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Opera code names uncovered

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We've had some requests lately about where Opera 9.x is heading, so I'll give you a sneak peak into the current projects and their internal code names. We usually prefer code names over version numbers until the product actually ships.


Merlin

Merlin is the current code base, used for 9.0, 9.1 and the coming 9.2. On Merlin the main focus is on stability and only select new features are added. As you can see, the version number of the last preview build was 9.2, which normally indicates new functionality. The new feature is close to completion and will be unveiled here later this month. You have not seen it in a desktop browser before...


- Merlin falcons often hunt by flying fast and low, typically less than 1 meter above the ground, taking prey by surprise. Rolls-Royce used the same code-name for the engine that powered the legendary Spitfire.


Peregrine

The most important planned update to Opera on desktop. Peregrine will contain significant improvements in the user interface, improved standards support, improved performance, thousands of bug fixes and groundbreaking new functionality. In other words: We're pretty excited about it.

Previews of Peregrine will be found on this blog in 2007.

- The Peregrine Falcon is the fastest creature on the planet in its hunting dive, the stoop, in which it soars to a great height, then dives steeply at speeds in excess of 300 km/h. Suzuki named the fastest production motorcycle in the world after the Japanese word for Peregrine, Hayabusa.


Kestrel

Kestrel is the latest addition to our roadmap and fills the gap between Merlin and Peregrine. It will be the first release with rendering improvements from Peregrine. For the first time we will coordinate the desktop release with other Opera products, working towards a more unified Opera experience across devices. If you haven't done so yet, it's time to try out Opera Mini on your mobile phone.

- The Kestrel falcon is able to see ultraviolet, which helps them spot prey while hovering 10-20 meters over the ground. The Rolls-Royce Kestrel engine was later replaced by the Peregrine...

New weekly build

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1st.................. hurraay
but no dl links....

Thank you for the insight.

By impotent, # 16. February 2007, 16:57:01

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Nice!
But where a new Merlin build? :wink:
Research Wizard should be happy with new info. :smile:

By FataL, # 16. February 2007, 17:01:43

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heyoo third; but where's our weekly toy? :smile:

By aegeus, # 16. February 2007, 17:09:55

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No new build this week either, we need to polish the new 9.2 feature that we just brought over from the peregrine code branch...

By borg, # 16. February 2007, 17:11:41

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@borg :... regarding... Merlin...

As you can see, the version number of the last preview build was 9.2, which normally indicates new functionality. The new feature is close to completion and will be unveiled here later this month. You have not seen it in a desktop browser before...

Hmmm... have we seen it on the Nintendo Wii... *intelligent zooming*... ???

By Investor, # 16. February 2007, 17:13:46

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Very nice names.

Much more better than these proposed by my brain as »Commander Crasher« or »Ugly Owl« for some unusable circumstances of weeklies :wink:

By GwenDragon, # 16. February 2007, 17:15:40

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really cool names :o:

now i'm excited!! :hat:

By philry4n, # 16. February 2007, 17:18:08

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You have not seen it in a desktop browser before...
Any desktop browser or just Opera? :wink:
Lets play guess game... :smile: What the new feature we will see latter this month?
My guess is... well, I don't know. :D

By FataL, # 16. February 2007, 17:18:50

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Kestrel

By FataL, # 16. February 2007, 17:21:40

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whoa what a big disappointment.
The suspense is killing me, man.
1 more week.

By impotent, # 16. February 2007, 17:26:04

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& why does it seem to me that this blog is turning to be a zoological park?

By impotent, # 16. February 2007, 17:28:04

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Whaouh, thanks a lot for this beautiful project ^^

I'm so excited p:

By Kuja IX, # 16. February 2007, 17:30:51

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Opera Peregrine...

Well, the *prey* in future will be a couch potato watching YouTube, or similar... So Peregrine must be trained to catch the *Content provider*... Indeed, videos... rendered faster and faster... all of them :wink:

By Investor, # 16. February 2007, 17:43:55

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Very exciting. :smile: I'm mostly looking forward to trying out the css3 functionality in Peregrine. While builds in "2007" sound good, any idea if it'll be Q1, Q2, something...?

By Fyrd, # 16. February 2007, 17:46:38

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"Previews of Peregrine will be found on this blog in 2007"

So wonderful!

