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Jeremiah Wright, Obama\'s Pastor, Leaves Obama Campaign

Jeremiah Wright, Obama's Pastor, Leaves Obama Campaign

  |   March 14, 2008 10:02 PM


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Politico reported Friday night that Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's controversial former pastor, is no longer with his campaign. Wright's comments about 9/11 and other inflammatory remarks have drawn increasing scrutiny and media coverage in recent days.

The statement from the Obama camp:

Spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

"Rev. Wright is no longer serving on the African American Religious Leadership Committee."

MSNBC adds that it remains unclear whether Wright left voluntarily or was asked to leave.

Obama did not clarify whether Wright volunteered to leave his African American Religious Leadership Committee, a loose group of supporters associated with the campaign, or whether the campaign asked him to leave.

Obama made the rounds on the network news shows Friday night, speaking on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News. Watch his interview on MSNBC with Keith Olbermann.



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Rev. Wright is right. Obama should stand by him.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 03/16/2008

Listen to Rev. Jeremiah Wright"s sermons. Listen beyond the words. Try to hear the message. Is he damming America or is he damming an America that would allow social injustice to occur? Is he damming the nation, or is he damming some of the worst aspects of this nations history? Flips this on its head. He sees this nation as a blessed nation, but he is damming the wrongs of within our society.

He is advocating radical humanism. He wants out nation to value the lost of every life. He was not blaming the 9/11 victims. As a Christian, his prays went out to them and their families. But he, like Ron Paul, and many others want us as a nation to rethink our foreign policy" so that we are in shock and awe with the lost of any body"s life" even the life of our enemies. We must bat an eye for the lost of anybody"s life. All of our lives have equal worth and value.

Since the inception of Christianity, it has been a liberating force, but the message must be spoken in the language of congregation so that it can be heard.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 03/16/2008

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

I'm an independent - and as far as I'm concerned all three of them need to reject and denounce any of the nut jobs who would sully their campaigns - whether it's Rev McWhacko (the white one), Rev McWhacko (the black one), or Geraldine Ferracist.

A good old fashioned political enema never hurt anyone - and let's the rest of us know that our candidate of choice isn't entirely deaf.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 03/15/2008

Whether it's the dirty tricks mentality of the Clinton campaign or the sophomoric behavior of the extreme right, Senator Obama will be ambushed all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. But I firmly believe he will make it there. And for the first time in a very long time, we will have a President who is visionary, brilliant, calm - and who believes that collaboration and coalition are the means to a rejuvenated America of opportunity and global respect. We cannot afford to have an interventionist like McCain or 'politics as usual' represented by Senator Clinton. Both are strong in their own way but neither have the combination of talents that Obama has. And it is just this combination of talent and skills that we so desperately need in our country.

Pastor Wright echoed notions, ideas, and hostilities that have been debated in universities and homes across this country for as long as I can remember. To me, it wasn't what he said but how angry he was when he said it. It is fact that we've been accused of ignoring atrocities. Some say it's even true. And our role in the Middle East is one that we have to address, settle, fix, adjust, etc. That Hillary Clinton doesn't know what it's like to be a black woman is certainly true - and how could she? None of us who aren't black have any idea of what it would be like to suffer this discrimination. Is it possible to be angry enough at your country to damn it. Probably so, if your experiences have been such that you'd have a reason for it. The number of black men in prison? Disgraceful in its obvious discrimination.

