From: Joachim Koch <lists.nul> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:49:24 +0200 Fwd Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:05:09 -0400 Subject: Re: UFO Review - Roswell - The End - Koch >From: Mac Tonnies <macbot.nul> >To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates.nul> >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:28:58 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Progeria - Lack Of Navel & Polydactyly Are Linked >Source: Mac Tonnies' Blog >http://posthumanblues.blogspot.com >There's a stubborn myth that no qualified medical doctors >think the 'alien autopsy' is 'real'. >German Professor Claims To Identify Santilli Alien >http://archive.anomalies.net/cni-news/CNI.0034.html >But the U.S. government had recently shown it was no UFO >in 1947, but rather a spy balloon that had crashed. >Therefore skeptics quickly guessed that the film was a >forgery. So their opinion was that the alleged >extraterrestrial was a rubber dummy. However, the truth >is much more macabre. The person lying on the >pathologist's dissection table doctors have now proven to >be a genetically deformed girl. Hello List, There is a story behind the progeria nonsense which you should know. At the time the Santilli scam was issued, the very successful International Roswell Initiative, founded by Hans-Juergen Kyborg, me and Kent Jeffrey (later Kent enigmatically turned around one hundred degrees, maybe by 'external' pressure). As a physician, I looked at that dummy in the film and made up my mind if there might be a chance to find syndromes which might cause a human body to look like the corpse in the film by genetic defects. So I started my search - and was quite successful. I then published my findings in a short 'paper' in the Internet for everyone to read. I have added the text of my findings below. It comprises all the anatomic features which were subject of the discussions at that time in 1995. You may also look here: http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/roswell8.html#IRI My publication was not welcomed by a man named Illobrand von Ludwiger, who ruled like an emperor an invitation-only group of researchers in aerial phenomena in Southern Germany. We have been to indepent according his group rules (everything must have been controlled by him, only he decided what was to be published and where and so on). At that time, we were about to leave that group with its unacceptable standards. So he could not stand the fact that I have issued a scientific examination whitout his blessing and ordered another medical examination by a German physician. So my colleague and dermatologist Thomas Jansen from the Munic University appeared with his progeria-proposal. The physical shape of progeria patients is very different from what was so be seen in the AA-film. And progeria is a very rare disease, only a few patients are described in the literature. The progeria disease appeared on the Ufo stage at that time as the jealous attempt of the leader of the German UFO group 'MUNFON-CES' to have his own medical bulletin. And this was a rather far-fetched one. The impact of the International Roswell Initiave was a good wind behind the late Sen. Steve Schiff who issued the GAO inquiry about Roswell Ufo-related documents. So who of you will get another Senator to come forward with another GAO inquiry to look for documents related to experiments with humans in the New Mexico desert? Who of you will issue another FOIA inquiry to publish documents related to experiments with humans by the American Military and to name the departments, institutes and people involved with? Then we would have a chance more to verify Nick Redfern's findings. I hope to get the book here in Germany. Below you can read my findings from 1995 about the C-Syndrome(which also is a rare disease). Best, Joachim koch ********************************************************** *Announcement* *of the* *International Roswell Initiative* *IRI* Berlin, August 12, 1995 *********************************************************** THE SANTILLI CIRCUS by Joachim Koch 1. Introduction The aim of this article is to provide some medical background to demonstrate that there exists the possibility that an autopsy was not performed on an "alien being" in the film shown by Ray Santilli in London on May 5th. As a general surgeon in Germany, I feel qualified to write about this subject. I practice in a large (700 bed) hospital in Berlin- Spandau,Germany. During the past 18 years I have seen many seriously injured individuals from all sorts of accidents. I have also attended numerous autopsies. Even today, seeing a body dissected is not pleasant for me. Although an autopsy is done in a clinical atmosphere for medical or scientific purposes, it nonetheless affects me deeply. When I leave the autopsy room to return to my normal duties, I take a few moments to forget the dissected corpse, and to remember the human being it once was. If the being shown in the Santilli film was not a dummy --if it was once a living being from Soccoro, Dallas, Cambridge, Berlin, or wherever -- it deserves the respect civilized people pay to all our deceased. If it turns out that the entity in the film really is an alien, then by our greedy plundering of the corpse and showing this publicly, we will have shown how little value we place on life. By our actions, we may have failed the test of becoming equal members of the cosmic community. 