06.19.07

We will not go to Canossa

Posted in Mandriva, Standards, English at 12:14 pm by François Bancilhon

Novell, Xandros and Linspire have signed well publicized agreements with Microsoft.

Rumors on the Web have hinted that we might be next on the list. So we would like to clarify our position.

At Mandriva, we believe working in heterogeneous environments is essential to our customers. So, interoperability between the Windows and Linux world is important and must be dealt with, and anything that helps this interoperability is a good thing.

We also believe the best way to deal with interoperability is open standards, such as ODF which we support strongly and we are ready to cooperate with everyone on these topics.

As far as IP is concerned, we are, to say the least, not great fans of software patents and of the current patent system, which we consider as counter productive for the industry as a whole.

We also believe what we see, and up to now, there has been absolutely no hard evidence from any of the FUD propagators that Linux and open source applications are in breach of any patents. So we think that, as in any democracy, people are innocent unless proven guilty and we can continue working in good faith.

So we dont believe it is necessary for us to get protection from Microsoft to do our job or to pay protection money to anyone.

We plan to keep developing and distributing innovative and exciting products and making them available to the largest number in the true spirit of open source.

François Bancilhon

77 Comments »

  1. Frédéric CUIF said,

    June 19, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    Thank you, François !
    If partnership with Microsoft looks attractive, this means automatically the death of linux distro which signed with it, in the long term.

  2. plouf said,

    June 19, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    What you forgot to say is that Microsoft didnt even call you.

  3. julien said,

    June 19, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    Pour une boite qui se dit française, faire la première annonce en anglais est très douteux

    Cest bien que Mandriva ne soit pas à la botte de Microsoft et jespère que ça le restera.

    Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu et maintenant également Mandriva refusant une alliance avec Microsoft, vive le Libre !

  4. Ruminations on the Digital Realm » Archive » Mandriva will say no to Microsoft, it just needs some time to do so. said,

    June 19, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    [] Edit 2: The official statement has been released here. For your benefit I have added the text to this post. Novell, Xandros and Linspire have signed well publicized agreements with Microsoft. []

  5. Mandriva no pactará con Microsoft // menéame said,

    June 19, 2007 at 6:46 pm

    [] Mandriva no pactará con Microsoftcorp.mandriva.com/webteam/2007/06/19/we-will-not-go-to-canossa/ por vfmmeo hace pocos segundos []

  6. mattg said,

    June 19, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    Good for you Mandriva! You have my support. Ive been worried lately that my favorite disto was going to cower down to the FUD. Time for another donation to the FSF and my favorite Linux Desktop distro.

    For those others paying protection money to the M$ mob, they get what they have coming. Mass defection from the very community that made them who they are today.

    Support GPL3.

  7. Ger Schinkel said,

    June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    Thank you very much for being outspoken on this matter. More companies need to do this IMO.

  8. John Wells said,

    June 19, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    Here here! Glad to see at least one linux distro stand up and be a man.

  9. Toady said,

    June 19, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    Julien : Je ne vois pas ou est le probleme. Langlais permet de toucher le plus grand nombre de personnes. Etant donne que ce message est relaye, cette langue est largement plus adaptee.

    Francois : Thanks for this clarification.

  10. Mollerade said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    So we don’t believe it is necessary for us to get protection from Microsoft to do our job or to pay protection money to anyone.

    ooohh someone call a doctor, i fear the faint stench of death in the air. Could this be the end of Microsofts monopoly? I cant help but think all good things come to an end, and although it did lead the way, others are chomping on the bit

  11. Mandriva mauls Microsoft! at said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:06 pm

    [] What follows is a letter from Mandrivas site; http://corp.mandriva.com/webteam/2007/06/19/we-will-not-go-to-canossa/  []

  12. Marc said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    julien, last time I checked, the rest of the world does not speak french. I strongly doubt your closed minded attitude.

    Good luck for Mandriva! Microsoft is going downhill in all cases.

  13. Dennis M. said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    I was prepared to hop over to Kubuntu in case Microsoft would assimilate you, but as it seems, Mandriva is one of the few companies that, while policies may always be argued of, has strong management that remains true to their community and goals. Many, many thanks to you for clarifying your stance. Now I know I can still recommend Mandriva in the future.

  14. Robert Allen said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:39 pm

    Thanks François!

    I am long time user and promoter of Mandrake/Mandriva for desktop and business in the US. I have held my breath as M$ has begun this latest assault on our freedoms because I know they are serious about killing free software - particularly Linux - and I fear that commercial distributions are vulnerable, easy prey!