But Senator Obama isn't angry and he isn't Pastor Wright. And he didn't say the things that Pastor Wright said. I've seen people get really mad in my life because I come from a big family of passionate ideas and opinions. And I was raised in the 60's when if we hadn't gotten really mad as a country we wouldn't have the freedoms we have today - or the perspective about war. So, leave Wright alone. We live in America and people are allowed to get mad and stand on the pulpit, bully or otherwise, and rant their opinions. And leave Obama alone for he cannot be responsible for what others say or feel. Senator Obama did what he needed to do by denouncing the Pastor's comments. Lastly, Obama is patient and calm in a crisis - how much we need these attributes in the leader of our country.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/15/2008

You have a point about the angry, but we must not forget that there is angry in our nation. But then again, was it angry or emotion--- after all he was preaching, not talking.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 03/16/2008

Too late, bad boy. The skinny is out. Over 20 years with this hate-monger racist. It's over. Only a matter of time until we find out how deep BO is in with Rezko. $250,000 and counting.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 03/15/2008

Really? That is good news. I can't stomach Barak one more minute.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 03/15/2008

LOOK MAN TAKE YOUR PILL AND LEAVE US ALONE

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 03/16/2008

Now that Barack has said he did not approve or accept the comments of Reverend Wright will McCain have to do the same thing with John Hagee?

He seems to be getting a pass.McCain that is.Or is the main steam media in a quandry?
Not being a position where they have to deal with a Black Man up close and personal?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 03/15/2008

obama is indeed clearing the decks of the rezko/wright situations. come debate time, i think he will go after hillary for not releasing her tax returns, her white house papers, her earmarks, and most importantly the donor list of the clinton library. six months after her husband bill pardoned convicted tax evader mark reich, reich's wife 'donated' $500K to the clinton library. hillary's brother also sold pardons for $500.000. don't believe me, still in denial, just do a google search.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 03/15/2008

I think we have heard the Howard Dean Scream of this election. Its over for Obama.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 03/15/2008

I agree that getting this out in the open as early as now is a good thing. I'm thinking that this might actually be a brilliant campaign strategy, if it ever is. It's timing was done at the height of the Ferraro flap and there has the effect of canceling out each other. The timing is 6 weeks before Pennsylvania which means there is plenty of time to address the issue(s). Effectively, at this point all issues have been brought out in the open. No more Jeremiah Wright, no more Rezko, tax papers released, earmarks or pet-project lists released. Everyone can truly see and affirm Barack's honesty and integrity. Barack is freer than ever compared to Hillary who's been secretive about a lot of things. Brilliant! Go Barack!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 03/15/2008

This is why we need to vote for Hillary. Obama and his wife are anti American liars. Hillary cares deeply for our country, and will do the job right. Obama and his cronies will destroy this country.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 03/15/2008

im sorry i cant believe he never heard these statements .....even if he wasnt in the church he jsaid on CNN that he only heard about most of the statements when he started his campaign....i hate to say this but there will be a huge number of reporter out there scrounging and snooping and will find out he is not being truthful....somebody had to tell him about these sermans even if he wasnt there ....i think he's in trouble .....these are unedited dvd's that his church sells,,,,undoctored ...and i heard there are hundreds of audio tapes around...he may be in big trouble

"you can fool some of the people all of the time...you can fool all of the people some of the time but you cant fool all of the people all of the time"
the sad part of this is the MSM didnt want to vett this guy and now we are in a huge mess.....he may be the dem candidate and the gop and 527's will rip him apart

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/15/2008

Hidden Message

Remember when they said Bush in his election speeches had a hidden mesage for teh Evangelical Christians?

Guess what. Obama has a message for all Irev Wright's followers .. CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN

It is not about change for all American or the Blacks and women that white men have made or making, etc.

That is not good enough for Obama's beleivers. They want CHANGE WE CAN BELEIVE IN

Change to improve the Black community more. Change including restitution and compensation for the slaves and their decendents and more.

Change that punishes AMerican for what Irev Wrght call pay back for what USA has done overseas and to the Blacks.

The day is coming!!!!


In Shaha Allah


replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/15/2008

Well, another chance for Slippery Hillary to let Ferraro loose.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 03/15/2008

Anyone think this denouncement isn't the same as his position on NAFTA and getting out of Iraq. He tells the voters one thing and tells the pastor etc.don't really listen to what i'm saying.wink, wink..

