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Zips @ 4:00 pm pst - cstrike pc
Apparently, the last update made it so that the voluntary BETA for advertisements in Counter-Strike 1.6 are no long voluntary.



I scoped out Office to see if the ads had made their way into the corporate setting, but they have not. So far, I've only seen them in Dust2 and Aztec. These still seem to be the placeholder ads that were used in the BETA. Meaning, these are all ads for Valve's own games right now, and the "true" ads may be coming along shortly.

By "true" ads, I mean those that are for products that are not created by Valve. Hopefully, they will not look like such a sore thumb on the map walls. Of course, this is all just speculation on my part. The non-Valve ads could also end up being just as "stamped on" as the current ones are.

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comment #1
infil87

3:48 pm pst - 3/5/07
The WORST thing is that Valve has been keeping their mouths shut! No news about it, and it isn't even in the changelog. What a bunch of assholes, seriously. They make good games and everything. I bet they're great guys and what-not, but this is just pathetic.

I think in a very short while, Valve will realize what they've done, and remove them. I can't imagine that they can get away with this.

comment #2
peagle

3:51 pm pst - 3/5/07
infil87 wrote..
I think in a very short while, Valve will realize what they've done, and remove them.
I find that scenario less likely than a successful hostage rescue in cs_assault.

comment #3
infil87

4:01 pm pst - 3/5/07
peagle wrote..
I find that scenario less likely than a successful hostage rescue in cs_assault.
Maybe it's just me hoping. But after seeing how many people are really pissed off by this, I can't shake the idea of Valve removing them...

comment #4
Zips

Tin God - #csnation

4:08 pm pst - 3/5/07
infil87 wrote..
Maybe it's just me hoping. But after seeing how many people are really pissed off by this, I can't shake the idea of Valve removing them...
Where'd I put that DWP at?

comment #5
pwnedbyIbanez

4:12 pm pst - 3/5/07
Nah, I doubt Valve would do anything to change their standpoint of ads, except to add more ads into maps...

CURSE YOU, EA!!!

comment #6
Bokuho

Too damn good.

4:16 pm pst - 3/5/07
peagle wrote..
I find that scenario less likely than a successful hostage rescue in cs_assault.
Not actually all that hard.

Anyhoo. This is a shame, but eh, we've known stuff like this was coming for awhile. The only real surprise is that they didn't slap this stuff in a couple of years ago back when CS was at it's real height.
Still. Shame they had to go and put them up on my favourite spray icon locations. Or what were my favourite spray icon locations, because lulz, who plays CS now anyway? m i rite?

i m rite.

comment #7
V.C. Sniper

4:19 pm pst - 3/5/07
I really like the look of the Half-Life 2: Episode Two ad! =D

comment #8
Zips

Tin God - #csnation

4:59 pm pst - 3/5/07
V.C. Sniper wrote..
I really like the look of the Half-Life 2: Episode Two ad! =D
Would make for some good box art... -cough-

comment #9
acidsnow

Better living through chemistry.

4:59 pm pst - 3/5/07
Looks like its time for the AIDS GNOME to make another appearance

AIDS IN CS 1.6
.....||
......\\
........{_}
........ /*\
......./_*_\
..... .{('o')}
C{{([^*^])}}D
....... [ * ]
....... / Y \
.....\__|__/_
....(___/ \___)

comment #10
entRo

5:02 pm pst - 3/5/07
If Valve wants to put ads in our games, fine, but give us our games for free.

Promises of reduced prices with Steam, and we get MORE expensive games, which seem to be following a trend of half-finished content. Now we get ads in our overpriced, half-finished games?

Yaaaaay! Kiss my dick you assholes.

comment #11
Gpig

5:06 pm pst - 3/5/07
It's about time; I was so pissed when I bought Counter-Strike and there weren't ads in it. I'm glad there's companies like Valve and EA to answer gamers cries for more ads. Gaming is an expensive hobby, and we've suffered ad-less oppression for too long. No longer!