    I have much time, energy and money invested in Mandriva, and had feared that you also, might succumb to their predations. While blame would be laid on M$ for their disingenuous but powerful methods, I and my customers would necessarily move to another Linux distribution - a sad parting.

    While I personally would have prefered a stronger statement, the title of this post and your explicit recognition that the current M$ agreements are, in fact, little more than a protection racket, make the point nicely.

    I now hope that Mandriva has the corporate integrity, and resources, to maintain the position stated here, and I think they do!

    Finally, for American readers who may be ignorant of the meaning of the title of this post, We will not go to Canossa, it refers to a pilgrimage of penance by Henry IV to the fortress at Canossa. It is an expression common in Europe and has the meaning:

    We will not be coerced into submission

    neither will we! It really is all about the freedom!

    Thanks again, François, vive le Libre!

  15. Mandriva también le dice No a Microsoft : said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    [] Mandriva deja saber sus intenciones en respecto a los últimos esfuerzos de Microsoft en la comunidad Linux. Microsoft ha entrado en acuerdos con varias distribuciones de Linux bajo una supuesta protección de posible violación de patentes que Microsoft posee. Ubuntu ya les dijo que no, y esta vez es Mandriva: []

  16. Boycott Novell » Mandriva Not Interested in Paying Protection Money said,

    June 19, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    [] Matthew Aslett notes that, following Mark Shuttleworths posting that ruled out any Microsoft negotiations based on unspecified patent infringement claims, we also have word from another distribution oft-speculated as being "next" on Microsofts list: Mandriva. So its 3-3 with Novell, Xandros and Linspire on one side and Red Hat, Ubuntu and Mandriva on the other (as noted here the deals with Samsung, Fuji Xerox and LG Electronics can be considered differently). []

  17. SinnerP said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    Good job!

    Thank you for clarifying Mandrivas position :)

    Salut,
    SinnerP

  18. John said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Thanks guys!

  19. Larry Cafiero said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Merci, Francois!

    I apologize for being one of the journalists reporting that you might be next, and I am glad that Mandriva will not play victim to the mafia-style tactics with which Microsoft threatens the GNU/Linux environment.

    To echo Julien: Vive le Libre!

  20. ig said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Bravo. Although I am not a Mandriva user I applaud your position. Those who sign pacts with Microsoft are essentially committing suicide we will not use their products or services under any circumstances. Hopefully this will help the Linux market to consolidate a bit, which I think is needed.

  21. Mike said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    First of all: innocent unless proven guilty has nothing to do with democracy. Second: FUD propagators? protection money? For a CEO you dont sound so professional. Perhaps you should have awaited an invitation from Microsoft to discuss an agreement instead of sounding like a regular Slashdot commenter? That way, you would know what you actually say no too. Perhaps youd even get to see the list of patents (not likely but perhaps you could have leveraged your position to make them tell you more).

  22. Teltaris said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Cest vrai! Vive le Libre!

  23. Mandriva says non « Larry the Open Source Guy said,

    June 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    [] Francois Bancilhon writes a short missive on the Mandriva blog that the French distro wont be going to Canossa (excellent reference, Francois; and for those of you who slept through World History class, it refers to the village in the Italian Apennines where the Holy Roman emperor Henry IV did penance to reverse his excommunication by Pope Gregory VII back in the 11th century) over Microsofts FUD regarding their nebulous patent claims. []

  24. Arvind t said,

    June 19, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    Proud of you guys

  25. Brian said,

    June 19, 2007 at 10:23 pm

    I always had faith that Mandriva and Ubuntu would say NON! to this unspecified patent claims FUD.

  26. Federico said,

    June 19, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Good news, maybe a new born for mandriva.

  27. zack! said,

    June 19, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    Great !
    Thanks a lot Mandriva.

  28. kenjiru said,

    June 19, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Thank you for you message to the world.

    Keep up the good job!

  29. Wayne Weaver said,

    June 19, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    CUDOS TO YOU!
    You are to be commended on your position! Isnt that just what this FUD amounts to; protection money?
    Keep up the good work, and KEEP THE FAITH!

  30. Eugéne said,

    June 19, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    Yes, way to go Mandriva! Im glad youve called Microsofts pathetic patent bluff publicly too.
    You are yet another fortress of freedom that the community needs!

