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U.S. Checking al Qaeda Claim of Killing Bhutto

December 27, 2007 11:47 AM

Brian Ross, Richard Esposito & R. Schwartz Report:

Uscheckingal_mn While al Qaeda is considered by the U.S. to be a likely suspect in the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Banazir Bhutto, U.S. intelligence officials say they cannot confirm an initial claim of responsibility for the attack, supposedly from an al Qaeda leader in Afghanistan.   

An obscure Italian Web site said Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, al Qaeda's commander in Afghanistan, told its reporter in a phone call, "We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahedeen."

It said the decision to assassinate Bhutto was made by al Qaeda's No. 2 leader, Ayman al Zawahri in October. Before joining Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, Zawahri was imprisoned in Egypt for his role in the assassination of then-Egyptian President Anwar Sadat.

Bhutto had been outspoken in her opposition to al Qaeda and had criticized the government of President Pervez Musharraf for failing to take strong action against the Islamic terrorists. 

"She openly threatened al Qaeda, and she had American support," said ABC News consultant Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism adviser. "If al Qaeda could try to kill Musharraf twice, it could easily do this," he said.

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Al Qaeda had claimed responsibility for the bomb attack Oct. 18 during Bhutto's homecoming rally that killed 140 people but left the former prime minister uninjured.

Senior U.S. officials say it will take several days to sort out who was responsible and that it will be "a test of credibility for the Pakistani government."

U.S. officials monitoring Internet chat rooms known to be used by Islamic militants say several claims of responsibility have been posted, although such postings are notoriously unreliable.

In a statement Thursday night, an FBI spokesman said that there are "no specific threats" against the U.S. in web postings reviewed by the bureau.

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ok, this has all the signs of crap. No matter what comes out now, AlQueada has been associated with this. Welcome back to the politics of fear. Next, we will hear how someone admitted of this plot under torture and that if we had been allowed to be more aggressive with it we might have found something out sooner.

Posted by: Louis | Dec 27, 2007 12:10:48 PM

I think Bush did it.

Posted by: Mike | Dec 27, 2007 12:15:38 PM

I think Al-Qaeda may have overreached on this one. WW I started like this and this may stir a wave of anger against Al-Qaeda that brings about retaliation and tips on their where-abouts.

One can only hope. Ms Bhutto was truly courageous and the only way her death will not have been in vain is to bring Al-Qaeda to their knees.

Posted by: boB | Dec 27, 2007 12:17:28 PM

Do we still have doubts about the evil of Islamic Terrorism?

Posted by: maryo | Dec 27, 2007 12:18:02 PM

A perfect excuse from the White House to enter in Pakistan????? How many american kids will die now? How many troops will be send to Pakistan?? How many mothers will be crying? Please, my friends No more War...no more suffering.

Posted by: norma | Dec 27, 2007 12:24:34 PM

It doesn't require a brave or intelligent man to blow himself up...only a moron that listens to the likes of Bin Laden. These idiots have bastardized the Isalmic faith. It's time for reasonable, peaceful Muslims to destroy these cretins.

Posted by: Scott E. | Dec 27, 2007 12:29:52 PM

Why don't you do a story on the positive gains in Iraq? Of ocurse we can't have the masses understanding we are winning in Iraq. The media is tool to be used as a positive or negatvie force. The media screwed us - the soldiers in Nam and I am damn glad you didn't get away with it in Iraq!

Posted by: mark predovic | Dec 27, 2007 12:34:24 PM

A weasel farm seems appropriate.

Posted by: Russell | Dec 27, 2007 12:35:10 PM

I think Mike is an idiot.

Posted by: Dave | Dec 27, 2007 12:44:56 PM

Yep, Bush did it.

Posted by: RJ | Dec 27, 2007 12:45:57 PM


Posted by: BILLY BOB | Dec 27, 2007 12:46:19 PM

It was Global Warming, and Bush's fault.

Posted by: TimInLasVegas | Dec 27, 2007 12:46:50 PM

Absurd! Bush was too busy creating global warming. Everyone with bad skin, a blog and the complete X-Files DVD box set knows that. Check your facts... or are you a plant?

Posted by: Bizarro Mike | Dec 27, 2007 12:49:33 PM

inside job. Pakistan/Al Qaeda: What a cesspool of unevoled ego's and small, frightened men

Posted by: futureshock | Dec 27, 2007 12:49:35 PM

It's only a matter of time now...The War on Terror has evolved into Pakistan. They had better let us in....We have some work to do.

Posted by: Joe | Dec 27, 2007 12:49:50 PM

I don't think it really needs a huge "investigation" to determine who is responsible, al Qaeda has been talking about killing her for quite some time now.

Posted by: eddie | Dec 27, 2007 12:50:56 PM

The religion of 'peace' strikes again. Terrible day for the world.

Posted by: Doug | Dec 27, 2007 12:51:03 PM

Man made global warming is to blame.

Posted by: Todd | Dec 27, 2007 12:52:15 PM

What a sad day for Pakistan. I might not have agreed with her politically or questioned her motives for returning to Pakistan but Bhutto didn't deserve to die like this. There will be the inevitable scapegoat/blame game chase regarding who was responsible.

There will be those saying that Musharref, Pres. Bush, American politicians, or other democratic leaders were responsible for her death. Let's keep in mind who actually is responsible: the ignorant and hate-filled extremists/terrorists who inhabit Pakistan as well as their enablers. My heart goes out to those killed/hurt in this tragic incident and may the culprits be brought to justice.

Posted by: Erin | Dec 27, 2007 12:52:25 PM

This terrible crime will throw a spotlight on the American candidates for President and may reverse the domestic tilt that success in Iraq has enabled the candidates to stress over the last couple of months. Foreign policy expertise will once again come to the fore as a necessary qualification for a nominee of a major party. This may also temporarily derail a third party bid by Bloomberg or Ron Paul.

Posted by: daveinboca | Dec 27, 2007 12:53:06 PM

I think Louis is correct... "AlQueada has been associated with this..., we will hear how someone admitted of this plot under torture and that if we had been allowed to be more aggressive with it [torture] we might have found something out sooner." Thank you, Louis!

Posted by: Sam Wagner | Dec 27, 2007 12:53:20 PM

ok, this has all the signs of crap. No matter what comes out now, AlQueada has been associated with this. Welcome back to the politics of fear. Next, we will hear how someone admitted of this plot under torture and that if we had been allowed to be more aggressive with it we might have found something out sooner.

Posted by: Sam Wagner | Dec 27, 2007 12:54:31 PM

The brutality of AQ in Iraq has turned the Iraqi people against them, maybe the murder of Benazir Bhutto will have the same affect in Pakistan. One can only hope.

Posted by: Ken | Dec 27, 2007 12:54:54 PM

now we have a nuclear armed country in chaos.. if the UN has ANY balls whatsoever it will IMMEDIATELY step up and take over.. will that happen?

if not, they have undoubtedly proven themselves completely worthless and should dissolve NOW

Posted by: 1eyeninja | Dec 27, 2007 12:55:46 PM

We need to have more understanding for Al Quaeda. They are people too. I think
with better education in place, more day care, excellent nutrition and diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy its hard to believe that the religion of peace could be respomsible for this.

Posted by: tom | Dec 27, 2007 12:55:50 PM

This is what Al-Qaeda wanted all along. Chaos in a nuclear country. Pakistanis need to come together and clean the country out so that they may live in peace. Very sad day for Pakistan to lose this courageous woman. Musharaff needs to put Marshall law back into effect until everyone calms down, and assesses this with rationality.

Posted by: cbeargal | Dec 27, 2007 12:56:06 PM

Smells like AL CIADA.

Posted by: Pontus | Dec 27, 2007 12:56:12 PM

This is a terrible tragedy for the people of Pakistan. We are a peace loving and modrate people. Those who have done this are enemies of Pakistan and enemies of Islam. This is a moment in History when we as Pakistanis should unite against Extremism and Terrorism and strengthen our reslove to eradicate this menace from the world. We as a country and as a people are the biggest sufferers in this. We have lost hundreds and thousands of innocent lives, we have lost almost a thousand brave soldiers and our country becomes more and more unsafe. We need the help from the world in fighting this menace.

Posted by: AbuBakr | Dec 27, 2007 12:56:35 PM

It's time to unleash the full power of the CIA & the US military.

Posted by: bill | Dec 27, 2007 12:56:47 PM

I agree with Mike: it was the evil Bush, with Cheney actually pulling the trigger, with bullets supplied tax free by Halliburton.

Posted by: sohail | Dec 27, 2007 12:57:43 PM

Isn't this similar to the days leading to 911?

We need Bush now more than ever.
4 more years, maybe 8 or more...

I fear what would a lesser Republican or, God forbid, any democrat mean in this time when a strong, honest and brave president like Bush is a must.

Posted by: Beau Philips | Dec 27, 2007 1:01:21 PM

At a time like this, What kind of responsible news organization would actually pick out a demented-conspiratorial "Bush Did It!" email to post in the selected comments on this terrible story??? Is ABC NEWS run by juvenile wackos who also believe in alien abductions?!?! SHAME ON ABC!!

Posted by: Rider | Dec 27, 2007 1:01:38 PM

those who say terrorism is just fear tactics remind me of the people who said hitler was just a small problem and was not a major threat, and said japan would never attack the usa.....deja vue (all over again!).

Posted by: johnny | Dec 27, 2007 1:02:32 PM

Musharraf was widely condemned for putting Bhutto under house arrest, but maybe he did it for her protection!!

Posted by: Key | Dec 27, 2007 1:02:57 PM

Do we still have doubts about the evil of American Terrorism?

Posted by: Bob | Dec 27, 2007 1:03:04 PM

I agree with the above comments that AlQaeda and those who support Islamic terrorism are totally responsible. This brave woman called them out...that obviously, can't be left to stand. This is a long war, as President Bush told us after 9/11 and it may go on for eons of time before the world finally is tired of it all. We can only hope that adults will finally take charge and stop the insanity.

Posted by: cousair | Dec 27, 2007 1:04:05 PM

> ok, this has all the signs of crap.

Yes, Islamic terrorist crap. Or, is it conspiracy loon crap?

> No matter what comes out now, AlQueada has been associated with this.

By themselves, no less. If not them, then who? Aliens from outer space? Or more ominously, the U.S., the most eeeeeeeeevil country in the history of the UNIVERSE?

> Welcome back to the politics of fear.

Welcome back to the REAL WORLD. Why is it so hard for you to recognize evil when it stares you in the face? This just proves that the terrorists don't care if you are white, black, Muslim, Christian, or whatever. If you get in their way, you are a target.

All decent people, Muslims included, should be fighting against them, not fearing them.

Posted by: Allen Fuller | Dec 27, 2007 1:04:38 PM

Leftists have all the answers

Posted by: VEG | Dec 27, 2007 1:04:51 PM

This event is of course sad news. However, as Americans we must accept the facts that as a nation we cannot control the world. Further, we should not allow our elected political "Decission Makers" or as one calls himself a "Decider" use our country for the purposes of attempting to control the world. Although our intentions may be for the good, history proves to us that no nation who ever tried to do it in the recorded past has ever succeeded and survived as a nation.
I say, let's take care of us and help when we can. Otherwise, we have a country full of homeless and starving ppeople who do not even have proper mmedical care! It is time that we GET RREAL!

Posted by: Bob Baum | Dec 27, 2007 1:05:13 PM

While I agree we need to keep a watch out for the "politics of fear" mentioned above....we have to be just as careful to ASSUME it is politics of fear. Obviously AQ is the most likely suspect. just because fear has been played before, it does not mean that every claim of terrorism is false. Wake up.

Posted by: Brad | Dec 27, 2007 1:05:24 PM

Why don't these "insurgents" want peace? Why do they keep killing their own?

Reasonable people know who the evil in the Middle East is; others will seek to blame the US, Israel, Britain, etc...

Posted by: Howee | Dec 27, 2007 1:05:29 PM

This could definately work to the World's favor. If the Al-Qaeda connection is proven, Bhutto supporters and Musharref supporters will finally gather their political force and break internal resitance to erradicating Bin Laden and other Al Qaeda / Taliban leaders from their northern hideouts.

Posted by: PvB | Dec 27, 2007 1:06:16 PM

You will always find Libbies who will bash their own country and stand up for "terrorists rights" and make up Bush conspiracy theories. What wonderful Ameericans. Oh and I am NO Bush fan but I will never buy into bashing my own country no matter who is in office.

Posted by: Dan | Dec 27, 2007 1:06:39 PM

Based on India meddling in Pakistan and occupied Kashmir, where they have preveneted the U.N. required plebicite all these years, I would take a very close look at India. It is no coincidence that Al Qaida, Ansar Al Islam and most of the other world-wide terrorist organizations got their start in that region. India's treatment of Muslim and other minorities is criminal and they, and our support for them, are the ultimate cause for this.

Posted by: Mike Brooks | Dec 27, 2007 1:07:13 PM

Maybe Mike's statement was tongue in cheek but theres a lot of idiots out there in bloggers land who will believe that the President was the second shooter. Kindest Regards Joe

Posted by: Joe Bean | Dec 27, 2007 1:08:00 PM

Louis, al Qaeda is claiming responsibility, rather than being blamed by the Bush administration. Let the facts come out. You conspiracy theorists are nuts!

Posted by: JJ | Dec 27, 2007 1:09:26 PM

Pakistan NEEDS to give Waziristan region back to Afghanistan as they should have after Durand line 100 year treaty expired in 1990s (like Hong Kong went back to china).
This will eliminate the excuse mushraf uses to why pak military cannot go there (autonomous region) and NATO cannot come into (Pakistan territory). Pakistan grabbed this land after treaty expired and called it a autonomous region . It needs to give it back as it should have in the first place. Then NATO can go in and clean the place out, local pashtuns will like that too.

Posted by: Reader | Dec 27, 2007 1:10:44 PM

Did Bush fly the planes into the towers as well?

Posted by: Jeff | Dec 27, 2007 1:10:58 PM

Politics of fear? A world leader was just assasinated. How much more do you need to be convinced we are fighting a real war with a real enemy. Call it Al-Qaeda or Islamo-facism.....whatever. The goal is the same: convert the infidels or kill the infidels. If people who think like you get into power, we should all be afraid. I recommend we all put down our little political swords and bats and wake up to the threat that continues to grow world-wide.

Posted by: James | Dec 27, 2007 1:11:13 PM

I was reading about an "attempted" attempt on Bhutos life on the internet. I then turned on my TV to reports that she had been "assassinated"! I went back to the computer and read the article that was up there and it said specifically, "She had just crossed the gate when we heard a deafening sound. We could feel its impact but by the grace of God SHE IS SAFE."

But the TV reports she was shot first... sped away... and then the bomb went off.

I saved the article and printed it. I then clicked refresh and the NEW STORY HAD TAKEN ITS PLACE.


Posted by: Anthony | Dec 27, 2007 1:12:29 PM

Mussaraff assassinated Bhutto. He's the only one that can gain by her death. He had help maybe from these other groups, but he ordered the hit so she would not defeat him in the Jan. 2008 elections.

