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Horns remain in Top 25, keep streaks stay alive

For Texas, owner of a two-game losing streak, it’s good to be 22. And No. 23.

A 28-21 loss to Oklahoma threatened the Longhorns very long streaks in the national polls.

But the Longhorns (4-2) were No. 22 in the USA Today coaches poll and No. 23 in the Associated Press media poll.

Texas extended its nation-leading appearance streak to 143 weeks in the coaches poll. It’s up 115 weeks in the media poll, which also is the nation’s longest for those rankings.

Oklahoma moved to sixth in the media poll and fifth in the coaches rankings.

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By cuttycoxmen

October 8, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Where's my comment?

By cuttycoxmen

October 8, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

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Your next Aggies

By Drew Myers

October 8, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Maybe when your players are booked into jail this week they can ask some of the other inmates to join the team!! Then you could copy us and use them on special teams....or all your teams for that matter!!!!


GIM'EM AGS!!!!!!!

By RexRacer

October 8, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Missed opportunities galore and again some rank play-calling by Mr. Davis. With a little motivation and discipline, this team should still be undefeated. You can have all the talent in the world but without player discipline (both on and off the field)and effective coaching the result can only be mediocrity.

By Longhorn 81

October 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Oh by the way, Vondrell McGee and Hunter Lawrence(kicker) each had 2 tackles against OU. No telling how many tackles they would have made if they had split Killebrew's playing time!

By Longhorn 81

October 8, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me why Killebrew plays so much? He had 1 tackle against OU. He should be a reserve with VERY limited playing time. Also, he is on the special teams and I don't think he has ever made a tackle in that capacity.

By okhorn

October 8, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

As a Longhorn in sooner land, I want an explanation why we continue to play underachievers, especially in arguably the biggest game of our season...I understand that Mack wants to keep the tone positive and all, but come on! Mack owes the fans more than "it's all on me...." "Players win games, it's coaches that lose them" and other trite "cliches." That is not necessarily the case all the time, by the way. So when does the AD apply pressure about assistants? If Mack won't, someone needs to. Loyalty is one thing, but stubbornness is another. Not sure who makes the final calls on who plays and who rides the pine, but I presume Mack does. So why won't he finally look at GD's and other coaches' decision making and see the fundamental flaws. I was glad to see the increase in TE play (Finley was amazing....it's about time.) But why don't they finally pull the plug on players that won't improve? The guys have no incentive to improve if they keep their jobs. We're not here to build self-esteem, but a championship team with players that produce. This is Division I football...there is more discipline and understanding of that concept in high school ball here in OK (and TX). You start to wonder if the assistants we have are unable to coach at a championship level...Charles has problems, but if I recall, we've had fumbling problems for quite a while (Selvin Young)...is Ken Rucker capable of coaching that out of them...O-line...why is it that other premiere schools with "young talent" can protect their QBs? Do we just have to expect that every two years we'll have a decent line? WRs that can't hang on to the ball? Defense that can't sack or stop the run against ranked teams...Give the QB coach a raise for keeping Colt alive, but spank the rest of them. The coaches are as much underachievers as the players are this year. Then there is the UT rap sheet? Mack...you are losing control of this team. I don't think the season is lost, but the cracks are certainly there and are growing. We showed some fire in Dallas...that's a plus, but the problems are more than the progress. Be a leader, Mack, not a friend. However, I still wear my colors proudly here in schoonerville, I still hook'em, I'm not one of those idiot "FIRE MACK," "FIRE DAVIS"(though GD is less and less defensible every week)horn-posers. But the NC is old news...don't be a one-hit wonder, Mack! All of us just want to see our Horns be the best...don't you?

By ron

October 8, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

I can't understand why running back coaches at UT don't look to the pro's and Tiki Barber for the proper way to carry a football. He was known as a fumbler until he started carring the ball more in his armpit. This should prove that good runners don't have to carry the ball like Vince did.

By Joseph

October 8, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

I bleed orange and I am and will always be a proud Longhorn, even if we end up with a 6-6 season.

Anybody can see that this team is getting better every wk. I really like that young talents have been seeing the field already (Chiles, McGee, Chykie Brown, Curtis Brown, etc.) Mack just have to make sure he doesn't let Chiles transfer, he's the next VY. Colt is a great QB if he has more time to throw (like any QB). The OL is coming along so our O will improve.

