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1/1/00 - about March 2000: continued RIVERS DEMOS

Rivers just kept going into 2000, cranking out another pile of demos, this time at his new house in L.A. Again, there were a good deal of more song attempts that didnt get far enough to warrant getting made into a demo, and for each of the ones that did make it to this level, there exists multiple versions of on tape, as they were refined.

  • When Situations Piss You Off
  • My Way Or The Highway
  • Misunderstood
  • Hey
  • When Situations Get You Down
  • She Says Its Not Enough
  • Fanny Bone
  • Hold On
  • I Found My Blood Today
  • Sweet Talk
  • Everyday The Lights
  • And You Say You Want To Cry
  • It's A Game
  • Pleased To Meet You
  • Coal Miner
  • Suddenly I Shot My Mouth
  • I Can't Live
  • Hide Into The Sun
  • You Test The Water
  • Mr. Docksider
  • "INST"
  • Tremendously Awful
  • Well It's A New Day
  • Gimmie Something
  • You're The Victim Of
  • Robot Man
  • Posessed, Obsessed
  • Let's Get Mellow
  • You Look So Free
  • I Screwed It All Up
  • Yer Fun To Play With
  • You Stupid Piece Of Shit (later became "the Ska Song")
    march 2000 : Special Goodness spring tour

    3/22/00 Denver : Bluebird Theatre --- show is videotaped
    3/23/00 Salt Lake City : Kilby Court --- show is videotaped

    if anyone knows of other recordings of any of these shows, tape or video, let me know...


    March 2000 : Special Goodness demos:

  • Life Goes By
  • In the Sun
  • Let's Go Down

    ...These were recorded by Pat, at home in Portland, just before heading to LA for the new weezer rehersal sessions....about 20 CD copies were made and distributed to people at record companies.


    April 2000 through June 2000: NEW Weezer rehersals, group demos recorded

    Various DA-88 recordings were made by the band in this period, for purposes of self-review. They were multitracked with some overdubs added (extra guitar and vocals)

    Session #1: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 5/3/00

  • The Ska Song
  • No More Disappointments
  • I Screwed It All Up
  • Torture (AKA "We Dont Have To Torture Ourselves Anymore")
  • My Best Friends Are Gone
  • Dope Nose
  • Stupid Bitch

    Session #2: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 5/3/00

  • You're Fun To Play With
  • My Brain (AKA "My Brain Is Working Overtime")
  • O Girl
  • Peace And Quiet

    Session #3: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 6/??/00

  • Ev'ry Night
  • Preacher's Son
  • Hash Pipe

    Session #4: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 7/??/00

  • Too Late To Try
  • Mad Kow
  • Modern Dukes
  • Slob
    Summer 2000: Tour Demos
    recorded live with a mobile unit during soundchecks and sometimes the shows themselves. These demos were compiled from hundreds of hours of recordings. Most of the post-warped tour US shows in summer/fall 2000 were fully recorded on the mobile 8 track unit, including the soundchecks, which is when the new somgs were demo'd.

    Tour Demos Set #1, 7/00:

  • Too Late To Try
  • Superstar
  • Slob
  • Dope Nose
  • Preacher's Son
  • Modern Dukes
  • No More Disappointments
  • Mad Kow
  • Hash Pipe
  • Yer Fun To Play With
  • My Brain Is Working Overtime
  • My Best Friends (Are Gone)
  • The Sister Song
  • O-Girl
  • Ev'ry Night
  • We Dont Have To Torture (Ourselves Anymore)

    Tour Demos Set #2,"Summer Demos"; 9/00:

  • Mad Kow
  • Too Late To Try
  • Peace And Quiet
  • Superstar
  • O-Girl
  • The Sister Song
  • Ev'ry Nite
  • On The Edge
  • Dope Nose
  • No More Disappointments
  • Modern Dukes
  • Preacher's Son
  • My Best freinds Are Gone
    Summer/Fall Tour 2000 bootlegs
    There are numerous bootlegs of these shows that have been traded extensively as tapes, Mini Disc, cd-r's and especially Mp3's. Most of the "new summer songs" that were played live seem to have been made widely available in mp3 format, with the exception of "On The Edge", which was apparently only performed in front of an audience at the Milwaukee show at Eagles in September. A portion of this performance was posted in my video clip from that show, which has since been converted into an incomplete mp3. But no full version has surfaced in trading circles. The following songs made it to the public as live mp3s.

