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Chavis interviews with Falcons, staying with Vols

For the second time in the past two months, a member of Tennessee’s coaching staff decided to remain in Knoxville.

Tennessee defensive coordinator John Chavis said Monday he will remain at Tennessee after interviewing with the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons over the weekend.

“I let (UT coach Phillip Fulmer) know last night my intentions were to stay at the University of Tennessee,” said Chavis, who interviewed for the Falcons’ vacant linebackers coach job. “I’m happy and delighted to be at Tennessee.”

Chavis said the Falcons are “the only people I’ve entertained anything with at all” this offseason.

Chavis, 51, has been the Vols’ defensive coordinator since 1995 and has coached linebackers at Tennessee since 1989.

Following the 2006 season, Chavis was named the American Football Coaches Association’s Division I-A assistant coach of the year.

And Chavis isn’t the only member of UT’s staff who chose to remain in Knoxville.

Shortly before the Vols left for the Outback Bowl in December, defensive ends coach Steve Caldwell decided to stay at Tennessee after talking with longtime friend and new Arkansas head coach Bobby Petrino about becoming the Razorbacks’ defensive coordinator.

Still, the Vols hired four new offensive coaches, including former Richmond head coach Dave Clawson to replace offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe.

Cutcliffe left to become head coach at Duke, taking with him running backs coach Kurt Roper and tight ends coach Matt Luke.

Wide receivers coach Trooper Taylor also left to become co-offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State.

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       346 Comments

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why would he do that if all is well? Hmmm?

Posted by rabidvol1998 on February 11, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The sky must be falling. Or maybe like all of us he's keeping doors and options open. Maybe he's tired of college bloggers and 18-21 year old kids.

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on February 11, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nothing about that in the Atlanta paper (AJC), but they don't necessarily discuss all the assistant coach interviews.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rabidvol: Yeah, must be the bloggers. Good Grief, man. lol

Posted by johnlg00 on February 11, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Um, because he's a Tennessee guy who knows the team will be better next year? Because he doesn't want it to look like the haters who post negative comments in anonymity ran him off? Because he realizes that Atlanta is a coaches' graveyard? I'm glad he's back to show that last year was a fluke. We might not have the best defense we have ever had next year, but I think they'll be a lot more like the unit we had in the SEC Championship game than the one we saw against Bama and Florida.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i know this is coming from a gator....but all this stuff would scare me if i were a tenn fan.

why would chavis interview to be a position coach with the falcons?

why would cutcliffe take the job at duke instead of staying at tenn and getting a different head coaching gig. most any other job would be better than duke. with the mannings on his resume, you would think he eventually would get a better head coaching gig somewhere else. why the rush to leave?

it would make me suspicious that something is not right in shangri-la. not saying that's the case, but this doesn't seem right.

in addition, how long has chavis been at tenn. to leave now..... for the falcons.....i don't get it. did he turn down a job or not get offered one. why was he even looking?

Posted by KingsportVol on February 11, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang Bloggers!You are killing the program!

Posted by KingsportVol on February 11, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang Bloggers!You are killing the program!

Posted by KingsportVol on February 11, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang Bloggers!You are killing the program!

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator: Good points. Good questions. But questions are not allowed here.

Posted by Tenn_Dawg on February 11, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know many on here have their opinions of Chavis and there are certainly some strong opinions of him here in Chattanooga but VanGorder must think enough of him as a coach to interview him for a pro level job. He (Chavis) has been quoted as saying he is glad he is on the back side of career when discussing the difficulties of coaching in this day in age. A move does not make a whole lot of sense at this point. Especially if he is planning on quiting in two to three years from now which some I've talked to seem to think is likely.

Posted by superk on February 11, 2008 at 4:06 p.m.

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Posted by eVOLution on February 11, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang it I was hoping he'd leave. Cause I hate stories like this. Now everything that happens during the season will be questioned. "is he leaving? did they lose because his mind is somewhere else? why doesn't he like to recruit?" Oh well I still think he's a good coach but still can't figure out the option or the spread.

Posted by Tenn_Dawg on February 11, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator those are some very good questions. I'm curious if Chavis was looking or if VanGorder contacted him and he was interviewing as a courtesy or just to see what they had to offer. One thing for sure is St. Nick will know be telling propects for the 2009 class that Chavis is not happy at UT. I had heard about Chavis possibly leaving/looking around on a sport talk radio show here in Chattanooga on Friday. I guess for once a radio rumor was true.

Posted by pdhuff on February 11, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack -Is blogging anything like clogging?

Chavis is tuff to interview for any position with the ego-feeding Arturo (Mike Vick wheel-chair pushing) Blank's Falcon's.

Posted by justisiscumin on February 11, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't blame him for looking, watching 18-21 year olds run up and down the field with your paycheck in their mouths is tough. At least here he knows he has a good solid job and barring a catastrophe he will have it till he retires. Nothing to do with UT, if he is truly on his last career segment as he has himself said he is, he is going to make these few years the best for himself that they can be financially. After he retires, no one is going to be worried about his retirement account but him; so if he is smart, and Lord knows we hope he is, he should be watching out for himself and his family. As much as orange kool aid drinkers may feel he owes UT some form of loyalty, it is a professional loyalty to do a good job, not a sacrifice or jeopardize his retirement type loyalty. The later is stupidity. Glad he is staying and I am sure he is staying because it is in his best interest to do so, no other reason.

Posted by marc_ash on February 11, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator,

I asked the same questions before. Something wasn't right. Not only did Cut leave, but he took a chunk of folks with him. Coming home again to TN for his second stint was supposed to be for the long haul.

Whatever has happened, its been a hush-hush situation. I am wondering if he found out something Fulmer was doing that wasn't considerably "ethical" (I'll leave that up for interpertation for you folks).

Either way, the domino affect sure seems to have occurred.

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis has interviewed with several NFL teams (KC Chiefs for one) during his time at UT. Each time he has chose to remain a Vol.
Many on here stated before, other blogs, that no one else wants Chavis. He is a great teacher and has had to patch togethe this defene over the past several years due to injuries an early deparures.
His commitment to this program and the players throughout the years is comendable.

Posted by FWBVol on February 11, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How many of us, happy in our jobs, haven't looked or tested the waters to see what else is out there? Just because someone applies/interviews for another position doesn't also mean something is terribly wrong where they are. It's crazy to always draw that conclusion.

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack
Why woud he stay if all was not well?

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No real rush to leave for Cut. He was approached about the NCSU job last year and declined. I honestly don't understand why he took the Duke job except that maybe he doesn't think opportunities are going to be that plentiful for him. Maybe he thinks he can repeat what Spurrier did... there is certainly a vacuum at the top of the ACC right now.

The guy has publicly stated that he wanted to be a HC again... is it really a surprise he took an HC job?

Chavis has interviewed for other position coaching jobs in the NFL before.

Judging from his comments in an article posted here last fall... it sounds like he's basically just a little tired of the fish bowl life. He mentioned several times that he was glad that he was on the tail end of his career because of the scrutiny and criticism that exists now.

I'm not a big Chavis fan. I don't like some parts of his philosophy on defense or the reputation following him that he's not a strong recruiter... so I really don't have a motive to rationalize this away. I think UT could definitely find someone that wanted to coach guys like Berry, Vinson, Martin, et al. However, a guy considering other options isn't a huge deal unless there are confirmed issues or they are taking a demotion.

There's every indication that there were problems between UM and Drayton.

College DC to NFL LB coach is pretty much a lateral move or maybe a slight promotion... but one that could open other doors.

If there were issues between CPF and CJC then a) he probably takes the job and b) we'd have heard something before now.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just to clarify my comments....

my shock is not that he looked for an nfl job.....but, seeking a job with the falcons reeks of desperation to get out of where you are.

of the 32 teams in the nfl, the falcons and the raiders are two organizations (if i had options) that i would never want to work for at the given time.

i understand that the geography of atlanta relative to knoxville may have had an appeal as to any affect on his family (i do not know chavis' marital status, if he has kids, if the kids are grown, etc).

but, other than that.....i do not understand why a man with his job would think about the falcons.

Posted by MOOREVOLS on February 11, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols is right. Chavis has interviewed 3 or 4 different times since he's been at Tennessee. I remember the Chiefs and also he interviewed with Indianapolis 4 or 5 years ago (give or take a year or so). It's nothing new that he'd interview, it's just a little odd since he mentioned possibly wanting to get out of coaching in the next few years.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dennis: Beats me. The simple fact that he interviewed, knowing it would get out, is interesting. You think CPF is happy about this getting out? I don't.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator--just curious why a gator (chomp chomp)feels the need to post daily on a vols fan site.

are you a closet (vol)fan?

i suspect you just prefer to stoke the fires of the malcontents.

Posted by Pullingguard on February 11, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well is his not going a good omen or a bad one.
I think Chavis is a good guy and a good coach, but he cannot turn loose of those he has surrounded himself with that have not been doing a good job. The DB coaching can be improved upon and it seems that Chavis is immune from suggestions by Fulmer or anyone when it comes to the defensive coaching staff. I also don't know why this is even a story, if he was happy at UT and he interviewed with Falcons and evidently was not offered the job and comes back to Knoxville and they let it be known that he interviewed with Flacons, probably a dozen more did also.. Are they stuffing ego's or just trying to get some print over on Hill.

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Coming home again to TN for his second stint was supposed to be for the long haul."

marc, you are usually careful so I'll ask you for a source on this. Every other credible person I've seen has pointed to the notion that DC was not in it for the long haul unless it was as UT HC. He stated shortly after returning... and I've seen that quote... that he wanted to be a HC again.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols--dont go their brother,according to many,our coaches couldnt get a nfl job if they paid for it.

heil theyre just here because theyre lucky 10 times a year.

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh marc... Cut took the coaches that came over with him from Ole Miss.

Posted by jim_bell on February 11, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Grass might be greener TJ.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol

i have answered that question a few times, so i am going to be brief. i will just say i am an SEC fan and it is more interesting reading stuff from other places. i read stuff on the gators too. but, i can get a gator info constantly and i keep up with the program. i find it interesting to see what's going on elsewhere.

when i write something, i am giving an honest take or opinion. i have stuck around so that when i write something.....people have seen enough of me to know that i am not just trying to ruffle feathers.

Posted by mj54 on February 11, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis is staying??? And the news just keeps getting worse for UT!

Why would he leave? He's got a cush job from a boss that could careless how he performs and he doesn't even have to recruit.

Posted by BigOrange1 on February 11, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FWBVol - great point, finally someone makes sense.

Despite what some of you may think, you have no idea whats going on on the "inside"...not me, you, or anybody else. Just because you interview at another job doesn't mean your unhappy with your current position. I've done it. If Chavis is really that unhappy, then I'd like to think he'd leave.

It's amazing how some of you so-called experts know what's going on after reading a two paragraph article. Give it a rest!!

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Either way, the domino affect sure seems to have occurred."

Man marc... I've never really seen this many problems with one of your posts. Brooks had a shot at the Ark DC job and turned it down. Trooper Taylor was very apparently interested in staying at UT with some sort of comparable title right before he left. Adkins could have left this year but stayed even though he didn't get a strong consideration for the OC job.

