Do Blog Friendships Survive Out of The Or-bubble?
November 1st 2006 08:34
In an earlier post, I had commented upon the calibre of writers on Orble and how I am just humbled and awestruck...I still am, more so, the more posts I read.
By the way, Orble should really post a Warning:
Read At Your Own Risk. We Will Not Be Held Responsible For Time Lost In The Real World.
For help with ignoring email notifications of new posts and comments...nah...you’re beyond help.
This post is motivated by the people I have ‘met’ and through reading posts and comments and opinions and likes and dislikes and Top 10 favourites and wishes and dreams and beliefs and stands on issues...feel I have come to ‘know’.
And it makes me wonder, where are all you people...or people like you... in the physical world?? What bushel do you all hide your magnificent lights under?
That’s not to say that fabulous people don’t exist and aren’t met in the real world. It’s just...face to face, in person....all those barriers that need to be broken down...tiring, you know?
‘Conversing’ with you all, makes me ponder what you’re like in person. My mind goes into overdrive, trying to envision and form the personality from the personal thoughts and opinions expressed.
To name and form just a few*....
Lilla extraordinarily warm, worldly and wise
KarenC brave, spirited and funky
Katyzzz marvelously eccentric, artistic and cryptic
John Doe intense, urbane and humane (and damn JD, your biker pic is hot!)
Luke a Top 10 entertainer
Nina pretty TV Babbl-ina, elegant, eloquent, excellent writer
Voices vivacious and vulnerable in a very strong way
KylieW feisty, bright and delightful
The Bitch Is Back fabulously caustic and droll
And what Top 10 list of this nature would be complete without Homer Joyce - The Poetic Postman...who wields his (s)word like a Weapon of Mass Seduction.
Of course I don’t really know any of you and there’s a sad possibility I never will. As groan worthy as this will sound...my life will be poorer for it.
This post was inspired by something Lilla and I ‘discussed’, about how here, we all write without inhibition, which is potentially dangerous...one tends to forget that one is really in a public place...well I’ve forgotten occasionally, shared a bit too much information. Thank God for the ‘modify’ button.
Like most people, in the physical world, I am initially reserved but I’m not short of an opinion (nor of height). I’m certainly not shy. Yet here on Orble, I hide behind a pseudonym and a Wallabies beanie mask.
I don’t see it as hiding so much as granting myself freedom from judgement. Wearing a mask to be free. Not as contradictory as it sounds.
We all get judged first by appearances and then we have to work at either upholding that first impression or changing it or expanding upon it, etc. We say we don't care but we do because WE know ourselves to be who we are...why can't everyone feel it/see it straight away?
We tend to judge one another too quickly based on first physical impressions, which are usually the intentional (or unintentional) masks we all wear in the physical world.
These masks protect us until such time we are comfortable ‘taking them off’ to express who we really are, at that moment in time.
These physical world masks cloak us.
Wearing a mask in a cyber world uncloaks us.
Most of choose to stay semi anonymous, we have pseudonyms and masks (or both!) and photos that express the essence of who we are.
And thus we are set free.
We can be as brazen and bold as we please. We write with abandon. We post with fierce opinion. We don’t have to censor ourselves and we don’t care if we’re left open to censure. We comment with wit and glee
As Lilla once commented, “...any writer reveals more about who they are by their comments than by anything else they do...”
I wonder what my comments say about me...? I don't want to know.
I’ve been told I look “aloof” and “unapproachable” and (my favourite) “up myself”.
I’m not. Sob...how could they?...These are my masks.
What you read is what you get so maybe I’m a bit of a twit and a little “up myself” and I speak in puns (punishing punctuation...sorry...) but I’m alright you know...hey, kids love me! (I have 5 of my own).
If you met me, not knowing you had already 'met' me, would you give me the time of day based on what you see? Or...if you met me, having already ‘met’ me, would you judge me as I tend to get judged?
Now, having said all that, there's no way this will happen! Now I'm worried my masks won't work...eeek...catch 22...
How many of you have physically met each other? Were you all what you expected? More? Less? Were you surprised or validated? Did you have any expectations? None? None at all?
Jon’s Halloween theme birthday party...the Sydneysiders who went...did you wear masks??
Are we really the people that we are here? Are our uncloaked Orble personas our true selves? Are we better at getting to know another via e-mail and blogs? Is this a better way to get to know one another?
What I’m really asking is this – the friendships that are forged via keyboard, do these carry over in to the physical world? Bloggers who have met each other in real life...do you have the same rapport verbally?
Do Orble blog friendships endure and exist outside of Orble?
*I hope you don't take offence at being named and being the subject of my deliberations. I think you're all WONDERFUL. This is not flattery in a blatant attempt at getting all you High Karma-s’ on my site! Please note your names are links. I genuinely adore/like/in some cases almost love your personalities.
By the way, Orble should really post a Warning:
Read At Your Own Risk. We Will Not Be Held Responsible For Time Lost In The Real World.
For help with ignoring email notifications of new posts and comments...nah...you’re beyond help.
This post is motivated by the people I have ‘met’ and through reading posts and comments and opinions and likes and dislikes and Top 10 favourites and wishes and dreams and beliefs and stands on issues...feel I have come to ‘know’.
And it makes me wonder, where are all you people...or people like you... in the physical world?? What bushel do you all hide your magnificent lights under?
That’s not to say that fabulous people don’t exist and aren’t met in the real world. It’s just...face to face, in person....all those barriers that need to be broken down...tiring, you know?
‘Conversing’ with you all, makes me ponder what you’re like in person. My mind goes into overdrive, trying to envision and form the personality from the personal thoughts and opinions expressed.
To name and form just a few*....
Lilla extraordinarily warm, worldly and wise
KarenC brave, spirited and funky
Katyzzz marvelously eccentric, artistic and cryptic
John Doe intense, urbane and humane (and damn JD, your biker pic is hot!)
Luke a Top 10 entertainer
Nina pretty TV Babbl-ina, elegant, eloquent, excellent writer
Voices vivacious and vulnerable in a very strong way
KylieW feisty, bright and delightful
The Bitch Is Back fabulously caustic and droll
And what Top 10 list of this nature would be complete without Homer Joyce - The Poetic Postman...who wields his (s)word like a Weapon of Mass Seduction.
Of course I don’t really know any of you and there’s a sad possibility I never will. As groan worthy as this will sound...my life will be poorer for it.
This post was inspired by something Lilla and I ‘discussed’, about how here, we all write without inhibition, which is potentially dangerous...one tends to forget that one is really in a public place...well I’ve forgotten occasionally, shared a bit too much information. Thank God for the ‘modify’ button.