By ioccccc, # 16. February 2007, 17:48:41

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hmm kestrel and merlin are both gallente frigates at eve online :=)

By mkoo, # 16. February 2007, 17:53:14

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Thanks for the update on upcoming releases always exiting to hear. To the developers keep up the great work on opera. :-) very cool code names by the way.

By intelimac20inch, # 16. February 2007, 17:59:19

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Just curious, does "not seen in a desktop browser before" also mean there's no Firefox extension that does it? :smile:

(not that that would detract any value from the feature, but it would help in guessing)

By Fyrd, # 16. February 2007, 18:01:30

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Peregrine 4 the win!


sounds perfect. :hat:

By CaseyJ, # 16. February 2007, 18:13:08

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My guess is that the new feature will be one of the following:

1. Calendar
2. "Browser Sync"-like option
3. Hmm...still thinking

By Fyrd, # 16. February 2007, 18:13:47

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well.. dissapointment as always

'a new feature youve never seen in browser before'.. like useless widgets, like fit-to-width that you cant enable by default making it a wasted idea, or like tabs, that behave differently than all others and you cant change that [close, and go to next to the right.. most configurable browser and cant do this on middle-click. opera is LEAST configuralble browser when it comes to tab behaviour - compare to FF with tabmix or even to some IE-mods like avant

there are lots of things, that other browsers HAVE and are NEEDED _NOW_ to attract new, and keep old users:

autocompletion [no, some shitty JS does not do it], build in spell-checking[not aspell that doesnt work inline], better adblocking [js ads, and collapsing], tools for webdevelopers [console is neat, but has no support for js editing, and is in JS itself, so it isnt very stable - compare to firebug and see why people are developing using ff] - these are things that make people trash opera on sight. you devs DO nothing to change it. we know that you are the greatest and wisest, but going against the market is suicidal. and opera is in decline.. and we all know it. ff has it all, and MUCH more. FFS, even ie6 has better developer tools than opera..

also - working M2, BETTER rss reader, m2 SUCKS as a rss reader. html mail composing/general support, better flash compatibility (i dont care that it is adobe fault, it doesnt matter to Joe Typical)

to go on - error console, that can fit in a panel, and can be CLEARED. now if you want to clear it you close opera.

im not going to mention that google, yahoo, msn completly ignores opera - soapbox, developed with VERY popular MS .net ajax does not even start to work with opera. .net ajax is cheap/free and youll see LOTS of pages that does not work with opera, simply because nobody cares. i dont know how you are going to overcome it, but i can see this simple thing making opera dead in period of few months/years.

and btw - extensions.. you shot yourselves in the foot ignoring web2.0 trend of customisation and personal adaptation. opera cant be customised beyond skins and some lousy buttons. this isnt something that attracts new users. ff is THE customisable browser, even if in some aspects opera is better, still hype says - ff is customisable.

we dont need ground breakng features, that are useless for everydays browsing, we need these BASIC things ive mentioned above.

and you opera need better marketing. sorry, but owls are not cool anymore. and letting your best customers, sitting silent for two weeks without simple 'sorry, no build this week' was rude. lets see who is missing this week, because you know, you are loosing customers this way.

and btw you also need new forum software. this one was shitty at the start and hasnt improved since. monkey servers are nice, but.. immature and do not do you good when you show them frequently to customers due to faulty proxy configuration.

ps your forum system cant read properly square brackets and 'i' char put together (start of italic tag)

By whatever3, # 16. February 2007, 18:36:34

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Thank, that once again is not weekly release. Show up, that all is already perfect!

By Trasak, # 16. February 2007, 18:40:20

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Wow. How wonderfully poetic and vague.
Come on guys, at least give us one new future from peregrine.
Umm.. a viral marketing campaign with cryptic messages and hidden clues would be fun :smile:

like fit-to-width that you cant enable by default making it a wasted idea

Its extremely useful, if you use a low res screen or have a high res screen but dont keep the browser windows maximised. And yes, you can set it to be the default behaviour (you need to edit the .ini file). But, thats not recommended. Instead add it as a button.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=940976

But, yes I dont care how many wonderful new features opera adds, if it doesn't add extensions soon, and if fx become a bit more smooth (v3 is looking good), I may have to switch. And that is coming from a die hard opera fan.
Its really frustrating, as opera should have added an api for devs by v8. Ie, firefox, maxthon - all major browsers allow addons.
Addons are necessary, as each individual has different taste. And its impossible for a company to make it perfect for everyone.

