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HAVE WE LEARNT A LOT FROM 11 SEPTEMBER'S LESSON..?
TURKI Al-HAMAD
 

In the history of any nation there are historical decisive moments that form a crossroads for them. In these moments the nations will be resuscitated if they comprehend them and perceive their fateful aspect. That will be like resurrection of

a phoenix in the myth or they become mere dead ashes. All this depends on the reaction of these nations on what these moments impose of challenges and questions about their destiny and their existence.

When the world was in the process of change around Athens the city was submerged in its illusions and was asleep on its glories and its distinctiveness of the remaining of the world. It even suffocated those voices shouting in the wilderness, warning Athens from a bad fate in case that it would not comprehend its situation. It killed Socrates, belittle Plato and almost killed Aristotle had he not escaped from its madness. Athens did not grasp the variables and the historical moments around it. It consequently faded into the darkness of forgetfulness. Nothing remained memorable of its past except its concept of democracy and the names of those who were the subject of its repression. Nevertheless, time has immortalized Athens by immortalizing them but engulfed it as well.

This is applicable too on other fading civilizations from Persians, Romans and Muslims to Russians, Chinese and others. All these civilizations received signs and events warning and alerting them but they did not understand these signs or they did not pay attention to them. They thought they were immortal, and there would be nothing better than what it was. Then there was their dissolution between the jaws of the cruel time. This might be the dilemma of mankind and it might be something hidden and difficult to understand its wisdom. It might be this and other reasons, but we are not looking today for the justifications as much as the flaws and causes.

Baghdad fell in the hands of the tartars. That was a sign that the Muslims' civilization started to crumble under the mattocks of time or under the effect of the decay that virtually reached its roots, as a result of its immobility. It was like stagnant waters where mosses grew fast. But no one took notice of that sign or may be of any preceding ones. Yes, Muslims finally defeated the legions of Mongols. But that was a victory more similar to a defeat. It was an anesthetic victory that made eyes incapable of seeing what the Muslims' civilization suffered from its diseases. That was the collapse in spite of the apparent victory. The crusaders were defeated in our land, but they would win after their defeat. Their military defeat was in the end of the day a victory, when Europe woke up of its slumber. It was the renaissance and the end of dark ages. Each nation considers themselves the best at certain time. That might be true at certain moments of the time. But it is impossible to keep that for ever, and if one did not admit that one would be misled. Lucifer was driven away from heaven because he had not accepted this wisdom. He refused and considered himself great and became arrogant. Consequently he became the cursed Satan.

Contrary to that we find other nations and countries which managed to read those alarming signs correctly. That helped them to go back to life although they were very close to distinction. For instance; Germany and Japan after the Second World War, and those societies and nations that completely abandoned their past, and looked forward to the future as an Egyptian proverb says (the living is worth thinking of than the dead). It is not wise that the dead stay the rulers of the living in every case. They would not themselves accept that for themselves if they were capable of talking. A lot of nations and countries were exterminated because they did not know how to read properly; or they read according to impulse. Then they thought they possessed the world without knowing that there would

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Brian Torri, Good article indeed. America faces those same challenges, believe me. I do not envy you your challenges. I wish you well in your efforts to meet them. These articles and others in places like the Daily Star give me cause for hope in our conflict, with although it isn't totally a conflict, has enough friction in it to merit concern. Take care and God bless.
 
S. Lofagus, The lack of intellectualism in the Arab world is disgraceful. This piece of dribble, badly written, syntactically incorrect, full of Arab "metaphors" and delusions, is the product of over 1000 years of the Dark Ages. I think either the Arab world retreats back into oblivion or civilized countries should just put Arabs out of their misery. Notice I say Arabs, not Muslims. Arab imperialist expansionism will be stopped one way or the other. On one item I concur with the author, Arabs live in a fantasy world of illusions. This is thanks to the badly plagiarized Quran which gullible and illiterate sand-dwellers believe to be the immutable word of god and the racist delusions of Arab culture which wants to annihilate the kaffir, the infidel, through jihad and subjugate the globe under sharia.
 
