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Who is Dr. David Shen Verdesi?

Born in Rome, Dr. Verdesi has dedicated his life to the study of human potential, mainly through the Chinese tradition; ranging from Shamanism to the main schools of Daoism. From an early age he became fascinated with Chinese culture and spiritual practice. Disenchanted with the limited potential of formal education, he began traveling throughout Asia in his early teens and quickly gained access to the inner most circles of the Daoist community.

Over fifteen years of personal research as an anthropologist in China and Asia, including collaborative research with major universities and hospitals in China and the United States, have culminated in unprecedented access to some of the most sought after teachers and Daoist schools in China. Among his many teachers, He is a close personal student of Shifu (teacher) Wang Liping, the Daoist master written about in the acclaimed book Opening the Dragon Gate: the making of a modern Taoist wizard. He is also a student of Shifu John Chang, the subject of another well known book entitled The Magus of Java: teachings of an authentic Taoist immortal. Both books are very much recommended to the members here and will vastly help in understanding the discussions and concepts presented on the forum.

Dr. Verdesi also teaches traditional Chinese Qigong and Daoist practice. For his own students, Dr. Verdesi has opened a door to a hidden world were magic and legend are as real and tangible as the air we breathe. Passed down from teacher to student for thousands of years, the practices he teaches are the very foundational methods and principles used by the some of the most successful, highly realized and enlightened sages of Taoist history, and indeed in human history; taught to him by living immortals, the lineage holder masters and living embodiment of their respective traditions.

Dr. Verdesi lives and teaches with his wife Anna in southern Asia and China where he is currently writing a series of books on Daoist cultivation at the request of Shifu Wang Liping.

What is the purpose of the forum?

The Foundation Training Forum has three main functions: first, to serve as a meeting place for Dr. Verdesi and his current students to discuss the principles and methods of the training; secondly, to create environment were communication between Dr. Verdesi, his teachers and students can come together and share their experiences while spreading basic principles as well as general knowledge of authentic Daoist practices to the general public for the benefit of the planet; and lastly, to provide training opportunities for those interested.

The forum is divided into two sections; one for members and one for students. Members cannot see nor have access to the student forum.

Why are the practices Dr. Verdesi teaches kept secret?

Like most traditional Daoist teachers. Dr. Verdesi does not teach openly to the public. There are several advantages to this style of teaching. Perhaps the biggest advantage is being able to select students who the teacher feels will benefit from this type of training and be successful. Unlike a conventional educational setting in the west such as a high school or public university, the Daoist teacher makes a deep personal commitment to the success and well being of each student. It is therefore important for the teacher to select students who are committed and responsible and therefore have the greatest chances for success. In China and Daoist circles in particular, the conduct and commitment of the student directly reflect on and impact the teacher and the school as a whole. Most of all, it’s important for the potential student be and show sincerity and seriousness and respect toward the teacher.

On another level, many of the advanced practices taught in Daoist settings carry considerable risk to the novice student. It's therefore the master’s obligation to test the student and find out if he or she is really ready, both in terms of comment and understanding as well as the health and constitution of the student. Just as NASA doesn’t send unqualified, untrained personal into space because of the risk to the person and the investment made, a master will not teach to those who are not ready; it’s just not safe nor worth the effort and investment unless the proper training and preparation is observed by both student and teacher.

Those interested in pursuing this line of training, should do so only under the direct guidance of a qualified master. Attempting to practice on your own or from a book is a sure way to seriously damage your nervous system or even cause unintentional death. Internal practices of this kind are powerful means of energetic transformation and expression. So powerful in fact that the training is capable of manifesting sudden and profound influences on a person's core vitality at both ends of the spectrum, sometimes resulting in permanently curing or killing the practitioner.

Karmic consequences can be even more devastating than the physical death of the aspiring practitioner if the powers that the practices convey are abused or misused. All these possibilities should be carefully weighed by the student as well as the teacher before committing one's self.

What does the foundation training consist of?

