Monday, November 07, 2005

The stuff politicians are made of

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Of late, I have been receiving a lot of junk e-mails about this, that and the other. Apart from the ‘normal’ sexual performance enhancement, teen sex, Paris Hilton, etc. notifications, there are those anonymous ‘letters to the editor’ about Anwar Ibrahim, Ezam Mohd Nor and other Parti Keadilan Rakyat Youth Movement leaders about to join or rejoin Umno over the next couple of weeks.

I would delete those former e-mails without opening or reading them, but out of curiosity I would read the latter messages though I would not pick them up and carry them in the letters section of Malaysia Today. Of course, these letters are under pseudonyms, so one can never really tell who is behind them; so it would be safer to ignore them rather than take them as authentic letters to the editor.

Anyway, whether these e-mails about Anwar, Ezam and those others about to ‘defect’ to Umno are true or not are not really of particular concern to me. I too have heard such talk and the Khairy Chronicles have already revealed the negotiations going on behind the scenes.

Over the last year or so, Anwar has been very meticulous in explaining his stand; which is, his fight is with the opposition. Anwar has stressed to all and sundry that the future is with Parti Keadilan Rakyat and Umno is so corrupt and rotten that its days are numbered. It is only a matter of time, argued Anwar, when Umno would be relegated to the history books and would become a party of the past just like the many since the 1940s that are now water under the bridge.

Therefore, who are we to believe, the rumours or Anwar’s open declaration that he is committed to the opposition cause?

To understand Anwar’s ‘stand’, one has to reflect on the days of the 1970s and 1980s when he suddenly ‘turned’ from an Islamist firebrand, as the western press is fond of labelling him -- and which saw him suffer a stint as an Internal Security Act detainee -- to a member of the administration when he joined Umno. His entry into Umno saw a meteoric rise never before witnessed in Malaysian political history.

In 2002, the then Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad, in an interview in Japan, said he brought Anwar into Umno thinking that he could control the young Islamic youth leader and also to prevent him from falling into the hands of the Islamic Party of Malaysia (PAS). When he realised later that Anwar could not be controlled, he had no choice but to sack him, explained Dr Mahathir.

What is strange in this Japan interview is the explanation given by Dr Mahathir on why he brought Anwar into Umno then later sacked him.

Firstly, it was not Dr Mahathir but Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah who brought Anwar into Umno. Dr Mahathir, in fact, at first refused to accept Anwar, but after some persuasion Tengku Razaleigh finally managed to get Dr Mahathir to soften his stand and agree to allow Anwar into Umno.

Therefore, from the very beginning, Dr Mahathir was sceptical about Anwar and would not have him in Umno’s ranks. In a way, Dr Mahathir did not trust Anwar and never did till the end.

But why then did Dr Mahathir groom Anwar as his successor? Did he, or was Anwar merely a line of defence against other more dangerous challengers to his position? In other words, Dr Mahathir did not really want Anwar as his successor but wanted to use Anwar to check the others eyeing the job.

In the mid-1980s, when Tengku Razaleigh made a bid for the Umno Presidency, it was Anwar who saved the day. For all intents and purposes, Tengku Razaleigh had won the Presidency but Anwar, who was then Umno’s Youth Leader, rallied the Youth Movement behind Dr Mahathir.

The Youth Movement was actually split between Anwar’s and Najib Tun Razak’s forces. Najib chose to remain ‘neutral’, which meant therefore that Tengku Razaleigh would get their support. Anwar, however, made a deal with Najib. Anwar offered to vacate the Youth Leader’s post and allow Najib to take over uncontested if he would throw his support behind Dr Mahathir. Anwar in turn went for a Vice President’s post.

The deal was too sweet for Najib to turn down and any politician worth his salt would grab the offer. So Najib took the deal and Dr Mahathir retained his post by a very narrow margin. Of course, some vote rigging had to be done as well to enhance his chances and everyone knows that Dr Mahathir actually lost to Tengku Razaleigh.

So you see; Dr Mahathir owed Anwar his Prime Ministership. So it was logical that he grooms the man who gave him his job as his successor. That, of course, changed when Dr Mahathir realised he may have to retire earlier than planned if he did not get rid of Anwar.

Secondly, Dr Mahathir never once mentioned in his Japan interview that he got rid of Anwar because of his alleged sexual misconduct. He, not Tengku Razaleigh, brought Anwar into Umno, said Dr Mahathir, because he did not want PAS to get him; and he got rid of Anwar because he could not be controlled.

In short, it is all about politics.

One must remember, in politics there are no friends, only comrades of the same agenda; rakan seperjuang, as the Malays would say. Lawan jadi kawan, kawan jadi lawan, the Malays would also say (foe becomes friend, friend becomes foe).

Anwar was a foe to Dr Mahathir and a friend to Tengku Razaleigh prior to 1982. Barely six years later and the roles reversed. Tengku Razaleigh then spent two terms in the opposition then rejoined the government; and Anwar exited soon after that and took Tengku Razaleigh’s place in the opposition. Even those who had said they would piss on Dr Mahathir’s grave when he dies, and even if they died and were reborn they would never rejoin Umno, did rejoin Umno and pledge allegiance to Dr Mahathir.

In politics there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies. Today’s ‘enemy of the state’ could be tomorrow’s Prime Minister and vice versa. Political parties are mere platforms, to be used to achieve the ends, whatever these ends may be. One should not be sentimental about political parties. It is not the party that is important but the agenda.

And what is Anwar’s agenda? In the 1970s it was something else. When he found he could not meet the objectives of his agenda outside the government and in opposition to it, he joined the government in the 1980s. While in the government he still could not fulfil his agenda fully due an obstacle named Dr Mahathir, so he made a bid to change that. But Dr Mahathir was just too wily a fox and the hunter soon became the hunted.

That was seven years ago. Anwar is now pushing 59. Though he may be 22 years younger than Dr Mahathir and five or six years younger than Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, Anwar no longer enjoys the luxury of time and the advantage of youth like he did when he started out in Umno 23 years or so ago in 1982. If Anwar is still committed to his agenda, then he needs to find a fast track solution and that would have to be in Umno, not in the opposition.

Everyone knows the opposition would never form the government, at least not in this generation. If the opposition can become a strong, meaningful and credible opposition that in itself would be a Godsend. As it is now, the opposition seems to be going in only one direction, and that is downhill. So, like it or not, only the ruling party would offer you the platform in meeting the objectives of your agenda. As an opposition, you would be, as the Malays would say, anjing menyalak bukit (a dog barking at the mountain).