  31. Papa Chango said,

    June 19, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    Julien, stop bitching
    English took priority because they want to maximize visibility with all the online sources.
    (For Petes sake, they couldnt get anything from Shuttleworth so online tech sites trolled his blog where they found a post asking him bluntly whether he was buying protection from the Microsoft mafia and if he was going to continue working with collaborators like Linspire with whom they are working on CNR.)

    I give Francois credit for des grosses couilles when he put it plainly about refusing to ..to pay protection money to anyone.
    Shuttleworth is very malleable and doesnt want to use harsh language.

    I think theprotection money is the perfect description of this extortion scheme.

    Bravo for calling it as you see it.

    Papa Chango

  32. Judland said,

    June 20, 2007 at 12:05 am

    Thank you very much, François, for taking the time to make a statement regarding this issue.

    Im very happy and proud to be part of the Mandriva community and a supporter. Its nice to see that Mandrivas management shares the same views as I do on this matter.

  33. Renato S. Yamane said,

    June 20, 2007 at 1:31 am

    We are free!
    Says no, thanks to Microsoft!

  34. Andrew Hilton said,

    June 20, 2007 at 1:32 am

    Well Done, i agree. I have no interest in this apart from a moral standpoint, and as a community, linux has a right to stand up for itself and is not wrong in its standoint. i do hope the ceo is reading this, maybe hell give me job ;-)

  35. Alberto Barrionuevo said,

    June 20, 2007 at 2:08 am

    Mandriva will benefit from this decision to remain free and preserve the FLOSS IT world from software patent appropriations/taxations by its current main enemy, Microsoft.

    The FLOSS community is not as weak in terms of economical influence as it could seem. A lot of technical decisions, as to select which Linux distribution, are taken by technical people from the open source community, not by higher level decision-makers that perhaps arent yet aware enough of the current (no) software patents situation in Europe.

    Mandriva has taken the right decision and indeed has done very right shouting it out publicly for public mocking of others.

    But dont care a bit, Mandriva, that no matter if you infringe silly software patents (everybody does), Microsoft wont be as stupid as to sue you in Europe, the main market for Mandriva and the riskiest courts where to lose its (ilegal) software patents.

    Europe should continue to being totally free of software patent extortions, and Mandriva has advanced one more step on this way.

    Merci, mes amis,
    Alberto Barrionuevo.
    FFII Vice President

  36. Jens, random Mandriva and FOSS user said,

    June 20, 2007 at 3:09 am

    Excuse-moi pour écrire en anglais :-)

    I am very glad to hear this and I really appreciate Mandriva coming forward with such a plain, direct statement.

    I think youre chosing the right way to do business. Your confidence from the community will grow at the expense of the other distroes that rather chose to go to Canossa.

  37. Ben Pendygraft said,

    June 20, 2007 at 4:00 am

    @julien:
    although I speak little world langauge, your message rings to me in a clear tone! WE MUST UNITE! WOOT!

  38. More Microsoft Patent Dealings at Jeremys Blog said,

    June 20, 2007 at 5:07 am

    [] We now have three Linux distributions wrapped up in this patent debate. It was speculated that Mandriva may be next. Based on the profile of the latest two companies, it seemed a logical guess if you had to make one. Its good to see that they have gone on the record saying that its not going to happen. Red Hat already rejected the idea and Mark made his feelings very clear in this post: []

  39. Clark said,

    June 20, 2007 at 5:22 am

    Thank you! I appreciate your commitment to F/OSS!

    Clark

  40. Techzi » Blog Archive » We will not go to Canossa - Novell, Xandros and Linspire (François Bancilhon/Mandriva Blog) said,

    June 20, 2007 at 6:02 am

    [] We will not go to Canossa  —  Novell, Xandros and Linspire have signed well publicized agreements with Microsoft.  —  Rumors on the Web have hinted that we might be next on the list.  So we would like to clarify our position.  —  At Mandriva, we believe working in heterogeneous environments is essential to our customers. Source:   Mandriva Blog Author:   François Bancilhon Link:   http://corp.mandriva.com/webteam/2007/06/19/we-will… Techmeme permalink []

