The Question of Hillary Clinton's Guilt-By-Association Tactics

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For several weeks, the Clinton campaign has been distributing literature and disseminating incendiary notions -- which figured significantly in Pennsylvania, and are now central to the candidate's message in Indiana and North Carolina -- assailing Barack Obama for his association with Bill Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground, the radical, violent organization responsible for bombing several government buildings in the early 1970s.

In their debate in Philadelphia, after moderator George Stephanoplous had raised the question of Obama's relationship with Ayers, Hillary Clinton elaborated on the subject, seeking to add to its significance:

SEN. CLINTON: ...I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position. And if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York, and I would hope to every American, because they were published on 9/11 and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more. And what they did was set bombs and in some instances people died. So it is -- you know, I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about.

Whether this is 21st century McCarthyism--as argued by several important commentators not publicly allied with Obama -- among them Stanley Fish in the New York Times (who has written several admiring columns about her candidacy) and Rick Hertzberg of the New Yorker -- is a matter readers will have to decide.

Whatever name it is called, Hillary Clinton, perhaps better than any contemporary political figure of our time, knows the insidious nature of this kind of guilt by association, for she (like Bill Clinton) has been a victim of it herself over a political lifetime.

Precisely because she knows the destructive power of such assertions and how unfair they can be, she has sought for a quarter-century to hide and minimize her own activities, associations, student fascination, and personal history with the radical Left. Those associations -- logical, explicable, and (her acolytes have always maintained) even character-building in the context of the times -- are far more extensive than any radical past that has come to be known about Barack Obama.

Which raises the question: Is the Clinton campaign's emphasis on the Ayers-Obama connection significantly different or less spurious than the familiar (McCarthyite?) smears against Hillary, particularly those promulgated and disseminated by the forces she labeled "the vast right-wing conspiracy" in the 1990s?

Like Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton has (at least so far as this reporter and biographer has been able to determine) consistently rejected the ideological rigidity of the radical Left and -- especially -- the notion of revolutionary violence as a means of political change in contemporary America, despite claims to the contrary by the VRWC. Like Obama -- and John McCain for that matter -- she has valued her friendships with individuals who figured in the Left-wing and anti-war movements of the 60s and Vietnam era. And like Obama and McCain, she has never wavered from her belief and faith in establishment politics, within the two-party system.

But her past associations -- and her evasions about them -- may tell us much about the formation of Hillary Clinton, both as a product of her youthful time -- the sixties and seventies, when radical student movements and the anti-war movement were a hugely potent force on campus and in American politics generally -- and as a presidential candidate. The facts are fairly simple:

In the 60s, as an undergraduate at Wellesley, she exhibited an academic fascination with the Left and radicalism; rejected more extreme forms of political protest and violence as a student leader (there is no evidence I know that Obama has ever done anything but the same); wrote her senior thesis on the radical Chicago community-organizer Saul Alinsky (whose best-known philosophical mantra was, "Whatever works to get power to the people, use it."); and then, during the 1992 presidential campaign and White House years, insured that the thesis was locked up in the Wellesley archives and unavailable to reporters.

At Yale law school she embraced some leftist causes she perhaps wishes she hadn't today (the Black Panthers' claim that they couldn't get a fair trial, more about which later); worked in the most important radical law firm of the day -- Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, in Oakland, which represented the Communist Party and defended the Panthers in their murder trials; and became associate editor of an alternative law review at Yale which ran stories and pictures depicting policemen as pigs and murderers.

In her 2003 "memoir," Living History, Hillary mentions not a word about her role in the Panther trial in New Haven--during which she directed Yale law students monitoring the proceedings for evidence of government misconduct in its prosecution of the Panthers accused of murder. "It meant going in and out of the Black Panther headquarters to obtain documentation and other information," a classmate told Donnie Radcliff of the Washington Post, quoted in Hillary Rodham Clinton: A First Lady For Our Time. "Hillary's job was to organize shifts for her classmates and make certain no proceeding went unmonitored...[for] civil rights abuses..."

As for her summer at the law firm, Hillary's one-sentence mention of it in Living History gives the impression that Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein might as well been handling postal rate increases, rather than defending the Panthers, members of the communist party, and accepting cases that mainstream lawfirms were afraid to take -- particularly civil liberties cases -- in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. "I told Bill about my summer plans to clerk at Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, a small law firm in Oakland California, and he soon said he would like to go to California with me."

