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Packers trade DT Williams to Cleveland for 2nd-round pick

By Greg A. Bedard
Thursday, Feb 28 2008, 09:13 PM

Green Bay - The Packers have agreed to trade defensive tackle Corey Williams to the Cleveland Browns for a second-round pick.

The deal will be announced after Williams agrees to a new contract and passes a physical.

The trade was first reported on the website of the Washington Post.

The Browns pick would be the 25th of the second round and 56th overall. The Packers also have their own 60th overall selection.

The Journal Sentinel reported Tuesday that league insiders thought the Packers would seek a second-round pick for Williams.

The Packers surprised some by placing the franchise tag on Williams, which called for any club to surrender two first-round picks to the Packers if they signed Williams. But by placing the tag on Williams, Packers general manager Ted Thompson basically bought more time to either sign Williams to a long-term contract, or trade him for less that two first-round picks. It appears the Packers have opted to do the latter.

Since Williams has been tagged by the Packers, the move is essentially a sign-and-trade. Williams will sign his franchise tender ($6.363 million for one season) with the Packers and then be traded to the Cleveland Browns, who will sign Williams to a long-term contract.

The trade will likely appease Williams, who posted seven sacks each of the past two seasons despite being a part-time player on the Packers deep defensive line. Getting the franchise tag keeps players from getting any money up front in the form of a signing bonus. Williams should receive a hefty signing bonus in addition to a multi-year contract.

Comments

van77d   

Let's hope it brings us something good.

February 28, 2008 9:15 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

Good move by TT, getting something for someone they didn't plan on keeping anyway. Hope it's a 2nd round pick.

February 28, 2008 9:18 PM  |  ReportAbuse

packrule   

It better not be less than a 2nd round pick, or we should have kept him.  Good defensive linemen are too hard to find.

February 28, 2008 9:21 PM  |  ReportAbuse

JERSEYPACKER   

Bad move!! Packers needed a deep D-Line rotation.  Look what the Giants did with that D-Line.

February 28, 2008 9:25 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

The speculating is absurd until the terms of the deal - which is not even official - are announced.

Idiocy.

February 28, 2008 9:34 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

I think more is coming of this. In a limited market for starting D linemen the Browns are giving more than a 2nd. Don't be suprised if it is Winslow and a 3rd for Williams. I wouldn't be suprised if the Favre release was not a spoof and we see D. Anderson in GB on Saturday. Hmmmmm.

February 28, 2008 9:35 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Cheezehead 4 Life   

Jersey - Bad move?  Are you watching the ESPN bottomline where they said the Raiders just signed some no-name DT to a $50 million contract???  What do you think Williams would want if this guy got $50 million???  Williams wasn't the second coming of Warren Sapp so Thompson would be a fool to even risk negotiating with him if he could accumulate addition draft picks.  Our defensive line was banged up last year, but it's by no means our weakest position.  It's not like he traded a linebacker or a cornerback.  

February 28, 2008 9:37 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Stud-T   

Lou - I think you are smoking funny grass . . .

February 28, 2008 9:38 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Cheezehead 4 Life   

Glenn - Why are you such a tight a-- about everything???  You go on every board criticizing people for having a opinion.  The purpose of these message boards is for the fans to discuss topics of interest.  So if we want to speculate, assume, guess, estimate or anything else, then we have the freedom to do it!  If you don't want to participate, you're more than free to continue watching for the latest updates in your granny's basement and scream with joy when the facts are revealed.

Until then, let the fans be fanatics because that is what we enjoy and JSOnline gave us this forum to do it.

Idiot.

February 28, 2008 9:40 PM  |  ReportAbuse

cvill06   

for braylon edwards?  id jizz

February 28, 2008 9:40 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

Stud. I would agree that the Anderson Favre is a little "whackey" but there is something big coming with Williams. I'd have to agree with Cheez that the move by the Raiders (or as I would call it a suicide contract) would bring more to the table for the Pack. What do you think a 2nd is enough?

February 28, 2008 9:41 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

JerseyPacker, the return of John Jolly and Colin Cole will give the pack a good d-line rotation. Like it or not Justin H. is TT's boy, so he is gonna make room for him.