If no one else wanted these guys... why would we?

Posted by Tenn_Dawg on February 11, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack....Nick is happy it got out. If the Falcons/ VanGorder contacted Chavis then this is probably nothing more than a good coach looking at other opportunities. If Chavis contacted the Falcons about an opening then maybe there is some validity to the theory posted by some that all is not well in Big Orange Country. I'm not sure what I think. I would like to hear some more details first.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i think fulmer has laid down the law,the offense is in transformation and the defense will follow suit,one way or the other.

the cheif has been one of if not the best d.c. we have ever had,but times change and you either change with them or get left behind.

we will know this year,i think we see a defensive transformation next.

Posted by johnlg00 on February 11, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, you have been a most considerate guest on this board, even being an "enemy"(;-P) and all, so I'll take you at your word that you are just asking for information. I of course can only offer opinions, but here goes.
I'm not sure Cutcliffe could get a better head coach job than Duke. He is in his mid-50s with a history of heart problems and a mediocre record as a head coach at Ole Miss. He nearly tripled his salary by going to Duke; if he wins three or four games a year, they'll put up a statue of him. Almost anywhere else would demand a better coaching record and would certainly expect more success. I think Duke is a good fit for him at this stage of his career.
I don't know how serious Chavis was in his dealings with Atlanta. I don't know what relationships he might have with the powers-that-be there that led to an interview. They are desperate right now; maybe he thought they might offer him a boatload of money, more than he could make as an assistant at any other college, and he has said that he wasn't interested in any head coach position that he was likely to get. Maybe he thought it would be good to let some people around here know that other people thought he was doing a pretty good job. When assistants have the length of tenure that he has had, and when you add up all the years Cutcliffe spent at UT..., well, that is just uncommon at any college these days. It is at least as surprising that they were both here as long as they were and are. I don't think these situations necessarily mean anything out of the ordinary is wrong at UT, though of course I could wrong, and no doubt others will have different opinions.

Posted by bigbluevol on February 11, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Part of the reason he might have interviewed could be due to the fact that he is apparently friends with several people on the new Falcons' staff. That comes from WBIR's story on this same subject. He could have interviewed out of courtesy, curiosity or anything else. I do agree that if there were problems and people were bailing out, doesn't it seem that Chavis would have taken this out?

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Probably no but it isn't the first time Chavis has inteviewed for the NFL.
The fact that he chose to stay says alot.
I know the Falcons have had their fair share of bad press but the currnt changes are being looked upon as good for them.
The Falcons contacted Chavis,not the other way around. No one can blame him for doing the inteview. If any of us were contacted about anothe opportunty, who would not check it out to see if it might be a better career move even if we were happy where we were?
If things are as bad as some seem to think, why not jump into the 1st lifeboat avilable? He DID NOT
Cut. went to Duke because they gave him the right answers concerning backing of the program. We all knew it was just a matter of time before he left again.

Posted by RockyTopTalk on February 11, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey now, rabidvol1998. This blogger supports Chavis.

And pdhuff, yes, blogging is like clogging, except you dance with your fingers. Moonshine and shotguns are discretionary in either case.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posivol: 99gator's post are much more logical, informative, and grammatically worthy than anything you've put up.

Posted by KingsportVol on February 11, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mj54 becareful.posivol does not like such negative talk.You must only share his opinion.

"It Rubs The Lotion On Its Skin Or Else It Gets The Hose Again"

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

johnlg00

yeah, some of that makes sense.

i did not include trooper taylor because he left for a promotion. that makes sense.

cutcliffe left for a promotion too. but, duke is a dead end job. maybe you are right. maybe he never would get a better opportunity. i don't know. i did not realize he had health problems.

if chavis has connections to members of the new staff in atlanta, than this makes more sense.

Posted by cjraney on February 11, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When our coaches don't interview w/other teams people say no one wants them. When they do take interviews or a different job, its b/c something is wrong on the hill. Folks, those opinions are mutually exclusive; you have to choose one or the other. So which is it?

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If Chavis were unhappy with CPF or something at UT, he is more than likely in a financial situation where he could quit without a job.

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, Duke is a dead end job? Are you, a Gator fan who obviously remembers the 90's, really... really.... sure about that?

Posted by hcjournals on February 11, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all, everyone tap on the brakes. If Atlanta asked to speak to Coach Chavis it is not uncommon to talk to them. It also doesn't mean he wants to leave. He doesn't.
When other teams ask to interview your coach, it shows that he is a well thought of coach. Period. Let the paranoia stop. And 99gator..........you've got your own problems with Oscar Meyer. No running backs are going to want to come to Fla because of the offense. Fix that, then come on back and help us with our coaching staff. Thanks for caring so much......hehehehehehehehehehe.

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You can't use a guy getting an NFL interview against a team that is recruiting kids by telling them that they can help them get to the NFL. Saban is smart enough not to want to talk about the NFL anyway though....

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

again, i don't want to be misunderstood.

staff changes happen all the time. florida just had another assistant leave. in each case (maybe because i have more information regarding florida), it was understood why the assistant left.

in tenn's case, some of these things did not seem right (trooper taylor being an exception), but i don't know as much about tenn.

as someone else wrote, if someone is not interested in members of your staff.....you should be concerned.

Posted by cjraney on February 11, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Re: Cutcliffe, he has publicly maintained his desire to be a HC again. Now he is and he took with him the people he brought to UT. Seems to make sense.

One can surely question the choice of Duke, but there are definitely positives to it.
1. Mediocrity will be a huge success.
2. There's nowhere to go but up.
3. Excellent pay for himself AND assistants.
4. He will be dealing with intelligent administrators and players.
5. The fan base won't be so far up his butt they can taste his breakfast.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18

i don't say this to further pump up the legend of spurrier. but, spurrier was the exception not the rule.

look at duke football before spurrier....look at duke football after spurrier.

i know nothing about cutcliffe other than what you would read on a resume. i wish him the best. but, it's duke. the best chance duke has at winning football games is during a scrimmage.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh well, it could have been worse. He could have interviewed with Falcons BEFORE recruiting. That would have looked good. But wait, this is the same guy who admitted publically that he was thinking of getting out of coaching. Great for recruiting. But wait! He's never shown much passion for recruiting anyway. Stay the course.
All is good.

Posted by pms151 on February 11, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man you guys are typing so fast my brain can't keep up. Which brain are those fingers attached to? This is normal stuff for coaches this time of year. If Fulmer and Hamilton wanted him gone he would have already been gone.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack--Posivol: 99gator's post are much more logical, informative, and grammatically worthy than anything you've put up.

tj,you just have a gator crush---it will pass.

Posted by GoVol on February 11, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's common knowledge Chavis doesn't like to recruit. So, just maybe Fulmer is telling Chavis he now has to be more dedicated to recruiting and Chavis doesn't like it, hence, the discussion with the Falcons??
As folks are saying, something isn't kosher in K-town.

Posted by BigOrangeJeff on February 11, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone remember after the '98 NC season when Chief interviewed for the DL coach position with the Colts? I don't recall anyone questioning the direction of the program at that time?

Who knows why he interviewed? It could have been a favor/courtesy to a friend. It might be that he is looking to challenge himself at the next level. Perhaps he was genuinely interested in the job. It's entirely possible that he is concerned for the future at UT. One thing is for certain. Only Chavis knows for sure why he interviewed.

In your haste to point out the negative negative possibility within any news about the program, some of you leave logic behind. You guys make this worse than a political campaign.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator--says-i know this is coming from a gator....but all this stuff would scare me if i were a tenn fan.

and--it would make me suspicious that something is not right in shangri-la. not saying that's the case, but this doesn't seem right.

posivol says--spin it any way you wish,your just stoking the fire.how bout stoking it back to gainsville where you belong (chomp/chomp).

Posted by tngeoff on February 11, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! don't let this secret clue go beyond us guys. Shhhh! If everything is beautiful would he really interview with the Falcons? Shhhhhhh! I said keep it on the qt! Like I was saying...he really, really, really DID go and interview. I'm just guessin' now...but I'm guessin' it wasn't for the Falcons secret fritter recipe. Just a guess. But in the end "we're lucky." He didn't take it! In spite of the pressure he must have endured. Whew! That was CLOSE!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ejEVczA8PLU !!!!

Posted by pms151 on February 11, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This youtube addiction is really out of control tngeoff. Are you overdosing? Call 911 if so. Or take a vacation to Fantasy Island. de plane..de plane boss.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol

it doesn't strike you as odd at all that a man who has been on the staff over ten years (i think) all of a sudden was looking at a job with an nfl organization that is a league wide joke at this moment in time. i think the question i asked makes sense.

i don't care if chavis stays or leaves. i don't know who would replace chavis. maybe, that guy would be better. maybe clawson will be better than cutcliffe. maybe worse. i don't know. so, my opinion is not influenced by a secret wish to see chavis leave tenn.

if you read this stuff often enough, you would know that no one needs any help in being negative if they so choose.

people are so divided by who is positive and who is negative, that no one will acknowledge when the other side has a point.

Posted by cjraney on February 11, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know what, I'm changing my mind; the alternative [that coaches often interview for other jobs] is just too logical.

I must now agree that there is some huge, program-crippling secret about UT football being guarded in Knoxville. It is so big and damaging that everyone associated with the program has their lips double-sealed and there is no chance it would ever leak out. Man, we will probably NEVER find out what this super-secret is, so why don't we just speculate instead?

Posted by tngeoff on February 11, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pms151.

Thank you for your concern. Actually I am fine. The youtube just provides a slant that written words can't. Some like it. Some don't. I do. By the way...think about how much more effective that last line would have been with a link to youtube and the guy actually saying that stuff. Just food for thought! Thanks again!

Posted by WD40plusVol on February 11, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Probably Chief interviewed just to see how much they were offering. Obviously, not enough.

"common knowledge Chavis doesn't like to recruit"? Strange that I had never heard that before this recruiting season. But, I am not in the beltway around the AD like some.

Cut probably went to Duke because it was the one place they were practically giving him the keys to the city. Once bitten, twice shy. He wasn't going anywhere where he didn't have control over who he hires and fires (see Ole Miss AD).

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator--not odd al all considering hes friends w/ the new head coach of atlanta.

would you not go and hear what your friend has to say as well as offer advice on possible coaches for the job.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney: I don't see any secret hand-shake conspiracy here. Just think it's a bit peculiar for the Assoc. Head Coach to be talking to NFL about a position coach job. No big deal to me. Just curious. I know the faithful dislike questions about the program, so excuuuuse me.

Posted by IPOrange on February 11, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There's not a conspiracy behind every action, guys. It could be just an opportunity that has arisen, and JC checks it out to weigh his options.

A) Opportunity knocks.
B) Check it out.
C) Weigh positives against negatives.
D) Make a decision.
E) Stay at TN.

People do it all the time. It's natural to evaluate your options. Nothing sinister going on....

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol

did not realize there was a relationship between chavis and the atlanta staff. that makes more sense. that's why i asked the question.

based on that, i would assume chavis listened out of respect, but never really entertained the thought of leaving.

but, that is just a guess.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator--again just curious,have you been to the alabama site and asked their fans why major applewhite the o.c.left for texas and took the running backs coach position?

