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Interviews: Pro Wrestling Guerrilla Six interview
Posted by Steven Bryant on Sunday, July 13, 2003 @ 3:00 AM Pacific
PWG
Pro Wrestling Guerilla Six (Super Dragon, Excalibur, Joey Ryan, Disco Machine, Scott Lost, & Topgun Talwar) interview
by Steve

Recently I had a chance to talk with the six wrestlers who are behind the new Pro Wrestling Guerrilla promotion. Super Dragon, Excalibur, Joey Ryan, Scott Lost, Disco Machine, and Topgun Talwar are all pretty well known around the scene as wrestlers, but with PWG they are tackling something completely new to all six. In this interview we discuss their vision, how they handle their differences, their relation to other promotions, and more.

Steve: OK, I'm here with the six partners in SoCal's newest promotion Pro Wrestling Guerilla. Let's start with the basics, what made you guys decide to start your own promotion?

Disco Machine: Here's the deal. Joey and Scott have wanted to start a promotion for a while. Super Dragon has wanted to have a tournament with top indy stars for a while. So they enlisted some friends, Excalibur, Disco and Top Gun, to help out, and here we are.

Excalibur: Much like Disco said, it all started with Joey, Scott, and Dragon, oddly enough they all had their ideas at the same time. So PWG is more or less a combination of their ideas with my stunning good looks and superior wit.

Scott Lost: Well, Joey told me about Super D's idea to start a promotion and asked if I wanted to chip in and help. I said sure, why the hell not, what else am I going do? So I tucked my three kids and wife into bed and started writing skits.

Scott Lost: I really don't have kids or a wife.

Topgun Talwar: I was sitting at my computer one day pondering what to spend my money on aside from Tijuana hookers, so I thought why not throw money into a wrestling promotion.

Joey Ryan: Scott and I were thinking about starting up a fed with some friends of ours to do at the marketplace when no other shows were running, but Super Dragon convinced us to help out with an idea he had to do something bigger. He has some good connections and made the idea of another big indy in California sound possible. So we decided to back him on it and enlisted Disco, Excalibur, and Top Gun to help.

Super Dragon: Basically I talked to Joey months ago about doing my own Super Tournament, with the best indy stars in the circuit right now. I knew it would cost a lot, and I didn't have enough money. I also knew that Joey and Scott wanted to start their own fed awhile back. So time passed after I talked to Joey about running the tournament. Then one day he said that we should start our own fed. At first we were thinking about bringing MPW back. Then we figured if we are going to start something new, we should just do our own thing. That and Jews are the worst, so there is no use in helping them. That's basically how everything started. As far as my reason for starting the fed goes. I really don't like the way a lot of stuff here in SoCal is run. Some of the shows are good, but overall I think a lot of things could be better. Also, there isn't a lot of hype right now on the west coast, so I'm looking to change that.

Steve: With the six of you guys running a promotion together, there is bound to be times when differences of opinions come up. Do you all have equal say in what goes on, or is there a chain of command so to speak?

Disco Machine: Until the first show, we can't say for sure. Being wrestlers and promoters is a tremendous pressure. We have already faced challenges that promoters deal with like cancellations, money allocation and venue searching.

Super Dragon: Clearly I am the smartest person of the six, so I run everything. Everyday I make Scott squeeze me fresh lemonade. Joey gets my coffee. Topgun does my laundry. For the other two, well, they are my team, so we are all equal. Honestly, we're all friends, and we have been in the scene together now for a long time. I don't think there will be a problem. Some people are in charge of certain things. We try to use our strengths to make the promotion the best we can. Some people are good at writing. Some people are good at design. We all know who the best wrestler out of the six is. We all have ideas we give each other, and hopefully there won't be problems in the future. If there is, I will quit, just like Dirk Diggler did. I'm the biggest fuckin' star here man. I know karate. You want to see me kick some ass?

Excalibur: I guess you could call it a chain of command, but it's more like each of us have specific duties for the promotion. If there's a dispute with one person's area, we bring it up to the others and it's settled together.

Steve: You say each have specific duties, are you able to share what those are?

Disco Machine: Disco equals website, graphics and 1/6 of an exciting grudge challenge.

Scott Lost: This is true. We all have our roles. We try to go with what each of us is strong at. For instance, Excalibur and I are the funniest men alive on this planet, so therefore we are doing the skits and antics.

Topgun Talwar: I'm actually the individual that's in charge. That's why they call me Top Gun. Honestly though... we've focused on delegating responsibilities and overall just producing a good product.