That is the total verbiage expended on so formative an experience, and the lasting -- but distant friendship -- she maintained for the next twenty-some years with Bob Treuhaft and his wife, the muckraking journalist (and, like her husband) former communist party member Jessica Mitford.

"The reason she came to us," Treuhaft told me [the quotation is in my biography of Hillary Clinton, A Woman In Charge] "the only reason I could think of, because none of us knew her, was because we were a so-called "Movement law firm at the time. There was no reason except politics for a girl from Yale" to intern at the firm. "She certainly... was in sympathy with all the Left causes, and there was a sharp dividing line at the time. We still weren't very far out of the McCarthy era."

And might not still be, to judge from the 2008 presidential campaign.

In the 1980s, Jessica Mitford visited the Clintons at the governor's mansion in Little Rock. She and Treuhaft had left the communist party in 1958, years after the revelation of Stalin's murderous crimes, but -- Jessica Mitford wrote in her memoir, A Fine Old Conflict, she quit "not primarily over some issue of high principle, but because it had become dull....boring. Rather like London's debutante circuit."

When Jessica Mitford died in 1996, Hillary Clinton wrote Bob Treuhaft a lovely condolence letter from the White House, characteristically filled with the kind of heart-felt personal touches that the senator's friends have always remarked upon.

Which, of course, no more raises the question "Is Hillary Clinton a Stalinist?," or a communist sympathizer, than "Is Barack Obama a Weatherman?" or a weatherman sympathizer, because of his association with Bill Ayers.

Aside from the candidate herself, her prime-most abettor in pushing the Bill Ayers-Weatherman-Obama line is, inevitably, Sidney Blumenthal, who has also been distributing many other questionable allegations about Obama he has plucked from and disseminated to, at times, of all places--organs of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

As in the Clinton White House, where he was the archivist of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy's plots, Blumenthal is no independent operator. He maintains an ongoing personal and strategic dialogue with his patrons, Hillary and Bill Clinton.

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One of Hillary Clinton's most winning attributes -- and Bill Clinton's too -- has always been their understanding of the complexity of American politics, and the danger of ideological demagoguery (witness their fight against the "vast right-wing conspiracy" and excesses). The resort by Hillary and her campaign to guilt-by-association--of which the Bill Ayers allegations are but one example: see Louis Farrakhan, or a comparatively-obscure African-American writer and perhaps -- communist party member named Frank Marshal Dixon, whom Obama knew in high school in Hawaii -- is, even for some of her most steadfast advocates, particularly dismaying. Like Gov. Bill Richardson and Senator Christopher Dodd, among others who have abandoned the Clintons, many old Clinton hands had hoped, judging from Hillary's triumphant and collegial senate years, that she -- and Bill -- had left behind such tactics when the Clinton Presidency ended in 2001 and the Right-wing threat to the Clintons' tenure in the White House had abated.

"The sad irony," noted Jonathan Alter in Newsweek, "is that these are the same [guilt-by-association] attacks used against her husband in the elections of the 1990s. The GOP tried to destroy Bill Clinton for his relationships (much closer than Obama's tangential connections) with Arkansas crooks, sleazy fund-raisers and unsavory women. But 'The Man From Hope,' while seen as less honest than Bush or Bob Dole, bet that issues and uplift were more important to voters than his character. He won...."

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"Shame on you, Barack Obama," said Hillary Clinton in Ohio, asserting that the Obama campaign had misrepresented her health-care plan.

Shame indeed.

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Carl Bernstein is, most recently, the author of A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton, published in paperback in 2008 by Vintage, and a CNN political analyst.

 
 

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The rag radio/MSM phenomena took off after 9/11. It really is getting old, no matter how spicy the ladies look. But what will replace it? Why can't I just get the Discovery channel, the Weather channel and the History channel? Hope Obama can fix this problem. Why must I buy the whole cow when all I want is a sirloin or two?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/06/2008

Has no one else thought that this is a positive for Billary, i.. helping see the Panthers get a fair trial? I guess I"m too leftie for America.

Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 05/06/2008

It is a positive for me as well. Unfortunately, it's more than negated by her hypocrisy in using these abominable smear tactics against Obama. Unconscionable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 05/06/2008

Her answer to the question by Bill O'Reilly of, What do you think about Rev. Wright ?
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"Well, I'm going to leave it to up voters to decide."

She's going to leave it to voters to decide what she thinks about Rev. Wright?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ISWUXT9V6g

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/06/2008

Hillary does not want to talk about the war.

It is her Achilles heel and she knows it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 05/06/2008

she didn't want to listen to the experts when it came to her war vote. she wouldn't even read one page of it because it didn't give her the political cover she needed to run for president later on (08).

and now.. she won't listen to the experts about this stupid gas tax holiday... because?

THAT is Hilary R. Clinton

it will never ever be about you... the american... the voter. it will always always be about her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 05/06/2008

What is that... a racoon on Carl's head?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/06/2008

I have ongoing HOPE that Hillary Clinton will concede this Primary process SOON. After pandering to poor Americans with meager pennies per gallon, Hillary seems to have no one but the Clintons interests in mind. Do the Clintons assume that Americans are really so gullible that they will put their hopes for economic solutions in the hands of someone who panders relentlessly? Unfortunately they are probably right in their assumptions. We want to believe and we want to hope that the Clinton team that seemed to make all of the right economic moves during eight years in the White House will be able to work their magic again.

Please Indiana and North Carolina...let Obama win today so that the Clinton family can go back to making money for themselves - and leave us alone!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 05/06/2008

We need the Obama TEAM in there.

The wacky Rev, the real estate scammer, the flag stomping terrorist.

At the risk of repeating myself people.

Character is not an issue!

Character doesn't matter to us.

We care about big words. Words like "hope" and "change".

BHO '08!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 05/06/2008


What about Vincent Foster? And she LIED abot that in court. gee, I knew this woman had a lot of dirty BAGGAGES. If she is the nominee, the Republicans will massacre her. How come this took so long to be NEWS????????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 05/06/2008

For the first time I am no longer proud of my country, I am a American ,born American, I have watched on the sidelines while this country was literally given away piece by piece. Now after hundreds of years this country had a chance to set the record straight. In my opinion this country failed to do this. Certain people in this country are bigots and racists. There is no reconciling with these people, there is no communicating with these people, they are who they are RACIST and RACE BAITERS. The first terrorist in this country where WHITES terrorizing BLACKS in the night wearing WHITE BED SHEETS, NOW THERE ARE NO SHEETS, thats the difference .....Rev. Wright was RIGHT! Naw...naw...naw...naw...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 05/06/2008

An anecdote: old friend of mine lives in No. Carolina and we were debating about the merits of the two Dem candidates. I'm all about Obama, but he was on the fence, until Rev. Wright did his loud thing and Clinton fanned that fire. My friend voted by mail the very next day (quick! Before you can change your mind!) for Clinton. He said "I may seem progressive, but in the end I'm just a guy who grew up in Detroit in the 1970s".... meaning that he grew up watching and fearing black activists. That appalled me. Clintons insidious manipulations of latent racism in our country is disgusting and cynical... and worse... IT WORKS. I sent my friend videos of Rev. Wright's brilliant speechifying, but that did nothing to counteract his fear. I said to him "I guess it depends on what scares you most... some rightfully angry black activists or a candidate who says that she'll "obliterate" Iran ... and he made his choice. And all I can think is that he represents the voters who are falling for Clinton's cynical political maneuverings. How depressing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/06/2008

i know how you feel.

i have such a hard time believing we are THIS racist. but.. the proof is playing itself out in this election cycle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 05/06/2008

Whis is this article not doing headlines? This should be posted plain and center on the Huffington Post.This article reinforces my opinion of Clinton-that she will do anything to win the election and that she is the biggest hypocrite of them all and I hate hypocrites! If she becomes the nominee, for the first time in my life I will not vote in the general election as a personal statement against her divisive, fear and smear campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 AM on 05/06/2008

It's time to weigh in on the litany of "if it's taken from Obama, I'll never vote for the Democratic Party again" whining.

First, as a small and considering the swarm of bots (employing the identical language like the Stepford electorate they seem to be) they're up agains, extremely courageous as well as intelligent posts put it: Obama has nothing to "take."

