one can learn and grow. I'm not saying that what she's saying is "wrong" - I'm saying that she may find it's not the whole truth of the matter.

[Spungen]

Kudos to critics like anon and Gary for distinguishing themselves from the icky trolls like THT.

One can't analyze one's standards unless one is willing to acknowledge them. I think Jackie's approach is preferable to kidding herself that she falls for flashy guys because it's fate or something. Or inventing an admirable character for a guy who's really just rich or hot.

[akromper]

I'm confident that what I say doesn't matter to her and doubt she would pay attention to me either. I call her a wench and get away with it cuz she's open and free with this conversation, good and bad, and it's her blog. Would I be entertained by her? Hell yes, she seems a total kick in the pants. Agree with her on everything? Nah but who cares. I'm tired of undatable girls (yes, it's subjective) sticking to me too.

[Equus Pallidus]

Jacqueline, I bet your farts don't stink either.

[MT]

Hmmm. Not sure what I think about that. I suspect Miss Manners would disapprove. Why not a clear but kind general-purpose e-mail you send in reply to all uninteresting queries? Also I think you're conflating undesirable, low-quality men with e-mailed resumes and photos and prose styles you don't like. You have stringent criteria in those areas, which preclude meeting and getting to know many guys who might rock your world. This "quality" business is unnecessary and unkind chutzpah. Your criteria sound fashionable and even biologically mainstream, but unless you've founded some religion I don't know about, they're not "the best." Your IQ score at three is based on how well other three year-old females did on the same test. I'm not an expert on child development, but given that infants acquire the ability to speak plus or minus a year around then, I'm sure the scatter in the distribution of scores is huge, not to mention that all kinds of intellectual capacities are developing into and beyond puberty, and I doubt they correlate so well with how good you are at the things 3 year-olds can do. Knowing and therefore assuming nothing about you, I suspect the odds are quite high that what you'd score now against your age peers would be very different. I don't think you've got much of a basis to guess, so it seems self-serving, if not ignorant that you do. Finally, how about not posting a glamor shot or any photo at all? The response of these lovelorn guys is entirely predictable and well within the realm of free speech, human rights, civility and even nobility.

[Erin]

I've enjoyed all the comments posted here whether positive, negative, or downright nasty... freedom of speech and expression is very cool indeed.

But I frankly do not see what the big brouhaha is all about. Jacqui has made a list of what she does and does not like and has put it into writing, for all the world to see. I'm not defending her list, but I am certainly championing her right to write it.

Whether we admit it or not, we all have our own lists. They definitely contain things that we would prefer not to mention because they make us look shallow. For example, you have to be attracted to the person you're with. Sure, we're all attracted to different types. But no matter what your type, by default, you will eliminates certain physical types from your list. You may not want to admit it, but it is true.

Jacqui has put her likes and dislikes into words. And if her list is different from your own, that's awesome. Because we're all different. We all have our own priorities, needs, and desires. And I actually think that it's a great idea to try and put them into written words because that may help us to clarify our thoughts.

The one thing I don't understand is the attack/counter-attack here. We're all individuals who quite clearly have strong and different personalities and opinions. No one is going to convince Jacqui that she is wrong and no she isn't going to convince us that we are wrong.

If her post is so offensive, then clearly you don't want to be part of her pool of "quality men", so why bother arguing? Why don't we all just live and let live? Variety is the spice of life; don't stamp it out.

[Individualist Woman]

Maybe I missed a post, but I don't think anyone here has challenged her right to write it.

[Dakota]

Thanks Loki. I didn't know proper HTML formatting is a new intelligence test. Besides I am not the one publicly claiming that I am more intelligent than 99.5% of people. I am lucky if three of my brain cells are getting along on any given day. But the fact remains.

The entire post rests on this assertion "I’m attractive. My new picture has been rated more attractive than 86% of the women on Hot or Not". That assertion is not a "fact" despite how loudly she claims it is. Its argument by assertion, putting a glamour shot of yourself on "Hot or Not.com" is actually really funny and ironic.

How many men from her self identified "league" do you think spend time on an internet site rating the attractiveness of strangers?

Anyway its not worth much of my time arguing with this woman or her sycophants.

[Loki on the run]

Wow, the fallout on this has reached other blogs:

She is pitiable. She is trying to avoid falling into a depression, so she enumerates her blessings. But she knows that an American woman of her qualities has almost no chance of marrying and staying married. I think she is divorced. She is certainly not going steady for a long time. Poor girl.

Even if were of her age group and single, I would not touch her with a ten feet pole. Mejor perderlo que ganarlo, as we used to say in our barrio. Better to lose her than get her.

[Equus Pallidus]

But I frankly do not see what the big brouhaha is all about. Jacqui has made a list of what she does and does not like and has put it into writing, for all the world to see. I'm not defending her list, but I am certainly championing her right to write it.

My list of requirements for a women:

1) Stay at home Mom
2) Religious God fearing
3) Doesn't speak until spoken to.
4) Does all the cooking and cleaning.

[Equus Pallidus]

Wow, the fallout on this has reached other blogs:

hehehe

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2006/08/train-wreck-in-progress.html

[Salt]

EP, you forgot a flat head and no teeth.

Oh the firestorm. (sigh) I think it is good that you are stating these things out loud. A lot of men do need to know where they stand. No cute, smart woman wants to deal with some dumb, over the hill schlub. GOOD FOR YOU! Say it loud, say it proud and stand up for the eradication of the double standard.

[anonagirl]

Oh the firestorm. (sigh) I think it is good that you are stating these things out loud. A lot of men do need to know where they stand. No cute, smart woman wants to deal with some dumb, over the hill schlub. GOOD FOR YOU! Say it loud, say it proud and stand up for the eradication of the double standard.

[PapaBryant]

I followed the link from another site, and while Jaqueline certainly scores higher than average marks in the "cute" catagory, after reading her list of qualifications - specifically "must be atheist,..." - I have grave concerns as to whether she is intelligent enough to go out with.

I simply could not go out with a girl who was not capable of discussing hypostasis in Semitic literature. Why, she might make the faux pas of saying the Trinity was a Greek construct....

((Rolls eyes))

[Equus Pallidus]

say it proud and stand up for the eradication of the double standard.

That is just so 70's.

[rfjason]

OMG the comments column is longer than the either of the links columns. I think this is another first.

[somnilista, FCD]

No more Terrence, no more need to learn Cantonese.

Good point. You might try dating someone from Sezchuan, the food is better.

[low-quality man]

uhmm, you'd be higher quality if you had a human jaw rather than that rather large insect-like mandible.

[Loki on the run]

PapaBryant says:

I simply could not go out with a girl who was not capable of discussing hypostasis in Semitic literature. Why, she might make the faux pas of saying the Trinity was a Greek construct...

You don't have to be a theist to be able to discuss fairy tales intelligently ...

[Undertoad]

I'm 42. 15 years ago, I married top quality.

But a few years ago, my wife divorced me, because she had all the quality and was continuing to improve... and I was in a slow decline.

My business went south, my motivation suffered, I put on weight, became less attractive. Then I was no longer good enough for her. She treated me harshly, and from time to time, even with contempt.

That harshness and contempt was exactly what I didn't need when I was having failures and problems. I needed some reassurance, that I was trying to do the right things and that I was a good person and was capable of greatness. I needed someone to believe in me. But I had lost too much quality for her, and all she ever did was complain and bring me further down.

Now two years later, I'm back on my feet. I've found my motivation. I'm losing weight.

And I've got a new woman, and now, with benefit of wisdom, I can see more clearly what QUALITY really is.

My new woman is not perfect. She's a little overweight. She has no savings. She rents! Her education is not at the best schools. She is not younger than I am. Some days she may have trouble holding all her shit together.

But when I see the look of love in her eyes, I know that I have found the one QUALITY that is more important than any other: A BIG HEART.

And I respond in kind. Hey, you know, good sex doesn't require a tight little willing bod. Good sex requires response between two people. She responds to me and I respond to her. A BIG HEART cares about the other person, and as such, brings a stronger sense of intimacy and connection.

Looks and age fail you faster than you know. The more stock you put in youth and hot-or-not, the less your holdings will be in 10, 20 years. Being a decade and a half older and looking at the personal ads, I recognize the women for whom attractiveness is/was their stock in trade. And what might have made sense at 28 is damn pathetic at 42...

As you age, what keeps you attractive is not what made you attractive in the first place. A BIG HEART, to those who understand the importance of it, makes a women ten times more attractive, no matter what her base is.

My new woman's heart is so big that it gives me energy. Gives me the will to improve myself and the support to get it done. I want to be a good man for her. I want to take us to the life of our dreams. She improves me, just by being herself.

And the ex with all that quality? She's developed a facial tic from the anxiety of trying to keep that up. She's spent some of her precious savings on plastic surgery. She lost too much weight at one point and it gave her a harsh look. She's tossed out another nice guy because he wasn't quality and is serial dating looking for quality.

She is quality. But she is sad.

Live and learn.

[Telnar]

Planning to date includes signaling problems.

I suspect that a relationship will be more stable over time if two people are attracted to each other at least in part for reasons that apply to only a small fraction of the population of potential dates. Complementary personality quirks or interests aren't necessarily more important than more generic features like attractiveness or income, but they are likely to make that person seem more desirable than average for the set of people finding the decision maker desirable, making it less likely that someone better will appear.

The signaling problem comes in because there isn't always an easy way to tell how much of someone else's interest is based on specific vs generic attributes. This leaves someone who is desirable because of generic features with a signaling problem: how to identify who finds her desirable at least in significant part based on her non-generic characteristics.

One possible response to this is to look for expressions of interest from those who are likely to have many other choices with comparable generic characteristics. Arguably, that's what Jacqueline is doing here.

There are other ways to achieve this goal for those with a different temperament. One of them would be to conceal generic characteristics, but not specific ones (e.g. by not putting a picture on a blog, or by ducking questions about one's income, while talking at length about one's beliefs, attitudes, goals....)

[PapaBryant]

You don't have to be a theist to be able to discuss fairy tales intelligently ...

I didn't know there was a version of the Grimm fairy tales in Akkadian?

But since I read the Grimm fairy tales (in English) and nothing in them even remotely resembles the quasi-personification of attributes proper to a deity, occupying an intermediate position between personalities and abstract beings, this must be the case of another atheist/skeptic who, when a theist throws out terms they are unfamiliar with, resorts to cutsy sound bites because they don't know what they are talking about.

Ya know, for a group of people who don't believe in God, they sure do think their His gift to the ignorant masses.

You're dismissed. ((waives hand)) Shoo, shoo...

[Rich]

Is this satire?
Given the infantile prose and erm, bland picture I’m just not sure. The ‘hot or not’ bit makes me think ‘yes’. No emotionally balanced adult is likely to partake, no reasonable mind would ascribe scientific validity to its ratings.

[Loki on the run]

PapaBryant says:

But since I read the Grimm fairy tales (in English) and nothing in them even remotely resembles the quasi-personification of attributes proper to a deity,

IQ: About 100 ... perhaps less ...

[Tennis Guy]

.
"How many men from her self identified "league" do you think spend time on an internet site rating the attractiveness of strangers?"

touché!
.
.

[Equus Pallidus]

Too bad you metrosexual pretty boys didn't grow up in the south where men are men and women are submissive.

[PapaBryant]

Try 154. Three time National Dean's list (only .5% of all student make the list once) at the University of North Florida double majoring in philosophy and Ancient Near Eastern History. And currently writing a column for the local paper's web portal on religion and popular culture.

And your qualifications, Sparky?

[Loki on the run]

Try 154. Three time National Dean's list (only .5% of all student make the list once) at the University of North Florida double majoring in philosophy and Ancient Near Eastern History. And currently writing a column for the local paper's web portal on religion and popular culture.

And your qualifications, Sparky?

Touched a nerve there, I see.

[Equus Pallidus]

By the way, for future reference, a woman with a college degree is a negative to most stable men.

[PapaBryant]

Nawwwww, not at all. Just checking to see if I should tone down my rhetoric for the kiddie table. And from your evasiveness in giving your "credentials", I should...

[PapaBryant]

***Note to Loki - Right about now is when you should trot out the "This is not very Christian of you" cannard. Just in case you forgot your script...

[Standard Mischief]

wow, shitload of comments.

I liked this part:

Look in the developing world. If you’re literate with a home computer and an internet connection you are very wealthy compared to the rest of the world. Citizenship or legal permanent residency in a rich country makes you more attractive to women in poorer countries. Your value on the dating market is thus much higher there.

I was on a feminist blog, and they had one of their regularly occurring bitch posts about men going overseas to score a bride. While admitting that that's probably not the method for myself, I pointed out (with cites) that:

1.The relationships seem to work, on average, better than when both partners were from the USA (“seem to work” = stayed married)
2.In the case of abuse, US Immigration allows the foreign born partner to get divorced, stay in the USA, and keep the green card. So there's an “early out” option that does not seem to get exercised very often.

I was attempting to call them on their stereotyping of all these men that seek out overseas brides as controlling abusing subhumans. They also seemed to like to perpetuate the stereotype that the foreign born woman were all just manipulating actors that just wanted entry to the USA.

Then the kicker:

3.I pointed out that the feminist “first-wavers” allied way-back when with the Temperance movement and voted in Prohibition and voted out legal prostitution. I assumed the first wavers supported this stuff because it might make better husbands if they weren't always liquored up and whoring around. I then questioned their opposition to foreign born partners, whether it was really because of concern for the third world women, or was is just merely protecting the “domestic market” for domestic partners.

Needless to say, that didn't go over too well.

To the nay-sayers who claim Jacq is stuck-up and snooty, I'd like to remind you that she makes a living with her blog, and with this post, I suppose she has exceeded her expectations. Better than Taboo Topic week.

[jay]

"Three time National Dean's list (only .5% of all student make the list once) at the University of North Florida"

I don't think there's any such thing as the "National Dean's List." Is that one of those "Who's Who" books where they put you in it and then charge you $69.95 + s/h for a handsome hardcover to put on your shelf?

"double majoring in philosophy and Ancient Near Eastern History"

Yes, I'd like fries with that.

[Crom]

Our hostess here has made some vain statements, and her monumental arrogance is what caused all this fuss. While I am certain that she has her share of internet stalkers and lonely hearts fanboy club, recognize that any marginally attractive female who likes sci-fi, sex and guns could have a huge web following. Let's not forget, posting an airbrushed glamour shot of yourself is not exactly truth in advertising.

As to your list, Ms. Passey, it is amusing that you encourage your male readership to lower their standards or seek offshore brides. I do agree with your exhortation to improve one's self, which is always a laudable goal. Still, all these new visitors to your blog are not here because they are new fans and subscribers, they are here to view your arrogant train wreck masquerading as The Unattainable Quality Woman.

[jay]

Found it:

http://www.thenationaldeanslist.com/1whoweare/history.aspx

Yes, it's one of those books where you get "nominated" and then pay for the book.

[PapaBryant]

Yes, I'd like fries with that.

Awwwwwwwww, so this is one where they pass the ball to someone else when they can't come up with something clever to retort with! That's O.K. Loki, you gave it a good try. ((rolls eyes))

Now, Jay... I ask you the same question. What qualifications do you have to discuss religion in an authoritative way? (HINT:Cliched insults don't count. Was that really the best you could come up with?)

I'm calling you out, boy. Either you have something worth debating or you're just another waste of my time. A know-nothing with a nasty attitude and nothing to back it up.

Prove to me that you're not just some 15 year old pissed at his parents for not getting him a PSP for Christmas, so you're not going to believe in God until they get it for you.

heheheheheh

[David Ottosen]

Such hate. Let me say this: if you think you don't meet her standards, move on. If her standards are too high, the "market" will speak and she'll end up alone. She's alone right now, so take that as your "revenge". There's no reason to take things so personally.

She doesn't owe you a relationship, and, while it would be nice if she was more tactful about the reasons why, she doesn't owe you that either. Of course, you don't owe it to her to be nice either, so carry on if you feel like taking her down a peg. In the end, you're only likely to make yourself more upset about it, as I'm sure she really won't care (or better, appreciate the attention, because a blog can't make money without attention).