Excalibur: Like Scott said, he and I are working on the stuff for the videos, but it's become more of a collaboration with everyone. They other guys will come to us with ideas, and we're in charge of fleshing it out.

Joey Ryan: But in the end, an idea has to be agreed on by all of us.

Steve: Super Dragon, you stated that you want to increase the amount of hype the west coast gets. How do you plan on accomplishing that?

Super Dragon: Well, I think by using the most popular stars in the indy circuit we can definitely accomplish that. I think EPIC was on the right track on getting the west coast noticed, but they made way too many mistakes, and used a lot of people they shouldn't have. We definitely want to get our tapes out as fast as we can. That's the easiest way for everyone to see our product. I don't know why, but nobody in SoCal is making their tapes available. I remember when Rev Pro first came out, we had a lot of hype, because everyone had tapes of us. The key isn't to just use a bunch of the talented guys, but use them right, and put on great shows.I think that will get us noticed. We're trying to put a product out that showcases all styles of wrestling, and hopefully people will want to see that.

Steve: You mentioned EPIC, all of you were involved with EPIC at one point or another. What can you take away from your experiences there that you can use to make PWG better?

Excalibur: Well, unfortunately with EPIC, we all saw some pretty terrible mistakes that we don't intend on making (with PWG.) Money issues, forcing wrestlers down fan's throats, overbooking, you name it, EPIC had it. I think from being heavily involved with EPIC at one point, it made me leery of working with another "super promotion" again due to the fact I saw EPIC's worst part first hand, where things were spinning wildly out of control. I didn't want to see that repeated again, however with PWG, I'm very comfortable with the guys I'm working with, so hopefully that won't be an issue.

Super Dragon: I know everything else in this interview will probably cut on EPIC, but what Gary did nobody else has had the balls to do. Say what you will about Gary, but all he wanted to do was put on good wrestling shows for the fans here in SoCal. He gave up a lot to do it, and I respect him for that. I'm owed just as much money as anyone else who's bitching about it. In fact, I doubt anyone is owed as much as I am. Anyway, I think everyone learned a lot from EPIC. We learned from Gary's mistakes. Gary could have been successful without a couple of the mistakes he made. Just learning from those mistakes will make PWG better.

Scott Lost: I had a very pleasant experience at EPIC, and Gary treated me right from the day I started working for him. The one thing I would say that I know we will do different is keep track of our budget. We're all Indy workers here and can't afford to be threatened by other workers from lack of pay. We all know how it is to get stiffed by someone we work for. Side note, I was paid every time by Gary. Good guy.

Joey Ryan: I think in a lot of ways PWG can be like EPIC without having to go through the rookie mistakes. Obviously we were all there to see what worked and what didn't work for the company. And being wrestlers ourselves, we already have a better idea of who to use and not use that would benefit PWG more.

Disco Machine: EPIC was a blessing and later a huge disappointment. But from it all we actually became closer as a group and learned from the mistakes of others. Gary had a incredible vision for EPIC. And we could have been on top for a long time, but that's how things go. Six months in wrestling these days is like nothing. The scenery changes and there's a new thing going on. We are new, but we are not here to challenge other groups...we are here to showcase the top talent in SoCal, NorCal and Indy wrestling across the US. I would love for us to be considered the ROH of the West Coast. That is our goal.

Scott Lost: We come in peace!

Super Dragon: Fuck that. We come to destroy everyone.

Joey Ryan: Yeah, one way PWG will not be like EPIC, is we don't plan on taking over an area. We've already got tons of support from everyone from Rick Bassman to AWC to Bart Kaptizke. We like to think of SoCal as a family.

Super Dragon: Yeah, SoCal is like a family, and I'm Tony Soprano. You just remember, I'm the mother fucking fucking one who calls the shots.

Steve: You mention the support you've received, has there been anyone who has been less than supportive?

Joey Ryan: Well, I've been hit up about 936,424,863,058 times for comps, and that isn't really supportive! (Laughs). But as far as other promotions go, we haven't had problems. Everybody has been offering help and advice and things of that nature. Even the APW family who seems to want to take over California has been super cool with us.

Steve: You guys are still working for other promotions, while getting things in order with your own, and are obviously friends with a lot of different wrestlers. Have you felt any pressure to book certain wrestlers because of that?

Scott Lost: Uh... Yeah, there's been a little bit of that but not too much.