  41. Mandriva und microsoft: Keinen Gang nach Canossa - Mindfactory AG Community Forum said,

    June 20, 2007 at 9:12 am

    [] Mandriva und microsoft: Keinen Gang nach Canossa Laut einem Blog-Eintrag von Francois Bancilhon wird es auch zwischen Mandriva und Microsoft kein Patentabkommen geben. "Wir glauben nur an das, was wir sehen, und bisher hat es absolut keine stichhaltigen Beweise von irgendeinem FUD Propagandisten gegeben dass Linux und Open Source Anwendungen im Konflikt mit irgendwelchen Patenten stehen" , so Bancilhon. Mandriva w�rde eh nicht viel von den aktuellen Softwarepatentbestrebungen halten. "Wir denken nicht, dass es notwendig ist, einen speziellen Schutz f�r unsere Arbeit von Microsoft zu bekommen oder Schutzgeld an irgendjemanden zu zahlen" so Bancilhon weiter. Mandriva ist auf jeden Fall f�r einen konstruktiven Austausch beider Betriebssysteme aber der Weg das zu bewerkstelligen ginge eher �ber offene Standards wie ODF, welches Mandriva stark unterst�tzt. Mandriva plane weiterhin innovative und faszinierende Produkte zu entwickeln und/oder zu vertreiben um sie im Sinne der Opensource Bewegung einer gr��t m�glichen Anzahl an Menschen zug�nglich zu machen. Quelle: Mandriva Blog � We will not go to Canossa cu Gargi __________________ The more you suffer the more it shows you really care! offspring []

  42. Doug Laidlaw said,

    June 20, 2007 at 9:44 am

    Bien dit! Mais

    Can Mandriva afford to defend an SCO-type claim? SCO had no case either, but they managed not to get struck out for want of prosecution, long after they demonstrated that they had no claim. Was Microsofts famous figure of 235 patents the same imaginary number as the one SCO used?

    Microsoft keeps to the idea that if it can kill the opposition, quality doesnt matter. It has said so publicly.

    I am a lawyer and my attitude is the same as Mandrivas. But I dont want to be sent broke, nor does Mandriva.

  43. tracyanne said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:16 am

    Thanks for that clarification François, you have confirmed my assessment of Mandrivas position.

    The problem with the agreements made between Novell and Microsoft, Linspire and Microsoft and Xandros and Microsoft is that in each case the agree is designed to protect and enhance Microsofts proprietary standards, and document formats, not promote genuine interoperability, or vendor neutrality.

  44. Alfred said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Pourquoi une annonce en anglais serait-elle douteuse? Le problème concerne principalement les pays anglophones. Donc il est normal décrire en anglais. Ceci dit, je suis surpris positivement par la position claire de Mandriva, que je pensais plutôt voir être les prochains à signer un contrat avec Microsoft.

  45. Anglophone said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:39 am

    To Julien: I apologize, but while I understand French, I cannot write it very well. Why does it bother you so much that the first announcement is in English? Its not my native language either, but the fact of the matter is, most users of the distribution understand English while only a minority can read French.

  46. Francois said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:46 am

    Yeah, Right Julien, huuttepuuttepuut, oui huuutteutuuttetuut, chateaux migraine, trottoir, tuuuttepuuuute huuuut, vivre Linux!

  47. Funky Penguin News » Blog Archive » CEO of Mandriva: We will not go to Canossa - No deal with Microsoft said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:47 am

    [] Link to CEO of Mandriva: We will not go to Canossa - No deal with Microsoft []

  48. wam said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:57 am

    Je suis tout à fait de lavis de François Bancilhon, lopérabilité cest bien, mais ça ne peut pas justifier un racket.

    Sinon, pour lannonce en français, et bien il faut te réveiller, Mandriva nest pas uniquement destinée aux français hein!!!

  49. moonfrog said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:57 am

    Thank You!
    Compatibility with a suicidal monopoly?
    Wheres the logic in that?

    No FUD for me thank you.

  50. Bader said,

    June 20, 2007 at 11:36 am

    Youre totally right not to pay protection money to anyone. As far as I know, the only one who ask someone to pay protection money is the mafia.
    Your support for free software and against software patents wont be forgot.

  51. Ubuntu-Chef will kein Patentabkommen mit Microsoft - Winhistory Forum said,

    June 20, 2007 at 11:52 am

    [] permalink Ich poste mal hier rein, da ich denke man sollte nicht wegen jedem Distributor, der so ein Abkommen ablehnt einen Thread aufmachen. Ein Link sagt mehr als tausend Worte, Mandriva wird auch kein Abkommen annehmen heise online - Mandriva: Kein "Canossa-Gang" nach Redmond Stellungnahme von Mandriva: Mandriva Blog � We will not go to Canossa __________________ []

  52. karls said,

    June 20, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    COOL mandriva!!!

  53. Ciaran O'Riordan said,

    June 20, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    we don’t believe it is necessary

    Does this mean you wont sign an MS patent deal?