Posted by: Doreen | Dec 27, 2007 1:12:44 PM

Everyone is wrong. It's all the fault of Global Warming.

Posted by: bgf | Dec 27, 2007 1:13:22 PM

Amidst all the idiotic bluster about the evils of the United States, has it dawned on anyone that the ONLY reason these terrorists still exist is that America - and the rest of the sane world - have not yet sunk to the level of these fanatics? If we did, and we used their own tactics and "rules" against them, we'd be killing millions of innocents in order to eradicate a relative few villains. Please, grow-up and place the blame where it belongs.

Posted by: Steve | Dec 27, 2007 1:13:37 PM

you people who blame bush for everything need to wake the hell up and deal with reality one of these days.

Posted by: brendan | Dec 27, 2007 1:13:39 PM

Firstly, all of the conspiracy theorists need to sit down and shut-up.

Secondly, we know from experience that we cannot possibly trust US intelligence, and, sadly, very little of Israel's.

Thirdly, we need to let the dust settle for a few of days.

An lastly, we need to rely on a summation of French, British, German, Russia, and China's intelligence; none from US, and, skeptically, little from Israel and the balance of the Middle East.

Then, on ONLY then, can the free-world have a united response.

Posted by: Pat de Anaheim | Dec 27, 2007 1:13:48 PM

Now lets see what the democrats and Hillery Clinton have to say now about the al queda non threat.

Posted by: Ric Starnes | Dec 27, 2007 1:14:31 PM

It sure is funny reading some of the postings here blaming Bush for this brutal murder. People with half a stem cell for a brain know who is behind this. Islamic Extremist who did not want a woman in power telling them what to do are behind this cowardly act. These so-called people hate women and believe that a woman is a second class citizen that has no voice in the ruling of a Islamic nation. You cannot reason with mad dog killers, The only language they know is violence and the lash.

Posted by: Kenny | Dec 27, 2007 1:14:46 PM

I believe this horrible act could be a tipping point for the vast majority of Muslims who have had their religion, community, and families victimized thousands of times by cowards in caves who claim to have the same beliefs in Islam! The time has come for the true believers of the religion of peace to speak for their Great Faith, and bring the COWARDS in the caves in to the daylight, and then to ROOM Temperature. We will Stand with all of you.

Posted by: Matt Sumrell | Dec 27, 2007 1:16:04 PM

This is a Golden opportunity to get rid of Al-Quaeda and Taliban, we should bring all the firepower that the U.S. Armed Forces have and unleashed on this terrorist and exterminate them once and for all, we must do these because I guarante you that if they get a hold of Pakistan's Nukes, they will kill few Million Americans by detonating a Nuclear device inside a U.S. City. Let's get rid of this Nuts once and for all.


Posted by: Juan | Dec 27, 2007 1:16:06 PM

The politics of fear? How about the politics of being an idiot. The claim came from an ITALIAN web site, and obscure one at that! Are they now part of the conspiracy? If people want to go around IGNORING REALITY by all means...just stay out of the RATIONAL people's way please!

Posted by: John Michaelson | Dec 27, 2007 1:16:38 PM

It's comforting to know that the US is checking on the credibility of whether or not AQ committed this act. According to the US, AQ was solely responsible for 9/11 in spite of the fact that there are video taped and photographic evidence along with testimony to the contrary that shows this to be scientifically impossible. It's to the benefit of the US to have AQ take credit for todays woes in Pakistan, so I'm sure this will be a completely thorough and objective inquiry.

Posted by: Fletcher | Dec 27, 2007 1:17:52 PM

Al-qaeda wouldn't hate America if we didn't have unwavering support for Israel and total disregard for the Palestine people. We started this, now America must face the consequences of it's bigotry towards Islam for the sake of Israel.

However, all they can do is just hide behind calling people anti-semetic.

Posted by: patriot | Dec 27, 2007 1:18:21 PM

Best guesses from the Times UK

The main suspects in Benazir Bhutto’s assassination are the Pakistani and foreign Islamist militants who saw her as a heretic and an American stooge and had repeatedly threatened to kill her.

But fingers will also be pointed at Inter-Services Intelligence, the agency that has had close ties to the Islamists since the 1970s and has been used by successive Pakistani leaders to suppress political opposition.

Posted by: bob | Dec 27, 2007 1:18:49 PM

"A perfect excuse from the White House to enter in Pakistan????? How many american kids will die now? How many troops will be send to Pakistan?? How many mothers will be crying? Please, my friends No more War...no more suffering."

Why take on issues now that we can have our grandchildren's generation take on?
That way we wont cry anymore, that way life wont be tough. Cant we just hug these people? Lowest casualty rate in the history of modern warfare is Too much to bear?

Thank god our Grandparents didnt have the same attitude.

Posted by: PK | Dec 27, 2007 1:19:24 PM

The message is for Mark Predovic:

Winning in Iraq? Think again!

Posted by: John Jackson | Dec 27, 2007 1:20:28 PM

I agree, it must have been Global Warming and Bush inflamed it. ALL THE PROBLEMS WILL GO AWAY WHEN BUSH IS GONE...
wow, listen to yourselves- you sound like the most uneducated most one-track thinkers I have ever heard.

I'm with you Tim

Posted by: Joe | Dec 27, 2007 1:20:31 PM

There is no al qaeda, just like there is no woody woodpecker. Someone else draws the pictures, pulls the strings. Wake up.

Posted by: Serge | Dec 27, 2007 1:22:10 PM

I was just kidding about peaple believing that the President was the second shooter untill I read Norma's comment maybe theres more out there. Wheres Singer when you need her. Kindest Regards

Posted by: Joe Bean | Dec 27, 2007 1:22:28 PM

Quit your wining, geez do you read what you write before submitting. Please, please no more war, no more suffering, no more crying mothers oh please!

Posted by: Larry J | Dec 27, 2007 1:23:02 PM

I'm getting my eye excercises in these days with all the eye rolling I do when reading all the tinfoil hat posts about how every negative news item in the middle east is somehow Bush's fault and if we didn't go into Iraq the world would be a peaceful love fest. A radical idiot stormed into a crowd with a gun and a bomb - shooting people and blowing himself and everyone else up! How quickly the left wing folks make up excuses and give a pass for such evil deeds (the U.S. created the problem; Israel caused this... etc.) This radical, extremist stuff needs to be battled or else we all will slide back into the 14th century like the radical clerics in that region want us to go back to.

Posted by: Dan from Richmond | Dec 27, 2007 1:23:19 PM

Posted by: maryo | Dec 27, 2007 12:18:02 PM

A perfect excuse from the White House to enter in Pakistan????? How many american kids will die now? How many troops will be send to Pakistan?? How many mothers will be crying? Please, my friends No more War...no more suffering

No body's sending anybody anywhere yet girlfriend. But do you know that Pakistan has 100-plus nuclear warheads on missiles? If they fall into the hands of these jihadist nut jobs, who are coming in their pants just at the very thought of it, you can kiss your sorry you-know-what goodbye.

There will not be any time for sorry mothers to be crying. When will the kooks in our country get off the notion that these extremists are not going to go on a "cruise" any time soon and leave the world alone. You need to get it through that brick on your shoulders that this will never end until they and their sick, cancerous, ideology are eradicated from the planet.

Welcome to the 21st century. Now, get back to your kool-aid.

Posted by: Rob | Dec 27, 2007 1:24:16 PM

She was a friend to democracy and freedom and she got killed for it. She knew she was a target and has been since the mid 90's yet bringing peace and democracy was important enough to risk her life for. Either Pakistan finally cleans up the terrorist ruling their streets or we go and do it for them.

Posted by: The Cowboy | Dec 27, 2007 1:24:30 PM

Just another day in paradise...

Posted by: Keith | Dec 27, 2007 1:24:52 PM

Hello ! How many more mothers will be crying ? How many kids will die ?
How many innocent civilians must die at the hands of islamo-fascists before the likes of you and other "deny-ers" of their totalitarian intent, finally "get it". Your 'right' to complain about it being Bush's fault would be cut short under the auspices of sharia law, typically by a small sword...... remember Daniel Pearl ? Geez, was that Bush too ?
Wake up and smell the islamo-fascist wave sweeping that area of the world. Coming to neighborhood near YOU , if people like yourself have any say in the matter.

Posted by: Jeff | Dec 27, 2007 1:25:24 PM

I wonder about the sick, poorly brought up juveniles who think it fun to blame our President for the horror in Pakistan?

Posted by: Nat | Dec 27, 2007 1:26:58 PM

It has become very apparent that Perez Musharif cannot control the radical elements of Islam in his country. As long as these Al Qaeda Criminals can find a Safe Haven in the Mountains of Pakistan then No One is safe. The Democratic Institution of Self Government is under attack by these islamofascists and they will only get stronger unless President Bush, along with NATO decide to invade this Safe Havens and hunt down every Fundie they can find. Because it has come down to us or them, and I prefer US!!!
I Would even sanction the use of Nuclear Weaponry to just wipe out these mountain villiages that harbor terrosists, and then mine them so no one else can reuse these areas to launch New Attacks on the Rights of Human Beings to live in Freedom.

Posted by: Sonny | Dec 27, 2007 1:27:23 PM

al Qaeda admitted trying to kill her before and are admitting it now. Let's don't hide her heads in the sand.

Posted by: Kenneth Right | Dec 27, 2007 1:27:52 PM

I cannot imagine for a minute that someone in the international intelligence community with all of it's global technology and sophistication didn't have fore knowledge that this event was going to take place when, where and how it took place.

Posted by: Fletch | Dec 27, 2007 1:28:19 PM

I wonder about the sick, poorly brought up juveniles who think it fun to blame our President for the horror in Pakistan?

Posted by: Nat | Dec 27, 2007 1:29:23 PM

The only directly identified source in this "news story" works for NBC. What a load of crap. Notice the address for the "obscure Italian web site" is not given. No names of sources.

Let's invade another country based on unsourced and proably inaccurate stories. But as we say in Texas, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

No need for this lack of journalism...

Posted by: JimmyP | Dec 27, 2007 1:30:29 PM

regarding maryo comments (i.e. an excuse to invade Pakistan and to kill more American kids) GET A LIFE! What is maryo's suggestion? Do nothing? We must have the stomach to confront this sort of evil no matter where it is. We do not have to invade to do that but we can continue to fight the wars against these scum. We shouldn't cower and hide under a rock. We should be deeply saddened by such a blow to those of us who are civilized and look forward to freedom, liberty, and democracy taking root in that region of the world. Thank God President Bush has a backbone and doesn't buckle at the knees.

Posted by: Bob Leahy | Dec 27, 2007 1:30:39 PM

Guess poster "Louis" thinks the moon landing was fake and the earth is flat too. Typical liberal drivel.

Posted by: Joe | Dec 27, 2007 1:31:03 PM

Brittany Spears did it. I'm just kidding. It *WAS* George Bush and his Global Warming....

Posted by: RedNeckerson | Dec 27, 2007 1:32:16 PM

It appears that Al Queada has shot down an ingenious American plan to have two pro-American, anti-Al Queada leaders running for election in Pakistan at the same time: Musharraf and Bhutto.

Posted by: Mecki | Dec 27, 2007 1:32:42 PM

So where are the facts in this story that we can substantiate? Reminds me a mushroom cloud a few years back.

Posted by: JimmyP | Dec 27, 2007 1:33:08 PM

Bush lied, wells dried.

Posted by: Arnold Ziffle | Dec 27, 2007 1:33:08 PM

Al Queda was created & supported by the CIA to fight the Soviets In Afghanistan.Who do you think is responsible for most of the mayhem in this world?

Posted by: gwheel | Dec 27, 2007 1:33:16 PM

Beau Philips -- The failed foreign policy and war mongering of the Bush administration is what has gotten the world into the mess it's in right now. They've been allowed six solid years, and almost $1 TRILLION dollars, to make the world a better place, and instead they've pushed the world to the brink of disaster. What this country needs is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Bush has been doing for his two terms.

Posted by: Eric | Dec 27, 2007 1:34:50 PM

There are some serious nuts posting in response to this sad event. It is doubly sad that this is the path this world is traveling: where clear thinking people are pushed to the side and thrust into the fire created by irrational people of all culture and point of view.

Posted by: Wow | Dec 27, 2007 1:34:53 PM

It was the far left secular progressives like George Soros and Hillary Clinton and Michael Moore who did this to Bhutto, and furthermore...oh wait there are men in white suits with butterfly nets knocking at my door...gotta go.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly | Dec 27, 2007 1:34:56 PM

"I agree with Mike: it was the evil Bush, with Cheney actually pulling the trigger, with bullets supplied tax free by Halliburton."
Somehow I think the NeoKons and their Investment Banker friends were in on it too.

Posted by: Master of the Universe | Dec 27, 2007 1:35:19 PM

Another example of the peaceful, humane, tolerant religion that is Islam. To those of who you think we should end this war and live in harmony with radicals, giving all our money yo the poor and underpriviliged at our own expense, you've got serious issues.

I'm sure Hillary (as President) would roll her eyes at the US Military she so despises and crawl into a hole. Her highness would allow these radicals to stomp a mudhole in us and walk it dry.

Posted by: Mike | Dec 27, 2007 1:36:13 PM

Just remember, this is the religion of peace everyone. This is WW IV whether you want to acknowledge it or not. They want to kill all Americans! Making deals will not work, only total and complete defeat & surrender.

Posted by: nibot | Dec 27, 2007 1:36:29 PM

If Al Queda is responsible for all this stuff why hasn't Bush and Cheney gone after him? They left him alone soon after 9/11 and quickly went into Iraq. Something just isn't right about this. Plus the fact that he let Bin Laden whole family leave the country soon after and they and the Bush family are great pals.

I'm not into conspiracy theories, but something just isn't right about this. Bush even said Bin Laden wasn't a worry to him....but then every time they want to continue the war in Iraq they bring up Al Queda.


"But during a news conference at the White House on March 13, 2002, Bush said something close to what Kerry quoted. "I truly am not that concerned about him," the president said, according to the official White House transcript."

Posted by: Pam | Dec 27, 2007 1:37:56 PM

You foaming-at-the-mouth Troofer idiots who blame this on Bush need to stop putting off those desperately needed brain scans and kick up your meds.

AQ tried to kill Musharraf twice and have been involved in numerous other assassination attempts (including Zawahiri's involvement in Anwar Sadat's), including many against Hamid Karzai. This is right out of Al Qaeda's playbook and fulfilling a promise they made, yet it is BUSH who contracted the the suicide bombers?

You BusHwackos are so consumed with hatred you can't even see who the real enemy is, even when the evidence is right in front of your face. How does it feel to be so mentally deranged?

Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question.

Posted by: JohnnyT | Dec 27, 2007 1:38:05 PM

This terrible crime will throw a spotlight on the American candidates for President and may reverse the domestic tilt that success in Iraq has enabled the candidates to stress over the last couple of months. Foreign policy expertise will once again come to the fore as a necessary qualification for a nominee of a major party. This may also temporarily derail a third party bid by Bloomberg or Ron Paul.

