Sinbad on His and Hillary’s “Red Phone Moments” In Bosnia

3/11/08, 1:46 pm EST

A priceless WaPo piece on Clinton’s harrowing USO tour of Bosnia:

[Sinbad] said the “scariest” part of the trip was wondering where he’d eat next. “I think the only ‘red-phone’ moment was: ‘Do we eat here or at the next place.’”

Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. “They said there might be sniper fire,” Clinton said.

Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn’t remember that, either.

“I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or ‘Oh, God, I hope I’m going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.’”

In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, “We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady.”

Say what? As Sinbad put it: “What kind of president would say, ‘Hey, man, I can’t go ’cause I might get shot so I’m going to send my wife…oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.’”

To say nothing of the president’s teenage daughter….

Can you imagine if Hillary had steamrolled to the nomination as planned and this shit were coming out only now.

Talk about dodging bullets.


Comments

DirtyDennis | 3/14/2008, 2:25 pm EST

ComSen,

It’s about making money, look at ‘regular’ TV. It’s all drivel. The only thing that sails is, well, I’m not sure if there’s a word that encompasses controversy, smut, sex, conflict and bizzare. I’d guess there’s been more coverage to young Britney’s travails over the past month than to anything of substance relative to either candidate.

If all you did was write copy all day, I’d guess you, or I’d, weary of reality as quickly as they.

That said, they’re still jerks. No one pointed a gun at them and say, “You’re journalists!!” I expect they should live up to the same standards that our politicians are unable to live up to, whatever they might be.

CSense | 3/14/2008, 1:10 pm EST

Current MSM just doesn’t want to play fair. Look up the older press accounts - visits to 3 army bases (not just the one w/the USO show), meeting w/the First Amored Division, meetings with international relief organizations to discuss issues and funding. Was Sinbad along for all of that? Just b/c you fly on the same plane, doesn’t mean you had the same trip.

DirtyDennis | 3/13/2008, 7:51 am EST

Vet,

I’m at too late a stage in life to ‘lighten up.’ In fact, one might be able to make the case that part of the problems we have today is because too many folks ‘lighten up’ when they should ‘tighten up.’ Let something slide here, let something slide there and pretty soon you realize you’re on the side of that proverbial ’slippery slope.’

People should have been tight-assed, including HRC, when Georgie Porgie and the gang who couldn’t shoot straight wanted to go into Iraq.

Should RS be exempt from accountability? Methinks not and would like to think, given their history of progressive journalism, that they would be a shining example. But then, maybe sales would decline. What then?

The question would seem to be, then, should RS, and by extension, the MSM, lead by example, or follow the rest of us down that slippery slope into the abyss?

Wow, I feel like a kid at Xmas with this blog working like it is. Knock on wood.

OJEvet | 3/12/2008, 11:29 pm EST

DD -

‘Lighten up, Francis.’ This a Rolling Stone we are talking about here. And not even that, a Blog on the RS website. (Quoting WaPo) I would no more demand objectivity here than I would demand a great steak dinner from taco bell.

Apparently you still believe in fairy tales like objective and accountable corporate journalism, hookers with hearts of gold, and easter bunnies. Good luck with that.
But, you are to be congratulated for moving past the stage where you ‘know’ professional wrestling is fake and you suspect politics in the media are a similar racket…

(& No, I don’t believe HRC said it, because I was unable to find a credible quote after a pretty dedicated search.)

Savo Heleta | 3/12/2008, 2:11 pm EST

The war in Bosnia ended in December 1995. After that, there was no fighting or sniper fire in the country, especially not in March 1996.

I know this; I lived through the entire war as a child. I should put this on my resume, it seems it’s a great qualification for important positions.

If the trip was so dangerous, do you think they would send Presidents wife and daughter there?

SAVO HELETA
Author of “Not My Turn to Die:
Memoirs of a Broken Childhood in Bosnia”
savoheleta.livejournal.com

moe | 3/12/2008, 9:47 am EST

Hey, she and Chelsea DID sing Phil Ochs songs for the troops - top that Laura Boosh! m

Delta Wild Man | 3/12/2008, 9:16 am EST

Besides TIM
Your a father.
Let’s say you were LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD..
Would you send your child into any type of danger?