Like most people, in the physical world, I am initially reserved but I’m not short of an opinion (nor of height). I’m certainly not shy. Yet here on Orble, I hide behind a pseudonym and a Wallabies beanie mask.
I don’t see it as hiding so much as granting myself freedom from judgement. Wearing a mask to be free. Not as contradictory as it sounds.
We all get judged first by appearances and then we have to work at either upholding that first impression or changing it or expanding upon it, etc. We say we don't care but we do because WE know ourselves to be who we are...why can't everyone feel it/see it straight away?
We tend to judge one another too quickly based on first physical impressions, which are usually the intentional (or unintentional) masks we all wear in the physical world.
These masks protect us until such time we are comfortable ‘taking them off’ to express who we really are, at that moment in time.
These physical world masks cloak us.
Wearing a mask in a cyber world uncloaks us.
Most of choose to stay semi anonymous, we have pseudonyms and masks (or both!) and photos that express the essence of who we are.
And thus we are set free.
We can be as brazen and bold as we please. We write with abandon. We post with fierce opinion. We don’t have to censor ourselves and we don’t care if we’re left open to censure. We comment with wit and glee
As Lilla once commented, “...any writer reveals more about who they are by their comments than by anything else they do...”
I wonder what my comments say about me...? I don't want to know.
I’ve been told I look “aloof” and “unapproachable” and (my favourite) “up myself”.
I’m not. Sob...how could they?...These are my masks.
What you read is what you get so maybe I’m a bit of a twit and a little “up myself” and I speak in puns (punishing punctuation...sorry...) but I’m alright you know...hey, kids love me! (I have 5 of my own).
If you met me, not knowing you had already 'met' me, would you give me the time of day based on what you see? Or...if you met me, having already ‘met’ me, would you judge me as I tend to get judged?
Now, having said all that, there's no way this will happen! Now I'm worried my masks won't work...eeek...catch 22...
How many of you have physically met each other? Were you all what you expected? More? Less? Were you surprised or validated? Did you have any expectations? None? None at all?
Jon’s Halloween theme birthday party...the Sydneysiders who went...did you wear masks??
Are we really the people that we are here? Are our uncloaked Orble personas our true selves? Are we better at getting to know another via e-mail and blogs? Is this a better way to get to know one another?
What I’m really asking is this – the friendships that are forged via keyboard, do these carry over in to the physical world? Bloggers who have met each other in real life...do you have the same rapport verbally?
Do Orble blog friendships endure and exist outside of Orble?
*I hope you don't take offence at being named and being the subject of my deliberations. I think you're all WONDERFUL. This is not flattery in a blatant attempt at getting all you High Karma-s’ on my site! Please note your names are links. I genuinely adore/like/in some cases almost love your personalities.
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Comment by Josh Z
I haven't met anyone from on here and I've only been posting a short while but everyone that I have "spoken" to seems fairly mentally stable and the kind of people that wouldn't be too bad to socialise with.
If it helps I think you're one classy dame. You don't come across as up yourself. You definetely have a sense of humour and you're confident. Not bad traits to have.
Now I am worrying about what people might think about what I write.........
Comment by DuskDevi
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I did write "...to name and form just a few"...
You are definitely one of those that should have been named....you're a wonderful paradox...a glitterati!
'Star Wars' and 'War and Peace' and classics of all genres.
I have read your comments all over the place...you're like a cultural attaché, bridging literary gaps.
Thank you for your lovely words JoshZ.
But you forgot one important trait...I'm a wannabe Twi'lek Jedi!
Thanks JZ.
DuskDevi
Comment by KylieW
Celebrity Obsession
I can't tell you how exciting it was to see my name in you list, as you would surely have made mine too.
I agree totally, and was only thinking yesterday that the quality of people on these sites is amazing. I'm not usually someone who will waste time playing on the internet and just casually surfing. Yet I can lose myself for hours reading, not just the wonderful posts, but the equally entertaining comments that go along with them.
I think that part of it does come from the freedom that being online and a little anonymous affords. While I'm certainly not a shy person, I do take a little bit to warm to those around me and get my bearings in a group. Most people are probably the same.
I would love to meet some of the great people on here in person. But I do wonder whether the dynamics would be different.
I would love to know about those who have met up and whether it changed the nature of that friendship and look forward to reading the comments to this post.
In the meantime, I'll continue to have a wonderful time immersing myself in this online community and enjoy meeting the amazingly talented people who make it up.
KylieW
Comment by DuskDevi
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I love reading your posts and your comments all over OrbleLand.
Thank you for your comment on this post...as bright and delightful as always. Succinct, articluate and honest too.
Here's to Orble...and all you wonderful Orblers...
DuskDevi
Comment by KylieW
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Comment by DuskDevi
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Comment by Cibbuano
20/20 Filmsight
Science News
Hunt Famous
Orble Post of the Day
Fat Cult
Techbreak
I think the idea of friendship is changing, thanks to the Internet and technology. I mean, kids are growing up with MySpace and blogs being the norm. It's totally reasonable to have good friends around the world -
- and while you may never meet them, I think it's valuable for getting a sense of what people are really like in different countries.
Comment by DuskDevi
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Yes, online communities and blogs, etc are the utensils for the melting pot.
Was that too cheesy??
5 kids...more chances of having a Wallaby in the family...seeing as I stand about as much chance as Paris Hilton does winning a Grammy...oh s**t, what if she does!!!
Thanks Cibby Man!
DuskDevi
Comment by Nina
The Geek Speak
TV Babble
I am yet to meet anyone from the online world, but I'm really not sure how it would go. I am not the same person online that I am offline - I am more vocal about my opinions on the internet than in real life. I think that I am also a much better written communicator than I am a verbal one. I'm not particularly quick on my feet and like to think that I am more insightful when given the opportunity to contemplate and modify what I have to say.
This is a lovely insightful post, DuskDevi. I just wish I knew more about football so I could come over your way more often!
Comment by DuskDevi
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Thank you for your eloquent (as always) explanation. I think this be an echo to be sure, to be sure of what we all may feel to a degree "...I am more insightful when given the opportunity to contemplate and modify what I have to say".
Thank you for your sharing your thoughts Nina...and please visit me as often as you wish, can and will. Every so often I'll wander away from the jock journal and ponder thoughts eternal.
Okay, that makes no sense at all but at least it rhymes!
DuskDevi
Comment by Lilla
Enviro Warrior
Dream Interpretations
An Extra Ordinary Life
Knowing nothing about Rugby sounded like a good time to enter.... actually I've been loitering for a while...love the non-rugby posts...I do read the others too...