2. Some considerations about bodies and autopsies It is important to remember what Glenn Dennis, the mortician at Ballard's, said he was told by the nurse who witnessed the autopsies. According to Dennis, the preliminary autopsy was performed in the Air Force hospital at Roswell, and the bodies seen by the nurse had four fingers, unlike the body in the Santilli film, which had six. If a preliminary autopsy in Roswell had been performed and the final dissection (in the Santilli film) was done in another place, perhaps Fort Worth or Wright Field, then sutures placed during the first autopsy should have been visible during the second autopsy shown in the film, but they were not. Not surprisingly, pathologists stitch up bodies more crudely than do surgeons, yet no one viewing the film reported any sutures, and in fact, the "doctors" in the film are seen making the initial cuts. The body in the film, then, could not have been one of the bodies that the nurse in Roswell saw being autopsied. Most, if not all, who viewed the film were puzzled by the odd outfits of the "doctors." Kent Jeffrey, who was present at the showing, described them in his June MUFON Journal article as "two individuals in white anti- contamination suits, complete with hoods and narrow, rectangular glass faceplates..." What were these suits for? They could not have been for protection from radiation because in a previous film shown by Santilli, "doctors" were seen examining a body without protective suits. Moreover, in the recovery of an alien craft and its crew, testing for radiation would certainly have been one of the first steps, but Jesse Marcel, Sr., has testified that no radiation was detected at the crash site. The suits could not have been for protection from the odor of a decaying body. A suit for that purpose would have required breathing apparatus. Nor could the suits have been protection against unknown bacteria or viruses. In that case again, some sort of breathing apparatus would have been required to guard against airborne organisms. So, it is likely that the strange outfit worn by the doctors had a different purpose -- to conceal their identities. It is hard to understand why the autopsy was not performed under better lighting conditions, why only two "doctors"were in attendance, and why only one camera was operating amateurishly. An autopsy of an alien would have been an extraordinary event. It may have been performed in a large room or auditorium so that many pathologists could have been present. It would have been performed very carefully and methodically, perhaps over several weeks' time. Careful motion picture filming and many slides and/or still photos would have resulted. Conditions would have been ideal to facilitate the best photographic records possible. Nothing done by the film's "doctors" seems to indicate that they were aware of handling something of extraordinary value to mankind. The whole scene looked unpleasant and somehow illegal. 3. Physical Features Only one or two of the attendees of the May 5th showing were medical professionals. Those present did, however, see a few features supposedly common to those of a "real alien,"such as dark almond- shaped eyes, a larger than normal head,a small mouth, a small nose, and smaller than normal ears in an abnormal location. Also seen in the film were features that are not commonly reported characteristics of aliens --six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot. I am not one who believes that alien lifeforms from other planets/ worlds/dimensions must be different from human forms. In my opionion, they could look very similar to those on earth. We do not have to assume, however, that a six-toed being is an alien from outer space. Members of ourown human species here on earth occasionally have six toes. In medical terms, having more than five digits on the hands or feet is a genetic variation called "polydactylism." Polydactylism is seen in several different medical syndromes. A syndrome is a group of symptoms that collectively characterize a disease or abnormal condition,nearly all are named by the men or women who first describe them. There are approximately 34 syndromes in which polydactylism of the fingers is present, and approximately 36 syndromes in which polydactylism of the toes is found. In approximately 12 syndromes hexadactylism (six digits) of the fingers is present, and 13 with hexadactylism of the toes. In syndactylism, two or more digits are knitted together. Different degrees exist, and there may be skin between the digits -- like webbing (as in the webbed feet of ducks). Note the description of one syndrome in particular. Extreme growth of the head; widespread eyes and deep eye sockets, abroad-based nose; increased growth of the base of the skull; a crescent-shaped skin fold at the inner upper eyelid;mongoloid axis of the eyelids; no hair between the eyebrows;lowering of the outer ear, which is small; small lips; lowerjaw underdeveloped; low birth weight; short length at birth(dwarf like); unproportioned growth (dyschondroplasia);multiple variations of the ribs, breastbone, hip, knee;malformations of inner organs possible; poly- and/or hexadactylism. This description is not that of an alien, but of a human being who suffers from "C-syndrome," or in the American medical literature, from "Opitz trigonocephaly syndrome." Only a few cases of C-syndrome