    When Xandros signed their MS patent deal, I think their CEO also said he didnt believe it was necessary, it was just a reassurance, or it was just at their customers or Microsofts request, or whatever.

    So, if youre not going to sign an MS patent deal, can you put it in firmer words?

  54. Dividindo para conquistar « sixhat pirate parts said,

    June 20, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    [] Do outro lado da barricada, Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat e agora a Mandriva através do seu blogue, vem dizer que não concordam com esta espécie de protecção virtual sobre qualquer coisa pouco clara, e manifestam o seu descontentamento com o sistema de patentes em vigor. Para além do mais desafiam a Microsoft a expor quais as patentes que realmente estariam a violar antes de começar qualquer tipo de conversação. []

  55. ERM said,

    June 20, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    Thank you! I was hoping you guys, along with Debian and Redhat could hold on. You three the last of the big ones and I think it is symbolically important that you dont cave. Who cares about Xandros and Linspire? I never hear about them.

    But today on a podcast I heard (Im a little behind) of the Linux Link Tech Show, an OO.o developer was talking about how much he loves Mandriva

  56. Riccardo said,

    June 20, 2007 at 2:00 pm

    Im a happy Mandriva user im willing to go on buying the Mandriva Linux Powerpack every single year till there will be this Mandriva! :)

    Thanks and Good Job to Everyone of You.

  57. Mandriva tampoco pactará con Microsoft « Entre tuxes y pepinos said,

    June 20, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    [] De este modo Mandriva se pone de la postura mayoritaria de los seguidores de GNU/Linux, software libre y código abierto. En este enlace podéis leer el comunicado completo. []

  58. anode said,

    June 20, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    Bravo Mandriva!

  59. Franck said,

    June 20, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    Je suis utilisateur dUbuntu, mais je suis heureux de voir que Mandriva veut rester libre et souhaite travailler pour le bien de la communauté. Bravo pour cette volonté dindépendance, continuez comme ça, et longue vie à Mandriva. ;)

  60. iVLabs » Blog Archive » Red Hat y Mandriva no firmarán acuerdos con Microsoft said,

    June 20, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    [] corp.mandriva.com []

  61. Roberto said,

    June 20, 2007 at 5:41 pm

    Im not a Mandriva user, but I want to greet with everyone of you! Well done!

  62. Rufus Polson said,

    June 20, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    Well said M. Bancilhon. I never thought it likely that community-oriented Mandriva, who release all their tools under the GPL (unlike say Xandros), would knuckle under to Microsoft. But such decisions arent always easy; thanks for going on record so strongly and putting all our minds at rest. Im happy to be able to continue using Mandriva.

  63. Mandrake not paying protection money « Scotsman on a Horse said,

    June 20, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    [] Mandriva Blog » We will not go to Canossa So we don’t believe it is necessary for us to get protection from Microsoft to do our job or to pay protection money to anyone. Published in: []

  64. And then there were three « Komandeering Developers Everywhere said,

    June 20, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    [] Mandriva has just posted some official looking blog statement announcing their stance against a Microsoft deal of any sort, joining Ubuntu and Red Hat.  So the count seems to be 3 and 3 now?  What will be interesting is how distros step forward in the coming months.  Will Debian sign a deal next?  I keeeeed I keeeeed.  Will completely unaffected smaller distros make announcements, not out of solidarity, but to get some cheap press and new users? []

  65. Mandriva non si piega a Microsoft « Slack said,

    June 20, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    [] http://corp.mandriva.com/webteam/2007/06/19/we-will-not-go-to-canossa/  Posted by Slack Filed in []

  66. Martin said,

    June 20, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    Venceremos!

  67. scriptkido said,

    June 20, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    Way to go Mandrake! I wasnt sure what to do when Novell decided to whore with Microsoft, but I think Ill move to Mandrake now!

  68. arijit said,

    June 20, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    This is a welcome news from your side. Thanks to everybody at Mandriva.
    This proves Linux and Open-Source community still together and dont want to break down before micro$oft.
    Together we can, together we will make the world free from software patents and commercialization.

    A Mandriva fan from India.