By Indyan, # 16. February 2007, 18:44:01

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What is a "bug" to you? Is it any site that doesn't look/work right in Opera? If not, what does "thousands of bug fixes" mean exactly? Do you actually have a list of >2000 bugs right now to fix?

By rseiler, # 16. February 2007, 18:44:25

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A software bug is an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program that prevents it from behaving as intended (e.g., producing an incorrect result).


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug

So for exampl: if one site, or a number of sites, don't look like the creator intended, because of a flaw in Opera, while Opera's programmers intended it to work just fine, it's a bug. Obviously, if getting rid of this one bug means 10 sites look better, I'm sure they count is as 1 bug :wink:

By Knippers, # 16. February 2007, 18:53:04

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Very interesting information, thanks a lot!

By XRock, # 16. February 2007, 18:56:59

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whatever3, your message was hostile, rude and unhelpful. Which makes it appear your only intention was to promote FF not improve Opera. And if you aren't here to help, then why are you here?

You alienate those who could agree with you because you're on some sort of power trip of Opera bashing. Sadly, that will help no one.

Yum

By WillYum, # 16. February 2007, 18:58:48

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Originally posted by "whatever3":


and letting your best customers, sitting silent for two weeks without simple 'sorry, no build this week' was rude

Yes that was very rude....

By MisterE, # 16. February 2007, 19:00:30

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Great to know all that. I hope new features on Merlin be as new and unseen as it sounds :wink:

Tks a Lot

Yes, I'm using Opera Mini on my phone.:cheers:

By andresruiz, # 16. February 2007, 19:04:27

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Who wants to play "Guess the feature" ? :D

By Akbalder, # 16. February 2007, 19:11:23

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"whatever3, your message was hostile, rude and unhelpful. Which makes it appear your only intention was to promote FF not improve Opera. And if you aren't here to help, then why are you here?"

care to read the facts/questions i posted, or you'll concentrate on attitude. id realy want to hear comments on what i wrote, not how i did it. commenting my attitude also doesnt change a thing.

and btw, you shold realise, that applauding to everything opera does is not helping opera either. i dont like SEVERAL things that opera devs do, but i still use this browser everyday. im not promoting ff either, but state that ff in many aspects grown over opera - like marketing and copying and POLISHING features from others. ff stole many opera' ideas, but polished them and sold as new. if you as anybody who invented tabs, most people are going to say 'ff'. sorry, thats the way the merketing works. and opera doesnt get it.

guess the feature? list all that you can imagine and cut all usefull ones. that what left is going to be in opera 10. for sure.

By whatever3, # 16. February 2007, 19:13:42

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if you as anybody who invented tabs, most people are going to say 'ff'. sorry, thats the way the merketing works. and opera doesnt get it.

Btw, Opera didnt invent tabs either. It was Internet Works in 1994. Opera's early MDI was nothing like tabs. It was infact more uncomfortable to use (in my opinion), thatn an untabbed browser. I think opera implemented what you can term as tabs with v6 (not very sure).

ff in many aspects grown over opera - like marketing and copying and POLISHING features from others. ff stole many opera' ideas, but polished them and sold as new.

Thats why opera cant afford to do without an api.
Till now, it had a distinct advantage over Fx. So allthough I want many of he features provided many extensions in Fx, I am still using Opera. But Fx, is fast adding various features (first implemented in Opera) and closing the gap.

By Indyan, # 16. February 2007, 19:19:41

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@whatever3

What WillYum said, you make a couple of good points, but you're coming off as a troll. Also, "Opera is in decline"? Why, because there's a lot of Firefox users out there? Lately we've been hearing more and more about Opera's deals with cell phone makers and other companies (like Nintendo), so I suspect they're really doing better than ever, as a company.

By Fyrd, # 16. February 2007, 19:20:44

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Opera is superior in many ways to other browsers.I myself cant use it on a daily basis because i need certain extensions to get the job done.Bottom line,opera will keep suffering until it makes an extensions api for people to build upon.Its just ridiculous ignoring it all this time while Firefox thrives being so extendable.Being concerned about security is nonsense,firefox can do it and remain relatively secure.I would love to see Operas implementation of extensions,bet it would be great!

By ne081, # 16. February 2007, 19:26:10

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whatever3:
i still use this browser everyday.