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol

florida does not play bama regularly....so i don't worry about bama.

but, i know why applewhite left. saban is an absolute jerk that no one can work for more than a year or two. so, he left to take a demotion at his alma mater.

florida is rumored to be hiring alabama's running backs coach.

Posted by ONUV on February 11, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by pms151 on February 11, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tngeoff I took one of your pills. Only once though. i never inhaled at UT and will only make this exception for you, your grace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-pVhTZg...

Posted by invisiblekid on February 11, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He either declined the job or wasn't offered so this looks to be a non-issue at this point. If he were to go elsewhere, I would just hope that Fulmer or Hamilton would insist he take Slade with him.

Posted by FulmerRulz on February 11, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who cares if Chavis stays or goes. The problem is at the top. Ten years since our last SEC title. How much longer til the next?

Posted by sjt18 on February 11, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, it is within the cosmos of possibilities that Chavis was desperately trying to get out of K'ville before the roof collapses but considering these facts, it isn't likely:

1- He didn't take the job
2- He's interviewed for NFL jobs before and like this time turned them down to stay at UT
3- There hasn't been any rumor about dissatisfaction
4- He and Fulmer HAVE been together long enough that it isn't likely a personal thing
5- Chavis is a longtime Vol and would be LESS likely to leave if he thought he'd leave them in trouble.
6- The only rumor concerning Chavis not liking someone on staff concerned Trooper... He's gone.
7- If he was really dissatisfied with CPF or UT... he could probably quit without another job and be fine financially.

Other than pure speculation, can you think of a reason why we should think there is a problem?

Again, I'm not a big fan of Chavis' defensive style and philosophy. In particular, I think he tries too many tricks and plays his DL and MLB's too small. But he has been successful so if he really wanted out of town he could find a job... Arkansas' job was open for a long time.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pms: Please don't feed the Geoff.

Posted by bugman on February 11, 2008 at 5:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tennessee football is a joke.

Posted by tngeoff on February 11, 2008 at 5:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pms151.

That is a riot! Good job! It's just a posting tool and it can very effective. That video significantly enhanced your words. Even though you used it to deride me...I still think it's funny! Good find Bro'!

Posted by utmdm on February 11, 2008 at 5:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and someone who refers to himself as bugman is not a joke?

Posted by pms151 on February 11, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ he is feeding himself. sjt seems to me that you are right. Bugman how enlightening.

Posted by cjraney on February 11, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ-
Asking questions is normal and healthy for the program. Making conclusory judgments regarding those questions w/o any add'l info usually isn't. I'm also not pointing fingers at you.

Some of my own questions from this past season include:
1. What do mean you [CPF] didn't realize Hardesty never entered the game?
2. Do you think we should try to cover DJ Hall?
3. Why did we abandon the run so early?
4. Why haven't we thrown downfield?
5. Follow-up to #4: If Ainge couldn't make the throw, why didn't Crompton see any time?

Posted by IPOrange on February 11, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, fellas, I thought you'd like to see the devastation caused by the tornado at Union University. This is one of the most powerful videos I've seen relating to the destruction. Check it out - it is an eye opener.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O-IiHCrs...

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Listen guys, there is 1 reason that ole DC went to Duke! UT was going to pay him 350,000.00 next year, Duke is going to pay him around 1 MILLION!!!!! Where do i sign up for a raise like that.......ILL TAKE IT!!!!!

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18

i think i am a little misunderstood here. my posts were more question than opinion. it did not make sense, so i was looking for someone to explain why chavis would listen to the falcons.

someone said there is a relationship with chavis and the current atlanta staff. so, that makes more sense to me.

if it were rumored that charlie strong interviewed with the falcons for a lb coach position, i, along with numerous gator fans, would be scratching our heads.

the other thing was that it was coupled with cutcliffe leaving for duke. cutcliffe leaving to be a head coach made sense. but, duke didn't. but, i am not cutcliffe.

so, i was asking questions more than making accusations and a declaration about tenn.

my first post was at 3:55 was almost exclusively questions.

Posted by beaznvol on February 11, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Of course he turned it down... He might actually have to do some work. If He and Larry Slade cannot have a top 5 passing offense with the secondary we should have going into 2008, they shouldn't be able to coach a 1A program.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CJ: Good questions: Let's add:
6. Why did Cal surprise us with their speed?
7. Oh, Hardesty didn't get into the game(AL)?

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TOP 5 PASSING DEFENCE

Posted by RunRunPassPunt on February 11, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Marc ash - cutcliffe didnt come back here for the long haul and made that known up front. he wanted to be a head coach again and came out and said it the minute he was hired. It was well-known that he wouldn't be here more than 3 years.

Sure, it would have been great if he went to coach at an elite school but does anyone here think that is realistic? he is a good coach (not a great coach) but struggled recruiting and as we saw this year, struggled with play-calling. at this point in his life he more than likely realized being the Duke HC was about as good as it would get. Sure, he took folks with him, but he brought them in and then offered them promotions.

I think most of the folks above addressed quite accurately why Chavis would interview and then say no thanks. But don't come on here even suggesting that something unethical is going on - that is unless you are a bama fan and then it would be expected of you. Perhaps JC was looking around because his defense gave up more yards than nearly any TN team in history - two years in a row. I support him and will continue to - but the facts are the facts. With some notable exceptions his defense has been dreadful the last two years - despite being our saving grace in 2005.

Posted by invisiblekid on February 11, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PositractionVol, I'd say the vast majority on here get along just fine with 99Gator, he looks to be able to hold his own talking football with anyone on here and I have yet to see him show anything but respect for the Vols. He is certainly able to stay on topic and discuss the given subjects for a particular article better than some that seem more obsessed with what the "malcontents" have to say than what is actually going on in the Big Orange Nation. BTW, could you fill us in on exactly when Kaplan deputized you to become the board police?

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol asks why 99gator posts daily on our site.

99gator--says--i will just say i am an SEC fan and it is more interesting reading stuff from other places.

and then changes to--florida does not play bama regularly....so i don't worry about bama.(or blog on their site)

just curious again,have you ever copied/pasted anything from this site to your gators site?

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the reason why the defence gave up so much 2 reasons: hefney played this season like a freshman (trying not to get hurt before the nfl combine) and no johnson or morley

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator: We have a few posters with only a couple of functioning neurons. Other than those, I think most would consider your posts reasonable.

Posted by pms151 on February 11, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey kaplan, where were your guys when this was real time?

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

berry as a freshman played better than hefney

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

as a matter of fact vinson played better than heffney and he is a WR

Posted by VolnDothan on February 11, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why don't other teams fans stay off this website...at least when it comes to posting comments. It's free now so I guess this comes with the territory...

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid--i have no problem w/ gator99 or his posts and agree he does know football,again just curious as to why he is blogging on a vol site.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what The Kid said.

Posted by pms151 on February 11, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

please don't go there with hefney. He was told to lead and play out of position and he did. He is a true Vol.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volunteer_cowboy--excellent posts,i agree 100%

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol

no, but i have seen other people do that. there are people who will take an article from the KNS and copy the link and post it on gatorcountry or something. very rare, but there are some people who read the KNS for info and if they see something that they think makes tenn look bad, they will post it to make fun of or what have you.

i don't do that. if i came on here to be a pest, than i would not get honest answers to questions that i have a curiosity for.

for instance, i asked this question on another thread....

"what are the major position battles for tenn heading into the spring.....i assume crompton has been named starting qb or has tenn made the position "open""

and got an interesting answer because i have been accepted as someone to be taken seriously as opposed to someone coming here to cause trouble.

i don't hate tenn all that much. i have said this before too. i hate fsu and georgia. tenn is not in the same stratusphere in terms of a rivalry for me.

i assumed that florida would not be near the rival bama is to y'all. but, i have been here enough to know that most of y'all hate florida with the fire of 1,000 suns.

Posted by beaznvol on February 11, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way, Chavis was considered for an NFL coaching position for the Colts around the time of our NC. I read an article stating the he said he took a visit to the athletic dorm and changed his mind. It is absolutely normal for people to leave schools in College Football. I think the ones that don't must lack some type of motiviation to excell and climb. (1AA schoold to D1 or D-Cooridinator to head coach etc...) Sure college assistants can be happy where they are at although doesn't that make one more apt to become complacent? He could have possibly just read about all of the offensive 4 and 5* recruits around the SEC?

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wonder how hard it would be to hire someone to poss as a teams fan and constantly drum up negative drool until you actually had a hand in a programs change.

fireronzook.com

hmmmmmmmmmm...scuse me but maybe im a tad bit scepticle of posers!

Posted by beaznvol on February 11, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish Zook would have stayed...we beat them then.

Posted by invisiblekid on February 11, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PosiVol, my guess is he can't find signs of intelligent life on any Gator boards LOL. Have a good one.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol: Apparently you're a little scepticle of spell-check too.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol: Apparently you're a little scepticle of spell-check too.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator says--i assumed that florida would not be near the rival bama is to y'all. but, i have been here enough to know that most of y'all hate florida with the fire of 1,000 suns.

its not hate,florida stands in the way of our ultimate goals (championships)

alabama (not so much lately) but looks to be changing quickly.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol

i understand how you feel.....but i am much more positive than several of the vol faithful who are here.

someone questioned whether something "unethical" wsa going on at tenn. i never did that.

i don't call phil fulmer.....foolmore, foolmoron, etc.

i don't make krispy kreme jokes.

don't go blamin me

Posted by 4ss on February 11, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 5:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid--PosiVol, my guess is he can't find signs of intelligent life on any Gator boards LOL.

now thats just funny :)

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on February 11, 2008 at 6:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good grief...you don't need to delve into conspirocy theories to understand Chavis' interview. Van Gorder is the new DC of the Falcons who used to be DC of the Dawgs and was going to be the DC of the 'Cocks (under Spurrier) before the Falcon's job came up. Van Gorder is also a LB coach who knows great LB coaches when he sees one especially from his own experience in the SEC. For all we know, they may even be good friends. Van Gorder might have interviewed Chavis hoping to land him, but also to pick Chavis' brain and vast experience and connections in the coaching fraternity for other good candidates.

They had a nice chat, Chavis looked at the opportunity and said 'no thanks and good luck'.

Now Cut:
It was well understood that Cut's return was a short term deal until a HC job came open. I actually think Duke is a good fit for Cut. They have stated they want to improve football; there aren't ridiculous expectations and the area offers a great lifestyle. If he is reasonably successful, 5-8 wins a year with some bowl games sprinkled in, he should be able to coach there as long as he likes. That's not a bad package for a guy on the final stages of a great carrier.

That all being said, I look forward to some possible changes in the defense coaching staff.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator--no, but i have seen other people do that. there are people who will take an article from the KNS and copy the link and post it on gatorcountry or something. very rare, but there are some people who read the KNS for info and if they see something that they think makes tenn look bad, they will post it to make fun of or what have you.

thats the exact point im trying to get across to some of our fans,anything and everything will be used against you in the recruiting wars.

i beleive you 99gator and sorry to use you to make a point,but hey your a gator (chomp/chomp).

go vols!

Posted by FWBVol on February 11, 2008 at 6:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with those who have backed 99gator. As far as I'm concerned, you are welcome any time. You show respect and seem to be just what you claim to be, a fan wanting to gather information.