Thank you, you honour me and all the other orblers... I feel (as in real life) we are only as interesting as each other and it is in our ability to continue to 'bounce' of each other that our inner-orble freidnships grow... Dusk Devi Your own words of wit grace us all, no doubts about it and I (for one) miss you when you are not around... many of you have become that to me...
I feel like I'm at the logies giving one of those long boring speeches..... so I'll wind it up...
The truth is, Homer keeps threatening to host a party for all the orblers and I think the idea is seductive and has merit. Perhaps... somewhere between all continents - like Malta at this great hotel there called the SunCrest at Msida, or Egypt at the Great pyramid *lol* ...neat idea... hold that thought.... Bring your spouses, kids, partners and neighbour. I love the idea, if I'm still alive, I'll be there... I'm getting on you know and my orble cheques will have to pay for it... and those who know me, will know I'm jj.
Comment by Lilla
Enviro Warrior
Dream Interpretations
An Extra Ordinary Life
Comment by The Voices in my Head
The Voices in my Head
First of all, I am extremely flattered to be a part of your list.
I happen to think that you are one of the best bloggers on this site. Your writing is wonderful and I do love to read your comments on Wordophilia. I scan them all to find your name. You definately have a way with words that is delightful.
As for the question at hand, I do not think that for the most part, most Orblers would get along. As you said, we do wear our masks here. There is a freedom in being able to express yourself, thoughts and feelings in a public format that a face to face reality check would hinder.
(btw, I will just say that the words you used to describe me have been used before by friends and family...sooooo do you want to call yourself my friend or should we get married and scandalize Orble?)
As always,
Voices~
Comment by KarenC
Genghis Gal
I have been absent for a few days indulging in some wheelchair rugby (apparently I was even briefly shown on the Coffs Harbour news! How's that for moving up in the world?!). Back in the real world now and decided to go online - I visited yours and Voices sites first up as I missed you both ...
I, like the others who have been mentioned, am truly flattered. I love the words you used to describe me. If I am those in real life as well as here I will be a very happy woman. Like KylieW I am not a shy person, but regardless, I still feel a little freer here than I do in "real life". Ah, but the possibility then becomes: Is this as real as our other lives?? (you know how I love the possibilities ...) Just because it's all conducted in cyberspace doesn't diminish the fact that this is still very much our real selves that we're putting out there.
As a new blogger and still finding my feet with my own voice, I'm really enjoying becoming familiar with the others on the site and "meeting" everyone and wondering what they're really like in "real" life. I've thought about what it would be like to meet some of you as well and whether that would be a disaster or a fantastic event. In fact, as much as it pains me, I think I disagree with Voices in a way ... if we get along online, then surely we'd get along in real life. In fact, wouldn't it be easier, as our real personas, our inner beings, have been laid bare for all to see.
When you and I meet, for example, if we find ourselves stuck for words I'm sure we could always use Cinematrix's post as an opener ... "So, DuskDevi, a fuchsia lightsaber, hey ..."
Comment by The Voices in my Head
The Voices in my Head
My feelings are that in the real world, we are slow to trust, friendships build over a course of time, we reveal ourselves slowly and then a powerful bond is formed.
In cyberspace, we reveal it all in a liberating sort of rebel yell, (I am a muzik nut..sorry). "Like me or not...this is who I am." No fears.
When that much information is revealed too quickly, as it tends to be in cyberspace, it creates an uncomfortable tension in reality. At least, this has been my pesonal experience.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to meet every one of my fave Orbleheads...I would give it a shot...either way, as DuskDevi indicated, my life would definitely be better for it.
(Is everyone as afraid to use the word definitely for fear of spelling it wrong now or is it just me?) *smile*
Voices~
PS DuskDevi...back to you. *wink*
Comment by DuskDevi
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My apologies for not replying sooner but I was away...indulging in love and the lushness of life...
Ahh The Orb-logies, but don't let the orchestra wind you out...here we have more than our 15 keystrokes of fame...and you, Lilla, are warm, profound, playful but never boring...and when I think of you, musk and sandalwood is what comes to sense...
I tend to think in smells.
I agree...we all do bounce off each other in such a way that produces a high level of endorphins...like kids on a massive jumping castle...without tantrums and selfishness. Just a lot of pleasure and happy thoughts.
Thank you for your lovely reply and words. I feel so damned humbled by what I'm reading....a bit overwhelmed and -blush, blush, faint- a bit chuffed too.
Ooh...it would be great if we had the option to leave a 10sec voice message on our posts and comments. Just for those rare times when we feel our Orble voices can't quite convey the depth of thankfulness and appreciation we truly feel...perhaps the timbres and tones of our verbal voices can assist in conveying the humble gratitude better...on 'paper' it can come across as sychophantic and maybe a bit much when all I want to say is Thank You....but with the weight of soul recognition behind it.
Forgive me if I'm not making sense Lilla. Today I am writing without pause..nor cause...for thought.
Ohhhhh... Malta sounds good.
I wonder...if Homer were to 'organise' a get-together...would he turn up?
Thank you Lovely Lilla...I will 'speak' with you again soon.
DuskDevi
Comment by DuskDevi
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The Gamma Type...all is revealed at
(insert: shameless plug)
www.gammabag.com.au
Go straight to About Gamma
This is just a philosophy I've tried to live by, most of my life Lilla. I may have slipped once or twice...oh okay...often...but that's the beauty of being a Gamma... there's no falling off a pedestal or failing an expectation...just awareness that One is Unique...Just Like Everyone Else.
Therefore one forgives ones 'failures' but one always learns and doesn't just strive to be better but DOES better.
O Lord. Rereading what I've written...sounds bloody pretentious!!
On first look GammaBag looks to be about fashion...but it's more than that...it's a train of thought leading to a chain reaction.
Why do I write like this?? What's worse...I talk like this!!
DuskDevi
Comment by DuskDevi
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Let's get married.
DuskDevi
Comment by DuskDevi
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Let me just try to explain how I'm feeling now;
If there was a Humble Olympics (The Humblympiad??), I'd be a triple Gold Medal winner...no hang on...that would be the Olympics for the Most Humble Person...sooo not me...okay let's try again...
I feel as if I've been complimented by one of my icons.
Oh yes...I have been.
About that face to face reality check...would we all still judge each other on what we see (body language, masks, clothing, etc) knowing what we know about each other?
It does worry me that human nurture has made us wary.
So as much as I don't want to agree, I think you may be right in that most Orblers will not get on in real life...at least at first face value.