Jamaal Charles...eh, he's old news and is replaceable. Let McGee practice with the 1st team and McGee can fully replace Charles in about a month.

By Suzanne

October 8, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

OU fans - get off this board and go home - we don't care what you think, or even that you exis.
UT fans - how about celebrating the return of Brian Orakpo and the great play of Jermichael Finley and Chris Ogbonnaya. Those guys were great on Saturday. Jermichael really stepped up.
OU will not win out, so as far as I am concerned the Big 12 S is still up for grabs!

Go Horns!!!!

By Brad

October 8, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this

JOHN,

I liked your comments on Texas' heart and all, but I have to disagree on one point: J. Charles. The only thing consistent with Charles is he fumbles. He seems to have this way about him to fumble at key points. The fact that he said the reason for his tip (that went into sooner hands) was that he thought the pass was intended for another receiver, proves that he doesn't take seriously the impact HIS turn-overs have on the game. This, in my opinion, his due to the coaching. He has talent, but like a child, needs to be punished for his mistakes. Then and only then, will he reach his potential and not let the FAMILY down.

By Mr. ExTex

October 8, 2007 7:17 AM | Link to this

Sadly, when I think of Charles' performance this year this comes to mind: It seems when you give the ball to Charles, four things can happen, and four of them are bad. Run east, lose a yard with a one arm tackle, run west, gain a yard with a one arm tackle, throw to him and get a ball tipped to a db, or if he finds a hole he runs like the wind forgeting about securing the ball. Last year he was like smoke wafting through the defense and looked good. This year he trips on the ashes. He balked up, hesitates too much and looks much slower getting to the hole....or is it just me. We all know what happens when the ball is carried like a loaf of bread. I think he should be made to carry the ball with two arms each day to class all week like Royal used to require of those who fumbled often. Let him sit out a half. Charles has a lot of potential but he can do much better.

By John

October 8, 2007 3:26 AM | Link to this

As an OU fan who has attended the RRS for now 36 years consecutively, the game Saturday was a classic; two evenly matched, talented teams playing a game eventually won by the team who made a couple of big plays more than the other.

I read these comments and wonder if anyone remembers John Mackovic, 66-3, and at times, Sooner fans who, in their irrational critiques, attempt to correlate an admittedly sloppily played and poorly coached Colorado game to the John Blake disasters of the nineties like losing to aTm in Norman 51-0.

Frankly, I was surprised and relieved to win on Saturday. UT players and coaches showed me something I did not think was present; heart, guts, and toughness. Colt McCoy played a lot better Saturday in losing than he did in winning last year....not even close. Jamal Charles showed some toughness and reckless abandon to match his speed which I did not think was present. His fumble yesterday reminded me of Billy Sims losing a fumble struggling to beat Nebraska at Lincoln in '78 and costing OU a national championship. I don't remember any Sooners blasting him because all of us knew he was running with the same abandon on that play which carried him to many TDs and a Heisman Trophy.

I gained a lot more respect for UT, its players, coaches and fans on Saturday. Their coaches displayed an ability to scheme some offensive success to an obvious OU defensive liability at LB playing with a player who frankly, should not be on the field in a passing situation...a good player, but just too many knee injuries to be covering a sleek, fast TE. McCoy proved he can move the team and take a beating. Charles and McGee showed me some toughness. The UT defense played like it did in the Royal days.

For the first time in years, UT fans just shut up after the game, behaved, and frankly, caused me to treat them with the respect I have always wished they would of OU.

Get behind this team, encourage them, and it will work out....possibly winning every remaining game.

I remember being a UT fan, except for one game in the 60s and 70s. Saturday went a long way to doing that and it had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

I will anticipate another great game next year.

By Mike

October 7, 2007 11:50 PM | Link to this

I don't buy the line about how the problem is their youth and we can look forward to better days ahead with the current system. I read about how the O-line graduated 3 NFL'ers last year and these guys are just young. Well, last year with those NFL'ers -to-be we couldn't punch the ball in the endzone (Colt's 1st injury) from 1st and goal on the 1 several times, and had only one victory secured before the last possession in the last 6 games (OSU). Two inexcusable losses and 3 wins by 2, 4 and 2 points. Were we just youthful last year, too?