    1. My Brain
    2. O-Girl
    3. Dope Nose
    4. Ev'ry Nite
    5. Hash Pipe
    6. Mad Kow
    7. Modern Dukes
    8. Preacher's Son
    9. Slob
    10. Superstar
    11. Too Late to Try
    12. Your Sister (AKA The Sister Song)
    13. Peace and Quiet
    additionally, three of those songs also made it out as "soundboard" recordings. I strongly doubt that they originate from the live 8-track private band recordings we were making, as in their raw form they require a "mixing down" session to become listenable. As all of the tapes have been kept private I can't see that having happened. However, often there is a tape deck or whatever hooked into a venues "in-house" soundboard system, which were often being utilized last year. (These days weezer carries all of its own sound gear stuff, at least in the USA). So a venue employee could have taped a show or soundcheck and then let some songs go. The three "soundboard quality" mp3s out there are:

  • Your Sister
  • Superstar
  • Slob

    Special note: on 11/17/01, the following 'summer songs 2000' were released via the (now defunct) fan site, www.summersongs2k.com. They were given to the owner of that site to release, instead of putting them directly on weezer.com. These are what is widely known as the 'edited versions', in that they were in some cases trimmed down and/or rearranged via digital editing, under the decisions of Rivers, who after over a year had finally determeined what was 'wrong' with the original 2000 structures, and wanted to release the definitive versions. The source material is the demo and live recordings dome in the summer of 2000, though what exact recordings they are culled from is unclear. As some of these new definitive versions were in fact shorter than versions that had been circulating amongst fans for over a year, there was a bit of an outcry, and amongst some a "rebellion", treating the new, official and 'correct' versions as aberrations.

    1. dope nose (177- summer 2000)
    2. mad kow (192 - summer 2000)
    3.modern dukes (190 - summer 2000)
    4.o-girl (170 - summer 2000)
    5.on the edge (196 - summer 2000)
    6.preacher's son (186 - summer 2000)
    7.too late to try (195 - summer 2000)
    8.superstar (197 - summer 2000)
    9.the sister song (198 - summer 2000)
    10.slob (188 - summer 2000)

    11.summer/fall 2000 show "intro music". attendees of certain shows in 2000 may recognize this 'Brady Bunch' sound collage that Pat and Karl assembled.

    12. Additionally a 'bonus track' was released with these mp3s, culled from a new videotape recording done backstage on tour in the fall of '01. "Been In The Storm", as originally seen in the Fall 2000 home videoclips released on the A-V page. This was considered a sort of "SS2k Album b-side", as it was originally seen back when the 'SS2K' songs were first circulating.

    Note that as of spring 2000 onward to the present, the bands home movies (shot by karl) are nearly ubiquitous, with nearly every show at least partially documented from either the stage or front of house, plus numerous soundchecks, rehearsals and recording sessions. The volume of footage is dauntingly large, yet there are curious and unfortunate gaps from time to time, when either karl, a video camera, or both were not available. The 2000 footage is spotty in places mostly because karl was still working on the stage as a backline and guitar tech, so sometimes an additional assistant was in place to film, and other times karl had to 'double duty' on camera and tech work, resulting in often sketchy tapes.
    6/16/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Santa Barbara, CA - The Yucatan
    01. My Name Is Jonas
    02. El Scorcho
    03. No One Else
    04. My Brain
    05. Preachers Son
    06. In The Garage
    07. O Girl
    08. Hash Pipe
    09. Tired Of Sex
    10. Say It Ain't So
    11. Undone (The Sweater Song)
    12. Buddy Holly
    13. Surf Wax America

    There is also a video bootleg of this show, that has not surfaced in trading circles. However, Mike Takahashi's fan bootleg video of "My Brain" was included on the weezer DVD, with audio enhanced via syncing up with the audio bootleg listed above.
    There is a band videotape of this show as well (previously forgotten/lost untill late 2004)
    6/17/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Bakersfield, CA - Jerry's Pizza
    (tracklist unknown)
    6/24/00 - Live show audience bootleg: San Diego, CA - Coors Ampitheatre (Warped Tour)
    01. My Name is Jonas
    02. El Scorcho
    03. No One Else
    04. Say It Ain't So
    05. In the Garage
    06. Buddy Holly
    07. Undone (The Sweater Song)
    08. Surf Wax America
    09. Tired of Sex