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 03/15/2008

im sorry i cant believe he never heard these statements .....even if he wasnt in the church he said that he only heard about most of the statements when he started his campaign....i hate to say this but there will be a huge number of reporter out there scrounging and snooping and will find out he is not being truthful....somebody had to tell him about these sermans even if he wasnt there ....i think he's in trouble .....these are unedited dvd's that his church sells,,,,undoctored ...and i heard there are hundreds of audio tapes around...he may be in big trouble

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/15/2008

In order to move forward, we Americans are going to have to rid ourselves of this addiction to "guilt by association" attacks. If you cannot run for elected office unless no one you are associated with has ever expressed their anger or displeasure at one socio-political institution or another, then we are truly going to eliminate any hope of attracting the best and the brightest into pubic service.
When I got married, I did not investigate whether or not the person who performed the ceremony had ever said anything negative about (fill in the blank).
Barack has spoken in a very mature way about this situation now. I just hope a majority of the rest of America responds to what he said with an equal level of maturity.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 03/15/2008

guilt by association" Is the spin Obama is giving to it. How is it "guilt by association" whe you knowingly put a person in your committee when he hates jews , whites and america and try to sneak it by America. I am tried of behind the scenes from this guy he is not a straight shooter what else dont we know. I dont think he can win the GE he is too high risk now. But let the cards play out and let people continue to vote. Things will start to look different, Him not wearing a flag lapel pin was silly, but now it makes me think. michelle's comments about this country. I mean he said he didnt know wright was saying these things. I say I DONT BELIEVE HIM. A church is a community and people talk about sermons and he has no idea. 20 years worth of sermons. Nope Dont believe him nor will America
I dont want this guy for presidenthttp://youtube.com/watch?v=rbkhzsTwz_g

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 03/15/2008

Problem is, Rev. Wright does not hate Jews, whites, or America. Even on the tape shown on Fixed Noise, about 1:25 in, there is a white blond woman who surges to her feet and applauds. You can see some other white faces in the congregation, too. There are white members of that church. So how do you explain that, unless you just don't care about the facts?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 03/16/2008

Is possible that he heard something, different from you?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 03/16/2008

It's so disheartening for people to label this man this way. Just because he preaches against white supremacy, that doesn't mean he hates white people. Just because he preaches against Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, that doesn't mean he hates Jewish people. Just because he calls America to task for how it treats its citizens, especially the weakest and poorest, that does not mean he hates America. The mainstream media has been effective in shortening your attention spans to the point that a 30 seconds of sound clips makes you believe you have the entire context. PLEASE open your minds to a better understanding.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 03/15/2008

I agree, if the media had been doing their job these stories would have been out long ago. They have been on the web for months. I may not always agree with the government of America, but I would never damn America, and say it's citizens deserved what happened to them on 9/11. I don't want this man as my president.

HIllary 08!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 03/15/2008

Oh bull.
If you associated with Hitler, don't you think eyebrows would be raised?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 03/15/2008

Well lots of countries and people did associate with Hitler and it didn't help the situation. Not that the US, did but we were very slow to enter the war ... and it was years after the slaughter of the Jewish people had begun. As much as Roosevelt tried, Pearl Harbor had to happen before we were jettisoned into it. If we'd gone to Europe earlier we could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So hold on with your Hitler talk.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 03/16/2008

"guilt by association" Is the spin Obama is giving to it. How is it "guilt by association" when you knowingly put a person in your committee when he hates jews , whites and america and try to sneak it by America. He tried to BAMBOOZLE AND HOODWINK us.I am tried of behind the scenes from this guy he is not a straight shooter. I dont think he can win the GE he is too high risk now. But let the cards play out and let people continue to vote

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 03/15/2008

The Black Value System
These Black Ethics must be taught and exampled in homes, churches, nurseries and
schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect the following concepts:
Commitment of God
"The God of our weary years" will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism
and become Black Christian Activist, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all
humankind.
Commitment to the Black Community
The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of
substance to the strength and continuity of the Black of the Black Community.
Commitment to the Black Family
The Black family circle must generate strength, stability, and love despite the uncertainty
of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to
withstand warping by our racist competitive society.

