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Re: UFOs + ECHELON - Ledger

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:59:37 -0300
Fwd Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:35:46 -0400
Subject: Re: UFOs + ECHELON - Ledger

>From: Kyle King <kyleking.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:35:44 -0500
>Subject: Re: UFOs + ECHELON

>>From: Terry W. Colvin <fortean1.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:51:42 -0700
>>Subject: Re: UFOs + ECHELON

>>The comment below is from my retired meteorologist and amateur
>>astronomer friend, Steve. How true is his statement?

>>"The interesting thing is that no amateur astronomer - a
>>person who would be knowledgeable about the sky, has ever
>>photographed or videotaped a classical UFO." --Steve


>I have no basis on which to declare the truth of this
>statement, but I have a note or three to add based on common
>sense alone...

>Astronomers use telescopes. Telescopes are designed to allow
>one to ignore the vast majority of the sky in order to allow
>examination of a very small part. Further, the telescope focuses
>on a point of light far from the viewer, so objects much closer
>which might pass by could be easily missed even when moving
>through the telescopes field of view.

>An alternative view could hold that astronomers are much more
>familiar with what is out there, and have yet to encounter
>something for which they have no ready explanation.

>Finally, I find it difficult to accept any statement which
>proposes that something has never happened. I can imagine an
>astronomer who has no interest in UFOs as an extraterrestrial
>phenomenon might dismiss an anomalous feature out of fear of
>ridicule. The photos and film may very well be in existence, but
>relegated to the proverbial cutting room floor.

>To recount a very well-worn phrase in this forum... absence of
>evidence is not evidence of absence.

I meant to mention earlier that which will come as no surprise
to many in the field of UFO research that Clyde W. Tombough, the
astronomer who discovered Pluto in 1930 after 11 years of poring
through endless photographic plates using the blinking process,
had a UFO sighting on August 20, 1949 which he claims changed
his opinion of the phenomenon in a matter of minutes. He had
three different sightings-without the use of an optical aid- and
claimed the following:

"I have seen three objects in the last seven years which defied
any explanation of known phenomenon, such as Venus, atmospheric
optic,  meteors or planes.I am a professional, highly skilled,
professional astronomer. In addition I have seen three green
fireballs which were unusual in behavior from normal green
fireballs...I think that several reputable scientists are being
unscientific in refusing to entertain the possibility of extra-
terrestrial origin and nature."

He died in the Fall of 1997 and was the only astronomer to have
discovered a planet in the solar system in twentieth century.

Don Ledger

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