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Huckabee Defends Obama … and the Rev. Wright

March 19, 2008 8:53 PM

After joking that he's leasing a hot dog stand in Manhattan, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee on MSNBC's Morning Joe early this morning defended Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., on the Rev. Wright front.

And, in fact, he defended Rev. Wright, too.

You can watch it HERE.

MIKE HUCKABEE: There are two different stories -- one is Obama’s reaction, the other one is the Rev. Wright’s speech itself. And I think that, you know, Obama has handled this about as well as anybody could. And I agree, it’s a very historic speech. I think that it was an important one and one that he had to deliver, and he couldn’t wait. The sooner he made it, maybe the quicker that this becomes less of the issue. Otherwise, it was the only thing that was the issue in his entire campaign. And I thought he handled it very, very well.

And he made the point, and I think it's a valid one, that you can't hold the candidate responsible for everything that people around him may say or do. You just can't -- whether it's me, whether it's Obama, anybody else. But he did distance himself from the very vitriolic statements.

Now, the second story. It's interesting to me that there are some people on the left that are having to be very uncomfortable with what Louis Wright said, when they all were all over a Jerry Falwell or anyone on the right who said things that they found very awkward and uncomfortable years ago. Many times those were statements lifted out of the context of a larger sermon.

Sermons, after all, are rarely written word-for-word by pastors like Rev. Wright, who are delivering them extemporaneously, and caught up in the emotion of the moment. There are things that sometimes get said, that if you put them on paper and looked at them in print, you'd say, "Well, I didn't mean to say it quite like that."

MSNBC HOST JOE SCARBOROUGH: But, but you never came close to saying five days after September 11 that America deserved what it got -- or that the American government invented AIDS...

HUCKABEE: Not defending his statements.

SCARBOROUGH: Oh, I know you're not. I know you're not. I'm just wondering though: For a lot of people ... would you not guess that there are a lot of independent voters in Arkansas that vote for Democrats sometimes, and vote for Republicans sometimes, that are sitting here wondering how Barack Obama's spiritual mentor would call the United States the US-KKK?

HUCKABEE: I mean, those were outrageous statements, and nobody can defend the content of them.

SCARBOROUGH: But what's the impact on voters in Arkansas? Swing voters.

HUCKABEE: I don't think we know. If this were October, I think it would have a dramatic impact. But it's not October. It's March. And I don't believe that by the time we get to October this is going to be the defining issue of the campaign and the reason that people vote.

And one other thing I think we've got to remember: As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say, "That's a terrible statement," I grew up in a very segregated South, and I think that you have to cut some slack. And I'm going to be probably the only conservative in America who's going to say something like this, but I'm just telling you: We've got to cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told, "You have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can't sit out there with everyone else. There's a separate waiting room in the doctor's office. Here's where you sit on the bus." And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would too. I probably would too. In fact, I may have had a more, more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: It's the Atticus Finch line about walking a mile in somebody else's shoes. I remember when Ronald Reagan got shot in 1981. There were some black students in my school that started applauding and said they hoped that he died. And you just sat there and of course you were angry at first, and then you walked out and started scratching your head, going, "Boy, there is some deep resentment there."

- jpt

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Silly! I am so afraid for this country right now! I was an avowed Hilary Clinton supporter! I was. But her will to win at any cost is scary. Reading about her secrets scare me! She is being sued for hiding campaign donations. No news! Why? A man that she called a "Jew Bastard" passed a lie detector test. I gave the Clinton's credit for NAFTA, and Bill merely signed the bill. Hilary won't release her tax returns? Why? I am afraid of her! Very afraid. She tells us that she and J. McCain are ready to be president, excluding the only other democratic rival? Simply dirty and highly unethical! I was voting for Hilary because I really wanted Bill! Now I want no part of her or him! Google people! The truth is out there. Let's get back to real issues. O'Bama is no racist. He is also no African American. He is not a descendant of Slaves! He is Both White and Black! He more than likely looks at our mutual anger as Bizzare! A mixture of both, he realizes that his existance proves that skin color is only melanin and that he feels no less human for the combination. He is the middle, hoping to bring the two together. Those who are White and see only his Blackness are blind. Those who are Black and see only his Blackness are blind. Those Black and White who do not see his wisdom are Blind. Wake up America and see us. We need to take back control of our country. Go back to we the people. What better person, than a brilliant man who is a combination of us all! For America's sake! Turn the page!

Posted by: shaaronie | Mar 22, 2008 9:43:54 AM

I like Huckabee, I am an Obama supporter, I think Huckabee and Obama both listened to the words of Jesus more closely than a lot of the people criticizing them. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Posted by: ames | Mar 22, 2008 3:33:59 AM

For those of you who can't seem to put the sound bites of Rev. Wrights sermon into perspective, think about this, A more complete version of Wright's 9/11 remarks have surfaced. I found a copy on digg. It seems the controversial remarks, including the now infamous 'The chickens have come home to roost' were quoted from former Ambassador to Iraq Edward Peck, as Wright warns against the payback mentality of Psalm 137. Hillary's camp put this out there to be used against Obama and hurt his chances of becoming president, but look what God can do. He turned it all around for good. As a result, we've heard this wonderful and inspiring speech from Obama that has led us to REAl conversations about race that can only help our nation. It has also led governor Richardson to endorse Obama. He said he was moved by the speech to do so. AS an avid church goer, I can tell you that the words of Wright are not the worst thing you will hear from a pastor. I know a pastor who told his own congregation that he would pray and ask God not to bless them. He was angry because many of them had not contributed to a fundraiser benefiting him and he did not care that these particular people could not afford it.

Posted by: keepin it real | Mar 21, 2008 5:13:10 PM

For those of you who can't seem to put the sound bites of Rev. Wrights sermon into perspective, think about this, A more complete version of Wright's 9/11 remarks have surfaced. I found a copy on digg. It seems the controversial remarks, including the now infamous 'The chickens have come home to roost' were quoted from former Ambassador to Iraq Edward Peck, as Wright warns against the payback mentality of Psalm 137. Hillary's camp put this out there to be used against Obama and hurt his chances of becoming president, but look what God can do. He turned it all around for good. As a result, we've heard this wonderful and inspiring speech from Obama that has led us to REAl conversations about race that can only help our nation. It has also led governor Richardson to endorse Obama. He said he was moved by the speech to do so. AS an avid church goer, I can tell you that the words of Wright are not the worst thing you will hear from a pastor. I know a pastor who told his own congregation that he would pray and ask God not to bless them. He was angry because many of them had not contributed to a fundraiser benefiting him and he did not care that these particular people could not afford it.

Posted by: keepin it real | Mar 21, 2008 5:13:00 PM

I'm so sick of Barack Obama, his finger-pointing and screaming racism and the like. I don't care if Obama is black, white, yellow or purple-green, I think he'd be a very ineffective president and all these glorious promises he's making to get elected will fall to dust if he is elected; just like all the rest of them.

Posted by: Sid | Mar 21, 2008 3:17:55 PM

The pastor thing is just the tip of the racist iceberg that is obama, just wait until the next big story is what he said today about "typical white people comments" that are racist...sorry obama but not everyone is as racist

Posted by: chris | Mar 21, 2008 2:48:13 PM

This entire controversy surrounding Reverend Wright only makes me like Senator Obama even more. Certainly, some of the Reverend's words are despicable, but how many of us haven't said awful things we later regret, and how many of us haven't heard loved ones do the same and loved them anyway?

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | Mar 21, 2008 2:00:54 PM

I disagree with Huck on many issues, and don’t think he’d make a good Prez but I like him, and he seems like a nice guy, who’s likable and liberal on governance, if Right-Wing on religion.

Something like this only reaffirms why I like him.

Posted by: GMH | Mar 21, 2008 11:51:00 AM

A more complete version of Wright's 9/11 remarks have surfaced. I found a copy on digg. It seems the controversial remarks, including the now infamous 'The chickens have come home to roost' were quoted from former Ambassador to Iraq Edward Peck, as Wright warns against the payback mentality of Psalm 137. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is furtively calling superdelegates using these remarks as proof that Obama is unelectable.
I'm not a churchgoer, and as a stuffy old white guy, I'm a little self-conscious about 'testifying', but after listening to these remarks in full, I can say I'm proud to have Jeremiah Wright among us.
In the coming months, hundreds of millions of dollars will be spent through 527's in an attempt to manipulate public opinion like we've seen here in order to protect the economic interests of the people who pay for them. Judging from some of the remarks on this blog, that will be money well spent.
If you want some controversy, how about this? "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." -Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: Elmhurst,IL | Mar 21, 2008 10:07:03 AM

Glad you all do listen to Rush. He won't explode-he'll simply say that Huckabee is trying for the vp nomination for the dems. I'm REpublican - will not vote for a DEmocrat, or an American hater. I want somebody with experience, somebody levelheaded, someone who cares about our country, not their political career. Support your troops, vote Republican!

Posted by: Aaron | Mar 21, 2008 7:19:12 AM

Look, I'm white but I believe that Rev. Wright is right on. Everyone knows that we white people started racism and some whites dont want to admit that because you think that once you do you must be accountable. America will have to formally apologize for slavery one day and jim crow too. It may as well be sooner than later.I don't just say that because my baby daddy is black. I just agree with Obama and Huckabee too! Obama has my vote but I agree with Linda too! I would love to see Obama and Huckabee on a ticket together. I think this could bring the races and the parties together! I hate to think of the consequences if we don't!
Love to all!

Posted by: white but right | Mar 21, 2008 3:47:01 AM

I'm a democrat and for Obama but I like Mike Huckabee too. I had hoped that he would win the nomination on the Republican side. Since he didn't, I would love it if Obama would choose Huckabee for his for his running mate.I would not vote for Hillary Clinton under any circumstances. Obama did say he wanted an administration inclusive of all parties and I agree. I think government works best when its not dominated by one party, but has a balance.

Posted by: linda | Mar 21, 2008 3:19:14 AM

When Obama takes office I know most Republicans will not be upset. Obama's an intelligent, once in a life time leader -he will listen to all parties.

Posted by: Ken | Mar 21, 2008 1:54:20 AM

Some people would not accept a defense of Obama from Christ himself. I swear, if had to turn my back on anyone who ever uttered a racist remark or stereotype...I dont know where I could go. Those folks who have decided that they cannot accept his explaination of where he finds himself in the ongoing stalemate of race relations in this country needed an excuse to voice their innability to accept him in the first place.
How difficult and confusing it must be to grow up and live between two cultures that both have elements of hate within them towards the other. But at the same time, there is no one with better credentials for understanding the plight of both and providing both with an understanding that no one else could. I have immense respect for the principled man that Barack Obama is and I hope and pray that the small minds of America do not destroy his and America's future.

Posted by: Kevin | Mar 21, 2008 12:04:35 AM

I never realized how many people suffered from having a god complex. It's not right to judge. I guess no one here ever uttered a stereotype in their life or have been the victim of discrimination. People's experiences form their thoughts and actions and you can't be angry with someone for who they are or what they believe. We all live in glass houses!!!!!

Posted by: ceci | Mar 20, 2008 11:44:10 PM

Huckabee never once defended Wright's comments or Obama's actions in sitting in the pews for 20 yrs. hearing this preaching. He did show honest compassion for the uncomfortable situation and past discrimination, but he DID NOT defend the comments! Huckabee is truly a compassionate conservative and Republicans have missed the opportunity of a lifetime by not choosing him as the nominee!!!

Posted by: hsmith | Mar 20, 2008 11:27:46 PM

I'm a democrat and for Obama but I like Mike Huckabee too. I had hoped that he would win the nomination on the Republican side. Since he didn't, I would love it if Obama would choose Huckabee for his for his running mate.I would not vote for Hillary Clinton under any circumstances. Obama did say he wanted an administration inclusive of all parties and I agree. I think government works best when its not dominated by one party, but has a balance.

Posted by: linda | Mar 20, 2008 11:18:19 PM

"I attended that church for 20 years, and I did not inhale"


Just how dumb does Obama think we are? Why did Obama give $22,000 to a church that preaches a message like what Wright preaches? Why did Obama have Wright come and dedicate his new mansion? Why did Obama have a private prayer session with Wright right before announcining his candidacy? And if Obama never heard these sermons, then why did Obama have peripheral quotes from one of the race baiting sermons in his latest book? Quotes that he says he heard first hand?

The gullibility of some people is amazing.

Obama is either dishonest, lacks judgment or both. Either way he is not fit to become President.

Posted by: KSM | Mar 20, 2008 10:35:43 PM

The Super Dream Ticket: Obama/Huckabee-2008

Posted by: Mark, from Mpls. | Mar 20, 2008 10:20:59 PM

Mike Huckabee has a way of raising the dialogue, of creating hope, and kindness, and rational discussion.

I could see his influence in a lot of these posts. Many of you are thoughtful, honest, and reacting in an open minded way. The hateful, slanderous, political mudslinging responses are a total turn off, and unfortunately, it is this kind of thinking that keeps racism and division alive in our country.

Many Americans during the Civil War were aware of God's judgment on us for slavery, and they spoke openly about it. Abraham Lincoln did. Maybe it could still be true. Maybe killing babies (abortion), and oppressing black people, and spewing pornography all over the world, do have the effect of removing God's blessing from our homeland. Maybe Jerry Falwell and Rev. Wright have a common understanding. I was intrigued by the similarity of their takes on 9/11. Either way, I pray that God will bless America, that she will find her way again.
Personally, I find Mike Huckabee a blessing, and I am hoping he stays in politics, and gets to the White House.