The above is from the churches website, this is what the church teaches, Obama has been a member of the church for twenty years. Do you think that is enough time for "guilt by association"?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 03/15/2008

"we are truly going to eliminate any hope of attracting the best and the brightest into pubic service."

uh, that was done long ago when we allowed "career" politicians -on both the right and the left- to create a ruling class of elected officials.

Seriously, your crush on obama aside, haven't you noticed that the best and the brightest haven't run for office in a long, long time? The people who run for office are often some of the worst and the dimmest, men and women who have nothing to offer but their unbridled zeal for public office.

it an't good and it ain't healthy. things will be different after the revolution. trust me.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 03/15/2008

Steven
I have to say , thats stretching it quite a bit ,to say about when you got married........
This guy Wright is, as Obama has stated, even in his book .....a close friend and Mentor , for 20 yrs. Sorry but that could never convince me he does'nt Know what the man Preaches (teaches) in his Sermons, which seems to be more about Hate than God !!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 03/15/2008

steven 20 years of listening to this pastor and not walking out.Shame on him.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 03/15/2008

except for the inconvenient fact that Obama has known this man for 20 years, considers him his mentor, he is his spiritual leader and until now has held an official position on the Obama campaign.

This man is not just a casual acquaintance.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 03/15/2008

This guy is a member of Obama's campaign. He has been Obama's preacher for 20 years. He just got around to denouncing him? He has been sitting there listening to this guy for twenty years and lets his children listen to this filth. That is not the judgment of the person I want as President of the United States.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 03/15/2008

There is a big difference in guilt by association and GUILT BY 20 YEAR ASSOCIATION

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 03/15/2008

Tit for tat, I guess. Clinton loses a racist supporter and now Obama does.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 03/15/2008

So Obama is on Fox News too?

When you have a spiritual leader, for the last 20 or more years until yesterday .... you can say so much in public about disassociation .. but the spiritual and mental connection with your uncle cannot be terminated by appearing for 10 minutes on Fox or Countdown.

In Shahs Allah.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 03/15/2008

So when Obama made his no war speech ... what was the reason behind it?

Did he not want to attqack Iraq because the radical muslims according to Irev wright doing teh right thing and were helping Blacks avenge their abuses by white men?

So what will Obama do as a balck president to counter all the abuses by teh white men?

Will he apologise to all black people, pay them resitution and compensation for the abuses?

Is he goign to form aliiances with those who help revenge for the black men?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 03/15/2008

This story is just a ploy from the republicans to make us turn on Obama and elect Hillary so that they can whip the crap out of her in the primary. All they're doing is turning the democratic party upside down,and we're letting them. Right about now Hannity is having a good laugh at our expense. We need to stick to the issues ,quit bickering among ourselves and pick a damn candidate already! The republicans know that their chances of winning are very slim,so they have to try to get the weakest candidate to win the nominatin ,and that's Hillary. They have so much dirtt on Hillary , I bet they're salivating at the mere thought of her winning the nomination.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 03/15/2008

Did the right wing loons make Obama go to this church for 20 years, did they make him title his book after a sermon this hate monger gave. Did they make him put this man on his campaign. Give me a break, Obama embraces this man and is not fit to be president.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 03/16/2008