[the observationalist]

Wow. You know what's sad about women like you, Jackie? You have absolutely no idea how boring you are.

[Lab_Frog]

"He should be intelligent, ethical, healthy and fit, monogamous, kind, generous, very affectionate and sexual. No married men, smokers, STDs, or religion, and must be pro-choice and pro-gay rights. For long-term compatibility he should be a libertarian and share a lot of my interests and hobbies."

Jacqueline is getting all these hate comments because of the above requirements for dating and because she has a healthy self-esteem? Some human behavior is weird.

Thanks Wayne for pointing out that my comment with the movie Froggg was not spam. If I was involved in the movie it would have had a happier ending for the frog creature.

[PapaBryant]

Yes, it's one of those books where you get "nominated" and then pay for the book.

Yes Jay, they try to sell you a book - but it is your professors who nominate you....

Did any of your professors nominate you? Oh, thats right. You're 15. Sorry...

[Loki on the run]

PapaBryant says ...

***Note to Loki - Right about now is when you should trot out the "This is not very Christian of you" cannard. Just in case you forgot your script...

I wonder who is projecting, eh. Christians can be what they want to be and in my observation they are just as two faced as the rest of us are.

As to my credentials, I grew up and was educated in another country so they are not relevant and I don't feel a need to trot them out and I have never been told the results of any IQ tests I may have taken. However, if it helps you to feel better I am happy to stipulate that your IQ ie way over mine.

If it's of any use, my daughter qualifies for 999.

[LOL]

Did you just come from planet Xenu?

[chimpansy]

I love how this has turned into yet another internet aspie pissing contest. Do you people ever stop trying to impress each other and/or everyone else?

[PapaBryant]

And they run away...

Seriously Jacqueline, your arrogance is very unattractive. Learn humility - perhaps by re-examining the question of God. I suspect you looked at it in a very superficial way, and by examining in more depth you will find a new perspective. Not a downer, but appreciative of the gifts you have.

A good self-esteem is wonderful, but inner joy - now THAT'S attractive.

[Jocelyn]

...is this piece meant to be a parody of some current state of new feminism gone bad? Please say yes.

[David Alexander]

So is putting down the internet porn and stepping away from the fleshlight.

Dude, I wish I had known about that years ago. Who needs women when a product like that exists.

After having read most of the posts, I don't see what's wrong with Jacqui wants. Everybody male or female has high aspirations for their mate, but the problem is that in many cases, it's quite hard to meet those aspirations. I'd like to meet a hot porn starish type girl that loves high heels and nails, and who believes in my non-libertarian philosophies, doesn't mind my religious beliefs, and will love me despite my lack of a current or future income, but I know that I'll be waiting longer than others if I stick with these standards. I wish others would as well. I believe that Jacqui understands what she's getting into, and that in the long run, her filtering will probably lead towards some type of sucess in the long run.

[PapaBryant]

I wonder who is projecting, eh. Christians can be what they want to be and in my observation they are just as two faced as the rest of us are.

To paraphrase W.F. Buckley, I am a Christian by belief, but tempermentally I am not of the breed. Act like a stereotype, you get treated like a stereotype.

As to my credentials, I grew up and was educated in another country so they are not relevant and I don't feel a need to trot them out and I have never been told the results of any IQ tests I may have taken. However, if it helps you to feel better I am happy to stipulate that your IQ ie way over mine.

Now its my turn to be concilliatory - your education and credentials ARE important - they allow you to defend your beliefs. If you hold a position you need to be able to defend it - and from your comments you hold a position that less than 10% of the world holds.

Being from a foreign country surely you recognized my initial post as mild sarcasm - an art form completely lost to most Americans. But the response you gave was typical of the type of atheists who act and behave better than everyone else, but who in fact have very little knowledge of what they are ridiculing. If I have misjudged you based on your responses, then you have my apologies; if I haven't, then you got what you deserve - the same contempt that it sounds like you dished out. "Do unto others..."

If it's of any use, my daughter qualifies for 999.

As the father of a special needs daughter myself, then concider yourself blessed, whether you believe in God or not.

Goodnight.

[ill pass on you]

If you need to cite statistics to sell yourself as a decent date, you should probably re-examine your approach. Furthermore, your claim that women aren't interested in economics, politics, and other "manly" exploits is totally inaccurate. And for the record, this critique comes from a girl thinner, prettier and younger than you, and I went to Harvard.

I look forward to stealing your boyfriend.

[rfjason]

And I've got a new woman, and now, with benefit of wisdom, I can see more clearly what QUALITY really is.

My new woman is not perfect. She's a little overweight. She has no savings. She rents! Her education is not at the best schools. She is not younger than I am. Some days she may have trouble holding all her shit together.

But when I see the look of love in her eyes, I know that I have found the one QUALITY that is more important than any other: A BIG HEART.

No, what you have is a silver medal. You went and found a woman you could impress. All of a sudden, she actually had a man that was thoroughly out of her league corting her. Of couse any B-grade woman is going to do WHATEVER it takes to hold on to that.

What you have isn't love, my friend. It's a marriage of convenience.

Surprisingly, it's your gigantic forehead that keeps me from fanboydum not your ridiculously unwarrented arrogance.

[rfjason]

Sounds like PapaBryant is one of those self-righteous trump cards who lays himself down where ever he can in an attempt to shame the entire room into believing in God, his backwards self-hate doctrine, and exhume a few of his personal demons by unleashing unfounded vitriol on the crowd.

I feel very sorry for you, Bryant. I pity your existence and I pity the people who submit to you.

[David Alexander]

No, what you have is a silver medal. You went and found a woman you could impress. All of a sudden, she actually had a man that was thoroughly out of her league corting her. Of couse any B-grade woman is going to do WHATEVER it takes to hold on to that.

If a male should be paranoid that a woman who likes him is just latching on to him because she can't do better, then maybe some men should consider not dating at all, and consider their local prostitute.

[PW]

So I finish reading through this entire thing, and I'm like "Wow, this is a hardcore bitch. And maybe, just maybe, I can look beyond her gigantic forehead and see that she has a point if it turns out she really is that legit."

I go to your bio to see where you went to school (because I figured you had a PhD in Women's Studies from Harvard or something) and back up that educated/IQ claim.

Here's a reality check: You went to Western Washington University. You have a 145 IQ? Riiiiight....and I have a fourteen inch cock.

[rfjason]

Who said anything about paranoia? Any person on the street who saw Mr. Undertoad and Ms. Silver Medal would look at them and go, "he can do SO much better," or "what did she do to keep him, get PREGNANT?"

It's not hard to see a situation for what it is.

[angela smith]

You're are the picture perfect narcissist. I am sure you'll have great luck with the men! At least those who are gluttons for punishment, and there are lots of those characters around.

[panthan]

A number of the comments seem to boil down to, "I don't think your picture is attractive". Which is asinine, since (a) Jacqueline probably really doesn't care, and (b) she has hard data in the form of men hitting on her in person.

And we all know that pictures are seldom reliable guides. My wife is a case in point. She's the most beautiful woman I've ever met, but it doesn't come through in photos. I've no doubt we all know women who are far more attractive in person than their pictures convey.

In any case, I'm amused by all the brouhaha. So Jacqueline lists as her demands a man who is fit, intelligent, and financially secure. 'Educated' and 'attractive' are personal judgments, but still perfectly reasonable. Would you want your daughter to date somebody fat, stupid, and financially incontinent? She states that there are scads of men who meet these requirements (who are therefore 'quality' men); so many that she can then narrow the list to well-off atheists who like guns and travel, et cetera. Additional requirements that are not part of being 'quality', but in addition to. So it isn't that she's being all that flipping elitist.

And so what? Is the offensive part that she suggests that ninety per cent of us go shopping at the third-world outlets of Brides'R'Us? Is it her suggestion that, having not met her criteria, we go in search of "fat single moms" -- maybe lower-quality men could lurk about the local welfare office? Is it that she thinks it's okay to say to most men something like "you don't measure up -- can we be friends, instead?"

[Curious]

I wonder if numbers 2 to 5 would still find J attractive now after reading this post?

[Ed]

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

[tess]

Did anyone at all read Undertoad's comment? I think you've all forgotten the original topic here in your haste to compare IQ numbers.

If anyone here has made an intelligent response, it's that one. Quality isn't about IQ or education. Not about weight or age. It's all about love and acceptance.

How very flowerchild of me, eh?

Personally, I found her post a tad cocky but mostly sad. Just very sad. It's going to be a long lonely road trying to keep up with those goals, I think.

I happen to be one of those fat, single moms. Having three kids changes your body. I'll never be a size 3 again. ~le sigh~ And that my husband had the bad sense to die before me and leave me single is unfortunate. But someone recognized 'quality' in me and I'm now engaged. Hooray for happy endings!

Anyway, her post is sad but it's not offensive. With age and experience comes wisdom. She'll be there someday. Live and learn, right?

And she's not ugly. That's just a mean thing to say and it's uncalled for. Shame on you!

[Melvin]

What a twat!

[Phil Welch]

You went and found a woman you could impress. All of a sudden, she actually had a man that was thoroughly out of her league corting her. Of couse any B-grade woman is going to do WHATEVER it takes to hold on to that.

Some guys aren't into respecting their mate as an equal. That's probably the most comfortable option for most people. A relationship of equals is difficult.

[Jlam]

Wow. I think I TOTALLY fit your description of the guy you're looking for. Luckily, I married a sane woman and no longer have to deal with self-important twats.

What a relief!

[jay]

> Yes, it's one of those books where you get "nominated" and then pay for the book.
>
> Yes Jay, they try to sell you a book - but it is your professors who nominate you....
>
> Did any of your professors nominate you? Oh, thats right. You're 15. Sorry...

Lol, no, I went to a real school (15 years ago) where the professors weren't dumb enough to "nominate" their students for something like this, and the students weren't so full of themselves to either buy the book, or think being mentioned in it is something to brag about anonymously on a website later.

(and I'm not so full of myself that I think arguing religion with such a person, using blog replies, is a good use of time, despite his massive IQ)

[Phil Welch]

I’m attractive (my new picture has been rated more attractive than 86% of the women on Hot or Not -- and the women who upload their pictures are a self-selected sample that is probably already biased towards being more attractive than the general female population)

That's not a very good metric. Most people on Hot or Not are teenagers and people insecure about their appearance.

I’m intelligent (IQ tested at 145 when I was a child, which is 3 standard deviations above the mean -- higher than 99.85% of the population. Even if I’ve gotten dumber as I’ve aged I’m probably still at least a 130, which is higher than 97.5% of the population.)

This is flawed for reasons that have already been pointed out. You have intellectual interests though, which is worth more—intelligent people who don't act it can be annoying.

I have a strong libido and love having sex (my lover *never* has to beg, unless it’s for me to let him get some sleep!)

This probably isn't the thing to say to ward off stalkers, but if you're gonna brag about something.... :)

Wow. You're definitely hotter than 80% of women.

http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/photos/norwescon_friends_me/norwescon_077.html

[Patri Friedman]

I don't have much to add here, but I can sum up what I thought were the telling comments:

* Jacqueline is high quality in many ways, especially for the right type of guy. It's not arrogant to accurately describe one's strengths in a relevant context. And besides, having ended a relationship recently, she probably is feeling a little insecure, and celebrating her strengths is a great way of dealing with that. Not if it includes a denial of her weaknesses, but she was open about the need for self-improvement.
* However, I thought some commenters like IW were right that Jacqueline has some blind spots about what areas of self-improvement she needs. Frankly, she seems a bit neurotic, which many great people are (being Jewish, I can certainly attest to that), but is still a bit of a turn-off. I think that being a bit less emotional about her hot-button issues, dealing with whatever past issues are still causing her problems[1], etc. would do more for her desirability than learning to be a great cook. And *much* more for her happiness.
* High-quality is a mix of objective and subjective, and numerous commenters were right that J should be a little more careful slinging around insulting terms, given that. Empowered horny libertarian atheist gun wielders are some men's wet dream, and other men's nightmares. On the other hand, many of J's qualities are generally desirable, so it's not like she was totally off track.
* It's painful to do so, but it is probably worth thinking about to what degree you have contributed to relationship failures. The people I know who are still single by 28-30 are often that way for a reason, but rarely admit it.

[1] I think she should try MDMA. But then again, I guess I think that everyone should try MDMA.

80% of pre-op women, anyway.

[Spungen]

Hey, hasn't anyone noticed that she updated the blog with an example of one of the creeps that inspired this controversial post?

It's easy to see where someone faced with a barrage of that type of insulting "offer" (read: demand) might get a bit defensive about her right to have some standards.

[Hector]

Abiola Lapite would be a quality man by your standards, but I don't know whether he would consider you of high enough quality as a woman.

[Uncle]

One day you will find yourself curled up in a shower crying 'why isn't there anyone out there good enough?' followed by 'who am I?'. The harsh truth will make you realize that you are hopeless and unrealistic. I hope you get what you deserve.

[einzige]

Patri,

Agree wholeheartedly on the MDMA thing!

[Phil Welch]

I think she should try MDMA. But then again, I guess I think that everyone should try MDMA.

This footnoted a comment about dealing with past issues. How does MDMA work for that? (I'm personally curious.)

[Hector]

Ignore my snarky post above.

Would you consider what benefits you might gain by contacting a psychologist to work as a life coach with you?

[Yellow Fever]

Jackie, baby - you're WHITE - it could never work between us. Asian girls are absolutely insane in bed. White girls don't stand a chance.

[Phil Welch]

Hector might be an asshole, but there's a good point in saying that the human brain and the human mind are the most central determinants of our state of existence. The success of a human being at any task, by any metric, is largely due to psychology. In an ideal world, trained psychologists would be able to optimize one's own mental life to maximize well-being, mental health, and happiness. How many psychologists view their role this way as opposed to simply treating mental illness is an empirical question that merits further study.

[Cyan]

Every woman has the right to tell persistent men to get lost, but I do despair at the reasoning.

[Veronica]

Um. Statistically speaking:

%99.8 of fat, ugly people still get laid at some point
%87 of women get hit on everytime they leave the house, simply for having a pulse

The people that vote at Hot or Not are self-selected as well, so basically, you've been declared %86 hotter than other attention-deficient women by a crowds that is
%56 14 year olds that haven't lost thier virginity, yet.
%4 Old dudes in speedos.
%15 Drunk frat boys
%.3 Libertarians that only claim the title because they wish weeed was legal
%24 Pity votes from women that think the place skews unfairly towards scans from Maxim and transvestites.
%.7 margin of error

[Phil Welch]

And 78% of statistics are invented on the spot.

Yes, you're quite the catch.
P.S. Nice dork con pictures.

[Soup]

A very interesting and telling post indeed.

Hat tip to Vox Day for without his post I would never have perused this intellectually masturbatory missive.

I feel genuine pity for any man who falls into your clutches.

Proverbs 23:26-28 (King James Version)

26 My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe my ways. 27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit. 28 She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men.

[Jacob]

The other list items aside, I feel obligated to take issue with Jackie's use of the "Hot or Not" website as an evaluation of beauty. Women posting at "Hot or Not" are nearly universally overrated. Example: http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=ALOERYO-EQK. Honestly, is this girl a 9? Here's a quick formula I created for translating a "Hot or Not" rating into a realistic one: subtract 2.5. Even then, this is sometimes too high, as a few minutes perusing the site will show.

More seriously, it would not be difficult to come up with a laundry list of why ratings at "Hot or Not" cannot be trusted (quick hint: non-representative samples of both submitters and evaluators--and not in the ways that you suggest). I thought you studied economics; was there no econometrics course thrown in there anywhere? I know an 8.6 is an ego booster, but if you learned anything in college about stats, you should know better than this.

I had a lot of respect for you for your defense of gambling and your posts in general, but I lost a lot of that with this post. You say that you made this post because of creepy emails you have been getting from random men. Do you see any famous actresses/politicians/athletes/etc. making statements like this to deter stalkers? No. Why? Because part of being in the public eye is having to deal gracefully with the public--even the "lesser" members of the public that you (for right or wrong) deem unworthy of yourself. What would you think if Eva Longoria or Jessica Simpson (who, I'm guessing, have to deal with real life stalkers, and not the kind that simply contact you via email) released a similar statement? Why would you expect a different reaction when you do so?