Posted by: ML | Mar 20, 2008 10:17:28 PM

Ok, so now Obama needs someone from the Republican Party to defend him? And an ex-pastor at that? This fiasco just gets worse and worse. Obama's 20 year assocation with a pastor who advocates blatant sexism and racism is disgraceful. Anyone who defends Obama or Wright on this matter advocates sexism and racism and shame on you for that!

Barack Obama has systematically tried to stimulate and tap into "white guilt" and "black anger" to elevate his flawed and unethical presidential candidacy. How dare anyone suggest this man is a unifier? His politics are hostile to minority groups and he has done NOTHING (beyond pandering to score votes) to TRULY advance the causes of women, children, African-Americans, Latinos, American-Indians or gay/lesbian people.

Barack Obama should do what is honorable - if he understands the concept - and drop out of this presidential race ASAP. Then Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party can get on with taking on the GOP and ensuring Democrats re-take political power in November. Obama's ongoing presence in this presidential nomination race is desctructive to the Democratic party and will do nothing but cause further division amongst the party and its supporters.

Obama, please stand down, now.

Posted by: Muzza | Mar 20, 2008 8:11:54 PM

I challenge all who haven't listened to the context of Dr. Wright's statement to hold out judgment until you have heard the statement in their entirety. If you don't you're no better than the standard you're holding Senator Obama to. Listen for yourself and draw your own conclusions. Think for yourself don't take the media as honest and balanced.

Posted by: Ms. Irvin | Mar 20, 2008 8:09:33 PM

Read this Jack Tapper:

MSNBC HOST JOE SCARBOROUGH: But, but you never came close to saying five days after September 11 that America deserved what it got -- or that the American government invented AIDS...
HUCKABEE: Not defending his statements.
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, I know you're not. I know you're not. I'm just wondering though: For a lot of people ... would you not guess that there are a lot of independent voters in Arkansas that vote for Democrats sometimes, and vote for Republicans sometimes, that are sitting here wondering how Barack Obama's spiritual mentor would call the United States the US-KKK?
HUCKABEE: I mean, those were outrageous statements, and nobody can defend the content of them.

And don't title your article saying that Huckabee defends what Wright said. That's libel.

Posted by: James | Mar 20, 2008 8:00:08 PM

Mike. These guys, Scarborough, Tucker - they're not your people. Joe could barely contain himself this morning announcing the new poll results with "The chickens are coming home to roost". He's enjoying himself immensely taking Obama down.
This whole Republican/Evangelical alliance came about because the Republicans were willing to pay lip service to the abortion issue. But how many have died just since you've started reading this? That should be a clue that this problem cannot be attacked directly. And it is not going to be solved with the anti-family economic policies of the Republicans. Right now we're faced with a choice between an honorable man - a hero, who doesn't know a whole lot about economics and is likely to be manipulated by anti-family corporate interests. On the other side, we have a couple who introduced a new level of ugliness into American politics in 1992 that ultimately spawned Newt Gingrich and eight tragic years of George Bush. Mike, your country needs you. Let the kids run the hot dog stand for a while and get out there.

Posted by: Elmhurst, IL | Mar 20, 2008 7:55:54 PM

Show me a time when America has EVER nationally repented, apologized, or made recompense for the spiritual, economical, pyschological, or emotional genocide on African Americans? when?! I mean c'mon it's just been since 1964 since the Civil Rights Act! Only 44 years! Man, I'm all for dropping it, but you don't get over 400+ years of oppression in 40 years...geez! Why don't people get it? This is not a soapbox or get-over tactic that African-Americans use, it's REAL. This is what happened and we're dealing with it the best way we can and shoving it up under the rug and telling us to get over it is like tearing the scab off the wound and pouring salt all over it.

This misacknowledgment or telling us to get over after 40 years is becoming like Germany trying to hide the fact that the holocaust happened. It's such an insult. Rev. Wright was wrong for what he said. Dead wrong. But he's also right. In other words, don't listen to what he said, hear the pain...America never really has.

Posted by: Dan | Mar 20, 2008 7:54:12 PM

The bottom line is not whether we are responsible for what someone else says, We can never be entirely responsible for peoples actions as in the case of reverend Wright. I think it's more of an issue of Obaba's own addmission that he has actually sat in and heard some of those sermons over the 20yrs and has supported his ministry finacially throughout the 20 years! If this doesn't support someones views, I don't know what does! It's hard to imagine that someone you call your spiritual advisor for 20yrs is not going to make an impression on you and impose some of his his views on you! The bible says bad company corrupt good character!There is just to much dishonesty in the part of Obama! First he said he was not there when Wright gave a particular speech one year ago, until a magazine reported he was indeed there, so he had to admitt he was actually there and has listened to many hate messages throughout the 20yrs! He actually lied first! Oprah was wise enough to distance herself from Wright, and received a lot of slack for it too, from the church and Rev Wright. Obama supports reverend Wrights views because if he didn't, he would have been man enought to say something to him a year ago, or found another church in Chicago to attend, and I'm sure there are many good churches in Chicago to choose from! We also do know his wife had been influenced by Wright, becuase only until now has she been proud to be an American! Obama really had to reach down, with his advisors, and come up with a really good speech! That's what he does well! TALK! Charm! Motivate! He should have been more sincere and looked right into the televisoin instead of the teleprompters though, becuase he could have been way more believable! Many said, "He spoke of race elequently like no one ever has!" It's becuase he had no choice but too, the presidency was on the line! I'm also a pastor in Phoenix, AZ and I as well as other African American pastors from Mega churches across would never think of saying something so outrageous, or never think about using profanity to get my point across. We would not blame if people chose to leave and attend another church after that! I would have not be suprised! Rather appologetic~ Foul language completely goes against everyhting the Bible teaches us about self control! Rev Wright is teaching his congregation to speak your mind and if need be use profanity! The bible strictly teaches against segregation and makes it a point that Israel is the apple of God's eye! It seems like Rev Wright is impossing many views that don't line up with the bible, and maybe just maybe Wright has been influenced by his own hate! Associating with Louis Farrakan gives some insight into that! The bible says pray for the peace of Jerusalem! Not hate Israel and its supporters, the USA! God gave pstors and leaders to eddify the body of Christ and not tear it down! We as the leaders and teachers our held more accountable to spiritual lead the entire church and is held to a much higher standard,this is also in the bible!The book of St.Timothy explains the qualifications for being a pastor. Finally, many African American pastors with a majority of black congregations do not, will not, ever teach such hate! TD Jakes, Fredrick Price, Clefelo Dollar, Clarrence McClendden, Reverend Eddie Long, these guys we see on Christain TV are tough even with their congregations at times, and deal with cultural issues, but the point of using profanity or accusing the USA or Israel for wars in the world! Also they don't ever encourage their people to expect a hand out but rather trust God and tithe for a real overflow in your life!

Posted by: Daniel | Mar 20, 2008 7:31:21 PM

It was a pleasure reading this blog. Maybe it was because Mr. Huckabee was being interviewed. But almost all comments were respectful, no matter who the commenter was supporting or what point was being made. I am an Obama supporter, but Mr. Huckabee too has great class and humanity and spirituality ( although I have to admit I believe in Darwin). Thank you for this thread.

Posted by: suedcb | Mar 20, 2008 7:18:16 PM

I did not hear Rev. Wrights speech or comments on The US gov.'s "invention" of AIDS. However, I am familiar with the conspiracy theory. I can see why this concept is far fetched to most Americans; but there are well documented cases and experiments conducted by The U.S. government in which smallpox, gonorrhea, and syphilis were administered to Native and Black Americans who were allowed to die or become severely ill even though a cure existed. These are things that have been documented and can be researched (The Tuskegee Experiment, Smallpox epidemic, fact based film 'Mrs. Evers Boys'). Once again, though I have not seen or heard the actual footage, Wrights statement do hold some historical value that needs to be taken into consideration.

Posted by: kalise | Mar 20, 2008 7:09:06 PM

I'm a big Obama supporter, but I always liked Huckabee, and so do many of my Obama supporting friends. He has a good sense of humor and can really make us laugh. My biggest issue with him is that I disagree with many of his views, particularly on gays. I'm glad he defended Jeremiah Wright and it makes my opinion of Huckabee higher.

Although I definitely think Rev. Wright's statements were very wrong and inappropriate to be spoken from the pulpit, the more reports that seem to be surfacing reveal that he really is the man that Obama describes him to be, that these inflammatory statements were not the gist of what he stood for, and the TUCC is really a great church. I also understand that the firey sermons, etc. are things are often heard in African American churches, so it's not for me to judge.

I sure wish some of these people posting that "Obama spend 20 years listening to a racist" would open their minds and dig a little deeper. By not doing so, they confirm their shallowness.

Posted by: JGM | Mar 20, 2008 7:04:40 PM

Huckabee lost the primary and now he needs to ride off into the sunset . . . never to be heard from again.

Posted by: rplat | Mar 20, 2008 6:53:32 PM

I agree I think Mike Huckabee is a wonderful, honorable, god fearing man, and I was really pulling for him to be the Repubulican candiate.

To bad John McCain beat him. If I was a republican he would have truly got my vote,support,and money.

Posted by: Obama Supporter | Mar 20, 2008 6:49:28 PM

There were thousands who worked like crazy all across this nation to get the word out about Mike Huckabee. He is a man of genuine integrity and character and decency, as evidenced once again by his graciousness in this interview. It's so sad that the media wouldn't give him the time of day. They were too busy following Obama around like a bunch of dogs in heat.

Posted by: Jax Mom | Mar 20, 2008 6:17:59 PM

Lord Jesus. I knew there was a reason I liked Mike Huckabee. He actually makes sense and tells it like it is.

I hate that these good white Christians are probably going to hate him and threaten to kill him and his family.

You know they are the same people who sent death threats to the Dixie Chicks.
for saying they were ashamed of Bush.
(I wonder how many white people agree with Natalie now)

That's okay Mike you can always come over to the democratic party..

Posted by: Black and Proud | Mar 20, 2008 5:58:08 PM

Thank you Liz,

You have helped me feel a little less depressed. As Obama indicated, the only way we are going to move forward is if we develop some compassion and understanding for the other guy's experiences. It's also sad to see gloating Hillary supporters. I'm very disappointed in you. Does Hillary want to win at any cost? Even on the back of racism?
Do you really want your slogan to be Racism, Fear, and Ignorance wins again!
Go Hillary!!!?

Posted by: laurenpointmort | Mar 20, 2008 5:40:57 PM

Barack Obama has started a conversation about race right here on this website. As painful as it is, we are moving toward progress. We all need to be more open minded on these issues though or we as a nation will remain stagnant or the anger in 'Reverand Wrights' of both races will never go away and we will have no progress.

Posted by: Mina | Mar 20, 2008 5:20:54 PM

IMO, Huck had reasons of his own for coming to the defense of Barack and his pastor. It really isn't hard to figure out why he did so. There is a pretty strong force in this country that would like to see all religion disappear for the very reason that they believe churches are responsible for starting wars and keeping hatred alive. Those that support Wright, point to the righteous right for their own form of hate which usually includes the gay community as their focus. I think there is nothing wrong with all religions but the problem is interpreting words that others have written and somehow applying it to modern times. I have news for Huck. Many would never vote for him just because he is a pastor. I would bet that number is well above 50 percent. He is NOT electable. So to diffuse that reality he has decided to inject a bit of politics just to make it seem like the republican party isn't all bad. See he got that from the speech Barack gave when he suggested that blacks are held back due to programs by white corporate America that is only concerned with making a buck. If anybody recalls, it was Barack and Michelle that recently suggested that supporters give up their corporate jobs and do community work which is not a bad idea but practically not feasible for most. But then Barack knew that but it sounded good and looks good on his resume.

Posted by: Susan | Mar 20, 2008 5:16:05 PM

Mike Huckabee,

I may not agree with some of your views, but I do believe you are a kind man, a man of conviction and moral character. I respect and admire you for it.

For the real hate-mongers out there, what time is it?

084ma TIME!!!

Posted by: Ollie Garth | Mar 20, 2008 4:49:26 PM

Please everyone take a breath and just stop and think about what is being said. The snipits of what Rev Wright said were in relation to his sermon and a point that he was attempting to make. The media (pundits)have given just enough to cause a rise in veiwership,etc. Rev. Wright never made any threats to white america he spoke about the government being responsible the same about AIDS. Why is it that we currently have 2 T.V.pundits arguing about who broke the story first (Ratings)and the entire story remains untold? Maybe this is a way in which the 2 aforementioned personalities can promote their own political wishes, and if the outcome is to further fracture race relations in this country and create the collaspe of the Democractic party "so be it".

Posted by: bill | Mar 20, 2008 4:12:25 PM

I don't think Obama was trying to throw his granny under the bus I think he was simply trying to say he can't distance himself from his love ones because of the ignorant things that come out of their mouths,including the Rev.Come on people we all have friends and family that shame us with things they say and do.Food for thought I guess many still only see Obama's skin color because still his mother is a white woman but because his skin is dark people are still intimidated,racism at it's finest. Americans need to broaden their horizons change is always good

Posted by: coretta tagan | Mar 20, 2008 4:04:06 PM

I just want to point out that of course Rev. Wright was never a slave, hell that ended over 100 years ago. But I know he delt with the civil rights violations, and was excluded from many of things as a young man because of his race. So he actually is speaking from experience and not just speaking out of term. sure enough some of the comments he made about America are harsh, but hell I believe the USA created HIV/AIDS too to decrease the minority population but it happen to spill over to the caucasians as well. I don't think Rev. Wright is racist, he is angry and he was probably caught up in the emotion of his sermon. Obama should not be criticized because of Rev. Wright's words. They were not Obama's, and last where was the media when Bill Clinton says :" Winning in the south is no big deal, hell Jesse Jackson won there too." Very obvious that was a jab at the race of both men. Also where was the media when Ferreo says:" Obama is only winning because he is black." Which I sort of agree with now that I think of it, because if Obama were white "The Clintons" would have already cheated and won. Because he is black everyone is watching her and her campaign with a microscope so she can't cheat, and do an injustice to America. deny us one the history most historical figures, and very intelligent man from trying to correct the problems of our "so called great leaders of America."