ahlam akram, Has the world become less safe after 11/9? Unfortunately the world is no longer a safe place , 11/9 have confirmed the following facts, No one can afford to live in his own isolated world . We live in an economically interdependent world Political stability is a very important factor in international investment . The power of the media.. Is the world less secure.. Yes it is , Why ?? Because the way the US dealt with the after math of 11/9 .. There is no doublt that it was a big tragedy for the american people yet it could have been the test for the US leadership to this world. As a great power with principals that fascinated the whole world, unfortunately US war against Iraq did not reflect that wisdom and those principals.. it reflects a super power that wants to dominate the world for its own interest thus making Iraq and the whole region a fertile ground to recruit all those who wanted revenge from America. It did not reflect the American principals that stand with the weak. It reflected double standard foreign policy regarding the US involvement in the Arab - Israeli conflict.. Is the threat of international terrorism still there & growing? Yes. yes the threat of international terrorism will be there ..because so long as there are extremists voices creating this horrible gap between the people.. dividing the world into dar al kufr and dar al iman ..there will be no peace.. so long as there is no justice .. there will be no peace.. so long as there is severe poverty in some regions while others wasting money on gambling table .. there will be no peace.. and so long as there is corruption in regimes.. in any part of the world. corruption in ethics and moral values .. so long as there is exploitation in dealings between people to people and states to states . do you think all terrorists are Muslims ? defiantly NOT , but again the whole Moslem world need to go through a soul searching analysis as to, how did we allow extremism to enter into our faith. where did we go wrong , is the west responsible for our failure economically, financially and politically or do we need to acknowledge part of that responsibility. and if so what is the main reason for this failure .. is it in the culture or traditions or both.. what is needed most now is a new peace culture that goes beyond borders and beliefs to guarantee a better and secured world. . Ahlam Akram – Human Rights Campaigner
 
C.Sullivan, This is where my source of frustration is. America has these same responsibilities. If we could only have the tiniest amount of foresight to see this I do not see how Bush can get reelected. We need to be standing WITH the arab world in this same search. We are so like the arab world, more than what separates us. That is the frustration. I know it may not seem like it but this is what I know. We are a proud, alive, dynamic and still trying to hope people. Anyone want to tell me the arab world doesn't have these characteristics? The biggest thing that makes us the same is this. The arab world is trying very hard right now to find out where the truth of who they are and what they want to be is. Anyone want to tell me the American people hasn't been doing this, since forever?
 
What I See, Re Lofagus - you and others of the same ilk keep prattling on about wiping out the Arabs. you don't get it do you? Your patrons support you despite the unjustness of your cause. And you encourage this support because you despise them, in spite of their attempts at cleansing themselves of guilt. Good article, by the way.
 
Mary Blessed, As a Christian, I'm amazed how the darkness has won the light and how Satan and in my opinion, Allah, is winning the war against God. Some of us believe we are chosen people? Sure not Arabs, but Moslems think that they are the chosen people for what they preach that the Sunday and the Saturday people, the infidels, have to be exterminated and Jews (the same people as Jesus Christ), were turn into pigs and Apes. Regardless if it is a Jew, a Christians or a Buddhists, how dare you preach every Friday that others are pigs and apes? Yet, Jews do NOT think that they are the chosen people...and if some preach, at least, in the land of Israel, which was given by God, the father of Jesus, this land belonged, belongs and always will belong to the Jews, they maintain every single sacred places, Christians, Jews and even Moslem...on the contrary, Moslems and their dirty legacy, destroy every single Christian and Jewish place in Arab lands, expulsed and exterminated million of Christians and Jews all over the world, etc. Moslems exterminated millions of Kurds, the so called good moslems and exterminated thousands of Palestinians who rebelled against their dirty Mullahs and Sheiks and rebels against Arafat, the most corrupted, evil and naziizlamic creature on earth, with his mistress Sura Arafat, living with 100,000 dollars per months for “her” expenses, while Palestinians were starving to death. Every day I read about Islam, I understand that a Moslems is a Satanic Puppet and Allah is Satan, himself.
 