The foundation training is divided into two main activities; the moving form and the sitting practice. Called xing shen zhuang and shen zheng gong respectively.

Xing shen zhuang, the moving form, is a 10th century form created within the Emei Shan Pai. It has mixed intent and results in both the hou tian and xian tian category. It is of fundamental importance as a preparatory exercise to the foundation practice and should be practiced for one year, before each sitting session.

The method focuses on the spine and a special sequence of points which are unlocked and opened, connecting life lines and meridians and strengthening the internal organs.

Most of all it creates a frame and form within which to develop Zheng Qi. This allows a much faster result in both stilling the mind and the ability to sit cross legged, fully erect for long the stretches of time necessary for completion of the internal processes.

The sitting meditation is called shen zheng gong. This system belongs to the zhu ji stage, or foundation stage, and is mostly used in the Jin Dan Dao within its various pai (branch schools). It’s also used in some pai of the Lei Shan Dao. It is called sheng zheng gong in the school of Da Zhen and has different names in other schools like qiao duo tian gong or dan tian nei qi xiu lian or da jing gong.

The transmission taught by Dr. Verdesi was passed down by three highly accomplished masters: Li Siao, Wang Liping, and Da Zhen. The lines of teaching received from these three masters are different in approach; logically they are influenced by the pai which they are transmitted in, but similar in principle and in result. The practice is passed down undiluted the way was passed on to Dr. Verdesi.

The goal of the practices belonging to zhu ji can be summarized using Jin Dan Pai terminology; create the dantian and gather ‘the ingredient’ for the ‘great opera’ and then merge them to create the dan yao. In this process the fa xin and the manifestation of the clear light that Daoists call the xian tian guan xin arise.

The attainment of stillness and arising of the true self and the luminous empty nature of the uncreated unborn original mind (a manifestation of certain aspects of the shen) can even lead to ru ding, the condition that allows the process of conscious death where for long periods of time the body is actually dead and the shen undergoes the first of the seven pian hua.

The above are but zhu ji, the basic foundation needed to actually begin ‘real’ Daoist Cultivation. Of course, the achievement of these levels are not easy to realize, but within one year of dedicated, practice most people experience an-jing and some even ru ding stages, when inner silence is actually reached and the mind reverts to the ‘non-conceptual’ stage before the arising of thoughts.

According to Dr. Verdesi, the goal and result of the foundation practices is that of most meditative methods and traditions, but it’s accomplished much more efficiently and quickly:


“The experience of how the Descartes axiom of ‘Cogito ergo sum, or I think therefore I am.’ is a flawed, unskillful perception of the self and reality; for in truth, it is only when the cogito or idea-thought disappears, that the true self can arise. The experience that the ‘self’ exists only when there are no more arising thoughts is for most mediators an achievement of a lifetime. All my masters have repeatedly stated, ‘Everybody can do things and move their mind around to play with their qi. Few can keep it still and eventually dissolve it. This is gong fu, this is where Dao begins.’

Note that only when two hours of actual, unbroken non-arising thought, non-conceptual mind and complete empty stillness are achieved, can you actually talk of gong fu and consider your zhu ji to be worthy of the attention of a Xian (immortal master). Most masters don’t even look at you or simply do not reveal themselves and the true practices if those conditions are not rooted in the body-mind of the potential apprentice.

In order to reach this stage in the first year of practice, the first four months of celibacy, coupled with at least three hours of daily practice of the zhen fa is needed to reach a good level of san jing ji lei (the gathering of the first ingredient); which eventually leads to the ability to revert the direction of the current of the body-mind and collect the second ingredient.

Within 2 years or less, the ingredients are gathered and the so called xiao kan li or lesser kan & li actually takes place (this process has nothing to do with the practices that have been presented in the west by the various popular Daoist teachers and systems which have become widely available and written about). The result of this is the creation of the dan yao or zhu, the inner medicine of the body-mind; dispelling ignorance and disease and replenishing yang, the stage that requires the introduction of nei gong skills in order to open the dantien and fill it up with Yang.”
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