Excalibur: I think we've all been approached at one point or another, and like everything else, we'll throw that person's name out to the team. For some people, we're on the fence, for other people, like Mike Vega, it's an easy decision not to book them.

Super Dragon: That is the first thing I told everyone who's involved. We're not booking people just because they are friends. This is easiest for me, since I don't like anyone. So yeah, you won't be seeing Mike Vega on our shows anytime soon. You can see him in an outdoor "arena" where the ring is lit up with car headlights though.

Joey Ryan: Every time I get asked to book someone, I tell them they got to ask Dragon, because everybody has to ok the booking, and for some reason nobody likes talking to Super D! (Laughs) gets me right off the hook!

Scott Lost: I'm just in charge of the skits! No booking for me! I'm funny, that's all.

Super Dragon: I'd just like to state something real quick. Scott Lost is the most unfunny person I know.

Topgun Talwar: You obviously haven't seen the Scott Lost shuffle then

Steve: Topgun, of all the wrestlers involved, you are the least "known" and least hyped. Do you feel any pressure being part of this group with so many wrestlers who are big names, at least by indy wrestling standards?

Topgun Talwar: Yes. To be held at the same level of such a high echelon of wrestlers is tough to fathom. However it's done more to motivate me in improving, wrestling more and getting my name out there.

Joey Ryan: Jon, you're already a star in our hearts!

Scott Lost: No, he's not.

Steve: All of you, except Dragon, kept yourselves pretty low on the card, and didn't really put yourselves in spotlight matches. Was that more to show that even though you are the promoters you won't be constantly trying to put yourselves over or that you felt the show would be better showcasing other wrestlers at the top?

Joey Ryan: I don't know what you're talking about, I get to wrestle Adam Pearce! Plus I get to wrestle Hardkore Inc again who are arguably the top team in SoCal right now.

Scott Lost: Yeah, I'm in that match too!!! While we may not be wrestling Outside Talent, we're still wrestling very good guys.

Steve: I didn't mean in terms of talent, as the whole card is pretty talented. I'm referring more to card placement, and the hype being given to the matches.

Disco Machine: I think it's all of our feeling that all of the matches have the potential to steal the show. That makes the booking easy. It's basically putting together matches that people want to see and match ups you thought you'd never see.

Joey Ryan: Oh, well yeah I'm in a 6 man because somebody had to carry Scott Lost and I wasn't going to make FBK do it by himself.

Scott Lost: We put things in order of how they made sense. Joey and I are still trying to make names for ourselves on the Indy circuit, so we're not going to put ourselves in the Main Event... At least not until the 6th or 7th show. (Laughs)

Scott Lost: Wait a minute... Was that a shot at me?

Excalibur: Honestly, we all have different opinions of ourselves and where we should be on the card. Then the others have their own opinions of where we should be on the card, so like everything else, it's a compromise. I don't think anyone has an illusions of who the top draw of the 6 of us is, so needless to say, I'm pretty disappointed with my placement on the card.

Topgun Talwar: I'm going to be working curtain jerkers for the rest of my life. That's all I know.

Scott Lost: And you better like it Mister.

Super Dragon: Originally I was going to wrestle Hook Bomberry, so I wasn't going to be wrestling a big name on the show. Some people cancelled out on us, so we figured we needed a bigger match to please the fans. It also cut the show down to 8 matches instead of 10. So I think it worked out much better for us. I don't care who I wrestle, my goal is to have good matches. I will do what's best for the promotion. I don't care if I am wrestling a big star from the indies, or someone who is very good, but nobody has heard of yet, like Hook Bomberry.

I do think that a lot of people want to see some matches involving me, that they would consider "dream matches". If there was a match that someone else considered that type of match with one of the other guys, we would definitely try to book it. When booking things, you have to wonder if people will think you're trying to get yourself over because you're in charge of things. Like I said before, I am going to do what's best for the promotion. We definitely want to get a lot of the wrestlers who will be wrestling for us noticed. That, and having great shows/matches is my goal for this promotion.

Steve: It also seems like every promotion aside from UPW, and the odd lucha show, draws about the same amount of people. What is PWG going to do to bring in more fans?

Joey Ryan: I guess we'll just have to flyer at UPW and the odd lucha shows. (Laughs).

Scott Lost: We're going to bribe people! (Laughs) No, we're going to flyer the hell out of everywhere to try and get the word out. If we just flyered the other indy shows, the same amount of people are going to show up anyway, because all those people go to all the other shows. I'm talking about flyering, Junior high schools, high schools, crack houses, whore houses, so on and so forth...