Posted by: njc | Mar 20, 2008 2:53:52 PM

Setting standards today based on the 60s & earlier is for those of that era, if they can't move on.
The successful young blacks today stand on brave, broad shoulders, BUT they have been spared the injustices Mr. Huckabee refers to, and have a right to move on.
Mr. Huckabee never owned a slave & preacher Wright was never a slave, though he has made some hay from the plight of the civil rights protestors, so they are stuck in the past and will continue to waller in guilt or self-pity as it suits them----but it is time to let the youth of all races rise above this issue.

Hey, the political spinners & media make a big point that Obama dealt with a tough issue forced on him, because he was so brave.---Do they mean
MARINE BRAVE?

Respectfully;
Billy Bob, Florida

Posted by: Billy Bob | Mar 20, 2008 2:22:36 PM

Elsie, I was only pointing out the simple fact in order to illustrate that we Republicans are not the ogres that the Far Left and the mainstream media portray us. Yes, sadly, there are bigots within our Party. But as we can clearly see, based on the Democratic Party's campaign for determining their presidental nominee, that the Democrats have bigots as well.

It does sadden me that the Republicans in 1877 chose the White House over the principle of protecting the African-American vote in the South. The Compromise of 1877 was a disaster for race relations. The Republicans promised to stay out of southern politics (which is what was protecting the African-American vote) in favor of the Democrats conceding the 1876 election to the Republicans. The Democrats promised to respect the African-American vote, but reniged on their promise. Had the Republicans not allowed the Democrats to disenfranchise African-Americans following Reconstruction, the wound of slavery might not have been as deep.

You are correct, slavery should never have been allowed to exist here in America. Our founding fathers knew it was wrong, but still allowed slavery to flourish. Even after writing the words "All men are created equal" they still refused to abolish slavery. But all that is in the past!

The Republican Party, today, doesn't do enough to encourage minorities -- especially African-Americans -- to run for elective office. We know that many African-Americans choose not to run for office as Republicans because they will face vicious reverse racism. And their families feel the full brunt of the reverse racism. Who would want that for their children? We understand this. But we cannot just accept this. By 2032, African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians will make up over 50% of the population. If our Party does not wake up and it remains the Party of the "old, white males," we will become irrelevant.

Regular readers of this blog know that I was hoping for a brokered Republican Convention so that the delegates could draft Dr. Condoleezza Rice as our nominee. Now that Sen. McCain is the nominee I hope that he will select Dr. Rice to be his running mate. We will never really break the stereotype of being a bigoted Party until are actions show that we are not.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 20, 2008 2:10:59 PM

I've heard the Bill O'Reilly's give their one-sided opinions and then speak on behalf of ALL white people in this country. But how many have heard the entire sermon? How can people base their opinions on edited clips? My husband has seen different clips than I have and we both disagree. Sure, the AIDS comments sound delusional but are you aware of how many people actually believe the government had something to do with that? In college I use to hear various races agreeing with that. I think it is idiotic but many people certainly believe the government had its hand in giving humans AIDS and putting drugs in the inner cities. After the Tuskegee experiments and Jim Crow, many people will never trust our government completely.

Also, Geraldo Rivera changed his name to Jerry Rivers in college so he wouldn't be known as a Hispanic. Now he's so hell bent to protect illegal immigrants at all costs to his own country and to say there's some kind of race war in Los Angeles between Hispanics and Blacks. This could be farther from the truth. There have been gangs in L.A. for years and the illegals are now coming in killing blacks randomly. It was just proven in a recent court case. He should be concentrating on injustice for all, pure and simple. Parents in L.A are complaining about the ESL programs and how its affecting public schools. There are many problems that aren't getting reported.

Posted by: Francesca | Mar 20, 2008 1:56:17 PM

Clinton is done! The GOP is done! You losers just don't want to accept it. Stop getting your hopes up, which you shouldn't have anyway since Clinton mocks hope.

This "vetting" WILL NOT stop the "MOVEMENT". Obama is not losing his support. He is gaining because he is looking more and more presidential. His support is growing. We knew it was a matter of time before the wolves would come out to eat.

What you still don't get is this powerful phrase:

"NOT THIS TIME"!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tre | Mar 20, 2008 1:30:02 PM

Well after hearing Reverend Right's comments and how racist he is, I'm convinced that Obama has no busniess leading the nation.

Posted by: Tim | Mar 20, 2008 1:17:40 PM

Come on folks, the key is to remember the past so as to not repeat the same mistakes. But you don't want to dwell on the past! A wound will never heal if you continue to pick at it. The same is true with regards to the racial injustices of the past. That wound will never heal as long as there are those who constantly dig into the wound. The discussion is healthy, we don't want to ever make those mistakes again. But too many in our society want to force everyone to relive the past, instead of just remember the past. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s dream will never come to fruition until we, as a society, can look beyond the color of our skin. And that goes both ways.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 20, 2008 1:12:04 PM

I'm no fan of any of the candidates and haven't voted for a promising candidate since the media worked a number on Howard Dean, over something superficial and down right stupid. I will say this and hope you all understand where I'm coming from. I don't give a rat's bottom whom he(Obama) associates with. The people that do just use that as an excuse to try to manipulate and gain supporters for their own choices (Hilary) (Mcain) and the worst administration ever in the history of our great nation. When I look across the board at all of these candidates I see the element of leadership in only one... and that One is Obama hands down. I would rather vote republican because democrats are typically clueless and want to control everything. But I cannot and will not deny the powerful feeling that I have that this man "Obama" can lift us past so many afflictions that impact our society. DO NOT let the media decide for us. The ignorance, manipulation and intimidation of the american media machine is unparallel in the world. Mr Wright is an idiot but until I see a video of Obama making those statements himself he has my vote. Further I just don't get the feeling that Obama is easily led by anyone. He may listen to your viewpoint calmly but will challenge you on it while maintaining his own belief system... I just don't see this guy being led by the nose by anyone, his presence is just too powerful for that... anyways that's my two cents on it. Wish the republicans had a real candidate but we don't so I'm picking the best from the group.

Posted by: thepromised1 | Mar 20, 2008 1:09:00 PM

Hello relentless critics of Rev. Wright's comments and Obama's affiliation with him, I have a question. Your outrage about this instance, what are you so outraged about? Do you truly think that Obama is running for president because of his secret hatred so that he can destroy America? I don't understand what all the anger is about. I can understand being upset at the comments being made, but, in the big picture, what does that really mean? I want to believe we are all better than that.

Posted by: come on folks | Mar 20, 2008 12:57:40 PM

I am an African-American woman who is supporting Obama not because he's black but because he seems to be a man of integrity. I never voted for Jesse Jackson because I felt he was a little to one-sided in his views, although I may be wrong about him. I voted for Bush in the last two general elections; but I have to say after listening to reading Mike Huckabee's statements in this interview, I am so disappointed that he is no longer in the race of President of the United States. Huckabee and Senator Obama seem to be real men of integrity. If Obama lost the election to a man like Huckabee I would be more than O.K. with that.

Obama/Huckabee or Huckabee/Obama '08

God bless you Mr. Huckabee

Posted by: ddpwoman | Mar 20, 2008 12:51:26 PM

Obama's speech is one of the coldest political exploitation I have ever heard: attacking his own grandmother by comparing her private fear of black men to his pastor (Wright)'s public anti-american, racism vitriol. This guy would say anything to get ahead.

Posted by: Jermane | Mar 20, 2008 12:26:52 PM

You know a person by the company he/she keeps. Obama has kept this anti-American, racist for 20 years as his pastor and "inspirational mentor" (Obama's own word)

Posted by: Shella_TX | Mar 20, 2008 12:25:35 PM

"For all the wonderful rhetoric and tantalizing promise of Obama and his speech, there’s not much that is actually new here. Obama's speech was largely a restatement of Jeremiah Wright’s indictment of America, delivered in University of Chicago parlance instead of South Side Chicago diatribe".

Posted by: BobLOOP | Mar 20, 2008 12:24:11 PM

Obama attempted to explain Wright's anger as typical of the civil rights generation, with its "memories of humiliation and doubt and fear." But Wright's problem is exactly the opposite: He ignored the message of Martin Luther King Jr. and introduced a new generation to the politics of hatred.

Posted by: KatieOB | Mar 20, 2008 12:23:00 PM


Obama's speech did little to address his strange tolerance for the anti-Americanism of his spiritual mentor

Posted by: Mark | Mar 20, 2008 12:21:48 PM

The cat is out of the bag, and we are now seeing the real soul of Obama being revealed by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright who, by the way, would have likely ended up in the Obama cabinet at the White House were Obama to be elected.

Posted by: Leslie | Mar 20, 2008 12:19:57 PM

Obama's pastor and mentor of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright is a man who less than a week after 9/11 gave a sermon that sadistically rejoiced how America's chickens had come home to roost. Five days earlier, Americans (of all colors, incidentally) had leapt from the World Trade Center to escape the flames. And this is the Wright context!

Posted by: Nicole_NH | Mar 20, 2008 12:15:58 PM

Liz, you wrote: "I've grown accustomed to tuning out conservative Republicans..." Actually if you tuned into Rush Limbaugh for the full three hours, every day for one week, you would discover that we conservative Republicans are NOT the ogres that most liberals portray us to be. Rush Limbaugh is actually an extremely thoughful individual. Unfortunately the Far Left and the main stream media continually twist his words. In fact, they have been twisting our words for decades.

One of the most infamous twists occurred in 1995. Newt Gingrich said the following: "What do you think the health care financing administration is? It's a centralized command bureaucracy. It's everything we're telling Boris Yeltsin to get rid of. Now we don't get rid of it in round one because we don't think that's politically smart and we don't think that's the right way to go through a transition. But we believe it's going to wither on the vine because we think people are going to voluntarily leave it. Voluntarily."

Newt Gingrich was referring to the health care financing administration withering on the vine. Yet throughout the 1996 presidential campaign, the Far Left and the mainstream media bombarded the airwaves saying that Newt Gingrich wanted MEDICARE to wither on the vine. They intentionally scared senior citizens into believing that we Republicans wanted to take Medicare and their Social Security payments away from them.

I listen carefully to the Far Left. I have listened carefully to both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama. They are Socialists. In fact, Sen. Clinton has been much more brazen and forthcoming with her intentions. She wants to do away with an ownership society and to "replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity." She prefers a "we're all in it together society." That is Communistic.

Now when it comes to race, the Republican Party (Conservatives in general) have been portrayed as bigots. Yet it was the Republican Party that gave African-Americans full citizenship, including the right to vote in 1866. Yes that is right! The Civil Rights Act of 1866 did give African-Americans the right to vote. In fact, African-Americans exercised that right and had control of many districts in the South during Reconstruction. An African-American, P. B. S. Pinchback, was actually the acting governor of Louisiana for 35 days (Dec 9, 1872-Jan 13, 1873). But prior to that, Hiram Revels (R-MS) was elected to the U. S. Senate (he served just one year); and several African-Americans were elected to the U. S. House of Representatives. In 1874, Blanche K. Bruce (R-MS) was elected to the U. S. Senate (and served a full 6-year term).

BUT, the Democrats began using intimidation and fear (i.e., the KKK) to keep African-Americans away from the polls. By 1890, the Democrats had taken full control of the state legislatures and began disenfranchising African-American voters with literacy tests and poll taxes. That is pretty much the way it remained until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed -- but only after the filibuster by southern Democrats was ended by the Republicans. It is worth noting that between 1933 and 1964 there were 26 major civil rights votes. Majority of Democrats OPPOSED these 80% of the time. Majority of the Republicans voted FOR these votes over 96% of the time.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 20, 2008 12:04:41 PM

You libs get me laughing, You guys think morals do not matter in a leader, (NJ governor (2), NY governor (2))
Racism does not matter (Obama and Clinton)
Anti-Americanism does not matter (Obama)
Lying under oath (Clinton)
Insulting our troops (All Democrat Congressman/woman)
All the above and more does not matter,
But Someone mis-speaks after taking a around the world trip, well thats disgraceful and makes him dishonest!!he does not know the facts.

By the way again if Al Qeade is in every country, why is it that they are never in the country we are looking at, you libs that naive, well I guess because you think Obama is a great speaker.

Obama is no Lincoln, nor FDR, nor JFK and Definitely NO Reagan, these Presidents spoke to the American People not at them and above them. If you watched Obama during his speech he could not look into the camera straight at us, this is proven fact that he is lying!

Posted by: spock | Mar 20, 2008 11:54:51 AM

Huck has clearly stated he is not defending what Rev wright has said, but only defended where most of his race is feeling. Sometimes those feelings are justified, but wrongly expressed. This is what Huck is pointing out here. There is no question that the Rev Wright's comments are hateful and wrong. Obama himself is saying the same thing in his speech.