Look, it's the nature of the beast in college football to always have young teams - they graduate, some leave early. Dynasty programs figure out how to plug young guys into systems that work. I guess UT is not cut out to be a dynasty program. A good, solid program (though 5-4 last 9 games is average at best) is what UT has. I'm appreciative of what we have compared to what we had pre-Mack Brown. But the storyline of his entire career here with the exception of Vince Young's years is passionless play. And when the issue is not a lack of talent, but a lack of leadership or aggression, I read that as the coaching staff consistently having lower expectations of these kids then they are capable of.

By Mark

October 7, 2007 11:27 PM | Link to this

Its not that the Fans are spoiled about winning its that every year we have a top five class coming in and we expect to do something with it, oh but remember we won't see that class until their Jr. or Sr Yr. Texas need to break that habit get the guys that want to play on the field.

By Brad

October 7, 2007 11:13 PM | Link to this


For the person who kept saying to people on this blog: "YOU NEVER PLAYED OR COACHED FOOTBALL, SO YOU ARE ALL MORONS AND SHOULD NOT COMPLAIN...." Shut the hell up.

Do ppl have to be f*cking film directors to say that a movie sucked? Do ppl have to be chefs to say that a dish tastes like a a**?? Stop using your high school experience as a player or coach to imply that your opinion is more valuable than ours. You sound just as ridiculous as some of the ppl here.

By Felix

October 7, 2007 10:15 PM | Link to this

I do not know any coaches that I would rather have than the coaching staff at Texas. I love them all for the fine job that they are doing at UT. We will win games but it is hard to win them all.

By jthorns

October 7, 2007 10:14 PM | Link to this

I wish MB and GD had balls as big as Les Miles. Five for five on fourth down conversions, not afraid to use two QB's at any given moment, fake field goals, and not afraid to keep pounding the ball on the ground. The thing that's really frustrating to me is the fact that Chiles' redshirt has spontaneously combusted on the sidelines. I know UT had to burn it but at least make use of the fire.

By Burton

October 7, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this

Comments are interesting. These are much more constructive than those posted last week. Last week was the same old thing "Fire Greg Davis", blah, blah, blah.......We all need to remember that Mack Brown and Greg Davis have won at least 9 games every season while at Texas. Also, none of us are more qualified than they to lead this team on the football field.

There are any number of issues and problems which face the suggestions we are trying to make concerning the Longhorns. For example, there must be some reason for not playing John Chiles or certainly Greg and Mack would play him.

For myself I will support the Longhorns and Mack and his coaching staff. They do a much better job than I would. Here we are only guessing. Certainly that game with OU on Saturday was a disappointment to all of us. I feel though that the Longhorn players are much more disappointed than we are. It really hurts them. We need to support this team. They will certainly finish with pride and do quite well.

Hook'em Horns!

By Penthor

October 7, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

I can't believe all you naysayers. Games between teams of equal talent often turn on a single play. The Jamaal fumble was that play on Saturday. Let them score and they are playing with a lead and the momentum. It's an entirely different game. Alas, that wasn't to be. They didn't get blown out; it was a VERY close game. They are not a 2nd rate team. This time OU prevailed, congrats to them. But UT is not a shoddy team and they can still be dangerous for anyone on a given saturday. The sad part is that OU is young and will be better next year, and UT won't. Hook 'em.

By TX EX 04

October 7, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this

To those of you calling for Mack's job, save it. Mediocre team? Again save it. I hate to see us lose as must as anyone else on here, but come on how spoiled are we? Over the course of Mack's tenure he has produced the WINNINGEST PROGRAM IN D1 football. That's right, .778 win percentage going into this season. And he's not able to 'win the big one?'... Only USC has more national championships (with 2) over the same period. What else do you want? You don't go undefeated every year - you get fired? Give me a break, I'm embarassed to have such stupidity representing my team and University. Suck it up.

Hook 'em.

By Not So Impartial Observer

October 7, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

It's not clear why Texas is still ranked in the top 25. UT is ranked #33 in passing yards per game, #38 in third down conversions, #39 in points per game, #43 in total yards per game and #64 in running yards per game. The only thing UT is ranked high in is fourth in the nation for throwing interceptions.

Fortunately for UT the Big 12 is down this year, and they're not playing Missouri or Kansas. The only real competition left on the schedule is Texas Tech, so UT should end up with a 9 and 3 record this year unless they slip up against one of the other lesser teams.