    7/04/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Pomona, CA - The Glass House
    01. Intro
    02. My Name is Jonas
    03. El Scorcho
    04. No One Else
    05. Dope Nose
    06. My Brain
    07. In the Garage
    08. Getchoo
    09. Say It Ain't So
    10. Hash Pipe
    11. Slob
    12. Tired of Sex
    13. Susanne
    14. Undone (The Sweater Song)
    15. Holiday
    16. Buddy Holly
    17. Surf Wax America + Outro

    7/23/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Seattle, WA - The Showbox
    01. Intro
    02. My Name Is Jonas
    03. El Scorcho
    04. No One Else
    05. You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
    06. Mad Kow
    07. Modern Dukes
    08. In The Garage
    09. Why Bother
    10. Say It Ain't So
    11. Too Late TO Try
    12. Slob
    13. Tired OF Sex
    14. Suzanne
    15. Undone (The Sweater Song)
    16. (Audience - not a song - pre encore)
    17. Holiday
    18. Buddy Holly
    19. Surf Wax America

    7/26/00 - Live show audience bootleg: San Jose, CA - The Cactus Club
    01. My Name is Jonas
    02. El Scorcho
    03. No One Else
    04. You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
    05. Mad Kow
    06. Superstar
    07. In the Garage
    08. Why Bother
    09. Say It Ain't So
    10. Too Late To Try
    11. Slob
    12. Tired of Sex
    13. Susanne
    14. Undone (The Sweater Song)
    15. Holiday
    16. Buddy Holly
    17. Surf Wax America

    7/28/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Sacremento, CA - The Crest Theatre
    01. My Name is Jonas
    02. El Scorcho
    03. No One Else
    04. You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
    05. Yore Sister
    06. In the Garage
    07. Why Bother
    08. Say It Ain't So
    09. Too Late To Try
    10. Slob
    11. Tired of Sex
    12. Susanne
    13. Undone (The Sweater Song)
    14. Holiday
    15. Buddy Holly
    16. Surf Wax America

    7/30/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Hollywood, CA - The Troubadour
    details unknown
    8/27/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Providence, RI - Lupo's
    details unknown
    8/31/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Toronto, ON - The Phoenix
    details unknown
    9/03/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Chicago, IL - The Metro
    details unknown
    9/09/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Tulsa, OK - Cains Ballroom
    details unknown
    "October Demos" Post-touring demos at Rivers's home studio.
    These demos are culled from numerous DA-88 8-Track master tapes, and represent the best version recorded at the time. Multiple alternate, unused and abandoned takes of each of the below songs exist, representing many days spent working full time in the little studio throughout much of October.

  • Hole In Time (10/1)
  • I Wish You Luck (10/7)
  • Teenage Victory song (10/7)
  • The Christmas Song (10/20)
  • No More Confusin' (AKA "Congratulations")(NOT the Special Goodness song!!!)(10/25)
  • That's The Way (AKA "Hammer Time"; "Sugar Booger")(10/25)
  • Ayleen (10/25)
  • New Joint (Previously Known As "Roommate")(10/25)
  • Big Rock Star (10/25)
  • I Wish You Luck (10/25)
  • Happiness Together (10/25)
  • Cryin' And Lonely (10/26)
  • No More Confusin' (10/27)
  • That's The Way (10/27)
  • Take It Slow (10/27)
  • Ayleen (10/27)
  • Cryin' And Lonely (10/27)
  • If You Want It (Later "Photograph") (10/27)
  • Inside A Smile (later "Smile") (10/27)
  • Crab (10/27)
  • No More Confusin' (10/28)
  • That's The Way (10/28)
  • New Joint (10/28)
  • Ayleen (10/28)
  • Cryin' And Lonely (10/28)
  • Homely (10/28)
  • Crab (10/28)
  • Inside A Smile (10/28)
  • If You Want It (10/28)
  • Dope Nose (10/28)
  • I Hear Bells (10/29)
  • That's The Way (10/29)
  • Dont Let Go (10/29)
  • If You Want It (10/29)
  • Crab (10/29)
  • Ev'rybody Go Away (10/30)
  • If You Want It (10/30)
  • Inside A Smile (10/30)
  • Crab (10/30)
  • That's The Way (10/30)
  • Ayleen (10/30)
  • Seeds Fall Down (10/30)
  • Homely (10/31)
  • No More Confusin' (10/31)
  • Homely (10/31)

    (keen-eyed observers may note the absence of "Move It On" from this list, the track originally recorded for the KROQ Kevin And Bean Chrisrtmas CD. This track was never fully completed, as the band scrambled on to complete the Christmas Song in time. These listing list only the songs that were finished and mixed down, so "Move It On", along with numerous other songs, remain on master tapes unfinished and unlisted until/unless they reach a "final" state.)