Will Anwar be considered a turncoat if he abandons the opposition for the greener pastures of the ruling party? Maybe and maybe not! If he joins the ruling party for his personal benefit and to further his political career, then many would disown him, in particular those who have suffered and sacrificed the last seven years for what they believe are noble aspirations to affect changes in this country. If Anwar opts out for a sweetener deal, then he would lose many friends. But if he joins the ruling party to fulfil his Reformasi agenda, then that is another thing altogether.

Would, however, Umno allow him back? More importantly, would Umno allow itself to be reformed? Many believe not. As starters, Anwar’s agenda is equality for all races, meritocracy and an end to the New Economic Policy (NEP). This runs contra to Umno’s Ketuanan Melayu agenda. From the word ‘go’, Anwar’s agenda would not go down well with the Umno crowd that is asking for Malay rights and privileges to be stepped up.

But while we look at all this, we must not only look at Anwar’s future in isolation. We must also take into consideration all those other personalities who over the last seven years have made it to the top. Take, for example, people like Najib. Since then, he has become the Deputy Prime Minister and therefore the logical successor to Abdullah Badawi. Will Najib just roll over and play dead and allow Anwar to take his place without a fight? Certainly not, and if Anwar wants Najib’s job he would have to fight for it, and rest assured Najib would give him a run for his money.

Abdullah Badawi would have to seriously consider this point before allowing Anwar back into Umno. If Anwar and Najib go head-to-head, say in 2007/2008, would we see a repeat of Umno’s history of 20 years ago (the Team A vs. Team B era)? Then again, if Anwar is allowed back into Umno, two things could probably happen. One is that Najib would get pissed and makes his move on Abdullah Badawi. Two is that Anwar would oust Najib then turn on Abdullah Badawi once he has securely planted himself as the number two.

Either way Abdullah Badawi would be at risk.

Abdullah Badawi’s safest bet would be to take his chances with Najib rather than take Anwar as an ally against Najib whereby he might later have to face Anwar as an even worse adversary. But then, it would all depend on whether Abdullah Badawi wishes to stay on as Prime Minister or whether he is quite happy with another term or term-and-a-half whereby he would then hand the reins to his successor. In that case, why does he need Anwar? Why not make a deal with Najib that he would hand him the Prime Ministership in 2010 or so if there is no challenge to his position?

This, of course, would only work if Abdullah Badawi is prepared to allow Najib to choose his own number two once he makes number one. If not, then Abdullah Badawi would have to ensure that there is a new number two who would comply to the line of succession after 2010, say someone like his son-in-law.

Yes, deals, deals, deals. This is what politics is all about. And 24 hours is a long time in politics. Five years till 2010 is even longer. And what they say today might mean nuts tomorrow. Did not Dr Mahathir publicly pledge that Anwar was to be his successor then three days later sacked him and put him in jail three weeks later? Did not Dr Mahathir say that Anwar is innocent of the allegations of sexual misconduct then a couple of days later say that Anwar is unfit to become Prime Minister and that he had known this for years? Did not some say they would never rejoin Umno even if they died and were reborn then rush back to Umno even before the spit on their lips dried?

Who knows, the present battle lines might even be redrawn by this Christmas. Today, we are talking about an Anwar-Abdullah alliance to fend a challenge by Najib. But we are not talking about Tengku Razaleigh. Could Tengku Razaleigh actually be the real kingmaker in the end? The one man who does not appear anywhere in the equation could actually be the dark horse, or white knight depending on how you view it.

But let’s talk about this on Christmas Eve when things would be much clearer by then.

29 Comments:

GERAKAN ANTI PAS said...

gap kembali !!!

alo..rpk,mat saman kati dll blogger..rasa tak lewat untuk mengucapkan salam aidilfitri kepada anda semua..

ok gak cerita rpk kali ni..aku ada sedikit tambahan ajinomoto pasal kes2 panas yg aku dapat..

bahawa dato s.......r akan menjawat jawatan menteri penuh sepertimana yg pernah beliau pegang awal 80 an dulu..tahniah dato s......r

kedua YB ahmad sh.....y dapat gak jawatan kelas ketiga...

ketiga tan sri k.. s... k.. dibawa ke putrajaya..

yg belum disahkan oleh group aku kedudukan kadiaq,nenek pidah,ali rustam,anak toyo....

mungkin menteri pelajaran tinggi dato shafie salleh akan menjadi mb selangor next election..anak toyo menjadi setiausaha parlimen mcmana abu zahar,ramli ngah talib dikeciperkan secara halus-halusan..

kj sudah checkmate toyo sejak awal lagi pasal angan2 anak toyo mau jadi MENTERI PENUH DAN KETUA PEMUDA UMNO....

buktinya kj sudah checkmate partner anak toyo iaitu bekas tim ketua pemuda umno dato aziz sheikh kadir yg selalu kelihatan sebelum pemilihan umno lalu bersantai dan menziarahi anak toyo di pejabat anak toyo di SUK shah alam ..pakai harrier hitam lagi..plan asal mereka dato aziz sheik kadhir mau bg laluan kat anak toyo dgn persetujuan hisham auw-auw..tup tup kj pintas mau jadi calon..maka kantoilah proksi pemuda che det kali ini..aku ulang kali ini..

lebih panas lagi..sudah ada pakatan pembangkang yg hendakkan sangat memegang pemrintahan malaysia untuk join sekali dgn ezam,dsai join umno..

nama yg akan ditarik ..salahudin ayob,hasaan ali,husam,group pembaharuan pas,mahfuz malah yg aku dok terkejut mat sabu ! tapi..

hanya akan masuk phase by phase..dimana group pemuda pas akan turut serta selepas group ezam join kj..group pertama (gang 12) sudah lepas dan berjaya menusuk masuk kedalam umno..

master plan cukup dan amat berhati2..malah mengikut pembacaan aku mereka ini cukuop mengadaptasi kaedah sun-tzu dalam the art of war(36 strategi perang)..

klimaksnya dsai..malah haron din,dato ishak baharom,ismail kamus..dll ulama pantai barat akan memegang jawatan penting kerajaan..

menteri kabinet paklah sudah pecah tiga..group chedet,group paklah,neutral..

masa ramadan seorang menteri kanan wanita dato AO..sudah memberi isyarat tunduk pada dsai/paklah..

group musa hitam sudah lama menunggu kepulangan dsai..apatahlagi kekaguman musa pada proksi dsai iaitu ezam..

keadilan akan diseret menganggotai komponen BN seterusnya menjadi satu parti gabungan dengan gerakan..siapa tidak kenal kasih sayang koh soo kun pada dsai..

pasal najib punya plan..aku dok tengah confirmkan ceritanya ..tapi aku cerita sikit lah..

nazir razak(ketua cimb) akan join dgn beberapa tycoon che det bagi membekalkan RM yg dipercayai mencecah billion untuk menentang back-up financial dsai dr luar negara...

inilah klimak terakhir politik malaysia..

sori..yg teng chang kim gak join ezam..

keluaran akan datang..siapa sokong siapa dan siapa tikam siapa ...