Topgun Talwar: Well, I think we have the Internet crowd locked, just based on the quality of our card. I think promoting at the upcoming WWE event will help bring casual fans to the show as well.

Scott Lost: Have I said too much?

Excalibur: Way too much.

Super Dragon: I think our shows will be bigger than all the shows around here that are drawing the same amount of people. All those people are my fans anyway. I put asses in seats. Those aren't the people we need to convince to come to our shows, we need to get WWE fans. The casual wrestling fans. It's hard to do it, but with guys from NWA TNA, and some of the more noticed indy names, it might be possible. We're doing things like flyering events, and some ideas to draw fans that the CIA won't let me talk about. I saw some shit man. Anyway, we will be flyering all the big events, and getting our tapes out to get us noticed. I think a lot to do with drawing in the indies is word of mouth. We know there are wrestling fans out there, because EPIC had 100's of people at their shows, and UPW/XPW have had big houses before. So hopefully with our lineup, the fans will be kind enough to show up. If not, may you all get SARS and die.

Steve: You guys are bringing in M Dogg and AJ Styles, who are two guys who aren't normally in SoCal. Is bringing in outside talent something you plan on doing every show, or is it something only for special occasions?

Joey Ryan: Well, if we keep them coming back, then they aren't really "outside" anymore, right? Honestly though, we do plan on having some guys come back regularly, but we'll always be trying to give SoCal a nice surprise. And not just having a certain somebody on the show, but making sure they have quality matches as well. We feel that is what SoCal really wants.

Super Dragon: I think bringing in outside talent is a key to success. It will bring a lot of the fans that wouldn't normally come to see the locals, which is stupid, because there are a lot of great matches on a lot of the local shows around here. I am all for bringing out outside talent. It will bring people, give people a chance to see wrestlers they wouldn't normally be able to see, and give fans a chance to see matchups they wouldn't normally be able to see.

Steve: What type of plans do you have for the promotion as far as running shows? Do you plan on running monthly and will all the shows be at Frank and Sons?

Joey Ryan: As long as SoCalers keep coming to watch the shows and paying for tickets and videos and such, then we'll be able to afford to run as much as possible. Nobody is really making money here, so every penny spent on PWG will go right back into the next show.

Super Dragon: We're going to be running monthly. Not all shows will be at Frank and Sons. I kind of want to move away from Frank and Sons in the future, because I don't want to take anything away from Rev Pro's draw. We actually have something in the works for 2 days, at different venues in August. We want to run at different venues around SoCal, kind of like EPIC did. It gives us a chance to get different people from different areas to come to our shows.

Steve: You guys have a pretty diverse card as it is already, do you guys have any plans in the future to add even more different types of matches such as pure lucha or deathmatches?

Excalibur: The trouble with adding matches like that, it's tough to draw in fans of that style unless the entire card is like that, or so it would seem. History can teach us many a thing. Like the fact we don't want a whole bunch of idiots or Mexicans at our shows. But we will take their money.

Scott Lost: I like Mexicans.

Super Dragon: I would definitely like to add some lucha guys on future shows. Super Boy and Chilango are a few of the most talented guys in SoCal, and I would love to use them in the future. As far as deathmatches go, I doubt you will see any of that at PWG. You might see someone like Vic Grimes, who can do the brawling or deathmatch style, but can also wrestle. I think that (deathmatches) draws the fans we don't want at our shows. Like those idiots who call themselves Juggalos. Yeah, that Power Ranger chant was cool years ago, you fucks. We want fans who want to come and enjoy a wrestling show. Not some idiots who come to try to be funny and yell out "insider" shit that makes them look cool.

Steve: OK, now I'll ask a non-PWG question for each of you and then we can wrap this thing up.

Steve: Scott, you've been nominated for tag team of the years two straight years, with two separate partners, winning the award with Joey Ryan in 2002. Do you see yourself more as a singles wrestler or a tag team wrestler?

Scott Lost: I can do whatever! I multi-talented! I'd probably consider myself a tag team expert, but singles is just as fun. I'd actually like to get the chance to wrestle more singles to show people I can be just as effective in that division.

Steve: Topgun, you were doing a lot of wrestling in Arizona this past year, how does that scene compare with SoCal?

Topgun Talwar: The scene in Arizona is completely different from SoCal. Like I expected, based on the talent that wrestles there, it is a big man territory. I don't feel the wrestlers are as talented and well rounded because the primary style is American out there. The fans are really good out there because it's primarily casual wrestling fans who are entertained and will pop for practically anything.