Once you are public, you just have to take the good with the bad. You can't brag about a famous economist taking notice and even commenting on your blog and in the same breath complain about getting a few random, quasi-harassing emails. Well, as this post shows, you actually *can* do that, but you shouldn't expect people to react to it well.

[Bobert]

Wow, little lady...

You sure know how to stir up the natives...

[Phil Welch]

Eva Langoria and Jessica Simpson don't make their careers out of inciting large numbers of people to read their blogs.

[Jacqueline]

And we have topped 200 comments. Jason said we would but I did not believe him. Wow.

(I suspended the usual comments policy of no abusive comments / civil disagreement only for this post -- otherwise I think about half these comments would have had to be deleted -- but for those of you who are new here or old-timers who are wondering what the heck happened to the quality of comments discourse, please note that those rules are still in effect for the rest of the blog.)

[noneofyourbusiness]

The above list explains why I typically receive 50-100 (sometimes more) responses whenever I post personal ads.

Hon, just about ANY woman can do that, because most people who respond to personal ads don't even bother reading past the gender of the poster. If that.

[Dog of Justice]

Well, it's impractical to respond to everything that caught my interest in this gigantic trainwreck of a thread, so here's a few very random thoughts.

Jacqueline:
Men tend to be hard-wired to find younger women more attractive than older women -- learn some evolutionary psychology.

I don't know why you say this with such an arrogant tone. You have already used up most of the time in which this fact works to your advantage. If I were in your position, I would instead be rejoicing in the fact that this hard-wiring is weak enough that you will still be able to attract men with your intelligence even after you're over 30.

rfjason:
No, what you have is a silver medal. You went and found a woman you could impress. All of a sudden, she actually had a man that was thoroughly out of her league corting her. Of couse any B-grade woman is going to do WHATEVER it takes to hold on to that.

What you have isn't love, my friend. It's a marriage of convenience.

What Undertoad now has may not satisfy your definition of love, but the evidence suggests it does satisfy his. His mating market value constrains his options, but there is nothing that dictates that his only good choices are the ones he can barely attain, any more than your only good choices for what to eat for dinner are those you can barely afford.

My personal perspective: I know that I am capable of having a loving relationship with women "below my league"; I don't seek out such relationships because I'm actually looking for more than love in a relationship. Despite propaganda to the contrary, the word "love" is not all-encompassing.

PW:
Here's a reality check: You went to Western Washington University. You have a 145 IQ? Riiiiight....and I have a fourteen inch cock.

Universities do not perfectly sort the population by IQ. You're bothering to comment on the thread in the first place because her behavior is at least 3 standard deviations from the mean, right? Not necessarily in a good direction (I'm actually okay with her direct communication style, but I understand why it isn't normal), but IQ doesn't guarantee that.

panthan:
A number of the comments seem to boil down to, "I don't think your picture is attractive". Which is asinine, since (a) Jacqueline probably really doesn't care, and (b) she has hard data in the form of men hitting on her in person.

Perhaps more to the point, the sort of man Jacqueline is looking for would be interested in her primarily because of how she thinks, rather than how she looks. She does overestimate her beauty, but it doesn't matter; she only needs to pass a minimum threshold in the looks department, and staying physically fit is enough to accomplish that. Her overestimation of her rationality, e.g. fetus as destructive parasite rather than seed of great achievement, hurts her a thousand times more.

Phil Welch:
Some guys aren't into respecting their mate as an equal. That's probably the most comfortable option for most people. A relationship of equals is difficult.

Where does he imply that he doesn't respect his mate as an equal? No two people are exactly the same in attractiveness, intelligence, or other qualities; there are always differences, it's just a question of degree. The question is whether you cooperatively make decisions, or if you just have a submissive wife. I would give Undertoad the benefit of the doubt here and assume his marriage is not in the second class.

[Phil Welch]

DoJ, the guy all but admitted that his wife was inferior to him. It's very easy to have a relationship when you consider yourself superior to the other person, and the other person considers themselves inferior to you.

Dom/sub relationships are easier than equal/equal relationships. They are, no doubt, what most people end up with. Why were women oppressed? Besides the fact that they lacked the ability to avoid or fight repression (men having superiority of physical force, among other advantages), the reason men chose to oppress women is to maintain their (female) mates in a submissive position.

I see nothing with dom/sub relationships as long as both parties know where they stand. Sometimes one partner is dominant in one area of the relationship and submissive in another, but in basic ego terms, it's fine for one partner to think "I'm better than my partner" and for the partner to think "My partner is better than I deserve.".

[anon]

"Unfortunately for her, she's not anywhere nearly attractive enough to "date only the highest quality men"; if she's more attractive than 86 percent of the single women on the planet, I'll have to reconsider the notion of ever leaving the house again."

- Vox Day

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2006/08/train-wreck-in-progress.html

[Fabio]

In all seriousness, you're rather plain.

And judging by this post, quite crazy.

[Kevin Sykes]

Is this for real? Somebody let me in on the joke, please. I thought for sure this was a very well done spoof, and then I looked at the pictures... Someone who looks like this crazy bitch DOES exist, which makes me think it is NOT a joke. Then again, who could actually write:

"I am a very high-quality woman. I know that sounds arrogant, but let’s consider the facts:
I’m slim (whereas 62% of American women age 20 to 74 are overweight)
I’m attractive (my new picture has been rated more attractive than 86% of the women on Hot or Not -- and the women who upload their pictures are a self-selected sample that is probably already biased towards being more attractive than the general female population)"

Plus, I'm pretty sure the actor playing "Terrence" in those pictures was a rent-boy I hired on my last trip to Bangkok.

[Dog of Justice]

DoJ, the guy all but admitted that his wife was inferior to him.

Hmm, rereading his post, you're right. "Some days she may have trouble holding all her shit together." That pretty removes any doubt I was trying to give him the benefit of; sorry about that.

[Curious]

ok, now that's unfair. Terrence is an all around good guy and he doesn't deserve that comment.

Jackie on the other hand brought it on in the way she phrased her post. however, you have to remember that she derives income from this blog and from past experience she knows what will create a spike in traffic.

[JackGoff]

Give me a "silver medal" anytime over bullshit asshattery, rfjason. Thou dost posture too much.

[Undertoad]

People didn't want to get what I was saying so they put a shallow layer over it. Let me try it from another angle.

-- I was in a high league with my high league wife.

-- I experienced repeated failure which may or may not have been my fault.

-- I was no longer in my ex-wife's league, and she left me.

And pause. The first question in a real relationship is, what are you going to do when the shit hits the fan?

Because the shit WILL hit the fan, you know. While we're batting around statistics of 86% sexier, 82% smarter,... in 100% of lives, the shit will hit the fan.

Sexy and fun! Will you still be that way after the car accident? You can't walk more than a half mile without it hurting. Will your significant other still love you?

Big money earner! But your industry is outsourced and you're laid off. You might have to sell the house! Will your significant other still love you?

Young and slim! Good luck maintaining that one, it might be self-explanatory. I myself wound up on a presciption drug that changed my metabolism and put on a good 40 with the side-effects.

If you are pursuing a "league" or "medals" you are in a losing battle. Sooner or later, in a lifetime, the shit hits the fan. One or the other will no longer be in the "league". And then what?

[EVH]

I would have characterized the original post as merely brittle and sort of sad, but the suggestion that men go find a "fat single mother" to date if they don't measure up was beneath contempt.

I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone thinks they'll find a meaningful human relationship by grading people as though they were sides of beef. It's almost enough to make me feel sorry for her. Almost.

[tess]

I can't believe this is going on this strong STILL. Now I have to wonder which is worse, her post or us giving her 200+ comments.

Madness.

[Undertoad]

And on the topic of keeping your shit together --

We all have that kind of trouble. T'ain't one of us that isn't kind of screwed up in one way or the other. If you haven't found your particular peccadillo, if you haven't stubbed your toe on the walk of life, just wait. Perhaps yours may not have worked its way to the surface yet. Good luck.

Can we all move on now? You are all just feeding her ego and giving her more fluff for her statistics to back up her arrogance.

[Dog of Justice]

And on the topic of keeping your shit together --

We all have that kind of trouble. T'ain't one of us that isn't kind of screwed up in one way or the other. If you haven't found your particular peccadillo, if you haven't stubbed your toe on the walk of life, just wait. Perhaps yours may not have worked its way to the surface yet. Good luck.

I was not saying your marriage is "wrong"; in my first post I obviously defend your choice. I was simply retracting my statement that it is a marriage of equals. It isn't. And that's perfectly fine if it works for you. You just might want to be aware that it reduces the relevance of your message to many other readers of this blog.

[Lisa Williamson]

This blog reminds me of a classic cartoon in the New Yorker where a couple are doing dishes together, and the husband says, "These dishes are so spotless, I can see deep within my hollow, meaningless soul." Sweetheart, Jessica Simpson has a genius IQ... and you're no Jessica Simpson.

[MikeWC]

Interesting post. Jacqueline, do you believe you will be married by a certain age?

I suppose a prior question should be, is marriage the end goal of romantic relationships? If so, when will you accomplish this goal?

[John Galt]

I hope you find somebody who makes you happy, and if he happens to be John Galt, well, great!

hey, hey, after seeing the "On the Plane" photo I wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot perpetual motion machine!

[Timothy]

I finally figured out what this post reminds me of, and I feel sort of dumber because of it. There's this one episode of Friends where Ross makes a list of all of Rachel's qualities and faults and compares them to his current wife for whom he also makes a list. Her only fault is "She's not Rachel."

I don't know why I remember that one episode, because I didn't really watch Friends, but this post made me think of that.

Yeah, anybody can look amazing when they hire a professional who knows how to use lighting and photoshop. This post is so ridiculous, I'm only going to use the obvious. Sweetie, you're not really hot. You are completely and utterly average looking. The fact that you would even make a post like this makes me think you are well aware of that fact.

"I am a pretty, successful, desirable professional, and, gosh darn it, I AM worth it!"

Just get a cat already.

[Spike]

Hi there, Jacqueline,

I would have been long gone if not for Ed Brayton's fascination with your post!

My obsessive-compulsive nature made me read to the end.

The rest of your fan-base seems also to be o-c, else why so much activity?

When you rate yourself again include, "Wrote a post that merited sixty-five column inches of comments, and 99 trackbacks."

[Vic Davis]

Forehead? They should call it a fivehead.

[Andrew]

I wonder if she does anal.

Anyone?

I wonder if she realizes a size 12-14, which she clearly is close to, is not 'slender'. It puts her firmly in the "62% of American women age 20 to 74 are overweight" category. Sorry doll. You have a good 20-30 to go before you can claim to be 'slim'.

[Wayne]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Wayne Wiggins]

My friends, I have composed a list of what I find desirable in a mate.

1) She must be physically attractive.

I can end this list now because Jacqueline no longer qualifies.

[Adam G. Katz]

My girlfriend in Costa Rica and I are perfectly matched. Getting away from the American-style definitions of "What is quality" helped remove the blinders and started allowing me to view the type of woman that ** I ** really wanted. Without the influence of friends, family, society or religion. (Even as an independent thinker, I was surprised at the subtle influence of these factors which had so slyly affected my thinking).

You know what I got? I got a fantastic woman who I think is much higher quality than me.

And here's the kicker: She thinks the same about me!!!

(And I let her believe it.) ;)

Really though-- I think that's the definition of true, lasting love:

Being with someone who you think is an outstanding catch-- and having her think the same thing about you.

Be well.

- Adam.

Get your dog to listen to you, anywhere you go.
Dogproblems.com
http://www.dogproblems.com

[Colin]

If this approach works for Jacqueline, maybe I could try and tailor it to other areas of my life. Maybe this could be my ticket to a better tomorrow.

Alright, that does it. I'll quit my job as soon as possible. I'll start taking interviews with anyone who reads this, provided you fit into the following criteria:

- The job must allow me to take time of for my hobby of making indie films at my leisure. I am a better at the art of film making than 82% of the American public, so I must be able to flex my creative muscle from time to time.
- Pay must not be less than $750,000 a year. Being younger than approx. 83% of the American workforce, I deserve my chance to make my money since Social Security won't be around by the time I retire.
- I must be surrounded by people of great intellect. Having an IQ of 160, I cannot bring myself down to explaining things to the 'intellectually challenged.' If I cannot carry on a conversation with my coworkers about topics such as quantum entanglement or anaerobic organisms, don't waste your time on me.
- No fat chicks. Since I was voted one of the sexiest people on the web according to a site populated by people needing validation, I feel that I should remain with the beautiful people. 92% of Americans recognize my superior looks, so it's best I stay with my 8%.

If you don't live up to my standards, I fell that I should point out those who would be perfect for your position:

- The Unskilled. Just because someone didn't finish high school, that doesn't mean your position is above them. Who knows if a drop-out can do brain surgery until he gives is a go.
- The Deceased. Honestly, who cares if the greater at Wal-Mart can speak, respond to questions of has a pulse. Just put on some make-up and sunglasses to complete the look
- The Third World. Sure, the above article implies that those in developing countries are less than we are. Just like midgets, they're not quite human. But I'll be damned if I don't give 'em a gold star for trying like hell.

I hope this goes as well as your search for a date, because I've got my eye on a new house on Ocean Dr. in Newport, RI and a shiny new Rolls. Since I think I deserve it, then goddamn it, I deserve it!

[Johnson Rice]

Personally, I find Jaqueline's arrogance and list of requirements to be sexy as shit... It seems to match *MY LIST* (Which doesn't often happen, since the very statistics above start to show just how few people fall into those categories... especially when you add Libertarian and Athiest into the mix...)

Unfortunately I'm fat and poor, and part of a radio show that will not allow me to travel around the world much. Perhaps look me up in 5-6 years if you have not found someone who fits your list... Hopefully by then I will have filled in the gaps where I do not precisely match your list. For the liberty minded, you should consider all consider the Free State Project as well... There should eventually be loads of like minded folks up there. (Oh, and listen to Free Talk Live)

By the way... she's definitely right... It's much easier to find guys who meet her list of requirements than women. Finding Smart Athiest Libertarian Women who like Sci Fi, Gambling, who also do not want children, are actually physically attractive, as well as having their shit together and aren't losers... Holy crap... It's nigh unto impossible to find that. Definitely a statistical improbability.

[julian]

Sartre was wrong: Hell is Jacqueline Passey

[Phil Welch]

That's not fair, Colin. What would be fair is if you got a job like that, worked for a year, decided that it sucked due to reasons not on your list, and quit, only to demand another job with the same requirements.

Relationships are a lot like jobs. There's an initial application and interview process, usually a probationary period right after hiring. Soon after, your benefits kick in and as long as you put time and effort into it, you keep getting benefits. The only difference is that in a relationship, pay is negative if you're male, and zero if you're female, as long as it's traditional. Otherwise pay is negative for both parties.

Women are also like jobs in that you have to try out a lot of them when you're young until you find out what's right, and that the best ones require you to be college educated. Women are also like jobs in that even total losers have them most of the time, but I do only rarely.

Also, jobs and women share a similarly low me-rejecting-them-vs-them-rejecting-me ratio, although the acceptance/rejection ratio is actually higher for jobs. This is because jobs are more rational than women, and care less about physical appearance.

Let's face it: my standards are more impossible than Jacqui's, and my standards are that she has to actually like me. For things to work out in the long run, she has to continue to like me.

Ah well.

[Phil Welch]

Torgo!? Is that you!?

[Wayne VanWeerthuizen]

The previous photos on this site simply do not do Jacqueline enough justice. She really is beautiful.

Check this out.

[Phil Welch]

Sorry about my depressive comment. I'm not dissatisfied with my love life, it's just that the whole "I am better than you will ever deserve" thing hits a bit close to home. I never had a thing for Jacqueline, but what she says is true in a very general sense, and every woman knows it. Even worse, my redeeming characteristics as a human being rarely attract women, and those that do attract women are insufficient.

[Colin]

Phil & Johnson,

You're only not worthy if you believe it. As much as I was lampooning Jacqueline for her list above, those who shoot for the stars and put a good effort into it get there.