Meh, I guess I'll just finish out the CAL season and call it quits if there aren't any fixes released. Of course CAL won't support the fixes while CEVO will, because CAL is CAL.

comment #12
kalabalana

5:17 pm pst - 3/5/07
I wonder how long until there's a new plugin mod that just puts a texture square right over all the ads in game.

comment #13
obsidianelite6

5:23 pm pst - 3/5/07
nice. they spend time working on ads for the black box in dust2 instead of getting the black box out to customers.

comment #14
acidsnow

Better living through chemistry.

5:27 pm pst - 3/5/07
Zips wrote..
There's been other outlets for that sort of thing. Perhaps once the final release of the ads is closer, they'll say something.

comment #15
Zips

Tin God - #csnation

5:35 pm pst - 3/5/07
"Perhaps"

comment #16
meowmeow

5:41 pm pst - 3/5/07
God I fucking hate EA and their retarded ideas, Valve is like the good kid who got sucked in by the bad and is now smoking pot behind the school building.

comment #17
I2o[G]uE TacT-X
TO DIRECTX 7, OR NOT TO DIRECTX 7, THAT IS THE QUESTION!

6:08 pm pst - 3/5/07
I mean to be nonconstructive.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

comment #18
Fragalishus

6:23 pm pst - 3/5/07
You know it's funny, these ads are probably doing just what valve intended. I didn't really play 1.6 much anymore anyway, and this just makes sure I'll never play it again, which is what they want. Piss enough people off to move to Source. Once they come to Source, I'll quit playing that. But they don't care, they already have my money.

And the sad part is all the lackey's who keep playing. There should have been an international boycott the day these rolled out. Get everyone to not log in to Steam at all playing any game until they're removed. But there's about as much chance of that happening as me getting to nail Jessica Alba.

comment #19
omgomgz

6:48 pm pst - 3/5/07
Fragalishus wrote..
Piss enough people off to move to Source.
Basically, and it's working like a charm.

comment #20
skankuser
-this comment was removed by a moderator at 7:45 pm pst on 3/5/07-

comment #21
icemanz-alb
i was understanding meat on market is good

7:56 pm pst - 3/5/07
Edited by icemanz-alb @ 12:13 pm pst on 3/6/07

zips is a gernig.

comment #22
dmjb

8:05 pm pst - 3/5/07
I want you to know that Intel has their ads up today.

comment #23
nzc

8:11 pm pst - 3/5/07
csnation editors:

Whats your opinion on this? As a gamer, i find this incredibly ridiculous, and unacceptable. Why does Valve feel the need to just keep destroying the faith of the already shaky support that players have. First they release steam, and it sucks. It _still_ sucks. It's still a buggy POS. Then instead of fixing their already released software, they instead go and do this.

How does this help the relationship between players and companies?
How much more garbage do we, the PAYING CUSTOMERS, the ones who should have all the power, take from idiotic, money-grabbing companies?

I dont know, but until we actually do something about it, my guess is that the trend is going to continute, crap like DWP and ads and all the other pointless, needless "updates" are going to continue.

comment #24
omgomgz

8:32 pm pst - 3/5/07
Gpig wrote..
Meh, I guess I'll just finish out the CAL season and call it quits if there aren't any fixes released. Of course CAL won't support the fixes while CEVO will, because CAL is CAL.
I'll hold it to you.

comment #25
masterren

8:34 pm pst - 3/5/07
Eww, those ads don't blend in at all. Maybe it would look more natural if the sharpness was equal to the textures around it. Take a look at the GameHelper banners.

comment #26
Deletable_Man

8:40 pm pst - 3/5/07
As a 56ker, <FUCKING MAULED BY BEARS>....... nevermind.