I think that a fair amount of disbelief will do the rounds of the psyche...sometimes we do not look as we are...which is why supermodels can be chess grandmasters, class dunces can be presidents, Woody Allen can be a sex symbol, actors can be role models (a real oxymoron pun if there ever was one)... why a postman can send us on a literary odyssey...why The Butterfly and The Cheshire Cat are one of a kind...
Where am I going with this?
Forgive me Voices, as I 'said' to Lilla, I'm writing without pause for thought.
BUT I want to believe that by getting to know each other here, we've run the gauntlet without encountering any dragons.
The dragons now are just dragonflies.
If we were to all meet in person, I think we'd all be able to handle the full force of each others true personality.
No need for buffers...it's all icing on the cake now.
Just read 'When Will I'? Need to visit you and comment on how absolute in truth this is.
You Voices are one Heaven of a Woman.
DuskDevi
Comment by The Voices in my Head
The Voices in my Head
YAYYYYYYYYY....*bouncing and hurling myself against the sides of the bouncy thingee*, I do love a good scandal. Now, here is the difficult part, shall you break it to Homer or shall I that he is losing two of his groupies?
*smile*
Voices~
Comment by DuskDevi
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Comment by DuskDevi
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Oh wow.
If I had been watching the Coffs Harbour news, would I have known it was you?
Yes, I would have.
And I would have looked very closely at your whistle...to check for diamantes...
"Just because it's all conducted in cyberspace doesn't diminish the fact that this is still very much our real selves that we're putting out there"
Absolutely. So I know this to be true...the few words I use to describe the effect of you...what you convey of your self through your words...these words are just a shadow of what you are.
I think we all feel 'freer' here because we have time to be 'heard' and time to 'listen'. We also take time to think about another's opinion and how we really feel about it so instead of getting defensive we see both sides or instead of just nodding we proffer our reasons for agreement...and cripes, I gotta get off the coffee...
"if we get along online, then surely we'd get along in real life. In fact, wouldn't it be easier, as our real personas, our inner beings, have been laid bare for all to see."
Exactly how I feel.
But I also agree with Voices...just by the sheer dint of being human, we would all be very wary with each other...trying to put words to faces...forgetting that we already know what we are really like...judging the mannerisms we use to deflect close inspection, the clothes we wear to subliminally express or reflect our personalities, etc...forgetting that we don't have to go through this process of assimilation to gain knowledge of the person before us.
We already know.
We know the spirit beneath the reserve.
And perhaps that would be what eventually frees us. The help of our Spirits....
Gin, red wine and tequila come to mind...now that would be very enlightening...!
Always a pleasure my Genghis Swan Warrior.
DuskDevi
Comment by DuskDevi
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Lilla and KarenC...for individual reasons, you both have no reason to come as often as you do to visit me at my site...especially not to (read) the primary posts this blog is all about...
And yet you do.
Do you two understand how truly generous and wonderful this is?
Ahh...you be warrior women extraordinaire...
DuskDevi
BTW I decided long ago, I am never going to hold back on expressing how I feel about another human.
If I feel the need to tell someone how extraordinary I feel and believe them to be, then it shall be said.
Sometimes this as taken as gushing...but it's just my personal Fountain of Truth.
Comment by KarenC
Genghis Gal
Diamantes on my whistle ... now there's something I hadn't thought of before. We're not allowed to wear jewellery so most of my bling comes off when I referee, making me feel a little plain and a lot less jingly. But diamantes ... if you ever come along to a Murderball game you will definitely know me as I will have implemented the diamante fashion initiative by the time the next Sydney game comes around (Nov next year, believe it or not, until they play in Sydney again).
I love reading your posts, yes, even those on the Wallabies, and so thank you for having such wonderful posts to read and so many interesting thoughts to ponder.
And after reading more from Voices and yourself on the possible strangeness of meeting cyber friends, I can see where you're coming from. However, I would still go there.
I have a friend who met his wife on a blog he'd set up years ago called "My Sad and Pathetic Life" which was absolutely hysterical (unfortunately it doesn't exist anymore). They started writing to each other, she came over from Holland to meet him and they're now happily married and living in England.
Comment by DuskDevi
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Next November...tell me when and where and I'll be there.
DuskDevi
Comment by JoshZ
A Literati
A Simple Christian
Thanks for all you said, it's always a nice thing to be appreciated.
At the moment I am reading though a new author, Ben Elton. As I'd expect, he's bloody hilarious. As I didn't expect, his characters are actual people and his use of language is perfect.
On a less personal note (in this case meaning I am talking about someone other than me), I like what and how you write. It's great fun flicking through your comments on everything. And no I am not just writing this because I don't want my ass kicked by and angry twi'leck jedi.
Comment by DuskDevi
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I must confess...I do read your posts and I vote but other than the 'Star Wars' post, have not left comments anywhere else.
I really like the way you write..."with aplomb and skill"
Precise, fluent, not pretentious, intelligent, expressive, passionate but not slavish, your points are logical, your arguements are rational and they make me feel really dumb!!
I actually should have left this comment on your blog somewhere...I wonder if I'm allowed to cut and paste the same comment??????
That's bad isn't it?
But can I? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You get what I'm saying though don't you?
And dude, I'm the Twi'lek Jedi so I'm not writing this for any other reason than what it is...
Okay. Fine. Wannabe Twi'lek Jedi.
At first I thought you were an Australian in USA because you knew what "up myself" meant but if you were, you would have known that Ben Elton is Australian.
Well, he's English but he's also an Aus citizen (few years now).
So if you were Australian and being the literary oracle you are, you would have read Elton ages ago. He's quite famous here.
Which book are you reading?
So...ye a Scot then?
DuskDevi
Comment by JoshZ
A Literati
A Simple Christian
I didn't know Ben Elton was an australian citizen (like I am, I was born and raised in Sydney), and as for being a literary oracle.....I am still trying to reach perfection in that area but there are too many excellent books. I am reading The First Casualty. My mum said that both of his families fought in the war. On opposite sides. I am the same.
My mum's parents are irish and scotch irish. My dad's parents are german and polish. Makes ME an interesting creature. My instincts are to get drunk, fight (especially the english), steal cattle and then write poetry about it all with amazing precision and efficiency.
Comment by DuskDevi
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My what a mix...and the instincts...am in hysterics! Interesting creature indeed.
Aus born and bred...That explains the lingo familiarity.
I haven't read 'The First Casualty'. That came out last year yes?
Are you going to review it?
An Oracle never stops learning, which is why they know so much.
And now I bid thee farewell for it is late (my side of the world) and I must make haste...I hear my pillow calling.