I'm not worried about 99gator doing anything like cutting and pasting to a Florida site. The Florida fans that lurk in the shadows without expressing their opinions, or make negative comments about our program are the ones to be concerned about.

Posted by bbrown on February 11, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator: Just wondering why you're not applying that same reasoning to your own program. In the last month, you have lost your running back coach (to TN), your secondary coach (to WV) and your co-defensive coordinator (to the Ravens - who went 5-11 last year).

Do all of these "dominoes" falling mean there is trouble in Gainesville?

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on February 11, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tommy Jack you're being incredibly sensitive verging on paranoid lately. No one is getting persicuted for disagreeing...but do expect debate.

99gator...based on what you said about Saban's leadership style, one wonders given the rumours about Steele joining UT staff this year and his known close relationship with Chavis, if the pieces are possibly getting put in place for Steele to escape Saban next year and join the Vol's staff. Would love to stick it to Saban and get a quality coach in the deal.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 6:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VolinDawg: Been off my meds. Will double up.

Posted by jimr07 on February 11, 2008 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator--do you know for a fact that Chavis initiated the interview? Is is possible they contacted him? Honestly, the only exercise your brain gets is jumping to conclusions.

Posted by PacmanCajones on February 11, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tommy Jack

WFT is scepticle?

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bbrown

@ 4:40, i addressed this.

from the people i know, drayton leaving florida was a mutual thing. i know that will come under debate here, but that's what i believe.

doc holliday is from west virginia. they doubled his salary and gave him a promotion.

greg mattison left for a job with an nfl team. mattison is very close to the harbaugh family, and therefore the new coach in baltimore. he was a position coach leaving to be a position coach.

now, if a coach left florida for a lesser job. yes, i would have questions if something seemed out of sorts.

in addition, the "dominoes" statement was made by someone else, not me.

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on February 11, 2008 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ...LOL

Pacman...scepticle is when you have doubts about your testicles...you're scepticle.

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 6:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pacman: posivol's spelling of skeptical.

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on February 11, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator: an NFL position job is typically a promo or career advancement over coordinator position in college. Just like a Div II HC taking a Div IA coordinator position is a promotion. I'm sure that someone with Chavis' resume would be getting top assistan coach pay which would probably be as good or better than DC pay and without the hassle of recruitment, baby sitting 18 yr old ego maniacs, and drawing up game plans against great competition game after game.

Still, he chose to stay. Given Van Gorder's knowledge and experience with Chavis, I wouldn't doubt that it was Chavis' job if he wanted it.

Posted by bbrown on February 11, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator: Sounds like when it comes to a coach leaving UF, you choose to believe what you want to believe. You're pretty good at making excuses for your staff turnover. Why don't you give UT the same benefit of the doubt -- coaches look into opportunities in which they might benefit personally -- without implying its a trend indicative of something going on?

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volin: No doubt here

Posted by dkerr on February 11, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have just found out the reason Chavis is unhappy. It seems the bloggers hurt his feelings.

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

everything i have written is either being twisted or misunderstood.

to restate everything.....

this did not make sense to me (because it was the falcons). if chavis left for the vikings or applied for the vikings, i would not have questioned it.

the falcons are a mess and most people who are happy would not give them the time of day.

cutcliffe leaving made sense. he wanted to be a head coach. i wondered why he would not stay at tenn to get a better job than duke.

i got answers from some of you all as to why this would be the case.

and that's it folks.

there was nothing more sinister than that. a mountain is being made out of a mole hill

Posted by 99gator on February 11, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

notice how i never questioned trooper taylor or the assistants who joined cutcliffe at duke.

those moves made sense.

Posted by andy112382 on February 11, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2006 Assistant coach of the year, interviewed for the NFL (once again) and you still had morons calling for not only Fulmers head, but for Chavis to be removed this past season as well, that goes to show you how little that select few on here (you know who you are, no names needed) actually know about football.

GO VOLS!!! Thanks for staying Chief!!! Defense should be fun to watch next season, especially if we get that DL playing like we're use to from the past!

Posted by murrayvol on February 11, 2008 at 6:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

eVOLution @ 4:07 p.m.: Whhhhhhhhat? "Oh well, I still think he's a good coach but can't figure out the spread or the option."

Would you care to rethink that post?

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack==ahh he misses his ole buddy tdtn.

it will be o.k. the sun will shine again.

Posted by gslaton on February 11, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody want to predict how long Urban Meyer stays at Florida? I say three more years or until Tim Tebow graduates!
Some coaches are just looking for the next challenge (Meyer) while others have decided that you have to make yourself happy (Chavis).

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 6:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack---the 1967 co runner up spelling bee champion for dox county--CONGRADULATIONS!

we are all proud of you.....vol nation

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 6:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

listen most of you guys or whatever you call yourselves a`re full of crap and just go on and on and on like a bunch of old women just sitting around gossiping!!!! every coach that left UT for Duke or anywhere else is because of more money PERIOD cutt left for a 700,000.00 dollar RAISE no other reason and the guys that went with him came with him from OLE MISS and went to duke with him for loyalty and more MONEY (does anybody see a common denominator here) and if chavis would of left it would of been for you guessed it MORE MONEY! so like the beer commercial GUYS ACT LIKE GUYS and stop the BS about nonsense and the ifs, ands, butts and what ifs QUIT BEING STUPID ITS FREAKING (MONEY)

Posted by murrayvol on February 11, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator: I understand everything you're saying and agree with it. It doesn't make sense.

Posted by nafslov on February 11, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vinson and Berry are the "REAL " deals !!! Sadly, young Bartholomew will probably be just like his "worthless" older brother......Go Vols !

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AND HEFFNEY PLAYED JUST LIKE JAMAL LEWIS DID IN HIS FINAL SEASON! TIP-TOE THROUGH THE TULIPS!!! AND AS FOR OUT OF POSITION BS SO DID VINSON (SO WHATS THE EXCUSE)

Posted by pdhuff on February 11, 2008 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, I agree 99gator is a reasonable and welcome poster. Some recent newcomers could do as well possibly, but it has not manifested itself.

Some appear to have a large import of themselves.

Beat Arkie.

Posted by jamali76 on February 11, 2008 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol,maybe you should check your own spelling before making comments on spelling bees.You are the perfect of example of why inbreeding is wrong.

Posted by tngeoff on February 11, 2008 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol's posting patterns are surprisingly representative of the MIA named Mary, or VolCR. Very, very similar in denegrating everyone while promoting his self annointed level of omnipotence. Very strange this evolving cast of characters.

5,005!

Posted by TommyJack on February 11, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff: Yeah, but CR could spell.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

soon to be lifetime movie.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack -- dude w/ 2 first names cracking on me.

geeze leweeze,pick one name and stick with it.

you just add fodder for e.s.p.n. and their trailer park stories.

hows jimbob,marysue and the clan been doing,nut didnt fall far from the tree........BWAHAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jamali76--i have just nominated you as the official kns spellchecker--please do us proud.

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff: his self isnt proper grammer its himself LOL

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff--i have never ever called anyone a name as vile as what you just called me.

but since you brought it up,i was wondering what was up w/ the mad man crush you have for tdtn.

nevermind i really dont want to know!

Posted by Ironcity on February 11, 2008 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Darn the luck I was hoping he would go. We would have plenty of time to replace him and we could find someone who will actully recruit. I havn't liked Chavis since the beginning. I will say he has progressed dramatically since that time, however I just can't get past how predicatble our blitz appears to me, how he could not stop Spurrier when we were stacked and how he could not stop Nebraska.

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i think TDTN and notsoslimone are brothers or something, always negative minded, like they deserve the HC job but neither couldnt carry his jock strap

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff--i agree,but isnt it nice to read a whole posting w/o the k.k./fritter played out drival.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volunteer_cowboy--i think TDTN and notsoslimone are brothers or something, always negative minded, like they deserve the HC job but neither couldnt carry his jock strap.

now thats just funny!

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

neither could recruit at the High School level, but maybe Pee-Wee (MAYBE)

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ironcity

whens the last time you checked in on tn football.

ps.how bout that fiesta bowl

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and sphs_vols needs to be on bama's staff cause he can lie with saban all day

Posted by vol1994 on February 11, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by vol1994 on February 10, 2008 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow! I posted it would possibly be next year but...
we may lose chavis this year.

Just found out chavis in atlanta interviewing with atlanta falcons job as line backer coach.

Doubt he will take it but he will leave next year as his kids graduate from UT law school...

I knew he was getting burnt out at ut but..

------------------------

i think some thought i was crazy when i posted last night.

Posted by jamali76 on February 11, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol,I'll be more than the spellchecker,I'll represent everyone on this board when I say please leave,and go crawl back under your rock,your b.s. is getting old and your not funny,amusing or anything other than annoying.By the way isn't it almost your bedtime?You'll never get out of fifth grade if you don't get plenty of rest so you can concentrate on your schoolwork.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

they would be good for a footstool are maybe a beerholder at best.

Posted by VOLS85 on February 11, 2008 at 7:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have failed to read every post on here so forgive me if this has been said, but there are so many people on here that say this coaching staff is never really interviewed or lured away to another place because they aren't good enough...doesn't this mean something to these bloggers? People like UT coaches, they want them...going to the NFL can be a springboard, and Chavis would not have been stupid to take a job there (and likely pay raise) but he's staying loyal to UT and that deserves some credit.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jamali76--so i take it your turning down the official kns spellchecker position.........

wheres ole volcr when you need him.

Posted by volunteer_cowboy on February 11, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THANK YOU VOLS85 i said sort of the same: listen most of you guys or whatever you call yourselves a`re full of crap and just go on and on and on like a bunch of old women just sitting around gossiping!!!! every coach that left UT for Duke or anywhere else is because of more money PERIOD cutt left for a 700,000.00 dollar RAISE no other reason and the guys that went with him came with him from OLE MISS and went to duke with him for loyalty and more MONEY (does anybody see a common denominator here) and if chavis would of left it would of been for you guessed it MORE MONEY! so like the beer commercial GUYS ACT LIKE GUYS and stop the BS about nonsense and the ifs, ands, butts and what ifs QUIT BEING STUPID ITS FREAKING (MONEY)

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dollar-dollar bill-yall

i agree,350g vs 1mill

color me gone

Posted by LargeOrange on February 11, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PacmanCajones: WFT is scepticle?

Pacman What is WFT?

Posted by Tenn_Dawg on February 11, 2008 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posivol....I'm a Dawg fan living in Chattanooga. I, like 99gator, read the KNS quite often. I have many friends, co-workers and family that are UT fans and we discuss UT, UGA and SEC football in general on a regular basis. Like 99gator the goings on with UT interest me more than Bama, LSU, etc. because they stand between UGA and Atl. It is a Keep your friends close and your enemies closer kind of thing. We have UT fans posting on the Athens website on a regular basis and I enjoy it. Some come to give their opinions and have serious football discussions others (one or two) come to flame but it is all good. Everything I've basically read from 99gator seems well intended but you automatically set yourself up to ridicule when posting on a rival board so that comes with the territory.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vols85--I have failed to read every post on here so forgive me if this has been said, but there are so many people on here that say this coaching staff is never really interviewed or lured away to another place because they aren't good enough...

your correct,i know i have read that at least 500 times,course it was all posted by the same guy under differant screen names.

