Time with Midori.
I raised the bar so far up for myself.
Itís hard for me to settle for what everybody else is getting. (Laughing)
Because I feel like I deserve more.
I take a risk by being in this business, by being a mom, by being a
sister, and being a wife.
Iím representing this industry and your company.
So, you need to treat me [well].
You know what Iím sayiní!
want to thank our Talent Relations Associate Mark David for arranging our
contact with Midori.
is the proprietor of
spoke to Midori on Thursday, August 23, 2001 at 1:30 AM EST.
Thanks for taking time out to talk to us.
Thatís not a problem.
How did you choose your stage name?
My name came from a conversation with director/producer David
Christopher on the set of my first movie, which was Pussyman Auditions
#3. He said I should
choose a name that describes my personality.
And he said, ďsomething like this.Ē
He was drinking a melon liqueur.
The drink was green and in Japanese midori means green.
I found out that the name of the drink is Midori Liqueur.
I adapted it to mean the color of money.
Of course, we didnít know that story.
Yeah, most people think that itís a reference to Midori Sour.
What projects do you have in the works?
I just finished 3 movies: 2
for a company called Wildlife and 1 for VideoTeam.
The VideoTeam feature is with Evan Stone.
He is the male performer and best actor of the year [AVN 2000
awards]. It was cool because
I am the first black woman to win an AVN performance award.
Actually, Jeannie Pepper was inducted into the AVN Hall of Fame.
I am the first black woman to receive that honor. It was the first time a black woman and a white guy were on a
box cover together.
Thank you. Itís kind
of weird Ė even though itís adult entertainment Ė to be breaking
ground like that.
Are you saying that weíre in the year 2001 and itís surprising
that it hadnít been done already?
Exactly. It should be
a very liberal industry. (Pause)
Iím looking at the news and theyíre talking about passing an ordinance
that will make it illegal for a dancer to touch her self.
(We paused to listen to the
bizarre. Youíd think this
is the 1950ís.
(Laughing) Can you
That is absurd.
I was reading this article today.
They had this picture of this female with heavy breast.
You canít see her head. Her
boyfriend was about to face 5 years for taking lewd pictures of her.
She was 17. She was
underage; but, she gave her
permission to do it. What
came out in court was sheís old enough to have sex, but not old enough
to take nude pictures taken. The
people who processed the film turned him in.
I thought it was really odd that she can have sex; but she canít
take nude pictures.
Since the Bush administration took over, weíve noticed an
increase in the pursuit of restrictive policies, particularly regarding
the adult industry.
I know weíre easy targets. People
in the adult industry donít have power in numbers.
Weíve got it in the banks. They
canít refute that.
Thereís an article in the latest issue of AVN magazine about
interracial scenes. It says
producers are shying a way from doing interracial scenes in their
productions since the Bush administration took over.
Have you seen that?
Yeah. The industry is
an easy target. Take
the case of someone like Sean Michaels working with some brand new young
looking straight out of Nebraska white girl. Try that case in this city with a jury that does not like
black people. Say,
ďdo you think this is lewd conduct?Ē
Oh, easy conviction!
Exactly. So, to not
have to deal with that they made a guideline.
Itís OK for a black woman to do interracial scenes.
They play that on cable. When
itís the other way around, thatís still an issue.
Itís sick. What are
they afraid of? Are they
really that insecure? I get
that [kind of treatment] all the time in the dance market.
Itís unbelievable. I
still donít get bookings, no matter how many awards I win.
[Iím told] Iím a black woman and Iím going to attract a black
male street clientele thatís not going to buy drinks at the bar
and thatís going to cause trouble.
So, letís not deal with her and her people at all.
Oh. So, youíre
People are set in their ways.
It does take some market research.
I just had a club owner in Canada contact me to apologize for
misjudging my fan base. He
had booked me and then he had second thoughts.
He thought I didnít have a large fan base.
He did some market research from Windsor to Detroit and he realized
that I have a huge fan base. He
apologized and said he wanted to book me.
That made me feel really good.
Typically when you get into the [adult] industry, you want to get
quality box covers. You want
to get some awards and you want to get some magazine covers.
That brings you more money on the dance circuit.
The dance circuit is really where you make your money.
You get paid to show up. You
can sell your merchandise. You
are presented as a star because of all the things youíve done.
You make more money that way, if your smart and you have some type
We have seen your work and we think youíre beautiful.
Now thatís what Iím talking about.
I donít think itís calculated.
I just think itís stupidity.