NOKLEBERG, PAUL, Bin laden, or whoever the hell you are- Fuck you, you stupid piece of shit! Fuck your suicide-bombing, plane-hijacking, beheading, wife-beating, satanic religion! You motherfuckers are the poorest, stupidest, most backwards losers on the earth. You're too stupid and backwards to know how to fix your countries, so you blame everyone else for your pathetic problems. Let's go down the list: Saudi Arabia- you blame us for our intervention and interaction with the saudi monarchy, which you consider "meddling." First off, if we were truly meddling, why is it that that country is just as poor and dysfunctional as it has ever been? We buy your oil and give you billions of dollars for it; that wealth has a lot of potential to do a lot of good, but your government wastes it on themselves. So, what exactly are we to do? You tell me that if you're so fucking smart. What are the real possibilities? Option 1- we do nothing, nobody buys your oil, and you have no wealth whatsoever. Option 2- we buy it, and pump huge amounts of money into the saudi economy, but your stupid-ass king wastes it on whatever it is he wastes it on and it doesn't find its way into the pockets of the common man. Option 3- the government distributes the wealth to the people. Slight problem there, though. We're not supposed to go in anywhere and replace disfunctional regimes. So, if the saudi government ultimately doesn't decide to share the wealth, you tell me exactly what america is supposed to do. If we didn't do business with them, you'd have no money at all. Palestine- Israel has made repeated attempts at negotiating for peace, only to have yasser arafat piss in their pool every time. So the fucking coward exhorts teenagers to blow up jewish women, children, and babies. That's alright with you? The jews, after suffering centuries of persecution, now want just one strip of land along the mediterranean sea, and you stupid fuckers whine about a "war on islam." Israel attacks terrorist camps, and sometimes innocents are inadvertently killed. The hamas and hezbollah fuckers deliberately target civilians. There's a huge difference. In the 1990's, america fought two wars in the former yugoslavia to prevent genocide against muslims. We won, and saved the lives of muslims who would have otherwise been the victims of that genocide. Likewise in both of our wars in Iraq, where the iraqis now have more opportunities than ever before. You stupid fuckers whine about your "brother and sister muslims," and you do nothing for them except teach them hate and evil and tell them that they have nothing to hope for. That's because you stupid-ass losers can't think of anything better. You coward motherfuckers would have them believe that if the US and Israel disappeared, somehow the poverty and the wifebeating and the evil extremism would be tolerable? Because I'm sure it would go on. The US will win the war on terror, and you stupid fucks will lose. Isreal will survive, and your envisioned second holocaust will never happen. By the way, I know that yasser arafat's personal mentor, the mufti of jerusalem or whatever your stupid fucking arab word is for it, visited the nazi death camps and praised hitler for killing jews, hoping that then they wouldn't come to the middle east. So don't you fucking cowardly pussies ever talk to us about killing innocents. I wonder if you stupid fucks even realize that your fucking koran took the jewish and christian scriptures and adopted them as its own. All of the prophets that you supposedly honor who lived before mohammed were devout jews, so they were jews before they were muslims! Wow, what a concept! And its the same God, the God who told Abraham's descendants through Isaac that "I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you." God has indeed blessed Israel and cursed her enemies. God's promise to rebuild the temple mount will happen. Bye-by
 
NOKLEBERG, PAUL, Bin laden, or whoever the hell you are- Fuck you, you stupid piece of shit! Fuck your suicide-bombing, plane-hijacking, beheading, wife-beating, satanic religion! You motherfuckers are the poorest, stupidest, most backwards losers on the earth. You're too stupid and backwards to know how to fix your countries, so you blame everyone else for your pathetic problems. Let's go down the list: Saudi Arabia- you blame us for our intervention and interaction with the saudi monarchy, which you consider "meddling." First off, if we were truly meddling, why is it that that country is just as poor and dysfunctional as it has ever been? We buy your oil and give you billions of dollars for it; that wealth has a lot of potential to do a lot of good, but your government wastes it on themselves. So, what exactly are we to do? You tell me that if you're so fucking smart. What are the real possibilities? Option 1- we do nothing, nobody buys your oil, and you have no wealth whatsoever. Option 2- we buy it, and pump huge amounts of money into the saudi economy, but your stupid-ass king wastes it on whatever it is he wastes it on and it doesn't find its way into the pockets of the common man. Option 3- the government distributes the wealth to the people. Slight problem there, though. We're not supposed to go in anywhere and replace disfunctional regimes. So, if the saudi government ultimately doesn't decide to share the wealth, you tell me exactly what america is supposed to do. If we didn't do business with them, you'd have no money at all. Palestine- Israel has made repeated attempts at negotiating for peace, only to have yasser arafat piss in their pool every time. So the fucking coward exhorts teenagers to blow up jewish women, children, and babies. That's alright with you? The jews, after suffering centuries of persecution, now want just one strip of land along the mediterranean sea, and you stupid fuckers whine about a "war on islam." Israel attacks terrorist camps, and sometimes innocents are inadvertently killed. The hamas and hezbollah fuckers deliberately target civilians. There's a huge difference. In the 1990's, america fought two wars in the former yugoslavia to prevent genocide against muslims. We won, and saved the lives of muslims who would have otherwise been the victims of that genocide. Likewise in both of our wars in Iraq, where the iraqis now have more opportunities than ever before. You stupid fuckers whine about your "brother and sister muslims," and you do nothing for them except teach them hate and evil and tell them that they have nothing to hope for. That's because you stupid-ass losers can't think of anything better. You coward motherfuckers would have them believe that if the US and Israel disappeared, somehow the poverty and the wifebeating and the evil extremism would be tolerable? Because I'm sure it would go on. The US will win the war on terror, and you stupid fucks will lose. Isreal will survive, and your envisioned second holocaust will never happen. By the way, I know that yasser arafat's personal mentor, the mufti of jerusalem or whatever your stupid fucking arab word is for it, visited the nazi death camps and praised hitler for killing jews, hoping that then they wouldn't come to the middle east. So don't you fucking cowardly pussies ever talk to us about killing innocents. I wonder if you stupid fucks even realize that your fucking koran took the jewish and christian scriptures and adopted them as its own. All of the prophets that you supposedly honor who lived before mohammed were devout jews, so they were jews before they were muslims! Wow, what a concept! And its the same God, the God who told Abraham's descendants through Isaac that "I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you." God has indeed blessed Israel and cursed her enemies. God's promise to rebuild the temple mount will happen. Bye-by
 
the corrector, to the two ignorant who posted have you even read what you wrote?! i think not, before you go around bad mouthing other people's religion i suggest you take a good look of our own religion.Mary blessing christianity is a messed up religion, everything contradicts each other...so stop the nonsense!
 
me, Silly...
 