Yeah the rare times I still play CS, its at a LAN party late at night after most of the ecocking clan losers have lost and went home (thanks for staying and keeping the LAN party jumpin', dickheads; turns out theres more than CS to play) and all that's left is people who wanna remember when CS was fun and we get together and play jeepathon, leetskeets, <insert 20 other nipper maps>, and all that good shit (which lack the Valve ads) so bring the damn ads!

If CS is supposed to be some sorta sport, then its only natural as sports have become to play your rounds of CS on Alltel de_aztec and Bank of America de_dust2 during the All-American Cheeseburger Challenge presented by McDonalds event. Deal with it.

I amuse myself.

comment #27
shorty114

9:56 pm pst - 3/5/07
http://digg.com/gaming_news/An_Open_Let...e_in_game_ads

comment #28
Thortok2000

10:14 pm pst - 3/5/07
By "true" ads, I mean those that are for products that are not created by Valve. Hopefully, they will not look like such a sore thumb on the map walls. Of course, this is all just speculation on my part. The non-Valve ads could also end up being just as "stamped on" as the current ones are.
It wouldn't surprise me if Valve is having a hard time getting anyone to buy screen time with these ads. And if they do, I doubt they'll be like "Okay, give us $5,000 to have your ad in CS for a month, oh and by the way make it unobtrusive." Of course not.

A game like 2142 which has ads in it when you buy it is bad enough. I haven't seen those so I don't know how bad they are. But adding them into a game that's been owned by so many people for so long a time and is still consistently played is probably one of the worst business moves I know.

Their karma is dropping like a rock. How they expect to make any money with the kind of karma they're getting from this is beyond me.

comment #29
Crilix

10:15 pm pst - 3/5/07
Wow, I was hoping they'd do an intellegent job with these ads, making them look like they *fit in*. But instead, they've been out done by EA of all people. (I find the BF2142 ads WAY better) Shame on you Valve, I was really wishing you'd do this properly.

...

Of course, this does mean CS1.6 will have had a significant game-specific update more recently than CS:S and DoD:S
-Cril

comment #30
baconman

11:30 pm pst - 3/5/07
ADS YES!

not like we paid for the game or anything..........................................
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......terrible idea

comment #31
DevgruSeal H.E

12:54 am pst - 3/6/07
shorty114 wrote..
http://digg.com/gaming_news/An_Open_Let...e_in_game_ads
Uhh..http://zmorris.com/?p=313 ?

comment #32
DaRk-AnGeL

The DarK one.

3:19 am pst - 3/6/07
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Advertising is a way of life, no matter how shit it makes stuff look. On one level, websites like this NEED advertising to pay the bills, we understand this. On another level, Valve put ads in game to make more money (they are greedy and sold out when they didn't have to).

I no longer see Valve as a reputable games maker and believe they have lost all direction of where their games should be going. Once again a great company has sold out into the shitty watery mainstream that is EA games. Very soon we will have Half-Life 2008, 2009 etc etc. They will milk the franchise down into some scripted pile of junk....

comment #33
MAX.PAYNE

5:11 am pst - 3/6/07
You know what guys?
Im REALLY MAD&ANGRY!!!

i played cs since it was 1.3,when it was just like a popular HL mod
And that big corporation suddenly just consumed the poor mod!!
And they are abusing it NOW!!!!!!!!!

Lets remove the ads ,make a patch or something like that
We should just replace couple of maps,few wad. textures and done!

comment #34
Thortok2000

7:44 am pst - 3/6/07
Here's the thing. Ads are a bad thing. Ads will make you want to buy the product. If you 'get used to them', and forget they're there, that's even WORSE. It's a proven, scientific fact that if you advertise something, more people will buy it. The more obtrusive and hard to ignore the ad is, the more people will buy it. And if it gets to the point where you're mostly 'tuning out' the ads and letting them go straight to your subconscious more often than to your consciousness, still more people will buy it.