This is my motto. Iím not white and Iím not black enough. At the conventions, the guys Ė who come up to me and
know all the stuff that Iíve done Ė are middle aged white guys.
I guess theyíve just got a lot of free time on their hands.
Are you updating your web page now?
Yeah. My husband has
taken over loading the graphics. Iím
making a bunch of changes on my video page.
Iím adding box covers and stuff.
Are you training him?
I taught myself actually.
talked about web page publishing. We
return to the interview when we are discussing feature dancing.)
When you try to deal with this situation, you become embittered.
Iíve been asked: ďWhy
do you have a chip on your shoulder?Ē
I donít have a chip on my shoulder!
It isnít fair. ďWhy
are you whining?Ē Iím not
You want what is your due.
Yeah. I have been in
many situations where I could have pissed people off.
If I feel that something isnít fair or right, then
that [speaking up] is my job.
Since you are well established in the industry, you can voice an
opinion about a situation that a lot of ladies are experiencing.
Right. I wanted to try
something like the Dennyís lawsuit and Jeannie Pepper said that she
would help me. This is
serious money that weíre talking about.
Weíre only going out to 30% to 40% of the clubs in the United
States. I mean, Dťjŗ vu,
Sreaming Rhino, and some of the other chain clubs have probably only hired
Heather Hunter Ė if theyíve hired a black dancer.
Do you believe these clubs are open to a class action lawsuit?
If the right lawyer would take it seriously, he could treat it like
a case of racism. He could
take the adult part out of it and he would have a strong case.
The gray area would be they have black house dancers.
But a house dancer is not a feature dancer.
Theyíre making tips. But
Iím talking about being PAID! Iím
talking about the fees, the marketing, the newspapers, and all of that.
Have you considered creating a black adult entertainers alliance of
I would love to. I have tried to get a couple of panels together.
Sharon Mitchell runs the medical thing out here in LA said that she
would give me the space to hold meetings.
The problem is just getting everyone together.
You have so many girls who are just in it for the moment.
Theyíre just trying to get their check and theyíre not looking
at it in the long run.
Originally, Mr. Marcus raised the issue of finding a good
distributor. Are you
concerned with finding a distributor for your productions?
Iíve taken heed to my sisterís advice to just go independent.
Why mess around with the middlemen?
You have to wait 3 to 6 months and sometimes a year to get your
money back anyway.
So you recommend skipping the distributor and selling directly to
Yeah! Thatís what
the internet is good for. Itís
just like the difference between an independent record deal and a major
record deal. An independent
will lack promotion. For a
female in this business, thatís what we want to see.
We want to see our faces on the covers of the magazines and the
glamour boxes. The bigger
companies are the ones who are putting the money into funding those kinds
of projects. I can happen. Look at Sean Michaels and Jake Steed. Sean has his own distribution.
SMP (Sean Michaels Productions) is his distributor.
It can happen. I have to check myself all the time. When youíre dealing in this situation, these guys have been
around for a long time. They
all play golf together. If
you piss one of them off, you basically piss all of them off.
Weíve heard that before.
Yeah. It can happen.
I know that Jake Steed pissed some people off a couple of years
ago. We (Jake Steed, India, and Mr. Marcus) did an interview with
AVN magazine a coupe of years ago. I
was on the phone because I was in Chicago and I didnít want to miss the
interview. He [Jake] said
that white people should stay away from producing black movies.
A lot of people on both sides were mad at Jake.
Jake was able to work for the bigger companies Ė VCA, Vivid, and
stuff like that Ė earlier on in his career. A
lot of black guys coming into the business donít have that opportunity
Did repercussions come from the interview?
He did change. But people attributed that to him. It didnít spread out to ďall the blacks are trippiní.Ē
What would happen if all the blacks decided to leave the
I have a problem with the whole hip-hop street lingo.
If you put me on the cover, you see itís a black or interracial
movie. You know that by looking at my brown face.
Why do they have to put CHOCALICIOUS or something like that on the
box? Is that what they think
weíre all about?
It almost reminds me of the movie Hollywood
Shuffle. Itís like they
still reflect that stereotypical attitude in the porn industry.
Yep. Some of the guys
donít see the harm in it. They say hip-hop is strong.
They do it in hip-hop. Whatís the big deal? But, Itís perpetuating the stereotype and we Ė on both
sides Ė feed into it. Iíve
done all I can do to show a different side to it.
The guy who runs VideoTeam said he didnít want me to become the Diana Ross of porn.
Why did he say that?
I donít know. I remember that because I wanted to get away from the stuff
[hip-hop stuff]. Heather and
Dominique were the only ones who did the glamour stuff.