Posted by: daveinboca | Dec 27, 2007 1:38:18 PM

The increasing violence in Pakistan is because our boys in uniform are doing an incredible job of ridding Iraq of terrorists. Pakistan is next, baby!

Posted by: Ausbesseur | Dec 27, 2007 1:39:22 PM

I don’t understand how people who claim to be Americans or live in the states blame the leader of our country, if you don’t like it here than get out maybe move to Pakistan. Than you can feel what it is to have freedom, the same freedom you are given to give your views. My prayers go out to the families hurt by this man made ignorance, mans way of just trying to rule the world

Posted by: BIG "D" | Dec 27, 2007 1:39:25 PM

Al Qaida? Naaah, they never do stuff like this. No way. It was Bush, no wait, ... it was Cheney, yeah, that's it, Cheney!

Posted by: IdiotLiberal | Dec 27, 2007 1:40:47 PM

daveinboca -- This attack in Pakistan hardly 'derails' the third party candidate hopes of Ron Paul or Bloomberg. On the contrary it strengthens their positions, and destroys the status-quo positions of neo-conservative mindset that has gotten us into this mess in the first place. The Bush administration has destroyed the concept of successful foreign policy. This is clearly evident by the continuing violence in Iraq that has now spread to Pakistan. The 'Bush' plan is a miserable failure, and any candidate that thinks they will achieve success in the elections by copying this plan is in total denial.

Posted by: Eric | Dec 27, 2007 1:40:50 PM

Bush does not even know where Pakistan is. All he knows is that his buddies need more illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Juan Tanga | Dec 27, 2007 1:40:52 PM

I can't believe some of you! This was one of the greatest women, nay inspirations, of our time, and many of y'all are acting like you are 10!

1. Al Qaeda is publicly taking responsibility for her assasination...so how is it the US is "trying" to tie to it to Al Qaeda so we can go into Pakistan?

2. How can you call for peace at a time like this? While I am definitelypro-peace, when someone attacks you and yours, you MUST FIGHT BACK. Or else you simply surrender.

I for one will not have my daughter grow up in an Islamic world. I welcome Muslims into a world of peace, but if they want to start a fight, I will finish it.

Posted by: Sarah | Dec 27, 2007 1:41:15 PM

Time to send in the Rangers again. Only this time let them finish the job. WhooYah!!

Posted by: Kevin | Dec 27, 2007 1:41:23 PM

Damn, now gas prices will go up for sure.

Posted by: Caitlin | Dec 27, 2007 1:42:09 PM

Any of you liberals who think bush had anything to do with this have just showed me why its so important to make sure your party of ignorance stays out of power.

This lady was no one of consequence. The USA didn't support her in fact her policies sharply contrasted the policies we are behing... however she would have won a sweeping democratic election and democracy is freedom.

The people united behind her so Zawahari had her executed... this is a said day for the world.

Its too bad both the democrats and the republicans have no one of strength in the upcoming election. If ANY of them would come forth and show gumption they would have my vote.

Posted by: Sensible Man | Dec 27, 2007 1:42:18 PM

AQ is no doubt responsible. Few organizations have the capacity or the motive to carry out such an attack. Bhutto was an unquestionable US ally and was poised to take a prominent role in Pakistan. AQ's Pakistan operations were doomed with her running things.

I think AQ overplayed their hand in this case. The backlash from Muslims everywhere is going to be similar to the Awakenings in Iraq.

Posted by: Nick | Dec 27, 2007 1:43:07 PM

"success in Iraq"?? LOL!! Apparently any improvement on the disaster we created is now seen as success. Thanks for the laugh this morning clones....

Posted by: ml | Dec 27, 2007 1:43:24 PM

Of course it was al qaeda, they said they were going to do it, they have been trying to kill Bhutto and Musharraf because they were fighting back against al Qaeda. The math here is simple and it is disturbing that so many want to attribute this to someone else (for instance President Bush). They fact is, these people are afraid of al Qaeda and they think if they can find someone else to blame then al Qaeda won't matter.

Ray Robison author of Both In One Trench: Saddam's Secret Terror Documents

Ray Robison author of Both In One Trench: Saddam's Secret Terror Documents

Posted by: Ray Robison | Dec 27, 2007 1:43:35 PM

Al Qaeda is one step closer to toppling the Pakistani government and obtaining a nuclear warhead.

Since all of this is a right wing contrivance, we have nothing to fear.

We can do without one or two major cities, after all.

Move On.

Posted by: Conan The Libertarian | Dec 27, 2007 1:43:57 PM

It does not mattter whose hands are bloody. What matters is that our lives (us here in the good ol
USA) have become more in danger. Even if it was Al-Qaeda, or Al-CIAda, or Global Warming, or Dickie Cheney practicing plinko with his shot gun again, Americans will be made to pay. I travel for a living and I am frightened for our future.

Perhaps it is time for America to re-embrace it's isolationist past. It's time to remove ourselves from the UN. It's time for us to let the world do as it desires. This ain't the old Soviet Union "Evil Empire" Cold War fun we had a generation ago. Back then, both sides knew there was a line that was never to be crossed at the expense of humanity. Now we're up against an enemy who does not care if humanity becomes extinct. We should do what must be done to protect our own country and our own citizens and we must do that here on own shores and borders. So no one wants American "help". Great, to h-e-double-hockey-sticks with the rest of the world. Let's come home lads (and lassies). There's work to be done here.

Posted by: BillBonehead | Dec 27, 2007 1:44:01 PM

Scott E. had a great point when he said:

"It's time for reasonable, peaceful Muslims to destroy these cretins."

The problem is I was there and saw the towers fall. I saw people jumping from over 100 stories up. What did the Muslims in OUR country do? They cheered and celebrated. If there are peaceful and moderate Muslims, now is the time to stand up and be counted.

They aren't only killing "infidels" but other Muslims.

Posted by: Pam | Dec 27, 2007 1:44:12 PM

Is anyone investigating the Teddy Bear named Mohammed from Sudan? He has been laying pretty low lately.

Posted by: NP | Dec 27, 2007 1:46:02 PM

this is a great opp for mushareef to reel bin laden and al quada in and consolidate his power. let's hope.

Posted by: mikeva | Dec 27, 2007 1:46:08 PM

If we do go into Pakistan, then Al Quaeda will come from Iraq and then we can pull out of Iraq. The only bad thing is we'll have to kill about million or two million Pakistanis as collateral damage.

Posted by: steve | Dec 27, 2007 1:47:05 PM

This is obviously a product of a vast right-wing conspiracy and calls for immediate action. Impeach Bush and install Hillary as Dictator NOW!

Posted by: Saltherring | Dec 27, 2007 1:47:17 PM

American Liberalism left unchecked, will get us ALL KILLED!!!

Posted by: Sonny | Dec 27, 2007 1:47:39 PM

We the warriors need to pound/exterminate these al quieda SCUM 10 times harder until their but a sad memory. Only the strong survive.

Posted by: Killa | Dec 27, 2007 1:48:08 PM

There is way too much sarcasim here! This woman died for what she believed in. This is a sad day and a day that reminds us that the UN is a crock! If all the countries were really working together this type of behavior wouldn't be allowed at all! And those that attempt this horror would be off the streets!

Posted by: Karen | Dec 27, 2007 1:48:51 PM

Would Obama, Clinton, Edwards want to "talk" to Al-Queada now about this? Maybe if they talk long enough then they won't do this again, for a least a day or two. Could you possibly imagine the Democrats actually doing something to prevent this? Not a chance. Let's talk, get some support from maybe, Iran? Hmmm, maybe they will just ignore it and it will go away.

Posted by: Don | Dec 27, 2007 1:49:02 PM

Get ready for a nuclear attack here in the USA, kids. It's only a matter of time, now. Al-Queda will obtain Pakistani nukes. Targets will be NYC, LA, Tel Aviv, and London. Probably time to dig out the old Civil Defense training material.

Posted by: BillBonehead | Dec 27, 2007 1:49:11 PM

You have got to be kidding Louis. You and your kind ( The ACLU, MoveOn and other pacifist organizations)are the reason we tip toe around terrorists in the first place. But still you don't get it because you are clueless and ignorant to the real fact that these terrorists want Western civilization destroyed. With nincompoops like you running around the rest of us have to work really hard to get around the roadblocks you put in front of us while we try to protect you.

Posted by: Jimmy Jenkins | Dec 27, 2007 1:49:38 PM

Fuel up the 52's, waive the fly rights over NW Pakistan, and let us erase AQ from history forever.

Posted by: Robert | Dec 27, 2007 1:49:52 PM

Karl Rove is behind this to help GOP Hucksters win.

Posted by: Gary | Dec 27, 2007 1:50:01 PM

Had to be the Clinton Machine behind the assasination. How else could Hillary claim to be the smartest woman in the world with Benazir Bhutto around?
Hillary only got a measly $100K in her cattle futures scandal while Benazir pocketed $1.5Bn in her scandal.

Posted by: Billy Bob | Dec 27, 2007 1:50:03 PM

If Bush had stayed in Afghanistan and finished the job, we would not be talking about this right now. Instead he let greed and power be his guide and now we all pay the price...

Posted by: John | Dec 27, 2007 1:51:17 PM

Perhaps this is how the world ends.

Posted by: BillBonehead | Dec 27, 2007 1:51:40 PM

This is very tragic. It ia more likely a AQL operation. If that turns out to bw the case then hopefully the Pakistanni people will turn on her killers with a vengence.

Posted by: arg | Dec 27, 2007 1:52:09 PM

some of these absurd and insensitive comments now once and for all prove what a Liberal and one sided news outlet ABC has evolved into.

Posted by: BF | Dec 27, 2007 1:52:12 PM

American Liberalism left unchecked, will get us ALL KILLED!!!

Posted by: Sonny | Dec 27, 2007 1:52:53 PM

Al Qaeda again. It is time for the Muslim world to react and speak out or they too will be ruled by the extremists. They refuse to speak out do to fear.But they can be fearful no longer. The U.N. MUST be dissolved they are useless and corrupt. Bush has been constrained by the liberal agenda and to a point he has fallen for it. He has one year left to take charge and be a true leader. Our next leader must be stronger than Bush. The liberal democrats need to crawl into a hole and shut up unless the decide to back our military and our leaders.

Posted by: Dennis M | Dec 27, 2007 1:54:14 PM

This is crap. ALL our troops should be pulled from the area. Use our technology. Watch the area from space and if they don't kill each other over there then maybe we should think about a "more powerful" air strike using the "most feared weapon ever created by man." and end this once and for all. It worked for WWII, why not now? Are situations really that much different? What about inocent women and children? - Well the terrorists don't seem to care, why should we? Give fair warning for the inocent to leave, whoever stays will have to deal with the consequences.
Stop killing U.S. troops for someone elses cause. Re-strengthen our army and bring the men & women home - or - get Bin Laden and we'll have our vengence for 911!

Posted by: Jason Del Signore | Dec 27, 2007 1:56:33 PM

This is the reality of what Pakistan has become. Any interference by the US will simply put off the inevitable fight to come. The civilized and the crazies in Pakistan need to fight it out and see who which is stronger; the desire for civilized society or the desire for Islamic domination.

Posted by: Tom | Dec 27, 2007 1:57:08 PM

Come on people use your heads...who do you think Al Queda "really' is? REASEARCH!!! The answer is closer than you think.

Posted by: Truthg Hurts | Dec 27, 2007 1:57:09 PM

Come on people use your heads...who do you think Al Queda "really' is? RESEARCH!!! The answer is closer than you think.

Posted by: Truthg Hurts | Dec 27, 2007 1:57:20 PM

Thank you Louis for reminding us to not allow ourselves to be distracted from the War On Bush by reality or facts.

Posted by: Jeff Hagen | Dec 27, 2007 1:57:20 PM

Bob Baum has it right.
The U.S. needs to realize that it cannot force its' will onto others w/out their acceptance.
Our own population should come first unequivocally - health care, environment - before any more is spent forcing our politics on the world at large.
Benazir Bhutto was a heroine. It is a tragedy and loss for all.

Posted by: windeehill | Dec 27, 2007 1:57:45 PM

YES ! Aliens from outer space are responsible! AND Allen Fuller is one of them ! In fact he's their eeeeeeeeevilest leader!

Posted by: thermodyman | Dec 27, 2007 1:58:20 PM

Norma, We all wished we lived in your world, time to come join us in ours!!!!
Find out who was responsible, kill them, all their family and everyone they know. Keep doing that and maybe they will finally get a clue!!! They have a clue now that we wont do what is necessary to stop them...so on and on it goes.

Posted by: Henry Smith | Dec 27, 2007 1:58:46 PM

Kenny....LOL...this guy is retarded. Keep believing the news

Posted by: Wall of Denial | Dec 27, 2007 1:59:17 PM

quit insulting our brave service men and women by calling them children, you are truly clueless

Posted by: KevLanM | Dec 27, 2007 2:00:20 PM

There will certainly now be more complications for work across the border. Yet what Al Qaida thinks to have gained -even if they didn't do it they want credit- is harder to say. A good case scenario would be to generate the same reaction as in Iraq.

India cannot be resting easy either.

Posted by: Jim | Dec 27, 2007 2:01:51 PM

tom...are you THAT naive, or were you just being sarcastic.

Posted by: dave | Dec 27, 2007 2:02:11 PM

This administration is the leader of AQ. Most of you people have low intel and short term memory loss. Get a clue before attempting your hand at arm chair secret agents...LOL, morons.

Posted by: True American | Dec 27, 2007 2:02:50 PM

A mother of children; A mother to Pakistan has been murdered. She had lived for the people, by the people and of the people- the PPP but the earth of Pakistan has today been strewn with mother's blood. Who did it is not important anymore, why it was done,where it was done, how it was done is brilliant as breaking news, but the earth still has her warm blood flowing through it's veins.I pray for your soul Benazir!I pray for peace!I pray for love!I pray for you,Pakistan!May you be reborn again to rule with love, compassion and humanity.

Posted by: nayeesha singh | Dec 27, 2007 2:02:51 PM

Bush-haters automatically exclude Al Qaeda, which openly called for murdering Bhutto, claims it succeeded, and exults in her death. It had to be Bush, Cheney, Halliburton, the POLITICS OF FEAR, torture, Katrina, Rumsfeld, ad nauseum.

Posted by: woodprinz | Dec 27, 2007 2:03:32 PM

What exactly would be the benefit of Al-Qaeda for killing off Bhutto? I would follow the money trail between various political figures and military intelligence in Pakistan before I would assume it to be a foreign terrorist organization (even if they have a large presence in Pakistan).

Posted by: Jeff | Dec 27, 2007 2:06:02 PM

All the assertions that Bush or global warming are to blame simply convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that no good American should ever vote democrat again.
The blame for this falls squarely on the purveyors of the religion of peace.