have ever been described formally, and these few died very young. Still, the description indicates the variation possible in humans. Another variation seen in humans is "Ellis-van Creveld syndrome," also known as "six-fingered dwarfism." This is characterized by the underdevelopment of various bones,particularly the long bones of the body. Bilateral hexadactyly is also prevalent. Another symptom is hypoplasia (arrested development), dysplasia (abnormal development), or absence of the teeth, fingernails, or toenails. Some of these individuals show sexual infantilism, with hypoplasia of the sexual organs. One third of these patients die during the first year of life. For a syndrome to be diagnosed, key symptoms must exist, but not all symptoms have to be present. So, a human being could have some symptoms of a particular syndrome, but not all, and that human could live to early adulthood. 4. A disgraceful game For almost 50 years, the U.S. government has denied any knowledge of Roswell. In 1978, Jesse Marcel, Sr., spoke out, and the investigation of the Roswell incident began. In the spring of 1994, organizers of the International Roswell Initiative began gathering signatures on the"Roswell Declaration" asking the U.S. president for an executive order to declassify information about what happened in Roswell. So far, more than 19,000 Declarations have been signed. After decades of silence, a report on Roswell was issued in 1994 by the U.S. Air Force. The report identified the Roswell wreckage as that of a weather balloon. Most UFO researchers feel this was another attempt at a coverup. A few months after the Air Force report, 14 rolls of film appeared, supposedly showing the crashed material at Roswell, as well as an autopsy of an alien. Have we all forgotten how the MJ-12 documents appeared out of the blue? What do we really have? A film producer who knows film- and movie- making techniques, telling the public that he bought the film from an old man. The producer does not reveal the identity of the old man, but refers to him as Jack Barnett-- a name similar to Barney Barnett, an alleged Roswell character. If the film really showed alien corpses, it should have been reviewed by independent UFO organizations using scientific methods. Instead of providing the film for review, Mr.Santilli began a game of cat-and- mouse. Some hints here,some interviews there. Some pictures to elder pop stars here, some pictures to crop circle researchers there. Then,media involvement and the showing at the London Museum on May 5th. I remember when I was a medical student that by paying the dissection assistants, it would have been possible to be alone with the cadavers. With a lookout in place, students could have filmed a body. It is not unthinkable that a financially strapped student might decide to make a film to fool the UFO community. The so-called "doctors" in the film could have been anyone-- doctors, actors, army personnel, or students. The anonymity of the doctors is ensured by their outfits and masks. Who could distinguish between an actor wearing a mask and a once-living politician, given the poor lighting,poor resolution, and distance shots of the film? Recently, those involved with the Santilli film have attempted to explain themselves and establish the legitimacy of the film in interviews and on the Internet. However, in my opinion, they have lost their chance to be taken seriously by not playing it straight from the start. Serious researchers should not lend credibility to Santilli's case. British UFO Research Association (BUFORA) especially should not show the Santilli film at the Sheffield conference in August. Instead, they should insist on a scientific analysis of the film by independent researchers (not Mr. Mantle). Mr. Santilli should not be invited to speak until he has disclosed everything about the source of the film, and until he has verified that he is not an employee of any intelligence agency. If BUFORA permits a showing of the Santilli film without scientific analysis,they are only encouraging this farce. The UFO community should wake up! It's time to stop Santilli, with his unscientific handling of this matter because he is damaging the credibility of the UFO community. Our research into the possibility of extraterrestrial life should not be tainted by the Santillis of this world who follow only their own interests. We continue to engage in, and believe strongly in, free,independent, public, and scientific UFO research. We shall reject any who shun that kind of UFO research for the sake of money, religion, politics, or power. I will help thwart those on this planet who try to prevent humankind from evolving into a member of the cosmic community. Joachim Koch Hans-Juergen Kyborg __________________________________________________________ The *International Roswell Initiative* was founded by *Kent Jeffrey* (USA), *Joachim Koch* and *Hans-Juergen Kyborg* (both Berlin, Germany) in 1994. It is officially greatly supported (among many others) by MUFON, CUFOS and FUFOR and became one of the most successful international grassroots efforts in Ufology at that time with more than 20,000 signed "Roswell Declarations". ********************************************************** ---------------------------------------- http://www.kochkyborg.de ---------------------------------------- 17:49:24 27.06.2005
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