February 28, 2008 9:42 PM  |  ReportAbuse

superfly   

NO!!!

I liked him. I think it is a bad move!

February 28, 2008 9:44 PM  |  ReportAbuse

packrule   

Lou, I don't think TT would trade for Kellen Winslow.  He has a chronicaly bad knee and he's griping about his contract.  Simply put, he is not Packer People.

February 28, 2008 9:46 PM  |  ReportAbuse

HammerTime??   

Didn't we all really know deep down Williams was gone right after the tag was used.

No way TT was gonna pay over $6M for one year to a part time DT.

Personally I hate to see CW go but hopefully whatever we get makes it worth it.  Gotta trust TT I guess.

February 28, 2008 9:47 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Stud-T   

Lou - I'd love to see the Pack get Winslow, but I don't really think Cleveland is giving up more than a 2nd for Williams.  So, yes.  I'd say a 2nd is enough.  But I'd love to see more.

February 28, 2008 9:47 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

Somebody thinks it's responsible to render a judgment on a trade which hasn't been announced and that has terms that are unknown?

Idiocy.

February 28, 2008 9:47 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

Cheesehead4life, I agree, Glenn needs to take a chill pill. The guy thinks he's a blog god or something. Glenn, chill the f*** out!

February 28, 2008 9:48 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Stud-T   

Glenn - Why do we have to be "responsible" for anything in a sports blog?  Speculate away, I say!

February 28, 2008 9:49 PM  |  ReportAbuse

superbeecharger   

lets see, Cleveland has no first round draft choice this year so thats out, Kellen Winslow would be a huge piece, but I suspect that either Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn are involved with a lower round draft choice

February 28, 2008 9:50 PM  |  ReportAbuse

yogimiester   

Cheezehead4life,

Hit it on the nail!!!!!!!!!!!!

February 28, 2008 9:51 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

Glenn, people are rendering a judgement on the report that we read above, what part of that don't you get?

February 28, 2008 9:51 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

Packrule. I hope not. I agree. KW is a basket case with way too much ego. With the tag it would require a 1st round or something equal. TT has proven that he knows what he is doing. I myself was a anti TT guy until the season played out and he backed every move he made. With that said the Browns have no 1st rd pick and no one to offer of equal value. I know TT likes his picks but there has to be more. Maybe just wishfull thinking on my end but a trade with the Browns doesn't make sense without the 1st round pick. Possible 1st Rd in 2009?

February 28, 2008 9:51 PM  |  ReportAbuse

unclebuck   

it's a smart play by Thompson.  TT had the leverage and he used it properly.  Players leave, that's the way that it is.  i suspect once we see the huge deal Williams is getting all the naysayers will step aside.  If it's anything more than a 3rd, be very happy.

And I agree that much of the point of these message boards is to speculate, chat, etc.  So why go with idiocy?  If it's that bothersome to you, why come here and post?

February 28, 2008 9:52 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

GlenninTampon... Go pull your string. You're dripping.

February 28, 2008 9:55 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

Bedard's report is labeled in CAPS "DEVELOPING." The transaction, if there is one, is yet to be revealed. How anyone can possibly comment about the Packers being better or worse over a trade that hasn't publically materialized - without knowing even the tentative terms -  is whacked.

February 28, 2008 9:59 PM  |  ReportAbuse

superbeecharger   

didn't get to finish what I was going to say.  Because Cleveland has no first round draft choice I think that they want to keep their second round choice.  i think it is CW and our 2nd or 3rd for either Quinn, Winslow or Anderson and a 3rd or 4th from Cleveland.  Just wishful thinking but how about Kameron Wimbley, Brodney Pool or Sean Jones??

February 28, 2008 10:00 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Strohman   

THing is that if Cleve trades for Williams they are going to have to sign him to a big contract.  So they are not going to be likely to give up too much to get him.  A 2nd would be about right.  Good move if it happens.  I didn't think w/ the depth at DT he would be sticking around, even though I like him as a player.  Cleve plays a 3/4 so he will be playing DE in their defense.  not NT...  It is actually the best position for him, better than DT in 4/3.  Wonder if Thompson uses this pick to trade up in 1st or if he uses it and trades down for more picks...