Monday, November 07, 2005 11:35:37 AM  
mat saman kati said...

Selamat hari raya GAP, dan juga Petra sekeluarga. Maaf Zahir Batin sekiranya ada yang tak betui dan tersilap.

Cerita pasai orang Keadilan nak masuk UMNO ni banyak sangat. Mampuih pi la. Aku cuma nak tengok apa Syed Husin nak buat.

Info pasai orang Pas pun nak join Anwar tu lebih interesting. Hasan Ali, Haron Din dan Mat Sabu pun la ni dah lain macam. Mungkin cari pasai dengan Pas supaya senang bila nak cabut nanti.

Monday, November 07, 2005 12:39:31 PM  
mat saman kati said...

BTW, Petra.

Permatang Pasir by-election is getting hotter now. Hang tak mau join ka?

Ibrahim Ali dah letak harga. Pas masih tawar menawar. Keadilan nak tau berapa komisyen nak bagi kat depa. Aku rasa by-election ni akan menjadi turning point pada barisan pembangkang. Tak payah tunggu Christmas Eve.(Or is it a coincidence?)

Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52:40 PM  
Old Fart said...

PKR, you are a real champion. I feel having been softened like as if I have been kneaded like a dough so thoroughly that the dough itself is so soft to the touch now compared to what it was when I began. And, oh boy, can I feel the smoothness....yummy. Makes me feel like I am eating one of the finest ice-cream because it is so smooth...or maybe even drinking the smoothest scotch!

But that is how I felt reading this piece. Softening my attitude to Anwar's move into UMNO and smoothening it my senses so that when he does make his appearance finally in UMNO there is no more resentment about it.

Well, well, They are politicians....You are the iconic, spin master!

Having said that I am not attaching any attitude to the rumours or for that matter whether or not Anwar actually joins UMNO. That really does not matter I think. Important thing is whether or not the objective of your article was met.

Smoothening and Softening!...you get 100 marks for that!

Congratulations.

Monday, November 07, 2005 5:18:19 PM  
bumi-non-malay said...

I am not racist but I join Ku Klax Klan...same loh if Anwar join UMNO to achieve his objective.....Then again we can be happy to preserve great people legacy like Mandela who became president at about 76.....fancy if Mandela joined the WHITE party in power to achieve his agenda. How can we compare Anwar to Mandela. Perhaps Datuk Onn to Mandela.....I will not be so angry.....still the search for a bumi non-malay Prime Minister goes on....that is the best solution for a sick racist country led by UMNO. Malaysia needs to be led by a non Malay to teach them what is RACISM!!!

.....Anyway let Anwar know greatness is not a measure of what you achieve but the LEGACY one leaves the next generation......if it is still UMNO leading M'sia to 4th world pariah status (like UM rankings)by 2020 then ......... we never had any NEW LEGACY & I am still looking for a Malay in the class of Datuk Onn!!...when all else fail just Boycott petrol from petronas, move money to foreign banks and don't ever buy a new car.....maybe the power of the people can make a better Malaysia by brankrupting UMNO & cronies!!!

Monday, November 07, 2005 6:40:31 PM  
johnleemk said...

Anwar's confirmed support for PAS has removed what little hope I had left for him. It just assures me Anwar is simply a power-hungry man who will use whatever means possible to become PM, instead of holding to his principles. Ketuanan Islam is no better than Ketuanan Melayu.

Monday, November 07, 2005 6:57:36 PM  
PJUtara Resident said...

Anwar is using Permatang Pasir by-election to test his popularity and influence in local politics. If he is able to demonstrate his influnce by winning the by-election with a huge margin, then that will almost give him more bargaining power and influence in coming years.

He has nothing to lose. He has been to hell and back. He has many job opportunities from overseas. Many people respect him overseas. His whole family is in overseas. So he can fight with full force without any repercussion on his family.

As long as he opposes NEP, Anwar has my support. NEP or any other racist policy helping only 1 race is the biggest source of corruptions in Malaysia. Because the malays will sell their name and their position to the non-malays.

The only way non-malays will get out of this shit hole is to become multi millionaire and invest most of their money overseas. So that all non-malays will have the same standard of living with the develop country.

Monday, November 07, 2005 8:34:56 PM  
LChuah said...

>I am not racist but I join Ku Klax Klan...same loh if Anwar join UMNO to achieve his objective.....Then again we can be happy to preserve great people legacy like Mandela who became president at about 76.....]]

Bumi-non-Malay: for the first time your humor has a grain of truth as well! Hope you stick to this line of thought and discard your ideas of doing Malaysia in. This is the only country we have, you know.

Old Fart says:
> Softening my attitude to Anwar's move into UMNO and smoothening it my senses so that when he does make his appearance finally in UMNO there is no more resentment about it. ]]

Obvious, isn't it? Oh Raja . . .

Monday, November 07, 2005 10:37:08 PM  
Don'tPlayGod said...

PKR is still not strong and confident enough to stand on its own. Hence it needs to tug and hold on to the skirts(oops, sarong) of PAS.

The last G.E. has shown that the PKR + PAS combination has been a complete failure, but PKR still insists on maintaining it.

Monday, November 07, 2005 11:20:06 PM  
Tomcat said...

Helloooooooooo…………….Mr. Bumi-Non-Malay said………

>Still the search for a bumi non-malay Prime Minister goes on....that is the best solution for a sick racist country led by UMNO.<

If my memory still serves me right, I did mentioned in one of my previous postings that I hope to wake up one morning as the prime minister of this land. So I guess you don’t have to search anymore, you got me! But I need about 15 dynamic guys to be my ministers for various portfolios, care to joint me instead of joining Ku Klax Klan?

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Mr. Johnleemk,

It is difficult to find a politician with principles. In politics, there is neither eternal friend nor eternal enemy! It is just a play where personal interests and agendas come first!