Thanks JZ. Visit again. I'll visit & vote you. Might even leave a comment one day...
DuskDevi
Comment by K.L. Almeroth
Motherhood
Hi DuskDevi,
I'm eternally ashamed it's taken me so long to get here...
Off with the fairies is my usual excuse (and I'm sticking to it!)...
But I'm here now, and I get to see what you write about...
I must say, I'm impressed. But, then again, your comments are always so magical and lovely, on other people's sites, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised!
I am surprised by your rugby obsession! Did this come about from all your boys??
I used to love rugby myself....gone off it the last couple of years (sorry, please forgive me for saying that!).
Your Gamma and MOSTEST and pink sister,
K.L.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
I'm so happy to see you here...and I'm totally chuffed you are (were? sob...but of course I forgive you) a rugby fan.
I was born with rugby in my blood.
My father loved it, the countries I was brought up in are rugby mad countries, went to school in rugby mad Qld (so am also a Brissy sister), everywhere I went and lived...it was all about rugby...my husband is an ex player, current coach, my kids all play, I play...but... thing is, I truly get this game.
I don't just love it because I had no choice
I love it because I just do.
Love watching it, thinking it, playing it...
That so doesn't mean I'm some kinda butch brickhouse in heels. Hell no!
Not that there's anything wrong with being a butch brickhouse...apologies to all my butch brickhouse sisters....
Looking at me, one would think...ha...she couldn't tackle a fishing rod (!)...not with those pink and blue coloured nails and teal tipped hair and fuschia dresses...
That's the good thing about us GPM Sisters - we can be Feminist Romance* Writers and girlie jocks (KarenC is one too).
*Link here to K.L.'s post
Thank you for visiting me gorgeous K.L.
Am about to post MOSTEST...
DuskDevi
Comment by JoshZ
A Literati
A Simple Christian
Words is important. - Terry Pratchett.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
"Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." Rudyard Kipling
Comment by JoshZ
A Literati
A Simple Christian
V for Vendetta (the movie)
Comment by K.L. Almeroth
Motherhood
Hi DuskDevi,
I am chuffed you are a Brissie sister, too!!
We're gonna have a looong sisterhood going on here, soon!
Yes, you seem so opulently feminine to me, that's why the rugby threw me for a second...
But I should know, better than anyone, how a feminine appearance/attitude/being is mistaken and how false images are placed on you because of it.
I mean, I studied archaeology, with all my tones of pink, and was the butt of all Legally Blonde jokes (by the way, it's a common talking point amongst my friends that this book and movie was stolen from my actual life! Substitue law for archaeology, though...oh, and there was no Luke Wilson in my life, unfortunately!)....
But I aced my classes and was always top of the class and the first to dig in the dirt! I love dirt, by the way...
But because of the pink, and that I'm female, it was expected I'd be stupid. When I'm not (not all of the time, anyway).
Here I am, big-noting myself on your site again...just like my McDreamy comment...
Maybe unconsciously I'm trying to impress you, my Gamma, pink, MOSTEST, Brissie, water-mermaid sister??
By the way, love the turquoise tips...teal would have to be my second most favourite colour.
Gotta go check out your new post,
K.L.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
Very quick and short...will reply in depth later...don't know where time went today...tempus f**ken fugit like crazy...is it just me feeling this? Button stuck on FF??
Can sooo see you as an Archaeologist...it's a very romantic profession you know...you have to a have a deep romantic sensibility to seek history amongst the ruins of our past.
And I'm sure women all over the world will agree that we've all had to dig through the dirt to find the treasure!!!
Men-tally speaking.
K.L. you write with such veiled and witty humility that you cannot possibly be less than top of the class...and you know I think you're McDreamy!
Will 'speak' soon mah sistah...
DuskDevi
Comment by Homer Joyce
This post is very thought-provoking.
I love your conversational tone and style (and not just on this post). It’s very easy to read, and it’s not hard to imagine you speaking in real life the same way you write …
E.g., ‘For help with ignoring email notifications of new posts and comments...nah...you’re beyond help.’
You make a valid point about how people judge others by appearances first. We perceive things or objects in the world (people included) through our senses, and our eyes play a very dominant role. One of the things I most like about the virtual world is that it offers me the opportunity to know a person’s interior without the distraction of exterior flesh, or form, or idiosyncratic movement and speech, through that person’s thoughts translated into words on a page.
I haven’t met anyone from Orble, but I have met people from other sites. It’s all hit and miss, lucky dip, mixed bag of lollies, good and bad, just like in the real world. It’s all about chemistry, and it depends on whether or not a person is seeking physical chemistry, mental chemistry or both. Friend, soul-mate, lover? All three? Two of one, but leave the other? And then it depends on whether or not both parties are seeking the same thing. Just like in real life again.
You have asked quite a few questions. I’ll only answer them in relation to myself.
You ask, ‘where are all you people?’
I’m in hiding, and have been for years. I’m still trying to come to terms with why I destroyed my own life, and the potential I had by marrying the person I did. And why it is that I have hardly had one single moment of pure joy or peace of mind for almost three years (not that I had much before that). And how long this type of suffering will last, or is meant to last, and how productive I can be regardless (as in, do I have the strength of will to ignore it and yet live with it knowing that I cannot completely ignore it?).
You ask, ‘what am I like in person?’
If you want to know what I was like in the real world before I lost all joy in living, Theory Monsters is a very accurate portrayal of the person I was.
If you want to know what I’m like now in real life. I’m people intolerant.
If cyberspace did not exist, I would have no other communication with human beings other than those in the retail and service trades, librarians, bus, tram and train drivers, or people who speak to me in the street. My phone line is used for dial up purposes and I don’t have a mobile phone. When I work as a postie, I wear ear plugs to block out the commercial radio which I detest. I speak to work colleagues and bosses when I have to. But courteously greet them and bid them farewell each day. It is rare to speak to anyone while delivering the mail, unless they have registered mail. And I also speak to Post Office retailers when dropping registered mail off to be collected.
My spirituality is hard-core traditional Latin Catholicism (about the most unpopular spirituality in the world today, which doesn’t bother me). I know exactly what I believe in regard to matters of faith. I am not in the least interested in convincing other people to believe the dogmas I believe, and I am not remotely interested in listening to other people trying to convince me of their beliefs. I try to avoid overt theological and philosophical discussions at all costs. If I feel myself being drawn into such discussions, I try to cease immediately, but old habits die hard. When my grandmother was asked about Catholicism, she always answered, ‘I live my religion.’