By Not So Impartial Observer

October 7, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this

It's not clear why Texas is still ranked in the top 25. UT is ranked #33 in passing yards per game, #38 in third down conversions, #39 in points per game, #43 in total yards per game and #64 in running yards per game. The only thing UT is ranked high in is fourth in the nation for throwing interceptions.

Fortunately for UT the Big 12 is down this year, and they're not playing Missouri or Kansas. The only real competition left on the schedule is Texas Tech, so UT should end up with a 9 and 3 record this year unless they slip up against one of the other lesser teams.

By LeRoy

October 7, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this

When I played ball, our footballs were brown. Today they must be green with black stripes to keep from geting dropped.....

By David

October 7, 2007 8:38 PM | Link to this

Personally, I would be interested in how many of you all actually played football at the high school level or higher... How many of you have actually coached... Some obvious flaws...

We don't have a power fullback... or chose not to use one... We haven't utilized Chiles... either at Quarterback, Swingback, or Tailback - vary dangerous in the last 2 positions... defenses would be driven nuts trying to figure out what he might do... think about it! Start running a Real Jumbo Package...

The fumble... yes Charles should have covered up better... but he wouldn't have made the 5 or 6 yard line if he had... still better than a fumble... (game breaking runners carry the ball that way); However... if the OFL had not gotten an illegal procedure penalty on the 8 yard line... Charles would have needed only 8 yards and not 13. So Charles fumble, never would have happened if the OL had kept still.

The thing that impressed me the most was that the team learned a lot from their loss to KState. Great Teams make mistakes and learn from them... this is a young team and it is learning... I would not be surprised to see them not lose another game, if no major injuries occur. (Good Teams make more mistakes) Texas is a Good team that could be great by the end of the year... if they will keep learning and stay healthy.

Davis should be more aggressive... at least things showed promise in the first half... Stoop probably took those things away in the second... Great coaches make the right adjustments at halftime... So either get behind the team and encourage them to get better... or get a life... Whiners aren't needed here... WE'RE TEXAS!!! as Walter Cronkite so well states...

HOOK'em and COOK'em!
GO HORNS!

By TexasEx76Lifer

October 7, 2007 8:25 PM | Link to this

Hey Marlon, John Chiles and Sherrod Harris will get their chance because there will come a play when Colt won't be able to get up when a leaky line gets beat by a 300+lb rusher, or when a lineman plants him on a late hit that doesn't get called. I love Colt's thoughness, but something's going to break eventually. If John or Sherrod get hot, we'll have a new star and another Major on the bench.

By marlon chiles

October 7, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this

Everybody needs to join the "Free John Chiles Movement". Don't not believe what you hear about him not being able to pass, it's all B.S. As soon as Mack calls the same game for John that he calls for Colt, Texas will take off.

Everybody at Texas has the misconception that John is only a runner. From someone who has been to nearly everyone of his games since he hit 4th grade, believe me that's not true. Another misconception that I may as well clear up is that he's only played qb for 1 year in high school. WRONG! John has been playing quarterback on the varsity level since 9th grade. His first 2 years of high school he played qb (9th and 10th). He transferred to Mansfield Summit to "move up" to 5A football...after moving 2 weeks prior to school starting his coach at his new school "stuck" him at receiver to get him on the field until he could figure out how to use him. Their offense was mainly the option, but after practicing with him it was clear that his passing was his ticket. He had no passing personnel and since john caught 2 tds a game on average he left him there all year. This was the only year in high school that he played WR, but everybody always says that he played only one yr at QB- which is totally false. He's been a QB the whole time.

I love Texas to death-My whole family does-hence John being at Texas. But until Mack unleashes the dog that is John and utilizes all his talents, Texas will wade in mediocrity. John's passing is above-average and is well more than sufficient to get on the field, NOW!

I admit to being biased being his cousin, but in this case I don't have to be...He's easily the best QB! I expect everybody to read this and get pissed off. I understand that, you have no idea what you're missing...I also expect that when John starts "BALLIN'" in the near future that you apologize, I feel that's fair.

But until then "FREE JOHN CHILES, FREE JOHN CHILES, FREE JOHN CHILES..."


By thirdy8special

October 7, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this

Mike,
What was the ending score(7pt difference). Whether OU is starting at their 6yd line or 20yd line(which would you rather start from). Let's not hide what the real problem is: we need a true great QB. Good won't get it done. McCoy had a GOOD game, probably his greatest game(I'm glad for him) but he lacks in some areas(it's a fact), nothing personally against him. Dallas qb Drew Bledsoe had to go so Romo could play. We all knew Romo was better, just had to get Parcells to see it(finally).