Are you sure?.

whatever3:
like fit-to-width that you cant enable by default making it a wasted idea


Tools>Preferences>Web Pages>Fit to Width.

Not really a good idea to start a rant by shooting yourself in the foot in the first paragraph but whatever...

By Tracio, # 16. February 2007, 19:36:14

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Just... just promise me you won't remove SDI. I need my... uh... lack of tabs.

By Val_Parthen, # 16. February 2007, 19:39:11

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@whatever3: Tools > Preferences > Web pages > [X] Fit to width.

By Junyor, # 16. February 2007, 19:40:36

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""Opera is in decline"? Why, because there's a lot of Firefox users out there?"

no, and yes

i'm proffesional web developer, solution architect if you want to call it that way. lately i had to develop large extranet for a multimilion company. one of the points to achieve was a cross-browser compatibilty with opera 9.x, ff 2.x and ie6+7.

as you probably know, you dont use handwritten code nowadays, when developing things like this. you use commercial plugins to your dev enviroment. ours is MS VS2k5 .net 2.0. and we had to choose AJAX framework. out of almost 20, only 3 supported opera reliably. thats why opera is on decline. this customer insisted on opera support. but others did not, when we upped the prce by 30% to add another browser on the compatibility list.

and it is not because oepra cant do. it can. but opera makes it hard with various frustrating little things, like, why the hell there is no onLoad on using 'back'.. or the whole right-click functionality.. i know you guys have a nice context menu, but why you dont add an event to use it.. i can put webmenu to the right of yourmenu and everyones happy. but no, you block the doors. and do it many times.

managing FF and IEs is hard, adding opera, with her own quirks and very bad support on devs side adding things developers NEEEEED!!!! is a nightmare. and customers are less and less wilingly to pay for this nightmare.

you see it everyday - google, yahoo, msn, wordpress, lots of RTF controlls. all this had an option to become opera compatible, but it was found to pricey. and it is not going to change. why problems? read quirksmode.org and find out why opera is the 'least liked' js event handler out there.

we, developers do not care abut SVG, we care about dev tools. we do not care about css3 selectors [we cant use them, and we dont, we have prototype and xpath] we care about at least supporting some events you purposedly ommited, we dont care about ultra security, we do need RELIABLE ntlm support.. etc etc.. but this is another thing opera doesnt understand

By whatever3, # 16. February 2007, 19:42:26

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Is there any truth to the rumor the next version of I.E. is code named Gooney Bird?

By EdB, # 16. February 2007, 19:46:32

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Most Firefox users (that I know) don't use extensions at all and most of them don't even know about its existence. Many web developers that I know use mostly Developer Toolbar and Firebug extensions.
Lets look at Firefox recommended add-ons. Nothing so special I can say.
If Opera will add good (native) analogus of Developer Toolbar and Firebug there will be only one major and popular thing left--syncronization and integration with bookmarking services.
As we can see there is no big need for extensions API. Why we need it if 99% of users even not open Preferences dialog for once... (and there is not something special about Opera)

By FataL, # 16. February 2007, 19:53:48

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@whatever3: Opera 9.0+ fires onload when navigating back in history. See http://www.opera.com/support/search/view/827/ for details. If you're having trouble getting it working, we'd like to know.

By Junyor, # 16. February 2007, 19:54:15

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...or the whole right-click functionality.. i know you guys have a nice context menu, but why you dont add an event to use it.. i can put webmenu to the right of yourmenu and everyones happy. but no, you block the doors.
Well, putting something exclusively on right click menu is a bad practice from usability and accessibility points of view.
You should at least have other way to do the job without right click menu--learn from Mac interface guidlines.
Also, as Opera user I will be very frustrated if someone can disable or substitute default context menu in Opera...

By FataL, # 16. February 2007, 20:08:27

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"Also, as Opera user I will be very frustrated if someone can disable or substitute default context menu in Opera..."

but removing onContextMenu event blocks also the ability to have two menus alongside. and this is the opera practice i hate. blocking doors and 'knowing better'. as i told, there are ways, detecting right click and overcoming it, but just like Blizzard with WoW site, not all are willing to pay for it.