Steve: Excalibur, you haven't wrestled in Revolution Pro in about a year, and as most know there's been some heat between you and Rev Pro. Will we ever see Excalibur in Revolution Pro again?

Excalibur: Steve, if question asking ability were related to wealth, you'd be in the fucking poorhouse, my friend. I'd like to come back to Revolution Pro, but due to some things I've said in the past, it appears I'm not wanted there. The only thing that's ever final in wrestling is somebody dying, so short of that, I wouldn't say you'd never see me in Rev Pro again, but the decision isn't up to me.

AWC has spoken to me individually, and made his feelings and intentions clear. I understand Rev Pro is more of a family than it was when I was there, and of course that hurts my chances. But rather than cry about it, I can focus on PWG, and mine & Dragon's quest to have everyone come out to 80's Metal, and knock everyone dead.

Steve: Disco, earlier this year you announced your retirement from pro-wrestling, then you came back just a few months later. What made you decide to change your mind?

Disco Machine: I wish my retirement was an angle. The truth of the matter is that I am currently going through a divorce. The last year has been brutal for me. Wrestling wasn't the source of my personal battles, but it was a common denominator. So my "retirement" was more of a personal thing that I made public.

Should I have made this personal and just fade away? Maybe. But my relationship is over and I have been overwhelmed by the support I have received from all my friends. Most of which I have met through wrestling. I thank everyone for being understanding and I look forward to performing and living out my dreams.

Excalibur: Do those dreams include informing the public of your giant, Mandingo-esque cock, Disco?

Disco Machine: In a word... YES. Look out Lexington Steele.

Excalibur: Mothers, hide your sons and daughters! DISCO IS ON THE PROWL!

Steve: Joey, in some of reviews of your matches, people have said that you are "boring". What are your thoughts on that?

Joey Ryan: Boring?! Who said that?! I'm looking at you Super Dragon! Well as many of you know, I got quite a bit of my training from Spanky, and he always taught me things like; Do you want to have meaning to your matches and to have everything make sense, or do you want to do a bunch of cool looking nonsense? Do you want to make the casual fan and core wrestling audience care about you as a wrestler, or the smart mark pop at your cool spots? He made sure I knew not to treat the fans like idiots, and no sell things, and do things out of place. He said in the long run, you'll gain more respect and credibility if your match can tell a good story. Basically, he was passing down a lot of lessons in ring psychology that he had got from his training. He did warn me that a lot of the indy fans might consider the style boring, but in actuality, the indy fan makes up a small percent of the wrestling audience, and even a smaller percent of them hate technical wrestling. You look at some of the greatest wrestlers of all time, guys like Steamboat, Flair, Hart, Malenko, Benoit, and they have had long careers doing more substance than flash. You watch now and guys like American Dragon are wrestling all over the world based on great psychology over great spots and moves. I hope to one day get good enough to be on that level.

Excalibur: Shut up Joey. I like Spanky as much as the next guy, but I'm sure he's got enough people swinging on his shit now, he doesn't need you. Joey was just fired from PWG, by the way. Twice.

Super Dragon: I would also like to answer this question. I think that in wrestling, you're always going to have people that don't like you. That's why there are different styles for everyone. I think the people who think Joey is boring are just ridiculous. It's like the people who thought my match with Brian XL sucked. Some people just can't handle good wrestling. It's too much for their little brains. They'll never understand it. They're the same people who like the ICP and Metallica. I like to call them idiots, but you can also call them cocksuckers, bitches, assholes, motherfuckers, shitheads, fuckasses, etc. etc. You COULD call them lots of things, but it would never change the way they think. They've definitely had their shit pushed in BIG TIME BRO. Exposed tendons for life!

Steve: Dragon, you wrestled for All Japan earlier this year. Did working there go how you'd hoped it would and overall would you say it was a positive experience?

Super Dragon: Wow, this is the first time I've had to talk about that traumatic experience. It was definitely an experience I'll never forget. I went to Japan imagining something completely different. I was there for nearly two months, and I think it may have been the hardest two months of my life. Training was ridiculously hard. 1,000 squats a day, weight lifting, running, sit-ups, pushups. It was the hardest training I've ever been through. I couldn't do a lot of stuff they expected me to do, due to injuries I have, but I tried my hardest.