Rosemary, I am pleased by the time and consideration you have taken for this article. I believe many of the others who have commented, did so without reading your article with an open mind. I try to do that, until I read the catch words and phrases. I did not find any in this article. It was thoughtful and historical. It gives me food for thought. By the way, I am an American Christian. I do not believe the struggle is with "muslims." In America, we sometimes have problems with people who want to take religion and use it for their own purposes. The purpose is usually never good. I believe this is what may have happened. It would be a great help to see more articles like this one, and if more Imams would speak up against terrorism. The problem is, however, they always include the Jews. I don't know, but it seems to me the Jews have been to blame ever since people noticed they exsisted! We need to hear sincerity. Iraq will be holding elections this month on the 31! I hope all the foreign governments and their people stay away, because the Iraqi people are serious about voting. The excitement is filling the air! I am very happy they do not have to live under fear of torture, rape, beatings, and death for no reason. They are good and decent people. This is a good site to visit if you are curious about how Iraqis feel and think. God bless you.
 
Sarah, Rosemary, Jews are not always to blame but in this corrupted world they play a very big role...though many people...icluding myself at a time i thought the jews were used as a scapegoat. However,it turns out that they are very deceiving...i don't like to judge people but i have encountered them personally and find the comments made about them very true. They are very smart people and almost always do their dirty work and cover their traces....the only way they can be exposed is through the media which will never happen because America is way too friendly with Isreal and support what they are doing to the poor Palestinians. As for Paul....what ever your surname is...i have never come across a more bitter,resentful,arrogant person like your self. I hope one day you will grow out of this pathetic phase and open your eyes to the truth and not believe all the rubbish portrayed in the media. NEWS FLASH...you live in a world of lies!!!...guess this will come as a big shock....don't worry i'm sure the hosptial can fix heart attacks, if not perhaps you shall Hitler in hell,say Hi! to him from his to-be-dictator Bush,i am speaking on Bush's behalf because he can not drag himself away from his friends that are trapped in his head...yeah the voices are getting to him! poor old Bush ey? Mary BLessed. We all have our religion...you have yours and i have mine. To tell you Christianity is a messed up religion....there are so many contradiction that you no longer know what truth to follow...i suggest you seek the truth...the real truth. Anyways i enjoyed reading the article...
 
ssssssssssss, how dare you publish such stupid comment such as that of mary blessed
 
Daniel Brodzik, When will so-called "Christians" start ACTING like Christians? Honestly, people, start accepting people who are different from you for a change. The biggest change to the US was the fact that all Arabic people are treated worse than ever before. People who go around shooting their mouths off about all Arabic people being killers are being as bad as people who are against African people. Grow up. I'm an American Catholic, and this is how I feel. Nice article, by the way.
 
Michael Carlson, The truth is, if we expect lessons to be learned from events like 9/11 then people have to realize how close minded there own point of view is, all the comments Ive seen on this article talk about the jews, the christians the americans the arabs, this and that, but geuss what people, none of that matters, infact thats the very problem, the article talked about getting way from the past, but all this close minded religous thinking whatever its form is the past, i mean not one reply here has yet been expressed simply by the point of view of being a human being trapped on this sad world of ours, everyone says first and formost "im a christian" or "im an arab" or "im this or im that". for example one person talked of the temple mount, others talked of "gods chosen people" this is all non sense. how do you think u get a suicide bomer in the first place . you fill his head with religous nonsense then you tell him who is good and who to hate. this author was a perfect example of the very problem he was tring to address in the article. i cant stand thinking like this, 90% of the worlds Religons are close minded brainwashing sessions as much as the next terrorist training camp. bottom line is that anything that creates an Us or them, your wrong im right,God likes us but not you,,, kind of thinking is the first step towards trouble,
 