By whatever3, # 16. February 2007, 20:14:51

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@whatever3
you may be reasonable in some points, i admit, but this way you are very frustrating, what do you want them to do ? surrender ? if it was my choice i will never do
you looks openminded, and you may help opera developers by your suggestions in wishlist forum: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=24 , if you want to do

@devs
i expect from you the best, but after all those raptors, opera realy needs for peacefull pigeons, the main target users dream about (for opera as only web browser) is about scripts behavior, not speed, opera is fast enough, it is not a race !!
good luck :smile:

By Khaled Khalil, # 16. February 2007, 20:15:17

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Most Firefox users (that I know) don't use extensions at all and most of them don't even know about its existence.

Isnt it against Opera's princple - more power to the users?
Opera is supposed to be a power tool. 3 reasons for me needing extensions :
I need something like AIRoboform (autoform filler - wand doesnt manage to fill properly any forms - note : i am not talking about putting in login passwords).
I need Stumble Upon.
I need as-u-type spell checker.

And then there are more...

Sometime back, I wanted to change my ua to fake alexa toolbar. No one in the forums was able to tell me, how to change my ua in opera without using other software like proxomitron.


By Indyan, # 16. February 2007, 20:18:31

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@whatever3

I don't think you're speaking for all web developers there, to be honest...the web's a big place, you know. For those of us who do use hand-written non-AJAX code, Internet Explorer's still the biggest criminal in what it doesn't support properly. Though I agree most of your issues should eventually be addressed to by Opera, I'm glad they're working on SVG and CSS3 to give us better options in the future of web design.

@FataL

Yeah, I'm not in much hurry for Opera extensions either, I much prefer recommending a browser to people that does all the important stuff out of the box. Admittedly, more options would be nice for power-users.

By Fyrd, # 16. February 2007, 20:19:28

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whatever3...

What do you mean by "you don't use handwritten code"? I'm also a full-time web developer and I can't say that we've ever used anything other than hand-written code.

Even when working in .NET 2.0 (which I like, but don't get to use as often as Java or PHP) nearly everything is done by hand... I've never found asp:TextBox to be worth using in place of an input type="text" runat="server" or the like.

and when it comes to fancy javascript or ajax, I think it's far easier to do it myself. take, for instance, asp: DragPanel, which is part of the .NET ajax toolkit (although it's nothing really to do with ajax). I've had a draggable div object in use on sites for qutie a while. It wasn't hard to make, it took about 30 lines of javascript and 5 lines of CSS, and it works in IE, FF, Opera, Safair, and Konquerer. It probably works in other browsers too, but those are all I test with on a daily basis. Having "hand-written" it once, I avoided having to license dev toolkits for any sites I work on, and I can easily fix it if any future browsers stop rendering it correctly.

I rarely have any issues developing with support for Opera since writing to W3C specs and using normal DOM-compliant scripting usually provides full functionality in Opera and Firefox, leaving the headaches for getting IE to work.

I think charging an extra 30% to get Opera support is absurd. Maybe you should stop relying on other people to make libraries to do your work, write your own components, and do them so they work across browsers. Otherwise you're more of a professional toolkit-implementer than a developer of any kind...

By eshbach, # 16. February 2007, 20:22:16

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Does Peregrine mean better OS integration as well? :D :D

:faint: You guys really have made me as anxious as a kid in a candy store, you know? You all should be ashamed of yourselves :cheers:. Evil... just evil.

By Khadgar, # 16. February 2007, 20:31:34

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I want this new build... as soon as possible! p: :wink:

Ciao, Igor

By igorditerni, # 16. February 2007, 20:32:21

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handwritten code - reinwenting the wheel once more. we dont do homesites, or product sites. we do large scale extra/intranet sites for corporations. and we charge ~30% more per any browser above ie6/ff2.0. just because practice shows that it takes 30% more time each time we have to add another browser. and TIME is the most important factor here.

we sure develop our own custom controls. we use our own prototype mods and addons, xpath wrappers to overcome css selector deficiency, and many, many more. but in the end, there are always 3rd party parts you need to use, and choosing them carefully is typicaly better than writting it from the start. mostly because you get your stage1 app working faster, that allows dbase guys to start developing live etc. all the work goes faster, when you can see it going, and client can start applying pressure on the most important parts. thats why it is sometimes better to use 3rd party, TESTED parts. few 100$ apiece is well worth it, i assure you. even more so, when you get half a mill..

and please, let us all pray silent to default asp web controls.. oh mama how i hate them :smile: but want it or not, MS .net ajax is going to take large portion of the market. and better for opera to work with it well.

By whatever3, # 16. February 2007, 20:36:01

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