Prime example, I was trapped in a relationship with someone for years because I believed that I couldn't do any better. On the surface, she had everything I wanted, a curvy bi-sexual Latina. She might sound great, but she had the personality of a door knob. Allow me to explain how this turned out mathematically. If we took the number of jokes I told around her, made an average for the day, it becomes clear what the outcome was:

(x) 24
------ = n
y

x = Number of inane jokes/hour (generally a small number around her)
y = number of jokes she didn’t get offended by (which by my last count is 0)
n = number of hours spent in my own bed every night

After we broke things off, I took a look at myself and tried to see where I wanted to be, relationship wise. I made progress to polish my social skills and learned a lot of what I want based on who I am. I then went into every situation with a woman convinced that she wanted to give me her number or go home with me. Sure, it might not have been true, but just believing it made the woman I was talking to more convince.

Now I find myself more than one option on Saturday night. I’m no Casanova or Tucker Max, but I get my share. I bet you could do the same yourself, just believe that you can.

Enough Oprah-esque, empowering shit for now, I have some writing to do.

[Billy Beck]

"No matter how much a woman ever loved a man, it would always give her a glow to see him commit suicide for her."

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from all the rest."

(H.L. Mencken)

[hrtshpdbox]

Your "qualities" would be so much more attractive if you weren't quite so cognizant of them. I'm guessing that you're humorless, hyper-critical and extremely high-maintenance - and probably incapable of holding up your end of a long-term relationship.

[ray]

240
A woman with a big ego says things immodestly. You can definitely argue whether or not she actually has all the qualities, but you can't outright say she doesn't have them. And so what's the headline?

We all know leagues exist and she's trying to define where she stands, get over it. All the critics sound insecure as if you were personally slighted by the post - it is hard to see what else could be your motivation on a post that really isn't profound, why 240 posts!

case and point from the post just above
"Your "qualities" would be so much more attractive if you weren't quite so cognizant of them."
This is POV but true for most men and for me, but where does the rest of the trash talk come from? No really where? What have you got to prove? If I were a psychologist I might say you were indirectly insulting the girl who shot you down in highschool. As I'm not, I really can't fathom why you would say anything more than the first line other than to say you're a bit of a dickhead.

[scottp]

Wayne, she looks about average to me. Not great, but certainly not ugly.

[Ermintrude]

Has no-one yet mentioned the stomach-turning advice that 'low-quality' men from the USA should look to the developing (= poor) world for sex?

A) Men low enough to do this don't need advice, they've got whole industries helping them out and

B) This is why Americans abroad pretend to be Canadian.

[Simon Hawk]

I don't know why you think you're so HOT? Based on your picture I'd rather butt-fuck a rabid porcupine than put up with your attitude. I feel sorry for the man who gets meat-hooked by you.

[Cohort Mandibles]

Oh my God!!! You are such a narcissistic, conceited, rabid cunt stain! Who in their right mind would ever want to put up with your never waning bullshit?? Even if I had the most severe case of Alzheimers I would never be able to forget the wave after wave of vainglorious bullshit you spew from that behemoth mouth of yours. You'd make a great balloon ride because you're swelling with so much hot air. I'd rather get bukkaked in the eyes by a group of plains Indians than have to put up with that writhing stink pocket you call a mouth. I hope no man sticks his veiny limb near you again.

[DRex]

This is what happens when women attempt to surround themselves with uglier dumber women to boost their self-esteem. They start actually believing that people give a shit what they have to say.

Confucius Say: One million x Zero, still Zero

[lori]

setting back feminism 30 years!!! you "go" girl ('go' being the ironic factor)

p.s. how do love searches go via the blog thing anyways?

[Meredith]

If you spent most of your time hanging out at sci-fi events, you'd think you were the most beautiful woman in the world, too.

[Scootah]

I've said many times before that there are hazards to the west's fixation on weight and the corresponding association that slim = attractive.

This is a prime example of my point. Because you aren't fat, you think you're attractive. And you're wrong.

You're a woman of at best mediocre looks who's allowed the heady combination of blogger-psuedo-fame, and the increased level of opposite gender attraction to mix with that post weight loss head-rush, and you've failed to accurately appriase your own looks, much less your actual self worth as a person.

Fortunately for you, you have the potential to contribute strongly to the internet. As age advances upon you and the few tangental claims to beauty that you can associate with your weight, extensive makeup and clever photography begin to vanish, I expect you'll make for a delightfully entertaining self destruction of denial and hypocrasy.

Unfortunately, I doubt anyone will remember you in 6 months, so it won't really be much of a show.

[Jesse Mcbesse]

But... you're ugly...

[Stephen Nash]

Great post. Even though I don't know you, I salute your clarity - and it is obvious that you have a lot going for you. Interestingly, I'd argue that your chances of actually attracting a good man will become less and less....what happens as we become more and more refined, our options lessen. Also, and don't be insulted by this, but women (and men) who focus on self-development tend to both become unavailable to the right people (as they are too self-focussed) AND/OR their self-obsessed lifestyle is masking some serious issue which prevents a real connection...sort of like a self-help addiction that masks a fear of being really available and vulnerable. Many of my female friends suffer this, as do my male clients. It is a law of nature that we cannot avoid. Aaah but all these assumptions on my part simply based on an internet post! I am sure you will, in October, meet someone worthy of you...

SN.

[Markku]

Hello Jacqueline,

I can see why this post was necessary as an anti-stalker measure.

But in case you really think you're very hot, I'd say based on your picture above that you have the facial looks of an ordinarily pretty college co-ed. I could think of several ways your face could be structurally better. In the on-the-plane photo, however, you look downright homely. It looks as if that were taken before losing a lot of weight.

Your financial responsibility is a plus, though. Most men appreciate a woman who is good with money and is not a spendrift. Your level of intellegence matters, of course, but your IQ is superfluous information. Whether a person who writes a blog is smart or not should be evident. The fact that you mention your IQ is a major negative. In general, mentioning one's IQ is a lose-lose proposition: if you're demonstrably smart, it adds nothing to your image, but if you fail to live up to the expectation of being a smart person, you come out looking very bad. And not all high-IQ people have got themselves an intellectual life, and merely having the potential is a poor substitute.

I wouldn't necessarily prefer a very masculine mind in a woman like you appear to have. Rationality, level-headedness, and emotional stability are desireable but I'd appreciate some femininity as well. You appear to be very well-equipped to calculate what's in your interest and what's not - and ready to act on those decisions. That's pretty much the antithesis of lasting love.

[Poe]

Meh. You're not ugly, but you're a twit and that kind of smothers any chance you had of passing for a mildly more attractive Molly Shannon...but you know, not funny. Don't worry, clearly you're misunderstood because of your freakishly high IQ and uber-rare college edumacation. Besides, what do you care about this backlash? There are plenty of guys in poorer countries who'll give your American ass (slim, fat, delusional or otherwise) the attention it deserves.

[ks2010]

I don't even know where to begin. I could start with the fact that you are not attractive. Hot or not is not a good basis for judgement. Anyone I konw who has been to that site, including myself always ranks the ugly people as hot. It's funnier that way.

Loosen up lady, you're real up tight. And that's why you can't get a date.

[kac90b]

Men tend to be hard-wired to find younger women more attractive than older women -- learn some evolutionary psychology.

You better hope that's not true - you're not going to be under 30 and stupid forever. (Well, maybe stupid).

I'm 47 and seem to have all the quality men I can handle. Some younger, some older. I'd blast you right off the "Hot or Not" chart. Being a "quality" woman (or man, for that matter) is not just surface icing - you're either born with it or you're not. Apparently, you were not.

[ks2010]

Yes, I forgot to add that the combination of your cheap shirt, your tj maxx necklace (must certainly have a hook clasp in the back, no?) and your mousey hair does not help your cause or your claim in being attractive. It also looks like you went really heavy with pressed powder around your chin (your big forehead is much lighter) which makes me think you have acne. And we all know how chin acne comes about... DIRTY.

[Dave]

she hoards nuts in her cheeks.

LOOK AT THEM. TELL ME SHE DOES NOT HAVE CHEEK-POUCHES

[anon]

Congratulations, Jaqueline.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2014648

[anon]

Congratulations, Jaqueline.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2014648

[Chris McCall]

I have heard this same tirade again and again from women sitting at the corner of their favorite bar.

ALONE.

[Danny]

You paint yourself as ideal "quality" dating material, but I believe that it is under the guise of generating ad revenue with your affiliate programs. It's a perfect way to garner lots of attention. It's kind of sad really.

[NIGGER DEATH]

NIGGER + DEATH = LMFAO

[twisket]

Hon, you're ill. You don't realize it, which is common amongst mentally ill people, and also you're a self-righteous bitch, so you won't listen to what I'm saying, let alone accept or consider it.

Your original post could not have more clearly laid out why you would be a horrible mate. I would think you would be embarassed, looking back upon what you just wrote, but now I'm thinking you can't be embarassed, because you're self-obsessed, without shame, and completely deluded.

You couldn't be part of the popular/elite crowd in high school so now you're trying to be, online, on your shitty blog.

Pathetic.

BLOG CLOSED DUE TO AIDS

[spill]

why are your eyes pointing two different ways

[Richard]

YOU SUCK

[Repulsed]

As a fellow female, and one who surpasses you in quality (by your own criteria), I think I should let you know why the men at the very top of your desired-mate heap will never touch you:

Class.

cunt

[confidence=/arrogance]

I'm undecided on whether this is:

1. An attention-mongering troll who posted this to increase ad revenue

2. An attention-mongering troll who likes to see those hit stats spike

3. An attention-mongering troll who has no idea how deluded her self-image is

Time will tell.

With an attitude like that, you will die single and miserable.

Is your blog picture photoshopped because it looks nothing like you in reality. Your gigantic skull looks like it could take a punch from the incredible hulk and it would break his hand.

It seems to me that you hang out with all those nerds because they pine over you and you love the attention.

[Mark]

The picture I didn't recognize, then it hit me. The girl who was soaking off the poker player and learning spanish. Then I remember why I quit reading. I would use the C-word, not the B-word. You must have fallen in some dough...

[Tyreece]

I dunno, I'd hit it like a caveman!

[Thrill Hammer]

What color are the skies in your world?

[BusterBluth]

your forehead is big lol

[Jo]

In the 99.9999th percentile for intelligence, and yet you don't know the singular of "criteria" is "criterion". Fabulous.

[Classy Anon. Woman Who Is Perfectly Happy Not Being Perfect]

So what happens when you hit 30? You can't be in your 20s forever, you know. When you hit your 30s will you automatically lower your standards considering you will be one of the unfortunate less desirable "86%" of women over 30?

Unless you've got a Delorean and a flux capacitor, I think you're stuck. Really, the only feasible solution is for you to save your money in the hopes that one day you can clone a 20-something version of yourself and live vicariously through her over and over again.

[Ken]

"That's not a very good metric. Most people on Hot or Not are teenagers and people insecure about their
appearance."

Wait... if most people on the site are from the most attractive age group, doesn't that make a high rating even more valuable?

"But in case you really think you're very hot, I'd say based on your picture above that you have the facial looks of an ordinarily pretty college co-ed."

Doesn't that in itself make her well above average in hotness? College coeds are hot.

"You appear to be very well-equipped to calculate what's in your interest and what's not - and ready to act on those decisions. That's pretty much the antithesis of lasting love."

What? So lasting love is all about acting against your own best interests? Or perhaps not being able to determine what is in your own best interests?

Being single may have its downsides. But dating or being married to the wrong person is much worse. The sooner you figure out what kind of person you must have in order for a relationship to be better than being single, the better. And being willing to explicitly state it is a whole lot nicer than concealing it from people who must figure out from vague signals whether they have a chance or not... especially when the people in question have below average signal interpreting skills.

[Anon gal]

Class is much like manners or good taste... those who actually have it, don't brag about it.

There's nothing wrong with being confident, but when it turns into an exercise in narcissistic behavior, it crosses the line. Most people start out dating with a huge list of things they want in a potential mate. Most people also realize with time that their list gets shorter and shorter. It's not because they're lowering their expectations, it's because they realize that much of their earlier expectations are shallow and really are worthless in the long run. So, you look relatively good now? Great. In a decade or two, your boobs will begin to migrate south. You'll begin wrinkling. Hormonal changes will cause your skin and hair to change for the worse. You'll likely gain some weight. You can fight all that stuff, but in the end, nature will win out. Do you really want to find a man that values you simply for your appearance (and will likely leave you for better)? Conversely, do you yourself really want to be as shallow as that?

Hon, you really need to re-evaluate what's important to you. You're actively going out and trying to get involved in a series of relationships that will crash and burn, simply because you're looking for the wrong type of man. We as a gender have fought very hard to be judged as something other than a sex object. You're going out of your way to find men who have poor values. Good luck, and good luck finding a good psychologist. You're going to need one.

[Dan]

She's not that good looking.

Download fatjackie.jpeg

[Buck]

Dan,

The vibrator is obscuring much of Jackie's midsection in that picture. Do you have a better one?

Buck

[TheGlimmering]

Couldn't resist responding to this can of worms, especially since I'm merrily off the market with a "quality" partner and I suppose that reflects on my "quality" some as well. It's refreshing to find someone honest enough to admit and analyze that human pairing off is a little more complicated than two folks just taking a liking to one another, there's a whole lot of subconscious calculations and mechinations going on behind the scenes. For the brief period I was available, I never hurt for suitors, leading me to suspect that the single best way to up your mating cache is to adopt a subculture or a hobby that's typically male dominated. (Roleplaying, anime, and horror flicks myself, since long before I was old enough to consider dating.)

Why is it so difficult for people to accept that we know, through study, much of the factors that contribute to a fulfilling, stable relationship? When we know these factors and plan for them, why is that considered calculating? Should we jump into any old relationship as if it didn't have any bearing on our future happiness? I considered myself available at 16 and married at 17, we weathered a few extra storms due to going through all those rites of passage together but out of sync and just plain growing up, nevertheless it's been an ideal marriage. We're expecting our first (and likely only) child in October. Prior to considering myself available, I assessed myself, determined what I wanted in a relationship which was eventual marriage, what I wanted in a partner, and what I needed to do myself to achieve that. On my checklist of necessary partner attributes were lots of qualities such as financially secure, emotionally stable, intelligent, and sensitive, there were also traits such as sharing my values, similar background, and such things that have been proven time and again to lead to a lasting relationship. We're living proof that the conscious approach works wonderfully, and for the record he's not bothered in the least that I took such an "unromantic" approach to things or that I did the pursuing initially.

Friends frequently discuss their relationship or lack of relationship troubles with us in hopes of some sound advice, we frequently dole out the sort that Jacq has posted here. Some of our friends and relatives would be better off seeking a partner overseas, not necessarily because they're "low quality," although a certain relation counts, but usually because they're so shy they need a shift in the balance to get things going. We're always recommending self-improvement, honesty, communication, identifying and pursuing what you want... why is it self-righteous to do so?

[Elmer]

Jacqui,

Either something is wrong with my monitor or your forehead is the size of an aircraft carrier deck! Geez! Possibly in the 99.9th percentile.

Since you are otherwise objective in your analysis I am a bit surprised at your glaring omission of such an obvious flaw in your facial symmetry. It has been scientifically proven that facial symmetry correlates strongly to perceived beauty ("Hot-or-Not" notwithstanding.

Here's a self improvement tip: get the hairline surgically lowered. It will step up your "quality"

cheers,

"The Fudd"

[Bugs Bunny]

Ehhhhhh, what's up, Doc? Elmer, you hit the nail on the forehead with your comments.

[Gwin]

Wow. That's got to be one of the saddest, most self-deluded things I've ever read.

[Judge Smails]

This is a two part question. I'll hang up and listen.

1. Do you eat ass?
2. If so, do you "lick the bowl clean"?

[The guitar player]

Honey, you remind me of this fat chick I knew a long time ago who thought she was all that. She kept on saying "If you got it... FLAUNT IT!"

So I asked her one day why she flaunts it.

I'm asking you the same thing.