stop the insanity, Interesting viewpoint, Michael. I feel that although 90% of the world's religions do exhibit some brainwashing, most of them when treated correctly will advocate that peace should triumph over war. Unfortunately there are too many people who have distorted this concept throughout the ages, and it continues to be distorted. In my opinion, this was a very good article because you get a sense of how the Middle East does not want to face these crucial issues head on. They act like they have all of the answers when they should continue to engage in debate, express differing viewpoints, and continue to ask questions that need answers. As the author stated, Americans did ask these questions of themselves, and they continue to ask these questions. This is why Bush was elected by the slimmest of margins, partly because there are a lot of people who do not agree with Bush as to why America was attacked. But at least we have elections, at least we let women vote and drive to work, at least we tell our children that guns are bad when they are used to kill people, and at least we do not preach hatred and intolerance in our schools. I think teaching children is a critical issue here, because they will be the next generation of adults, and what we teach them shows how we want them to act when they grow up. When I see organizations allowing young children to march in unison with assault weapons, I realize that some adults do not want the best for their children. They do not want peace, they want only war and intolerance. First you must teach children to resolve issues through handshakes, sound dialogue, and kind, meaningful gestures, and only then can you set your nations on the right path, as the children can use these lessons throughout life.
 
a canuck, Paul N. Please tell us what you REALLY think. I agree with the poster that said it's all a load of religious crap and hate mongering - on BOTH sides. Watch out - Canada will have to step in (smile) We're all doomed if these postings are really representative anyway...
 
Robert Oelhaf, It is striking how radical the comments are compared to the original article. Setting aside minor grammatical issues (for crying out loud how would we sound in Farsi???) I think this is very well laid out, cautious and evenhanded. It says a lot that the Kingdom would allow such diversity of opinion. Fellow Americans etc, don't trash talk one of the oldest civilizations in the world without any reason behind your words, it doesn't become you. Let me also say that I felt a jolt within my body as I listened to the radio broadcast that day and realized a second plane had crashed, then a third and a fourth. In that moment I would say the United States, which i dearly love, went into a group psychotic state in which our military would be used to crush and utterly defeat somebody, anybody that would seem related to the event. Was this right or wrong? Some say one thing, others something else. Many have suffered and died for what those maniacs did on that day. As young as I am I may not live to see the day when all the historians of the world agree on the ethics of what has transpired since then. Something that has also suffered greatly in the minds of Americans I speak with is any thought of kindness about Pan Arabism. I personally have no problem with the idea. For example, how would a Pan Arab union differ in any material way organizationally from the European Union? By the way, is the EU a threat to NATO? Of course it is, but no one seems to care in the countries affected for some reason. I think it all comes down to American ignorance of Arabs and Arab culture. Ignorance breeds suspicion, then hatred then war. Instead, we need conversation, which breeds knowledge, which breeds peace and frienships. Thank you.
 
Robert Oelhaf, It is striking how radical the comments are compared to the original article. Setting aside minor grammatical issues (for crying out loud how would we sound in Farsi???) I think this is very well laid out, cautious and evenhanded. It says a lot that the Kingdom would allow such diversity of opinion. Fellow Americans etc, don't trash talk one of the oldest civilizations in the world without any reason behind your words, it doesn't become you. Let me also say that I felt a jolt within my body as I listened to the radio broadcast that day and realized a second plane had crashed, then a third and a fourth. In that moment I would say the United States, which i dearly love, went into a group psychotic state in which our military would be used to crush and utterly defeat somebody, anybody that would seem related to the event. Was this right or wrong? Some say one thing, others something else. Many have suffered and died for what those maniacs did on that day. As young as I am I may not live to see the day when all the historians of the world agree on the ethics of what has transpired since then. Something that has also suffered greatly in the minds of Americans I speak with is any thought of kindness about Pan Arabism. I personally have no problem with the idea. For example, how would a Pan Arab union differ in any material way organizationally from the European Union? By the way, is the EU a threat to NATO? Of course it is, but no one seems to care in the countries affected for some reason. I think it all comes down to American ignorance of Arabs and Arab culture. Ignorance breeds suspicion, then hatred then war. Instead, we need conversation, which breeds knowledge, which breeds peace and frienships. Thank you.
 