Posted by: Mark | Dec 27, 2007 2:06:10 PM

I would be surprised if Al Qaeda wasn't directly involved in this assassination.

Too many muslims, with power, want to keep muslim countries in chaous so that the people cannot develop a "step-by-step" plan to achieve the calmness that is necessary for a country to create a viable enconomy with a viable education system. This would undermine Al Qaeda and it's ilk, so it can't be allowed to happen.

Posted by: Brian | Dec 27, 2007 2:06:31 PM

lefties are patriots and islam is a religion of peace.

Posted by: john | Dec 27, 2007 2:08:23 PM

Have the terror police decide who killed her yet? The average person never really knows things of this sort and politicians can place blame where it is see as most beneficial to them.

Posted by: Kenneth | Dec 27, 2007 2:08:53 PM

ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, will all find a way to blame Bush for this as soon as the DNC sends out the talking points. We are so on to you guys why don't you give it up and do some unbiased reporting.

Posted by: PHMass | Dec 27, 2007 2:08:56 PM

if only we could have inconvienced that poor guy with 30 seconds of waterboarding she may still be here shame on us americans

Posted by: jc | Dec 27, 2007 2:09:28 PM

Let's not forget this statement...THIS is the man for the job:

"There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qa'eda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Barack Obama

Posted by: Andrew | Dec 27, 2007 2:09:45 PM

I think the poor al qaida people must be terribly misunderstood. If only we could show them the love and understanding and forgive them for 9/11 then they would surely abandone their distructive ways. If Bhutto could have shown them more compassion things might have been different...

Posted by: Mrs Brown | Dec 27, 2007 2:09:50 PM

It's time for people to wake up and face the fact that we are at war with religious extremism. Idiots like Mike who have no clue as to what reality is are unwittingly agents for those factions. I would group the media in with Mike since some of the boldness of the terrorists is fueled by the crap the media spews for ratings. What is sad is the media is informed but choses to distort fact for gain.

Posted by: Ray Pride | Dec 27, 2007 2:10:17 PM

I wish that those like maryo and Louis who see this act as a reason to castigate American assertiveness in the war on terror could inhabit their own country. It would be governed by their apparent ideals of nonaggression even in the face of a force which is a danger to their existence. They would be quickly overrun by the Islamists, Iranians, Russians, N.Koreans or some other movements run by antisocial psychopaths. They would be gone (what a shame) and the rest of us who believe in peace through strength and fighting back against threats could continue on.

Posted by: george | Dec 27, 2007 2:10:24 PM

This is the work of the Terrorist Mullahs in Iran, They feared Ms. Buhtto
because they don't want any Democratic govenment formed next door to them, They also have created chaos in Iraq for the same reason, Why are Democratic governments let the terrorist mullahs in Iran continue with all their Terrorist actions, People of Iran are against all Terrorism but their government is a terrorist government, Russia , China and the Europeans specially the British / England support the Mullahs Terrorist Government in Tehran-Iran. We ask Mr. Brian Ross to investigate the Role of the Mullahs in Iran for these types of Terrorist actions.

Posted by: Ali | Dec 27, 2007 2:10:38 PM

This would not have happened if Sandy Berger would not have taken page 47 from the president's book of secrets and shoved it in his pants.

On a serious note - may she rest in peace as well as those others killed in this attack.

Posted by: John | Dec 27, 2007 2:10:45 PM

It doesn't matter WHO the triggerMAN was, etc. (emphasis on 'man' here). It only matters as to why Bhutto (who has to take the title of the Ultimate Fool of 2007) decided to return to Pakistan after 8 years of exile in the first place. Didn't she realize that NO WOMAN could wield enough power in a country dominated by Islam at this or perhaps ANY TIME in the future? What was her ultimate objective in destabilizing an already unstable country???

Methinks she WANTED to be considered a 'martyr'. After all, many of the so-called 'suicide bombers' (one of which allegedly did her in) cite 'martyrdom' as their reason for doing what they do. Perhaps it was one of HER OWN people (not the Pakistani government OR 'Al-Quida') who did it-- so she'd be considered a 'martyr' when she met her fate.... If she actually thought she could take over the country-- what foolishness! And if she didn't-- why did she go back? In either case, she truly deserves the title of the Ultimate Fool of 2007. It's a shame no one's cutting through the BS and media spin to get to the heart of a country where 'Women's Liberation' is as foreign a term as 'democracy' and as foreign a term as any term that is not in the Koran or Sharia.

Posted by: Shawn | Dec 27, 2007 2:11:55 PM

Remember, "Its a religion of peace"

Please repeat, and drink more of the Kool Aid

Posted by: Scott Cunningham | Dec 27, 2007 2:12:47 PM

In whatever Country whenever an agent of change arrives,and is not fanatic both sides kill and detroy in one fashion or another,plz check historical refrences since Christ,it's gone mad.

Posted by: bidwist | Dec 27, 2007 2:13:23 PM

Who attempted to assassinate Mussaraff several times and who claimed responsibility for the first assassination attempt on Bhutto when she returned to Pakistan? Leave it to the left to be apologists for terrorists!!!

Posted by: jj | Dec 27, 2007 2:13:50 PM

Typical responses. The Democrats cower in fear and blame Bush because there's no risk in that.

Posted by: John | Dec 27, 2007 2:15:13 PM

Al Gore did it with his made-up claims of Global Warming. He announced today that since he and the other UN loonies cannot pass a child and pet tax upon the citizens of the world, they will instead begin cutting the world population to reduce carbon footprints.

Posted by: Serve | Dec 27, 2007 2:15:27 PM

People are seriously suggestion that the US will invade or get involved in Pakistan's matters because of this?

Posted by: Adam | Dec 27, 2007 2:16:56 PM

Serge are you just being stupid for the sake of trolling? "There is no al Qaeda".... hahaha. Please tell me you're one of the following:

1.) 14 years old
2.) 9/11 conspiracy theorist

Posted by: Adam | Dec 27, 2007 2:18:32 PM

If we elect the likes of H. Clinton we are going to be in a world of hurt.

Posted by: Joe Dodge | Dec 27, 2007 2:20:29 PM

Where are the feminists? She was killed because she was a woman & the muslim al qaida can't stomach that.

If only she had been black and killed because of that - then people would be upset, but because she was only a woman... it's kind of like it's okay.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: blahboy | Dec 27, 2007 2:20:42 PM

If we elect the likes of H. Clinton we are going to be in a world of hurt.

Posted by: Joe Dodge | Dec 27, 2007 2:22:01 PM

AKI or ADN Kronos is not an "obscure news source". They print regular articles in Italian, English, and Arabic. They are not well known here but are a good source of information from Italy. They have new updates on the assassination up.

Posted by: thanos | Dec 27, 2007 2:22:01 PM

Good point PK , allow me to add-no one wants to see their child killed, those in the military are not "kids"-they are highly trained MEN and WOMEN who joined of their own volition(that's "free will" for those reaching for a dictionary).Get it-no draft- joined to defend and protect all under our flag.Number one job of military is still to "kill enemy and break things" as the old saying goes - NOT to play peace corps and just get some money for college-so lets quit the knee-jerk b.s. of pulling heart strings for agendas and look at reality.

Posted by: Rex M | Dec 27, 2007 2:22:16 PM

Bush: “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him. … And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.” [3/13/02]

Posted by: Pamela | Dec 27, 2007 2:23:24 PM

I see that ABC News is following the traditional news receipe:
1 teaspoon fact
1/3 cup of opinion
1/2 cup of blame Bush
1 tablespoon of insinuation
1 pound salt
Fold wrecklessly until appears solid
Pour into mouth of dish
Pour out on cableTV and Internet at continual or once per minute repeat. Beat until Dead.

Posted by: Pete A | Dec 27, 2007 2:23:43 PM

Bush did it?
Global warming?
Pulling strings?
I think one of you that made these type of comments should get on the next plane to the middle-east, so we can get to the bottom of all this

Posted by: Michael K | Dec 27, 2007 2:27:13 PM

"LETS GET REAL" the homeless and unisured in America need taken care of,,,,,, lol ,,,,
when do you get real and get it??

If America doesnt protect itsel and make itself secure first then America doesnt need to worry about the homeless or uninsured in America we/(America) won't exist,,,,,,,

Posted by: demokrat | Dec 27, 2007 2:27:41 PM

Maybe this will shift people's focus back to the GWOT v. a "bad economy" that grew 4.9% last quarter.

Posted by: Gary | Dec 27, 2007 2:27:50 PM

Just another example of how Islamic fundamentalists need to be exterminated.

Posted by: Larry | Dec 27, 2007 2:28:35 PM

Get a grip, the odds of US Solidiers going en-masse into Pakistan make my odds of hitting the lottery look realy good. I can't say I'm in favor of war (nor homicide, rape, extortion,fraud, drug addiction, pollution or any number of things), and certainly not the one in Iraq, but statements like "no more war" are at best inane. A world view condensed to a bumper sticker slogan, with words capitalized as if by doing so will make those who read it, smack their heads with a big "duh" and gasp..now why didn't I think of that.

To all of you, at both ends.."we should bring all the firepower that the U.S. Armed Forces have and unleashed on this terrorist and exterminate them once and for all", please say to yourself over and over ..this is not a movie, this is not a video game..this is the real world with all of it's complexities and shades of grey. In other words
grow up and be an adult

Posted by: Jon | Dec 27, 2007 2:28:43 PM

wow- this sort of attack could be done by anyone anywhere- it really is so sad as Benizir was a lady of remarkable courage and integrity- but it dosnt justify American military involvement. Thats an unpopular position to take I suppose- but last I checked - Pakistan is like this whole other soverein nation- we already have all the utilities, the railroads and Boardwalk- let someone else have Park Place. America needs to get into the habit of sending care baskets and "get well soon " cards and quit imposing our will.

Posted by: jinc | Dec 27, 2007 2:29:31 PM

For real people... Do the lefties really believe we can just leave the middle east alone and they will never pose a problem to us...? Seriously..? I sleep better at night knowing I am not being protected by a democrat. I have an idea for a new club. Democrats for al Qaeda...YAY

Posted by: Ty | Dec 27, 2007 2:30:47 PM

"LETS GET REAL" the homeless and unisured in America need taken care of,,,,,, lol ,,,,
when do you get real and get it??

If America doesnt protect itsel and make itself secure first then America doesnt need to worry about the homeless or uninsured in America we/(America) won't exist,,,,,,,

Posted by: demokrat | Dec 27, 2007 2:31:03 PM

Beau Philips: why don't you enlist to serve your "strong honest and brave" president? Moron.

Posted by: Tom | Dec 27, 2007 2:31:13 PM

"There is no al qaeda, just like there is no woody woodpecker. Someone else draws the pictures, pulls the strings. Wake up."

I love when people end a comment by saying, "Wake up". As if they know something we don't. Your a moron Serge, and the rest of the conspiracy nutbags. And the majority of you Leftists, (not all of you but most of you), are almost just as dumb. Give the Amer-hateing a rest please.

Posted by: Steve | Dec 27, 2007 2:32:34 PM

Come on. There are so many independent armies and political groups in that area it's like the wild west. It could have been any of a number of groups. Lets just hope it doesn't end up like the JFK thing where nobody knows who really di it. I don't know who is behind it but lets just wait and see. Lets just hope this isn't just the lighting of the fuse.

Posted by: the great crusader | Dec 27, 2007 2:32:45 PM

That way, I can go to bed at night and not have to worry about who controls the nukes in Pakistan, because I know in my own, self-loathing, heart of hearts that my evil government is in control of everything. And should another country hate the U.S. for "meddeling" in their affairs, well then they don't really hate me. They just hate the evil leaders of my evil country and know that I am just as much of a victim of their "meddeling" as they are. I would also like to believe that AQ and I really aren't that much different, and that given the opportunity, we could live in harmony side-by-side.

I would also like to believe in the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and the Great Pumpkin. But alas, I guess this is the real world and there is a real evil that wants everyone who is different from them dead.

Posted by: S.A.M. | Dec 27, 2007 2:32:45 PM

time will tell.......

Posted by: scott | Dec 27, 2007 2:33:12 PM

Like Beau Phillips: Indeed the assasination of the liberal-democratic politician in Afganistan preceeded 9/11!
I liked Reader, if indeed a legal fiction giving Waziristan to Pak has expired then byall means either Pak allows NATO in there or the rightful sovereignity of Afgan. will!

Posted by: Brian | Dec 27, 2007 2:33:24 PM

Qui bono? Who benefits? Musharraf? Isn't is to be assumed that the President of Pakistan knows how to "steal" an election from her? He could have bought her off with some kind of coalition government. He did't have to kill her. Plus, the shooter apparently blew himself up. Does that sound like anyone except Al Queda? Does anyone care so much about Musharraf to blow himself up? We are seeing Al Queda clearing the decks of rivals for the LAST assassination, that of Musharraf himself. If he had been killed first, Benezir Bhutto stood to gain from any election. The "last man standing" will be an Islamist. At that point, Ayman Al-Zawahiri may have access to 50 nukes, especially if there is one Islamis who excaped the vetting by Musharraf on the security detail.

Posted by: Joseph McNulty | Dec 27, 2007 2:33:56 PM

This is a sensitive ISI issue and the corresponding changes that they feared would happen if Bhutto got elected.

Posted by: Wazi hussain | Dec 27, 2007 2:34:57 PM

Oh my gosh! You people and your conspiricies. Every time something happen on this planet you think that our government has either: A: did itr or B: is going to use it as an excuse to do some bad. You have all either
a: seen way too many movies. or b: if this is how you think, this is how you would do. Global problems is far more than an old Robert Redford movie.

Posted by: jerry | Dec 27, 2007 2:36:06 PM

Unfortunately Pakistan needs a "civil war" to clean up the tribal areas if it is ever going to be a functioning democracy. You cannot have free or fair elections if some group is sitting on the sidelines intimidating potential candidates and killing the brave that dare oppose them.

Posted by: dave | Dec 27, 2007 2:37:08 PM

Unfortunately Pakistan needs a "civil war" to clean up the tribal areas if it is ever going to be a functioning democracy. You cannot have free or fair elections if some group is sitting on the sidelines intimidating potential candidates and killing the brave that dare oppose them.

Posted by: dave | Dec 27, 2007 2:37:12 PM

Al Quaeda has the Bushies on the run. America has lost control. We will all pay dearly for Bush not taking out Osama and his number 2 when we had the chance. What amazes me is that so many Americans remain so dumb to all of this. Too much NFL football, stock car racing and and evangelical Christianity and not enough critical thought.

Posted by: David Anderson | Dec 27, 2007 2:39:29 PM

John Edwards was right again. "The war on terror is just a bumper sticker."

Posted by: Drew | Dec 27, 2007 2:41:10 PM

John Edwards was right again. "The war on terror is just a bumper sticker."

Posted by: Drew | Dec 27, 2007 2:41:18 PM

To Louis, who says that since the name of al-Quaeda has been invoked, "welcome back to the politics of fear.": Just remember that Ms. Bhutto spoke out against this radical group, too. And as for invading Pakistan, too many Americans now realize that minding the business of other countries and attempting to maintain an absurd number of permanent alliances around the world only put our troops in wooden boxes.