Second, how about this? If the nomination is "taken away" from the first possibility of the eternally and universally maligned and oppressed female gender, I will never vote Democrat again.

Now, how about multiplying my statement by a number equal to the Stepfords? Simply because we're tired of being arm-twisted and smeared by tools?

Guess what, Stepfords, you will have won and completely deserve YOUR McCain, YOUR hundred years in Iraq, YOUR failed economy, YOUR fascist state, and YOUR continued oppression of women as well as blacks and every other minority.

Congratulations!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 05/06/2008

In poll after poll more Hillary supporters say they won't vote for Barack Obama than vice versa. Numbers don't lie, son, just your candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/06/2008

Those polls are about as accurate as the polls that said Hillary was going to win the Black vote circa Dec. '07. They don't take into account the emotions of Black voters. Right now, Blacks say they will vote for Hillary if Barack loses, but if Hillary were to win the nomination without the most delegates, the most popular vote or the most states (even if you counted MI and FL this would still be the case) the Black community will get up in arms like you wouldn't believe.

Meanwhile, white women who make up Hillary's most dedicated base are the main ones who are saying that they wouldn't vote for Barack. But I have three words for them "Roe versus Wade." A vote for McCain has a real possibility of being a vote against Roe v. Wade considering the current makeup of the court. Are we to really believe that these staunchly democratic women will actually pull the lever in favor of the candidate that may end women's reproductive rights out of nothing more than spite that their preferred candidate didn't win? I don't think so. That would really be betraying the sisterhood.

Polls are not real numbers. If Barack Obama is denied the nomination having won every measurable category, the democrats will lose their only real voting base--African Americans. Blacks will probably not vote for McCain, but many will abstain from voting for Hilary. Which means, kiss a Dem win goodbye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/07/2008

I HOPE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

HILARY THE LIAR...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 05/06/2008

I am very much bothered that Clinton is using guilt by association as a tactic, and even more bothered that it seems to actually affect a segment of our population. It doesn't say much for our country that our citizens can't see this for what it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 05/06/2008

Can you imagine if Barack would use that tactic against Hillary?

There is so much material...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/06/2008

Thanks for some thoughtful reportage. It is just unthinkable that we are offered so much and promised so much in an executive (Obama) and could somehow get stuck with a candidate like her, totally lacking in authenticity and conscience. More worthy of a mob boss than a president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 05/05/2008

I am outraged at Bernstein LYING. First, as ANY person on the left at the time knows Charles Garry was the Panthers lawyer. Second, to equate the ENTIRE left as the SAME as the Weathermen is slanderous to us and simply mimics the RIGHT WING liars. The law firm she was with was standard ACLU in character. He also forgets that the CPers were FORMER members of the CP. Ayers is a NOT so former member of the Weathermen and was barred from an educational conference because of his violent views.

I have NO problem with Ayers IF he had said he was wrong and was sorry for his mistakes, but to say on 9/11 that he did NOT do ENOUGH bombings is beyond the limit.. I would be outraged if McCain sat on a board with a NAZI who said that Hitler did not kill enough Jews Hell, I remember it was a scandal if a politician was a member of a country club that had no blacks. Obama's tolerance of such a terrorist is too far for me to consider voting for him. What he should have done is to tell the board that if Ayers stays, I GO. THAT is called principle. Too bad he has none..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 05/05/2008

Ayers said that he regretted "not doing enough" to protest the Vietnam War. The article was published Tuesday, September 11th 2001- but some time before 8:48 a.m. if I am at all familiar with newspaper editing or publishing. The fact that an article about Ayers was in the paper that day was pure coincidence unless the editor of the paper knew that the terrorists would attack America that day. Ayers didn't come out and say "I regret not setting enough bombs" after the terrorist attacked as you purport- check your facts man- are you mad?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/06/2008

Bernstein is an award winning journalist and he even wrote a book on Hillary. He is not lying, you are just trying to cover the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 05/06/2008

Try reading the job she had with the Panthers trial.

"Hillary mentions not a word about her role in the Panther trial in New Haven--during which she directed Yale law students monitoring the proceedings for evidence of government misconduct in its prosecution of the Panthers accused of murder. ...... "Hillary's job was to organize shifts for her classmates and make certain no proceeding went unmonitored...[for] civil rights abuses..."