I know this is how ads work. Ads will make me buy things, or inclined to buy things, I don't want to buy. Sure, I'm admitting that I'm weak-willed and feeble-minded, but only because all humans are. It's the reason we even have advertisements. It's the reason AOL is one of the biggest ISPs when they're one of the most worthless ones, because they spend so much on marketing instead of improving the quality of their service, and whenever internet newbies decide they want to get an ISP, the first one they think of is AOL. Even though there's better ISPs out there, the only one they've heard of is AOL, so that's what they get.

It is a proven fact that ads affect you.

So this is why I in general do not watch TV unless a show really catches my eye. (The only show I really watch right now is Heroes.) I generally wait until a TV show is released on DVD before I watch it, and before shows were released like that, I just didn't watch them. I like having an awesome television set, but I use it for console video games, DVDs, and eventually I plan to hook it up as a computer monitor, some of the time, if it turns out it works well as one.

I use Firefox to block ads. I have a virus protection software program that also blocks adware from getting on my computer. I also block spyware so that ads can't become more personalized. I filter spam in my e-mail. I use software that doesn't have any ads in it.

In short, I avoid advertisements when at all possible because they affect my decision-making when it comes time for me to buy a product. And they do so detrimentally; I may not be making the best choice if I just go with what I've heard from the horse's mouth.

In short, I feel the worst thing that can happen is for CS players to just get used to this, because they are just opening themselves up to be brainwashed by Valve. I honestly believe that every CS player should do one of the following things (in order of preference):

-Never buy a product from Valve again.
-Quit playing 1.6 altogether.
-Never look at the scoreboard or play maps with ads on them, ever.
-Hack/cheat the game, either via server or client, to remove the ads.

Players who do not do any of the above are just letting themselves get brain-raped and -washed and just asking for more abuse of the same.

I sure hope Valve realizes that their karma is rock bottom right now. The only way it could get worse is to put ads in all of their games, even HL1 and HL2.

comment #35
Jamestronik

7:52 am pst - 3/6/07
IF VALVE DOASN'T REMOVE ADDS THEY WILL LOOSE 50 % of GAMERS I CASE of STRIKE

comment #36
Fragalishus

8:30 am pst - 3/6/07
Like I alluded to in my previous post, the gamers have every bit of the power here, they just absolutely refuse to use it. I guaran-fucking-tee you if Valve walked in to work one day and saw 4 people playing Ricochet and noone else logged in to Steam at all they'd yank those ads faster than you can say....something that you can say really fast.

But they won't do it. Like fucking crack-whores looking for a fix. Valve knows they can just take a huge dump in their mouths and they'll just swallow it and say "damn that was good, got any more?".

Boycott, my friends. Petitions don't work. "Open letters to..." don't work. Stop giving them money? Works every fucking time.

While we're at it, you should make a note of every single sponsor you see in game. Sit down and write them an intelligent letter letting them know you will not be buying their products, either.

Once again, these things only work if the majority of people do it. A few of us on soap boxes aren't going to get anything done.

As I said I don't even play 1.6 so I jumped on a server to check it out. The scoreboard and spec menu aren't that bad. If they'd have stopped there I think everything would have been fine. But dust2 looks retarded as hell. Valve should go back and read the description for the game, especially if they used words like "immersive" and "realistic", which I think they did.

Anyhoo...your dollars are all that matter to them. Make them count for something.

comment #37
EnRIz

8:30 am pst - 3/6/07
A FIX IS MADE!!!

comment #38
Ryosuke T

8:33 am pst - 3/6/07
I already see real ads in the game already.

So far I mostly see Intel ads with their Intel Extreme cpu.

They can't seem to blend them in nicely, but oh well. It's just going to be a distraction but heh. We should be fine.

comment #39
omgomgz

9:14 am pst - 3/6/07
EnRIz wrote..
A FIX IS MADE!!!
You mean I complained for a few months straight.. for NOTHING??

comment #40
acidsnow

Better living through chemistry.

9:43 am pst - 3/6/07
At first i was like


but now I'm like


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