Posted by: Ben Martin | Dec 27, 2007 2:41:31 PM

"A perfect excuse from the White House to enter in Pakistan????? How many american kids will die now? How many troops will be send to Pakistan?? How many mothers will be crying? Please, my friends No more War...no more suffering"

RIGHT. How many mothers will be crying? NONE, because when they bring their suicide bombs over here,THEY WILL ALL BE DEAD! When are you modern day hippies gonna wake up?

Posted by: J F | Dec 27, 2007 2:41:59 PM

She was a brave woman, I'll give her that. Sad, I think Musharif was trying to protect her, now this...he's between a rock and a hard place to be sure. Well, let's just get this all over with and also with Iran...this world is about to explode no matter which way a rational mind looks...we will HAVE to kill Al Qaeda and Iran, it's official now so let's just get it done. We cannot live in a world like this indefinitely. I KNOW we can get Al Qaeda in their caves...Pakistan must now do what it has to to eliminate those cowards and dung.

Posted by: WiseOne | Dec 27, 2007 2:43:52 PM

This is yet another battle in the GLOBAL WAR against Islamic Fascism. (note I did not say "terrorism") Terrorism is a tactic, not an entity to make war against. We must recognise this war for what it is. Political correctness is going to kill us if we do not get it out of our lexicon. We are in a global conflict against Islamic Fascism. They do not deserve, nor should they be granted, any freedoms, exemptions or privileges reserved for religious entities. They have adopted military goals, tactics, weapons and jargon. They are the enemy. The sooner people around the world wrap their feeble brains around these truths, the sooner the world can be rid of this scourge. Until then, expect much more of the same.

Posted by: John M. | Dec 27, 2007 2:44:56 PM

An honorable woman who was dedicated to her people lost her life today. We should remember that instead of trying to pass off all of the garbage that some people are posting on this and other sites.

Posted by: Bin There | Dec 27, 2007 2:46:44 PM

Oh no! The politics of fear! I'm so scared. Morons.

Posted by: FUBAR | Dec 27, 2007 2:51:29 PM

Perhaps the al quaida are just crying out for help. can't anyone pay attention to their need? Surely more love and caring for them, and their destructive ways would vanish away. We should strive more to understand them.

Posted by: Mrs Brown | Dec 27, 2007 2:51:54 PM

Who benefits?
- Musharaf
- al Qaeda
- the Bushies
Musharaf gets one less opponent, and one more scapegoat. Al Qaeda gets their lease on northwest Pakistan renewed. And the Bushies get another excuse to support Musharaf.
Yet another win-win situation, brought to you by all the usual suspects!

Posted by: Phlip | Dec 27, 2007 2:52:10 PM

Dan from Richmond, it isn't Bush's fault, but it does display the failure of interventionist policies. We encouraged her to return, and join with Musharaff in some sort of coalition. And now, large segments of Pakistan think he killed her. Take responsibility for the failures where they apply.

Posted by: MC_ME | Dec 27, 2007 2:52:36 PM

The sooner the baboon/pig extremists are eliminated the better. Kill them and feed them to the wolves

Posted by: Marv | Dec 27, 2007 2:52:37 PM

The people who are responsible for this should be identified, tracked down, apprehended and promptly relocated

Posted by: Bandar Bush | Dec 27, 2007 2:52:39 PM

Is Bush going to get his 'World War 3'? Looking at the above comments, it is likely he will, that is right - just after the 'Civil War 2' expires between the Republicans and the Democrats.

Posted by: Terry | Dec 27, 2007 2:54:17 PM

I think Bush did it!!! LOL - stupid libs... I say get as many al q terrorists as we can and torture the hell out of them to find out what their plans are. Or shoot them, whatever...

Posted by: CEK | Dec 27, 2007 2:58:06 PM

This is a major turning point for the USA and the World with its fight against Terror. It only took them 2 tries to assasinate this great leader.
What is next? I hope the Nukes are protected.....

Posted by: jimmyh | Dec 27, 2007 2:58:20 PM

This is the fault of George Bush. His personal War on Terror is directly linked to this poor, innocent woman's death. She is just another victim to his megalomania. The United States should immediately disarm all of its armed forces and withdraw them back to the United States. Once the mujahedin see that we are no threat they will stop defending themselves and the war will be over. Only by unilateral disarmament can we avoid further bloodshed.

Posted by: Atlanta Don | Dec 27, 2007 2:58:24 PM

Until the Moslem world takes responsibility for their own, why should we make the world safe for hypocrisy? The main stream Arab world has much more to lose than us if the radicals take over. If you want these people to be like us as well; as the russians, give them a credit card and let them get into debt so they can go to work everyday and have less lofty ideals to worry about!

Posted by: bruce spivey | Dec 27, 2007 2:59:12 PM

Is anyone wondering why when these suicide attacks and terrorists strikes happen, "No muslims or muslim communities stand up and say this is pure evil and wrong and that Islam does not teach this."

Posted by: rlb | Dec 27, 2007 2:59:44 PM

WiseOne: Excellent! I think you have pinned the tail on the Donkey!!!!!!!
It is a shame that people will rush to say it was George Bush or another reason to invade Pakistan or placing doubt upon our governments ability to be objective. Get out of your mind set people. This fascists do not think or hold the same values as we do and when you realize that you will see the truth. This people want to destroy our way of life and will not stop.

Posted by: Lasapere | Dec 27, 2007 3:01:17 PM

It has yet to be proven who did this. Yes, Al Queada tried to assassinate her in October of this year. Yes, she' been killed now. That does not mean that they did it. Both sides stand to gain by her death. Ayman al Zawahri, and Al Queada gain the advance of their fascist militant cause wrapped in a Muslim flag, while the now "civilian" leader Pervez Musharraf looks like the only clear alternative against the fascist, al Zawahri.

They both stand to gain by Banazir Bhutto's death.
This was a bank shot by both sides with 20 lives destroyed by the hatred of them all.

Posted by: MazzStudio | Dec 27, 2007 3:01:18 PM

Here we go. Terrorism..al Qaeda..ect.
Who benefits from Bhuttos death..bin Laden? I doubt it.

If the threat of terror against Americans is so great in Pakistan, why did we give them $10 Billion and watch this obvious conclusion to Bhuttos return happen?

Posted by: BOB-FLQ | Dec 27, 2007 3:03:54 PM

I think its odd that Bhutto was targeted twice and it was close the first time and Musharref appears to be very safe. If he is safe, why wasnt Bhutto safe, think about that.

Posted by: Steve Brogan | Dec 27, 2007 3:05:17 PM

This is a tragic blow to the democracy of Pakistan. My heart goes out to the Bhutto family and to the people of Pakistan. I am not so sure Musharraf had a hand in this; I am inclined to believe it is more likely the extremely radical Islamism. Regarding these conspiracy theorist, most of us know that such tragic incidents like this are like a gift to the conspiracy logician. Truthfulness and reason never enter into their theory. Unfortunately you will see many of them quickly leap on this tragedy and endeavor to use it as evidence that our government is implicated in some way.

Posted by: Bill | Dec 27, 2007 3:06:29 PM

"ok, this has all the signs of crap. No matter what comes out now, AlQueada has been associated with this."

Did you really think, that after an attack of this magnitude that al Qaeda wouldnt be a likely suspect?? Is that comment a joke? Come on guys. I know Bush isnt a favorite, but cant we be just a little realistic? Is that to much to ask?

Posted by: James | Dec 27, 2007 3:06:43 PM

Assassinating a Woman? Killing someone who was trying to bring "Peace" or change to a country to make life better for a 3rd/4th World country (that has Nuclear Weapons too for God's Sake!)
How many more morally reprehensible Car Bombs (That kill women and children, elderly and innocent bystanders), Assassinations by gun, beheading of innocent civillians and...god forbid...Chemical or Dirty Bomb attacks in the future (which WILL happen eventually) do we have to put up with?

Posted by: Arcangel | Dec 27, 2007 3:08:28 PM

The Russians know this kind very well and say it could trigger other acts in other countries. Will they party like it's 1999 this weekend?

Posted by: MIKE I | Dec 27, 2007 3:09:38 PM

Dito Mr Abu Akbar, I second that. Eid Mumbarak. People, wake up It's not Bush, It's Al Qeida the Evil Organisation, That killed Bhutto, She was more of a danger to them than President Pervez Musharraf ever was, and we should keep a keen eye on Mr. Nawaz Sharif, He has ties to Al geida. May Peace arrive soon to Pakistan.

Posted by: AdeebN. | Dec 27, 2007 3:09:39 PM

Welcome to WW3

Posted by: Dave | Dec 27, 2007 3:13:24 PM

Bhutto had a death wish and the Bush Administration was willing to assist her in assuring that it happened. There has been 9 attempts to kill Pres. Musharraf and he has the power of the military behind him. Certainly, Bhutto, not having such power behind her and a challenge to Pres. Musharraf was doomed the day she decided to re-enter Pakistan and run for Prime Minister.

Because of the failure of the Bush policies we have the slaughter in Somalia, the slaughter in Iraq, the murder of Bhutto, the fighting between Hamas and Fatah in Palestine, the fighting between Turkey and the Kurds in Northern Iraq...... We also have China rejecting docking of U.S. Kittyhawk in Hong Kong. We have the Japanese refusing to refuel American ships and planes in the Indian Ocean, and on this very day, Japan and China establishing new relations with Japan's leader in China. We have an impending collapse of the American financial system...... A failed American coup against Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez that made him more popular and powerful. The 1600 Lebanese killed by Israeli attacks spurred on by the Bush Administration. I can go on and on.

HOPE? The hope is that we get rid of the Bush clan, the ugliness of the Republican Party's arrogance and going along with the Bush Administration.

Posted by: westthea | Dec 27, 2007 3:14:34 PM

What's the solution to this? Is it more attacks on the terrorists? That seems to unite them more than ever. I really think we need to take a wholistic approach to our foreign policy and quit supporting countries that essentially allow this type of extremism to spread in an attempt to maintain strict control (i.e. Saudi's, insert middle-eastern country here). Lefties will tie in Bush (it's more than Bush...it's our entire foreign policy for more than half a century). The Righties will say that we need more war (that doesn't really seem to helping much, or is this headline a mistake). I think we are in dire need of a moderate, and not just the US...the whole world.

Posted by: Wade | Dec 27, 2007 3:16:57 PM

Wise One is correct. The Islamics have been fighting this war ever since Carter abandoned the Shah.

Posted by: floridafield | Dec 27, 2007 3:17:00 PM

"ok, this has all the signs of crap. No matter what comes out now, AlQueada has been associated with this. Welcome back to the politics of fear. Next, we will hear how someone admitted of this plot under torture and that if we had been allowed to be more aggressive with it we might have found something out sooner."

In fact, not only was al qaeda not involved (after all, they are a peace loving organization), the whole thing never happened. Bush made it all up. More politics of fear.

Posted by: Deacon | Dec 27, 2007 3:17:42 PM

"There is no al qaeda, just like there is no woody woodpecker. Someone else draws the pictures, pulls the strings. Wake up."

When that nobody manages to blow something up that kills someone YOU care about, maybe then YOU will wake up. Not everything is a figment of the CIA's imagination. Regardless of whether you can bring yourself around to believing that Al Qaeda is real, they definitely are managing to recruit an awful lot of young people who are willing to commit acts of violence in their name. Even if Bin Laden is an actor paid for by uncle sam(which he's most definitely not), he's started a landslide of anti-west murderers who will be relentlessly trying to screw things up until someone shows them definitively how bad an idea that is.

Posted by: pete | Dec 27, 2007 3:19:39 PM

Musharef placed Bhutto under house arrest in November because she was intent on going to a Rawalpini rally then, and he could not guarantee her security then. I guess we know why now!

This has all the earmarks of Al Qaeda, and will probably prove out that way.

Those of you that insist that this is "Bush's" fault, need to put down the koolaid, double up the meds, and try, realy try, to think clearly.

Al Qaeda's intent is to disrupt the world as a whole. They mean to estroy all "non-believers"...meaning all of us! They don't want to be our friends, they don't want to go to dinner, they want to dominate....it's just that simple.

Wake up America....it's staring us right in the face. Al Qaeda intends to kill us...they don't want to be warm and fuzzy! And for gods sake, try to be at least a little informed before writing in a forum like this, lest you show your incredible ignorance to us all!

Posted by: KB | Dec 27, 2007 3:20:13 PM

Sad day. We need to wake up and understand what the free world is up against. The islamist fascist want to destroy all democracies. We were right to to into Iraq. There is no such thing as man made global warming. The media is just a sounding board for liberal nut jobs, that is wrong with this world and rarely tells the truth.

Posted by: Eric M | Dec 27, 2007 3:23:32 PM

We as americans don't really have to fight another war..They are blowing themselves up and its great..saves us bullets..give it 10 years and thier won't be any one left and we can go build a Mall and a Parking lot..

Posted by: Momo | Dec 27, 2007 3:24:26 PM


And what would having done nothing accomplished? We went through 8 years of the Clinton administration doing nothing, in deed turning a blind eye too the activities of Al Qaeda. We got 9-11 for our non-interventionist thinking! At least Bush was trying to do something to stabilize a seriously disfunctional part of the world!

Posted by: KB | Dec 27, 2007 3:25:24 PM

Remember the dark sky and burning flames falling? Remember the end of the Bible?
This from someone who doesn't go to church but it sure rings of 666. It will begin, or continue, if AQ gets the nukes....It will be all over. Remember "Fate of the Earth" book? Read it. Of course, it was an inside job. They didn't want a woman.
Just like you all, here, in the US, not wanting Hillary. We need a woman with brains and brawn. Good luck to Hillary.
Only she can save us.

Posted by: PattyRenee | Dec 27, 2007 3:25:53 PM

WE ALL KNOW that Bush lied about his illegal war in Iraq and that is the only reason congress was fooling into using Karl Rove's illegal weather machine to destroy New Orleans. And if Halliburton hadn't lied and used tax payer money to hire BlackWater to secretely train Quakers to look like Arabs and carry out suicide bombings the whole world would be gum drop sugar plumb heaven. Aren't liberals swell.

Posted by: Patti O'Riley | Dec 27, 2007 3:27:58 PM

Steve Brogan,

Actually, Musharref has been the target of 9 attempts....or did we just forget that little bit of information?

Posted by: KB | Dec 27, 2007 3:29:02 PM

Interestingly, WatchingAmerica has just posted a story from Pakistan about the fact that the U.S. is expanding its military presence there.

Posted by: Robin | Dec 27, 2007 3:29:34 PM

Al Qaeda is the likely culprit, but Musharraf likely looked the other way too. Least we forget, Musharraf is a dictator and the sole beneficiary of Bhutto's assassination. Now he can consolidate power again and rule wit an iron fist. Musharraf's claims of fighting extremists have always been suspect. He arrests his political opponents, but allows radical extremists to roam free. Musharraf is not to be trusted.