Posted by: Chris Taylor | Mar 20, 2008 11:40:18 AM

There are too sides to every story.I guess the saying is true: east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet. Hillary supporters will find reasons to support her no matter what. McCain supporters will find reasons to support him no matter what. Obama supporters will find reasons to support him no matter what. But if you dig deep enough you will find the dirtiest of dirt on each of them. People let religion and so-called patriotism issues get in the way of making wise decisions about who they vote for but how we express religion and patriotism is personal for each of us. Going to church does not make me religious or a good person. Wearing a pin on my lapel does not mean I'm a patriot. I have come to dislike Hillary Clinton because of how her campaign is being run and the fact that she truly is a "do-anything/say-anything to get the nomination no matter how much damage she causes" candidate. Her behavior in this campaign has been egocentric and kind of vicious. McCain just plain scares me. The guy can't even get his facts straight on the issues in Iraq and THIS is a president we can trust to keep us safe? Whew! We're in serious trouble if he winds up in the White House. Obama, while not perfect, is a really smart guy who is calm, measured, and THINKS. I don't care about his religion or what church he went to or what his pastor said. I don't care if he wears the flag on his jacket. Hey, Bush and Cheney wear the pin flag and they are really close to destroying this country with their so-called brand of "patriotism." My concerns are my paycheck, gas prices, paying my mortgage, bringing our kids home from Iraq in one piece, and being able to pay my medical bills and I honestly don't give two hoots about anybody's religion or the so-called patriotic ornaments they have on their clothing. Obama will make a truly great president if we give him the chance to prove it. Let's try to keep the garbage issues where garbage belongs - in the trash bin.

Posted by: Chan | Mar 20, 2008 11:37:25 AM

Well we always knew Huckabee was not a conservative! Because Conservatives and Republicans DO SUPPORT ANY TYPE of RACISM as the libs do!

Posted by: spock | Mar 20, 2008 11:32:07 AM

Wow! And with Scarborough interviewing -- clearly he could easily have gone the other way on this! I'm impressed! Huckabee's way to conservative to be my president, but he certainly brought some reasonableness to this discussion.

Hopefully, he'll hold those same views come September!

Posted by: Jackt51 | Mar 20, 2008 11:25:45 AM

Wow, I'm an independent that never really looked twice at Mike Huckabee as he was always too far to the right for me. I have to say I am impressed with his honesty and candor here. Well said Mr. Huckabee, maybe there is more to you than I thought. You set an example that I am sure the Clinton campaign will not follow.

Posted by: Cheryl | Mar 20, 2008 11:13:58 AM

SPARKAL, a leader does not "follow" the varied winds of popular opinion. That is why Vice President Cheney responded with "So!" They strongly believe (as do I) that defeating al Qaeda in Iraq is the only option we have in defeating the extremists. Cutting and running, and handing al Qaeda a military victory -- even if it is because the American people are tired of the war -- will only embolden al Qaeda. If we bring our troops home before Iraq is able to defend, govern and sustain itself, the extremists will have won. But any peace that we will enjoy here at home will be short lived. There is no guarantee that staying in Iraq until the extremists are defeated will prevent another attack here at home. BUT cutting and running will guarantee another attack here it home. Al Qaeda is determined to end Western Civilization. They will fight us no matter where we are. We should take the same stance!

Now then as for the price of gas, you can blame the Democrats and the environmentalist for that! They have prevented new drilling of oil (i.e., Anwar and off shore drilling) and have blocked the construction of new refineries for decades. Besides, the Democrats have been calling for us to pay as much for our gasoline as the Europeans pay for theirs ($6-$8). If the Democrats have their way, they will raise the federal tax on gasoline $1-$2 if not more!

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 20, 2008 11:04:32 AM

The fact of the matter is this is something that is being blown out of context. You can not predict what your pastor says! The fact is if Hillary gets the nomination the Republicans are going to demolish her. I was watching CNN and listening to the Republican commentators who said that their dream is for Hillary to get the nomination because they know that they can defeat her. If you vote for Hillary who has proven to be unstable and a dirty politican you may as well vote for Mccain a contender that has no intention of bringing our troops home. You say Obama has taken help from bad people well he released his tax records what about Hillary? She has been playing dirty since she realized that she may lose! I don't want a moody, indecisive, liar in office we have one of those in office now. It is fair to say that since Bush has been in office America has gone way down. We have all suffered at the hands of this idiot! Hillary voted for the war! Obama did not Obama will bring our troops home in '09 Hillary 2013. Read and state the facts if she gets into office you better lock up the interns! I am an African American from a small town that still has a racial divide I want a president that is not afraid to address this issue we are all God's children I believe that Obama has proven that we are ready to move into a brighter future. We need a new fresh inspiration in office and people like it or not that person is Obama! If Hillary wins we are going to be in the same predictament because Mccain has no intention of bringing our Husbands, Daughters, Sons, Wives,cousins and friends home. Please make the right choice. Obama 08

Posted by: The truth | Mar 20, 2008 10:45:26 AM

Hope to see you in 2012, Gov. Huckabee!

Posted by: Jason V | Mar 20, 2008 10:30:55 AM

This should no longer be news. What should be the head story FOR WEEKS TO COME is who when asked his opinion on the fact that the American people believe this is an unjust war, his response was simply "so." This is a slap in the faces of the American people who can barely afford to pay for gas because of this waR and all that the can say is "so." That is an insult to the 3900 soldiers that have lost their lives in Iraq. Come on people wake up! If this isn't the biggest display of unpatriotism I don't know what is. Who is more of threat to us, an angry retired pastor of a small church or a Vice President of the most powerful country in the world who responds to our cries with "So?" WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!! THIS SHOULD BE THE HEADLINE!

Posted by: SPARKAL | Mar 20, 2008 10:21:07 AM

i LOVE AMERICA

Posted by: sparkal | Mar 20, 2008 10:06:25 AM

Like most people there are things about myself that I would change if I could. Two things that I would definitely not change are my skin color, or the era that I now live in. I am not a celebrity or some young politician in the making. I am a soon to be 25 year old African American male from Detroit, Michigan, currently residing in suburban Atlanta, Georgia. I have seen my hometown crumble before my eyes under the strain of flawed free trade policies, and corporate greed. Both of which have crippled the ability of American workers to earn decent employment opportunities. I have also seen billions of dollars wasted by an administration that cares less about people, and more about oil profits and the opportunity to rule the world with its iron fist of democracy. This is my America and I am proud to be American, but not proud of the way America conducts itself. It is foolish if we believe that the rest of the world loves us as much as we love ourselves. In my opinion, Jeremiah Wright is not racist at all, or just another old man bitter at the United States for its past indiscretions. He simply told the truth about how this country really operates. To the black community, this is no secret even to a young man such as myself. Barack Obama did what he had to do in this tough situation. If he bowed to conservatives and disrespected Rev. Wright, he risked alienating his black base. On the other side, if he agreed with the controversial statements, he risked losing the support of many whites in this country that have supported him up until this point. He played it of well by condemning the statements by Wright and at the same time not condemning the individual. In the same manner as the Louis Farrakhan situation last month, Barack took a solid hit on the chin from both his critics and the media. Most blacks in America understand that he has rules to follow in order to be able to play ball. I hope that both ministers Farrakhan and Wright understand that it is nothing personal against them, just the cost of doing business when running for President. I for one just hope he keeps his focus on the prize ahead and slides home safely with victories in August and more importantly November 2008.

Posted by: Eric M. | Mar 20, 2008 9:59:54 AM

Wow....as a liberal Democrat I am shocked at reading the thoughtfulness of Mike Huckabee. I've grown accustomed to tuning out conservative Republicans...putting them all in the Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly category. Maybe there is hope for all of us afterall.

I am a 49 year-old White woman who grew up in a small Texas town. Growing up, Blacks were not welcomed across the tracks on the "White" side of town after dark and as a child I used to wonder where do the children of color go for fun? They were not welcomed at the movies, the skating rink, the bowling alley...none of the places I enjoyed so much. So I will not judge others because of their anger or their right to be angry for experiences that I could never understand. Nor will I mistake someone's anger for hate because we all say hateful things when we are angry and hurt.

Posted by: Liz | Mar 20, 2008 9:24:17 AM

I remember my very white, very conservative, very republican pastor saying things very similar to those of Rev. Wright the Sunday after 9/11. Many of us in the conservative church did. I also thought they were outlandish and out of line - but I dearly love my pastor. I did not leave the church, I did not walk out of that service. I did tell him what I thought.

I hope that no one holds me responsible for what my pastor said that Sunday, just as I hope that no one holds Obama responsible for what his pastor said many years ago.

Posted by: F J | Mar 20, 2008 8:54:13 AM

Hillary Clinton has never done nothing for us,'" said Sharpton

meaning Hillary Clinton has always done something for them.

Posted by: geevill | Mar 20, 2008 8:53:33 AM

Thinking - The answer is simple. Senator Obama is an individual with his own opinions and not an Oprah lackey.

However, if you really want to make this into a big deal don't look at that comparison but ask yourself why the Mayor of Chicago, the Governor of IL and the people of Chicago have said this is a non-issue.

Back to the judgment question. I think his integrity is impeccable. The fact that this man stood in front of America and embraced his "controversial" longtime friend instead of doing the politically correct thing and distancing himself shows the backbone and character required in a President. As well as the ability to balance diverse and opposing views while never throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I think McCain would probably have had that same backbone (I think he has impeccable character as well) if this were a long time associate of his. I do believe (and Im not a Democrat) that at least one candidate would've thrown this individual under the bus and that is Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Syl | Mar 20, 2008 8:26:59 AM

I applaud everything that Mr. Huckabee has said on this topic. He is one of the few people that have acknowledged the real problem with these events. The issue isnt the words Rev. Wright used but rather the deep resentment he and his generation still feel from their life experiences. If you think he is full of hate, you are probably correct. Hate for the people that commited those attrocities against a people that looked like him and against him personally. Does that make him a racist? In some opinions, yes. In my opinion, no. People will forever look to dismiss the root cause of a problem because it's easier to deal with the issue of the moment but had we seen this same outrage during the first 70 years of the 20th century perhaps those wounds would have begun to heal.

If you are truly offended by Rev. Wright's statements you probably can't put them into the context of his experiences and are naive enough to believe that people view the world through the same lens.

If you aren't offended you should make sure you aren't embracing these statements out of resentment for those judging Rev. Wright. The fact is...unless you have walked in his shoes or shared his experiences you really have no basis for sharing his feelings.

Last thing, Rev. James Meeks is far from racist. For those of you trying to locate every black minister associated with Senator Obama I warn you now that you Democrats can ill afford to alienate the black vote and one sure fire way of doing that is to go after their spiritual leaders regardless of your personal opinions.

Syl

Posted by: Syl | Mar 20, 2008 8:17:12 AM

Enough of this!

For all the patriotic furfer waiting to be employed by the Republicans. I wonder why it is not their boys fighting the war, and why they do not want to pay the taxes to support it. It seems they all want to be patriotic on the cheap.

Posted by: Thinking | Mar 20, 2008 8:12:44 AM

My question is ,If Oprah stoped going to that church, how come Obama did not stop Going after he become U.S. senator ?

He has poor JUDGEMENT.

Posted by: David | Mar 20, 2008 7:35:39 AM

wright isn't the only controversial advisor Obama has. searchyoutubefor reverend james meeks. There's video of him making the same type of racist comments. Meeks is a close friend and spiritual consultant to Sen. Obama. Rev. Meeks appeared in TV ads for Obama’s US Senate campaign; Obama campaigned at his church; and went there for prayer the night he won that primary. Meeks was on his exploratory committee for the Presidency, and his church choir performed at a rally for Obama the night he announced.

Posted by: cc | Mar 20, 2008 7:28:01 AM

Mike Huckabee tells the simple truth, and the real bigots run from it like cockroaches from the light.

Posted by: David Anderson | Mar 20, 2008 7:16:58 AM

This is the reason Huckabee was sent packing. You will see all his supporters doing the same thing as Obama's. Regreting the minute they ever voted for him.

Posted by: Mark David | Mar 20, 2008 7:00:52 AM

How dare Rev Wright suggest the events of 9/11 was deserved and that the government invented AIDS to kill black people? Obviously, it is such comments that are the real reason why race is still such a big issue, right? No!

I am African, and having experienced just an inkling of what African Americans go through on a daily basis, I was very tempted to pick Rev. Wright's side. This is a man who grew up in the civil rights era where his fellows in the south were being lynched, forced to sit in the back of buses and denied access to good education and jobs simply because they happened to be born black. And after all this you expect him to be patriotic and think highly of the American government? The same government that denied treatment to 399 poor black men, so as to study the effects of untreated syphillis. However, Obama's reponse made me pause.
I do know deep within me the unfairness white people have to face daily. The unfairness of having race shoved down my face daily. The unfairness of being told to endure collective guilt for something that happened before one was born. I would also wonder why even though I never enslaved anyone, I didn't permit segregation, and yet whenever i ask why I have to give up going to a good school, or getting a good job due to affirmative action, I am labeled as a bigot. This will make me deeply offended and highly outraged too.

I can't blame you for being angry that Obama allowed Rev. Wright to remain his spiritual mentor? I can't blame you for feeling Obama should have taken a stronger stance for or against his pastor.
But I believe everyone has a point. A point you would not see if you choose to take sides as I was tempted to do. I deeply respect Obama's stance that though Rev. Wright's statements were wrong, he couldn't reject the man. To seek true racial reconciliation and make America a country a land of equal opportunity for all, we must first learn to choose unity over divisiveness. We must learn to embrace the other side and admit that their concerns are important us. Obama's vision has profoundly changed my thoughts about racial relations and even if he loses the election, his message of hope and unity will echo on down the ages.