[Tre']

As a man with some intelligence(IQ tested as a child @ 140) and as a man who has the ability to take a year off and handle all his bills, if I so chose......I would simply like to say, I found your blog surreal. After reading all you had to say, I found that you negelected Love. Love is a tangible realism. Commonality in a mate aside.....what about love?? Love is the glue that hold a good relationship together...... To conclude..... I would not like to date you simply because you seem to lack love in your heart, for yourself, for a man and for GOD. I do however wish you luck in all your future endeavors......

[hecubus]

this personal ad is not a dump-truck; it's more like a series of tubes.

[grandpa leather egg]

How astonished you must be that being a female on the internet has garnered you an inbox full of fanbois. With lips so thin you shouldn't wear such bright red lipstick dear.

[Gomez]

I love this entry. Fabulous and the absolute truth! And item #3 is dead on.

Self-improvement! I used to be a fat unattractive college dropout who couldn’t get her life together. Now I’m thin, attractive, and successfully self-employed after graduating. You can make yourself over into a higher-quality man capable of winning a higher-quality woman too.

[Tre']

As a man with some intelligence(IQ tested as a child @ 140) and as a man who has the ability to take a year off and handle all his bills, if I so chose......I would simply like to say, I found your blog surreal. After reading all you had to say, I found that you neglected Love. Love is a tangible realism. Commonality in a mate aside.....what about love?? Love is the glue that hold a good relationship together...... To conclude..... I would not like to date you simply because you seem to lack love in your heart, for yourself, for a man and for GOD. I do however wish you luck in all your future endeavors......

[Guy]

I have one criteria you must meet:

I like attractive girls.

You have failed.

[Jack Magnum]

dudes there are other pictures she is kind of fat and not very good looking at all

[Kurt Cobain]

i wouldnt date this bitch!!!!

[hOtTeRtHaNu!]

After seeing fatjackie.jpg I can honestly say that your article is the most self-indulgent piece of shit I've ever read. There's a thin line between brutal honesty and self-delusion, you'd do well to keep that in mind.

[Waterstick]

Men who possess the qualities you seek are laying the lumber to supermodels and snorting cocaine off strippers' asses, not being beaten down by conceited, pasty-faced harpies. Maybe YOU need to lower your standards.

[me]

Your gums are scary, they're all I can see when you smile.

[Dan]

More ugly, with uber nerd Wil Wheaton.

The more you try to make yourself less average and high quality, the uglier you look.

http://fileanchor.com/53461.jpg

[Someone Who Came Through A Link And Will Probably Never Read Here Again]

Thanks everyone for the entertainment.

So many people in denial, but I guess that is easier than trying to improve your lot in life. Jacqueline is correct in her analysis/assessment. The reasons why most relationships fail is because people compromise on what they want thinking that they will get use to/change the other person. I'm willing to bet that Jacqueline compromised on something on her list at the beginning of the last relationship. So to all the people who disagree, in the words of De-Phazz, "You're so special, just like everybody else." (Or would you prefer the Spanky Ham, "You're special because you're you"?

See ya.

p.s. Jacqueline, throw out the cookbooks. 80% of what makes cooking "great" happens in the store.

[Ben Franklin]

You're pretty average looking for someone of such high quality.

[Markku]

"But in case you really think you're very hot, I'd say based on your picture above that you have the facial looks of an ordinarily pretty college co-ed."

Doesn't that in itself make her well above average in hotness? College coeds are hot.

Compared to the entire female population? Of course, it does. However, your average co-ed hotness isn't much to write home about if we're talking about young people.

"You appear to be very well-equipped to calculate what's in your interest and what's not - and ready to act on those decisions. That's pretty much the antithesis of lasting love."

What? So lasting love is all about acting against your own best interests? Or perhaps not being able to determine what is in your own best interests?

Lasting love is about commitment. Commitment does not mean leaving immediatelt when calculations show that the one's partner's market value has gone down. See the comment by the guy who wrote about being dumped by his wife after his business went south and he put on weight. Normal people in happy marriages tend to become attached to their spouses. It's called love. A lack of capacity for that kind of attachment is abnormal.

"Being single may have its downsides. But dating or being married to the wrong person is much worse. The sooner you figure out what kind of person you must have in order for a relationship to be better than being single, the better. And being willing to explicitly state it is a whole lot nicer than concealing it from people who must figure out from vague signals whether they have a chance or not... especially when the people in question have below average signal interpreting skills."

I'm not criticising anybody for having standards and articulating them per se.

[Markku]

"But in case you really think you're very hot, I'd say based on your picture above that you have the facial looks of an ordinarily pretty college co-ed."

Doesn't that in itself make her well above average in hotness? College coeds are hot.

Compared to the entire female population? Of course, it does. However, your average co-ed hotness isn't much to write home about if we're talking about young people.

"You appear to be very well-equipped to calculate what's in your interest and what's not - and ready to act on those decisions. That's pretty much the antithesis of lasting love."

What? So lasting love is all about acting against your own best interests? Or perhaps not being able to determine what is in your own best interests?

Lasting love is about commitment. Commitment does not mean leaving immediatelt when calculations show that the one's partner's market value has gone down. See the comment by the guy who wrote about being dumped by his wife after his business went south and he put on weight. Normal people in happy marriages tend to become attached to their spouses. It's called love. A lack of capacity for that kind of attachment is abnormal.

"Being single may have its downsides. But dating or being married to the wrong person is much worse. The sooner you figure out what kind of person you must have in order for a relationship to be better than being single, the better. And being willing to explicitly state it is a whole lot nicer than concealing it from people who must figure out from vague signals whether they have a chance or not... especially when the people in question have below average signal interpreting skills."

I'm not criticising anybody for having standards and articulating them per se.

[ocat]

Don't take it personally, sweetheart, 98.323342% of these people are just jealous of those of us in the upper 99.9878872th percentile! You will find a perfect man, I am 86.22332% sure of that!

[Markku]

"But in case you really think you're very hot, I'd say based on your picture above that you have the facial looks of an ordinarily pretty college co-ed."

Doesn't that in itself make her well above average in hotness? College coeds are hot.

Compared to the entire female population? Of course, it does. However, your average co-ed hotness isn't much to write home about if we're talking about young people.

"You appear to be very well-equipped to calculate what's in your interest and what's not - and ready to act on those decisions. That's pretty much the antithesis of lasting love."

What? So lasting love is all about acting against your own best interests? Or perhaps not being able to determine what is in your own best interests?

Lasting love is about commitment. Commitment does not mean leaving immediatelt when calculations show that the one's partner's market value has gone down. See the comment by the guy who wrote about being dumped by his wife after his business went south and he put on weight. Normal people in happy marriages tend to become attached to their spouses. It's called love. A lack of capacity for that kind of attachment is abnormal.

"Being single may have its downsides. But dating or being married to the wrong person is much worse. The sooner you figure out what kind of person you must have in order for a relationship to be better than being single, the better. And being willing to explicitly state it is a whole lot nicer than concealing it from people who must figure out from vague signals whether they have a chance or not... especially when the people in question have below average signal interpreting skills."

I'm not criticising anybody for having standards and articulating them per se.

[Dan]

To the tune of Iron Man by Black Sabbath:

"Iron Dome"

[voice over]I...AM...IRON...DOME!

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

Has she lost her mind?
Can she see or is she blind?
Her forehead's a giant block
Like some fucked up igneous rock

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

She fell in love with Ayn Rand
And she made her husband take a gay stand
Now she composes her blogs
While her ex chases after man-logs

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

Her ego turned to steel
In the net geek Hot-or-Not field
With her Val Kilmer-like jawline
For the hotness in her mind

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

[big al]

here's a 250 comment thread calling you conceited

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2014838&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

[big al]

you are conceited and 250 agree

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2014838&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

[Roflmonster]

You do realize that 46.53% of the men in your top 99.34253% will read this blog entry and decrease you chances of dating them by 67.231435%.

[Dan]

To the tune of Baby Got Back:

I like big heads, and I cannot lie
You other brothers can't deny
When a girl walks in with a really pointed chin
And a wizard paladin
You get sprung, wanna pull out your dick
'Cause she's a high-quality chick
She's a real Ayn Rand objectivist
And you don't have to be a detective, it's
Clear! From her blog so fine
She's mobbed like Frankenstein.

[Misanthropology]

Dear Jacqueline Mackie Paisley Passey,

I know you compulsively search for your name on Google, so there's no doubt in my mind you'll see this. I know, and you know, that despite your narcissistic, incredibly undeserved self-praise, deep down you hate yourself. I don't blame you for that; if I were you, I'd hate myself too. Let's get one thing straight, sister: you're a nerd. A hopelessly inept, socially retarded, D&D-loving nerd. There is no way you could compete with even an average-looking girl in a crowded bar. Since you can't even get neckbeard ass at an anime convention, it might be time to rethink your appearance. (I won't even start on your personality, as it's probably a lost cause.) Please:

* Tweeze those grotesque caterpillars you call eyebrows.
* Get some glasses that aren't circa 1989.
* The hair--chop it, condition it, color it, style it, I don't care. Just realize that right now you look like a trucker.
* The clothes--burn that hideous brown dress you seem to love so much, ditch the trashy leather jacket, quit buying your shoes at Target, and realize that a.) sparkly logo shirts make you look pathetic and skanky and b.) Russian hats with earflaps are not cute, not even ironically. It's called fashion--look into it.
* Get some sun on your pasty white nerdskin--it's what Ayn would want you to do.

Fuck you very much,

Misanthropology

[Observer]

Sounds like a classic case of this to me: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30564

[Massive Forehead]

I'd just like to say that you do infact have a massive forehead and that you make a better looking man than I do. That is all.

[secret asian man]

It's amazing how much materialism and status-seeking can be put into one little blog post.

[Frog 1.0]

Hey, im average looking, not that rich and not that bright and even me wouldnt care for a girl like you. You are average looking at best but your arrogance is what make you ugly.

It's sad that at your age, you still havent figured that one out.

[mailman]

Man, you've got a big fuckin head!

Also, you need tits

[sean10mm]

To the tune of Iron Man by Black Sabbath:

"Iron Dome"

[voice over]I...AM...IRON...DOME!

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

Has she lost her mind?
Can she see or is she blind?
Her forehead's a giant block
Like some fucked up igneous rock

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

She fell in love with Ayn Rand
And she made her husband take a gay stand
Now she composes her blogs
While her ex chases after man-logs

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

Her ego turned to steel
In the net geek Hot-or-Not field
With her Val Kilmer-like jawline
For the hotness in her mind

DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME
DOME, DOME, DOME DOME DOME, DOMEYDOMEYDOMEY DOME DOME DOME

[Aspasia]

Just shows how great qualities on paper are irrelevant with a cunt's personality. Invest that six-months-of-living-expenses in a halfway decent pair of tits, and maybe you'll hold down a man.

[HurfBurf]

You're a dumb cunt and I'm going to bust a nut on a printed photo of you.

[Chris Buckey]

You are a moderately attractive individual who completely spoils her chances with ridiculous egotism and grossly-inflated self-worth until you are less attractive than the bottomfeeding neckbearded idiots that inhabit the Blogosphere™ and form your fanbase.

Try visiting reality sometime, sweetums, it's a wonderful tonic for delusions of grandeur.

[TrayDay]

Wayne, you must be joking with the link you added a few comments up to an even worse photo than the one so cruelly displyed at the top of the page.

Jacq, you need to go ahead and name Wayne VanFuckinWeirdo as the whole reason you opted to post this nonsense.

And I SOOO am not trying to hate, but you ARE NOT CUTE. I know you believe otherwise and that's cool. But sweetbabyjesus, when reality hits, you are going to devastated.

[John]

It seems hard to believe that anyone wouldn't be intimidated, although I would probably date you in a misogynistic attempt to fuck you in the ass.

I suspect you are of the same mindset.

[fatuglyman]

I am a fat old ugly man who makes no money at all and is really stupid. I am a low quality man. Uh oh spaghetti-ohz.

[bloop]

Whoo -- narcissistic AND tedious!

[sean10mm]

Side note, I apologize for the appearance of the duplicate song, but somebody plagarized me, and I guess I missed its earlier appearance in the avalanche of adoration flooding this blog. People using my love song without permission are not cool at all. Come on, guys, give a hoot and attribute!

[Fatuglyman]

I am a fat ugly man who is old and has no education. I am poor and fat. I am a low quality man. Uh ohs spaghetti-ohz.

ahahahahahaha

[Alfred P. Pseudonym]

So I was looking at your hobbies and interests and you are an atheist Jewish Costa Rican? How does that work?

[yo]

30 Hellens agree! You're a bitch!

[Fenius T. Bugglesborne]

Would you wear a leash if I made you? Because it'd be fun to break that ego of yours in the sack ;-*

[--]

Show us your tits, Assey-Facey-Panhead-Pasty.

[Atlas Sucked]

Your marginal product of ugly is off the charts unless compared to the size of your forehead.

[mailman]

here they are

. .

lol

[Phil Welch]

Also, how many men out there are looking for a woman who is fat, ugly, old, dumb, uneducated, in a financial mess, or who doesn't like sex?

Some of us like softer cuddling partners, partners we can intellectually dominate, partners who will be more dependent upon us, etc. It's also interesting how you implicitly define "ugly" as "not looking like Jacqueline".

And some men don't really like sex either.

[--]

"She's" A MAN, Baby!!

[lol]

You realize that statistically speaking, 82% of the adult American population over 30 equates to an average of 16.4% per 10 year age bracket (30-40, 40-50, etc). That means that you're actually in an age bracket that EXCEEDS the average. Congratulations Jacqueline, you're in an above average adult American agre bracket, you're so f-ing cool.

By the way, guess what: over 82% of adult American women are under 30 and over 40! Do you feel special yet?

[Rex Thundercut]

You sound more "high maintenance" than "high quality." It'd hardly be worth it to pursue someone with so many glaring character flaws...unless the man in question was equally insecure.

[big stud]

DATING PROTIP: WHAT YOU SAY CUNT?

[--]

Just a SMALL selection from the NINTH page of comments about this blog, at the Something Awful Forums:

She dresses like Gilmore Girls reject. Looks like one too.

Instead of looking for husbands, this chick would be better off getting a cat or two. or five.

It sounds like she put alot of work into becoming more attractive, and now expects ten medals and a weightlifting champion/MENSA member as a reward.

So she's an atheist, Jewish, Costa Rican, hyperactive pot smoker? (With relentlessly middlebrow reading tastes.) Not to mention nudist amatuer-social-working traveling abortion-rights survivalist.

When did Rudolph Giuliani get a sex change?

She's 28, and looking for husband #3.

Her marriage was like Thunderdome in reverse - One man enters, two men leave...

She looks so... manly.

Macaulay Culkin in drag.

How the hell nobody ever cock-slapped this Paisley bitch into reality in her life? Mathematically, she must've met some men, right?

What a pretentiously cunty fatuitous termagant. I bet her pussy smells like an old library book, a childrens book from 1974 which hasn't been taken out in over 7 years.

[hay]

what

[low Quality judge]

Do not fool yourself, you are indeed quite ugly. In fact one of the ugliests persons I've ever seen in a photo, even for internet standards.

[donkey]

Whenever someone says that they are attractive, you can just see the ugly tumor of conceit sprout up in their face.

[Steve]

I found your twin http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30564

[BigFace McGee]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Someone put a dick in this girl's ass STAT. That way, you might dislodge the stick.

[A poem]

I like big heads, and I cannot lie
You other brothers can't deny
When a girl walks in with a really pointed chin
And a wizard paladin
You get sprung, wanna pull out your dick
'Cause she's a high-quality chick
She's a real Ayn Rand objectivist
And you don't have to be a detective, it's
Clear! From her blog so fine
She's mobbed like Frankenstein.

[f]

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2014648&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

[YOU SLUT]

YOURE AN UGLY FUKCIN G SLUT ID RATHER DIE THAN FUCK YOU

[El Mariachi]

I've met a few women in my day who have given the online personals a chance. Some were hot, some were not. Even the less desirable women got pelted with a lot of e-mails soon after signing up. Your experiences aren't rare, or any indication of your attractiveness. It's pretty typical for a woman on the internet regardless of what she looks like. You're entering into an area where ratios of men to women are 5 to 1, of course you're going to get hammered by overweight loser guys. You're not alone. The genuinely attractive women will get 50-100 messages A DAY.