February 28, 2008 10:00 PM  |  ReportAbuse

packrule   

Lou-I would be shocked if it was more than this years 2nd and maybe a backup corner.  There is no way TT is getting a 1st round pick for CW.

February 28, 2008 10:01 PM  |  ReportAbuse

packrule   

Profootballtalk.com says it is this years 2nd.

February 28, 2008 10:04 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Occam's Electric Razor   

Glenn, guys like you amuse me.  Is someone holding a gun to your head, forcing you to read our comments?  Do you want me to call 911 for you?

Back on topic, I'm excited for this trade because it's like getting something for free since he could have gone right to free agency.  A second rounder would be just fine with me.  Also excited for Cleveland to get another player because they're my sentimental AFC team.  

February 28, 2008 10:05 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

Glenn, your manners need DEVELOPING!

February 28, 2008 10:06 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BrewFan20   

super, the NFL rarely trades players for players, and especially not ones of the caliber you mentioned. This isn't Madden 2009. The Packers aren't getting Winslow, Quinn or Anderson ... that's silliness.

If Ted Thompson liked Brady Quinn he would have taken him last year at 16. Sorry but your little scenario is just retarded.

February 28, 2008 10:08 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

Packrule and Strohs good point.

I just see TT to conservative to give up a $6M+ contract for a 2nd. We'll know in 53 minutes.

Anyone know the Browns cap space?

February 28, 2008 10:08 PM  |  ReportAbuse

kraura28   

"Idiocy"

LOL...

anyway, lets see.. we dont franchise the guy, hes a free agent and we get nothing... OR we franchise the guy and get a 7th rounder and an ipod at worse... Glenn you are saying we cant predit it will be a good trade...

Idiocy.

February 28, 2008 10:11 PM  |  ReportAbuse

maascow   

If it's not Williams for Joe Thomas, this was dumb.

February 28, 2008 10:11 PM  |  ReportAbuse

UWBadger05   

Glenn,

Why do you keep posting comments regarding a trade hasn't "publically" materialized?  If we're idiots then just let us be.

February 28, 2008 10:12 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BrewFan20   

The Browns are near the top of the NFL in cap space.

February 28, 2008 10:12 PM  |  ReportAbuse

maascow   

If it's not Williams for Joe Thomas, this was dumb.

February 28, 2008 10:12 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

on the topic of silly. the Raiders sign that dude for $50M unproven. CW Proven.

Conservative TT.

GlenninTampon... THis is all a conspiracy so we can trade him straight up for the FREAK...

February 28, 2008 10:14 PM  |  ReportAbuse

willish   

This is a good trade. Were deep at DT. Jolly, Pickett, Harrell, Muir and I think they offered a tender to Cole. We get the the Browns Second round pick #56. We'll have the 30, 56 and 60 picks. I like those numbers.

February 28, 2008 10:17 PM  |  ReportAbuse

cvill06   

id take josh cribbs...the dude is amazing...maascow u wouldnt take braylon edwards?

February 28, 2008 10:18 PM  |  ReportAbuse

st_even   

If this was for Brady Quinn, I'd vomit all over the keyboard.

February 28, 2008 10:20 PM  |  ReportAbuse

TheManwithNoName   

Good to see people have had it with the board scold, Glenn.

Keep runnin' him through the nutcracker, boys.

February 28, 2008 10:20 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

willish

I like those numbers also, TT's strength is the draft, so we should get some pretty good players with those picks.

February 28, 2008 10:21 PM  |  ReportAbuse

willish   

Samawry, I think TT trades one of the second round picks and moves down for more picks.

February 28, 2008 10:23 PM  |  ReportAbuse

samawry   

willish, I guess it will depend what's left on the board at the time of the picks, TT is very conservative, I wonder if he will ever trade up in a draft?

February 28, 2008 10:26 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BrewFan20   

We will not keep the 30, 56 and 60 picks.