That wasn't even the worst thing about it my stay in Japan. The food there was definitely the worst thing for me. I was living off snicker bars and McDonalds (I hadn't eaten there since high school) for 2 months. I have no idea how I lost 15 lbs while I was there. Probably because most of the time I was eating one meal a day. I think I would rather be stuck on a island, eating berries for 2 months. WILSON! I spent most of my time at Internet Cafes, calling my girlfriend, or watching DVDs in my spare time. One of the worst things was, I wasn't riding with the foreigners on their bus. I was with the Japanese on their bus, so trying to communicate with people was almost impossible. I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I had my own people to talk to. Nothing against the Japanese, they were all very kind to me, and tried to help me out as much as possible. I really liked Kashin and Kaz, and they were both awesome to me. It just wasn't the same.

I also got really sick after the first tour, and had to go to a hospital, where this guy stuck a Q-tip in my nose. I broke all his fingers. You just don't do that sort of thing, man. Being at the Dojo the 3 weeks in between tours was actually the hardest part of the 2 months. Everyday there was training, which sometimes was cool, because it passed time. The rest of the time I wouldn't have much to do, so I just went to Internet Cafes. I could have stayed (at the dojo,) and tried to talk to three guys who didn't speak much English, but I think I'd rather go look at porn on the net. I actually walked an hour to the Internet Cafe and an hour back every time I wanted to go. Talking to my friends on the phone and Internet really helped me get through it. So I even walked there when it was snowing one day. I know I'm probably making Japan sound like hell, but I probably would feel differently if I stayed for only two weeks. Two months was just too much.

On the first tour, the first night I wrestled, I had one of the worst matches I've ever had in my whole career. I've had better matches after I've blown out my knee. I think it was a combination of the lights being so hot over the ring, and me being really nervous. I have never got that tired in a match in my life. At one point, it looks like I lay on Jimmy Yang like he's a pillow during a pin. After that, I had some decent matches. I liked working with Red. We had a singles match that I thought was my best match the first tour, but it was only 8 minutes or so. It's so different working there, where the people don't react to things, because they don't know you. I went there thinking the crowds would be really hot for our stuff, after watching Low Ki's Z1 stuff. They really have a different crowd than All Japan does. They got into some of the stuff we did. A lot of the flashy stuff got over, and I've really tried to move away from that style. I think if I went in 1998, I would have been more over there. I was more willing to do crazy things to impress people. I tried to change the way I wrestled a million times over there. I went there thinking I could get certain things over, and when they didn't get over, I just tried to cut them out of my offense and be more flashy. I don't know if that was a mistake or not, because I really want to get the style I wrestle now over. I just felt like people weren't into the stuff I was doing. It could have been that Japanese crowds aren't really rowdy like some American crowds, and they are more respectful, but it was tough doing things without getting a reaction. The first tour, I was really disappointed in my matches. I had a few decent ones, but none of them compare to the stuff I've done in the States.

The second tour was much better for me. I got to work with Elix Skipper, who I liked working with. We had a few good tag matches, and my last match there at Budokahn, which I think was my best on both tours. It's pretty sad, actually, considering every match I've had in the States since coming back has been better. Maybe it was good, I don't know. My standards are pretty high sometimes. I do know I have a scar like Frankenstein on my head from that match. During the match, I busted my head open on the pole, and I have never bled so much. It was in my mask, and I couldn't even see. I think I did a pretty good job finishing the match for not being able to see out of my mask. I got stitches in my head, and Ohtani came in and was like "WHOA! SORRIE CHARRIE!" and ran away, because my brains were exposed. Ohtani has always been one of my favorite wrestlers, and for him to see my brain exposed. It... It brought a tear to my eye. It was a nice way to leave Japan I guess. With a good match, and a scar that won't ever let me forget that pole. I WILL NEVER FORGET!

Like I said, it was an experience I will never forget. I am fortunate enough to have had the chance to go to Japan to wrestle for a company like All Japan. Paul T. really does run shit, cause he got me there, and I will never be able to thank him enough. He's still on railroad duty, but he's a hell of a guy. I'm not sure when, or if I will be going back to Japan. I would love to go for two weeks. Right now I'm more concerned on getting PWG up and running. If I don't go back to All Japan, I would love to work for some other promotions like Michinoku or Z1. Oh yeah, and Japanese people are the weirdest people alive.

Steve: I would like to thank you guys for your time and remind everyone to check out Pro Wrestling Guerrilla's debut show July 26th at Frank and Sons in City of Industry. For more info head to http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com.

Excalibur: Yeah, if you don't come check out our show, you're a king sized flamer.
 
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