Who says these men even want to date you? Many of the men who click on certain women do so because they think they'll be an easier lay. Who says they'll even like you after they meet you? Just because you piqued someone's interest in an online profile doesn't mean they're positively smitten with you and willing to court you to marraige.

Regardless of what you tell us in reference to 'not trying' to find someone, it's pretty obvious that by putting up a personal ad you're genuinely trying to. It may not require a huge amount of effort for you to do so, but you still are taking the time out to list exactly what you think you want in a man. However, beyond that, the fact that you posted a personal ad on your blog speaks volumes of how desperate you are to find someone. If you were actually as nonchalant as you pretend to be, you wouldn't even waste your time with something such as this.

For you to think that many people who read this would find this depressing is quite humorous. Maybe you're referring to your normal readership. If so, perhaps you should take a look at what kind of man your writing style/personality attracts. In my experiences, I've found that crazies attract crazies. People who have it all together attract each other as well: because they can just *tell* that the other person has a zest for life. What I'm saying is that your disappointment in the men/stalkers you seem to attract is probably more a reflection on you and your personality than anything else.

After all of this, you still have it all wrong. You haven't experienced enough of relationships to know how they work. What I've learned is that attraction isn't a choice. You don't CHOOSE who you're attracted to. Of course we're all looking for specifics in a person, but when it comes right down to it- that person doesn't always *DO IT* for us. That's probably the case with the last boring guy you dated. You're being choosy because you think you should be, not because you genuinely are.

It gets better because, of all things, you use hotornot.com to justify your self-image. Honey, middle-schoolers with low self esteem do the same thing. What does that say about you?

It isn't that I think you shouldn't date. I think you need to date A LOT. You think you have an idea, but you really have no clue what you want and/or need in a man. I think you lock yourself up in this world called the blogosphere and have a stilted image of what you can provide for a man. You need to get into the real dating pool. I'm positive you have no idea what other women can give men that you cannot or will not provide. I'm positive that outside the internet, the dating pool shrinks exponentially.

[The internet]

Blogs are stupid. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. No one gives two shits about your opinion on anything. You look like Rudolph Guliani had a bad sex change. Your forehead is the size of a fucking house. I hope you die alone surrounded by cats you stupid cunt.

[Mayor Wilkins]

Hey, I know you thought you were being all cute and clever by writing all of those things which made you look like an absolutely crazy cunt festival. You were wrong, though. You weren\\\'t being cute and clever, you were being a pseudointellectual attention whore of epic proportions.

So congratulations! You got the traffic that you so greatly desired. You got the attention that you so eagerly craved. But in the process, you got a lot of seriously negative attention, too, attention which seems to be spreading all over the Internet like wildfire. Oops!

Hey, if you\\\'re lucky people will just forget about it in a few days and you\\\'ll walk away with a handful of new readers and all the hits that your nerdy little heart desires. If you\\\'re not lucky, though, people will remember. Google will remember. Anyone who searches for your name will see what an unflinching, condescending attention whore you are. They will forever remember you as \\\"that crazy cunt festival.\\\"

Based on what I\\\'ve seen in the past, my money\\\'s on the second one.

Good luck!

[zeldaah]

Jackie, I deeply pity you. That blog posting was so profoundly uncool, so ludicrously and pointlessly self-aggrandizing. It makes my soul ache. Ow, my soul! It's such a train wreck, that even if I thought it were a joke, my soul would still have its panties in a bunch. Ow, ow, ow...

[Om Bernstein]

You belong to Key Largo, you know, the one in San José

[Mike]

If you're serious about this - not just trolling for attention or some stupid thing - then I hope you make some real friends very soon. This is some of the saddest stuff I've ever read, tantamount to declaring yourself Superior To Society! People who start thinking like that end up very, very lonely, and they almost invariably blame everyone but themselves.

[Mike]

If you're serious about this - not just trolling for attention or some stupid thing - then I hope you make some real friends very soon. This is some of the saddest stuff I've ever read, tantamount to declaring yourself Superior To Society! People who start thinking like that end up very, very lonely, and they almost invariably blame everyone but themselves.

[C2C - 2.0]

“Vanity keeps persons in favor with themselves who are out of favor with all others”

[Mike]

If you're serious about this - not just trolling for attention or some stupid thing - then I hope you make some real friends very soon. This is some of the saddest stuff I've ever read, tantamount to declaring yourself Superior To Society! People who start thinking like that end up very, very lonely, and they almost invariably blame everyone but themselves.

[Mike]

If you're serious about this - not just trolling for attention or some stupid thing - then I hope you make some real friends very soon. This is some of the saddest stuff I've ever read, tantamount to declaring yourself Superior To Society! People who start thinking like that end up very, very lonely, and they almost invariably blame everyone but themselves.

[Joe B. Hotness]

I just got the internet can someone show me where to get version 2

[Kelly]

You should have stuck with Terrance - he could have used your forehead for a poker table. You'd have made a great team.

[Peter Paul Luke St. John]

Salutations Jackqui, i read over your dating quality piece and I believe that I am of the quaity that a high quality woman such as yourself desires. This is indicated by the fact that;

Being 25 years old, I am younger than 100% of people in the 26-35 age bracket. This makes me an enticing ctach for a woman who is clearly desiring a relationship based upon transactions of intercourse and conversation with peoples under the age of 30.

My dating market value has risen exponentially in the past three weeks as my love stock price has risen to 125 pence per share, thus making me statistically a better ctach than 127% of other males within your ideal dating criterion.

If you would like to hook up with me then send me a reply, I really think we were made for each other my soon to be partner in sexual transactions. Here is my picture!

P.S. Can I have your ex's number so I can contact him when you inevitably turn me into a homosexual too.

[Peter Paul Luke st. John]

http://www.zenbutoh.com/charactergallery/images/Conehead.jpg

Sorry I forgot to include my picture, hopefully this hasn't caused a decline in my dating market value!

[Jonathan L. White]

bitch niggas DON'T GIVE A FUCK

[MisterChina]

Just printed out your bitching and took a shit on it.

Much love!!!

Toodles!

[Rich]

Jacqueline Passey + 25 years = Maureen Dowd

Best of luck kiddo.

[spirit of truth]

BITCH IS UGLY

[wintermute]

^^^ Give the girl(?) a break! No ammount of self-aggrandizing will ever shrink her fucking forehead!

[Every woman in America]

What a pathetic waste of flesh you are, my dear. Your IQ may be as high as your heels (or so you claim), but you still have an ugly attitude problem. You apparently think you're a gift to the world, but sister, you ain't shit. Your eyes don't match and you smile like you've just devoured a zebra. It'll be a fine day indeed when you get handed your first prescription for Valtrex. If you're lucky, you'll only get it "down there."

Since you like percentages, 98% of the women in America are not as big of a vapid cunt as you.

[Timothy]

I am deeply impressed by the sheer dedication of the trolls.

Did somebody bring a big ol' bucket of acid or a few thousand gallons of jetfuel? Those things have regeneration, you know. Fucking regenerating troll bastards.

[iodine]

ahahaha you have a blog and you hype yourself on the internet.

that's rich.

You're not very attractive for someone who claims to be of such high quality.

[iodine]

ahahaha you have a blog and you hype yourself on the internet.

that's rich.

You're not very attractive for someone who claims to be of such high quality.

[Captain Frank]

Attractive? Pah. I could walk into any club and about 95% of girls there would be hotter than you. And I could probably snag them, because they aren't stuck up, demeaning cunts like you. Burn, bitch. Burn.

[fdsgdfgfd]

bahahadhahahahahahahahahaha

You're goat-ass ugly, bitch.

[Captain Frank]

Attractive? Pah. I could walk into any club and about 95% of girls there would be hotter than you. And I could probably snag them, because they aren't stuck up, demeaning cunts like you. Burn, bitch. Burn.

[wishiwasagoon]

This is a joke, right? Seriously, somebody as fugly as you can't really believe that stuff you wrote.

When you turn your head to the side it looks like the crescent moon.

Not trying to be mean or anything. But damn you may be good from afar, but far from good.

[fhhfg]

I like big heads, and I cannot lie
You other brothers can't deny
When a girl walks in with a really pointed chin
And a wizard paladin
You get sprung, wanna pull out your dick
'Cause she's a high-quality chick
She's a real Ayn Rand objectivist
And you don't have to be a detective, it's
Clear! From her blog so fine
She's mobbed like Frankenstein.

[mee]

Can I pee in your butt?

[dsgss]

I like big heads, and I cannot lie
You other brothers can't deny
When a girl walks in with a really pointed chin
And a wizard paladin
You get sprung, wanna pull out your dick
'Cause she's a high-quality chick
She's a real Ayn Rand objectivist
And you don't have to be a detective, it's
Clear! From her blog so fine
She's mobbed like Frankenstein.

[mee]

Can I pee in your butt?

[fdhfgf]

Can *I* pee in your butt?

[Arafat Kazi]

HAHAHA aren't you Faggeth's sister? Weren't you trying to do politics or something?

[JACKIE THE CUNT]

Jackie, you're a waste of life. You're using up the world's oxygen supply with those ugly gaping nostrils of yours. People must tremble when they walk in front of you in fear of being sucked into those bottomless voids.

Also, my IQ is 158, bitch. Currently. Oh, WOW! That's BETTER than you, isn't it? Do you ride the short bus?

I can also read the future. I see you rotting in a nursing home, alone, unloved, and in a puddle of your own liquified shit and piss. Jackie-doll, NO ONE LIKES YOU. You have hundreds of people here testifying about how horrible you sound and look.

Were I you, I'd put a bag over my head and take a picture, then replace the current one of my horrid mish-mash of a face with it. Or at least smear shit on my face so I could look a shade more attractive.

<3

[wishiwasagoon]

Yeah blah blah blah we get it. You are into sci-fi and you are a GIRL! Big fucking deal. I love science fiction and fantasy and the internets too. I am also a girl.

I am also way hotter than you.

The only difference is that I don't feel the need to be an attention whore like you do.

[I hate you]

It's funny you take the time to delete the comments you do not like. Or you apparently run them through a generator so they come out sounding the way you'd like them to sound. It's also interesting you've made your background the color of puked up enchiladas which is also the same color as your skin tone.
Mazeltov!

[goon]

Nono, let *me* pee in your butt.

[lol]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

[Smarter Than You]

"I'm sorry if I've offended you, but I'm also really sick of getting e-mailed several times a week by delusionally hopeful men who read my blog and think because I am *their* dream girl that I'll therefore want them too."

So you're intelligent?
1) Never end a sentence with a preposition.
2) Never misspell said preposition.

[Hugh G. Rection]

If your IQ is so high then why do you have so many run-on sentences? I have quite a few guy friends...and I've found that arogence isn't a quality that is highly saught after. You better hurry up and obtain another quality so you can redeem yourself.

[qwerty]

Jacqueline;

You sound like a massive bitch, which goes pretty nicely with being a pedantic pseudo-intellectual. There is really nothing unique or interesting about you. You are pretty typical of most self-important bloggers.

I pretty much guarantee you the only possibility you have of a long term relationship is with a man that has no spine at all.

And this is the first time I have ever heard of you; you are pretty much unknown outside of your neck bearded circle of sycophants. Good luck with your e-fame

oh and you are not attractive. You look pretty average (probably on the ugly side) and not in a way that I could ever find anything endearing in.

[I want an SA account]

Dude, you're totally a fag!

[I want and SA account]

Oh, it's a chick...

[Ihateyou]

Your interests include blogging and guns?
Put those together baby. In the opposite order. To your head.

[Brian A]

Hey, forum goons, why the hate? She seems like a nice girl overall. I think there's perhaps a little pent up anger at Something Awful, and we need to go back to doing what we do best, namely, venting our spleen at much more deserving targets, like furries and Juggalos.

[What The Fuck]

http://imagesocket.com/view/HOTTb1a.JPG

Lols. Ugly as shit

[Furrie Juggalo]

Leave us alone.

[Furrie Juggalo]

Leave us alone.

[Furrie Juggalo]

Leave us alone.

[Paul]

Please drop the Libertarian label, it's embarassing.

I'm glad you feel special that so many people want you desperately, sounds like you need that.

[Casual Observer]

Hmmm...I think if you would just accent the bony plates in that big fat forehead of yours a bit more you'd make one helluva fabulous looking Klingon bitch. You've already got Lt. Warf's bone structure going for you and I can faintly detect a favorable facial hair growth.

I think it's your niche!

Chorus:

Jackie gots da Klingon goin' on, goin' on...
Jackie gots da Klingon goin' on, goin' on...

Dat crustacion she's bitch, she ain't no ho! Ain't no ho!
Cuz Jackie gots da Klingon goin' on, goin' on!

Lis'sen dat bitch gurgle: "Ghar'l El Bah'esh, Ghar'l El Bah'esh!"
Cuz Jackie gots da Klingon goin' on, goin' on!

Fool don' be steppin' up, Wrath of Khan! Wrath of Khan!
Fool don' be steppin' up, Wrath of Khan! Wrath of Khan!

Cuz Jackie gots da Klingon goin' on, goin on!

YEEEEAAAAH BO-EY!!

[Rach]

All of that stuff seems pretty shallow though. What about YOU? Who are you? What do you long for? That's the kind of stuff I would want to know if I were looking to date someone.

[Rach]

All of that stuff seems pretty shallow though. What about YOU? Who are you? What do you long for? That's the kind of stuff I would want to know if I were looking to date someone.

[Rach]

All of that stuff seems pretty shallow though. What about YOU? Who are you? What do you long for? That's the kind of stuff I would want to know if I were looking to date someone.

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[Gnome]

Synopsis:

I'm not interested in a relationship right now. I'm too good for you. Here's why: I'm a skinny and attractive girl, probably because I used to be fat and it bothered me so I developed bulemia, I'm young and smarter than you (here, let me grab some percentages from the internet real quick... and I have a BS degree that I obtained while failing at snagging the engineering geek of my dreams), I have enough money, I'm a whore, and I'm more masculine than you! (Hey, wait a minute...) Not only that, but I evolve faster than the rest of mankind, so I'll widen the gap even farther. You losers won't stand a chance after I hop on that treadmill while watching the spanish channel so I can go to guatemala and expand my drug-trading business amidst a front of cooking guacamole-filled tortilla-burgers.

So basically my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. And there's even more to me than the milkshake, but men are too blind to notice my finer qualities.

I can date whoever I want. Too bad I don't want to date many of you losers. Because you believe in God and don't agree with me. I don't want to have to whip you. I want you to already be whipped. Here... practice.

I pick when and who I date, and I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified applicants. I haven't learned the value of compromise. Why should I? I deserve the world handed to me on a silver platter just because I've slimmed down a few pounds since I was a little on the heavy side in college. It's not like I'm whoring for attention either... shoot... is this online?

Here, let me guess why you're mad at me. You're mad because you're not cool enough to be in my club. Maybe you should lower your standards and date fat women or order a bride from Russia. Or you could just work a little harder and be more like me, since I'm all that. Until you change, you're just not good enough for me. That makes me SOOOO much unlike other women.

Thanks for applying to be my boyfriend, but you're not good enough. Hop on the treadmill, make more money, work on losing your faith in God, read Ayn Rand, and then please resubmit your application.

Update:

Oops, that came across as too strong. How about this: if you're stalking me for anything other than friendship, I'm not interested. Even though I have a lot of time on my hands since breaking up with my boyfriend because he went all in on the wrong hand. Just because I'm single doesn't mean I'm desperate. I didn't mean to make it sound like I'm any better than you even though I told you that your only real chances were with fat single women or mail order brides from Russia. And arrogance? I don't see where you get that at all!

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[Greg]

Jacqueline I have knews for you...

you are not attractive. You should be the one lowering your standards. Sorry.

Haha just kidding, I'm not sorry.

[whoreoclock]

ur a stupid bitch lol

[jar]

dude you need a therapist not a man!!!! you are clearly the product of someone who has extremely low self esteem and a very good plastic surgeon. You are clearly not happy and no man no matter how good he sems on paper or what his "quality" is will make you happy until you are truely happy with yourself!