Delta Wild Man | 3/12/2008, 9:14 am EST

Tim
Come on, this is old news,,
I think I brought up the same point about Hildabug and her daughter in December.
Who in their right mind would send their wife and daughter into a danger zone?
I poke as much fun at the Clintons as anyone, and I’ve said some bad things about Bill Clinton, but AIN’T NO WAY BILLY BOY WOULD SEND HIS DAUGHTER INTO A PLACE THAT SHE EVEN REMOTELY HAD A CHANCE OF GETTING KILLED!!
That in itself would start a nuclear war..
(Killing the daughter of a setting president..)
But It damn sure would make a great movie..

Anonymous | 3/12/2008, 7:10 am EST

(DD)

Vet,

This is hardly about HRC unless one chooses it to be. This is about the MSM and TD in particular and how they shade the news. I frankly don’t care but they treat us like morons when they present a one-dimensional portrayal of both candidates. Obama Good. Clinton Bad. Perhaps young Tim thinks the maturity level of the average reader of this site is lower than his and perhaps he’s right; I’m sure they have low-paid researchers to investigate these matters. The fact that no one advertises on these pages would seem to indicate that the results of the research are not reassuring.

Do you honestly think that HRC got up and literally said, “I’m more qualified than Barack because I flew into a war zone?” Or would it be more likely that reporters ODing on Sexism or suffering from penis envy saw a way to give themselves something to laugh about when they collected for drinks that evening? I doubt you would argue that young Tim would most certainly find favor in such lampooning and propagate it as hard news. Did you, for example, actually witness HRC make those statements? I doubt it, so you’re taking the word of some news-starved reporters who’d rather NOT be covering the First Lady and some performers.

I think everyone needs to ratchet up their objectivity-O-meter a few notches.

OJEvet | 3/12/2008, 3:33 am EST

At the end of the day, it doesn’t fkkn matter that Sinbad is an Obama supporter. Clinton citing her trip into a guarded US base as the kind of experience that qualifies her for the presidency is just crap. I spent 8 months there, in country and unprotected, can I be president?
Bottom line, once NATO came to town, the war was over, and there was little danger to be had from the people. Yes, Clinton would have been a big ‘get’ for a terrorist as 1st lady, but she didn’t leave the secret service at home. Her narrative just doesn’t wash. If it was so incredibly dangerous, why was Chelsea along?
She said ‘no one offered me tea’, that just means she didn’t get out among the people. While the ‘crips and bloods’ description is actually an understatement, one on one the Bosnian people are generous and gracious hosts.

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 7:19 pm EST

(DD)

Jesus TD, you are lame. Did you sleep through Journalism 101? In your stilted, shrill hit on HRC, you failed to mention that Sinbad, your protagonist, is, in fact, an Obama supporter. Kinna makes his rebuttal a little one-dimensional, don’tcha think? A minor oversight? Perhaps, but there goes your Pulitzer. The bar isn’t THAT high, but they frown on that kind of ‘reporting.’

The same article from which you cherry-pick your quote also says, “…a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 … quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as “so tense. It was Crips and Bloods.”" But that was then, when neither he, nor you, had any political agenda to propogate.

You should start billing the Obama campaign for PR work. Although they might not think your quality merits much recompense.

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 6:25 pm EST

(Jed Clampett)

Sen Clinton, do you reject and repudiate the support of Gov. Spitzer? What has taken you so long to pronounce yourself in this matter? is prostitution an acceptable crime, is cronyism, sending kids off to die for an obvious lie?

I was wondering what would bring Spitzer down when I was watching him make news for himself with all the high visibility prosecutions. It was obvious he was merely making himself popular for an expected political campaign. Now he shows his dark side. The funny side of this, or ironic depending on your pov, is that he forced the banks to install the software that pointed him out and got him busted… DOE!!! There are speculations from unnamed officials that he has spent as much as $88000!!! damn, that’s alot of professional help. The guy must have been a total charity case in the bedroom to need that much training. :) Feel sorry for his wife, or perhaps she was the deficient one.

While I am saddened to see the democrats take such a strong hit at such a critical time, it gives me joy to see another hypocrite bite the dust. Would be nice to see the AG throw the book at him the same way he did at others, finding the tiniest thing and making it into a mountain. Federal charges of interstate crime would be in order.

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