Posted by: Erik | Dec 27, 2007 3:30:06 PM

The Jihadists probably did (Al Queda or related group). They have the most to gain. They make Musharraf look bad (i.e. can't control the country or he takes some blame because he couldn't protect her). And the extremist will look to fill a power vacuum. Unfortunately, many intl. liberals are dumb to comprehend this.

Posted by: Earl | Dec 27, 2007 3:30:40 PM

Hillary will fix this in one week. Hillary for president. Send Bush back to his ranch in Texas.

Posted by: DavidLibertini | Dec 27, 2007 3:31:10 PM

You people who blame George Bush for everything are truly pathetic, but I guess your hatred for Bush is a great excuse for your ignorance of world events. You interpret everything that happens through that lens. You seem to know nothing about history, specifically Islamic history. Yes, you can postulate that "if only America would be nice to them and not support Israel" they would stop. Most neighborhood bullies, once given their way, only bully more. The only way to stop them is to stand together against them. These people do not only want the destruction of Israel, they want the destruction of the west.

Posted by: steve | Dec 27, 2007 3:32:37 PM

Louis might want to read a bit of history about the roots of radical Islam. His lack of historical perspective is quite palpable.


Posted by: Bill | Dec 27, 2007 3:34:15 PM

The grassy knoll, faked moon landings, the destruction of the levee's in New Orleans to eradicate the poor black folk, the controlled demolition of the towers on 9/11 and now the Bhutto killing. Any moron can see that this is the work of the same Satan that has single handedly cause the destruction of the planet from CO2 emissions.



For someone so inarticulate he sure does get around.

Posted by: Brian | Dec 27, 2007 3:34:36 PM

Yeah right. The media screwed the troops in Vietnam. We werew really doing great. We were about to vanquish the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese army. We sure had the hearts and minds of the Vietnamese. The revisionist version of Vietnam is such nonsense. We could still be there and it would not be a vistory. Get real

Posted by: Al Fullmore | Dec 27, 2007 3:34:58 PM

For all those conspiracy nuts claiming this mass murder is a US plan to help the CIA and the "Politics of Fear," you must learn your history. Terrorism is the politics of fear. Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. This is their attempt to silence the moderate Muslims who want peace in the area and to throw these terrorists out of Pakistan. Bhutto was campaigning on a policy of being tougher on Al Qaeda and the Taliban than Musharraf, not weaker.

Why would the Bush administration want to silence the "moderates" who want to destroy Al Qaeda? If Bhutto had won next months election, it would have been a major coup for the Bush policy in South Asia. Perhaps the largest since the overthrow of the Taliban after 9-11. Before you start talking about conspiracy, you might want to consider reality and learn something about your subject. There are more things happening around the world than what the "Bush-haters" make up on the blogs.

Posted by: C F Tab | Dec 27, 2007 3:35:56 PM

The telling fact is that the killer blew himself up. How do you convince someone to blow themselves up to help a US supporting secular leader like Musharraf? Answer you don’t. This means the killer had larger/”higher” than political motive. I think the bomber had to believe he was moving on to something greater and would be rewarded for his actions, which leads me to Islamic terrorists. The security forces would have been more exacting and would have cut out any chance of human error, they would have planted a bomb where she would be standing, Syria has used that process very successfully lately and is the way a well organized and disciplined organization would carry out such actions. There can’t be someone(the bomber) who can be traced back to the source. So I believe it had to be Islamic terrorists plain and simple.

I certainly hope AQ claims this, celebrates it and proves they were behind it. It might just be a Hariri moment for them and could start an Afghan/Iraqi-like Awakening. First AQI felt the brunt of a backlash from Iraqi Sunnis and Iran has felt the backlash from Shites in Iraq. Now maybe the Islamic whack-jobs in Pakistan will feel the backlash.

Posted by: RobX | Dec 27, 2007 3:37:28 PM

This will be traced to the ISI and those Islamist sympathizers in the ISI. These are the same people who want Pervez dead too....

Posted by: Scott | Dec 27, 2007 3:37:31 PM

Norma, These radical Muslims will slit your throat, your children's throat, and any of your loved ones if left on their own. They will come to America. They have shown no consideration for "compassionate" torture. There is no reasoning with them, there is no appeasement except for us to die. Now is not the time to say that we do not want to resist and just leave us alone. They will come to us if left to their own. Our government, no matter what we believe about it, is our only defender and it needs to be set loose to protect. No hand tying, no compassionate torture, no congressional sabotage, no treason by our so called congressional leaders. And believe in God!

Posted by: Mark | Dec 27, 2007 3:38:16 PM

It has yet to be proven who did this.

Yes, Al Queada tried to assassinate her in October of this year. Yes, she' been killed now. That does not mean that they did it. Both sides stand to gain by her death. Ayman al Zawahri, and Al Queada gain the advance of their fascist militant cause wrapped in a Muslim flag, while the now "civilian" leader Pervez Musharraf looks like the only clear alternative against the fascist, al Zawahri.

They both stand to gain by Banazir Bhutto's death.
This was a bank shot by both sides with 20 lives destroyed by the hatred of them all.

I'm hoping that this does focus on our leaders in the up-coming American election.
I'm ready for new leadership, someone who can bring clear vision along the lines of President John F. Kennedy. I'm sick of this Democratic vs. Republican division of WE THE PEOPLE. There is a leader who will actually look at the situation and discuss it like an adult. No knee-jerk responses...

Please think of how he reacted about invading another country without real information and independent confirmation of sources. Yes, that's Barak Obama.

Ms. Banazir Bhutto and your followers, I will mourn for you and Pakistan's lost future.

Posted by: MazzStudio | Dec 27, 2007 3:39:17 PM

Tom says "Beau Philips: why don't you enlist to serve your "strong honest and brave" president? Moron."

Typical chickenhawk argument from a typical chicken liberal. Hey, Tom, I got six years in, and I never saw many libs or dems wearing uniforms. Why do you think Al Gore wanted all the military absentee ballots in Florida discounted? He knew who those miltary votes were for.

You libs are something else. You think patriotism is pouring concrete on railroad tracks outside the Olympia military base, or splattering red paint on recruiting offices, or trashing the votes of the brave men and women in uniform without whom there wouldn't BE a democratic electoral system.

If you're patriots, you're the same patriotic souls as Benedict Arnold, who thought he was doing his country a favor by betraying it.

Personally, I'm with Patton, You're nothing but a coward. You'd rather live on your knees than die on your feet. Chickenhawk!

Posted by: JohnnyT | Dec 27, 2007 3:39:32 PM

It is time for an American version of the Israeli Masada Plan. Pull all our troops and financial support back and put them on our borders. Make our borders so tight a rabbit could'nt get through. Also fully develop our anti-missle technology and upgrade our air and satellite traffic tracking. Then tell our enemies if ANYONE attacks us again we will bomb ALL OF THEM into the stone age with conventional and nuclear weapons no matter who did it. The 90% of our enemies who would not attack us directly would turn on the 10% who will out of desperation to survive.

Posted by: Mick | Dec 27, 2007 3:39:36 PM

I would like to apologize to the Pakistanis for all the inane and provincial comments on this board. You have suffered a major loss to democracy and have been thrust into another crisis. We will keep you in our hearts and prayers.
To the rest of you, this is not all about us.

Posted by: PatL | Dec 27, 2007 3:41:42 PM

Man Made Global Warming is Self Correcting.

Posted by: Christopher Ganiere | Dec 27, 2007 3:42:35 PM

In reference to Louis' comment...

Wow...a lot of idiots posting how this was done by "bush", or "america". I love how you guys think, really. Americans have too many freedoms. I only say this because too many stupid people claim too many stupid things...

Posted by: Chase | Dec 27, 2007 3:43:05 PM

Hmm, spend a trillion dollars on the destruction of Iraq, but the 9/11 perp is still doing Shrubs dirty work. Shrubs legacy will be the goat herder that couldn't be caught.

Posted by: R.J. | Dec 27, 2007 3:43:42 PM

It's a shame so many in the USA have their heads buried in the sand. Muslims only want death for us and anyone that is our friend.

Posted by: Pete | Dec 27, 2007 3:44:41 PM

DavidL says "Hillary will fix this in one week."

I take it that is satire, David, but if not, DUH! The world was just as screwed a place (if not moreso) after EIGHT YEARS of her husband running things.

Maybe if he was chasing Al Qaeda instead of skirts since the first WTC attack, we wouldn't be dealing with this sh*t now.

That said, maybe Hillary WOULD make a good President. What other candidate is as Machiavellian in connivance, or as vindictive as hell? You see what she's
doing to Obama. Imagine what she'd do to bin Laden! Take no prsioners and take no ####, she's the girl for me!

Posted by: JohnnyT | Dec 27, 2007 3:44:57 PM

Hey "Atlanta Don" | Dec 27, 2007 2:58:24 PM

I tell you what will really work, rather than disarmament and retreat - why don't we convert to conservative Islam and take away women's rights and driver's licenses. If we then murder all infidels, homosexuals, liberals and destroy all non-Koranic writings, paintings, movies and tv shows, plus execute that made them -then we will live in peace.

Posted by: C F Tab | Dec 27, 2007 3:45:54 PM

Hmmmm...So Al Qaeda whacks the only real threat to Pervez Musharraf's continued dictatorial hold on the reins of power in Pakistan. Could that mean that Al Qaeda favors havin Musharraf retain power there? Could it be because he's been so nonchalant about the presence of Al Qaeda in Pakistan? George Bush sure knows how to pick his friends! Like the Saudis, for example. Let's not forget that the suicide hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi. Let's not forget that the Saudis were (or are) the Talibans biggest financial supporters. let's not forget that the Musharraf government is the biggest operational supporter of the Taliban. Let's not forget that the Taliban protected Osama bin-Laden after 9/11. I don't like connecting the dots. It leads to scary things.

Posted by: Deadeye Dick Cheney | Dec 27, 2007 3:50:12 PM

Yes, this is an absolutely perfect reason for the United States to enter Pakistan. In fact, we should've been there a while back combing the northern border to Afghanistan.

As for your comment about young people dying - someone's gotta fight the good fight, and it won't be cowards like you. Mothers crying? Mothers have cried for their sons going off to fight since the Revolutionary War. Why is now any different?

And as for "No more war...no more suffering," do you understand that the terrorists won't just go away? They won't be happy until they've killed every single one of the non-islamic infidels. They're irrational, stubborn, and too diluted to understand the concept of a truce, or a compromise. They're here for blood and they won't stop until they have it. So are we to just sit back and not fight? So mothers won't cry? I wonder how many mothers cried when they lost their husbands, brothers, sons, and fathers on September 11th. It seems too many people forgot about that day...

Either pick up a rifle, or put on a turban...doesn't matter to me, just pick a side.

Posted by: Sgt USMC | Dec 27, 2007 3:57:26 PM

How long has AQ been talking about some sort of "Big Action"? Was this it, or is more to come?

Mark Penn advising Bhutto of course Hillary will come out smelling like a rose now what will the Repubs do? Can any of them appear strong enough to take on this challenge. Once again the Clintonites will use this terrible story to further their political gains.

Posted by: stephansdad | Dec 27, 2007 4:00:51 PM

It makes one wonder if any of these countries can stop the Holy Warrior faction from taking over. The crazies are going to fight for Pakistan. They are being beaten in Iraq. They are trying to make a comeback in Afghanistan. Anyone who thinks this is not one war is obviously mistaken. This woman is a true martyr giving her life to fighting these extremists. How can anyone believe that America and the rest of the world can move forward and get better with this threat out there and dead serious? Today has shifted me in the direction Of Guiliani as a favorite for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Lynn | Dec 27, 2007 4:01:58 PM

It is time we invited Al Qaida to sit down and peacefully discuss how we can get them to change their ways, maybe over a good meal. Once we have them in a calm, peaceful setting, we can quietly and diplomatically probe them for knowlege to help us understand how we can be of service to them.

Posted by: DJI | Dec 27, 2007 4:03:10 PM

Anthony - Get a grip man. "Mussaraff assassinated Bhutto. He's the only one that can gain by her death. He had help maybe from these other groups, but he ordered the hit so she would not defeat him in the Jan. 2008 elections." Hate to burst your bubble man, but she wasn't even running against him. He's the president. She was running for Prime Minister.

Posted by: RangerBob | Dec 27, 2007 4:09:10 PM

For all those wbho so enjoy blaming Bush and Conservatives for every act of violence by these Islamo-Fascists, kindly explain why these attacks have been getting more numerous and more severe with each passing year for over 30 years now?

And for those blaming Islam, why is it that, when Christianity was going through it's spasm of radicalism during the Dark Ages, the Muslim controlled areas of the world were the light of knowledge and refuge to those persecuted by the Church?

I'm reminded of the criticism and ridicule Churchill underwent as he tried to warn of the dangers posed by Hitler, and the praise heaped upon Chamberlain as he declared "Peace in our times!" as he waved a piece of worthless paper around.

Posted by: CoquiDave | Dec 27, 2007 4:12:30 PM

There must be some way to pin this on Bush. Democrats will try. Believe it. As deadly and repugnant as the terrorists are, they actually come across quite well when held up along side the democrats in this country. Terrorists are what they are, and all the world can see what that is. Democrats don't have the decency to line up alongside our military and present a united front to our enemies. All that matters to them is to get Bush, take power, and advance the one-world socialist agenda. I gag when I hear one talk about how much they support the military. The American left and the terrorists are the same enemy. They just have different roles.

Posted by: Richard Young | Dec 27, 2007 4:12:48 PM

I apologize, my previous comment was to be directed towards norma, not maryo.

Posted by: Sgt USMC | Dec 27, 2007 4:16:30 PM

Only a Nobel Laureate can rescue the world from our collective morass.

Albert Gore, Jr. -- where are you?

The world needs you. Help us now!

Board that 737, fly somewhere and save us all from global warming!

Posted by: Angienius | Dec 27, 2007 4:19:09 PM

What are these ignorant people talking about? Don’t they know that the six billion people who don’t live in USA also have a point-of-view?

Posted by: Tom | Dec 27, 2007 4:19:43 PM

Has anyone but me noticed that when we hear from Osama bin-Laden it's always on a scratchy audio tape, while his number two guy is always on high quality video with great sound and even special effects? That and the fact that these two are said to be hiding in the same place has got to make a reasonable person conclude that the head goat herder has been dead or dying for a long time now. Why the acception of the deception?

Posted by: RangerBob | Dec 27, 2007 4:20:26 PM

It is amazing how the first comment on this was someone positing some sort of conspiracy. People are so reflexively anti-Bush and anti-the war on terror, that they don't stop to realize the Al Qaida is real, despises the west, despises democracy and enjoys killing innocent people. Sure we don't know the whole story yet, but it is far more likely that this was an AQ operation than any sort of conspiracy.

Posted by: SFB | Dec 27, 2007 4:21:46 PM

Damn. If only Billy-boop was still president, we could be sure of the perps
being hunted down and brought to justice.