The article in the NYT was published ON 9/11. A coincidence - unless you think Ayers and NYT had inside info on the attack.

Ayers has repeatedly tried to correct the misquote. He said/meant that he was sorry he didn't do more to stop the war. NOT that he didn't do "more bombings".
Banned from what conference, when?

Bernstein's point is that a lot of people flirted with trying to change the country in different ways at that time. When Barack met them, the couple were years beyond their Weatherman days.

My sister and brother in law were classic hippies. Lived on a coop farm and raised crops, animals and a little weed amongst the corn. They had kids and moved on. 28 years later he is not ready to retire from the 6 figure job that takes him all over the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 05/06/2008

Ayers didn't kill anyone and never planned to kill anyone, so you equating him with Hitler and the Nazis is an insult to all Jews. Why does everyone have to toss Hitler around like he was an average criminal?

Plus, Obama was 8 years old when that happened. Ayers served his time and for 40 years has been a decent member of society.

Lastly, Hillary assisted in wal-mart, communist and black panther trials, supported more gun control laws, NAFTA and don't ask, don't tell. And is a gross panderer and LIAR!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 05/06/2008

I cannot believe this person is so stupid. First Ayers most certainly DID plan to kill LOTS of people. The townhome that was blownup had a bomb that was designed to KILL lots of GIs at Ft.Dix. The weathermen DID kill three guards in the robbery that they did. Ayers did NOT serve a day in jail or even brought to trial since there was so much government misconduct and they could not use the evidence against him. I did not compare him to HItler since I said that if McCain served on a board with A Nazi, NOT Hitler or even a German Nazi, but an American Nazi.
I would hope that you will call Obama a liar since I have heard HIM say he is in favor of universal health care, but if you pin him down and look at his web site he says the opposite. She did not take part in any trials of communists since THERE WERE NONE at that time. I am also outraged that defending clients is seen as somehow endorsing or being part of the defendants parties. THAT is SO RGHT WING it is obscene! GO BACK to the GOP and your Bircher buddies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 05/06/2008

Your comment are typical of the CLinton twisted logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 AM on 05/06/2008

What I really, really don't understand is what HRC is trying to achieve. It's all very well spouting about 'not giving up' and 'you deserve a leader who doesn't quit', but how about a leader who can do basic mathematics.

There isn't a political commentator or pollster who believes that it is possible for HRC to gain the nomination. Not 'it would be difficult, but if anyone can do it, that political pugilist Hillary can'; but simply that it is an electoral impossibility.

So once again, you have to ask why she persists.

There can only be two possibilities. First, she thinks that the Rules & Bylaws Committee (stuffed with HRC groupies) will give her the Florida and Michigan delegates. An interesting prospect to say the least, as that particular move will tear the party into bloody shreds.

The only problem with that scenario is that the party would be in meltdown, a large number of long-time Democratic Party members would flat out leave and her chances of getting Obama supporters to vote for her would be nil. Not a very positive outcome.

The second possibility is that she just wants to fatally wound the only viable alternative to herself. If Obama limps into the general election and McCain takes the presidency, she can point and say 'See, I told you he wasn't electable' (having personally made sure of that with her muck-raking campaign) and she has a free run at the nomination in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 05/05/2008

"How about a leader who can do basic mathematics"?

She is anywhere from 300,000 to 500,000 votes shy of the Dem popular vote. And this without counting Florida and Michigan. And she's now to be tested in strong Hillary country.

You neglect a third "possibility" in which she wins the Dem popular vote at the DNC and loses the delegate vote.

What would you do then? Speaking of "tearing the party to bloody shreds"? Would you repeat the fiasco of 2000 where Gore won the people but Bush was given the presidency on the delegate count?

Well, just guess how Democrats who voted for her will react.

Better still, not only will this undercut your whining over the Bush "putsch," just think what a publicity gift you'll be giving the Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 05/06/2008

If it was possible that she'd win the popular vote, I'd have mentioned it. It's theoretically possible - as is time travel - but I've yet to see any pollster, commentator or political scientist say that it's actually achievable in this funny old thing we call the real world. Or are you tagging along with the Hillary dictum that anyone with an informed or expert opinion who says she's talking horsepoop is an 'elitist'?