I have an aversion to time wasting or inactivity. I would rather work all day, every day for the rest of my life, and never have another holiday, apart from the odd night and half a day off now and then. I detest days off. I would like to sleep less. My main aim in life is to spend the minimal amount of time in a wage-earning job, and have enough money to enable me to finish writing the works I want to write, or as I like to put it, have enough money to never think about the bloody stuff again. If my wife dies, or the Church grants an annulment of the marriage, I will remarry. If she doesn’t, I’ll remain single.
As to how people perceive me in the real world. I would say without hesitation that the common consensus among people I know, and have known (and that includes family, relations, friends, acquaintances and work/sporting colleagues – with the exception of my ex-girlfriend) is: They despise me, and consider me a complete loser. I rarely ever hear from anyone I have known in life.
And so I write.
As to how I perceive you by your words, comments, and what you reveal about yourself? A woman of wit, intelligence and charm (there is more than a hint or glimpse of your beauty behind the Wallabies snot-rag but I don’t want to go there). A woman who is, in the main, content with herself, her husband, her children and her friends, and her life, but always striving to improve.
Lilla’s comment is very appropriate: “...any writer reveals more about who they are by their comments than by anything else they do...”
Homer …
Comment by K.L. Almeroth
Motherhood
DuskDevi,
I'm eagerly awaiting your MOSTEST post....or am I blind, and just can't see it, amongst all the rugby posts??
Once again, your comments just lighten my heart, and make me feel all warm and fuzzy and good about myself (all McDreamy)...
You're the best, Mermaid-Girl.
K.L.
Comment by K.L. Almeroth
Motherhood
H.J. (If I may DuskDevi),
I love all these glimpses of your soul I get from your comments!
K.L.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
This was written just is. My apologies if it doesn't make sense.
Homer...
Wow. I don't know where to start.
I don't even want to comment...your answers are so raw...
If we were sitting physically facing each other
(and when talking like this, I do see all of us facing each other...because we are all looking at a monitor...)...I would perhaps be just as lost for words as I am now.
Unfortunately I have a need to quell suffering but I am very aware that without suffering there is no awareness and no growth.
Growth? No, that's not the word I want...expansion? Expansion of inner self?
I'm getting too highbrow. I'm really..I don't know...
unable to transfer my thoughts to keyboard.
I say 'unfortunately' because the need is sometimes against the grain of my want. I don't want to feel it sometimes, this need to absorb another's suffering, it's draining, but I need to.
Aarrgh. I'm not deleting anything, just typing what comes to mind but nothing I write conveys what I really want to say. I am getting very frustrated. I don't want to come across as all highbrow nor Doris Day perky like.
I'll leave it for now.
You know what? Whatever.
I like the sound of you. I like you.
Don't underestimate my ability to recreate the tangible human from the intangible humanity.
I can see You. I Like You.
I do think you push people away because somehow you feel tainted. That the lack of joy you feel will travel like a virus spoor and infect others.
To me this sounds rather selfless. As in not selfish not without self...you have that, so much of that.
Thank you for all you say about me and what's behind my snot-rag!!!
Content? Hmm...I know what you mean and I take it with the grace it's given in but...I have always felt that 'content' is akin to complacency.
Yes, you have said "...always striving to improve.." so thank you for picking up on that.
I told you before, elsewhere, that the people I do have in my life are gifts...I feel most undeserved at times because I can get overwhelmed by the force of my feelings.
I am not a possesive person, I have never felt jealousy so by force of feelings I mean, not a day goes by that I do not think or say "My God. Thank you."
I talk about DDH the way I do because....well, although I've been married before, have loved and liked and lusted before...he is the first man I am in love with.
I know I am in love because my emotional judgement has never been clouded by false connections.
This is just how I was made. Not saying this is how it should be.
No...I don't put DDh on a pedestal. That's not what I do.
My children, my friends...oases in a vast desert. Occasionally the children, now that some of them are officially adults, can be oases without water...but...they're a part of what makes me.
Where have I gone with this?...
I am at peace.
I have had my share of suffering and sufferance, I have shared my vulnerabilities and have been exploited because of them. I do not consider myself unusual in any way.
I have not become more closed and aloof because I've been hurt. If anything, I am now more open and candid...albeit with shields firmly in place.
I do however, consider myself very very fortunate for the winding river that is my life.
Sharp bends, gentle meandering, rough rapids, tranquil drift, fast currents, torpid streams, shallow ends, deep beginnings...it all flows...upstream.
What I am now is a person who cannot feel anything other than optimism at the wonder of life.
Oh man...this is just so cheesy. Parmesan cheese cheesy.
I am not in denial. I don't actively seek the dark but am fully aware of its existance. I don't judge it but I do judge myself if I fall prey to it. I don't want to defeat it, an aware soul needs to be have a balance of light and dark...not an equal balance...but the balance changes according to circumstance or reaction.
Not all pain and suffering is negative.
Not all happy feelings are positive.
I know the difference. Now.
I made a vow to myself Homer. Will not share it here for it is far too private and will defeat its purpose...but I live by this vow.
I will never ever lose sight of the beauty of humanity. Nor the cruelty.
Another promise I made to self was to never hold back in telling someone what I positively feel about them.
Yes...am candid with what I negatively feel but give more thoought to the phrasing and the timing!
Sometimes it is not worth putting money where the mouth is.
You are a magnificent man. Truly one of a kind human.
I wish I could ease your suffering but this is not your point. I don't feel sorry for you. You say you are people intolerant but what you are is people sensitive. You pick up vibrations you don't want to pick up on.
If you are considered a certain way by your 'friends', I feel it's because you have said exactly what has vibrated in your mind.
I feel spent and I may have revealed too much on this private stage. May also have made it all about me but I don't know what to say to you.
I am not as eloquent as I think.
You are not as repulsive as you would like me (us...yourself...) to believe.
You...Homer...treasure...
Dusk
Comment by Homer Joyce
Firstly, thanks for two things. For taking the time to respond at length, and for going out on a limb in a public domain.
I’ll write a response in the same manner that you wrote yours … without editing … just as it comes out on the page …
I’ll respond to the phrases that effected me most on first read …
I am a raw being.
I sometimes don’t want a lot of words. Just the right ones. So feel free to be lost for the ones I don’t need anyway … the ones you write in the manner you wrote this comment are the ones I like …
I like what you wrote about ‘without suffering there is no awareness or growth’ … what does the man (or woman) know who has not suffered? Really? What do they ‘really’ know about life? They know nothing about providence, or circumstances. They know nothing about compassion. We shall see how valuable their gold Amexes are on their deathbeds … And their former health …
Please, whatever you do, don’t feel you have to in any way whatsoever absorb any of my suffering … I only wrote to you in raw honesty because I knew you would understand it …
A double whatever back atcha … Good call. Try (is that six points in union?) or 8?