Anwar knows what he is doing and he has several cards up his sleeve. As for me, I prefer to wait and see.

Please refer to PJUtata Resident’s posting, Monday, November 07, 2005 8:34:56pm.

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PJUtara Resident said………….

>The only way non-malays will get out of this shit hole is to become multi millionaire and invest most of their money overseas. So that all non-malays will have the same standard of living with the develop country.<

I concur. Moving money out of a country is a very lethal weapon, it can bring a country to its knees.

Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:17:13 AM  
johnleemk said...

Of course politics is nasty stuff. But when you aim to become a statesman, you need to put the country and its best interests before those of you or your party. Theodore Roosevelt, one of the greatest US presidents, had to fight the Republicans in his party to implement his reformist policies. If Bill Clinton had paid attention to his polls and approval ratings, Mexico would be a basket-case today, because those polls would have told him not to approve a multi-million dollar bailout of the Mexican economy. People who chase power and polls may be good politicians, but will be terrible statesmen. That is why UMNO is still in the government - they are good politicians, and yet damn bloody poor statesmen. Anwar appears to be cut from the same cloth as them - he may have publicly repudiated Ketuanan Melayu, but he's having no problems about Ketuanan Islam. On these two issues there can be no "kompromi", and I will stand steadfastly against anyone who promotes either.

Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:27:06 PM  
Anti Hypocrisy said...

LChuah,

part of my posting in

http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-e/2005/10/khairy-chronicles_16.htm

18th October 2005 6.23 am

"..if u asked me, i would say that anwar does want us to know that it is inevitable for him to rejoin umno. why? because he wants the people to be expecting it to happen and thus will not be 'shocked' when it happen.."

"..feel good for yourself RPK if it makes you happy. help anwar to diffuse the shock. help anwar to create a new society, which you thought would be on your term, but in the end you will be just like one of the umno goons - end result : nothing, business as usual..."



It is getting obvious right?

RPK,

So the end justify the means?

Selamat Hari Raya to you..

And by the way, if, and I repeat If, one day, somehow Anwar award you with few thousand APs, please don't forget the poor okay?

Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:52:07 PM  
LChuah said...

Anti Hypocrisy said...
LChuah,
part of my posting in

http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-e/2005/10/khairy-chronicles_16.htm

18th October 2005 6.23 am

"..if u asked me, i would say that anwar does want us to know that it is inevitable for him to rejoin umno. why? because he wants the people to be expecting it to happen and thus will not be 'shocked' when it happen.."]]

I remember that posting, anti-hypocrisy. A big problem with Malaysians is that psychological need for some charismatic person, some Great Leader. This diverts us from asking ourselves truly important questions, such as how different the next government would be. Would it be somewhat the same, with the corruption, cronyism, etc, but under different slogans and labels? Or would it be refreshingly different, and -- this is important -- for the better? Which party or parties have a solid plan to clean up government, implement social justice, with vision for a really united nation? I believe we already have people who can do a better job, but they are unlikely to be in power because Malaysians 1)fear change, 2)already brainwashed into thinking that "progress" means more tall towers and congested roads and polluted rivers, more gobbling of consumer goods, etc. -- in short, the prevailing Western capitalist vision of a good society.

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:31:15 AM  
casper-c said...

It is comforting to note of RPK's reference to Tengku Razaleigh. Any optimist would welcome such speculation but in reality a push for the hot seat remains a longshot. Wonder if PM and Tg.Raz are amicable ?

Some may mock all these spins about future leadership of our nation and rightfully so because there never has been a time where the field of candidates been more muddled than at present. Whatever the outcome, rest assured the behind the scenes horse trading this time round would generate unknown frenzy.

Perhaps RPK's spin is just wishful thinking .... the Anwar - Najib tussle if ever it takes place would exhaust the fight out of one other that allows the prince a convenient position. RPK might just have got the pulse right. And as for this KJ fella and YOuth brats, no amount of money can buy their way towards the pinnacle of government, not in the next GE nor the next, reason being they have not earn their strips just yet. Let em kids go fly kites and leave the business of running the nation to the patient fence sitters long position wihtin party heirachy.

While thumping these few paras, the thought of Tengku Razaleigh does appeal to my senses for a whole host of reasons, namely return the august position of PMinistership to a man of stature with credibility to boot. Now this is a quest worth advancing. Heck this might just be the move to shift UMNO towards a centrist position after 20 years of increasing rightist posturing that has made strangers out of neighbours.

To all, take a moment to ponder over the longshot.

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:37:07 AM  
casper-c said...

Hmm, it is possible in all probability to have this tandem of Razaleigh-Anwar administration ? Think about it ..... or are we doomed to have to put up with a curi balak, wealth derive from dubious arms deal PM !!!!

To any who would listen, let me reinterate that such a thought would return Malaysia towards unparallel posibilities. These are perrilous times, the days of misstep going unpunished is long gone. Mahathir has led us down that road before and we have emerged battered and bruised whether we realise it or not.

To any mainstream journos out there, jump on it and start camping on Jln Stonor for an exclusive. Wag the dog guys, or better still let the sometimes not venerable MGG Pillai do us the honour on this expose. What say you Mr.Pillai, look at it as doing 'national service' for us common folk out there. Cheers.

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:05:12 AM  
Anti Hypocrisy said...

LChuah said..

..A big problem with Malaysians is that psychological need for some charismatic person, some Great Leader...
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Cannot argue with you on this.

Though I do at the moment give my support to PAS, it does not mean I think they should be a dictactor in this country.

I would give my arm and my leg to see PAS head to head with DAP on issues of development, transperancy, survival of Malaysia in globalization and etc.

And I just couldn't wait for DAP's suggestion on how to curb social ills problems in Malaysia, particularly among the Malays and Indians in areas such as drug addiction, crime. How to overcome problems within every different etnics in Malaysia. Malays have their own problems, Indians have their own, Iban's problems are unique. So preferably Mr LKS, get answers that can cater each ethnic needs that can make them into your Malaysian Malaysia thing.

With two sides (one is secular and one is Islamist)trying their best to show to the rakyat that they have the solutions to answers hungered by Malaysians, I think we can have plenty of more practical solutions to our problems.

Let the Islamist run around try to prove that their solution is the best. Afterall, it is their responsibilities as Muslim leaders(as does every Muslim too)to prove that Islam does cater the needs of the majority as well as vigoursly protect the rights of the minority.