Bert Finchdene, My dear Muslim friends, Please wake up. Your hatred is ruining you. Stop blaming the world. Look at yourself in the mirror. Do really think that getting rid of the Jews will solve your problems? Do you really expect anything to change if Israel was exterminated? Do you really believe that everything is a Jewish conspiracy? Was the 11 year Iraq Iran war where a million people died for no reason a Jewish conspiracy? Was the extermination of tens of thousands of Curds in northern Iraq a Jewish conspiracy? Was the 9 year Lebanese Christian Muslim Civil War with thousands dead a Jewish conspiracy? Was the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which deprived women of any human rights and turned them into a commodity less valuable then livestock a Jewish conspiracy? Is the gang rape and murder of Muslim women to “save the family honour” a Jewish conspiracy? Was the destruction of centuries old Hindu temples in Afghanistan a Jewish conspiracy? Was the Iraqi invasion to Kuwait a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in India a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Pakistan a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Bali a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Indonesia a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Macedonia a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Algeria a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Chechnya a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Russia a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in the Philippines a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Egypt a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Saudi Arabia a Jewish conspiracy? Is Muslim terrorism in Yemen a Jewish conspiracy? Wake up and get out of your bed of hatred. Look inside, it is up to you. The Germans rose from the destruction of their country in WWII. In less than quarter of a century completely rebuilt and recovered. The Japanese were left with nothing but ashes after the war. They got up, rolled their sleeves and started rebuilding. Today they are the leading technological power in the world. The Koreans rose from rice growing peasants to the world’s fastest growing economy with leading high tech and heavy industries. Practically every eastern block country had to start rebuilding from scratch after the fall of communism. Did they blame the Jews? No they concentrated on infrastructure, housing, education and industry. Yes they are still struggling but at least they are not sitting, pointing fingers and feeling sorry for them selves. Most Arab countries have more natural recourses and more people than any of the above mentioned. But yet their people are poor and uneducated. What do you do besides blaming the world? What do teach your children besides hate? Where do you think this hate is it taking you? Is it going to educate you children? is it going to give your people any prosperity? The Jews were bruised and battered over four millennia; they were driven out of their country more than once well before Mohammad was born and even before Jesus was born. They have suffered humiliations and poverty, they were banned from society and ownership of any asset for centuries and will probably continue suffering the most ghastly and ungodly persecutions and indignities as they have suffered through out their history. They may even be driven out of their country yet again in the future. But that my Muslim friends will not heal your backwards societies, it will not stop Muslim Terrorism and it will not make you smarter, it will not win you prosperity or any Nobel prises that are being held from you today. So please my Muslim Friends, Please wake up, Israel is hardly the size of a pinhead; it is smaller most countries. And its population is less then one percent of the Muslim population. What would the destruction of this country really change? These 20 countries are all officially Muslim: Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, morocco, turkey, Indonesia, Kuwa
 
S Amin, :- Writers & readers-Please refer to this aricle and wake up Subject: CIA Funding Terrorists Date: 5 Dec 2005 03:54:57 -0000 >How our governments use terrorism to control us >By Tim Howells >Online Journal Contributing Writer > >http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_277.shtml >Nov 28, 2005, 13:55 >The sponsorship of terrorism by western governments, targeting their own populations, has been a taboo subject. Although major scandals have received cursory coverage in the media, the subject has been allowed to immediately disappear without discussion or investigation. Therefore the appearance this year of two major studies of this subject is a welcome breakthrough, and provides essential reading for anyone struggling to understand the events of September 11, 2001 and the post September 11 world. > >The studies are complementary. NATO's Secret Armies, Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe by Daniele Ganser concerns terrorism sponsored by American and British intelligence in Western Europe and Turkey between the end of World War II and 1985. The War on Truth, 9/11, Disinformation, and the Anatomy of Terrorism by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed chronicles the cultivation and sponsorship of militant Islamic terrorism by the intelligence services of the United States, Britain and Russia from 1979 to the present. Both studies are models of scholarship -- meticulously documented and carefully reasoned -- but the world they reveal will boggle the mind of the most wild-eyed conspiracy theorist. > >Creating "Communist" Terrorism to Fuel the Cold War > >NATO's Secret Armies describes how following World War II the US and Britain, fearing a Soviet invasion of Europe, established "stay-behind" paramilitary units throughout Western Europe and in Turkey. Had the anticipated Soviet invasion occurred these units would have constituted ready made resistance groups, trained and armed, with secure communications with each other and with their allies in Britain and the US. In some counties, for example Norway and Sweden, these stay-behind units were true to their original charters, remaining inactive until they disbanded at the end of the Cold War. In other countries, however, the paramilitary units were activated by their handlers in the United States as part of a hellish "Strategy of Tension" designed to convince left-leaning populations in Italy, Germany, Belgium, Greece, Turkey and other countries that their very lives were at risk from communist terrorists. The arms and bombs originally intended for the Soviets were turned instead on their own compatriots with the aim of placing the blame for the waves of terrorist attacks on communists. > >In Italy the stay-behind operation was referred to as Gladio (Latin for "Sword"). The Piazza Fontana bombings that killed 16 and wounded 80 shortly before Christmas in 1969 initiated a wave of terrorist bombings in Italy by Gladio operatives that continued throughout the 1970s. The worst single bombing occurred in the Bologna train station in 1980, killing 85 and wounding 200. Another Gladio bombing in Brescia in 1974 killed eight and wounded 102, and the same year a train was bombed in Rome, killing 12 and wounding 48. The case that led to the discovery of the Gladio plots by the Italian courts was a 1972 bombing that killed three policemen. > >The Gladio operations in Italy are relatively well known and well understood because of several high level judicial investigations that received coverage in the European press and have been the subject of a few books. One contribution of Ganser's book is to bring this material together in a concise and well organised format. Further, Ganser extends his study beyond Italy to examine the effects of stay-behind operations throughout Western Europe and in Turkey. > >I was quite surprised to learn that by far the most extensive and destructive stay-behind operations were those carried out in Turkey under the code name Count
 
