 But of course he does GuidingLight | 04/01/08 |
  *CLEARLY* Tinkie | 04/02/08 |
 His philanthrophy is a very good thing GuidingLight | 04/02/08 |
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Please tell me... Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08 |
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Well, that is easy John Zern | 04/02/08 |
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Left out? Diazamet | 04/03/08 |
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"classify Microsoft Office as "non-open" document standard" Ole Man | 04/03/08 |
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Apples and oranges. Philanthropy <> good code jlafitte | 04/03/08 |
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Non-GM food a problem? fr0thy2 | 04/03/08 |
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All very good points he is making. A sad day, but, not sure we have heard DonnieBoy | 04/01/08 |
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There is enough room at the table for everyone. osreinstall | 04/01/08 |
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Not about OSS v Microsoft SwashbucklingCowboy | 04/01/08 |
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Standards don't mean anything. osreinstall | 04/01/08 |
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But, funny that 90% of the people use MS Office, but, ODF sailed through DonnieBoy | 04/01/08 |
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After 100s of millions, dirty tricks and lobbying, ... ShadeTree | 04/02/08 |
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Gotta play the game nucrash | 04/02/08 |
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Aside from the usual Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/02/08 |
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Er, weren't you watching... A.Sinic | 04/02/08 |
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You mean those votes were MS's competition. osreinstall | 04/02/08 |
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all the little guys collaborate to try to make the standard non-proprietary stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Sounds like a R&D cartel. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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sure live in your fantasy stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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As opposed to your fantasy. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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The table is getting smaller cpuobsessed | 04/01/08 |
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Only because folks don't try to compete. osreinstall | 04/01/08 |
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a serious question... Monkey_MCSE | 04/01/08 |
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The standard is to hamstring MS. osreinstall | 04/02/08 |
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I think that you couldn't be more wrong. daengbo | 04/02/08 |
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No, I think you are. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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Very well defined and articulated! Ole Man | 04/03/08 |
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Yeah sure old man osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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osreinstall I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Stevey, I know exactly what is going down. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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since there is a free Office2007 to ODF output and input filter stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Why should they. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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If you don't like it DON'T BUY IT. jlafitte | 04/03/08 |
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Big brother? Nope simple corruption stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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You do not have to have multiple standards for everybody to fit at the DonnieBoy | 04/01/08 |
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You want everyone to eat brocolli. osreinstall | 04/02/08 |
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Good luck getting your M3.45756849 screw for your microsoft car stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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No Problem. Consult a parte manual. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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m5 bolt timing chain tensioner in Porsche 911 stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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They use standard bolts on all cars. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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How so? jlafitte | 04/03/08 |
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"Enough room for everyone...", said the cannibal. Zogg | 04/02/08 |
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You need table manners and pass the salt. osreinstall | 04/02/08 |
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so ODF isn't a standard in MA. Er actually it is. stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Good thing it isn't the only choice. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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sure formats with proprietary lockin give choice stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Still babbling about bolts. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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No offense, but you are pretty ignorant Stuka | 04/02/08 |
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So are you buddy. osreinstall | 04/02/08 |
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like TCP/IP hurt the internet huh? stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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IE didn't hurt the internet either. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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the judge's Findings of Fact said microsoft's actions had slowed innovation stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Just because a judge said so... jamesrayg | 04/03/08 |
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That judge was dismissed for bias. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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So IE doesn't break normal standard pages then? zkiwi | 04/03/08 |
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Not any I came accross. osreinstall | 04/03/08 |
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I don't dine with crooks peter_erskine@... | 04/02/08 |
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You must have when you went to pot luck. osreinstall | 04/02/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win zkiwi | 04/01/08 |
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I would refuse roaming | 04/01/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win applebypd | 04/02/08 |
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well if you've seen MSDN... stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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I agree with Mark 100% LittleGuy | 04/02/08 |
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Strange, I'm exactly the opposite... Guy Smiley | 04/02/08 |
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Well, at least we agree that ISO relevance is gone. NT LittleGuy | 04/02/08 |
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Why? zkiwi | 04/02/08 |
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Because... Guy Smiley | 04/03/08 |
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There's a diference... zkiwi | 04/03/08 |
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Standards are for simplified interaction and competition fr0thy2 | 04/03/08 |
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well this just shows your ignorance stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Yeah, fancy ratifying a standard that isn't owned by Microsoft fr0thy2 | 04/03/08 |
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And it begins BFD | 04/02/08 |
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I wouldn't call it whining.. Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08 |
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I guess you think the single vendor bidding process for Blackwater was good stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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ISO have been compromised Linux Geek | 04/02/08 |
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Open Source "lobbying" = "whining" No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08 |
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The difference here.. Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08 |
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Sorry Monkey A.Sinic | 04/02/08 |
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fact still remains Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08 |
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Not for Desktop Publishing daengbo | 04/02/08 |
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Your ranting simply doesn't matter. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08 |
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You keep calling it choice... Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08 |
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Why do you whine so much? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08 |
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100 million users say you're wrong. stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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You mean PDF don't you? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08 |
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If "lobbying" = "whining"... Sysadm1n | 04/02/08 |
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He gets so many things wrong easson | 04/02/08 |
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still waiting for the proof.. Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08 |
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ALL DOCUMENTED IN DETAIL Ole Man | 04/02/08 |
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Exactly, this standard is like the microsoft titanic, and holes are holes stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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So... zkiwi | 04/02/08 |
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Not only wrong, but only tells one side of it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08 |
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Damn those dirty FLOSS bastards!1! Sysadm1n | 04/02/08 |
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we all know No_facts can't provide proof Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08 |
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This is the same ODF that microsoft sat and still sits on the committee for stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Unaddressed is functionally equivalent to unanswered daengbo | 04/02/08 |
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Unaddressed! Riiiiiiiight......... Ole Man | 04/03/08 |
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no, they weren't answered. They were ignored stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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This from a guy whose company is eatign the POSIX dogfood hornerea | 04/02/08 |
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ah just compete Boot_Agnostic | 04/02/08 |
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AMEN! Give usrs a CHOICE No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08 |
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exactly why OOXML will never be used outside msoffice stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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No one? Yo mean like IBM, Sun and Google No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08 |
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Who you gonna call? tonymcs@... | 04/02/08 |
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Who you gonna call? IBM!!! Sysadm1n | 04/02/08 |
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IBM? Oh yeah, they did say they were going to use No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08 |
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Lotus Notes and Lotus Symphony... Sysadm1n | 04/04/08 |
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A fine declaration Ole Man | 04/03/08 |
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Well at least one thing came about from it all.. Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08 |
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100 million users for Openoffice, 20% of the market stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Well Said Mark Shuttleworth! peter_erskine@... | 04/02/08 |
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My sentiments, exactly! Ole Man | 04/03/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win sudheer.s@... | 04/03/08 |
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Status Quo Gerald Quaglia | 04/03/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win troutmaskreplica | 04/03/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win malevolentjelly | 04/03/08 |
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and ignore completely the corruption stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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Shouldn't Microsoft be the ones developing plugins? peter_erskine@... | 04/03/08 |
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Novell is going to implement this standard Ole Man | 04/03/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win jlafitte | 04/03/08 |
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you think corruption is humane? stevey_d | 04/03/08 |
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win anonymuos | 04/03/08 |
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When you care enough *NEW* Ole Man | 04/06/08 |
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