Posted by: JD | Mar 20, 2008 6:44:24 AM

On a rainy day many years ago my Grandparents refused to ride in the car with a 5 year old black play mate of mine who I assured that my mother would take her home.My Grandfather spoke loudly when he called this child a "N word". When my mother refused to cooperate, he and my grandmother stepped out to the curb. I've often thought of that day and the impact it had on me, and wondered what kind of impact it had on her. She remained silent but not shocked by this behavior. She is now close to Rev.Wright's age and may have had a lifetime of holding on to her dignity and anger. I understood what Obama was talking about. I never fought with my grandfather about his opinions, nor did I ever treat him disrespectfully. I did however see how damaging this behavior is and patterned my life in another direction. Obama made a magnificient speech. I was not going to vote for him but now I'm reconsidering.

Posted by: Sharon | Mar 20, 2008 6:36:00 AM

Wright's hateful 911 sermon shows Michelle Obama in the front row, standing up between secondsa 42 and 45 to applaud and then sit down.

Posted by: Warren5678 | Mar 20, 2008 6:18:47 AM

There goes your VP spot.lol.I am truly dissappointed with Obama.I looked upon him as future great leader of America.But,you can't become my President, by associating,supporting )guilt by association) and listening through vile,vitriolic racial hatred and simply untruths about the white race,AIDS etc,and become our beloved President.You associated with the man who said all those hateful things for 20 years,visted Ghadaffi's Libya, gave Fararakhan a lifetime award and then want to be our President. You are no longer another black man. YOU WANT TO BECOME OUR PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Warren5678 | Mar 20, 2008 6:10:50 AM

I think Mike Huckabee has been the one calming influence in this race. He is open, down-to-earth and able to see both sides of an issue. He is also not afraid to take a stand on the side of thoughtfulness over emotion.

What he has overlooked in Obama is the element of judgment that we are trying to identify in our candidates and that is what has people doubting Obama. It didn't take 20 years for him to come out angrily about Ferarro's "racist" remarks. Within 24 hours, Obama publicly asked NBC to fire Don Imus for his remarks but in 20 years never found it nceessary to criticise Rev. Wright.

For us to believe that he can be the one to overcome the friction and pain of race relations in our country is a joke. It is worth any effort but cannot be done among racists on either side and I cannot trust Obama to have the judgment we need at this time. Why did he not explain the reason that Wright was an official part of his campaign? Why could he not have closed his speech with "God Bless America"? I think people were waiting for that.

Posted by: doofus | Mar 20, 2008 6:06:41 AM

Hey, thanks for the following data:

shall leave all of you Clinton supporters with the good news of the day. Clinton was up in the polls today with a statistically significant lead. Polls generally don't mean a lot unless you read the fine print.

At a first glance, the various polls listed on real clear politics makes it looks like Obama is beating Clinton hands down. But the margin of error for each poll tells a very different story: they were statistically tied in every poll but the one where she was actually ahead.

Gallup Tracking | Obama: 39.2% - 44.8%, Clinton: 46.2% - 51.8%

Rasmussen Tracking | Obama: 43.7% - 50.3%, Clinton: 38.7% - 45.3%

CBS News | Obama: 35.8% - 42.2%, Clinton: 33.8% - 40.2%

CNN | Obama: 47.4% - 56.6%, Clinton: 40.4% - 49.6%

USA Today/Gallup | Obama: 44.7% - 53.3%, Clinton: 37.7% - 46.3%

Reuters/Zogby | Obama: 42.7% - 51.3%, Clinton: 39.7% - 48.3%

In simpler terms -- if the percent ranges for each candidate overlap at all for a given poll, then there is not sufficient evidence to conclude there is a significant difference, aka they are tied.

Have a good night and sweet dreams of a Clinton victory.

Go Clinton 2008 !!!

Here are some hair rasing facts about Obama:

http://votersusa.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Meck | Mar 20, 2008 5:53:28 AM

Samuel: You are delusional. Mike Huckabee never preached an anti-Mormon sermon in his life. And regarding the controversial question he asked the NY Times reporter (who is an expert in various religions)whether Mormons believe Jesus and Satan are spiritual brothers, in fact that IS an OFFICIAL Mormon doctrine. Don't take my word for it, you can check it out on the official LDS website or Google it. As you can see from Huckabee's comments regarding Rev. Wright, Mike Huckabee is a tolerant and non-judgmental person. You should try to learn from him rather than slamming him with a lie!

Posted by: petee | Mar 20, 2008 5:51:04 AM

Great News! Indeed Hillary is ahead by average 12 points nationwide according to polls conducted by AOL, CBS, WSJ, and other groups.

Hey Hillary, your day is here.

Posted by: MI-DelC | Mar 20, 2008 5:45:42 AM

Mike Huckabee, once again, comes across as someone with understanding and wisdom. Aside from his sagacity concerning race relations he understands timing in politics. Limbaugh and his ilk are hammering away on this Rev. Wright thing like it's a week before the election. Come October people are going to be so tired hearing about Rev Wright that they'll turn off their TVs if the Repubs try to milk the issue. Mike, too bad America didn't have the sense to choose you!

Posted by: petee | Mar 20, 2008 5:38:05 AM

The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Repent and believe the gospel.

Posted by: me | Mar 20, 2008 4:18:53 AM

Huckabee and Wright belong to the same camp of hate. Huckabee incited anti-Mormon bigotry in Iowa and throughout the South during his presidential candidancy. His brand of evangelicalism was to preach anti-Mormonism sermons from the pulpit so how was he different from Wright? None.

Posted by: Samuel | Mar 20, 2008 4:04:45 AM

This election has had many scandals and the media have eagerly thrown them toward Mike Huckabee, in great anticipation of the "red meat" he would hopefully make of his opponents mistakes and "skeletons." In every single situation, no matter whether it concerned democrat or republican, Mike Huckabee chose to lift them up rather than try to profit by tearing them down as all the pundits were doing. Mike Huckabee is a man of sagacious integrity, wit, and practical sense.
Mike Huckabee is a truly honorable and genuine American who wants to bring back the American Dream to anyone who wants to hope, work and live it. Mike wants to work for everyone from Wall Street to Main Street. He respects the corporate boss, but really cares about the average hard working family in rural America. He understands us because he is one of us. He is unfailing in principle and would never compromise his values for a vote.
Here is the secret of Mike Huckabee in his own words.
"The greatness of this country has never been in it's government, but in the extraordinary things that its ordinary people are willing to do for their neighbors."
"We will be a strong nation that will apologize to no one for our strength."
"I'd like to be the kind of president that's more concerned about the people on Main Street, not just the folks on Wall Street. Let's never forget who the real boss is. I work for those people, they don't work for me."
"I would consider it the highest honor of my life, if you would give me the opportunity not to rule, but to serve."
Mike Huckabee is a candidate for the people, of the people, by the people. I hope for the sake of our entire country that we have not seen the last of him!

Posted by: akprayingmom | Mar 20, 2008 3:45:00 AM


Thursday, March 20, 2008

During rally, Al Sharpton says he's keeping support for Obama quiet
By ADAM SERWER and MICHAEL SAUL
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Wednesday, March 19th 2008, 4:00 AM

The Rev. Al Sharpton is backing Barack Obama, but he's made the strategic decision to keep his support quiet.

That's the message Sharpton delivered to his flock last Saturday as he boasted of talking to Obama "two or three times a week" - and insisted the Democratic front-runner knows the rev is in his camp.

"I said, 'I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do to help you. Hillary Clinton has never done nothing for us,'" said Sharpton, recounting a conversation with Obama for his followers at his group's weekly rally.

"'I won't either endorse you or not endorse you,'" Sharpton said he told the Illinois senator as the two made their way to a Nov. 29 dinner at Sylvia's Restaurant in Harlem. "'But I will tell you I can be freer not endorsing you to help you and everybody else.'"

According to Sharpton, Obama protested and asked for his public support. "'No, no, no. I want you to endorse,'" Sharpton recalled Obama saying.

Sharpton told Obama that it would be better strategically for him to remain publicly neutral.

"If I endorse you, and they jump on somebody in Jena, you're going to want me not to go because the press is going to ask you what about your supporter," Sharpton said.

"Negroes just [ask], 'What, what's Sharpton gonna do,'" he explained. "If you understand strategy, you get somewhere."

An endorsement from the controversial Sharpton is a double-edged sword, impressing some voters and driving others away.

Sharpton told the Daily News yesterday he has no plans to officially endorse Obama, but admitted he's "absolutely supportive" of his White House bid.

"If people got that impression on Saturday, that is the right impression," he crowed.

Sharpton said one of the reasons he has "started discussing my private feelings is because of the disappointment I've had in the public conduct of the Clinton campaign."

He specifically cited racially tinged statements from former President Bill Clinton, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro as troubling.

Asked to explain his comment that Clinton had "done nothing for us," Sharpton said he was referring to his organization, the National Action Network, not the black community.

A spokesman for Clinton declined to comment, while an Obama spokesman refused to comment on private conversations with Sharpton.

Posted by: Eric | Mar 20, 2008 3:07:20 AM

Becki-I'm a Native American. This is my motherland, the only motherland I have. We do not have our land anymore, nor did anyone stand up when we were being killed off. Now, we still don't have churches swearing on America. So, I don't buy your argument how bad Reverend Wright had it in this country. He's got a great house, better than mine. A better vehicle than me, more money than me and he can afford to travel all over the world when I can't. Just how bad does Wright have it? That sound bad to you?

Posted by: Dogsoldier
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Dogsoldier, I know Native Americans have not had it good at all and I think that is very sad. I visited a reservation in Arizona and I could see the poverty and the sadness in people's eyes. I am sorry. Maybe with President Obama at the helm, things will get and be better for you as well.

| believe Becki was talking about Rev. Wright enduring the prejudices and ill treatment into the 60s. I went to college in Arkansas in 1962 when African Americas sat at the back of the bus, they were not allowed into restaurants, and they couldn't even go into a regular store to buy things. I was appalled at the way they were treated. Some of the white girls with whom I made friends would invite me to their homes and people would say if an African American came into town they would "lynch" him/her. I believe this is the kind of thing Beckie was talking about. I was from out of state, as were others, we were the ones that mingled with African American students..and, believe me, we would get the "evil eye" from others. Our thing was, we are not FROM Arkansas, we could choose who we talked with.

Good luck and I hope things get better for you.

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 20, 2008 2:48:54 AM

Gee, the hatred, the bigotry, the false accusations on these posts are startling! Are all of you PERFECT??? Jesus said, "judge not, lest ye be judged". To condemn Senator Obama for what his pastor said is really beyond the pale. Senator Obama has never shown the type of anger and hatefulness that Wright showed in that tape. His little girls look joyful and happy, not full of hatred. His wife is a very intelligent lady. By the way, what she said, was: "For the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country." She did not say she had never been proud. After the last 16 years and when we get President Obama, I imagine I, too, will be saying "I am REALLY proud of my country"

You guys need to get off the Wright case and move on. Let me ask you this, if your father or/and your mother are drug addicts, does that make YOU a drug addict?? You must be a drug addict because you live in the same house! If your husband commits a crime, does that make YOU a criminal? You must be a criminal, you've lived with him! If your adult son is a pedaphile, does that make HIS FAMILY pedaphiles? You must be pedaphiles, because you are related to him! If you go out and muder someone, does that make YOUR FAMILY murderers? It must make your family murderers, you share the same home! This is the same kind of equation you are applying to Senator Obama and it is WRONG. I think all of you sitting proudly on your high pedestals of condemnation need to take a good and close look at yourselves and examine your "senses of self-perfection" Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! How would YOU like to get a barrage of ugly and daily criticism for something someone close to you said or did?? You are NOT responsible for their actions.

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 20, 2008 2:38:51 AM

Mike Huckabee gets it. Joe Scarborough still doesn't.

Thank you, Reverend. You deserved that Colbert Bump after all.

Posted by: Chris | Mar 20, 2008 2:25:42 AM

One reason why he may be out of the country is:

sedition - an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government

Posted by: American Independent | Mar 20, 2008 2:24:09 AM

W.C.Messenger:

Why did Barack Obama give Rev. Jeremiah Wright a position in his campaign? His position was on the African American Religious Leadership Committee. Have you ever heard of such a committee? Was it a paid position? I don't know. It seems rather odd to me, knowing that Wright is an extremist and such a contraversial figure that he would ever have been given this position at all. I wonder if he ever did one thing when he was on this committee. And why is he now out of the country? Sorry, for all the questions.

Posted by: Casey | Mar 20, 2008 2:19:35 AM

becki, you say that wright said 3 horrendous things in 30 years. you need to do more research - understated by a mile. he has been preaching hatred for decades. even oprah left his church because of the extremism.

you also say that it's somehow understandable that obama fell for this crap because he was vulnerable because his dad abandoned him or whatever. neither you nor i have a psych degree, clearly. however, psychobabble excuses notwithstanding, we do NOT want a president who is vulnerable to influence because of his personal issues. we cannot and will not entrust our safety, security, and well-being to someone who still needs to work out his childhood issues. also, we do not elect presidents based on assumed guilt, moral equivalence, or any of the other nonsense inherent in obama's "message."

Posted by: so saddened | Mar 20, 2008 2:17:00 AM

It's understandable that Huckabee defends Barack and Rev. Wright. They all have one thing in common: HATE!