By denny franch

October 7, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

-- cheap shots or not, the UT folks get fed up with the AGGIE trolls. The AGGIES are confused as to why they can't break the AP Top 25 (even with one less loss than UT)..Half the AGGIE Alums have lost Faith in their backwoods, BOZO-type Program. BEEN that way since 1955. ASK Mr. DK Royal..

By Julzee

October 7, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Mike, you're right about the what if's. No sense holding on to that. However, take a look at the replay of Murray's long run and see what happened to Kindle. He was the backside LB on that play and #73 grabbed him by the jersey and did not let him go til Murray was long gone. All right in front of the umpire! Take a look, I'm not fabricating in the least.

By Hornz85

October 7, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this

I keep hearing about the OU game as a great effort, play hard etc. Is that where UT FOOTBALL is NOW? Where as fans we can be happy with good efforts from them. I know it's only been 2 years removed from a national championship, but the teams record has steadily gone down hill. To the point of not even being a factor in the national title picture.
Guess we Texas fans just need to cherish the 05' season and not expect much more from a Mack Brown team.
It's just good to know that he is definitely earning his $300,000 raise and his 3+million salary to put out a mediocre team!

By mike

October 7, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this

what if jamal hadn't fumbled,what if jamal hadn't tipped that pass,what if colt hadn't throwed the ball into the turf on fourth down and what if the defense would have stepped up and put some pressure on the quarterback and maybe caused a fumble are gotten an interception would texas have won ? this coaching staff was just happy to keep it close.mac your trying to run the wrong kind of offense with the wrong quarterback and one running back.mac you better pull some old film from 04 & 05 and see what made this offense click just in case you have had a concussion.

By Mike

October 7, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

thirdy8special: Get your facts right - the Jamaal fumble/lost touchdown would have put UT ahead 21-14. Instead OU took the turnover down the field 90+ yards to go ahead 21-14. It is a whole different game when protecting a lead than coming from behind. Bob Stoops called it the play of the game for that it reason.

By Justin

October 7, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this

Does Texas have any pass plays where the reciever actually is open.(other than the chaotic scramble variety). I remember BYU having 3 or 4 dudes running open,can't we have one? I didn't think anyone had as many tipped balls as Chris Sims but Colt is making a bid for the career record. I love the Horns but they're hard to watch.

By Danno

October 7, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

The Horns are as good as they are going to get. They are a good team in a decent conference. I am glad to see the north division doing well.

Mack is doing fine with what he has. When they are on the field. He needs to start looking at character issues with his recruits. The program will be judged in the next three years by solving the off field problems. That is his biggest challenge and his biggest responsibility. Who cares how much he makes? What we should care about is the quality of his program. I would rather we be a .500 team with decent, hard working kids. The rest will sort itself out.

By thirdy8special

October 7, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

I don't mind saying this: Charles' fumble would only have let Texas tie OU - a tie w/OU is not good enough for me. VY cost us another NC and Ryan Perioullu(spelling) cost us a good QB. We got stuck w/McCoy. He's a good 2-A high school QB but he's not national championship caliber. McCoy can't do enough for us the way he's presently playing, he looks at receivers too long before throwing, can't run fast enough when offensive line breaks down.
McCoy needs to improve. He needs to do fake passes to make defenders miss/hold-up a step. I never see him do that-Joe Montana was great at that.
McCoy needs to GREATLY improve or Chiles needs to start sharing QB duties in games so he'll be ready for next year.

McCoy, quit stairing at one receiver-that's why there are so many tipped passes. Do fake passes to make defenders hold-up, please, please, please.

By Bill

October 7, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Is Mack Brown going to give some of his exorbitant salary back? Doubtful. Until Brown recruits another VY or fires Greg Davis, the Horns will never be in another national title hunt.

By Mike

October 7, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

UT has been a very pedestrian team for a full year now. Their ranking is purely for historical creds, not actual performance.

This team is 5-4 last 9 games. That stinks! And they very easily could have been 3-9 over the last 12 games. In fact, since the 2006 RRS, UT has played only two dominant games: Oklahoma State and Rice. Every other game, even against Baylor last year, UT has been in a dogfight. They did put Baylor and TCU away in the 2nd half, but they were much tougher games than they should have been.