Such a non issue issue.
If I have to sit through another one of Wolf Biltzer's attempted covert blitzes of Senator Obama, I'll scream. Thank da Lord they have Jack Cafferty and a couple others on CNN that are at least covering any bias they may have. My point is this. I've just watched another segment of CNN Campaign Trail, where most of the piece was dedicated to shedding more light on something questionable that has been brought up concerning Senator Obama, i.e., Rezko, Wright. None of these stories have legs I might add. Anyway, I just sent this email to The Cafferty File website on CNN, regarding the ugly tone of the campaign at this point.It's becoming increasingly clear that Hillary doesn't do math. Hillary does wrath. It's amazing to me is how most major news outlets are giving Senator Clinton a pass on major issues, while they are blasting Senator Obama on each and every thing they can. It makes it seem as if Obama is sneaky while Clinton is the Virgin Mary. In the meantime, the reality is simply that Obama speaks to everything that has been raised regarding his actions, while HIllary hides behind the infamous Clinton veil of secrecy. For instance, so much light has been shed on Rezko's case, while the Clinton's case in Cali involving Bill, Peter Paul, AND Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendall, slides under the wire. The case of Norman Hsu goes on quietly as well. Obama releases ALL of his earmarks, and his lambasted and questioned over an earmark for his wife's hospital, which was turned down btw, while Hillary simply refuses to release all her earmarks except the ones that passed. Again making her look like she's always a good girl. And good Lord why is the MSM pretending that there is nothing frighteningly wrong in the Clintons not releasing their tax returns? Haven't we seen this movie before?
Time to turn up the real heat: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Truth_Hurts/

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 AM on 03/15/2008

Can someone tell me where or what was Whites part in the campaign? I keep hearing people say it but I havent heard anyone in the Obama camp say it...seems like media hype...from what i knew, he was at church doing his thing there...not in obamas campaign

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 03/15/2008

"MSNBC adds that it remains unclear whether Wright left voluntarily or was asked to leave.

Obama did not clarify whether Wright volunteered to leave his African American Religious Leadership Committee, a loose group of supporters associated with the campaign, or whether the campaign asked him to leave."

If you haven't watched the video, do. Obama was clearly asked the question and just brushed over it without giving an answer. It doesn't matter how he left the campaign, but Obama also said that Wright was not connected to his campaign in any official capacity. Audacity is a word that comes to mind frequently now. The honesty we can expect from our Change agent appears pretty much status quo.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 03/15/2008

The media is afraid to ask Barack any tough questions because they fear they will be considered racist. Barack didn't answer the question and I believe he is lying. He doesn't support the USA and all the terrorists want him elected. He wants to dismantle the best health care system in the world to give free medical care to everyone. Right now the poor people get free medical care. How many illegals get their babies delivered for free. I had 5 children and had yo pay for all five. I pay for my medical care BUT don't want the option of free medical care because I'm not stupid and suspect other taxes will go up to pay for this FREE medical care! The people that really will get f$cked are the dumb@ss poor people who think they will get something for poor!
I remember back in the 80's when you could deduct credit interest on your taxes. Well the politicians decided that this was a rich man's loophole. They removed it and f*cked the middle class.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 03/15/2008

I, for one, am in awe. That vile sermon was given to the congregation on Christmas Day last year. According to Obama, his family was not in attendance at the service on that holiest Christian holiday, and no one in his parish mentioned to him that he was the topic of the Christmas sermon. He just learned about this video because he was in the Senate all day yesterday. Besides, the affiliation Rev W had with the Obama campaign was not in "an official capacity". And, what was reported today in the Chicago Tribune about his association with Rezko is no different than anything that he had already disclosed to the public. Politics, as usual. No hope for change here.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 03/15/2008

We are in at least two wars, the national economy is in a death spiral, we are disappearing and torturing people, and our standing in the world has probably never been lower. And we're spending time worrying about what somebody's minister says? We've got BIG problems, folks. Let's grow up and show some sense of perspective, before it's too late.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 03/15/2008

I think it is a big problem when the man running for president spiritual adviser and close personal friend, a member of his campaign hates white people. Sorry, that is a problem! We have enough to worry about with out electing someone who condones hating America.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 03/15/2008

The United Methodist Church (George Bush and Hillary Clinton's church) opposes handgun ownership. The church supports gays in the military and abortion rights. Did the NRA withhold its support of Bush because he was a Methodist? Or the pro-lifers?