TT will end up trading all of those picks. We'll have something like 20 draft picks. TT is a horribly boring GM for a fan, but he gets the job done ... I hate watching him work, but he gets results.

February 28, 2008 10:27 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

Several folks who have been engaged in previous losing Ned Yost or Michael Redd dust-ups appear to still be smarting!

Go Ned, Redd and please return Brett!

February 28, 2008 10:27 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Big Time   

Correct me if I am wrong but was not CW an undrafted pickup? So a second round for him would be a blessing. Good job TT. That is why he is in the top 5 of talent evaluators

February 28, 2008 10:28 PM  |  ReportAbuse

eawagor   

BT, 6th rd in '04.

February 28, 2008 10:31 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Koition   

It's a good trade if Williams stays at the productivity level he's been at... great at times and disapearing at others. Though, it's not a great trade considering Williams is getting paid in the ranks of a Top 5 or 10 DT. I think the Packers could've gotten another late rounder along with the 2nd rounder.

February 28, 2008 10:33 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

Big TIme. I'd agree but why risk being stuck with CW and $6M+ accounted for this year with the assumption that you may get a 2nd for him?

February 28, 2008 10:33 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Big Time   

Sorry for that thanks for the correction  

February 28, 2008 10:34 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Tampa Eric   

Good trade for us, we need all the bullets we can get for this draft, may be the last before brett walks away. Need to find a playmaker steal a devin hester somewhere find the Nick Barnett of the offense and roll the f0ck over the NFC north.

February 28, 2008 10:34 PM  |  ReportAbuse

NeedanotherLeRoy   

We all need to thank Mike Sherman for this possible 2nd round pick.  He was the one who snagged Williams in the 6th round.

February 28, 2008 10:40 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Stud-T   

So a semi-official 2nd it is.  I'm happy.

February 28, 2008 10:45 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Next Gen. 12   

This is a Great trade. But wouldn't it have been smarter to wait to see what happen with Derek Anderson because if someone signed him Browns would get a 1st and a 3rd right? Then we could have traded Williams for a 1st??

But overall i am happy.!!! =]

February 28, 2008 10:47 PM  |  ReportAbuse

DerekFerReal   

Almost everyone thought we were just going to let Corey Williams go! This is a GREAT trade for us! It would be pick 56 in the draft... not bad at all Teddy boy!

So we can go DB, TE, OL all in the first two rounds! Or TE, DB, OLB! Eitherway you count on two of these players panning out and I'm happy with that, our d-line was stacked with people that are all about equal!

February 28, 2008 10:47 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

Mike Sherman is the most underappreciated Packers official of the Favre Era. Uneven in his general manager performance yet many "hits," several of which are still notables on the team (or have been exchanged for picks or players), and a division-winning machine as a coach. Top 5 in Packer lore.

February 28, 2008 10:52 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

I believe Mike Sherman is coaching some crap college ball isn't he.

Snicker.

February 28, 2008 10:54 PM  |  ReportAbuse

NeedanotherLeRoy   

I don't think I should post anymore blogs - it appears that I am on the same side as GlennInTampon.

February 28, 2008 10:57 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Big Time   

CW was not as productive when he had to be a full time starter. I did appreciate his motor his sack total will be hard to replace, but if it is a second round pick for him I think it is a win for the Pack.  Anybody agree?

February 28, 2008 11:01 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Frozen Tundra   

A 2nd for a guy who was going to be lost for nothing gets the big thumbs up from me!

February 28, 2008 11:01 PM  |  ReportAbuse

DerekFerReal   

I say we trade the 2nd for Marcus Stroud... on ESPN they just said he's on the block! We don't really need a D-Lineman BUT in essence... we would end up swapping Corey Williams for Marcus Stroud! That would be a huge upgrade! However THIS will NEVER happen....

Also heard Jeremy Shockey is on the block too! That's sort of interesting if he can come back from his injury fine.

February 28, 2008 11:05 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Lou Dog   

I haven't read anywhere that the 2nd is official. Anyone? If so this will be a trade to watch to see what amounts in the coming years.

February 28, 2008 11:09 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

Mike Sherman is the most underappreciated Packers official of the Favre Era???!!!!! Excuse me. Shirley you jest.