Huckabee's solution to high-crime in Philadelphia---give everybody guns!

Huckabee hates gays.

Enough said!

Posted by: Varig | Mar 20, 2008 2:15:40 AM

American Independent -- I think we're on the same page. I don't think the superdelegates have an obligation to vote the will of the people. That's why we have pledged delegates (although technically, those can change too). Superdelegates have a tough job, but ultimately, their responsibility is to put their party in the White House. I think electability is the greatest attribute at this point since the candidates are about even on the issues. Both have their baggage at this point, so maybe it does come down to the lesser of two evils (from the perspective of the Republican attack machine).

Later y'all.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 2:08:51 AM

WCM-Just kidding. I don't drink at all. Gotta go back to work. On night shift. Talk to you all tomorrow, perhaps.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 20, 2008 2:07:54 AM

LOM-Thanks friend, Have a good night.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 20, 2008 2:05:34 AM

LOM:

Ok let's flip it the other way. Assume we had say 70% turnout. This reduces the "weight" of a superdelegate in terms of the number of voters they represent. This means the voters will carries a heavier weight because they voted. Does it reduce the power superdelegates wield at the convention? Not really but there are valid reasons I think.

If the turnout is low (causing a problem), the superdelegates represent the party and the apathetic voters. They need to ensure no one demographic can elect a nominee that would cause another demographic to suffer significantly.

In another scenario, let's say the June 10 date has passed. If a presumptive nominee all of a sudden cannot continue the race due to illness, family obligations, injury, or even a case of legal woes, the superdelegates might have to nominate someone else that the voters do not have an opportunity to vote for.

If the turnout is high but the voters are split, the superdelegates should consider the needs of the party to nominate the most electable since that is what the goal of the party is to win the election.

In this case, it may turn out that the presumptive nominee is not the most electable and they will need to decide. As Bill Clinton stated, most of the superdelegates are leaders who accepted that responsibility to make tough decisions for the party if needed.

What issue matters most to you?

Posted by: American Independent | Mar 20, 2008 2:03:03 AM

I shall leave all of you Clinton supporters with the good news of the day. Clinton was up in the polls today with a statistically significant lead. Polls generally don't mean a lot unless you read the fine print.

At a first glance, the various polls listed on real clear politics makes it looks like Obama is beating Clinton hands down. But the margin of error for each poll tells a very different story: they were statistically tied in every poll but the one where she was actually ahead.

Gallup Tracking | Obama: 39.2% - 44.8%, Clinton: 46.2% - 51.8%

Rasmussen Tracking | Obama: 43.7% - 50.3%, Clinton: 38.7% - 45.3%

CBS News | Obama: 35.8% - 42.2%, Clinton: 33.8% - 40.2%

CNN | Obama: 47.4% - 56.6%, Clinton: 40.4% - 49.6%

USA Today/Gallup | Obama: 44.7% - 53.3%, Clinton: 37.7% - 46.3%

Reuters/Zogby | Obama: 42.7% - 51.3%, Clinton: 39.7% - 48.3%

In simpler terms -- if the percent ranges for each candidate overlap at all for a given poll, then there is not sufficient evidence to conclude there is a significant difference, aka they are tied.

Have a good night and sweet dreams of a Clinton victory.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 2:02:40 AM

Gee, the hatred, the bigotry, the false accusations on these posts are startling! Are all of you PERFECT??? Jesus said, "judge not, lest ye be judged". To condemn Senator Obama for what his pastor said is really beyond the pale. Senator Obama has never shown the type of anger and hatefulness that Wright showed in that tape. His little girls look joyful and happy, not full of hatred. His wife is a very intelligent lady. By the way, what she said, was: "For the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country." She did not say she had never been proud. After the last 16 years and when we get President Obama, I imagine I, too, will be saying "I am REALLY proud of my country"

You guys need to get off the Wright case and move on. Let me ask you this, if your father or/and your mother are drug addicts, does that make YOU a drug addict?? If your husband commits a crime, does that make YOU a criminal? If your adult son is a pedaphile, does that make HIS FAMILY pedaphiles? If you go out and muder someone, does that make YOUR FAMILY murderers? This is the same kind of equation you are applying to Senator Obama and it is WRONG. I think all of you sitting high on your high pedestals of condemnation need to take a good and close look at yourselves and examine your "senses of self-perfection" Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! How would YOU like to get a barrage of ugly and daily criticism for something someone close to you said or did??

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 20, 2008 1:59:43 AM

GABONE


Thank you.

Posted by: QUESTIONER | Mar 20, 2008 1:56:16 AM

Dear friends,
I was born in Africa,I ran away from war.I went to Russia.I thought I was safe in Russia.I met racism.I found,People getting bitten up in the street.Mafian were all over the country.I had to run away.I came to the gratest country in the World
"The United State of America", Thinking i am freedom. I thought I am safe, secured and free as a bird.My dear friends,i found no where is safe. America has all Wars, we tried to escape.America has a war, a war inside the country. people don't need to use mashettes, to kill each other, but they have mouth and words are so sharp.For example Obama's case pastor,Republicans or conservatives radio talk show are showing openly their racism,over exadulating even stories not necessary to hear.Dear friends just stick on the points what people will benefit from, Not trush. people like rush Ramborgh,S. Hanity and other radio talk shows they are bad for the country.I hear deviceveness among radio talk show.There is good to offer to their listeners.I believe these, are dividing country,are deviding people beliefs in talking nonses. Journalists, talk what people want to hear.Please rember this is the greatest Nation and This is the greatest Country, it is the fatherst of the nations.The all World are paying attention for everything you say and doing.I love this country with my all heart.Please don't break my heart.

Posted by: Gabone | Mar 20, 2008 1:53:20 AM

...and they weren't "nukes".

Posted by: QUESTIONER | Mar 20, 2008 1:52:04 AM

I have no clue American Independent. The system was undoubtedly spawn by democratic elites who have far more intelligence than the rest of us fools. All I have come to understand is that pledged and unpledged each count for 1 vote in the nominating process. There is a magic number that has to be attained by a candidate. It is all about the delegate count (pledged and unpledged) and that is it.

I'm sure it is flawed on so many levels, but those are the rules.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 1:45:45 AM

Many of the readers here seem to be pretty confident about what is and what is not patriotic. They are quick to characterize Rev. Wright's remarks as "facist, un-American and hateful".

A reader mentioned in his post the "Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment". I suggest that all of you go find about it before talking about "hatefulness". Sadly, the post had disappeared soon afterwards. Even the few minutes of its existence was worth it!

About 9/11 and terrorism: Go read! There is a long pre-history that most of you seem totally unaware of.

To be patriotic REQUIRES that you know what you are talking about. Ignorance is not patriotism. It is myopia. Rev. Wright may be partially or totally wrong in half of the things he said, but he is MUCH much more cultivated and knowledgeable and kind-hearted and patriotic that most of the people that accuse him.

As for Senator Obama's bid to the presidency, as someone else put it before me, it will most likely not succeed, as we are not yet ready for it. The "patriot" G. W. Bush was what we deserved, and we got it!

Posted by: St.O | Mar 20, 2008 1:42:16 AM

I'm so tired of hearing about race. How is this going to fix our economy? How is this going to get us out of Iraq? How is this going to solve our mortgage crisis? How is this going to give my children a better chance in their futures? It's not.

I do not want race crammed down my throat anymore. My white "father" met my already pregnant, single Thai mother while based in Thailand during the Vietnam War. He embraced me as his own, had another child with her and then my mother abandoned us when I was two. My father remarried to a white woman who brought two blonde-haired, blue-eyed boys into the family. When I was a teenager, they adopted a drug-exposed black baby boy. We grew up in a small rural town where our family WAS the diversity. I married a Jew and have mixed-race children. Who cares?!

The only point I have here is that I don't need a politician telling me about how we need to overcome race. I need a politician who can tell me how we are going to get out of this mess we currently live in? All of these 'scandals' aside, people need to vote based on which candidate exhibits the best attributes that are important to each of us individually. For some it may be judgment, others it may be experience and others, something else entirely. The people will make their choice.

For G-d's sake, can we move on to something new? How about the issues?

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 1:40:00 AM


So you were really, really impressed with Mike Huckabee. Mike Huckabee's 15 minutes are over, he's operating on borrowed time. I'm sure he is impressing his fellow Republicans with his thoughtful intellect, his willingness to help the Democrats, and his blindness to the damage caused by Reverend Wright's hate speak.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 20, 2008 1:34:53 AM

WCM:

Most of tonight's discussion has been justifiably sent to oblivion, so you missed my clever rejoinder earlier. What's with the CAPS? Subliminal message?

Dogsoldier, if you're ever in Chicago, let me buy you a beer.

Posted by: Tungsten | Mar 20, 2008 1:33:27 AM

LOM:

It seems to me the DNC is allotting Alaska too many delegates!

But in the case of the super delegates, take a hypothetical case where the voter turnout in most states is low and the voters that turnout vote for a candidate by a large majority but not enough to win. Assume this candidate is pushing a single issue that will benefit only urban areas and it would cripple the buying power of citizens in rural areas. Would the superdelegates each represent a greater number of voters at the convention? If so who is responsible for that? Wouldnt it be the apathetic electorate?

Posted by: American Independent | Mar 20, 2008 1:31:20 AM

Superdelegates
Please rush to endorse Senator Obama now that Mike Huckabee has decided that he is OK, by all means. Then be prepared to face Reverend Wright clips in your campaigns, with a voiceover talking about how you endorsed Obama once it became known that he had been supporting Reverend Wright who would like to see "God D--- America"! At the same time, please note that ABC News report today which identified the inconsistencies between Obama's big speech and his statements about Wright over the past year.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 20, 2008 1:30:13 AM

NinaK-Perhaps you may have misunderstood my post. I'm not going to worry about which one of us "races" had the worse time. My post is designed to go beyond race and point a way toward the future for a better America. That future I believe is education. There is no other way to achieve the American dream whatever your race.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 20, 2008 1:26:45 AM

Yep, he was not forthright about his pastor and spun this like a typical politician. He made a great speech, not as a Thought Leader, but to do damage control.

Good, we now have an even playing field. Let's get back to the issues.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 1:26:01 AM

huckabee has some "interesting" views, to say the least, like those on evolution and the constitution. nevertheless, he is entitled to his opinion on obama. we are also entitled to ours.

obama voluntarily associated with a hate speech spewing "spiritual adviser" for 20 years. he contributed 2000 a month, he had this person baptize his children and marry him, he consulted with this person about all of his political decisions (his own words), and there is no way he did not know the truth about this person's hate speech. when caught, he denies, then admits a little knowledge, then a little more, only as he gets caught in the lies. finally, he sees that we are onto his lies. he must change the subject to save his campaign. so he gives a very pretty speech. it has lots of pretty words, but that's it. the chris matthews types, as he knew they would, proclaim it the best thing in 40 years, etc. he thinks we now believe that the whole thing wasn't about his support of and praise for a hate speech mongerer but really about the state of race relations in the country. he thinks he has sold us the lie that he is the one to solve our problems. he is wrong. he is part of the problem, a big part. as just one small example, he has exposed his own children to this hate speech, perpetuating the problem he claims is representative of a past view. he is ensuring that it does not stay in the past. he is trying to benefit from the past struggles of other people (not him - he grew up in indonesia and hawaii in privileged surroundings). he is trying to make us think it is racist if we don't vote for him. he is trying to make us think he is doing us a big favor by solving our race problem. we are not supposed to notice the fact that he has done NOTHING to that end, not even to the extent oprah did in leaving that church due to its extremism. we do notice.

he lied about his involvement. he lied about his knowledge. then he gave a pretty speech with lots of pretty words and we're supposed to forget. we don't.

Posted by: so saddened | Mar 20, 2008 1:22:33 AM

A new poll today showed Clinton with a statistically significant lead over Obama: 49% to 42%.

Will this be a trend?

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 1:21:42 AM

Dogsholdier posted: "NinaK-Whether Native Americans have had a bad time is NOT my point. All races who came to this country had a hard time. For instance, we killed whites because they tried and succeeded in taking our land. Asians were interred. Latinos are almost referred to as criminals. Blacks were once slaves. It's not easy being an Arab in America either. My point is this is all a part of the American experience. That's what makes us different from any other part of the globe. Perhaps and despite of our separate experiences in this land we do our best to make this land the best on earth. Swearing and cursing America down in a church or claiming the white man invented HIV to kill the black man does nothing to help build the better America we need. What happens if all other races start doing the same? Our peoples surely can. But we are not going that route. My parents even forced me to get my education because they told me the white man does many things well and the best of the white man is his education. That is how I pulled myself up and I believe that is the secret for all other races to get their chance at living the American dream. Cursing will not help, education will!"
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What I read in your previous posting was that Wright had a better house, a better car, in general that he had a good life, while you did not have the same. Did I misinterpret what you were saying? And all I was pointing out, is that African Americans had it really bad back then. I was NOT and I am NOT condoning Wright's terrible words,it was definitely wrong for him to say such horrific things. You are absolutely right, cursing never accomplishes anything except create anger and disruption, and make matters worse.

Guess you missed my sincere and heartfelt feelings which I based on my interpretation of your first posting. Guess it is not good to be kind. Oh well.

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 20, 2008 1:19:56 AM

I was startled and much impressed by Huckabee's thoughtfulness.