Posted by: Dennis | Dec 27, 2007 4:21:47 PM

"Please, my friends No more War...no more suffering."

If you think that pulling out of Iraq will stop this war, then you are sadly mistaken. The only thing that will stop this war is if we defeat the enemy. The appeasers in Britain tried to avoid a minor war by letting Hitler have the Sudetenland. Instead, they set themselves up for World War II.

You appeasers just do not understand.

Posted by: Michael McCullough | Dec 27, 2007 4:24:59 PM

I used to think those in the media commenting on big news stories were idiots...but after reading some of these posts, I'll be kinder to them from now on. The fact that some of you are voters gives me shivers.

Posted by: Mike | Dec 27, 2007 4:26:39 PM

This is a tragedy for all of us. Who has the most to benefit from this? The answer is Al Queda. They did not want a US friendly, Al Queda bashing woman in charge of the strongest Islamic country in the world.

What scares me worse than this is some of these posts from people with room temperature IQ's who are sitting in their parents homes using some one elses computer and spouting pure crap.

God help us.

Posted by: Jim G. | Dec 27, 2007 4:28:39 PM

Wow! The conspiracy nuts posting here would feel right at home in Pakistan.

Bhutto was threatened by Al Quaalude 2 months ago! I suppose Bush did that, too?

What's that I hear? Black helicopters landing on a grassy knoll outside your trailers! Put on your foil hats and run...Run...RUN!

Posted by: Bob | Dec 27, 2007 4:29:39 PM

There is a good chance democrats will take control of the US in 2008. Can you imagine a world like this with a weak America that bows down to the enemies of the civilized world? Yeah. We're screwed.

Posted by: Decent Person | Dec 27, 2007 4:29:45 PM

How can a country that is shackled by the Constitution possibly win against an enemy with no rules? It's just simple logic. If we no longer exist as a nation, then who is there to promote democracy? It's time to temporarily suspend the Constitution. This battle can't be hobbled by Congressional Investigating Committees, the ACLU, etc.

Posted by: Ken | Dec 27, 2007 4:33:46 PM

All Democrats Unite! The evil Bush will use this as a pretext for more war. We cannot let him wage war against al Queda. We must elect John Edwards and protect al Queda from the Republicans. Do not torture terrorists! Who cares if they kill innocents! Hillary, please protect Osama! Please end global warming! If it were not for global warming, and American foreign policy, al Queda would not exist! Democrats unite!

Posted by: Dave | Dec 27, 2007 4:35:43 PM

"Bush even said Bin Laden wasn't a worry to him....but then every time they want to continue the war in Iraq they bring up Al Queda."

Um, I hate to bring reality to your fantasy world, but al-Qaeda is much, much more than just bin Laden. If bin Laden is still alive, he's holed up in a cave somewhere and able to do very little. Judging from the quality of the videos and audio, he's not exactly relaxing in some urban neighborhood.

No one wants to continue this war. If Bush wanted popularity, he would have pulled out the troops. But you liberals cannot understand the concept of standing firm in the face of adversity.

Sudan twice offered to extradite bin Laden and Clinton twice refused. Our lack of retaliation against al-Qaeda emboldened them. Even bin Laden said that, when he saw Clinton withdraw the troops out of Somalia after a few American casualties, he felt that America was weak and could be attacked without fear of retribution.

Posted by: Michael McCullough | Dec 27, 2007 4:36:02 PM

Looking at these comments from liberals I see they STILL have not learned anything from 9-11. Dont worry liberals and terrorist supporters American conservatives are used no support from the left. (and we still win)

Posted by: Larry | Dec 27, 2007 4:37:23 PM

Few news outlets have pointed out this bit of irony I reported earlier today at Bob McCarty Writes™ (BobMcCarty.com): "The Pakistan People's Party, under the leadership of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, used a news release yesterday to announce it had turned to the Internet to raise funds for the party's efforts to win parliamentary elections in January 2008." To read the full post, visit Bob McCarty Writes™ at BobMcCarty.com.

Posted by: Bob | Dec 27, 2007 4:37:26 PM

Sorry Anthony, my previous post should have been addressed to Doreen. She's the one who exhibited little or no knowledge of what is going on in Pakistan.

Posted by: RangerBob | Dec 27, 2007 4:38:35 PM

So— let us extend the smiling hand of friendship to all nations and be like, uh, friends or something?

Posted by: popeye | Dec 27, 2007 4:40:25 PM

The real threat here, and weapon, is religion. Never would have happened without it.

Posted by: leon | Dec 27, 2007 4:43:16 PM

When I heard this news about Bhutto, I wondered: how long till the left-wingers blame this on Bush? Well, I read your reader's responses, and there it is. They are already doing it. If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.

Posted by: Doug | Dec 27, 2007 4:44:50 PM

This is a sad day for women's rights in the Muslim world, for Bhutto was the first woman leader of a Muslim country.

If some of these Muslim extremists would honor the history of Islam, they would recognize that in the early years of Islam during the time of Mohammed (Peace be upon him) in some wars women fought along side men, and that his wife Khadijah was a huge support in the spreading of Islam.

Also, Islam strongly prohibits suicide.

I also need to share with Christians and remind some Muslims that Jesus (Peace be upon him) was the only person to be totally taken over by the Spirit, and that he (some say someone like him) will return. Mother Mary (Peace be upon her) is also highly regarded in Islam. Islam also recognizes all of the Old Testament (or Hebrew Scriptures {Tanakh}, if you're Jewish) prophets.

Islam, Christianity, and Judaism (listed from youngest to oldest religions) have so much in common - they are all monotheistic cousins!

(If you're wondering, I'm a Christian male.)

Posted by: Lamarr | Dec 27, 2007 4:44:59 PM

People, connect the dots: 9/11 and all proceeding events up to Bhutto's assassination were as a result of the US forcing the removal of the confederate (rebel) flag from the perch of southern state capitals. As a formerly french owned territory, Perisians were incensed upon the removal of a flag they have historically kept near and dear to their collective heart. As a result the french leadership joined other countries like Germany to engage in a covert oil-for-food program with Saddam Hussein who, ironically, was a silent owner in the Texas Rangers during the same time that George W. Bush (the same) was a minority of the Rangers. Coincidence? Hardly! Come on, figure it out! Sammy Sosa did it.

Posted by: Charlie | Dec 27, 2007 4:50:30 PM

@Tom: Ya they also think this assasination by terrorists was evil.
What the hell does that mean?
Don't they know...first it's more like
5.8 billion (300+ million current US residents). Second YES. We (Americans)
know others have a point of view. Will acknowledging that raise Bhutto from the dead? Nice little saying that has no connection to what happened.

Posted by: Tom Michaelson | Dec 27, 2007 4:51:48 PM

Good lord... please lets all lay down and become a victim. There is no turning back, once you decide to protect what is yours and your belief you see it through regardless of cost, simply because leaving unfinished business is far more costly. Al Qaeda and the taliban need to be exterminated... they hold no value to the human race. And do not contribute any positive actions or emotions to society.

Posted by: al | Dec 27, 2007 4:53:54 PM

I think regardless of who did what, thanks to the media frenze, the actual truth will never be told. Media whores and propaghandists will have you believe what ever they want. "Truth" lies in the hands of the media, and I would not even SPIT on those hands.

Posted by: Republi-cant | Dec 27, 2007 4:54:00 PM

Tom makes some great points about bin Laden. I saw a video several months ago that was purported to be recently of bin Laden, but at a point when he was talking about current events, the video froze but the audio kept going - either the fakery was low budget or somebody doesn't think Westerners are smart enough to notice...

Did you know that an obituary for Osama bin Laden appeared in an Egyptian newspaper (in Arabic) years ago? I recall that it was published in 2002 or 2003. It could have been a deception, or it could have been legitimate - kinda makes you wonder.

Posted by: Lamarr | Dec 27, 2007 4:56:14 PM

All I know is ..... at the end of the day, when we all lay our heads down to sleep, Bush lied - People died! When there's no clear cut way of explaining something, anything, just do like the Liberal ####### in the United States do.
Just blame George Bush. You got a bad haircut ... Bush lied people died. Your favorite team lost another game ... Bush lied people died.

Posted by: Average Joe | Dec 27, 2007 5:00:43 PM

Islamic fundamentalists are not zombies. They are not "here for blood" and its not like "they won't stop until they have it." Its not a demonic pleague that we can stop by burning the corpses of the unstoppable living dead. That would be a problem many militaries would have welcomed. Instead we are dealing with a determined and really ###### off group of faithful people that the US, as well as others, have been pokeing with a big stick for decades now, building army bases all over the world were they do not belong. See the differences betweeen them and the undead? Lets stop looking at them as if they want to eat all America's collective brains and address this war on a different level.

Posted by: TarHeel | Dec 27, 2007 5:00:59 PM

She says "It was Musharrif".

Posted by: ROBinDALLAS | Dec 27, 2007 5:01:25 PM

Folks, I dont know what will happen now in Pakistan but I do know that when this all shakes out, it will either be very good for the US (Good Muslims take on Al Qaeda and win) or very bad where we have no choice but to push the button first.

However I've seen no discussion of the US/India joint miltary plan to go into Pakistan to secure nukes if things get too wild.

My gut feel is that Al Qaeda will be running into Afganistan very quickly because too many people in Pakistan will now come looking for them for revenge.

Posted by: BigJoe | Dec 27, 2007 5:03:38 PM


Just a reminder to the neocons who are hoping Bush will do something similar and attempt to stay in power indefinately. The President cannot declare martial law (suspension of habeas corpus). Only Congress is given that authority and they may only declare martial law in areas where there is no functioning civilian court (Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. 2 1866).

Posted by: news across the neocon empire | Dec 27, 2007 5:07:56 PM

Take away their gods, and they will just blow themselves up.

Posted by: leon | Dec 27, 2007 5:11:19 PM

This was most likely done by Al Qaeda to spark a civil war in Pakistan very similar to the civil war in Iraq at the very beginning of the war. Once they realized who the real enemy was, they started kicking Al Qaeda out of their country. Al Qaeda and all of the terrorists who are part of this movement are taking the war to Pakistan now. Of course, the Left and the media in this country will say alot of what you all have said. "...Just another excuse for Bush to wage war..." Blah Blah Blah! If not George Bush, it would be another president regardless of party affiliation. They are all aware of the danger that a de-stabilized Pakistan poses for the world and it's economy.

Posted by: John | Dec 27, 2007 5:14:03 PM

If we are pointing the finger at Marsharif..I quess it might be considered he used HOUSE ARREST to allow the planning of this terrible terrorist act...Pres. Bush is correct about the cowardly act..I hope he stands tall on banning DICTATORSHIPS.

Posted by: Mark S. M. | Dec 27, 2007 5:16:04 PM

Bush lied, this woman died!

Posted by: Big Al | Dec 27, 2007 5:16:14 PM

Miss Bhutto had bigger ##### than most men. All women should protest by letting their hair down.

Posted by: Biggdogg236 | Dec 27, 2007 5:17:08 PM

Way past time to put a huge foot up Al-Qootie's back side, Let's kick some booty while he still have a president in office with a spine!

Posted by: Willy | Dec 27, 2007 5:23:16 PM

Let's see...after 6 years of ethnic cleansing in Iraq and 4 million displaced or murdered Shiites and Sunnis, we send in 30,000 troops in addition to the 160,000 already there plus the 150,000 plus mercenaries hired by the corporate interests...and we say the surge is succeeding! If you count all of the dead and displaced as a successful policy, I suppose it is...I suppose we can give a little more time to sort them out cause we sure have been "killing them all".

Bring the troops home now! Let India deal with Pakistan.

Posted by: Paul | Dec 27, 2007 5:23:28 PM

Who should secure Pakistan's nuclear arsenal if the country lapses into civil war?

Posted by: ab | Dec 27, 2007 5:24:21 PM

Islam is a religion of peace. Israeli secret agents could be responsible for this. They are responsible for so much that goes on, and then we poor Muslims get the blame. End apartheid. Stop the occupation. FREE PALISTINE.

Posted by: Ishmael | Dec 27, 2007 5:24:53 PM

For anyone who really understands radical Islam, their goal is to rid the world of infidels and Jews. An infidel is anyone who does not believe like they do so that covers most everybody, even other sects of Islam. If they can destabilize Pakistan, they may have a shot at their nukes and they would use them. It's not a Republican or Democratic issue. It's not Bush's or Clinton's fault. They want us all dead so we need to wake up and understand what this threat is all about.

Posted by: BorisB | Dec 27, 2007 5:26:03 PM

The Islamic Assassin's War has been going on for a very long time, and it is intensifying around the world. Western civilization has the weapons to defeat it but not the will. At this point, Iran is franchising Islamic terrorism around the world, and worse is yet to come unless we cut the head off the snake.

At this point, we have the Chamberlain head in the sand appeasers and the Churchill realists. I really hope the Chamberlain's are right, but as with Hitler in WWII, it is unlikely at best.

Posted by: Bob | Dec 27, 2007 5:26:27 PM

I wonder how long it will take before the fuzzy headed woodstock group of Dems.blame this on President Bush and the Republican Party?

Posted by: ll brown | Dec 27, 2007 5:26:36 PM

If I remember correctly, Democrats were the one's who actually wanted to take the fight to Afghanistan and Pakistan, where Al Qaida actually was hiding out...it was an entirely different party that felt the problem was Saddam and Iraq. All of this, "now do you dimocrats see", etc. rhetoric is nonsense.

Posted by: Jason | Dec 27, 2007 5:28:20 PM

Why they call their practicing religion "religion of peace"?

It is crazy it is only in the Islamic world you see assassinations and mass killings in the name of religion. I guess their religion needs to be reformed to adapt itself to this century....

Posted by: Sebastian | Dec 27, 2007 5:28:41 PM

Liberals are idiots who are so frightened of Al Qaida that they will focus on anything-the environment, Global Warming, Bush-hating...anything to not confront Islamic Terror. They are frightened because they fear that there may really be a Right and Wrong, and their personal lives of dissipation, hedonism ,self-indulgence and lack of discipline make them easy pickings for fanatics. Their self-loathing generated from their own growing recognition of their own cowardice is projected onto trivial concerns that cannot chop their heads off.
Secure the nukes, then kill everything that opposes a massive sweep into the border regions with Afghanistan. I personally guarantee that if the U.S. suffers a nuke attack due to the paralysis generated by liberal obstructionists, the first liberal to say "it was our fault" will never utter another stupid comment.

Posted by: Bill Athanasidy | Dec 27, 2007 5:29:14 PM

I honestly cannot believe the hate and contempt that so many on this board have. Many of you come off as "terrorist-appeasing". Try to put your conspiracy theories aside for a minute, your hatred for the Bush administration aside for a minute, and think about what will happen if these Radical Islamists get a hold of Nuclear Weapons in Pakistan. You may think that sounds crazy but it isn't that far-fetched! This is exactly what they want in the grand scheme of things and this is merely step 1 in the process. Why do you think America needs to be so involved in the middle east? It isn't for oil or we would have a lot more. It's because there is always trouble and turmoil there and some of these middle eastern countries that have Nuclear weapons are the very countries government's we need to worry about being overthrown.