By monty

October 7, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

FREE JOHN CHILDS! SOMETHING GOOD HAPPENS EVERY TIME HE GETS IN THE GAME,

By sammy j

October 7, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

Chiles, Chiles, Chiles! How hard is it to understand that anywhere you put him on the offensive side of the ball will be of concern to the defense! It does not matter if it is at QB, back, slot receiver, wide out-I knew yesterday that I would see Greg D. stating in the paper that he should have used Chiles more, sure enough he said it. During last year's Ohio State game thousands in the stands were screaming for us to run the ball, the next day-Greg says he should have ran the ball more! Against Kansas State-same thing-I know these men are outstanding human beings, but how come it takes them 24 hours to see what most of us are seeing during the game? I will stick with my Horns, but come on Mack enough about what you should have done-earn those big bucks!
Hook Em
sammy j

By don

October 7, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

I agree with Jess! I think the RB's coach or somebody has got to teach him how to hold on to the ball. Another thing Texas is lacking is a power back. Hopefully Charles will learn to hold on to the ball when we play the ramaining games. We still have Nebraska, Tech, and A&M. Hopefully we will get by Baylor, Ok St, and Iowa ST. Colt has also got to watch the play clock. Delay of game peanlties are killing us.

By TexasEx

October 7, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

This is not the worse Texas team of all time. Come on. And no, if a kid gets in trouble and gets kicked off the team, the team can no longer be held responsible for their behavior. They are responsible for their own behavior. They are adults. Stop acting like a spoil kid (I mean fan).

By Jess

October 7, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Jamaal Charles has to remember the no. 1 rule of an offensive player - protect the ball, especially in the red zone. When he got stripped, he held the ball with one arm while evading tacklers. The guy came from behind and hit his arm and out it went. He should always have both arms around the ball when he is running near the goal line. Just make it automatic, don't even think about it, just hold onto the ball with both arms. That would have been huge if Texas had scored on that drive.

By skagbar

October 7, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

I agree with comments that there was obvious improvement yesterday. With the talent we have, playing with that level of effort will win most games. However, if we want to be an elite team again and play for the NC, a few things have to change. That's my point.

By skagbar

October 7, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

The one area where Mack needs to change is playing the people who can produce and benching those who cannot. As far as I'm concerned, Limas (make sure I don't get hurt before I go to the NFL) Sweed is worthless. Bench his butt.
Give me Quan Cosby any day. The prima donna attitude appears to be rearing its ugly head again at UT....remember pre-VY? Weak leadership on this team. Mack needs to recruit some leaders at key positions in the coming years or I sense mediocrity is right around the corner.

By RJE

October 7, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

There were several improvements in this game---had they played this way all season, K-State would have been a win and the other games wouldn't have been nail biters. I actually thought Greg Davis mixed it up more than usual with a few counter plays. But where is the hunger and heart of the O-line and Jamaal? Big time programs with big time players have to be able to gain 1-2 yards up the gut. This team has not been able to do so with any regularity the past two seasons. Let's see if we can show some continuous improvement the rest of the season and win out. Before yesterday's game I would not have thought it possible.

By biged32

October 7, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

For the most part the defense played really good. Not getting to the passer and not holding thier hands up. and getting caught in a blitz costl us dearly. Charles two plays cost us a TD and the momentum. Then lettting a good pass slip from his hands into OU. If Charles can't protect the ball, he is of no use to us. Can you beilieve that we had 6 DOG pentaties, and had to call two early TO, because Greg could not get the plays in on time. 1st and 15 six times.
I still do not believe that Colt is ready, his passing has not been what is should be, throwing over and short. Throwing short cost us a TD. I missed OU score but I got UT Score. But I was right about them out-coaching us on both sides of the Ball.biged32

By Brad

October 7, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Mack and the players always say each game is "business."

Well, Fumbling Charles is definitely costing Texas more than what he is producing. What do you do when that happens in the business world? You get rid of that guy - it doesn't matter how hard that guy works. You reward the guy who can produce, NOT the guy that works the hardest. Why is that such a difficult concept for Mack to get??