It's a nice hypothetical response, but then the hypothetical is all that Hilary has left. You say only '300,000 to 500,000' as though it's a mere trifle, that she's likely to overtake. It's not. You know it. She knows. And you both evade the central question. Why continue a dogfight she can't win, when the only outcome is that she will damage the eventual nominee?

Her only viable back door to the nomination is a decision by the Rules & Bylaws Committee to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates. If she can swing that, she's laughing. But no one else will be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/06/2008

In the past I have displayed some amount of displeasure with Senator Clinton for some of her campaign strategy against Sen. Obama and it is simply because I believe that in a family fight somethings are just taboo. This rule makes it a lot easier to sit around the dinner table at thanksgiving. That said Mr. Bernstein, I take exception to this article simply because you are attacking a family member and because you won't ever be sitting at the table at thanksgiving you owe no duty of care to any member of this family. Therefore I believe that this is the wrong forum for your article. It is not because Obama is not aware of these potentially damaging articles against Sen. Clinton but I believe that like myself, he does not believe in destroying a family member with whom you will have to break bread with sometime in the near future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/05/2008
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As an African American man I feel as I'm being personally attacked everytime I turn on the TV. I used to be excited to watch the new and get more in on the campaign. Now my body just aches. I feel like I'm going to explode. I can't believe how the media is promoting Clinton and her agenda. This is a perfect example of why black people feel so rejected by America. If they take this from Obama, I will never vote democrat again in my life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/05/2008

Either corporate media is promoting Clinton in an attempt to portray a close race and promote high ratings for their coverage or their lobbyists are terrified of a candidate who raises his funds from grass roots Americans and would owe them no allegiance whatsoever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/06/2008

Although racism is an integral part of my life as a black woman in America, this primary has awakened me to a new reality of racism in America that I haven't experienced in forty years. I'm not troubled simply about Senator Obama whom I support, but about the attitudes toward race that have surfaced over the last several months. The MSM has gone to great lengths to stereotype Senator Obama as different from and contrary to the values of mainstream America. He must therefore prove his patriotism, whereas his opponents do not, because the color of their skin alone inherently embues the trust that he is denied. I recognize that many white Americans have legitimate reasons for opposing Obama; but many others, including the MSM, have blatantly rejected him solely because he is black, and it is difficult not to take this personally. However disguised and disingenuous the attacks may be, when he's attacked because of the color of his skin, which is the color of my skin, I'm attacked as well; and when he's rejected because he's black, I too am rejected because I'm also black. If Senator Obama loses the election fairly, which is no longer even possible, I will reluctantly support Senator Clinton. But if it's taken from him and even perceived that it's on the basis of race, not only will I not vote for Hillary, but I too will never vote as a Democrat again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/05/2008

As a WHITE American ,I agree with you 100 percent,I will not EVER vote democrat again IF the nomination is taken from Obama !!If Clinton ends up as the democratic nominee I will either NOT vote and hand the Presidency to McCain on a silver platter ,tarnished by Clinton and the MEDIAS (FOX)BIASED ,Broadcasting of garbage against One candidate while ignoreing the LIES of CLINTON 'BOSNIA' and her deliberate PANDERING to desperate and angry ,bitter AMERICANS ,by promising them a gas tax 'holiday' (McCains idea) when she can't do anything untill NEXT summer !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 05/05/2008

As a hispanic american woman , I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. Obama is my man and God help those who take his hard earned nomination from him. The price the democratic party will pay will be so high, it will destroy it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 AM on 05/06/2008

I'm not African American, I'm just an old American woman who wants a country that makes sense. If they take this away from Obama I will never vote democrat, give money to a democrat or support a democrat at any level of government again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 05/05/2008

ME NEITHER!!! And I'm a box of Jello Democrat. I would vote for a box of jello before I'd vote RePuke. That being said, if you cater to the racist know nothing vote, you're no better than the Republicans. If Dems lose a guy like me, there must be others. They will be finished as a party. And deserve it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 05/06/2008

They cannot take it away from Obama because he doesn't have it. How can you take away something from someone if they don't have it? Your threats won't stop the process. I am an African American and I'm supporting Clinton. I will not support someone just because they are black. If whites did the same thing Obama would not be where he is on this election process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 05/05/2008