I don’t totally agree with your remarks about pushing people away or infecting others …
If you feel infected. Don’t. Forget about it. The majority of my writing is not tainted with these thoughts … but they are part of me, and there is a purgative positive in expressing them, and I’ve done that. I’m fine at the moment … I’ll go back to writing about nice things (or cynical, sarcastic, black-humour things … like I always do …
I certainly don’t push people away. Unless my raw, honest thoughts have a power like two palms pressed firmly into someone’s chest or breast … why do I keep writing about breasts? … Oh that’s right. I write about the things that are on my mind … I wish they were on the outside of my mind, as in my forehead.
moving on …
I get your point about complacency … contentment does engender it … (I’m noting that one down … for a future safeguard …Beware of false confidence …
This line of yours should be bottled and preserved: ‘ I know I am in love because my emotional judgement has never been clouded by false connections.’
As should this one: ‘I do however, consider myself very very fortunate for the winding river that is my life. Sharp bends, gentle meandering, rough rapids, tranquil drift, fast currents, torpid streams, shallow ends, deep beginnings...it all flows...upstream.’
Please don’t mention Parmesan cheese again. I don’t like desiccated vomit.
I don’t actively seek the dark. It actively seeks me. I do want to defeat it (but not yet … I’m like St Augustine in his adulterous days … “Lord, give me chastity, but not just yet.”
Another bottler of a phrase: ‘I will never lose sight of the beauty of humanity. Nor the cruelty.’
So much I could say about that phrase. So many references I could use. But they are all Catholic … and mostly in Latin.
I would never put my money where my mouth is. It would interfere with my beer swilling.
Thank you for your kind words. I especially loved ‘you are not people intolerant but what you are is people sensitive.’ and ‘treasure’ is such an endearing term …
Homer …
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
Comment by Homer Joyce
I fully comprehended what you meant. You were referring to being lost for the right words ... not 'no words at all.' ...
If a girlfriend of mine was truly lost for words I would ring a doctor ...
Homer ...
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
No. No no.
You do not taint me at all.
You do not taint nor infect anyone.
You do not taint full stop
I meant that I feel you may not want to get too close to anyone in the physical world because you may feel you have nothing to give them.
Your idea of what it is that they want from you.
And...'infect'...wrong word
I feel you would never want others to feel your pain nor the pain you feel.
You don't want to hurt people just because they want something from you that you may feel you cannot give.
I like absorbing. I don't feel bad for it. I feel better (not in a masochistic way).
I feel better for providing a plank for the pain to walk on across a chasm.
Does this make sense?
I absorb because this is what I was given this ability for.
If I can't use my powers for good, then ya might as well wipe the kitchen bench with me...!
This is like the Story of MO. I understand why DmD and MLM are 2 halves of a heart in transit.
What the hell does that mean???
Seriously. Sometimes I feel like I'm a Medium for Bulls**t!!!
Raw honest thoughts have power Homer.
The power to push away the weak who want to inherit the earth without merit
Thank you.
Dusk
ps. 'treasure' wrote itself.
pp. at that point in the saga, P**m***n cheese was appropriate
ppps. money shouldn't always be put where ones mouth is...very dirty stuff...so many people, so many unwashed hands...better to just buy beer with it...
pppps. Try = 5pts Nice Try = 7.5pts
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
My apologies for neglecting to reply earlier but as you can see I was responding to Homer's candid and raw answer to my question.
As you said "..glimpses of his soul..."
MOSTEST is at MOST stage...had to rewrite it because it was getting a bit too heavy.
This whole Woman hating Woman thing really gets my goat...and the rest of the barn.
So no, you are not blind... I'm just slack! In my defense, have had a lot of deadlines to meet, kids to yell at, etc, etc and time...unless you keep a watch on it (tee hee)...can get away from you.
I blame Orble. It is so easy to relegate everything to the backheap whilst one whittles away time reading and commenting. Like now...so I'll pretend I'm in Russia... Moscow...can't stay...
Speak with you soon. Will post MOSTEST as soon as possible. We need to spread the word mah GPMBsister...
Dusk
ps.hugs for the gorgeous little bubbly fruit of yours.
Comment by Homer Joyce
In the physical world I really only want to get close to one person. I’m a one-on-oner … or one-in-oner (when I get the chance, or can afford it …) …
In the virtual world I can give my full attention to one person when I am writing. That suits me. It also suits me in the real world (but is difficult to achieve) …
It’s not that I feel I have nothing to offer that prevents me from obtaining intimacy… (Last time I checked I had something to offer) …
But seriously, I know what I have to offer. My ex-girlfriend often says to me, ask yourself one question: ‘What’s in it for me?’ … Not something I’ve ever considered much, but it makes sense, and I think about it a bit more now … I’m a bit over being paid wages of grief ...
As to my desire to be close to someone, if you knew how much I craved it … Circumstances prevent it at the moment, and have done so for a few years … apart from the odd foray … when I’ve been financial … I hope I don’t earn too much money out of writing. I will only fund the brothel industry.
Let me use the ocean analogously to explain … (not my brothel fetish … the whole notion of intimacy …
I know what I have to offer, but oceans don’t fit into thimbles … I’m not pouring myself out just to see it all wasted …
And neither am I letting a company come along with an enormous hose and siphon all my water to use for their own commercial gains (never to be seen again … or never to show any gratitude to the ocean … and pollute it with their waste ...
What you have written makes perfect sense to me … I’ve lived as a human sponge for most of my life. I’m over it … (its much more suited to motherhood) … I’m not sure I should dwell on the image of using you to wipe the kitchen bench … I think I’m thinking of it in a different way to how you intended …
It’s interesting that you would compare this to MO. It certainly has parallels. MO is suffering a little at the moment due to time differences (due mainly to the fact that I can’t get online at the right time … but that will change …
When you ask, ‘What the hell does that mean???’ I usually respond with … If you don’t know, what chance have I got? It is quite liberating though to write without editing … even if you look back on it and go: What?
I liked your closing lines … A lot of people mistake compassion for weakness … and don’t realise how much strength is in weakness …
Homer …
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
No. Weak.. .I find weak people to be those without compassion. Strong only in denial.
Strength fortified or found in vulnerability...now there's a thing to be in awe of.
Just a quickie (uh-hmm) Homer...was on my way to get something and felt the pull of my computer...
I am not right then. I'm not wrong but I'm not right. About what I said.
About you not wanting to get close to someone and feeling you have naught to offer.