Glenn...seriously. You're waaay too cranky and veering off into the delusional.

February 28, 2008 11:10 PM  |  ReportAbuse

jpre223   

I agree with an earlier poster who said that maybe now TT has the ammo to move up from the 30th spot.  Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.  But...you can't keep 10 rookies every year...

It's a good move by the Pack.  They dealt from a position of strength and didn't overpay the guy.  A second is definitely right for him.  I couldn't imagine him being worth much more.

February 28, 2008 11:13 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

Personally I like getting Clevelands 2nd. Ammo to move up or trade down. And as much as I liked CW, DT really still is our deepest position of all except WR.

Lots of options and you don't lose him for nothing next year.

February 28, 2008 11:18 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Stud-T   

UPDATE: NFL Network has reported that the Packers will receive the Browns' second round pick in this year's draft in exchange for Williams. That pick would be the 25th of the second round and 56th overall. The Packers also have their own 60th overall selection.

February 28, 2008 11:18 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Tampa Eric   

Mike sherman was a Bum. Stroud is headed tp detroit 4 rogers and  pick. An upgrade for them But still dosnt scare the hell out of me like Adrian P.  

February 28, 2008 11:18 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Wersgorix   

Braylon Edwards isn't going anywhere, least of all getting traded to the Pack for CW.  A 2nd and possibly a lower pick or a pick in '09 would be great value for a 6th round developmental player who was not the starting DT until Jolly got hurt.  CW is good but getting at least a 2 and possibly more is a job well done by TT.

February 28, 2008 11:19 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

How much better the Lions or Vikes would be had they sought Mike Sherman the day he was terminated in Green Bay. Instead, eternal rebuilding.

With the update now that the purported Williams deal netted a 2nd round pick the transaction can be intelligently evaluated. But...even that's contingent on the biggest perennial development of a Packer offseason, will-he-or-won't-he Brett Favre?

If Brett's back, it would be better to have Corey and seek the pinnacle in one (supposedly) last valiant effort.

If #4 retires, it's a wholesale overhaul and the pick becomes a handy building block.

Despite the Williams departure, the brittle Aaron Rodgers does not breed confidence - please Brett 16 more games.

February 28, 2008 11:19 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

Took the words right out of my mouth jpre :)

February 28, 2008 11:19 PM  |  ReportAbuse

gr8daynegb   

Mike Sherman-  solid coach, awful GM

Does the 2003 and 2004 drafts ring a bell?

2003

1st round- Barnett (Only hit)

3rd- Kenny Peterson

5th- James Lee and Hunter Hillenmeyer

6th Brennan Curtin

7th- Chris Johnson, DeAndrew Rubin, Carl Ford, and Steve Josue

2004

1st round- Carroll

2nd round- Joey Thomas and Donnell Washington

3rd round- B.J. Sander(whom we traded up to get)

6th round- Corey Williams (only true hit)

7th round- Scott Wells(I don't give Sherman full credit for him because they cut him and he could have been anyones)

For all the trading up Sherman did to only have 3 players out of all his draft picks was plain bad.

February 28, 2008 11:21 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Yougottabackthepack   

If the Pack got a 2nd for Williams, it is a great move by TT. They weren't gonna sign him to a long term deal anyway...this is a steal!

February 28, 2008 11:25 PM  |  ReportAbuse

gr8daynegb   

"For all the trading up Sherman did to only have 3 players out of all his draft picks was plain bad."

I'm talking about the 2003 & 2004 drafts about where is is bad he only got three legit players out of it.  Just wanna be specific before I get bashed on the 2002 draft where they got Walker and Kampman

February 28, 2008 11:28 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

gr8daynegb great but extremely painful point.

Thanks alot for the brutal memory of the brilliant Carroll, Thomas, Sanders draft.

That was a real dandy wasn't it?

February 28, 2008 11:28 PM  |  ReportAbuse

thank_u_brett   

Jeremy Shockey, come win another Super Bowl!

      This time in Green and Gold!

could you imagine our falcon formation then?