And let the DAP run around too to prove that their version of Malaysian Malaysia is better and can cater for the rights to majority and minority in Malaysia. Quote the Confucious if they want to. However, please be more sensitive to the Muslim as LKS statement against the mufti of Perak is a bit off the way to me. Maybe LKS should study more on the Islamic teachings and see the relation between the puasa and hari raya. Surely Hari Raya (celebrated by all Muslims) is not only about some Malays singing Hari Raya songs in their Baju Melayu! My suggestion for LKS is to get an advisor well trained in Islam.

However, somewhow UMNO does not come in the picture for this healthy democracy. I don't have to tell you all why right?

and RPKs article:

"..Will Anwar be considered a turncoat if he abandons the opposition for the greener pastures of the ruling party? Maybe and maybe not!.."

"..If Anwar opts out for a sweetener deal, then he would lose many friends. But if he joins the ruling party to fulfil his Reformasi agenda, then that is another thing altogether.."

RPKs "another thing altogether"...

The end justify the means.. How does it become another thing altogether?

RPK, Please do consider my suggestion whenever you got the few thousand APs.

sigh..

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:35:00 PM  
PJUtara Resident said...

Anwar is a practical man. He will do what is best for him and the country. I will support him as long as he is against NEP or any other Malay racist policy.

If he feels he has enough support in UMNO to bring Dr.M's supporter down and the rest of the old guard, he will rejoin UMNO and reform it.

If he feels he can't do it within UMNO, then he will whack UMNO from outside. As long as he stands strong on the belief that NEP is the root source of all corruptions. And any Malay racist policy is the root cause of all corruptions, then there is hope in Malaysia.

Anwar risking his life going against Dr.M shows that he stand by his principles.

At the moment, I think he is in the perfect position to screw UMNO. He can make UMNO greedy leaders fight among themselves and destroy the party eventually or he can go in to UMNO and reform it.

It seems that the latter is much more difficult then the former.

UMNO can't jail him the second time. It will destroy UMNO international reputation. Anwar has got much support from the Islamic country such as Indonesia and other liberal middle east country. That gives him much recognition as a liberal muslim that is needed to gain muslim votes in the country.

Whereas UMNO leaders are frustrated when they go overseas and do not get the same amount of respect as Anwar Ibrahim.

So UMNO leaders come back and take more bribe thinking that the more money they have, the more respect they will get.

That is why Dr.M build castles and high rise to impress the west. But the west is not impress with his castles and buildings. They know that Dr.M is a tyrant with the same amount of hunger for recognition as Iraq’s Saddam Hussein. When Dr.M came back from oversea, frustrated with lack of respect and recognition from the west, he starts to criticize the west and Malaysians are left to wonder, why out of a sudden, he voice out certain issues that does not matter to the country.

Where is Malaysia R&D? Where are the brains of the country? Everything that is build in Putrajaya or KLCC needed assistance from foreign expertise and materials. Did the Malay entreprenuers involve in those project learn anything.

I doubt it. Most Malay entreprenuer are in for a quick buck. Because Malay entreprenuer has not get rid of their 3rd world mentality, therefore until today they have not gain much respect from international leaders and the business community. Showing off their Mercedes Benz and Bungallow house will not earn them the same respect as Tony Fernandes of Air Asia or Bill Gates of Microsoft.


You must show brain and character power which is very lacking in most Malay entreprenuer.

That is why Malay entreprenuer would rather spend all their time and money to protect the NEP or any other Malay racist policy.

I think Anwar believes that for the Malay entreprenuer to be successful they must learn how to fall first. Just like a professional skate boarder. Professional skate border learns how to fall before they learn how to do stunts.

Anwar believes that Malaysians are frustrated with UMNO spoiling and feeding those ingenuine Malay entreprenuer. They are a bunch of con-man, short term thinking, get rich quick and lazy business man in Malaysia. The malay entreprenuers and UMNO youth is dragging Malaysian economy down.

They are the most unloyal Malaysian citizens because they only care about their ego, their car and their house. Their mind has not develop yet. Malays Entreprenuer and UMNO youth are long way from achieveing the international recognition compare to that of the Koreans, Taiwanese, Japanese, Europeans and Americans.

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:35:00 PM  
bumi-non-malay said...

We actually depend too much on Anwar....for all I know he may die anytime due to forseen and unforseen circumstances. Stakes are high but is M'sian so CHAR that they believe GOD made you to worship one man circumstances and not look at your own ability to bring about change?? At the very least understand the power of BOYCOTT petrol from petronas, move money /mortgage to foreign banks and DON'T BUY A NEW CAR..any 2nd hand will do....Oh yes one property is enough....don't expect to sell at a price of $500,000 in crisis time when people offer you $150,000....don't think like the heard of losers...be the winner GOD intended you to be!!

Very Good the M'sia coward terrorist DR. AZAHARI is dead. Hands up volunteers!!

Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:06:47 AM  
smoke detector said...

PJ Utara,
why do you keep on copy and paste the same stuff in all topics.

Anti-Hypocrisy,
Very well said. DAP has been very adamant in opposing Islamic rules as proposed by PAS. But, apart from opposing., what alternative have DAP propose? Saying this cannot be done, that is not right, this infringe rights bla bla without giving any counter proposals can be done by any armchair critics in any blog or forum, but should not be expected from with political stature of DAP and LKS.

I haven't seen any blueprint from DAP on how they want to comnbat all these social ills - which indeed contribute significantly to our crime index, graft index, economic loss so on and so forth. I'd love to see DAP's ideas and compare them on merit basis to what PAS is proposing.

Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:20:56 AM  
LChuah said...

Anti-hypocrisy says:

>Though I do at the moment give my support to PAS, it does not mean I think they should be a dictactor in this country.]]

To many the tendency to dictate is inherent in a theocracy. For none could be more qualified than those who cornered the right to speak for God. That's why most thinking persons reject theocracy of any shape or form, whether Christian, Islamic, or some other religion. During the Puritan experiment, there was a gradual loosening of church rules and regulations, especially after the horrific Salem witch burnings. Nevertheless, in less than three generations, most Americans were turned off by the theocracy and the whole thing ultimately collapsed. PAS must find a way to ensure that the state it envisions would be inclusive, in order to get the support of non-Muslims. I believe the present PAS leaders might be willing to do this, if they understand the core problem of their vision.

>I would give my arm and my leg to see PAS head to head with DAP on issues of development, transperancy, survival of Malaysia in globalization and etc.]]

