[Inquiry] Re: De In Esse Predication

Jon Awbrey jawbrey at att.net
Sun Sep 7 06:30:11 CDT 2003


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Gary,

With that last bit (CP 3.442) on the "state of information" (SOI)
in the mix, I guess I can now follow-up without letting any more
categories out of the bag -- there were only three after all --
Peirce's simple faith in the democratic process is conditioned,
simplexly or otherwise, on the evidently inessential contingency
of a "liberally informed electorate" (LIE).

Jon

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> of course, this does not apply to california ...
> 
> jon
> 
> Gary Richmond wrote:
> >
> > Jon,
> >
> > Most interesting interpretation.
> >
> > And so, after your most pleasant post,
> > most pleasant dreams to you too.
> >
> > Yes, I certainly try not to "spoil the surprise."
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Jon Awbrey wrote:
> > >
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> > >
> > > he means that if the name on the ballot were "The Devil",
> > > the people would not thus knowingly elect him.  of course,
> > > putting his real name on the ballot would be the last thing
> > > that the Devil would do.
> > >
> > > but hey, don't read ahead,
> > > it'll spoil the surprise.
> > >
> > > pleasant dreams,
> > >
> > > jon
> > >
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> > >
> > > Gary Richmond wrote:
> > >
> > > > jon,
> > > >
> > > > given that two paragraphs later, Peirce writes:
> > > >
> > > > > if the Devil were elected president of the United States,
> > > > > it would prove highly conducive to the spiritual welfare
> > > > > of the people (because he will not be elected), yet both
> > > > > Professor Schröder and I prefer to build the algebra
> > > > > of relatives upon this conception of the conditional
> > > > > proposition.
> > > >
> > > > and given the bizarre situation that the devil HAS been
> > > > elected President of the United States, what does this
> > > > say about Peirce's or Schroder's logic, especially in
> > > > its esthetical and ethical presuppositions?
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > Jon Awbrey wrote:
> > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > DEIP.  Note 5
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > | Cicero and other ancient writers mention a great dispute between
> > > > > | two logicians, Diodorus and Philo, in regard to the significance
> > > > > | of conditional propositions.  This dispute has continued to our
> > > > > | own day.  The Diodoran view seems to be the one which is natural
> > > > > | to the minds of those, at least, who speak the European languages.
> > > > > | How it may be with other languages has not been reported.  The
> > > > > | difficulty with this view is that nobody seems to have succeeded
> > > > > | in making any clear statement of it that is not open to doubt as
> > > > > | to its justice, and that is not pretty complicated.  The Philonian
> > > > > | view has been preferred by the greatest logicians.  Its advantage
> > > > > | is that it is perfectly intelligible and simple.  Its disadvantage
> > > > > | is that it produces results which seem offensive to common sense.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | C.S. Peirce, 'Collected Papers', CP 3.441,
> > > > > |"The Regenerated Logic", 'Monist', vol. 7,
> > > > > | pp. 19-40, 1896.
> > > > >
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