Posted by knoxsingle on February 11, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Butch Davis just lost his defensive coordinator at North Carolina to the NFL.

Quinton Coples should have signed with the Vols. That's pretty tacky to leave a university position right after Signing Day.

Posted by LargeOrange on February 11, 2008 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis said the Falcons are "the only people I've entertained anything with at all" this offseason. Since he didn't say "the Falcons are the only one to call me this year" seems to me to indicate that as we know has happened in the past, he probably was approached by other teams (college or pro) this year and this one is the only one he entertained. He is a good coach with a good rep and we are lucky to have him.

Posted by voltan on February 11, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

great to have the chief back. Best def coord. in the country other than not recruiting. He has kept our predictable offense in many a game. I want to see what happens when our new offense plays with our stout def. HCPF keep him happy. Might want to get him a few more def linemen next yr. Chavis seams to be able to come up with a plan that maximises his stengths and hides his weaknesses. cant wait till its football time in tn again

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange--i agree 100%

Posted by Tenn_Dawg on February 11, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Knoxsingle....one of UF's assistants (Asst DC)just left after NSD for an NFL job. FWIW the rumor is Omar Hunter one of the Gator's big time DL recruits asked Urban if he was leaving before NSD and he was told that the coach was staying at UF. It happens all the time. That is why guys should be very comfortable with the school they sign with not so much the recruiter although I can definately see the importance of that relationship.

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nafslov----norom

now thats just funny!

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tenn_Dawg--i agree,i would hate to think where our program would be w/o the stability of phil fulmer at the helm.

could not and would not want to imagine what it must have been like to be a bammer fan the last 10 years.

is it any wonder why they hang on to the bear.

Posted by dvols on February 11, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what happenned?

Posted by posivol on February 11, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

since the inception of the bcs,only 3 sec teams lay claim to the championship.tn-fla and lsu.

i do get a kick out of everyone demanding a sec title every other year and a national title every 5 or so,while remaining in perpetual top 10 in national rankings year in and year out.

talk about living in the clouds,,take a puff for me while you got it out.

of course if we did accomplish these lofty goals,wouldnt we be the first ever to do it.

Posted by vol1994 on February 11, 2008 at 9:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

correct- Chavis received about 4-5 calls from the NFL. Most were def. postion coaches while one was a scouting position.

He is well respected and well liked at the next level guys. Most coaches feel UT defensive players have good fundamental skills.

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack - we need to be careful on this site... dissent will get us kicked!! LOL

KingsportVol - I agree... free TDTN!!

Posivol - 99gator has been pretty good on our boards. He makes decent comments and you sandblast him just because he's a gator?? What next? Axe him like TDTN?? Does that mean that only agreeable Vol fans should be allowed?? Being a Fulmer supporter doesn't mean that I can't disagree with his decisions! Neither does it mean that when I do it matters! I was extremely critical of gametime decisions this year. Does that mean I should be gone?

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A bit of humor.
Tonight on the news in Atlanta they had a story about how GA feels the border between TN & GA is about 1.5 miles south of where it should be according to some old documents. There appears to be some kind of dispute brewing.
This has come up because GA wants to tap the TN River for the water.
Some politician from TN said "I would suggest we settle this on the football field. But that would not give GA a fighting chance"

Posted by nicksjuzunk on February 11, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow!

I'm glad this didn't happen. Chavis puts up great defenses most years, injuries set aside.

Most people wouldn't be happy regardless of who we brought in so what can you say to them?

Chavis did this well. After signing day so no whispers, and way the heck off from next years signing class so anything rival coaches could say would be so far under the bridge I think it carries no weight.

Posted by va_vol16 on February 11, 2008 at 10:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

who cares if chavis leaves what good is it to stop people on 1 and 2 down if you cant do it on third down especially third and long

Posted by VOLstuckINky on February 11, 2008 at 10:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gator99 .... man you really have alot of free time. Do you spend as much time at the Free Shoe U website?

With our secondary, if we can get some penetration on the DT, then I think Chavis's D will be back to nasty form.

I'm sure some fulmerite will attack me because my comment wasn't too "true fan"-ish.

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols - this has a bunch of people in Chattanooga and west really upset! The politicians in GA are very serious about this nonesense!! Two years ago (pre-drought) this wasn't an issue! If they could regulate their own peoples water consumption most notably from the city of Atlanta, then this still wouldn't be an issue!! Upon hearing about this for the first time Phil Bredesen said "is this a joke"? Bredesen even jokingly stated that he would send the Vol Navy down there to defend our borders!!

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dfreeman - I agree. It is a serious problem. Part of the GA problem is AL & FL. All during the summer drought AL had NO watering restrictions and yet they fought GA tooth and nail over the water from Lake Lanier. I live on Lanier and it is a sad sight now. The water intakes for my county are no longer below the water level so we had to dredge the lake just to obtain drinking water. FL still wants more water just to save some fish and muscles.
GA has not done a good job of water management itself.
What made it even worse was when the situation got bad the US Goverment debated for over a month about when they should even take up the issue of restricting how much release should take place at the dam. I know the situation, concerning rainfall is no better in TN.
Poor Planing all the way around.

Posted by dvols on February 11, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pacman make it rain!

Posted by utmdm on February 11, 2008 at 10:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dennis, True Border War. LMAO. Football not fair enough? OK, men's BB? Not fair? OK, women's BB? Uhh, Danggg!

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 10:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

utmdm - maybe tug of war. LOL Naw still couldn't win.

Posted by utmdm on February 11, 2008 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK now go lock this one down, Chavis

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Posted by utmdm on February 11, 2008 at 10:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dennis, sounds like they already lost the land survey olympics also.

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols - Yeah, but you have to admit that GA digging up a survey that may or may not have been done right because of the instruments they used when they did the survey in 1818 is BS!! They should be spending that time trying to figure out how to regulate all of the water that is wasted in the Atlanta city limits! I would even go as far as regulating new home construction!! If you can't support the population with water because there is too many people, then that tells you all you need to know!!

Posted by volmattna on February 11, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i agree va vol16 we need to be more aggressive on third down. And we need to be more aggressive on offense also. Well we really need to be a more aggressive football team as a whole go vols!!

Posted by Hacksaw57 on February 11, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jimmy Johnson quote- "How 'Bout Dem Cowboys!"

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

utmdm - where are we on this guy?? Are we on his radar??

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hacksaw57 - Tony Romo quote- "we'll get em next year!"

Posted by Hacksaw57 on February 11, 2008 at 11:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thought I would just throw a monkey wrench into some of the cr** that's been posted tonight.

Posted by DennisVols on February 11, 2008 at 11:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know GA as a whole has not done a good job. When I moved to Forsyth Co in '91 only 8,500 people lived here. Our current population is about 150,000. Metro ATL was only 4 counties when I moved down in '82 and there are now about 20 included on the map. Just one away from the AL state line. Large indrustrial growth during the '90's had a lot to do with it. Unemployment was 1.24% back then. Now with the drought it is above 6%. Many jobs have been lost this last year in part because of the drought.
I think it is silly to bring up something from 1818 now. If the was an issuse why wait that long?
I do think all the states, TN, GA, FL & AL need to work together on some long range plans to better monitor and regulate water usage.

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hacksaw57 - I know I was joking back with you!! That's what all of my Florida fan friends have been saying to me this year!! LOL

Posted by dfreeman on February 11, 2008 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, I have family in Canton, GA! It's nuts watching that place blow up!! If they wanted to tap the Tennessee river short term to fix issues they have, then I'd be ok with that! To try to move borders would be asking for serious trouble!

Posted by smiller on February 12, 2008 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Fulmer approached Kevin Steele at Alabama last month as reported by B'ham News then Chavis may feel he needed to shop around

Posted by thevol on February 12, 2008 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This site has made a serious turn for the worst. I can't believe you still respond to these mental midgets Sjt. Touchdowntn, Cr and their minions sure have ruined this site. Sayonara.

Posted by scvols on February 12, 2008 at 1:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Another example on how Fulmer get his guys ready to move up to the next level. If you are a coach and you want opportunities, you need to work for Fulmer.

Posted by pdhuff on February 12, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Only in the doldrums would a 10th place SEC defensive coach STAYING get 200 posts. Sails are slack.

Posted by beartn on February 12, 2008 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

1. Chavis interviewed because the NFL pays a lot more than college. He is 51, and a couple of years with the Falcons could enable a very comfortable retirement.

2. I find it interesting that his peers who know a lot about football voted him assistant coach of the year, while fans that don't know nearly as much about the game are convinced that he sucks. Also, the NFL would not be interested in someone that sucks.

3. Whatever you think of him, by all acounts, the defensive players love him. I have read comments from players through the years, and that is pretty consistent.

4. I think he did a great job this year. Last year, we lost Inky Johnson and Demetrice Morley, who both had eligibilty left. Roshaun Fellows, another DB that started a couple of games, was dismissed in the offseason. Early this past season, we lost Gaines and Marsalous Johnson. With 85 scholarships, how many programs could lose 5 DB's and not miss a beat? We had an ionexperienced secondary with DE's that could not rush the passer. However, the defense got better as the season progressed. Chavis simplified the defensive schemes so he could get his best athletes on the field to make plays. Cutcliffe, who I do think is an excellent coach, didn't simplify anything to get the young, potentially game breaking WR's on the field for more than a couple of plays. The D got better as the season went along, while the offense never got any better. I thought Chavis did a good job.

Posted by jweaver3 on February 12, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol, Chavis has been good for UT, but the best d-cord. we have had in modern times is Larry Lacewell. That man could evaluate talent and teach it!!!!
99GATOR, I have a 6 figure job and work for one of my best friends and have been here a long time. But, I sent a resume yesterday to a job opening. I have no intentions of leaving my job but, Nothing ventured, Nothing gained!!!
When I originally took this job I had no intentions of taking it but 4 interviews and a "write down what it would take for you to except this job" later. Here I am.
You have to keep your options open because the only thing in life that is guaranteed is CHANGE!!!!
99GATOR I am glad you post on our site, as I've said before all your post are tasteful and never degrading!!!
Your OK
for a GATOR
GO VOLS!!!!
TXVOLSFAN

Posted by Volalumnus on February 12, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis was a big part of the reason that TN had two of their most embarrassing games ever in their history this season.

14 games and everyone want to talk about how good the defense looked in 2 games.

The last 2 years have been some of the weakest defenses on the field in CFB.

Oh yeah thats right the talent is down. At least thats what you hear until you complain about the recruiting, then its, coaches are recruiting good but underrated players.

TN would have been better off if he left.

Posted by bammerslammer on February 12, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The always-negative posters (TommyJack, TouchdownTN, etc) will rag on the program if the assistants stay (saying, in effect, "no one wants these losers..."), but will also rag on the program if the assistants leave ("the rats are leaving the ship"; "if everything is OK w/ the program, why would they be leaving?"). It's called exploring the possibilities, fellas.

This is just proof of their hatred for something ... the head coach, the players, the program, THEMSELVES? Whatever their problems happen to be, they are pretty much out of new ideas and their antagonistic tone is very predictable at this point.