S.Amin, S Amin: Terorism-Osama-Al Qaeda,9-11 are intelligence & political tools used to mis represent Muslims & Islam.This is the Ziocon propaganda / plans/acts used to attack Muslims / Islam after destroying USSR.This is the next/ current cold war.Osama & his team only appear in the media / cassettes of Al-Jazeera TV of the Qatar province of United States of America to support Bush,Blair...& their team,to help them win elections,get congress,senate,parliament bills passed by OSAMA'S very ,very, very,timely cassette release THREATS.TERRORISM IS THE NEW TOOL USED TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW WORLD DISORDER. AL QAEDA IS SIMPLY A WING OF CIA / FBI / MOSAD / MI-5...'S HIRED BY MONEY & BLACKMAILING AGENTS.IF ANY BODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT AL QAEDA IS DOING NEXT-JUDGE IT FROM BUSH'S OR BLAIR'S SPEACHES/STATEMENTS- THEY PREDICT THE NEXT ACTIVITY.OSAMA,AL ZWAHIRY'S ALL STATEMENTS /CASSETTES TIMELY APPEAR TO SUPPORT BUSH,BLAIR,ISRAEL'S ACTIONS,NEEDS.THESE CAT & MOUSE / TOM & JERRY CATOONS ARE CREATED TO FOOL THE WORLD, TO KEEP WAGING WARS,JUSTIFY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, JUSTIFY & LEGALISE COLOUR / RELIGIOUS DISCIMINATION,RACIALISM,COLONIALISM,INJUSTICE,SUPPORT PUPPET REGIMES..... THIS IS THE REAL FACE OF CAPITALISM,SO ROTTEN,POVERTY INDUCING THROUGH RUMOR-PRICE HIKE SYSTEM THAT IT WILL BRING THE SOCIALISM BACK BY THE FED UP MASSES OF PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD DUE TO THE BLOOD SUCKING,OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC BY THE ELITE MAFIA'S BY WAY OF WARS,RUMOR & DELIBERATELY SPONSORED ATTACKS-CIVIL WARS TO SHUT DOWN OIL SUPPLIES TO HIKE OIL PRICES & HENCE MARKET /COMMODITY PRICES,WHICH NEVER RETURN BACK/COME DOWN ( ITS GENERAL PUBLIC'S HARD EARNED MONEY STOLEN BY PRICE HIKES, INTO ELITE & CORPORATE CRIMNALS' POCKETS, TAXES ULTIMATELY POURING INTO ELITE/CORPORATE POCKETS.THERE IS NO REAL BASIS FOR ANY NATIONS / RELIGIONS / PEOPLE TO GO TO WARS. ITS THIS ELITISM/CORPORATE CULTURE/CAPITALISM/NEW WORLD DISORDER THAT SUPPORTS ALL THE WARS,CONFLICTS,TERROR ACTIVITIES/GANGS...THIS HAGEMONY IS MAINTAINED BY THE USA,EXPERT ADVISE & AID BY UK,FLARED & SPEARHEADED BY ISRAEL & ITS GOVERNOR GENERALS IN THE USA,UNWILLING BY THE COALITION OF THE WILLING (ACTUALLY NON- WILLING COUNTRIES).EVERY THING EXTREEME HAS AN END, THIS CAT & MOUSE/TOM & JERRY STORY / DRAMA WILL ULTIMATELY COME TO ITS LOGICAL END,ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. ( S.AMIN: amin@iafrica.com )
 
Muhammed, Look to the humble city. The towel of comfort is sitting in the chair. A whip can be made to clean as well as correct. So it is with the mouth of young ones. Set your eyes to the mountain and stagger not for the holy stone. Correct your ways in as much as a puddle is something shiny. Eat the royal fig, my friend. And dance the dance of oranges.
 