No one is asking you to support someone just because they are black. Obama has more delegates, he has won more states and he has more popular votes. If it was John Edwards, or Joe Biden or anyone other than Obama with those kinds of wins, Hillary Clinton would not even be in the race. If Hillary steals this nomination, I will not vote for her -- not because Senator Obama is black not because she is white -- but because I could not look my children or my grandchildren or even myself in the face and ever admit that I voted for someone as deceptive, evil, underhanded, dishonest and inept as Hillary Clinton to lead this country. For the last 8 years I have had to live under a president who I couldn't even stand to listen to. A president who did not care anything about public opinion; a president who lied when it was expedient for him to do so, which was just about everytime he opened his mouth. I cannot vote to go through that again. If it happens, it will happen without my vote. But as it becomes apparent that the MSM and the Clinton machine are hell bent on stealing this nomination and handing the election to McCain, supporters of Obama and hope and change need to begin developing Plan B right now. My suggestion is to wage the first successful Write In campaign in American History.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 05/06/2008

I am puzzled that you do not see that the Republicans and their supporters in the media are doing everything they can to nominate Hillary. They know she is beatable. She has the highest negatives of anyone who has ever run for President. Hillary is in league with the Republicans as are those running her campaign. If it were not for this unholy alliance Obama's nomination would not be in doubt.

That is the "they" in the phrase "if they take this from Obama".

It is not a threat. It is just a recognition of the reality that a victory by Hillary based on this level of corruption within the Democratic Party is beyond redemption.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/05/2008

I am not supporting Obama because he is black. I support him because he represents everything that I believe in. With that being said, he does have it because there is no way Clinton can catch him in elected delegates, and they have said from the start that this race was all about "delegates" The reason why I will never vote democrat if the nomination is "taken' from Obama is a simple matter of self respect, something that I see you have none. African Americans are the democrats "MOST LOYAL" supporters 85%+ and by them stealing the election from Obama is like spitting in our faces and then turning around and taking a dump on us. Obama wants what every American wants, and thats to be treated fairly. He plays by the rules and they change them. What message does that send to a black child. This has become bigger than Obama. This is about respecting the people who support you. I don't care if he loses the general. He has earned the right fair and square. If Obama was a white man or if the shoe was on the other foot (11 straight wins), he would have been "kicked out along time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 05/05/2008

"They cannot take it away from Obama because he doesn't have it."

He has more votes and more delegates. But as a Clinton supporter, I guess you're not really interested in **FACTS**...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 05/05/2008

Here is a fact magic number is 2025 delegates needed to win the nomination. He doesn't have the magic number. She doesn't have it either. You cannot take it away from him, he simply doesn't have it.. and that's a fact, you can take it to the bank and cash it if bounces don't come looking for me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 05/05/2008

I'm a 44 year old white woman. I have read almost everything ever written by Obama and have listened to many of his speeches. I happen to believe that Obama can be the greatest LEADER we've had in my lifetime (and we haven't had any good ones). I will be truly sad and depressed if we let this man go -- especially because of issues of association that have nothing whatsoever to do with the type of President he will be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 05/05/2008

To put the issue in its proper perspective, Hillary is a pandering, pathologigal liar, who happens to suffer from covert racism, just like her husband! Her campaign personifies the perfect example of the maxim,"the ends justify the means".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 05/05/2008

I have said it all along-they probably have read The Prince by Machiavelli and use it as a bible-the ends justify the means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 05/06/2008

Excellent essay. Another reminder why Bernstein is the better half of the early 70's duo of which he was part.

And as for those Hillary trolls who would shoot the messenger: you're pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 05/05/2008

Who is Hillary to point the finger. She is the great dedeiver.
The BIG question...Do we want a person who knows NOTHING about economics to run our nation?
Let us the voters study the congressional records and past history of each of the candidates running for presidential office.
"Beware of Wolve's in Sheeps clothing". Hillary Clinton will tell you what pleases your ego and put her arms around your children...but see what she tried to do more than a decade ago, but was "stopped". Yes, she WILL garnish our paychecks with her Mandatory Healthcare plan. No Freedom of choice.
Just check the 1996 bill submitted to congress by Hillary Clinton and look who saved all America's butts, which includes all our children. Please learn the truth:
http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1998/dec98/psrdec98.html
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/discover-and-imagine-ron-paul/successfully-fought-hillarycare-lite/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 05/05/2008

What has happened to the voters of this country that we are willing to put up with this charactier assassination when the country is falling apart? Hillary and Barack should be talking about the issues, nothing else. I don't care which pastor said what. Most politicians in this country are about as religious as my daughter's cat. It's all a show.