They are staying the course, pounding their fritters, and taking up space.

Posted by Volalumnus on February 12, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

posters posting about posters.
a lot like complaining about the image in the mirror.

Posted by beartn on February 12, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

<<Chavis was a big part of the reason that TN had two of their most embarrassing games ever in their history this season.

14 games and everyone want to talk about how good the defense looked in 2 games.

The last 2 years have been some of the weakest defenses on the field in CFB.

Oh yeah thats right the talent is down. At least thats what you hear until you complain about the recruiting, then its, coaches are recruiting good but underrated players.>>

We will have to agree to disagree. By the time we played Florida, which was a humiliated defeat, we were down 4 DB's from injury or dismissal. By midseason, we only had one reserve corner left. No team has 12 DB's on the team with 85 schollys to give. Vinson was a converted WR that played little DB in high school. I read an interview from a pro coach who said that if he lost his 2 starting corners, and his starting left tackle, the season would be over. I agree that there is no excuse that our DE's couldn't get to the QB. I do think that any team that lost as many DB's as we did would struggle in pass coverage.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Coach Chavis will retire a Vol unless Fulmer is fired. Why would he consider an NFL linebacker job wih the sorry Falcons over a defensive coordinator position at The University of Tennessee? It doesn't make any sense.

Posted by Volalumnus on February 12, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Every team has injuries and players having to step up.
Most of the other teams do so without some of their most embarassing loses ever.

Posted by Volalumnus on February 12, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW
if key players suddenly not being available has a huge impact then I hope we play a team that gets 5 suspended right before the game. We should handle them easily.......oooppps

Posted by jimr07 on February 12, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Chavis is such a poor coach, why was he named assistant coach of the years several years ago.
I, for one, am glad to see that oldtouchdown is not on here. i am sure he will get back with another i.d. and make this site smell again.
tommyjack, i can't figure you out. if you are such a loyal vol fan, why are you so negative all the time. there appears to be a double standard on here any way the difference in the treatment of coach fulmer and coach pearl. when we barely beat vandy and kentucky, fire fulmer was the rage. when we beat the worst team in the sec by two points. it was good win. we'll take a w any way we can get it. I am entirely behind Pearl and Pat and am proud but please treat both programs with some respect.

Posted by Volalumnus on February 12, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Key word... several years ago.....
Look at all the games where someone has a play and they keep running it and running it and running it and running it and running it and running it and running it and running it and running it and running it....................and TN never stops it.

Posted by todd on February 12, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Chief!!!!!!!!!

Posted by waterskier3 on February 12, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

why does he even interview??? every year an nfl team contacts him on a position coach job and he turns them down.... not sure why you would take that move unless you think you could be DC in the nfl within a year because he will go from being the king to being yelled at..... Not saying i would like some new blood on the defense also!!!!

Posted by Volalumnus on February 12, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

time for an upgrade for our defense. One that can force a punt in the second half of most games.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jimr07: I couldn't agree more. Ole TDTN ruined this site with his negative rantings. Only posters who agree with Coach Fulmer and his proposed direction should be able to even post on here. Everyone else should be thrown off the boards just as Oldtouchdown has been. I'd like to personally thank those of you who are responsible for getting him thrown off this site. I only want to read positive remarks about the program - nothing negative.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Vols are very talented and should be in the running to play for the national championship in 2008/2009. What will the naysayers like oldtouchdown say then? Coach Fulmer has the Vols right where they need to be. Pound the fritter.

Posted by sjt18 on February 12, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

volunteer_cowboy,

Vinson is NOT playing out of position. Even his coach in prep school said that as good as he was as a WR at that level, he had first round potential as a corner.

He was not "getting it" at WR. He has the potential to be the best CB UT or maybe even the SEC has ever seen.

His best position by far and away is CB.

Posted by agentorange on February 12, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

if you're on a site called "go vols", expect people to get pissed when you post dumbassed negative comments under every story or if you're some meathead gaytor fan who lives in momma's basement. if you want to vol bash, go on any site for any other sec school and have at it.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you agentorange. Stay off the Go Vols site if you can't say something nice. All these naysayers should be thrown off this site.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Negative comments is a leading reason why The Coach was unable to secure some of the top recruits in the country. The guys we got will be just fine however. They all want to wear ORANGE.
Go Big Orange!

Posted by GerryOP on February 12, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like the inmates have taken over the asylum! KNS, please, please, please put this back to a pay site.

Posted by auttat on February 12, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Has it really gotten to the point where we nitpick every single move these guys make? Give it a rest.

"Honey, Johnny didn't eat in the cafeteria this morning, he must be dropping out of school."

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jim407: I'm not negative. I love Coaches Summitt & Pearl.

Posted by sjt18 on February 12, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Has TDTN returned as a parody?

Posted by jimr07 on February 12, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack--that is my point. it does not help when you continue to degrade football. you are entitled to your opinion, though. as i am. it is just if you are loyal, you are loyal through good times and bad.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JimR: I guess I just don't get your position. I think there are problems in the football program. I choose to point them out. This isn't negativity. You think I should get life without for having a different point of view?

Posted by tngeoff on February 12, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with GerryOP. Make it a pay site. That will eliminate all the posters who pose as different screen names and hide behind their little safety net of hidden identity. Pay to post. Bring it on.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoffrey: Suits me. You think it would make a difference?

Posted by GerryOP on February 12, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Geoff, it might also inhibit this mass of posters who seem to show up around 3:30PM-4:00PM every weekday afternoon and flood this board with one-line zingers that are basically just attacks on other posters. I really do not remember this kind of stuff going on when it was a pay site, and I go back several years. Even during the debate over that guy who moved to Conway, SC, the exchanges did not get this vitriolic. Oh, well, life goes on!

Posted by newtonrail on February 12, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have never " Cut and Pasted" a Post on here before, but I wrote this late yesterday another post and is appropriate:

Posted by newtonrail on February 11, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This seems to have evolved into a discussion about what we expect from this Blog, and therein lies the problem. A lot of us who live outside the normal KNS delivery area signed up for the original pay site to get Vol News. We had couple of fairly structured follow up blogs written by semi pros that we commented on. Now we have basically Three different camps in blog area: 1)Those who liked or least thought civility was required, and 2) Those who like a free for all, almost anything, any kind of language*(($$## goes, and 3)of course like any Bell curve, those somewhere in the middle. My opinions of coaches, play calling, etc. have been all over the place. The negativism has even pulled me from anti-Fulmer to somewhat pro-Fulmer. I enjoy reading comments from GerryO from near my era, and many others I could name. I know some get on here now to cause mischief, and that I wish were restricted to Public Sites. I read on here a lot about "Rights to Ones Opinion". Sure you have that, but with it comes responsibility to the Rest of Us in this Blogging Society. For those who are newer to the site, this is the reason IMO you read comments on here about wishing this returned to a pay site. FYI.

Looks like TD or a clone is back.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yea, bring it on. I want to pay to read GoVols.com. Naysayers are generally poor and cannot afford to post. Get rid of them. Only allow true Vol fans on this site. Charge $100 a year.

Posted by hueypilot on February 12, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Absolutely it would make a difference. Most of these tin horns' fists would swell up in their pockets at the notion of having to pay the princely sum of 3.95 a month. Did not have this level of mean spiritidness when it was a pay site. Objective discussion about good and bad facets of TN football is one thing. Calling Fulmer an imbecile and these puerile name calling jags like Foolmer, Foolmore and all its variations, plus the stupid Krispy Kreme, Fritter theme, are very tiresome and just irritate most fans, at least they irritate the hell out of me. And since it went free, Busybody hasn't posted his pearls ?? of wisdom. I miss them, even though I never understood them.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack - You just do not get it. We are here to read positive comments about the Vols. You are not a true fan if you are constantly posting negative comments. The problems you mention are over blown, untruths, or just a figment of your imagination. You should have been kicked off this site along with all the other naysayers. As far as I am concerned, your not much different from CRVol.

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ & tngeoff-
There are paysites for the Vols already out there. I'm not on them b/c at this time there's no room in the family budget. I for one am glad to have this opportunity to communicate with other Vol fans. If y'all would prefer to post on a paysite, I can understand that also & won't criticize you guys for leaving.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney: Maybe buy less food so you can pay for GoVols.com. Just a suggestion.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen.Fritter: I feel so ashamed. I don't know if I can afford $3.95 a mo. out of my guv'ment check.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack: That's the point. You can the rest of the poor naysayers need to get a life and leave the rest of us alone. We are not interested in reading your druel. We are Vol fans and want to discuss Tennessee football. That's why we want it to become a pay site so guys like you don't ruin it for us all.

Posted by tngeoff on February 12, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ToomyJack and GerryOP.

I'm for it 100%. I hear a few making snide references about folks ability to pay. I seriously doubt they know the people they are impuning or what their financial worth really is. As for me? Pay or no pay I'm gonna' say what I think about coaches, play calling, recruiting, arrests, success, failure or whatever. I'm not going to act like "Everything is beautiful" if it's not. I don't call names. I rarely personalize anything, unless somebody is just so out of line that it deserves a pointed response. This is not, never has been and never will be such a formal place that humor, dry or overt are a breach of the rules and guidelines. Many don't know how to relax and make it light. That's their problem. Dang. Some sound like they shave, shower, put on a tuxedo, take a deep cleansing breath and then sit down to espouse their perceived brilliance. It's a strange and eclectic group, but pay would improve...no doubt.

Posted by tngeoff on February 12, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang. TommyJack...not ToomyJack.

Posted by hueypilot on February 12, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IF the tin horn hat fits wear it. This site is also loaded with "fans" who haven't actually been to a game in years. Won't commit $55 for a game ticket much less 3.95 for a pay site. Hit that remote and watch them Vols on ESPN. Yessir. That's a real Vol Fan. Anybody suggest any of the paysites that might be a little less vitriolic?

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ-
I agree that it's every fan's right and privilege to evaluate and discuss the perceived problems of their favorite team. But discussing issues is far different than a blanket condemnation of a coach or the staff as a whole or the program as a whole. I think it's clear that I recognize there are areas the Vols could improve upon [just like each of us and every other NCAA team] but just b/c a ship needs to go in for maintenance and upgrades doesn't call for "man the lifeboats-every man for himself."

Posted by tngeoff on February 12, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney:

In an equally generous thought process...there are other free sites as well. Reread your suggestion, apply what I just told you and think about that.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Make it $100 a month. Let's get serious about cleaning up this site. I'm in. Go Vols!

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

General_Fritter:

I don't know whether to salute or throw powdered sugar at you. All I know is you'll never be half the man that OldTouchdownTN was. And you make Dupree look like Stephen Hawking.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

cjrainey: I'm very disappointed in you. Vols do not need to improve on anything. When Tennessee wins the national championship next year, I can't wait to hear what the naysayers have to say. Well, we had a bad recruiting year in 2006. You think true Vols will care? The best coach in America will be holding up the Sears Cup.