This sounds like another version of the cross civilizational ceramahs both parties agreed to some years ago. Yes, it would be educational even if the parties do not come together in the next election.

>So preferably Mr LKS, get answers that can cater each ethnic needs that can make them into your Malaysian Malaysia thing.]]

I think the DAP would be able to come up with workable solutions. Indeed, almost any party could, if their common sense is not warped by racial or religious prejudices.

> However, please be more sensitive to the Muslim as LKS statement against the mufti of Perak is a bit off the way to me. ]]

I missed that news . . . didn't see it anywhere, partly because my laptop broke down and I'm resorting to using the internet cafe. Can any reader post it here?

>However, somewhow UMNO does not come in the picture for this healthy democracy. I don't have to tell you all why right?]]

Sadly, that's what comes from having absolute power. That's why no matter how DAP or any other party might disagree with PAS, they should support PAS in the coming Kelantan state election.

Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:30:56 AM  
Rhan said...

Smoke Detector
Is it always necessary for those who criticize others to come out with a solution of their own? I am here criticizing you, it is your duty to explain what is wrong with my criticism. If you broaden your mind a bit, the criticism is itself a solution.
As for the blueprint, even some of the bloggers here can contribute thousands of idea on how the government should combat the social ill as mentioned by you, what is the point? Anyhow, I think DAP did have the blueprint.
As long as PAS insist on the establishment of Islamic State but couldn’t explain to the non Muslim on the ‘substance’ of Islam but rather using the ‘form’ for political gain, it leave DAP no choice but to keep on criticizing.
What I mean by substance is I can grasp the idea or opinion as put forward by Muslim like Anti-Hypocrisy, Magic Mirror, and RPK.

Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:58:18 AM  
smoke detector said...

Rhan,

Like I say before, critics as it is now is good, fairly sufficient for the level armchair critics (hope you're not one, and afraid that I'm still one!!):).
I'd expect more from DAP. If indeed they're serious political party - not only aspiring to be the Ketua Pembangkang all the time.
You say you think they have the blueprint. If yes, it should not be in the closet, should it?
PAS, whether you like it or not is more prepared to be in the governing seats and is not only contend with the Opposition Leadership that LKS seems to be happy with.

Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:07:57 PM  
Rhan said...

Smoke Detector
I too expect more from DAP, but in reality, DAP is a Chinese based politician party, if I don’t misread the Malaysia Chinese mind, I think most of them are not psychologically prepared to be in a governing position. This is why Gerakan have to be a BN component party even when they did win over Penang.
From your point of view, is it something good or bad?
I don’t fully subscribe to PAS ideology but I cast my vote to them or PKR in the pass three General elections. Thanks.

Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:56:42 PM  
Anti Hypocrisy said...

smoke detector said:
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?..PAS, whether you like it or not is more prepared to be in the governing seats and is not only contend with the Opposition..?
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PAS needs to do more, would you agree with that? As much as I support them but there should not be satisfied with the way they are now. Improvement or “Islah” is an obligation for all Muslim in their life time. I know it is hard time for PAS, with the discrimination and such but bringing the banner of the prophet is no easy task.

I agree with Rhan statement on “..As long as PAS insist on the establishment of Islamic State but couldn’t explain to the non Muslim on the ‘substance’ of Islam..?. The non muslims has been exposed too long on UMNO version of Islam-when-you-need-it that so many non muslims associate Islam with all the discriminatory acts against them. I feel so ashamed that these acts were and are still committed by those leaders who call themselves Muslims and then in speeches telling how Islam is a good religion and etc. Can you think of a higher hypocrisy than that?

Remember that Al-Qur’an can be divided into the Mekah and Medina revelation. Mekah revelation is more towards building the character of a Muslim, the Medina revelation (which comes later) goes towards the administration- law and etc. So it comes in stages. Why it comes in stages? I think the learned PAS Islamic scholars is more in position to answer this. However, one tip: talk and action must come hand in hand. Muslim is fair- talk, action?

I would suggest that while PAS continue their political “dakwah” to establish an Islamic state, the tarbiyah (education) for its members and especially leaders must carry on and more intensified than now. If you want to prove that Islam is a good religion who promote on good things, your leaders must show it. There is no other way to do this. Justice must not only be done but must seen done.

Lcchuah said:

?..> However, please be more sensitive to the Muslim as LKS statement against the mufti of Perak is a bit off the way to me. ]]

I missed that news . . . didn't see it anywhere, partly because my laptop broke down and I'm resorting to using the internet cafe. Can any reader post it here?..?

Please refer to:

http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-s/2005/11/hari-raya-message-by-lim-kit-siang.htm

LKS said :
“This has been further compounded by the denunciation of "Deeparaya" celebrations as "haram" by the Jabatan Mufti Perak last week where non-Muslims were referred in derogatory terms as "orang-orang kafir", in disregard not only of past Deeparaya and Kongsi Raya celebrations whether under the Abdullah or Mahathir premiership but of the sensitivities of non-Muslims in the country.”

I know Mr Lim Kit Siang intention is in line with his Malaysian Malaysia concept. However, in doing so it would be fruitful if he could have an Islamic Scholar as his advisor or part of his team. It would be a good idea too if he have other religious experts as well, be it in Hinduism, Christianity, Buddhism and etc.

It is alright that non Muslims want to visit their Muslims friend during Hari Raya. I hope this practices will continue! Taste some of the Malay rendangs, it is delicious! However, to understand the Hari Raya, we have to understand the Puasa first because Hari Raya is a celebration for those who are fasting in the Ramadhan.

Fasting in the Ramadhan (puasa month) is not only about abstaining from eating and drinking during the day. It is a ground training for Muslims every year. The Prophet said : “Ramai yang berpuasa tapi hanya mendapat puasa dan dahaga..” Loosely translated as: “Many fast but what they get is only hunger and thirst..”. So the core of Puasa is not only abstaining from eating and drinking but more than that. I think if I want to write it here, it would not be enough. But sufficient for me to give one example. Muslims are required to abstain their mouth from talking about sinful thing and could only talk wisely – such as giving good advice, reminding other Muslims and etc

One incident few years back that I would like to share with you. During the Puasa month, I was in the office, one of my Muslim ex colleague was gossiping (about somebody’s husband got mistress and etc), guess what happen? A non Muslim stop by, listen and said: “Hey, Muslim cannot gossip here and there during puasa lah!” I feel so ashamed! Why? Because 1-I myself did not bother to go and advice my fellow Muslim, 2nd-A non muslim was ahead of me in this!