[jar]

dude you need a therapist not a man!!!! you are clearly the product of someone who has extremely low self esteem and a very good plastic surgeon. You are clearly not happy and no man no matter how good he sems on paper or what his "quality" is will make you happy until you are truely happy with yourself!

[A bitch]

Most hated woman in blogland rocks.

[ill]

You're honestly not very attractive.

Plus, you come off as a complete bitch, and that doesn't attract "high quality men."

Sucks to be you. :|

[rotacks]

Jacqueline Mackie Paisley Passey
The only thing flatted than her tits is her assey
an arrogant high-quality woman on the internet she did post
The Internet then proceded to roast
Slut! Whore! Bitch! They cried
I'd put it up her ass while she would be hog tied
"I can't take this anymore!" she pled
"I would just be better off dead"!
And the Internet through the night danced and sang
In the doorway her body did hang.

[Rocco]

HAY GUYZ BUKKAKE PARTY IN 1, 2, 3!

[tum-tum]

you're ugly, no offense

lol good luck trying to find a good looking date you whore

[an attractive, successful, intelligent man with 6+ weeks of vacation time]

i'm with the 'you're really not very attractive' camp.

an average, plain white girl if you ask me- i wouldn't give you a second glance on the street.

good luck.

[the attractive, successful, intelligent man with 6+ weeks of vacation]

and btw, if you want to stop getting asked out by creepy trolls then DON'T PUT YOUR FUCKING PICTURE ON YOUR BLOG.

You're clearly begging for attention (by having a blog in the first place...) then pretending you don't want it.

Lame.

[Mad William Flint]

Not one word about laughter or humor. You poor poor girl.

I hope you get the help you need. I really do. Otherwise you're going to make your self-righteous way to 85 and be single still because nobody was good enough.

If I believed in god I'd pray for you.

But I don't, so I'm just gonna wish you well and hope you figure it out.

Do yourself a favor: Delete this blog post and all the associated comments. You'll be glad you did.

[diptutod]

Holy shit are you ever obsessed with attracting others and being in a relationship! Do you do anything at all for your own personal fulfillment, or is it all just some sick game to appeal to men (in your opinion) as much as you can?

For what it's worth, you also sound incredibly boring. Like fast food, you might appeal to a great many people, but in your endless quest to please the majority, you lack qualities distinct, compelling, or truly your own. What a sad life, but I suppose if you like equally bland men you'll be inundated with them.

[completely obvious]

Nice photoshop job on the cleavage, by the way. The shading you added makes it look like your left tit lives under your armpit.

[Jared]

Hey Jaqueline, I'm a high-quality guy and I avoid women like you.

[Angstronaut]

.....YOU ARE NOT SHITASHI!!!

[Ordinary Guy]

And so the womens movement take a dozen giant steps backwards.

[Charley]

people are talking about you...

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=8197.0

[Charley]

people are talking about you...

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=8197.0

[Tom]

I just jacked to your pic. I'll bet your panties smell fantastic.

[Crimson Captain]

Ravenous sex drive, eh? Would you wear a leash or at least leather?

[Christine]

Jesus, I love goons. Jacqueline- You come off as a self centered bitch. Instead of going through a holier than thou rant, why not just say "No thanks, I'm not interested," instead of "Huurrr I'm better than you are." With a post like that, I'm not sure if any guy would want to date you, other than to get you into bed and post a blog about it on the internet about your crotch rot. Do yourself a favor next time and just keep everything to youself you dumb cunt.

[asystole]

OMG GOON RUSH!!!!

[Gary Niger]

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[John]

Christine, I can't tell you how GRATEFUL I am for your post. It's exactly what I needed to read this afternoon. I haven't stopped laughing since I read it 30 minutes ago.
I especially liked the bit where someone said, "Since you like percentages, 98% of the women in America are not as big of a vapid cunt as you".
OK, so it's a little hurtful, I suppose, calling you a vapid cunt, and I shouldn't laugh. But it seems quite accurate, and anyway, after years of disappointment you must have developed a quite thick skin by now.

[Thank God I'm Not Jackie Mackie Paisley Passey]

So, how much Photoshopping did you have to do on that Glamour Shot up there? 'Cause judging by your other pics, you're rather on the fugly side, even for a sci-fi nerdgirl. Not to mention insufferably egotistical. Good luck finding anyone of "quality" to put up with your horsey-lookin' high-maintenance ass, honey.

P.S. And I thought MY forehead was big.

[Freddy McHuggle Pants Jr.]

I'd really like to fuck you. With a loaded shotgun. Up the ass.

[What]

I need to update my internet help please

[john]

Sorry, Jacqueline, I was laughing so hard I called you Christine by mistake. Maybe I mistook your messiah complex for your name. My apologies.

[john]

Sorry, Jacqueline, I was laughing so hard I called you Christine by mistake. I don't know where I got Christine from. Maybe I mistook your messiah complex for your name. My apologies.

[ARF ARF]

YOU ARE UGLY, SHUT UP. How can someone write so many fucking words about themself? Get a fucking life.

[PJR]

Worst. shit. ever. The only thing worse than you is your legion of trolls that no doubt believe the crap you write. OOOh look at me, my ex was a professional poker player, and I put up an incredibly flattering picture of myself and some people found me not as ugly as the other insecure people that submit their pictures to sites like those. I bet I would shoot myself if I were forced to be in a room with you and listen to you speak for more than a minute or two.

[PJR]

Worst. shit. ever. The only thing worse than you is your legion of trolls that no doubt believe the crap you write. OOOh look at me, my ex was a professional poker player, and I put up an incredibly flattering picture of myself and some people found me not as ugly as the other insecure people that submit their pictures to sites like those. I bet I would shoot myself if I were forced to be in a room with you and listen to you speak for more than a minute or two.

[SAGE]

Because you are so hot I am going to bust a nut to that huge chin you have. Jesus christ its bigger than any chin in china. If you were born over 100 years ago people would be screaming witch and burning you on a post.

[SAGE]

Also you look like someone injected jelly into those huge cheeks you have protruding out of that ugly face of yours. HEY GUYS IM 18 AND 2% of the population is 18 too LOL IM A RARE COMMODITY. You are the biggest piece of shit that came out of the wrong hole.

[Lex]

This is the funniest thing I've read in years. Thanks, Jaqueline, for restoring my faith in satire.

[Mishmash]

How up yourself are YOU sweetheart!!??!!! i'd say 11 out of 10. You're not looking for a partner, yet you post every last intimate detail of your life on here for the world to see??? hhmm. Such modesty!!

P.S. Usually if something is of quality, it's not something that has to pointed out, you can just tell.

P.P.S Women who think they're hot shit, such as yourself don't usually appeal to a self-respecting males.

[Lab_Frog]

Hmmm. Some of these negative comments are so lame as to warrant a suspicion as to if they were made by friends of Jacqueline. Either the negative types are so lame as to be worthy of only suicide or Jackie’s supporters are engaging in pathetic marketing.

On another note, everyone should own this book:
The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from the Living Dead by Max Brooks (son of Mel Brooks).
which is not related to Lab_Frog, but which is cool.

[Mishmash]

How far up your arse is your head actually lodged? And are the doctors doing anythying about it?
You're not looking for a partner, yet you post every last intimate detail of your life on here for the world to see. So Modest!!!

P.S. Usually if something is of quality it's not something that has to pointed out, you can just tell.

P.P.S. Women who think they're hot shit, such as yourself don't usually appeal to self respecting males.

[Gomez]

Have the 440 people who have trolled this entry ever seen craigslist personals before? You'll find dozens of truly demanding women posting there, far worse than this entry, which was honestly nothing more than a personal blog post. And those women, most of whom have far, far less to offer, are actually SEEKING guys; the OP actually states that she's not looking.

[solution: LASERS]

I don't think 15 shots of the highest quality tequila would make me want to hit on this dog.

[Lab_Frog]

Jacqueline’s marketing points in order of importance to the typical geeky but successful male:
7,8,4,2,3,1,5,6.
Getting a better and shorter name would help also.

[Ted]

I'm a very high quality man and I think you're poor quality.

[Admin]

Seeing as how I am only in the top 30-35% of the population, would you accept 3 men in the top third. After all 3 x 33 = 99%. I think. I'm not too good at math.

[Dr. Dre]

Well at least you didn't portray yourself as a successful web designer!!!

[Mike]

If your going to be this stupid and vain, you should probably work on getting hotter.

Cunt.

[Rinda]

I'm a high quality woman. I'm faithful, I'm patient, and I forgive people for not being perfect. You're a different religion than me? As long as you act decent about it, it doesn't matter. You've gained a few pounds around your middle? Well, then, you'll be even more fun to hug. Your idea of quality, though, is the kind that never forgives. For a man to win your approval- and I say approval, not love, for you do not offer that- he would have to always be walking on eggshells, because you cannot accept flaws. Good luck finding a good man, but if neither of you can ever relax around each other, it's all doomed.

[big forehead]

Um, if you're going to announce to the world how 'high quality' you are, then perhaps wearing a low cut shirt showing off how droopy your boobs isn't the best idea.

But i'd rather that photo, then any of the others ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Poolshark Larry]

hello, your face doesn't fit your head

[Poolshark Larry]

Also why wont you return my calls you fucking tramp bitch

[egerfdg]

quote:

"hello, your face doesn't fit your head"

ahahahahahaha.... that made me laugh too much.

It is funny because it is true.

God you're ugly.

[Jatck]

HAY GUYS PLZ BE NICE OK?

Really though. Is this a joke? I mean, we've all seen the other photos (you know, the non-glamour shot ones that you don't post on the front page of the masturbation you like to call your blog) and you're.. not very pretty. I know that society places far too much emphasis on looks, but for someone who claims to be quite an attractive person? You're really not :( I don't understand where your inflated sense of self esteem came from? I mean, your first husband would rather have sex with dudes, in the butt, than have sex with you. All the neckbeards who frequent the many sites your pretentious wankfest of a blog has featured on have expressed nothing more than overwhelming distaste at your attitude, appearance, and general cuntishness.

Doesn't that make you feel really super dooper? Special on the inside? Just because you go to geek conventions where everyone wants to touch the real live girl doesn't mean you're special. There's much cuter real live girls than you :)

And you have a giant forehead.

[recipetroll]

Ugly recipe

Ingredients
Scale ingredients to servings

2 oz tomato juice
6 oz beer

Fill beer glass 3/4 full of beer, slowly pour tomato juice down the side so it settles on the bottom. Shake salt in the palm of your hand. Throw salt into the glass and wait until the top foams up. Chug the drink and then scream "UGLY"!

[Poolshark Bob]

Just to reiterate, you have a fucking huge forehead.

[HYOOGE FOR-RID]

Separated at birth?!?

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j291/AdamskaZ/killitnow.jpg

[Fuckthelibertarians]

The forehead... I can't stop staring. It's hypnotic, like a fucked up overopinionated lava lamp after a shitload of botox shots.

[Alex T]

What a desperate need for validation you seem to have; you are very much removed from the real world.

You are also deluded - you are really average looking and have an abnormally large forehead.

:)

[fuckthelibertarians]

You know what would fix you right up? A cock in the arse.

[S.A. Hicks]

Are you for real? I mean, seriously, read what you wrote.
Do you even begin to realize how arrogant, pretentious, self-serving, and narcissistic that nonsense is?
Do you understand that you can't find a "quality guy" because you can't stop tripping over your over-inflated ego? Guys like smart girls. They don't like girls who think God himself shot his wad into their mother, thus making them some kind of Holy Uber-offspring.
Are you really that pathetic and insecure that you can't just be yourself? We laugh at you.
Just remember: you write and constantly update a "blog". If that doesn't speak volumes about what a vapid and self-absorbed bitch you are, I don't know what does.
P.S. I really enjoyed having you as mayor of NYC and I hope you run for President. Nice head, dick.

[Lev]

As far as I'm concerned, I prefer a silent vice to ostentatious virtue.

People who know that they are attractive/professional/intresting rarely need to state that openly in a conversation, it just shows.

Sounds like you are doing all that self-improovement just to fulfill some misconcieved abstract goal that you se for yourself.

In the end it isnt even worth a damn.

You sound extremely boring.

If you want to find/be in a good relationship, you have to be spontaneous,passionate and amusing (among other things) - qualities you try so hard to but fail to display.

Also for someone with a high IQ you really need to learn basic english grammar.

[Lev]

As far as I'm concerned, I prefer a silent vice to ostentatious virtue.

People who know that they are attractive/professional/intresting rarely need to state that openly in a conversation, it just shows.

Sounds like you are doing all that self-improovement just to fulfill some misconcieved abstract goal that you se for yourself.

In the end it isnt even worth a damn.

You sound extremely boring.

If you want to find/be in a good relationship, you have to be spontaneous,passionate and amusing (among other things) - qualities you try so hard to but fail to display.

Also for someone with a high IQ you really need to learn basic english grammar.

[Lev]

Whoops, double post.

[anon]

I'm a regular reader of your blog and do enjoy the diverse stuff you cover, etc.

I can kind of understand where you're coming from, with your analytical approach towards things. However, I have to agree with what a lot of people are saying, you seem to lack basic warmth... and your analytical self is off-putting, and it looks like if you were to get together with someone, and that personal got some terrible illness, you'd jump boat and call it being "rational"... etc... and all of this just doesn't make you seem to be a very desirable person...

One other thing, which I'm surprised nobody has taken you up on yet. Your last boyfriend was East Asian. The guy with the no. 2 rank the last time you asked for a boyfriend on your blog, I think he was a much older Kiwi.

You are right that Western men get more play when they go to poorer places, such as East Asia.

Similarly, East Asian men get almost no play in the West... especially from white women.

Some would argue that you had to lower your standards because you had to settle for an East Asian.

Also, your no. 2 choice was a much older Kiwi. Again, I see major compromise happening for you.

I wonder why.

[Poolshark Larry]

Holy fuck that forehead is huge.

[Matthew Jones]

Hmm, you might be an ideal mate for the masses if not for two factors. The first of which is athiests are the least trusted minority in the nation, so if people can't trust you, why would they want to date you? The second factor is you're ugly as hell and you'll never be able to suck in that gut forever.

[Karl Marx]

A crass woman with a false-consciousness of the bourgeoisie. Objectivist, materialist bitch with neckbeards and fat Linux users for friends.

Yours,
Karl

[J. Philip]

Good luck, you'll need it.

[kac90b]

As they say, pretty is as pretty does.

[fuckthelibertarians]

Holy fuck I bet you could crash that forehead into the WTC and survive.