You want some breathtaking religious video footage: tape the sermons of almost any Southern Baptist minster (Bill Clinton's, Jimmy Carter's and the ultra-Religious Right's religion). On any given Sunday from almost any given church, you can hear diatribes against Jews and Catholics, certainly Muslims, gays, and until just the past few years....people dancing.
Should Bill Clinton reject and denounce a Southern Baptist minister who says that the Jewish victims of the Holocaust went to hell? Because you'll have a hard time finding one who doesn't think that. (According to ReligiousTolerace.org, "A former SBC president, The Rev. Bailey Smith, said, at the 1987 Southern Baptist Convention, words to the effect that 'God does not hear the prayer of a Jew.' He was given a standing ovation. In 1994, during a talk before 15,000 people at a Religious Roundtable meeting in Dallas TX, he said: 'With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew.'" ) Does anyone think for a moment that Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter supports anti-Semitism just because the Southern Baptist Convention (the governing body of the church) sees Jews as heathens?

We are not our ministers. I don't know anyone who agrees word-for-word with everything their ministers say, although the Southern Baptists probably come the closest. But if you know anything about the United Church of Christ (Obama's church), you know that it is a very open, inclusive and accepting denomination, which is why I left the Southern Baptist church to become a Congregationalist.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 03/16/2008

Amen Mattie! We don't need this crap..

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 03/15/2008

Because what his minister says reflects on him. He has been going to this church every sunday for 20 years. Get a clue. I mean if he had been going to Nazi rallies every sunday for 20 years would you make the connection then?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/15/2008

That's a good idea to the extent that it applies accoss the board. Geraldine Ferraro anyone? And yes, we should throw in John Hagee and Samantha Power into this discussion.

The question ought to be who the best candiate for the Dems is and who would be best president, not some manipulative indignation at what some half-witted associate of a candidate has to say. Just be sure to apply this reasonng not only when it serves Obama.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 03/15/2008

I couldn't agree more ... we are in the "urgency of now." When will we come to terms with the stark reality of what's going on? Do we need to experience another Great Depression before we realize that sh-- is as bad as our guts are telling us?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 03/15/2008

Good point.
But how about we apply this reasoning acros the board. This applies to Geraldine Feraro as well. And John agee. And thrw in Samantha Power for good measure.

It'd be a fine day here when we center on who would b the bes candiate for the Dems ad the best president for America instead of hoping our candidate cold win if we only got offended stronenough frm their associates.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 03/15/2008

strong post -- agreed.
BUSH-CLINTON-CLINTON-BUSH-BUSH-?-?
I'm not sure which candidate will fill in those question marks, but I do know that choosing a Clinton or a McCain would make the chain look awfully depressing.
It would be interesting to see a reporter and historian team up to do an educational piece in the context of past candidates, their promises, and how they compare to the the current candidates that covers:
* the last time the average American could live comfortably and support a family on one salary* the last time a college-educated student did not graduate from college eye-ball deep in debt* empirical/quantitative evidence of how many democracies have been established by invasion and conquest* Our China connection and how much muscular diplomacy has been used to gain concessions on the oppressed Tibetan people (btw, we did not seem to have any compunction about "negotiating" or talking with this oppressive regime yet the Media and other candidates are terrifically excited to criticize Obama for speaking yet coming from a position of seeking concessions/movement on intractable issues)* The contamination of our food/water supply* The overreaching and profit-minded pharmaceutical industry and the number of people that die every year because of faulty/toxic/knowingly dangerous drugs ...
But, that would be too much of a story, so instead of picking an item that means something to the average American placed in the context of history, priory candidacies, and future plans ...
we pick this, and Geraldine Ferraro, and Jeremiah Wright ... Buddhist Monks were gunned down in China today .. what do the candidates think about that, media/MSM/bloggers? What do their histories suggest about how they might handle China?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 03/15/2008
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