Some of the Muslim would ask, what about my right of speech? My answer – how are we going to uphold the claim of the prophet that we are the role model Ummah (nation) if we are no better than the non Muslim? How is an athlete will ever get Gold Medal if not by practice?

And a non Muslim might ask me, Muslim cannot talk bad during Puasa month but allowed to talk bad the rest of the year? My answer – No, they also cannot talk bad for the rest of the year. Puasa month is a training for Muslims. It is to make them a better person. Example, if a company want to train its staff to be efficient, you get him/her into intensive training for 1 month, then you will get an efficient staff for 1 year. But then after nearly 1 year, you will see the efficiency decline, so you sent him again for another training (another puasa again). And it goes on till that employee retired. Wouldn’t you agree that most of the time the employee will be efficient?

So back to Hari Raya. And after the 30 days of Puasa with its strict requirements, teachings and spirit, the Muslims get the Aidilfitri. The Hari Raya or Idilfitri is really for those who are fasting and observe the spirit of fasting that has been taught by the prophet. It is a victorious day for Muslim who are able to observe the teaching. Please note that Hari Raya is not equivalent with some guys and gals in Baju Melayu singing and dancing!

So, while I know that Mr Lim Kit Siang might not mean bad when he is for the DepaRaya thing, I am not sure if it complies with the spirit of the Islamic teaching. So, Mr Lim Kit Siang, if you can hear me on this, please accept my suggestions on the advisor thing, or someone who is able to convey this message to him, please do so. I would appreciate it very much.

This is my explanation lcchuah. Hope it can clear things. PAS or DAP are not perfect, but improvement is never too late.

Coming back to the article. Since we are talking about Anwar rejoining UMNO. I just want to express my opinion a little bit more on UMNO.

As far as Anwar changing UMNO is concerned, I never believe he could do it however great and smart he is. Why? We have to see the scenario in present UMNO compared to before. Prior to DEB, many UMNO leaders comes from the Malays educationist as well as retired civil servants. If Anwar wants to change UMNO at that time, I would say his chances are better. UMNO funds at that time are mainly from the Chinese towkays who wants to be close to those in power. Many are also contributing because as compensation for the projects they gained from the government.

But things changes once DEB took effect. There is no doubt that while there are many phases in DEB, the drastic change comes while Tun Mahathir was the UMNO President and Prime Minister.

When DEB comes, the Malay educationist and retired civil servant bulk gradually fade from the UMNO scene. I ask you know, how many Cikgus are there that form the leadership? Some still are but the majority are now in the hands of Malay businessmen.

During the era of Tun Mahathir, things grows worse with Mahathir trying his best to push UMNO members and supporters towards business (he thinks he can get Malay to be advance by this). 2 great mistakes Mahathir had done are 1. to close one eye on the corrupt practices that comes with his “push” and 2nd, in my opinion, to sideline religion (Mahathir being a stern believer in secularism, Note his speech praising murderer Mustafa Kamal Atartuk.) Thus, when more and more people join UMNO at that time, it is for 2 reasons -1. Power 2. Money that will buy more power. So your corruption flourish well in UMNO.

The Chinese, generally, can survive and still are supportive of their race on the whole (Proof: Look at how they handled projects, how they are being supported by Chinese organization and how they in turn support their community), this is due to their tradition and history of thousands of years. The Malays however don’t have that. That is why I argue that Malays without their religion is like a Chinese without his culture and tradition. If Islam, who teaches ethics and morals to the Malays, is taken away from the Malays, what is left for the Malays?

So there you have it. UMNO at present, full of businessmen wannabes (to the grassroots) who never care about moral and ethics. Their motto is simple – You must have power to have more money, and more money to have more power.

The only way I can see how UMNO can be cleansed of these parasites is by UMNO losing power and those parasites will be the first to tuck tail and run from UMNO.

But the idea of Anwar becoming its President and PM and able to “cleanse” UMNO, how is this possible? You must remember that to be strong in UMNO among these businessmen wannabes is not only you must have many supporters but have the money as well. And how to get a big bulk of money to support you if you do not indulge in corrupt practices? How Anwar is going to ensure that UMNO members and leaders (who are businessmen wannabes) support him if he does not give out business opportunities to them? If he can do that, my, I can say he is really a genius!

Remember Abdulah Badawi’s telling the UMNO members that Malay must throw away their crutches (tongkat)? Now in the recent budget, the allocation is given to these F and D contractors? Why did he do that? Because he has no other choice but to comply with the grassroots (many are contractors) demands for more government projects! And why didn’t he stop Khairy amassing more wealth? Because he needed that money to ensure that he will stay in power! Could he do it otherwise?

My conclusion, Anwar will never succeed in changing UMNO from the inside. Not with the present UMNO who are businessmen wannabes to the grassroots. And to make matter worse, they don’t care about ethics and moral. Islam’s halal and haram is just trash for them. More money is no 1. More power is 2nd. Halal and Haram are applied as far as eating pig is concerned although Haram also applies to food that come from corrupt incomes!

Think about it guys!

p/s Rhan’s “I don’t fully subscribe to PAS ideology but I cast my vote to them or PKR in the pass three General elections”

I too vote for PKR though I am no fan of Anwar and the worst thing is that I don’t even like the PKR candidate in my area!

Friday, November 11, 2005 12:07:32 AM  
bumi-non-malay said...

PAS = PKR Muslim = UMNO = TALIBAN = AL QEADA....just ask yourself muslim or not....where were they when TALIBAN Destroyed the Giant Buddah at Bamiyi in Afganistan......did they CONDEMN or APPLAUD. Why do M'sian hope to change the spot on the leopard?? PKR was the ALTERNATIVE great hope....what happen all talking of joining en-mass with Anwar....pity those non-malays there....they were CON with their big hope....so called multi racial party....no wonder Marina Yussof left, Chandra Left....I actually rate Marina Yussof near Datuk Onn....I only wish we have more like her!!

Friday, November 11, 2005 8:55:45 AM  
LChuah said...

Anti-hypocrisy said:

LKS said :
“This has been further compounded by the denunciation of "Deeparaya" celebrations as "haram" by the Jabatan Mufti Perak last week where non-Muslims were referred in derogatory terms as "orang-orang kafir", in disregard not only of past Deeparaya and Kongsi Raya celebrations whether under the Abdullah or Mahathir premiership but of the sensitivities of non-Muslims in the country.”]]