By steve

October 7, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Well, noone can say Texas lost because of special teams-kicking and receiving. Look what Cosby did in the game. Don't hear anyone complaining about coverage in the secondary either-OU's coverage was no better except for another, you guessed it, tipped ball by Charles.(the others were Ulatoski, 2 by K State). Yea, go ahead and be a coach for a day, then let it go..because I saw Mcgee and Ogbonnaya in the game, brainiacs. None of what has happened this year is Colt's fault. He wouldn't say it, but it is all on the offensive line, people missing assignments, tipped balls and turnovers. Blind-side sacks anyone? Anyone at all, out there?

By skagbar

October 7, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Does anyone notice how one finger laid on Charles can bring him down like a house of cards. The guy is a wimp and we will never go to the next level with him at running back. Each time Vondrell has been in the game, he has been impressive. He is a tough north-south runner and has heart. Chiles has to touch the ball..either as a running back, receiver or quarterback. Why keep McCoy in the game when Chiles is there? To me that makes no sense whatsoever. I love the heart of Derry, but the young linebackers have to play now. Also, a shakeup is needed in the the secondary. Play the best players Mack. Obviously, we need a new offensive coordinator. Greg Davis sucks.

By Texas83

October 7, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

I think its time to restart the www.firegregdavis.com site. He is perhaps the worse OC in major college football. Absolutely no creativity or innovative plays. With the talent o on this team, that should not be an issue. Thanks to VY, he is still employed. Unfortunately, unless another school comes knocking on his door, he is here to stay (as long as MB is). Frankly, I do not not see ANY school stupid enough to hire him away from UT.

By don

October 7, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

I agree with sean. Charles cost Texas a touchdown and that was the difference in the game. Also, How about the turnovers against Kansas State? I think Greg Davis is also responsible for the last 2 losses. Stupid play calling. And Mccoy has got to make better decisions. 4 int's against Kansas State. Int's on Sat. Come on Texas! Get it together!!!!

By Rick

October 7, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

"...As I was watching the win of LSU over Florida a caption came up that LSU QB Ryan Perilloux had committed to TEXAS but changed his mind to go to LSU. Was he smart enough or just lucky to figure he would have a better chance to play for a national champion at LSU rather than at TEXAS..."

Ryan switched his commitment to LSU before VY and crew won the national championship. So, if he would have chose Texas (just like Adrian Peterson, who chose Oklahoma because he wanted to win a national championship), he would already have a national championship under his belt.

By sean

October 7, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

I guess jamaal still thinks he can't be benched for fumbles. I think its time for mack to make him realize that he's wrong. Charles's mistakes cost us the game.

By kris

October 7, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

To Helmuth:

Ryan Perriloux is a trouble maker. He's had on and off the field troubles the past couple of seasons. Him, Josh Rouse (formerly of FSU) were all suppose to come to Texas together saying they would win Texas a title. Do you know what year that was? 2005! GEE, we won that year. Josh Rouse no longer plays football and was kicked off FSU's team because of off the field issues. Michael Bennett decided to go to the Aggies and help his team stay mediocre meanwhile Perriloux who is playing well WILL get into more trouble. Did I mention when he SWITCHED his decision to go to LSU instead of Texas he was all of a sudden seen driving a brand new escalade (the guy pretty much lived in a shack in Louisiana in High School). They bought a trouble maker so good for LSU. All I know is with those players and the issues 2 of them have had over the past couple of years it makes me realize we might have had the same issues we've had this year during our 2005 season. We might have had to many off the field issues and helped our team stumble to 2 losses in the first 6 games.

By Tony Janca

October 7, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this


I honestly cannot fault the players for losing this well fought ball game. The fault is clearly on Mack Brown and Greg Davis. Davis's stupid plan to keep Chiles out of themost important game of the season was sheer stupidity. QUIT HOLDING JAMAL CHARLES up lie he is a great back. I agree he surley needs less carries. Did Greg Davis even consider having both Charles and Chiles in the backfield at the same time? How stupid to put Colt far out (out of the play) you have just limited the number of effective men you have on the field. Let colt take the snap and run the option with chiles and Charles, Charles will go down with the first hit he needs the wing to break his runs- Chiles could either run or pass to ho else Limas, By the was I don't think either Makc or Greg Davis knew where Limas was the last two plays its the coaching that's costing us this season- The only thing we lack is a strong running back and we will never develop our benched talent letting Charles carry the ball.