Don't wait for the useless UN to do it as that will never happen. They will only try to "reason" with these savages that cannot be reasoned with.

Posted by: Dan | Dec 27, 2007 5:29:45 PM

I wonder how long it will take before the fuzzy headed woodstock group of Dems.blame this on President Bush and the Republican Party?

Posted by: ll brown | Dec 27, 2007 5:31:54 PM

Politics aside, this is a sad event. Any idiot who denies ties between the Islamic extremist and this sad event needs to seriously consider a lobotomy because your brain is obviously of no use.
I heard Bhutto speak once at a local university, she understood the danger she was in... Having said that, her death needs to be avenged and is being avenged by the current war on terror in my opinion. What needs to happen is the Pashtuns need to be confronted and if necessary by US forces, there needs to be an understanding of what consequences there are for harboring these cowards.
I absolutely despise the use of the argument - how many more young American soldiers must die before... Let me say this as a vet - we volunteer for many different reasons (bonuses, tuition reimb, patriotism), but all of us understand our mission and would gladly appreciate it if you would not use us as excuses to avoid armed conflict. Doctors heal people, police enforce the law and keep the peace, accountants provide due diligence - soldiers, well soldiers train for combat and that is what our current mission entails. So I ask you kindly to refrain from using that statement.

Posted by: Lance | Dec 27, 2007 5:33:03 PM

Bush definitely did it. I ran out of gas this morning and I'm pretty sure Bush had something to do with it. My girlfriend broke up with me and I definitely know Bush had a hand in that. I stubbed my toe this morning...I sense a Bush conspiracy.

Posted by: Tiger | Dec 27, 2007 5:33:21 PM

When there is a suicide bomber attack in the States, then we will see some real reactions by our military. Until then, the war is just an excuse to keep a lot of war-based companies in business.

Posted by: Bob | Dec 27, 2007 5:34:59 PM

Posted by: Average Joe | Dec 27, 2007 5:00:43 PM

Islamic fundamentalists are not zombies. They are not "here for blood" and its not like "they won't stop until they have it." Its not a demonic pleague that we can stop by burning the corpses of the unstoppable living dead. That would be a problem many militaries would have welcomed. Instead we are dealing with a determined and really ###### off group of faithful people that the US, as well as others, have been pokeing with a big stick for decades now, building army bases all over the world were they do not belong. See the differences betweeen them and the undead? Lets stop looking at them as if they want to eat all America's collective brains and address this war on a different level.

Hey Average Joe: You might want to brush up on your history there. These "people" that blow themselves up in the name of Religion has been doing this LONG before the US was even around. It has been going on or the same type of killings (you don't believe in my God, I will kill you) for THOUSANDS of years. So while I can see why communists like yourself want to blame it all on your own country, you are sadly misinformed and came off as very ignorant.

Posted by: Dan | Dec 27, 2007 5:39:14 PM

I hate war and I am sorry to see anyone hurt or killed but like it or not we are at war with these fanatics and we will suffer casualties here or there before it is over and the over part will be years from now. Like it or not we cannot just roll over on this one because these people want us dead or under their religious control

I feel compelled to point out that the casualties in this war are quite small. At the end of 18 hours of fighting on September 17, 1862 at the Battle of Antietam, which was fought in Maryland between two AMERICAN armies there were 23,000 people lying on the battlefield.

Posted by: Jim | Dec 27, 2007 5:39:52 PM

I agree with Pam, if it was this Al Queda guy, why hasn't Bush taken him out. I mean how hard could it be? Look him up in the phone book, find his address and send a cop over there and arrest him. Now, don't get me wrong, I have many good friends named Al, so it's not profiling, just good detective work.

Posted by: Ben | Dec 27, 2007 5:40:41 PM

The irony is, that is Bush. Putin and Musharraf were are cold-blooded , bloodthirsty and evil as the looney left portays, there would be no Al-Qaeda , insurgency in Iraq, Hamas in Gaza , Chechnyan rebels etc because they would have been stomped out. Their lack of resolve and failure to used anything above kid gloves tactits allow the evil to flourish.

Posted by: LennX | Dec 27, 2007 5:43:22 PM

I find it interesting the small minded people who think the US government was involved in 9/11 and the Islamic terror problem is the fault of the US also have already decided this yet another ploy to embed fear in the US....wow...that's really stupid.

What this is is the actions of a twisted group of zealots in the hills and mosques of Pakistan and Afganistan who want nothing more than to kill anyone who does not believe they way they do. Just like the Nazis did in Europe and Stalin did in the USSR. But the same idiots who blame the US for this probably don't believe that either. It is now time for the collective civilized world to say enough is enough and snuff out this flame before it becomes a blaze and burns us all.

Posted by: RayW | Dec 27, 2007 5:46:31 PM

It seems clear that this country (and it's nuclear arsenal) will one day be ruled by Islamic fundamentalism or a democracy. This is undoubtedly the most important country, at the moment, in terms of American national security. Let's hope civility wins the day. If not get troops in there.

Posted by: Ali Babba | Dec 27, 2007 5:46:45 PM

No Tarheel, They are not Zombies. They are twisted, perverted, brainwashed maniacs who kill in the name of religion. That is much worse than a zombie.

Posted by: Tardhill | Dec 27, 2007 5:47:48 PM

"All Democrats Unite! The evil Bush will use this as a pretext for more war. We cannot let him wage war against al Queda. We must elect John Edwards and protect al Queda from the Republicans. Do not torture terrorists! Who cares if they kill innocents! Hillary, please protect Osama! Please end global warming! If it were not for global warming, and American foreign policy, al Queda would not exist! Democrats unite!"

Posted by: Dave | Dec 27, 2007 4:35:43 PM

Whew! What a moron!!! If he is a true representation of Democrats...WE ARE SCREWED!

Posted by: FL Guy | Dec 27, 2007 5:47:55 PM

I think the CIA had Bhutto killed.

Posted by: Jack McJackington | Dec 27, 2007 5:52:41 PM

Having been in ISlamabad within the past year it is a best guess that internal groups with grey ties to Al Qaeda nailed this one. Bhutto threatened more than Musharraf; she threatened fundamentalist Islam with intellect and women's rights. The women of Pakistan are now in dire straits as the fundamentalists with the desire to suborn all women have shown they can and will kill, without hesitation any woman who opposes them.

Posted by: Jim | Dec 27, 2007 5:54:46 PM

It's noteworthy to observe the amount of ignorant fools who can not even find Pakistan on a map are ultimately knowledgeable enough to conclude Bush is responsible for Bhutto's assassination today.

The morons bark about fear and conspiracy and how the US will attack Pakistan now with this "pretext" being the reason.

What a bunch of worthless losers.

First, the US was working with Bhutto to find some way to have a democratic power sharing basis with the existent government in order to aid its stabilization and democratic institutions. I was discussing this with some typical Indian Americans who brought their anti-US third worldism with their parents.

They called the US efforts with Bhutto propaganda. I said it was a desperate situation. Then Bhutto did land up going back to Pakistan and was working on a plan for more democratic power in the country.

That's over for now. Perhaps we should ask Obama is he is now prepared to follow through on his plan to bomb Pakistan.

This is a black day, Al Qaeda had tried to kill Bhutto already several times with the death toll well into three figures. The first attack when she made her public appearance was 140 killed.

A week ago in Algeria, Al Qaeda bombed a UN business building and killed dozens. This is the next stage in their plans to keep a safe homeland for their operations. They have failed in Iraq, but they have a strong safety net in Pakistan, especially western Pakistan.

Now we return you to the merriment of the ignorant Bush did it crowd. What an uneducated lot of morons.

Posted by: RW | Dec 27, 2007 6:06:29 PM

Yet another act of love from the peace loving religion of islam. Defenseless women and children are the only people these cowards can stand up to.

I hope you pantywaste liberal defenders of islam wake up some day before they start spreading all that love through your neighborhoods - then again, you'd probable be right there supporting them.

Posted by: rickk1952 | Dec 27, 2007 6:09:55 PM

@TarHeel: Please stop defending attacks on innocent civilians. Most people hate war, but it is a way to settle conflicts that humanity engages in.
This is bad enough, between military forces. We do not need the addition of non-volunteer combatants to the list. You shame all peaceful (those it seems that are-mainly American) Muslim people by saying that the terrrorists represent them. The terrorists are WORSE than zombies. They actually recognize what they do--blowing up pregnant women-destroying families-intentionally-not through some war footing, and they still continue. What we made mistakes so that justifies mass murder? Murder at political rallies? The terrorists get a free shot to act hateful and vengeful? That is not only SICK- but wrong as well. It is also VERY narrow minded and INCORRECT. GET A CLUE!!

Posted by: Tom Michaelson | Dec 27, 2007 6:09:59 PM

I wonder about the sick, poorly brought up juveniles who think it fun to blame our President for the horror in Pakistan?

Posted by: Nat | Dec 27, 2007 6:22:18 PM

Typical Bush Derangement Syndrome!!

Posted by: Yo Mammy | Dec 27, 2007 6:23:40 PM

How much more will it take for Americans to realize that Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism is by far the biggest threat to our future and our children. If Pakistan falls to the Islamists, it will signal the beginning of Armegeddon as these demonic evil people will use the nuclear capabilities developed and stocked in Pakistan against the rest of the non believer world.

Posted by: Tim B | Dec 27, 2007 6:30:16 PM

Why should we be affraid of sending more troops to spots that need a strong reaction. Does anyone truely beleive that we can be nice to these guys and they will be nice back? Only a fool would think that! We have too many terror loving, terrorist accepting people in this country.

Posted by: Boyd | Dec 27, 2007 6:38:23 PM

ATTENTION CONSPIRACY THEORISTS: Put on your aluminum hats and try this. Hillary Clinton did it. B. Bhutto was a great person trying to save her nation. She was outshining Hillary's Cult of Personality so BB's positive comparison had to end.

Posted by: DownstreamJim | Dec 27, 2007 6:41:59 PM


Posted by: JOHN | Dec 27, 2007 6:43:11 PM

It's obvious Musharaff is no freind of the west. Instead of arresting and cracking down on islamo-fascists during his recent declaration of martial law, what did he do..? He cracked down on the most civil of his society. He should clean up Warziristan and the NWFP and get rid of the nut jobs! Before 9-11, his ISI was helping al-queda... why should anything be different now?

Posted by: longislandsurfer | Dec 27, 2007 6:47:33 PM

Only one candidate will go after Al Quaeda and make us safe. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy.

Posted by: Bob | Dec 27, 2007 6:48:22 PM

Bush, bin Laden? Bah, humbug. Cheney did it. After all, he had experience at blowing up the WTC and the levees in New Orleans. Also, I think he is the cause of global warming or cool down or what ever.

Posted by: The Bear | Dec 27, 2007 6:52:07 PM

The CIA and the Mossad work jointly to plan and execute the mass murder by military-grade bomb attacks, like October 18 2007 mass bomb attack that took scores of lives, and now Bhutto & surrounding supporters.

Who benefit from regional instability? Imperial U.S. and Zionist Israel. The War on Terror slogan is a hoax. Al-Qaeda was created by the CIA as a disinfo campaign for the purpose of geopolitical effects in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Let me repeat. War on Terror is a total farce.

Posted by: nepos libertas | Dec 27, 2007 6:59:57 PM

The Surgeon General says Al-Queda, Cheetos and Video Games cause obesity in teens.

Posted by: HereNow | Dec 27, 2007 7:25:43 PM

Sad, senseless death.

Perpetrated by Al Qaida extremists who were enraged by American Imperialism.

US policy is just as culpable in this tragedy as the killer himself.

Posted by: MB | Dec 27, 2007 7:26:33 PM

I'll be so glad when these 60's hippies time in power passes. Too bad they bred, because we'll have to deal with their evil spawn.

Posted by: hukabee | Dec 27, 2007 7:34:49 PM

Hey, liberal jokesters. You're pretty funny. But, this lady was killed because she was against the islamic facists. You see, they want to put women under shaws, keep them from education and medical care, make everyone wear beards, and kill anyone who does not have of their specific belief in muslim principles. Basically they want to turn back the clock 1000 years. I'm sorry. Bush didn't do that. It's been going on for decades. So, still think your pretty funny?

You think you're pretty clever. But, that gunman was aiming at YOU today, not her. They want to kill YOU next and they could care less about who else gets in the way. If they had a chance, they would drop a nuke on your city tomorrow and dance around the ashes like they did after 9-11.

Go ahead and make your jokes. When that gun is pointed at your head, maybe then you will realize that all the jokes didn't really help the situation a whole lot. I'm sure we'll read them at your funeral.

Posted by: bob d | Dec 27, 2007 7:46:41 PM

Bob D's @ 7:46:41 comment brought to you by the Connecticut-born False-Texan Cokehead Bush Administration and Fox News. All fear, all the time.

When's your deployment for Iraq buddy? Seems to me like you should be itching to go fight in Cokehead's war.

Posted by: Bush The False Texan | Dec 27, 2007 7:58:26 PM

I do hope Tom was just being sarcastic with this comment: We need to have more understanding for Al Quaeda. They are people too. I think with better education in place, more day care, excellent nutrition and diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy its hard to believe that the religion of peace could be respomsible for this.

Plain and simple... evil people were responsible. It takes a real man to shoot a woman in the back and then detonate explosives killing 20 more.

Posted by: Tim | Dec 27, 2007 7:58:29 PM

Posted by: bob d | Dec 27, 2007 7:46:41 PM.

bob d - Excellent, excellent, excellent post. Thank God not everyone has their heads up their ### in this country. You won't change many minds though unfortunately. A bomb could be dropped on any American city tomorrow and STILL you'd have people standing up for the poor, misunderstood terrorists. They'd choose to sacrifice their own families first before a terrorist might be tortured in order to gain information that could have prevented it.

Posted by: Dan | Dec 27, 2007 8:02:53 PM

get ready young american kids...this is your next battle ?.....now Im just waiting for those real smart ones to come out and praise ###### death because shes Taliban, trust me the american people cant figure out the difference and will think shes just taliban cause shes from Pakistan. Just dont forget this stuff happens everywhere.........remember Kennedy ?

Posted by: imran | Dec 27, 2007 9:00:51 PM

This tops everything. US arms MiddleEast to the teeth, billions worth of arms(mostly from US)are all over ME, in the arms of islamists and fanatics. You continue giving billions to Pakistan, despite lawlessness there. Blast the damn country. Why don't muslims come out openly against terrorism ? Maybe they are afraid or maybe they believe Bush's America causes pain worldwide. And when was the last time America instituted democrary anywhere? US has propped up dictatorships everywhere. US propped Musharaff, Saddam, Mujahedeen... the list is endless. Pakistan was the country you should have attacked not Iraq!

Posted by: Ash Wilson | Dec 27, 2007 9:03:52 PM

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