Kit Siang was referring to a practice that has been the norm for several generations, and in the past no one had said that was "haram". Perhaps we can look at the situation from the other side and ask the Mufti to explain what he meant by "haram"?
That would save a lot of trouble and perhaps even LKS might agree with him!


> Mr Lim Kit Siang intention is in line with his Malaysian Malaysia concept.]]

Not merely that -- it is in line with the secular state that, as evidence shows, was supported by the Tunku and all other PMs until Dr.M, because of his tussle with PAS, declared Malaysia to be an Islamic state.

> It would be a good idea too if he have other religious experts as well, be it in Hinduism, Christianity, Buddhism and etc.]]

A good start was the inter-religious council that was proposed some months ago, only to be rejected by some Muslim groups.

Finally, many non-Muslims don't know much even about their own religion (or culture), not to say others' such as Islam. So, as I said some time ago, any Muslim party looking for the non-Muslim vote would have to do the explaining, not the reverse. This is natural in all other areas: any party hoping to get elected would have to explain to the voters their socio-economic programs, foreign policies, whatever. It would be funny if BN were to ask the voters to hire experts to understand its economic and other programs. So let those who've proclaimed Malaysia to be an Islamic state -- UMNO and PAS --tell the nation what that really means, and whenever any situation like the Mufti's declaration of Deeparaya crops up, let the accuser tell why LKS was wrong. In the process, all other non-Muslims can learn something too.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:05:14 PM  
Mat Karut said...

Anti Hypocrisy:

“Puasa is a ground training for Muslims …”

It looks like this particular ‘coerced’ training is not working very well because thousand of Muslims are committing crimes everyday in Malaysia alone. In case you are not aware, other than fasting, they are many options out there: Meditation, Yoga, Qigong, Karate etc. Check them out to see if they are any good …

“How are we going to uphold the claim of the prophet that we are the role model Ummah (nation) if we are no better than the non Muslim?”
I see two elements here: Racism + Kiasuism

”The Chinese can survive and supportive of their race due to their tradition and history of thousands of years. The Malays however don’t have that. That is why I argue that Malays without their religion is like a Chinese without his culture and tradition. If Islam, who teaches ethics and morals to the Malays, is taken away from the Malays, what is left for the Malays?”

This must be one of the most stunning confessions in the history of mankind.
To begin with, I didn’t know Malays have ZERO tradition and history! (All this while, I thought it was Wahabbism which robbed them of their rich tradition and ruined their once colorful culture such as the very ‘chun’ and sexy Batik Kebaya etc.). I certainly have no idea Islam is the only source of reference on ethics and morals, naïve me but Buddy, do try Google and sites like answers.com more often … you’d be surprised. And the most stunning of all is that Malays are not human at all but zombies aka Living Dead! Otherwise, how could Malays become ‘nothing’ as soon as Islam is taken away from them? Their brains stop immediately? They will become blind instantly? Sounded so scary, man.

Anyway, I see you have high regard for Chinese culture and tradition, so why not give up Islam and become a Chinese instead? The Chinese welcome everyone to join their camp; mastering Confucianism is never a pre-requisite, donning Shaolin robe is not a requirement … Actually, almost nothing invasive or damaging: no circumcision, no 10% donation, no need to fast, dress whatever you fancy, eat anything you like, celebrate any occasion you wish etc.

Sounds like it is really a good idea to become a Chinese, isn’t? What are you waiting for? Step one, rename yourself as Xiaopeng, Chow Yun Fatt or if you wanted something modern, try Faye Wong or Bruce Lee. And then, get a dermatologist to bleach your skin yellow (optional. See, Chinese don’t do forcing) and then, go to order a sucking piglet and lets celebrate your Chinesation (will the language guru correct me) with a bottle of champagne (in lieu of Baptism).

See, in Chinese, everything boleh! Guess it is time to promote the oldest religion on earth: Chinaism … Viva Chinois!

Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:20:37 AM  
Anti Hypocrisy said...

mat karut, you live up to your name!

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"..All this while, I thought it was Wahabbism which robbed them of their rich tradition and ruined their once colorful culture such as the very ‘chun’ and sexy Batik Kebaya etc.). I certainly have no idea Islam is the only source of reference on ethics and morals.."
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Besides the sexy batik, can you tell me who else teaches the Malays morality and ethics besides their religion - Islam.

Any great Malay teachers or thinkers who does not source out from Islam?

Pray tell me.

Of course if you want to refer to your nationalist, who are secular, and who defines "Ketuanan Melayu" out of their own whims and fancies, then it is up to you then.

And if you want to appoint the corrupt Tun Mahathir as your source as a great thinker, it is up to you too.

As far as high regard, maybe you should learn the word "respect". There are non Muslims who held Islam in high regard too, but remain in their own religion and beliefs. That is and example of what you call "respect". Please Google RESPECT for further reference.

Respect is the keyword to start a mutual and beneficial cooperation. But of course unless the word cooperation is defined by your nationalist - to deny even the basic right of the minority to learn in mother tongue, or better still 'cooperation' is defined as forcing the NEP and Bumiputera status on the minority.

Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:46:24 PM  
LChuah said...

It's simplicistic to define all Chinese as pork eaters, for some are vegetarians, besides the millions of Chinese Muslims. Personally, the meat I eat most is chicken, right from my teaching days in Klang when I patronized almost daily the mamak stall in what was known as "Peking Hotel," opposite the bus and taxi stand.

Malays do have their culture, though a large part contains Hindu roots, as well as elements from Chinese and Arabic civilizations as well. That their ethical theories are not particularly advanced is largely due to their comparatively late transition from an oral to a written culture, and here it is true that Islam can supplement that lack.

But only supplement: it would be a sad day if the Malays were to give up all they've achieved, not merely fine batiks, but also their unique architecture, their distinct kites, bangsawan, not to mention their way of living with nature. Indeed, it is this, the Malay affinity with nature, that, in my opinion, lies the hope for a better quality of life for all Malaysians.

Islam is very adaptable, and though an outsider, I would've loved the Malays to adapt Islam to their culture, instead of replacing it. This was, incidentally, how the Chinese adapted Buddhism: by focusing on the here and the now instead of rushing headlong into its esoteric
teachings, Hui-Neng started the Chan (Zen) movement that ultimately influenced millions of devotees in China and beyond (especially Japan). It's also interesting to note that the Chinese pagoda was an innovation inspired from the Hindu/Buddhist stupa.

Monday, November 14, 2005 1:21:21 PM  

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