[JackHighwall]

LOL.
No bad comments here. I think you are hilarious. I thought I would share with you my list of my requirements. If you feel you measure up, maybe we can buy six pack of Bartles and James and make love under the moonlight.
Peace,
Jack

No Tattoos
No Excessive Peircings
Not Divorced, Separated, Open Marriage
No Kids
No Drug use
No Smoking
No High Count of Sexual Partners (Hard to tell)
No Low Education
No Job
No Sorority
No Athiest
No Overweight
No Divorced Parents, or single parent home (except for widow/widower)
No bodyhair or mustashe
No Feminist
No former jobs as Hooters, Victoria's Secret, Bar, Strip Club, or any place that would cater to male attention
No Social Workers, or any job related to bettering the welfare of the oppressed or less fortunate
No Religious missionaries, or members or cult, or ultra conservative group

[JackHighwall]

LOL.
No bad comments here. I think you are hilarious. I thought I would share with you my list of my requirements. If you feel you measure up, maybe we can buy six pack of Bartles and James and make love under the moonlight.
Peace,
Jack

No Tattoos
No Excessive Peircings
Not Divorced, Separated, Open Marriage
No Kids
No Drug use
No Smoking
No High Count of Sexual Partners (Hard to tell)
No Low Education
No Job
No Sorority
No Athiest
No Overweight
No Divorced Parents, or single parent home (except for widow/widower)
No bodyhair or mustashe
No Feminist
No former jobs as Hooters, Victoria's Secret, Bar, Strip Club, or any place that would cater to male attention
No Social Workers, or any job related to bettering the welfare of the oppressed or less fortunate
No Religious missionaries, or members or cult, or ultra conservative group

[JackHighwall]

LOL.
No bad comments here. I think you are hilarious. I thought I would share with you my list of my requirements. If you feel you measure up, maybe we can buy six pack of Bartles and James and make love under the moonlight.
Peace,
Jack

No Tattoos
No Excessive Peircings
Not Divorced, Separated, Open Marriage
No Kids
No Drug use
No Smoking
No High Count of Sexual Partners (Hard to tell)
No Low Education
No Job
No Sorority
No Athiest
No Overweight
No Divorced Parents, or single parent home (except for widow/widower)
No bodyhair or mustashe
No Feminist
No former jobs as Hooters, Victoria's Secret, Bar, Strip Club, or any place that would cater to male attention
No Social Workers, or any job related to bettering the welfare of the oppressed or less fortunate
No Religious missionaries, or members or cult, or ultra conservative group

[JackHighwall]

LOL.
No bad comments here. I think you are hilarious. I thought I would share with you my list of my requirements. If you feel you measure up, maybe we can buy six pack of Bartles and James and make love under the moonlight.
Peace,
Jack

No Tattoos
No Excessive Peircings
Not Divorced, Separated, Open Marriage
No Kids
No Drug use
No Smoking
No High Count of Sexual Partners (Hard to tell)
No Low Education
No Job
No Sorority
No Athiest
No Overweight
No Divorced Parents, or single parent home (except for widow/widower)
No bodyhair or mustashe
No Feminist
No former jobs as Hooters, Victoria's Secret, Bar, Strip Club, or any place that would cater to male attention
No Social Workers, or any job related to bettering the welfare of the oppressed or less fortunate
No Religious missionaries, or members or cult, or ultra conservative group

[myspace.com/aquavita]

wow this is getting pretty popular

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=11190842&blogID=156537159&MyToken=0f13d54a-3d34-4370-83da-bb6b323d54d6

[Renee]

Honey, what you fail to realize is that you seem to have conveniently forgotten your status as a divorcee under the age of 30.

Some would classify that as old fashioned white trash.

[Ray]

Jacqueline,

Why do you put up with all of these assholes?

[TrystWithDeath]

Evolutionary psychology eh? Since being straight and finding a mate for reproduction isn't high on evolution's list lately... what makes you think that men wanting only younger women is still the norm? Oh right, statistics.

I just don't understand what world you live in. Personal experience... I'm 28 and married... and fat with 4 babies. And yet, I still get offers from men of all ages. Especially the younger ones. Wow. Am I an anomoly in this "factual" world of evolutionary psychology?

I pity you... the view you have on life. Not because of your arrogance that these other people mock. It's your view that the older you get, the more qualities you require in order to attract a mate. What a sterile, cold outlook on life.

Now, the funny thing is, you can have your arrogance all you want and I hope it gets you somewhere. As for me, I appreciate being a married, *uneducated,* fat woman with 4 children... because I'm Puerto Rican. And damn, do the offers come rolling in when I go out. So make sure that you add that into your calculations. The pastier you are, the more makeup you need to wear... the more qualifications you better add onto that list of yours. Egads!

A side note: I truly agree with the "Jackie niche" theory. But I say, "To hell with it! Let her have her niche!" We don't have to be a part of it. Thank God. Oops, I mean, thank the Big Bang that somehow made something from nothing (please tell me that if a singularity cannot be explained, then how can scientists explain it)... even though the "something from nothing" story has already being copyrighted by Moses. Ok, that was anecdotal. Don't start a religious debate, anyone.

Another side note: Objectively speaking, I do find your writing very dry and drab. The only thing that made this site interesting was not your sparkling personality, nor your humor (because uh, I didn't see any), nor was it your post here. I have to give the monkeys that raided your blog a ^5 for some of the most entertaining pieces I've ever seen in a blog thus far. Ok, I'm not a great expert on blog humor because I don't read blogs... and if truth be told, the only reason I even SAW this blog was BECAUSE a friend of mine linked it to me... but yeah, it was only funny because of the trolls. You should thank them. Fervently.

[Paul Krugman]

Hey Jackie.

Some members of the twoplustwo forum are talking about you and Terrance.

Check it out here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6955332&an=0&page=0#Post6955332

[Paul Krugman]

Hey Jackie.

Some members of the twoplustwo forum are talking about you and Terrance.

Check it out here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6955332&an=0&page=0#Post6955332

[jae]

At first I thought this post was arrogant and made an incredibly poor impression. While I still disagree with some of the underlying assumptions that are inherent in a few of the items, I have to give props where they're due.

At least you have standards. Many people may believe they're overinflated, demeaning, or insulting. However, as someone who has watched a close friend accomplish many similar feats (weight loss, college degree, etc.), she has developed no standards whatsoever. I can't believe there is anything wrong with wanting more for yourself.

As a woman with degrees in behavioral science and specialization in statistics, I do think your statistical attributions are too reductionist to be entirely accurate. There's too much involved in the bigger picture.

Good luck with the hunt, though.

[RFJason]

I think Jacq's statistics and underlying assumptions are perfectly valid, and in fact may be more sophisticated than most people are willing to admit.

While I can appreciate a heavy education in behavioral science and statistics, I think it tends to do a disservice when analyzing someone who so thoroughly breaks the mold, like Jacq.

For example, behavioral science is very much locked into the average human equation. It bases its principles and framework for measurement on that equation. It accounts for the current standards of empathy and humility when attempting to ascertain things like maturity.

However, behavioral science has difficulty dealing with human equations that are based on entirely different value systems. When it attempts to do, behavioral science incorrectly judges the epistemology of that new equation because it focuses its rules around only one standardized value system: the value system of the average human being.

I think we can all agree that Jacq is not the average human being. In order to understand her position, and her desires, and to judge them, you must throw away what you think you know and learn her value system. Then, and only then, can you make an informed judgment of her statements and beliefs.

Here's a hint: the value system of the average human being is broken. It is a system based on self destruction and the glorification of the mediocre. It is that value system that causes the average human being (read: the vast majority of replies on this post) to react negatively. They have encountered a value system that values the highest ideal of man and his rational faculties. It is a value that they have grown to believe is bad. So they bash it.

But, when it's all said and done, it is the higher value system of Jacq, and people like her, that commands the greatest rewards and fulfillment possible to a human being. It is a more evolved sensibility. And, like any evolution in human thought, it is almost universally rejected by the mainstream. But, like Galileo and Einstein, the value system of the ideal human being will one day be realized, proved, and adopted for all people to share.

[DanSkizzle]

You're definitely "anal sex on the first date" class pretty. That means you're only suitable to be a cumdumpster for better people who are slumming it. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more insightful posts!

[Chiane]

Am I the only one here that doesn't think she is very good looking? She gets hit on because she has boobs. Mystery of the universe just revealed. Does she know how much 'actual' pretty girls get hit on? If so, she wouldn't think she's all that. It's fine to come across as if the whole world wants you if you don't own a mirror, but come on. She has a face for text only blogs. Most guys with her criteria can do better

[Michael Pullmann]

You will die alone.

[smish]

She reminds me of the SNL character that always sticks her hands under her arm pits and then smells them. It should be suspected that she has chosen her very best photo (which is, by the way, very Glamour Shots), which also means that the photo here is as good as she can get, which isn't that hot even on what appears to be her best day.

What her photo and information says to me:

1. Her parents obviously thought she was the world. I suspect there is a dominant male figure she still squeals "daddy!" when speaking to him, despite that she's obviously an older adult.

2. "Daddy!" was a white collar professional - maybe a doctor - but still very blue collar mentality - hence the gleaming pride over "debt free", "perfect credit" and "six months of savings". She's made Daddy proud!

*note obvious lack of experience with opposite sex - trust me babe, no man truly cares about this - spending problem, yes. "perfect credit!" no.

3. She grew up in the middle America, but is a "city girl!" now! though it's obvious that there isn't a sexy shoe in this woman's closet. her idea of "sexy" is her sensible nine west because after all, she thinks that's what men find hot.

she also has that tree-lined streets, corn fed "I was head cheerleader" look about her.

4. Probably an only child, but if other sibs, she was the family "star" - perfect grades, always on time, involved. Achievement was important to at least one parent - she performs for the reward, not because she's talented or driven. She wants to be loved.

5. She's the kind of anal, rigid friend you can't hang around too long.

6. She went to college, but she was at best only slightly above average. Good grades, maybe a nice GPA. But by no means blowing anybody's mind, solving any world problem. Again, she performs for the reward.

7. She's insecure. Somewhere, she didn't get the right kind of attention/affection - she seems to have an odd obsession with achievement, improvement, her metrics, and performance. This tells me our little goddess doesn't really like herself - not deep down. But let her master a task (Daddy!) and she will feel important.

8. She's very childish. Sheltered, a little foolish. I get a sense she's trying to be a "big girl!" but she's really just a kid in mommy's heels.

9. She's boring. She's the kind of woman that is going to boss you around without the merit of being anybody's boss, be irritated easily and cry to mommy/daddy when upset.

10. She thinks men hitting on her means she has something special. Sweetie, they hit on everybody. Trust me. Even the ugly girls.

I'm entertained, but my prediction is she will:

1. not achieve much. she thinks she's doing "oh so big things!" right now but she's small minded. There's a bigger world around her but she only sees to the highest level of her world, oblivious that she's small.

2. She'll marry, and he'll be a decent guy, but i don't think there will be love. she's too anal, and too self-centered.

3. She'll be a nightmare mother. The same performance standards she was raised with will be projected on her children, especially her girls. They'll never be good enough.

Kind of like our girl :)

[smish]

Let me add that anybody who, first, pays attention to a Website like "Hot or Not" and then actually monitors her photo's performance is just a little bit weird.

But, I did say she was childish....

[smish]

And, I was right - just read her bio. Ohio!!!!

[Answeris42]

You are nothing more than a self-serving narcissistic girl. And for future reference, there aren’t that many libertarian men since there are not that many libertarians. You are not a show stopping beauty, you are not ugly by any means, but you are far from being anything but ordinarily beautiful. And since you are waiting until October to ‘find’ the ‘ideal’ man after you ‘figure out’ where you want to live, I can only take that as to imply that you still live with mommy and daddy or in some rank apartment (its easy to be out of debt and have six months worth of savings when you have nothing). I bet during intercourse you tell the man when to ejaculate.

And as for the blog being a bit too harsh, it’s the internet , in reality no one cares. You are nothing more than a tiny piece of sand on the beach of life, trying hard to be something else, something you will never be. Because even with your 140 IQ, your meager savings account and your grandiose self conception, you are still a piece of sand.

And I have an MBA, make damn good money, own two houses, am far beyond having six months worth of savings stocked up, am over thirty and overweight, have two kids, own two cars, and just yesterday I had lunch with three mayors, four senators, and a host of multi-millionaires. My IQ is still 147.

And I wouldn’t bed any of the men you are looking at because darlin’ they are not real men. See it takes a REAL woman to know what they are, not some blogging want to be girl, who thinks her feces is precious. Oh and one more thing, I don’t blog my life or my lives wants, I have class.

Have a great day, and please go ahead and twist this response around to fit into your tiny world of self-serving delusional blogs . I know you can do it.

I came here because my friends and I needed a Friday afternoon laugh.

[Answeris42]

This is just too funny, it's like a B-movie, must keep reading, can't turn away, it's so bad yet we can't stop reading and laughing.

Thanks for the laugh.

Please keep this up even after you get all grown up.

[Answeris42]

Wait you live in Costa Rica and have six months worth of savings...what's that in American colones?

So its a rank apartment in Costa Rica.

And Spanish is you're other language?

h00t.

[chrissi79]

You are seriously delusional!! I am a 27 year old female, so I guess I'm not part of the 82% of American adult women that are over the age of 30 years and neither are any of my friends, and judging by your self-righteous blog here, I'm guessing you don't have many of them, since most women can not stand people like you.
I am more educated than you are, having a dual bachelors degree and a masters in Accounting, which means I probably also make more money than you do.
I am 5'7", 140lbs, very attractive (more than you, thats for sure)with blonde hair and blue eyes and other assets that I don't need to advertise here, which is proven by the fact that I am not "selling" myself or my "so-called qualities" as you call it, on some website.
Why don't you try getting off your high horse before someone knocks you off it and get a life and a clue...most guys aren't interested in half the baloney that you listed here...which is why I am happily married and you are not.
Good Luck in your search..you are DEFINITELY going to need it.

[MaddenDude]

Ok ok enough with the jokes. I have a serious question....Why is your forehead so big? You look like Peyton Manning: http://www.depauw.edu/pa/news/images/peyton-manning.jpg
I know thats an insult to Manning, but I dont mean any disrespect to him, he's the best QB in the NFL.

[DamnSkank]

Damn that foreheard is massive. Does anything orbit it yet?

SLAY THE BEAST!

Dumb cunt.

[CarWraft]

Hi there. I'm an 18 year old male living in Southern Louisiana. I own my own business, make between a 110-150k salary depending on business, drive a 2005 Infinity G35 2-door which I bought in cash, have given over $50,000 to charity so far in my short life, and own 3 lots and 2 homes for rent. I'm not out of highschool yet.

I get women like you hitting on me non-stop because you're a self-serving whore without the sense of decency to wonder whether YOU offer ME anything of value. I'm younger than you, have more money than you, apparently have a much greater grasp of reality than you, and I am on par with you in appearance.

You offer me nothing I don't already have, and yet in your blog you act as though I am below you. I make more money taking a crap than you do in a month working out of your run-down apartment. I can bed women with more class than your entire college career. My life is just beginning, while you feel the need to comfort yourself with an age percentage.

You lose, hon.

[Jon De Haai]

What a funny post, and arrogant too although I understand your motives. Hope it did the trick. You make me appreciate the fact that I no longer live in the US, surrounded by women like you.

[darlad]

So, when will you add "woman without a receding hairline" to your list of attributes?

[liluputians]

verything this lady used to demonstrate her worth is transient. Wealth, appearance, financial security are all fleeting, they can dissolve within an instant. This woman cannot find her true worth, which is permanent.

[mangleon]

The unfortunate thing about this Jacqueline Mackie Paisley Passey person (I haven't typed your name out either, you cunt) is that her head is so far up her own undoubtedly disgusting vagina that she'll never understand why she's being made fun of. She'll never seem to get the irony of declaring yourself a superior individual via the internet. It's the equivalent of extolling your sexual prowess through descriptions inserted into your Battlestar Gallactica fan fiction zine.

[LEEROY]

This is retarded.

This is INCREDIBLY retarded.

Not only have you declared yourself a superior speciment on the internet, but you have also confirmed the fact that you are INDEED a self-righteous twit.

The sad thing about this is that you don't realize how desperate and insecure you sound. Using statistics to back up your claims is no way to declare yourself superior. Let's look at the facts here, my dear. I'll bet you that not only can I draw/paint better than you, but I can also play piano better than you. Not only that, but I'm willing to bet my bed looks neater than yours (as opposed to 92% of the female population, which doesn't make her bed in the morning (notice how I pulled that statistic out of my ass?)). Does that not make me high quality as well?

Also, since when does a "high quality" woman use foul language? Isn't a "high quality" woman something of a lady? Ladies don't cuss. Ladies don't brag. Get over yourself, woman.

Your intelligence/attractiveness/physical fitness has nothing to do with "high quality". You CANNOT place a standard on "high quality" with a human being. To do so is ignorant, as trash to you could be high quality to someone else.

Because you posted such a pretentious entry about yourself, you've only lowered the quality of your personality in so many people's eyes. Good job.

[Rheinhammer]

I don't normally leave completely obnoxious commenst such as this but i thought you were particularly deserving,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...... stupid arrogant bitch!!!, I KEEEELL YOU!!!!

[Slim Daddy]

Daaaamn!

Nothin worse then a bitch who thinks more then she is. I seen planks o wood less plain to look at then you. Better damn lookin too...

Yo aint even ho material. Just a damn tease who couldna get laid in a gang-orgy. Go back playin with yo damn action figures because they be the only damn man who is going to put up with a dog like you.

[garrett1234]

I am a high class guy, I'm drinking Santoro Especial Tequila with a lime. the bottle cost me 9.00 dollars at the local convenience store. I live with my parents and I'm 21 years old. I go to a community college and I masturbate every day at least 4 times a day, some times 5... you and I should be high class and ugly together... ha!