BUT I didn't mean that you don't have anything to offer.
From where I stand/sit/lie (on the kitchen bench apparently...) you're a veritable mega department store of goods. And services.
Have been a sponge since childhood. Helps me understand in my own little way, the delicate human psyche...and road rage...phew, so much anger given license to drive themselves crazy....terrible.
Wanted to say hello MO yesterday...still cannot...truly is a sign..leave perfection alone.
Your ocean thimbology...very thuitable...you thrive on plunging the depths of the unknown.
Must go...must walk past the kitchen bench...must stop.
Be well Homer Treasure...
Dusk
Comment by Homer Joyce
I love a lot of your Devisms …
Like ‘strong only in denial’.
My dad had many sayings. One was, ‘It’s not often I’m right but I’m never wrong.’
Nothing like a good kitchen bench or table … especially if its within arm’s distance of the fridge … Ah, the erotica of food …
I have altered MO to allow Orblists to post comments … (must be a glitch in the Orble machine) …
Homer …
Comment by K.L. Almeroth
Motherhood
To the lovely Dusk,
I eagerly await your post...no pressure from me...whatsoever...
I understand your deadlines...and appreciate them (especially the yelling at kids bit...can't wait till I have a whole house of teenagers I can yell at! Sounds devine).
Yes, Orble is taking over my life, too...love to read and comment myself. About to go spend some leisurely time while my little girl (love your comment about my little fruit, too!) has an afternoon nap.
Will visit again soon!
Your Gamma Sister,
K.L.
Comment by Justin
Cinematrix
Anyway, I got a mention from KarenC's post of where you two met so I'm chuffed.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
"fluttering of butterflies"....on the merit of that image and usage to describe extremes alone, you're in my Top 10.
Damn...who am I going to give the flick to?
I can't.... love them all, even more then before.
Top 11 then...
And Justin, like I said to JZ, "to name and form but a few"
Thanks for dropping by Justin.
DuskDevi
Comment by Andrea
Diet and Health
V8 Supercar Pitstop
Wow! I don't know where to start (or finish for that matter).
I guess I'd first like to thank you for pointing me in the direction of this amazing post. not just the post itself (although that did, in itself, provoke many thoughts rattling around my tired and frustrated brain) but also the multitude and quality of many of the comments left by your readers.
Like Nina, I too am much better at communicating on paper than in 'real life'. The backspace and delete keys were designed for people just like me (and for people who can't type, of course). Contrary to what other people seem to be saying about themselves, I am a rather shy person and hate large groups of people, preferring a more intimate one-on-one (or two) conversation.
Orble blogging has given me the opportunity, not only to write about something I like, but also to 'meet' like-minded people and communicate in such a way that I feel comfortable with. I think I am myself in a lot of the comments I leave ... I'm being that inner person, the one who doesn't get to come out very often and usually only sees the light of day after a few glasses of wine. When your tongue is loosened and your inhibitions have lowered just a little (before that time when the wine gets the better of you and makes you sing American Pie or Piano Man at the top of your voice at three o'clock in the morning).
I'd like to meet, in person, a number of the Orblers I communicate online with. Yourself and K.L. probably being top of my list.
Will I be disappointed?
I don't know.
Will you be disappointed?
I hope not but, again, I don't know.
All I can say is, if we do ever get the chance, it could be one hell of a lot of fun.
Stay true, my friend.
A.H.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
All I can say is that if this is the essential you, if your words convery just a glimmer of who you are...I already adore the being in the human that is you.
That threat of disappointment is always there...but it's only based on expectations of self. Am I the person that my comments portray? Can I be the person that my comments portray?
I've had a doubt or 2, despite my declaring there is no room for doubt...I asked my physical world friends to read my posts and my comments and tell me honestly if this is who 'I' am. They say "yes, absolutely", "totally you"...and then I put the gun away...!!
Alcohol...the great social lubricant...yes, it certainly does loosen the tie, let out the corset...and make one channel Don and Billy!
I've pondered the benefits of blindfolds (noooo...not in the boudoir...well, yes but not what I'm referring to here)...if we were all to meet...take away the the choice of having to confront our physical masks and selves and first hear the voices.
At first all our voices will be tentative but if our eyes cannot evaluate, eventually we'll loosen up and just let our voices speak.
We already know what we think and say, now we'll just see those words in sound.
...and I swear I haven't touched anything alcoholic. Haven't even had a fizzy drink!
"All I can say is, if we do ever get the chance, it could be one hell of a lot of fun."
Here's to bucketloads of MOSTEST fun!
Dusk
Comment by Jessicca
Health 2 Know
Visit Malaysia 2007
Learning Something Everyday
Daily History
Well, I believe friends who met in cybre world, moreover, Orble world would still become great friends. I do have friends I met online and we still have a lot of fun meeting up in real person when we got the chance.
Sometimes, it is easier to talk to a person whithout seeing him/her straight at the eye. It can be dangerous too. But I believe in some way, when you talk through the cybre space you talk from your heart, unless the person has bad intentions from the very beginning.
Happy holidays Dusk. I am sure those who cherished Homer would definitely miss him.
Jessicca
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
The way you write...you just put things right back in to perspective.
It's all simple really.
Happy Holidays to you too lovely Jessicca
Dusk
ps. thank you for letting me get to know you. You're lovely Jessicca.
Comment by Optomistic Opportunism
Opto-mystic Opportunism
Japanese Jazz Funk
Please excuse last night's drunken-sod-lost-in-hermitude behaviour.
Room for improvement, I know. I think I lost a karma point for this comment (now 100% modified).
Pondering within sobriety,
Opto
Comment by DuskDevi
Rucks and Rolls
Rugby World Cup 2007
Now I'm intrigued.
I hadn't read the unmodified/make you mortified comment.
What did you write?
Whatever it was, I take it wasn't friendly...
Friendly fire?
It's okay, I'm a Woman, I can take it.
I have the Power of Delete if I can't.
Be well OptoMystic.
DuskDevi
Comment by David my David
Could you please put up a post about Net Stalking? ***
David ...
I was so reluctant to write to you about this matter ... but I think it's one of those things that has all the markings of an infectuous disease .. ***
Comment by RV
rv
I'm back in the Orble world!
I really have a lot of catch up reading to do.
Anyway, why don't we (Orblers) meet? Worldwide might be a little out of the picture, but maybe, Orblers of the same country can meet together?
Hahaha...I don't think there is any Orbler in my place, in this beautiful by nature island. But if there is any chance that I could meet up with other Orblers, I would love to have that once in a lifetime chance. A chance to unmask my self and be with people who are unmasked like me!