Posted by: Creamy Goodness | Mar 20, 2008 1:15:08 AM

Hillary stood by her husband and daughter; Obama's standing by his minister who spouts hate and sprouts
horns with every sermon he preaches.... and not because he's black!

There is quite a difference here.

Be careful what you wish for;

Obama is a man who lives beyond his means with the help of friends like Rezko, whom he grants the freedom to freeze his poor constituents who are housed in Rezko's tenements during Illinois' frigid winters, who has accepted an earmark of $1,000,000 to a Chicago Hospital at which Michelle happened to work.....

Yes, the Blacks have had it hard. and the Catholics have had it hard. and the Jews have had it hard.

And what about the Japanese during World War II who had their land taken away and were contained in "camps" for the duration of the war?

And what about our Native sons and daughters?

We are not a perfect people!

But we cannot vote for a leader whose
mentor is an anti-American bigot!

And he is; Wright is no better than a white man spouting the same disgusting, scary rants!

Wright is wrong!
And so is Obama!


GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!!!

Posted by: QUESTIONER | Mar 20, 2008 1:12:05 AM

Every screamed foul when Gore lost in 2000 saying the electoral college was flawed. 8 years later, the same format still exists.

I'm not buying the whole super delegates counting as more people argument. If that were the case, then be angry at Alaska. There were 405 votes there where 16 delegates were awarded. Each 1 delegate represents only 25 people. If the convention were held today, each 1 of those ~800 delegates would represent 35,700 votes (based on the votes cast to date).

Which seems more fair now?

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 1:09:46 AM

"yes I agree with "2009" because he always presents facts....."

Noooo, you agree with him because he shares your opinion.

Posted by: Robert | Mar 20, 2008 1:06:19 AM

if you are so sure Obama got this won ,why worry about ...let everybody vote...

Posted by: christel | Mar 20, 2008 1:06:11 AM

All politicians play the political image game. None are perfectly clean and face it - all are human (at least at this point in our history).

Democrats only have two choices. Both candidates have about the same record and platform. Both would bring change and the question is which one we decide will bring the right change. One has stronger credentials than the other. The one with weaker credentials ran on a platform of judgment.

Perhaps we should be doing the simple thing and compare them with a scorecard of negatives for every issue, for every gaffe, and for the traits we believe each should have. Then we can truly choose the lesser of the evils. LOL

Posted by: American Independent | Mar 20, 2008 1:05:43 AM

NinaK-Whether Native Americans have had a bad time is NOT my point. All races who came to this country had a hard time. For instance, we killed whites because they tried and succeeded in taking our land. Asians were interred. Latinos are almost referred to as criminals. Blacks were once slaves. It's not easy being an Arab in America either. My point is this is all a part of the American experience. That's what makes us different from any other part of the globe. Perhaps and despite of our separate experiences in this land we do our best to make this land the best on earth. Swearing and cursing America down in a church or claiming the white man invented HIV to kill the black man does nothing to help build the better America we need. What happens if all other races start doing the same? Our peoples surely can. But we are not going that route. My parents even forced me to get my education because they told me the white man does many things well and the best of the white man is his education. That is how I pulled myself up and I believe that is the secret for all other races to get their chance at living the American dream. Cursing will not help, education will!

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 20, 2008 1:04:38 AM

yes I agree with "2009" because he always presents facts.....

Posted by: MattOhio | Mar 20, 2008 1:03:55 AM

So you're saying your opinion is MORE valid then the majorty of the AMerican populace?

You are a facist.

Posted by: robert | Mar 20, 2008 1:00:52 AM

Why elect the candidate with less popular support?

Because people were defrauded into believing that this imposter/liar was the real deal, when in fact it seems he was more Deal A Meal, then real. His judgement, as you would expect from someone in over their head and outclassed at every turn, is abismal to say the least. If he can't pick better friends he sure as hell can't manage his enemies.

People were taken in while speeches written by Jon Favreau and not Barack Obama. They were taken in with clever phrases from Deval Patrick and not Barack Obama. They just loved his non-fiction book that has more fiction in it than James Frey's A Million Tiny Pieces. His dates are wrong, his Presidents are wrong, his civil rights marches are off by 4 years, his father's social status is wrong, his Ethics Bills authorship is wrong, his Professorship is a lie, his Constitutional Lawyer position is a lie, and on and on and on and on.

People want their 'money' back. But this guy is like a carnival - packs up and runs off in the night.

Just wait and see what the NEXT round of truth is going to do for this Uniter, Not Divider.

Posted by: 2009 | Mar 20, 2008 12:58:08 AM

Bravo Huckabee!!! We need to abolish partyism and bring you back on board!!! America needs a man of your integrity, heart, and wisdom.

You know, we're all spinning around in this madness and I just want to say thank you for that wee bit o' clarity from the "other side". Thank you, thank you.

Posted by: primarywatcher | Mar 20, 2008 12:57:39 AM

So, why should we ONCE AGAIN elect the candidate with less popular support?

POPULAR.

Do Super delegate also count as more people?? They sure are "super" then...

Its a flawed system, and you know it.

Let the people decide.

Posted by: Robert | Mar 20, 2008 12:56:49 AM

I think Ferraro thanked God that the Clinton's dug up that stuff on Rev. Wright just in the nik of time to get her out of the hot seat with her ludicrous statements.
To say that black people have it easy is insane.

Posted by: Becki | Mar 20, 2008 12:56:47 AM

Abraham Lincoln had very little experience in office before being elected President.

He didn't belong to any church at all.

Relatively unknown before the campaign, he came to national attention after a series of remarkable speeches.

One of his major themes was that "a house divided against itself cannot stand." He worked tirelessly and reached across partisan divides to unite former Whigs, Know-Nothings, and disaffected Democrats into a new party (the Republicans).

He defeated the early front-runner for the nomination.

A lot of people so viscerally despised and mistrusted him that they threatened to secede from the Union if he was elected. They particularly disliked his take on race issues.

The more things change . . .


Posted by: J. Myers | Mar 20, 2008 12:55:04 AM

Goodness, are we back on the math thing again? I love the argument that she can't catch up because that is simply not true. She can catch up. There are two types of delegates in the contest: pledged and unpledged. And when they are ALL added up, whomever has 2,025 will win the nomination. You're right, that was simple math.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 12:53:31 AM

Such love and courage is truly hard to find in anyone, and a politician for that mattter.

The statements Rev. Wright said were mean and deeply insulting, yet instead of taking the moral high road, MH chooses the road less traveled, and defends a man who might even hate or resent him. Mike Huckabee is a great and remarkable person we can all be proud of.

Posted by: JD | Mar 20, 2008 12:51:38 AM

Becki -- Do you feel like Ferraro got a reamed by the Obama campaign and the press over her 1 statement then?

Posted by: LOM | Mar 20, 2008 12:50:01 AM

Incidentally, lest we have folks again trying to distort the truth:

In fact, "Barack" is the Swahili derivative of the Arabic word (Baraka) meaning "blessing."

That means it is an Arabic name, Africanized into Barack, with a C. Not an African name turned into Arabic.

Second of all we are attempting to start a petition for all those out there that now desperately regret their decision to vote for this fraud who lies more by the day (now its going to be Rev. Meeks Week).

The 'I Want A Refund On My Barack Obama Vote' Petition will be coming to a computer near you.

No, you may not be able to negate your well-intended, but obviously misguided vote for someone who's judgment is equal to or less than an icecube on vacation in blast furnace, but you may be able to make a difference anyway.

Coward Dean and Pansy Pelosi might just realize they have screwed it all up terribly. If they receive a petition that has 10's of thousands of names on it, or more, they would have to see that now that the truth is flying fast, and it isn't pretty, and it's not going to be getting any prettier (can you say Rezko turns States Evidence After Trial?), they may just have to figure out a way to fix the mess they have created.

So, if you deeply regret your vote for Obama, now that you know what kind of change he wants to bring, keep your eyes open for further details.

Posted by: 2009 | Mar 20, 2008 12:48:20 AM

My point, and I feel like it's pointless because if you don't like Obama, you just don't. But the FAct of the matter is that out of 30 year of preaching, Rev.Wright said 3 horrendous things. I don't think anyone can say they've never said anything horrendous. Furthermore, we don't know all of the other sermons that rev. Wright gave, not that I'm defending him, but maybe Obama went there because all of the other times that are not being shown on T.V, rev. Wright was great at the pulpit. Or maybe he was drawn to his point of view as a black man that Barack honestly never experienced because he did not grow up with the Black experience at all, let's face it, barack grew up white! I think he maybe needed that Identity considering his black father abandoned him, so even though may have been black on the outside, he knew nothing else of being a black man. I think he was vulnerable to Rev. Wright on that point alone. Yes, it's may have been smart of him to go somewhere else, but I know from being around black people sometimes, what rev. Wright said in the black community is not a big deal, nor does it make them hateful. I don't think Barack could have thought in a millions years from him being bi-racial and his upbringing with white people only, someone could ever think of HIM as racist. So that's probably why it went over his head. But, at the end of the day, a white woman pushed Barack out into this world, and raised him to be the man he is. So it is what it is.
Obama 08!

Posted by: Becki | Mar 20, 2008 12:46:56 AM

Robert...Polls - Obama dropping

Posted by: christel | Mar 20, 2008 12:45:40 AM

Obama publicly acknowledged in his 2006 memoir, “The Audacity of Hope,” that he once harbored doubts about his initial anti-war posture. After watching the famous statue of Saddam Hussein being pulled down by jubilant Iraqis and seeing President Bush declare the end of major combat operations aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, “I began to suspect that I might have been wrong,” Obama says in the book.

Make up your mind you buffoon.

Posted by: MattOhio | Mar 19, 2008 10:56:32 PM

This truly is a ‘poor judgment’ issue. It saddens me to see Obama be less than honest with the American people. Obama’s historical speech is now defined by ‘how you throw grandmother under the bus’. Apparently he will say anything to win and, yesterday it was sad to watch him trying to use ‘race’ to get back in this ‘race’. I’m disappointed to see him as just another typical politician. Race should not have anything to do with who he is---or who we are. Not all whites are the same; not all blacks are the same; not all Hispanics are the same; not all Native Americans are the same; not all Asians are the same; not all Women are the same; not all Men are the same; and so forth. We are all ‘human beings’ from various walks of life. We are all God’s children. Obama used very poor judgment with all his ties to underhanded people (Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright, among others). He lied to ALL Americans when the truth would have been better. For months, he asked us to trust his judgment---that’s really hard to do now. God Bless America! Hillary '08.

Posted by: proudamerican2008 | Mar 19, 2008 10:55:17 PM

Right on, Huck! While I don't agree with your political leanings, I admire greatly your courage to speak out on this issue as a fellow American and a fellow human being. What you said is the truth, and thus transcends political party. You have shown yourself to be an honorable man. God bless you, sir!

Posted by: w_roos | Mar 19, 2008 10:51:44 PM

Talk about a misleading storey title.

HUCKABEE: I mean, those were outrageous statements, and nobody can defend the content of them

Posted by: KDH55 | Mar 19, 2008 10:47:18 PM

Huckaberry made a deal with Obama for Speach lessons. Huck did you sell your soul?

Posted by: jacjmack | Mar 19, 2008 10:41:05 PM

Dogsoldier: I agree with you. You should be able to state your viewpoint here. I read your post and can understand your frustrations.

Posted by: Casey | Mar 19, 2008 10:39:41 PM

Let's put Jemeriah Wrong's hateful speech aside for a minute. Let's ask Sr. Obama what makes him stated that he was the one to do the healing NOW or in the future and why not within the last twenty years. The issue here is Sr. Obama has been sitting on the fence and playing safe within his own church for 20 some years or he might have tried to CHANGE the hateful culture of his church but he has failed. Either way, it shows that he is playing politics with racial issues.

Posted by: mtr2311 | Mar 19, 2008 10:35:57 PM

Dogsoilder : It is frustrating at times I know I always feel that I have to watch my words, they allow just a little but not to much so you can never really express what you feel.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 19, 2008 10:31:34 PM

I do feel sorry for his grandmother, Obama did not have to say this lady made racist statements that made him cringe.

How could she be a racist when she took him in and cared for him, if she was a racist am sure she would of never accepted him.

Leaves one to wonder why he felt he needed to do that to his grandmother but on the other hand felt obligated to shield Wright from the public glare, to me that was strange.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 19, 2008 10:27:29 PM

Sorry, Mike Huckabee,

Your excuses just don't get it done.

Most of my ancestors in this country came from Germany in the late 1800's. Once here, they proudly refered to themselves as American citizens.

World War I and World War II found the United States at war with their country of birth, where many of their relatives still lived.

Because of their ethnic heritage and the language they spoke, these Americans were often the victims of ridicule, slurs, and discrimination.

Most of these Americans spoke, worshiped, and sang in their native tongue, German. The same language was spoken in their homes and among friends, as was their right.

When the world wars broke out, these Americans were asked to discontinue speaking German as an act of patriotism and loyalty to their country. They did not hesitate and complied.

And, there were other instances of ethnic bias, hatred, invasion of privacy, and denial of civil rights directed towards these people.

But, these Americans didn't feel the injustices they suffered outweighed the privilege of living in America. In fact, many of them (including my great grandfather, uncles, and cousins) served in the military fighting against Germany and Hitler.

These Americans certainly didn't use the ethnic bias and discrimination they encountered to justify cursing God from the pulpit, cursing America from the pulpit, or cursing other races and cultures from the pulpit.

Had they heard the likes of a Jeremiah Wright in the pulpit, they would have tried to have him removed and replaced. If that failed, they would have quietly stood up, walked out, and never associated with such a person or church again.