Are you referring to the higher budget productions?
Yeah, that kind of stuff with a story line and a leading actress.
I believe some of the ladies went to Europe when they wanted to do
higher quality productions.
Yeah, I was there for 2 months.
Did you make any videos?
Yeah, I did 2 movies there and I recorded a dance CD.
Actually, the adult company funded my movie project.
And I have a video on CD-ROM.
Can you name any of the titles?
Ummm, In Bed with Midori
and Big Sister.
Big Sister is a take-off
of the show Big Brother.
I pretend to be a man for the majority of the movie and at the end
Iím Midori. (Laughs) I donít
do girls and I had a strap-on. I
was doiní this girl from behind. It
was funny and really cute. I
wore a mustache and all.
How was your trip to Europe?
It was a beautiful experience.
I was very sad when I had to come home.
[Here] Iíve had to jump over road blocks and pave my own way.
I didnít have to do that over there.
Itís a totally different way of thinking when it comes to racism. If there is racism over there, I didnít feel it or see it.
I was performing for thousands of people.
They go all out for their erotic festivals.
They rent ice hockey arenas and they do it over the course of a
weekend. It was beautiful.
Some of these people had never seen a black woman before.
I was in Eastern Europe. I went to Poland, Finland, Latvia, and
Had they seen your videos?
Some of my videos were just being released.
They just got the licensing. Out
there, It just became legal to have triple-X movies last year.
Before that, they had to be underground?
Yeah. They were poor
quality and they certainly didnít have any black women in them.
Was the money good while you were out there?
Yeah. I went shopping
Did you take any family with you?
Yeah. My husband went.
He appeared in both movies with me.
I didnít get a chance to take my daughter.
But, I wouldnít have wanted her to go on that particular trip.
I didnít have any free time.
Whatís your husbandís stage name?
His stage name is Silo.
According to Video Team, youíve been in the business since 1996.
What has changed between then and now?
Um, I think the number of producers and the tapes have quadrupled.
Itís making it harder to be competitive.
Anyone can pickup a camera and call themselves a porn producer or
director. And any girl is all
of a sudden a porn star. Itís
taking the stardom out of it. Itís
like having a Nail Shop on every corner, you know.
When I came in [the adult industry], anal was becoming the popular
scene. Now, girls are doing
crazy stuff. These girls are
not getting the box covers and the rates they should be getting for the
things theyíre doing. I was
very lucky. When I came in, I knew Julian St. Jox. He introduced me to Sean Michaels. I did my first convention 3 months later.
I met Nina Hartley. I
met all of the OGís. Sean
Michaels was the one who gave me my rate.
He said: ďIf anyone
tells you otherwise, tell them I paid you that.
If I can pay you that, then they can pay that and more.Ē
Itís weird. I am
always humble. But, I have
established a set of principles for the way a black woman should be
treated. When I first got in,
guys were telling me: ďDonít get your hopes up too high because black girls
donít go too far in this business.Ē
Everything Iíve set out to do, Iíve basically done it.
My next thing is the club circuit.
I was doing the interracial gonzo movies and wanted to get into
features. So, I wrote my own
damn script and casted it. I
talked to Tom Sawyer. He used
to do the Baby Got Back series.
He walked me into VideoTeam. I
laid the script down on Chrisís desk and he was Ė like Ė shocked.
Shortly after that I was signed to a contract that lasted for the
next 3 years.
What was the name of the video?
Show Time with Midori.
I raised the bar so far up for myself.
Itís hard for me to settle for what everybody else is getting. (Laughing) Because I
feel like I deserve more. I
take a risk by being in this business, by being a mom, by being a sister,
and being a wife. Iím
representing this industry and your company.
So, you need to treat me [well].
You know what Iím sayiní!
Are you still under contract?
I quit. I left the
business last year. So, Iím
really selective about the projects I do.
I needed a break. I quit in my 3rd year and I didnít do anything
for about a year. Iíve done
about 8 or 10 [videos] in the last year and a half.
Since I came back in, the morale is down.
The girls are [not excited]. Theyíre
like, Iíll be glad when this shit is over with.
Where do you see this attitude?
I see it in the performance. I
see it in the articles I read. I
see it in the magazines. [In
the past] When a new girl came in and she was hot, you would hear a bout
her. I donít hear about
It looks like an assembly line now.
Yeah. Itís funny all
the black girls are starting to look alike.
All the white girls STILL look alike (Laughs).
Yeah, blonde and big boobs.
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