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It just appears that many on here have decided Fulmer is "bad, incompetent, or whatever" regardless of what steps he takes to improve the team. That is fairly obvious when we fall short of an SEC title by a TD to the eventual Nat'l Champ and some are unable to publicly acknowledge our team improved over the season and represented UT proudly. Personally I believe that efforts to improve the team should be judged on their own merits, not based on one's opinion of the person making the decisions. Look at it this way, if we lead the country in defense next year, will anyone care what scheme we employ to do it? Of course not. Evaluate the results, not the person.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK. I just want to get along.

Posted by sjt18 on February 12, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ et al. Isn't it a little inconsistent to rip others for not wanting to hear dissenting or critical opinions then turn around and say that it should become a paysite again because there are people who post whose opinions you don't appreciate?

Posted by newtonrail on February 12, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TD, uh the General is back.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTVol39: Ah, another fool TDTN lover. That nut case is hopefully locked up forever. Good riddance. From the sounds of the post above, it sounds like a lot more of you need to go as well.
Only true Vols fans should be allowed to post. Maybe the GoVols Admin could screen the post before they are posted. Just a suggestion.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

newtonrail: What? Have you lost your newton?

Posted by auttat on February 12, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Forget Fulmer!!

I want General_Fritter as the HC. We all know coaches are only as good as their last media interview and this guy would be a hoot.

Every hillbilly and redneck in the south would be crawling out from under their rock to play for this guy.

All he needs to do is come up with a hand signal to go along with his yell of TOUCHDOWNTN!!!!!!! after every score.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

SJT: I say make it cost so much that TJ will drop out. The question is how much can he afford? We need Dr. Spiva to do a price elasticty study on this board to see how many naysayers we could get rid of with a price hike.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Figgy: I noticed.

sjt: I haven't proposed it..don't care either way.

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff-
If you or others prefer to poke fun at me rather than discuss football that's fine. I promise you it changes nothing in my life.
When this became a paysite, I switched to the Tennessean for Vols info. If it goes back to a paysite, that's what I'll do again until my earnings increase.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Back to football. I for one am glad Coach C is back. Without Coach C, we would have a very difficult time of winning the national championship next year.

Posted by txsvol on February 12, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Chief has had his good and bad moments as our defensive coordinator. Friends who have seen every game he's coached can't stand the way our defense lets other teams convert third and long with regularity. On balance, he's one of Phil's long-time coaching cronies, and a loyal UT alum who will have to have a Randy Sanders year before Phil would consider ditching him, or allow the option of his resignation. You can be sure that he's weighing job security issues when he turns down a financial promotion to linebackers coach for the Falcons. So, he might make $100,000/year more for a year or two, and then be out with nothing. It's better to get his UT retirement completely vested, and then, take the plunge. I agree with most others, 99gator is an intelligent voice on this site. Too bad we can't say that for some of the others. Go Vols! SAVol

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fritter-
Chief's defense thrives when it has a D-line that can get some pressure. W/o that, we're going to give up some yards through the air. I like that style, but we haven't had the personnel on the line the last couple years. In that situation I would've liked to have seen more adjustments to better fit the current talent.
But overall, I like his style and think we will see some improvement on the D-line this season.

Posted by tngeoff on February 12, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney.

Question:

Have I ever "poked fun at you?"

Answer:

Never

If you are referring to the above offer, please reread it. It was simply the same offer you made. No "fun". Just a different perspective on your offer. I find your posts to be sensible on the norm and never say anything to you. Am I wrong?

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen.Frit: The Chief is a loyal vol. He wasn't interested in leaving. Probably just needed his quotient of grease from The Varsity. He's "happy and delighted" to be at TN.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

auttat: I find your post offensive and degrading.
I have a PhD from The University of Tennessee and do not find your post the least bit tasteful. If you continue, I will complain to the web administrators in an attempt to have you reprimanded.
Good day Sir.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I once saw TDTN spread KC Masterpiece on a live pig, put a piece of toast on the pigs head, eat it and call it a BBQ sandwich.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTVol39 - Keep TDTN locked out. No more druel.

cjraney - Vols should be #1 in the nation in defense next year now that they have a year under their belt. I just do not understand why everyone is so critical. What will naysayers say after Coach Fulmer is #1 next year?

TommyJack - I do not believe Coach Chavis even considered leaving Knoxville.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis interviewed with the Falcons but soon realized that he couldn't work at an organization that did not utilize player progress charts (or PPC's as they are known to those in the inner circle). That was the deal breaker - trust me I have an inside source. My uncle's last name is Tennessee and they named the University after him so I have contacts!!!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTVol39: That is sick. Are you a friend of Touchdown?

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's it. UTVol39 must be TDTN. Get rid of this guy.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TDTN can blow bubbles with beef jerky

Posted by sgtvols on February 12, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

who wouldn't want the 73rd best defensive coach in the nation. go big orange.

Posted by sgtvols on February 12, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

who wouldn't want the 11th best defensive coach in the sec? go big orange

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bring back Randy Sanders as Defensive Coordinator. When he was OC he was great at stopping the offense and creating turnovers for the defense. I think he'd be perfect for the job.

Fire Chavis!!!
Free TDTN!!!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Make that $200 a month pay site.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General_Fritter: You know that if you charge $200 a month that most people can't afford that. Take your every-day run-of-the-mill greeter...say at the Halls Crossroads Wal-Mart. There is no way he can swing $200 big ones a month.

Free TDTN!!!!

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff-
Point taken. And the following is not directed to you or any one person

My only real "point" is that I'm here to read and talk football. That includes criticisms, questions, and dissenting opinions. But regarding our coaching staff etc., I believe analysis should be limited to their professional roles, i.e. what they do in their jobs working for UT. A bad coaching decision deserves criticism. A successful strategy deserves recognition.

If CPF eats a dozen fritters for breakfast, lunch and supper that's his own personal business. I get sick of reading folks denigrate our coaches and program for irrelevant issues. Unfortunately the same folks usually refuse to acknowledge any positives which may occur. It's just childish and tiresome. Just one Vol's opinion.

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Posted by tngeoff on February 12, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney.

I hear ya' and agree with most of what you say. I have never spoken about Fulmers physical condition and never will. Keep the Faith! Tennessee Football is a great thing! Always has been for me and always will!

Posted by jobrando on February 12, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The people that want a pay site are the web site owner and all his associates. Now we know who they are. Why would anybody want to pay to read all the negative crap. However, some people make good post and pass along good info. I can wade through the negative for free.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jimr07: please tell me you did not call me ignorant and then misspell asinine. If this was face to face you'd see me laughing and pointing at you. jimr07 your stupidity overwhelms me. You sir make Dupree look like a Russian Chess Champion.

Free TDTN!!!

Posted by jimr07 on February 12, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UTVol39--i notice that you did not take issue with what i said but attacked me personally.. that is fair because i attacked you. you deserve every word. and, the other comments, coming from you i consider them a compliment. i always consider the source and move. better to keep mouth shut and look like a fool than open it and remove all doubt.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jimr07: We knew what you meant to say and it was apreciated (sorry - I could not resist).

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Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Boys, boys, boys. Why all the angst? We are all Vol brethren here. Let's move forward together.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jimr07: Your comparison of me to TDTN was the greatest honor you could ever give me and for that I am truly thankful. TDTN is so tough he uses 8'x10' sheets of plywood as toilet paper and I only wish our D-line was half as tough as he is.

As for you, you claim to consider the source and move. But if you did you'd know that my uncle's last name is Tennessee and they named the University after him. What better source can you get? If I were you, I'd just hang on and ride the wave that is UTVOL39.

Free TDTN!!!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's the way to tell him Jimbo. UTVol39 is a genius with an idiot's brain.

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Posted by pdhuff on February 12, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen Fritter - I would like to take this opportunity to welcome you to this here postings.

You have already shown the acumen, manual dexerity and aplomb to be considered among the elite. I predict you'll go far in life.

Do you have any more of those "Get a dozen glazed free" coupons you dropped off the other day?

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually Jimbo. I must admit I laughed at that one, but don't tell anyone.

GOVOLS SITE MANAGER - MAKE THIS A PAY SITE!

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jimr07: i am greatly offended by your lack of decency and class. your last post was both offensive and disgusting and I for one won't stand for it.

Ride the Wave!!!
Free TDTN!!!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff: I consider it an honor Sir. Thank you.
I must admit that I do not understand the anti-Vol rhetoric on this site. Other sites are painted Orange except for an occassional vist from a farm boy from Alabama.

Posted by jimr07 on February 12, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack--how can we move on with negative stuff being posted. i signed on here to get news about tennessee sports and find this bunch nattering nabobs of negativity. i live in houston and i can hardly find the scores in the Houston Chronicle. much to my amazemnet, the newspaper in Knoxville is almost as bad as some of the posters. little do they realize that i am guessing 70% of their readers and advertisers are loyal UT fans. having said that, it probably shows why newspapers all across the country are losing subscribers. blogs and the internet is fast replacing daily newspapers.

Posted by bigorangedude on February 12, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't believe an NFL team would want Chavis. What has he done lately at UT? Notice it says he interviewed, not that they were actually interested. And if he is so happy about staying at UT, then why interview in the first place. Chavis does this every few years to try and get some love from UT fans I believe, especially after a mediocre year. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but his coaching these past 2 years have been average at best.

Posted by jimr07 on February 12, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UTVol39--remember to keep the faith. with supporters like you, we don't need the bama fans. i hope we can go all the way and you will be be happy with that. however, it is my observation that it will probably not make you happy.

Posted by BillVol on February 12, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can anyone verify that he was actually interviewed by the Falcons? Who interviewed him? Where? This is NOTHING about this in the AJC.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What the hell is going on???I'm gone for a few days, come back to see what's going on, and read a story on Chief that turns into a pissing contest beetween posters.Upon suggestion from pdhuff ,when I get in a frenzy, all I have to do is get an apple fritter,a glass of milk, and everything just fades away. General_Fritter ,Tommy Jack is not a problem.He usually does things in good fun , and doesn't use foul language.#5005

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jimr07: you're not even close on this one. the only thing that would make me happier than for UT to be in contention this year would be for the KNS to Free TDTN!!!

Ride the Wave!!!!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack ,no problem.By the way my wife doesn't get mad anymore when I say pound the fritter.I took her to get one and everything was beutiful.What happened to TDTN?

Posted by pdhuff on February 12, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack 11:50 a.m. - Quiz- now think afore you answer - Which has more grease -A. a 1/2 gallon of Crisco or B. small order of onion rings from the Varsity?

Beat Arkie.

Posted by bigorangedude on February 12, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Falcons must be getting desperate. Does anyone know if Chavis owns any pit bulls?

Posted by sjt18 on February 12, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage, take a look at UTVol39 and General_Fritter's profile.

I don't know why but TDTN got booted but he re-appeared as ole TDTN... then disappeared... and now we have these other two manifestations.

Who really knows how many screen names he and VolCR have used... if indeed they aren't one and the same.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TDTN is a loser like the rest of you naysayers. One by one, you will be dismissed!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That means you Vol39. I'm just waiting until you slip up.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you sjt18.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange: TDTN was dismissed. The rest of the naysayers are going down soon as well. Not calling out any names Vol39.

Posted by UTVol39 on February 12, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General_Fritter: Please follow these easy steps when posting.

1) Remove head from anus
2) Post

Let's work on number 1 first, then we'll try the next step.