The guy in the White House is "religious". Ain't that a pretty picture? Give it up, folks. Go back to health care, jobs, education, the big issues.

And whether we agree with everything Reverend Wright said or not, it's a free country. Any fool has a right to say anything he wants, and we have the right to think he's a fool, if we don't agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 05/05/2008

Oprah left Rev. White's church, but I have not heard if she gave a reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 05/05/2008

Oprah never belonged to Trinity United Church of Christ. Stedman Graham did. Oprah visited the church about four times with Stedman. Then, when she gave an interview to a national magazine and named Trinity as her church, at a time when Trinity had outgrown its smaller church and was trying to raise funds for a new one, Reverend Wright, who as we all know is outspoken, spoke out from the pulpit and said that Oprah was not a member of Trinity, and if she was, we wouldn't have to worry about a new church because it would be paid for (with her 10% tithes). Oprah was insulted and did not return to Trinity. Also, let me tell you that I was in church at least three of the four times she attended, and when Pastor Wright made his controversial, outspoken remarks, she was standing up clapping along with the rest of the congregation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 05/06/2008

What church does Hillary go to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 05/06/2008

WHO CARES THAT IS THE POINT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/05/2008

Where are her 2007 TAX RETURNS??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/05/2008

Research Rendell also, you'll find a connection there that will suprise you as far as the Clinton's, Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, Anotonio Vilaragosa LA mayor. All connected. All knew and dealth with these character's far more and knew of them intimately as friend's in their little Campaign donation's trouble they have. They knew before Obama knew of them. Fascinating 'projecting their own pathology' isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 05/05/2008

Hillary is acting like an elitist again. She demands fealty from the ignorant members of the party.
1.) She alone deserves the domination.
2.) She broke her promise to not include Mich. And Fla.
3.) She is running a Republican attack machine against Obama.
4.) She represents all that America is trying to get away from.
5.) Hers will be another Imperial Presidency. America must be with her or against her and she will destroy those against her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/05/2008

1. Sen. Clinton never said she was the inevitable candidate -- media did.
2. Sen. Clinton said Michigan and Florida delegates should not be seated, based on the rules at that moment in time. But. Michigan and Florida have a right to petition the DNC to have their delegates seated based on an alternative plan, submitted by them. That is what she now supports. That is not breaking any promise, that is using the rules as the process proceeds.
3. Attack machine? Methinks poliltics is not for you.
4. Is America really trying to get away from a President, who supports the same Platform as Sen. Obama, but who knows it is Congress that passes legislation and not the President? She is the only candidate who has told you that.
5. Let's see. I've heard she's a Communist, a Socialist, and now an Imperialist. Look at her record. And look at who she has worked with. Destoryed those against her? Hardly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 05/05/2008

Just a reminder concerning your second item: The rules are still the same as they were when she said Michigan and Florida should not be seated. What is different? She didn't think she would need those votes. With Obama's grassroots movement that depends on organizing and campaigning (after all, he is the "new" candidate building a new base of supporters), taking the votes as they were cast without any campaigning or any attempts to build a following in those two states - never mind the fact that he wasn't on the ballot in MI and any write-in votes for him would be discounted - certainly redefines fairness as we know it.

The bottom line: FL and MI screwed themselves royally over when they chose to move their primaries up despite clear messages from the DNC on what would happen if they did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/06/2008

"Destoryed those against her? Hardly."

Ever heard of Peter Paul?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 05/05/2008

Please get this into the MSM. This needs to be being played ad nauseum on CNN, FOX, etc. Believe me, it WILL be if the Superdelegates pull the bonehead move of having HRC as our candidate!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/05/2008

Well, you know. . .

My experience in dodging sniper attacks will certainly come in handy when we Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.

- Hillary Rodham Clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/05/2008
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