  69. SubSónica said,

    June 20, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    Congratuations on your brave decission to stand against menacing monopolies. This is the way to go: All the Linux community and your users comunity stand with you.
    Thank you for doing the right thing.
    No I wonder wether along with other smaller distros you can make a resistance common front (viva la resistance!) against patent racketeering from Microsoft or any other potential patent trolls menacing Mandriva or any of the mates at the Free Software community.
    Migh be a good idea to make a joint statement alongside the EFF,FSF, the FF.II., pubpat, and smaller or regional distros around the world like LimuX, Linex, Guadalinex, PCLinuxOS, Mepis, Slackware. in order to stand against software patents and the patent mafias and to become stronger and more prepared against future corporate assaults: As the Linux project and the Free Software philosophy gains market share, and adoption, for sure the old proprietary software business model will try to attack the weakest members of the community, so we must prepare and stand united.
    Again, congratulations and all my best.
    SubSónica website on technology and freedoms

  70. Jacques said,

    June 20, 2007 at 8:05 pm

    Après les compromissions et les déclarations évasives des derniers mois, il est rafraichissant de lire enfin une position de principe ferme, énoncée clairement et sans ambigüité. Tôt ou tard, il faudra mettre un terme aux tactiques dintimidation de Microsoft, ne serait-ce que pour le principe. Peut-être que François Bancilhon vient de lancer le mouvement.

  71. Guillermo Rodriguez said,

    June 20, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    Ive been using and promoting Mandrake/Mandriva for desktop PC for some years now. i was mind-worry about mandriva becoming microsoft-paid, a blow to the hole Philosophy here. im VERY glad to read the news, as all here! ill be pushing Mandriva up as i can. My loved distro!! =)
    GO AHEAD FLY FREE!! WE WONT LET YOU DOWN!! =)

  72. Chiuchu said,

    June 20, 2007 at 9:06 pm

    Tain, je comprends pas

    Pourquoi faut il que, pour une news, une distro. et un François Bancilhon FRANCAIS, le message du blog soit en ANGLAIS.

    Je mattendais à un super message, compréhensible, clair, tourné vers lorginalité de cette distro. dans le fait quelle soit française. Et rien Même pas une trad. ou un double post français/anglais

    Je venais de ma ubuntu, me daisant que peut-être re-ferai - je un pas vers Mandriva en entendant parler du courage de la distro. de dire aux gens quelle ne suivra pas MS et en tentant de me convaincre que le fait que ce soit dit bien après (et pas avant) Canonical nest quun hasard Mais voyant la tête de ce post, jen doute un peu

    Je pense (voila le côté constructif de mon post) que tant que Mandriva nassumera pas plus son originalité, elle restera très marginale. Conquérez votre public avant de conquérir le public anglophone et mondial. Prenez contact avec les entrerpises de vous-même, prenez contact avec la grande distribution, avec le gouvernement, les institutions, les écoles dingé. Faites que le made in France de la distro. soit un atout plutôt quun défaut quil faut cacher

    Si cétait comme ca, le fait que Mandriva ne cède pas devant Microsoft irait de soi.

    Bon, jen reste là. Bonne soirée.

    PS : Excusez du ton brutal au début, jai repris mes esprits au cours de la rédaction.

    PS2 : François Bancilhon je taime !

  73. fan said,

    June 20, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Paris vaut bien une MS.

    Why dont you sign the shit, get the money, free indemnification for patents which are maybe not even there and hand the dirty Microsoft money over to the FFII to lobby for reforms of the patent system.

    I strongly believe patent reform is all about lobby resources available.

  74. hm said,

    June 20, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    >>So we think that, as in any democracy, people are innocent unless proven guilty

    Do you even know what democracy means ? It has nothing to do with judicial system.

  75. Mandriva Linux y Ubuntu no pactarán con Microsoft « Un poco de mucho said,

    June 20, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    [] Surgieron rumores que decían que Mandriva Linux podría llegar a un acuerdo con Microsoft por el tema de la violación de pantentes. Pero estos rumores son totalmente falsos ya que François Bancilhon, CEO de Mandriva, ha publicado una nota desmintiendo oficialmente los rumores sobre el supuesto pacto. (Nota traducida en Blogdrake) []

  76. zecrazytux said,

    June 21, 2007 at 10:26 am

    well, Mandriva wont be evil :)

    I think you are too pleasant with m$ we don’t believe it is necessary for us to get protection from Microsoft to do our job or to pay protection money to anyone.

    It would be a pitty m$ has no weapons against linux but money and partners.

  77. zecrazytux said,

    June 21, 2007 at 10:27 am

    well, Mandriva wont be evil :)

    I think you are too pleasant with m$ we don’t believe it is necessary for us to get protection from Microsoft to do our job or to pay protection money to anyone.

    just like if you feared them
    It would be a pitty m$ has no weapons against linux but money and partners.

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