Ride the Wave!!!
Free TDTN!!!

Posted by bigorangedude on February 12, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm fairly new to this forum and I didn't realize so many people change their names. Some of you are regulars, as I always see your names. I'm assuming these are people who are being booted off or are they are just making people mad and changing their names?

Posted by bigorangedude on February 12, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UTVol39- I didnt realize you were Chuck Norris *LOL* Hey man I voted for Huckabee, so I hope we're cool!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For those interested, some insight on Montori Hughes.(From Rivals.com)One of Hughes' biggest fans is Smyrna High School head coach Phil Shadowens. Shadowens has coached against Hughes and also has coached him.

"I have been impressed with him for a couple of years," Shadowens said. "He played in our region, and he was the best defensive player we went against. He has a high motor. He is physically strong, and he plays so hard. You had to scheme around him. You are not going to run power plays right at him because you couldn't move him. We just couldn't block him up front."

Having gone against him for years, Shadowens was anxious to get to work with him as his coach in the East-West All-Star game back in December.

"I had told every college coach that came by here to see me about Rod (Wilks) that they should check out this kid," Shadowens said. "I was anxious to see how he matched up against those offensive linemen who were committed to other Division I schools. I promise you he was unblockable in one-on-one drills. He played with great leverage and he has really good hips. He was definitely the best defensive player all week."

Following that game, Tennessee stepped up its recruitment of Hughes. Shadowens believes Tennessee has gotten a guy who in a couple of years will have everyone asking why he only had two or three stars.

"If he gets his academics in order, he will play early up there," Shadowens said. "I am telling you he is a good, good football player. He reminds you a little bit of Albert Haynesworth. He has long arms and really uses that to his advantage to keep people off of him."

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Where is the posivol enforcer? He could rip a hole in you naysayers.

Enough of this nonsense. I want to discuss football. I feel like I'm having conversations with 3 year olds.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange - With Montori Hughes, I feel we have an excellent chance of winning the national championship. The analysts are wrong about the vast majority of our kids. They are some of the best players in the country because Phil knows how to recruit.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bigorangedude - If UTVol39 is Chuck Norris, I'm Captain Kangaroo.

Posted by bigorangedude on February 12, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General_Fritter Haven't you noticed though how well UTVol39 defends himself on here. It could be Chuck! Also I hate to tell you this, but Captain Kangaroo is dead!

Posted by bigorangedude on February 12, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sure got quiet in here. Must be breaktime! I'm outta here, Go Vols!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bigorangedude - Captain Kangaroo will always be alive in my heart. Chuck Norris. Yea right.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PD: I would go with the order of rings. Back in the day, I could down 6 of those dogs, plus the rings. Probably still could. lol

Posted by cjraney on February 12, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage @ 2.58-
Thanks for the info. Hope that coach is right.

Posted by philfan on February 12, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The fact that Chavis has been contacted by the NFL on several occasions just shows that he is a respected coach. Does anyone read the article that preceeds the comments or do people just start blogging at random? It said that Chavis won the American Football Coaches Association Division 1-A assistant coach of the year following the 2006 season. He also helped win the 1998 championship, which was won largely by a great defense. To be a successful coach, one has to be willing to move and move a lot. I can think of very few college football coaches that have stayed put for many, many years. Spurrier has moved several times. We should be pleased when one of our coaches is asked to move up to the NFL or is interviewed by an NFL team.

Posted by posivol on February 12, 2008 at 4:41 p.m.

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Posted by beartn on February 12, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volalumnus <<Every team has injuries and players having to step up.
Most of the other teams do so without some of their most embarassing loses ever.>>

You must not pay attention to college football. Booty wasn't effective playing hurt, and USC lost to 41 point underdog Stanford at home. That cost them a shot at the title. Pat White was hurt early in the game against a horrible Pitt team that ended up beating West Virginia, knocking them out of the title game. Oregon went from likely title contender to an embarrassing stretch of losses after Dixon went down. Tebow's inability to run when he was banged up was a big factor in Florida losing to Georgia. LSU was missing 2 starters on defense and McFadden (a player we totally shut down) ran all over them.

Yes, injuries are part of the game. However, anyone that expects no drop off in the secondary after losing Inky Johnson, Demetrice Morley, Roshaun Fellows, Antonio Gaines, and Marsalous Johnson is delusional. In all my years of following the Vols, I have never seen that many players lost at the same position in so short a time.

To the defense's credit, they got better as the seaon went along. They shut down McFadden and Arkansas. They played well enough to win the SECCG (the offense blew that one), and they won the Outback Bowl for us when the offense went scoreless in the second half. They weren't great, but they were pretty good by the end of the season, even with all the players they needed to replace.

Posted by posivol on February 12, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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Posted by posivol on February 12, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18--savage, take a look at UTVol39 and General_Fritter's profile.

I don't know why but TDTN got booted but he re-appeared as ole TDTN... then disappeared... and now we have these other two manifestations.

Who really knows how many screen names he and VolCR have used... if indeed they aren't one and the same.

and now he fights with himself.......lol

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange - Funny how you said TommyJack doesn't use foul language and then you yourself use it in the same paragraph. Nice. I wished we could get rid of these poor excuse for Vol fans.
Make this a pay site please and get rid of the simple minds like TDTN.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posivol - I'm not sure exactly what you are suggesting. I certainly hope you are not lumping me in with UTVol39. We have been trying to get rid of that guy all day.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General_Fritter ,Sorry I don't consider hell a foul word.If anyone was offended by me using the word hell, please let me know so I may personally appologize.I don't even think sjt18 would jump me for that one.5005!!!!!!!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18 ,Just kidding my friend.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage: Don't get him started!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack, gotcha.Is hell a bad word?Please don't take my fritters!!

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was offended Savage with your language, but then that is just me. From the looks of some of these posts, I'm probably on the wrong board anyway. I expected serious football talk, but all I see is personal attacks and foul language. I thought it would be better after TDTN and CRVOL were gone. I see I was wrong. Peace out.

Posted by jimbo37918 on February 12, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis is one of if not the best DC in the SEC and the nation we had a player on the Giants defense in Gibril Wilson and there has been quite a bit of players in the NFL thanks to Chavis so all you haters go hate some one else

Posted by thesavageorange on February 12, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General_Fritter, Then I appologize.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 12, 2008 at 7:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Apology accepted Sir. We are all one happy Big Orange Family....or at least that is how it should be. Sure hope Fumer can quite all the naysayers next season with a national championship trophy.

Agree jimbo37918.

Posted by TommyJack on February 12, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

...someones singing, Lord, Kumbaya

Posted by jimbo37918 on February 12, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes i do well said GO BIG ORANGE

Posted by pdhuff on February 12, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General Fritter - always remember- recognize reality, admire talent and realise the real meaning of reason.

Reality has little place on this forum.

Go Vandy - beat KY - Vols - beat Arkie.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on February 12, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator:

I read about 1/3rd the way through this string, and I kept seeing you "ask" why Chavis would "look into" a job with the Falcons, when the Falcons are in "such a mess"...you further implied that a job with the Vikings or another team that is in stable condition would be more reasonable (and less suspicious) for Chavis to be looking into.

I hate to say this, but you are not really being logical here. You must realize something. Elite coaches at Div I or NFL level are very ego-driven beings. Once you have reached a certain level of success and respect, I imagine the "dream" of such a head coach is to turn a program that is in complete disarray into a champion. That, after all, would make you a legend and your coaching credentials would be undisputed.

Take Spurrier and Fulmer as primary examples.

Spurrier found a Duke program in shambles and made it an ACC contender. He went on to his Alma Mater, turned it around and made it a national champion team. Nobody questions Spurrier's legitimate claim to being one of the best SEC coaches ever.

Then you have Fulmer, who has also coached a team to a national title, and who has impressive stats, winning percentages, and has sent tons of talent to the NFL. Yet he is constantly the butt of everyone's jokes. Why? Because he took over a HEALTHY Tennessee program (ie Johnny Majors) and the perception is he has won DESPITE his shortcomings as a coach.

Now, do you see why a coach might find taking a job with a program in a shambles as a CHALLENGE and a potential to create his LEGACY?

I think that makes perfect sense.

Posted by LargeOrange on February 12, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmp, General_Fritter it is now? Amazing, a new poster signs up today and has already logged 62 posts so far! Gives a whole new meaning to the common, yet annoying, "pound the fritter" posts. LOL I wonder is TDTN banned from the famous "Hater Tailgate party" next fall, or will the good General take his place? LOL (again)

Posted by nicksjuzunk on February 13, 2008 at 3:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So, how bout Abrams-Ward? Should be tough huh?

Posted by GerryOP on February 13, 2008 at 6:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vol-in-lsu-land - A very interesting and rational way to look at the Fulmer dilemma! You could have added, "... he took over a HEALTHY Tennessee program ... with a legendary football history ..." Let us hope that with his recent hirings, that the new folks will fill in Fulmer's coaching weaknesses.

I agree that Fulmer is a good coach who appears great based on his "numbers" and legacy at UT. However, GREAT coaches with a NC hanging on the wall do not allow a decade to pass without at least adding another conference championship to the trophy case.

Posted by philfan on February 13, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP;

You nailed it. We are all proud of Fulmer's .77 winning percentage which is the best in the nation, his SEC championships, the National Championship in 1998, and the many SEC East trophies. At this point I would settle for a blowout loss in a BCS bowl next year. We have not been to a BCS bowl in many years. I hope these new coaches are as good as they have been hyped. This next season will either be a great success or a disaster.

Posted by philfan on February 13, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP;

You nailed it. We are all proud of Fulmer's .77 winning percentage which is the best in the nation, his SEC championships, the National Championship in 1998, and the many SEC East trophies. At this point I would settle for a blowout loss in a BCS bowl next year. We have not been to a BCS bowl in many years. I hope these new coaches are as good as they have been hyped. This next season will either be a great success or a disaster.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 13, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said Philfan and GerryOP.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 13, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange - I do like a good tailgate. However, we usually ride up the river for the games. Are you a tailgater?

Posted by General_Fritter on February 13, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bigorangedude - as a dog lover, I am offended by your Chavis joke in reference to Mike Vicks cruelty to bulldogs. Very poor taste Sir and I am ashamed that it made me laugh.

Posted by pdhuff on February 13, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow. 340 posts for a coach staying.

We'll probably get 680 posts if we hold someone. anybody, under 300 yards next fall. Maybe too much to ask for, dunno.

Snowing in the doldrums.

Posted by NatiVol on February 13, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I posted this and it is not here. so here it is again:
"If Mr. Chavis is happy and delighted to be at Tennessee why did he interview with the Falcons?"

Ok, have we not all looked or even interviewed for other jobs even if we are happy with the one we have? Sometimes you see what else is there, money, chance to advance, etc. He stayed either because he saw this is the place for him, or because it was not the right job to leave for, or time, or money, or no offer. You can't come down on him. If this becomes a pattern of looking for something else, then get on his case but everyone deserves a chance to see what else is out there.

Posted by General_Fritter on February 13, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NatiVol - I agree Sir. Coach Chavis is a class act and a true Volunteer. He has every right as an American to look elsewhere, but it will be hard for him to leave the beautiful hills of Tennessee.
Go Vols!

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