Lee and Shockey tight to the line of scrimmage Driver and Jennings wide and Ryan Grant alone deep, in the  backfield.

That would be scary for any defense!

February 28, 2008 11:30 PM  |  ReportAbuse

gr8daynegb   

Believe me BuckyGreene,  whenever I look back at those two drafts I wanna throw up

February 28, 2008 11:30 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BigTerryD   

I effing hate Ted Thompson.  People burn 1st rounders left and right trying to get a dlineman like williams.  A 2nd rounder??? Un friggin believable.  He has $25 mil! Dont sit on it like last year. I expect some big signings after this bone head move freed up $6 mil.

Man I really hate TT

February 28, 2008 11:33 PM  |  ReportAbuse

thank_u_brett   

So who doesn't think Shockey would be worth our 1st rd pick (#30)?

February 28, 2008 11:34 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Tampa Eric   

Where do you think there needs to be a Whole Sale Overhaul. Name one position that you could grade  a D for the whole group. Punter? If Brett leaves there will be a Vet to Battle Rodgers for the top spot. If Brett stays the Gm's gameplan is  the same if, Brett goes the gameplan is the same. Thats why he's the GM of a NFL team and Shermans is sweating balls in texes recruting steers and queers

February 28, 2008 11:35 PM  |  ReportAbuse

packman04   

Since we are still speculating, why not Williams and Rogers for Quinn and next years #1???...Rogers can't stay healthy, the Browns keep their 2nd rd pick this year and Quinn can learn from Brett for ONE MORE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!

February 28, 2008 11:35 PM  |  ReportAbuse

packman04   

Somebody, Please Help Glenn??....Hand him another Tampon because I think he sprung a leak!!!

I once knew a Glenn in Tampa and if he is the same Glenn, he is beyond an IDIOT!..

He really is a closet Yankee/Giant Fan of all things!

He also Thinks he knows everything and thinks he is a BOWLER!.....He sucks!!!!

If I have the wrong Glenn I will be the first to apologize.

Either way, GlennInTampa is still an idiot!!

February 28, 2008 11:42 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

BigTerryD

Respectfully I disagree. I had serious doubts about TT initially, but the proof is in the performance, and TT has hugely upgraded the overall talent level...and quickly.

I'm way beyond through questioning TT.

February 28, 2008 11:42 PM  |  ReportAbuse

stuntman678   

dammitt TT move atleast alittle bit in free agency..i think we should get lance briggs and kik brady poppinga out thats a good move haha

February 28, 2008 11:46 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

thank_u_brett

Regarding Shockey...dependent on his health. I agree another talented TE would be great. But Shockeys been hurt ALOT lately. Could be Keith Jackson or could be?

Any thoughts on Crumpler from the crowd?

February 28, 2008 11:48 PM  |  ReportAbuse

New Mexico   

Does this mean they expect Jolly to be ready by next year?

February 28, 2008 11:49 PM  |  ReportAbuse

BuckyGreene   

stuntman678 I like the way you think.

In the words of Homer Simpson...MMMM

Lance Briggs

Now theres an idea if they want to really make a statement.

February 28, 2008 11:50 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Oil Can Boyd   

We just got rid of Cletidus Hunt for a second rounder!!!!!! a-hole.

February 28, 2008 11:55 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Portland Packer Backer   

Glenn....Hello.  Sherman was a total knucklehead, both as a sideline decision-maker and as a GM.  Completely overmatched at both most of the time.  Seemed like a decent guy, though.

As for this trade, it turned out very nicely for the Packers, regardless of what happens with Favre.  CW was not a real impact player for the defense in their scheme.  Nice sack totals, but it was because he had a bunch of other very active people on the line with him, like Pickett, Jolly, Cole, Jenkins, Kampman, and KGB.  Getting the 56th pick in the '09 draft for a part-timer who was gonna be gone after this year, and not having to drop $6M this year on him was a real coup for TT.  He is going to parlay that pick into either more picks or a decent player, I am guessing.

Sorry, Glenn, don't mean to be predicting the future.  That's not what this blog is all about, people!!!