Bench Charles

By steve

October 7, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

TCU and CFU are not weak teams, in fact, I would give the nod to both teams over K State on any Saturday. It's all about execution and mistakes. All the talent in the world does not win games unless a team executes. Don't be so quick to throw this season into the dustbin of football mediocrity. Although not Young's team but a young team-still impressed.

By teddy2hats

October 7, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Unimpressed. I can only think you are not a Texas fan. I can remember when Just loosing 2 games was considered a winning season. It's easy to sit on your monday morning couch and criticize the coaches and the players. I can only thank the football gods that you are not the coach and are calling the plays. Have you ever even played football.

By jim fot

October 7, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

--The POLLS are not meaningless BOZO. The HORNS need work, but they have dramatically more talent far AND MORE CLASS than the whiners & WANNABEES (Aggies, etc.)

By Helmuth

October 7, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

As I was watching the win of LSU over Florida a caption came up that LSU QB Ryan Perilloux had committed to TEXAS but changed his mind to go to LSU. Was he smart enough or just lucky to figure he would have a better chance to play for a national champion at LSU rather than at TEXAS. I hope we do not lose more good players to other schools.

By steve koteras

October 7, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

Does the word (plural) Turnovers mean anything to anyone on these blogs or in the media? Look no further than that and the Longhorn Offensive Line, which was truly "offensive" to Colt, for the difference in the Red River Shootout. Otherwise, the "Land Grabbers" lose this game!

By Red Jordan

October 7, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

dropping the horns out would have been a temporary lunacy. obviously they have started to gel, finally. better late than never. i'm a guy who believes that predicting college football is about as foolhardy as predicting Texas weather but, i feel this in my old bones. i see 11-2 and another top 10 finish. this has been a crazy year by any standard but, it's half over and eventually, inevitably, the cream will rise to the top just as surely as time will tell, poopoo will smell and water will seek it's level. The boys played their hearts out yesterday and arn't nearly as good yet as they will be as the season wears on. Hook "em" horns.

By Bradysbeau

October 7, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

I live in Dallas and I have to tell you..it was a Sea of Orange and Red shirts on the trains. My grandkids were flashing the hook em horns to any Red shirt they saw. The team played better than last week and they acted with dignity. I was Proud to be from Texas and Proud of my Horns. We'll get em next year.

By unimpressed

October 7, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Just shows how meaningless polls are. Barely survived against weak teams in a soft schedule and then lost to two conference teams. Lost to OU with a less-experienced QB than McCoy- who has played better than McCoy ever did, since being annointed over the more athletic Snead. What a crock to keep them ranked, when they will lose at least two more games this season. Don't count on seeing Chiles. You see where Snead is now and he could have been here, helping prop us this "superstar" from the small town. Don't want to hurt McCoy's feelings; more important than the team.

By skeeter

October 7, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately I agree with Marva. I think Mack should start rotating other backs in with Charles. Oh, well maybe next year. Hook 'Em Horns!

By RC

October 7, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Colt did a good job - would still like to see more imagination in the offense, and if I were the coach, I would bench Jamal Charles - he has to hold on to the pigskin in the redzone - that is a MUST!!!! TWO HANDS on the BALL in the REDZONE!!!

By LeaAnn Johnson

October 7, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Texas played a good game.

By LeaAnn Johnson

October 7, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Texas may have lossed but played agood game.

By dman7005

October 7, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

maybe a little more john chiles, chykie brown at corner, ishie at safety and get scott derry out of there. muckelroy, kindle, and jared norton!

By j101972

October 7, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Dont Worry Longhorn fan's Texas will be back!!

By Marva

October 7, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

When does Jamaal return to the track team? The "sooner" the better!

By Alex Sierra

October 7, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Streaks in polls are kind of irrelevant when the team has just lost two in a row with the second loss coming against OU. That's like trying to find some sort of positive in a thus far dismal season. Maybe saying the Horns will get to the Holiday Bowl is a better way to find the positive? Hey, at least it's a trip to California!

By Skip

October 7, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

That is good news. We did give ou all they could handle for most of the game. They really thought that they were going to run over us, but we didn't allow that. I hope the guys can shake it off, and play out the rest of the season strong. I'm still worried about Colt though.

By Skip

October 7, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

That is good news. We did give ou all they could handle for most of the game. They really thought that they were going to run over us, but we didn't allow that. I hope the guys can shake it off, and play out the rest of the season strong. I'm still worried about Colt though.

By Fritz

October 7, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Well, there IS a saving grace after all.

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