    "November Demos" Continued demos made at Rivers's home studio.
    These demos are culled from numerous DA-88 8-Track master tapes, and represent the best version recorded at the time. Multiple alternate, unused and abandoned takes of each of the below songs exist.

  • Christmas Celebration (11/10)(done for the Geffen Promo single-add'l work done at Cello Studios)
  • The Christmas Song (add'l work done at Cello Studios for the mix on the Geffen Promo single)
  • O Girlfriend (11/11)
  • Starlight (11/11)
  • Homely(11/11)
  • Castles In The Sand (11/12)
  • O Lisa (11/12)
  • New Joint (AKA "Hammer Time") (11/12)
  • Gimmie Some Love (later "Simple Pages") (11/13)
  • I Hear Bells (11/13)
  • Sister-Brother (11/20)
  • Childhood Ties (11/20)
  • The Badger (11/20)
  • Burning Sun (11/21)
  • Knock Down Drag Out (11/21)
  • Break Up (11/27)
  • Mr. Tax Man (11/27)
  • Drink In The Water (11/27)
  • Castles In The Sand (11/27)
  • Break Up (11/28)
  • Tough Guy Hat (11/28)
  • Mad Kow (11/28)
    "December Demos" More continued demos made at Rivers's home studio.
    These demos are culled from numerous DA-88 8-Track master tapes, and represent the best version recorded at the time. Most of these songs are new attempts at songs demo'd in October and November, with the notable exception of "Island In The Sun", seeing tape for the first time since Rivers's first demo of it in 1999.

  • Break Up (instrumental) (12/3)
  • Gimmie Some Love (instrumental) (12/3)
  • Knock Down Drag Out (instrumental) (12/3)
  • Starlight (instrumental) (12/3)
  • Island In The Sun (12/3)
  • Ayleen (12/3)
  • Childhood Ties (12/3)
  • Break Up (12/6)
  • Gimmie Some Love (12/7)
  • Drink In The Water (12/7)
  • Mr. Tax Man (12/7)
  • Homely (12/7)
  • Don't Let Go (12/7)
  • Knock Down Drag Out (12/7)
  • Starlight (12/7)
  • If You Want It (12/7)
  • Inside A Smile(12/7)
  • Crab (12/7)
    12/14/00 Rehersal at Swing House Studios
    under Ric Ocasek's supervision, various songs were demo'd repeatedly, trying out variations in structure and feel. Numerous DAT tapes were recorded over the course of about a week, these songs in particular were copied over to review.

  • Homely (2 versions)
  • Starlight (5 versions)
  • If You Want It (2 versions)
  • Island In The Sun (3 versions)
  • O Girlfriend (3 versions)
  • Gimmie Some Love
    12/17/00 - Live show audience bootleg: KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas
    details unknown
    12/21/00 Demo at Rivers's Studio
    The first of 4 "last minute demo's", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

  • Inside A Smile
  • Gonna Make My Move
  • Downtown (Instrumental) (note: this song has lyrics, but not on this demo version)
  • Gimmie Some Love (Instrumental)
    12/22/00 Demo at S.I.R., Los Angeles
    The second of 4 "last minute demo's", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

  • Knock Down Drag Out
  • Knock Down Drag Out alternate version
  • Gimmie Some Love
  • Homely
  • O-Girlfriend
  • Sugar Booger
    12/23/00 Demo at S.I.R., Los Angeles
    The third of 4 "last minute demo's", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

  • Knock Down Drag Out
  • Homely
  • Knock Down Drag Out
  • Gimmie Some Love
  • Homely
  • O Girlfriend
  • O Girlfriend
  • Break Up
  • O Lisa
  • Starlight
    12/26/00 Demo at S.I.R., Los Angeles
    The fourth of 4 "last minute demo's", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

  • Island In The Sun
  • Don't Let Go
  • Knock Down Drag Out
  • Gimmie Some Love
  • Homely
  • O Girlfriend
  • Break Up
  • O Lisa
  • Starlight
  • Cryin' And Lonely



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