February 28, 2008 11:59 PM  |  ReportAbuse

Oil Can Boyd   

We just got rid of Cletidus Hunt for a second rounder!!!!!! a-hole.

February 29, 2008 12:08 AM  |  ReportAbuse

eawagor   

I made the wrong guess on this one, thought Williams would not be tagged and the Pack would let him walk.  TT knew he could make this work and it looks like a good move.  Williams was not worth the high price and would not have been here after the season.  He loved playing in GB though and wanted to stay, he was a good player and a class guy who will be missed, a project player that earned his snaps.  Hope the draft is a good one.  Can't wait for training camp!

February 29, 2008 12:21 AM  |  ReportAbuse

AJQ   

Does anyone have the formula used by most NFL teams that weights draft picks, so that we can see what packaging some or all of our draft picks would allow us to do in moving up in the 1st round (even if it is against TT's modus operandi)?

February 29, 2008 12:44 AM  |  ReportAbuse

PackerBacker in Bear Country   

Hey, TT added 6.7 mil to our cap of cash available and got a second rounder.  Now we got 24 mil and 3 of the top 60 picks, good move and this story still has legs.

February 29, 2008 1:39 AM  |  ReportAbuse

van77d   

Considering how low in the round the Browns pick is, we should have asked for something more (like a fourth rounder next year.)

February 29, 2008 8:18 AM  |  ReportAbuse

NCPACKERMAN   

If anyone still wonders why the Packer just signed TT to a long term contract look at this deal and wonder no more. I am glad that Ted Thompson is on our team.

February 29, 2008 8:47 AM  |  ReportAbuse

TheManwithNoName   

Ah, Glenn, always the pompous ass and hypocrite.

You scold people for speculating about a reported trade, yet you yourself speculate whether the Packers will girding for a title or rebuilding.

After all, we shouldn't comment on anything until it happens.

Anything else is idiocy.

February 29, 2008 9:08 AM  |  ReportAbuse

scrooged   

2nd round pick and provides us with an additional $6M in cap space.  Not Bad at all!

February 29, 2008 9:58 AM  |  ReportAbuse

TerdellMiddleton   

Great job again Ted.  Not having to pay huge bucks to a slightly above-average DT, and getting a 2nd round pick to boot.  Keep bringing in 10 rookies every year.  How fans don't understand the logic of your strategy, I have no idea.  But there's no doubt you're doing the right thing.  Keep it up!

February 29, 2008 11:12 AM  |  ReportAbuse

TerdellMiddleton   

Though I'd still love to see you trade up and get Mendenhall!  Total stud.

February 29, 2008 11:13 AM  |  ReportAbuse

Frozen Tundra   

Try huddlereport.com and click draft tools for a copy of the trade report, AJQ.

Here's the shorthand (if TT does a 180 and trades up for once):

#30 + #60 would get them to approximately #18. Without using up another pick, that's about as high as they can go. (I presume they would try to keep #56 and prefer using #60 in any trade)

#91 + #30 would get them to #24 (or #23 if they threw in a 7th)

#91 + #60 would equal #47 (or #46 if they threw in a 7th) should they wish to go up in round 2.

Smaller moves: If they get a 4th round compensatory (~ #130), there is the possibility of using #124 (probably will be #126 after 2 comp. 3rds are doled out) with #30 to get to #28. Or, #124/126 + #56 to get to #51 (throw in a 7th). Or, #124/126 + #91 to get to #82 if they want to go up in the 3rd ...

Of course almost any of these picks could be used to go in the other direction. But, for me, this year is the time to strike for a few "excellent" players, rather than stockpile picks for more more "good" players.  

February 29, 2008 12:40 PM  |  ReportAbuse

GlennInTampa   

No Name, the profanity and proofreading in your most recent non-substantive post are most disappointing.

Such a surly bloviator, one No Name, since Ned was extended.

February 29, 2008 12:54 PM  |  ReportAbuse

brewhawk   

Greg,

Can you please tell us the Packers new available cap space number, now that Williams has been traded?  Seems like it should be upwards of $25M.  Thanks.

February 29, 2008 11:35 PM  |  ReportAbuse

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