As loyal and patriotic Americans, these people quietly and patiently continued to work and build their homes and futures in their country.

No, Mike Huckabee, as a former Baptist minister you should know better than to try to justify the hate, treason, and racism of Jeremiah Wright by referring to his past. While Jesus would forgive, he would never condone or justify such sinful behavior.

There is no excuse for the actions of Jeremiah Wright, and there is no excuse for a man like Barak Obama to embrace him and voluntarily remain in his influence.

As such, no matter who you support, there is no reason to ever support Barak Obama.

Posted by: Ken | Mar 19, 2008 10:26:24 PM

A native american cannot even speak his frustrations here without being removed, yet Wright can have swear words here. This is wrong! Wrong!

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 19, 2008 10:22:18 PM

Barack Obama gave what could be deemed as an eloquent and courageous speech the other day on race and racial politics in reaction to the controversy over the comments by his spiritual advisor and pastor of twenty years Reverend Jerimah Wright. When you get beyond the words and method of the speech, however, questions still remain.

In his speech Obama stated that he could not denounce or disavow his pastor anymore than he could distance himself from his white grandmother who he says made comments that he found to be divisive or derogatory.

While I will admit to not knowing Barack Obama’s grandmother I would suspect that she has never stated words that rise to the level of blaming America for 9/11, that this is the US of KKK-America, that we should not say God Bless America but God Damn America, and that the US helped South Africa put Nelson Mandela in jail which are all things that Barack Obama’s pastor, who he has called his spiritual advisor and baptized his children, has all said.

I would also remind Barack Obama that you cannot choose your family (which his grandmother is) but you can choose which church you go to and what language you expose your children to. Barack Obama chose the church in Chicago where a pastor has blamed white people for all that is wrong with this country, who traveled to Libya to meet with the leaders of that country, and who honored Reverend Farrakhan.

Moreover, Barack Obama throughout his denials of the last week has stated repeatedly that he had never heard any of the controversial statements of this pastor and that when the campaign had started he only heard about a couple of the statements and then only heard about the rest in the past few days. In his speech he stated that he WAS there for some of these remarks, without stating specifically which ones, and claimed that he was bothered by some of these statements although he also stated he never talked to Pastor Wright about these. So was Barack Obama lying earlier when he stated he did not hear about these statements or is he lying now when he said he did? Also, if Barack Obama could not stand up to his Pastor when he spoke the way he did about this country, its government, and the majority of the people in it how can we expect Barack Obama to stand up to the people who are blocking ending the Iraq war, who are not for universal health care, and to those who wish to do harm to this country and their allies.

Regardless of a speech by Barack Obama that most say was done well this is not about speeches and words but about integrity and judgment and on both of these tests Barack Obama has failed.

Posted by: Eric | Mar 19, 2008 10:21:25 PM

The racist nature of the posts on this blog only reinforce my deep sense of our need to openly move toward healing this country. Thank you Senator Obama and Governor Huckabee for your heartfelt candor.

Posted by: Katie | Mar 19, 2008 10:20:24 PM

Not only the Democrat party is being torn this country is now being split right down the middle along racial lines.

This is the most disgusting election I have ever witnessed, Obama and his associate are pushing this country back into the dark ages, all because of this nonsense that its time to have a AA president, and some people are hell bent on destroying this country to make that happen.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 19, 2008 10:18:51 PM

oh I get it. Huckabee is a loser unable to give up his 15 minutes of fame. whether going on SNL or refusing to concede when he lost. Word is he is a closet liberal. and he is proving that. He is a nut job and talked himself out of the VP consideration. Anyone who sides with Wright is anti-American GOP or Democrat. Obama and Huckabee can form a club sandwich since you have two pieces of toast.

Posted by: geevill | Mar 19, 2008 10:13:13 PM

The only way Mike Huckabee, a pro life , patriotic , republican minister himself, can possible defend this idiot pastor and Obama is to make sure Mc Cain can run against him. I wonder what rush limbaugh says about Huckabee now????

Whats next, Israel endorsing Pastor Wright and his racist , anti american, anti Jewish rants?

Posted by: tomdavie | Mar 19, 2008 10:11:24 PM

Right, you wrote: "...until they saw his (Rev. Dr. Wright's) effect on others..." Actually I believe it was when they saw the potential effect on Sen. Obama's campaign.

Truth, you wrote: "Obama has demonstrated that he is indeed the Candidate who is qualified to lead the country. At the time of Crisis, strong men and women step in to heal the wound."

I beg to differ. The Democratic Party is being torn apart by this nomination process. If Sen. Obama was the man you say he is, he would offer to accept the current results of the Michigan and Florida primaries with the delegates being selected on that basis. To tell you the truth, I don't know if that is actually possible. Some pundits have expressed that it is not. But Sen. Obama should make the offer none the less. Besides according to at least two sources, doing so would not necessarily mean he would lose the lead that he has. The 55 uncommitted delegates from Michigan would likely go his way, since they were a protest vote against Sen. Clinton. And Sen. Obama would get about 72 of the Florida delegates. But even if he did lose the lead (at least for the moment), think of the example this would set. And that might even cause the superdelegates to reward Sen. Obama for ending the crisis by supporting him.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 19, 2008 10:08:52 PM

I love Huckabbee! He says whats best and good for the Country, he doesn't try and instill hate, to make political points. He's honest. God Bless Mike.

Posted by: Carl | Mar 19, 2008 9:58:14 PM

The thing that sticks out in my mind one day after Obama's speech is Obama throwing his grandmother under the bus instead of Wright. Here's this lady who loved him and cared for him and Obama equated what she said in PRIVATE to what Wright said in PUBLIC. That's wrong in my book.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 19, 2008 9:58:12 PM

BKMC

So Obama and Wright make the racial wound.... and now to magically heal our wound we should make Obama President so Wright can show his Hump Dance in church and then heal race-problems.....Does anyone believe BKMC????? anyone???? What a load of bull!!!!!

Posted by: MattOhio | Mar 19, 2008 9:54:45 PM

geevil et al said:

"Huckabee is just mad because McCain told him he won't be VP. Thank GOD this nut didn't get the nomination."

Maybe he will be Obama's VP? LOL

Posted by: marie | Mar 19, 2008 9:54:00 PM

Obama no longer can say that he doesn't know about Wright being a hate-monger and racist, yet he still continues to associate himself with the man. Actions speak louder than words, and this to me proves that Obama agrees with Wright's extremist views, no matter what he said in his Kool-Aid speech yesterday.

Posted by: Mac | Mar 19, 2008 9:53:34 PM

You know, its not important that everyone start taking potshots at the ones on the other side of political divides. Its not Huckabee's job to do that, nor does it help in the healing. I can understand the anti-white sentiment given Rev. Wright's likely experiences, but its the treasonous talk that I truly find reprehensible. Huckabee is right-to a degree. I would like to think Wright is much showman, and less a bigot than he comes off. But the talk about GD america, if it comes out that obama was around for any of that kind of rhetoric, I am going to seriously question either Obama's judgement-or his patriotism. He can't have heard that and not been completely disgusted.

Posted by: axistogrind | Mar 19, 2008 9:50:49 PM

How can Gov. Huckabee defend Barack Obama's 20 YEAR relationship with a racist, anti-American, hate monger. Rev. Wright is preaching division among the races not unity. And if Barack Obama can sit through these sermons for 20 years and support this man than he is not fit to be president. Barack Obama didn't have the courage to walk out the church door and find a new, progressive message being taught somewhere else. His whole campaign was based on change. What change? Did your pastor preach change? Did he not just recently make anti-American comments? And you knew it. And you lied aboaut it. And yet you appoint him to your campaign? Does that seem reasonable? And you claim you can unite this country. Senator Obama, your pastor is about as devisive as one can get and so is your church. And you will not distance yourself from either. You don't even know the difference between your pastor's remarks and those made by Geraldine Ferraro and your very own grandmother?
You don't need someone to defend you, you need to drop out of this race.

Posted by: Casey | Mar 19, 2008 9:48:48 PM

And Geevil, you call yourself a political whiz??????? You are a piece of art. Cant you for once appreciate a man who stood by his ideals during an election? He is definitely not like Obama but is still out defending Obama. You dont get the point.... do you?


Geevil said
"Huckabee is just mad because McCain told him he won't be VP. Thank GOD this nut didn't get the nomination."

Posted by: MattOhio | Mar 19, 2008 9:45:31 PM

How does one "transcend" race in this church? The fact is that Barack Obama has fellow-traveled with a hate-filled, anti-American black nationalism all his adult life, failing to stand and challenge an ideology that would have no place for his own mother. And what portent of presidential judgment is it to have exposed his two daughters for their entire lives to what is, at the very least, a subtext of anti-white vitriol?

What could he have been thinking? Of course he wasn't thinking. He was driven by insecurity, by a need to "be black" despite his biracial background. And so fellow-traveling with a little race hatred seemed a small price to pay for a more secure racial identity. And anyway, wasn't this hatred more rhetorical than real?

But now the floodlight of a presidential campaign has trained on this usually hidden corner of contemporary black life: a mindless indulgence in a rhetorical anti-Americanism as a way of bonding and of asserting one's blackness. Yet Jeremiah Wright, splashed across America's television screens, has shown us that there is no real difference between rhetorical hatred and real hatred.

Be that as it may. This is not a man who we should dare make president in peace time, let alone in wartime!

Posted by: Patty | Mar 19, 2008 9:45:25 PM

Future of the GOP? This loser is finished.

Posted by: chasseu | Mar 19, 2008 9:44:43 PM

Huckabee is just mad because McCain told him he won't be VP. Thank GOD this nut didn't get the nomination.

Posted by: geevill | Mar 19, 2008 9:40:13 PM

Mike Huckabee, once again made me so proud to be a Hucabee supporter. Intelliegence, compassion, courage to say what is right. This is a man we sorely need to lead our country. He can take us up to a better place, whether we are democrat or republican. You may not agree with all his issues, but he is a good strong consistent leader who has the best interest of Americans at heart.

Posted by: Linda Rayborn | Mar 19, 2008 9:29:52 PM

That he stayed at Trinity United suggests he and his wife felt they were morally comfortable in that pew.
We must conclude that until they saw his effect on others, they didn’t see anything wrong with the church or with Wright.


Posted by: right | Mar 19, 2008 9:27:08 PM

It seems that despite Obama asking Rev. Wright to tone down his remarks, he didn't. It was in January, 2008 that Wright stood in front of the church and made those overtly sexual gestures that even the media won't replay - they are so offensive. How many children were in the church that morning? Anyway, back to Obama, he says he asked him to tone it down and he didn't. How effective can Obama be as President if he can't even get his close friend to "clean up" his language?

Posted by: nana m. | Mar 19, 2008 9:25:53 PM

Obama has willingly identified himself with Wright’s vision for 20 years. Wright married the Obamas and baptized their two children.

Obama condemned a few of Wright’s “outed” remarks, but did not express remorse for his poor judgment or truly distance himself from Wright.

Posted by: job | Mar 19, 2008 9:23:25 PM

Mike Huckabee is a great man and honest. The rep party is behind all the trouble and division in this country.but he was brave enough to go to the right side of the world, The Truth. god bless you Mike.

Posted by: Truth | Mar 19, 2008 9:21:49 PM

How did Huckabee feel about Obama throwing his elderly grandmother under the bus?

Posted by: nana m. | Mar 19, 2008 9:20:53 PM

No one should go around Screaming God Damn America. In church or any where.

No US Senator should Sit in a church preaching it, teaching it, and passing that on to the youth.

It is Called Patriotism, Love of country and loyalty and honor. If he can't stand up For America in church, then how can we believe he will stand up for America anywhere or anytime.

God Bless America

Only Country I have allegiance to!

Posted by: seah | Mar 19, 2008 9:20:49 PM

Glad Obama was able to deliver the speech to alleviate some tension in the US. We do need division. Enough is Enough. We cannot hold accountable an entire race for one thing one person did or a micro Community did. Obama has demonstrated that he is indeed the Candidate who is qualified to lead the country. at the time of Crisis, strong men and women step in to heal the wound. Obama did it. Who the cap fit, let them wear it. God bless America.God bless America.God bless America.God bless America.God bless America.God bless America.

Posted by: Truth | Mar 19, 2008 9:15:11 PM

Huckabee says, "If this were October I think it would have a dramatic impact. But it's not October it's March." And if this was November of '07 and this information was acknowledged and publicized Obama wouldn't even be in this race.

The super delegates may need to overlook the math in this contest and exercise their BEST judgement...for the PEOPLE. My hope is that the super delegates look beyond the medias (generally speaking) six month, and counting, campaign for Obama and focus on the issues and who really is most prepared to lead the country.

Posted by: catherine in nm | Mar 19, 2008 9:13:46 PM


Wow....

I like the way that Scarborough guy was trying to back him in a corner, and Huckabee kept bringing him right back to the issue at hand.

Pretty impressive.

Posted by: Blogarama | Mar 19, 2008 9:13:29 PM

Yet another example of why I wish Huckabee had his own talk show.

Posted by: Tom J | Mar 19, 2008 9:08:19 PM

The GOP can stop drooling over the Wright tapes. Thank, Huck. Would love to see Limbaugh explode when hearing about your comments. Haha, this is exactly the kind of thing that makes him go through the roof.

Posted by: Greta | Mar 19, 2008 9:03:48 PM

NBPPand OBama on fox now

Posted by: Bishop | Mar 19, 2008 9:01:55 PM

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