S.Amin, . Please refer to a posting in one of these articles, posted as: [Wellwisher, http://website.lineone.net/~jon.simmons/roy/peanutb.htm Here is a list of the countries that America has been at war with - and bombed - since the second world war: China (1945-46, 1950-53), Korea (1950-53), Guatemala (1954, 1967-69), Indonesia (1958), Cuba (1959-60), the Belgian Congo (1964), Peru (1965), Laos (1964-73), Vietnam (1961-73), Cambodia (1969-70), Grenada (1983), Libya (1986), El Salvador (1980s), Nicaragua (1980s), Panama (1989), Iraq (1991-99), Bosnia (1995), Sudan (1998), Yugoslavia (1999). And now Afghanistan. Certainly it does not tire - this, the most free nation in the world ] ( un quote) Comment:- Yes it did not tire and went into Iraq, now planning for Iran, then Syria, Then S. Arabia , what next ? Ask the Israeli's, they 've got the list , Bush, Blair, Cheney get revelations through Rumsfeld's team that brings them from the Capitol Hill-TELAVIV. Its a matter of serious concen, historical significance & background and future predictor of logical / scientific outcome: To every action, there is equal and opposite reaction ( Newton's Laws ). How can USA grow seeds of hatred, bloodshed, barbarianism, abuse resources of other nations, leave them poor, bombed, irradiated, orphaned and label them ignorant, uncivilized, terrorists and reap crops of love and appreciation, despite pouring lots of aid over these wounds and then hurt the wounds again and again. Same being done by European Governments. This is the root cause of First World versus the rest. [THE FIRST WORLD'S PROGRESS IN EDUCATION,INDUSTRIES,SCIENCES....IS SUPERB, A BIG WELL DONE, IN CAPITALS, ALONG WITH THE AID GIVEN IN DISASTERS, CRISIS, THE DONATIONS ARE ACTS, BEYOND DOUBT, APPRECIATED IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WORDS.] Now returning to 9-11:- Many 9-11s happened in the past, are happening and will happen to keep on track and justify this dominance. Problem is common people are too ignorant, short sighted, Hollywood fantasized, shopping obsessed..... and have all their time for worthless activities but no time for critical thought. May be they fear the reality and hide in the myths and dreams of self glorification.( For example you as American still don't know that the name of your country has been changed by this regime to THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, where HYPOCRACY is called DEMOCRACY. Your capital has (with full effect from 1960s ) changed. The country is no more governed from Washington, but from TELAVIV. This is a crude example of : THOSE WHO STEAL OTHER PEOPLES' SOVERENITY,GET THEIR OWN SOVERENITY STOLEN, LIKEWISE.) *There will be no threats from the many AXES OF EVIL [They just want to mind their own business, leave them alone. If you chase a mouse it will scare away, but if you corner it, it will stand up to its defense, even without any WMD ,however powerless it may be, then you call it AXIS OF EVIL, TERRORIST, HAS WMD, THREATENS ISRAEL, WANTS A- BOMB, WHICH EVERYONE ON YOUR SIDE HAS IN HUGE NO.S, IS UNCIVILISED...IS THIS THE NEW WORLD DISORDER, GLOBALISATION, THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY- USA's NEW NAME, HYPO (DEMO)CRACY]. JUST THE ANGELS WILL FACE THEIR HOLY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY ( NO INTERNET, COSMETICS TO MEDICINE, MOON TO MARS GIVES ANYONE LICENSE OF CIVILISATION FOR MASS KILLINGS, EXPLOITING / LOOTING FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS, ON SKIN COLOR AND RELIGIOUS DIVIDES. ( I HAVE DETAILED ACCOUNTS OF OIL- GOLD-OTHER MINNING,WEAPON INDUSTRIES' FIGURES FROM VARIOUS COUNTRIES / DECADES TO STATE THIS). THESE ARE ACTS OF BARBARIANISM CONTRARY TO CIVILISATION. The Weather inside USA is as pleasant as in Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Chengez Khan's Palaces. But it is not representative of reality. TODAYS AMERICANS ARE NO BETTER INFORMED THAN THE FRENCH QUEEN WHO SUGGESTED TO THE POOR PROTESTORS THAT IF THEY CAN'T GET THE BREAD, WHY DON'T THEY EAT CAKE. PLEASE DON'T BRUISE (NOT BROWSE) PASS THE REALITIE
 
candy, i don't think we had learn any thing
 
Interested Party, I'll be honest and admit that I didn't read through every article, I got so far and realised one thing, if this is an example of where we are now, still bitching about religion and even someone's poor english (shit mate if you're gonna be that petty, don't fuck about, say what you mean), come on people I definitely ain't no hippy but fuck me, if you're intelligent enough to string a sentance together (english abilities irrelevant) you must realise that people are just that, people, after all if we, the big us, don't sort this shit out the politicians and religious leaders are going to do it out for us and I guarantee you there will be more of us fuckers dead and buried than them.
 
Rajah Matikas, To S. Lofagus: You're a shame to what you represent, if anything. The article, is one enlightening view of the current events especially coming from an Arab who is honest enough to try to rebuke fellow Arabs who are more apt to be having a bad case of hallucination.
 
hamza, http://www.loosechange911.com/
 
billy, First of all dear sir, i woold leave ATHENS out of this! because ATHENS have nothing to do with your problems or the problems of this world! actualy ATHENS gave everything to this world and the world tryed to destroy it. And ATHENS was never sleeping it was well awake,until some BARBARIANS came to destroy it,because of jeloucy of its glory so if you have anny comments about midle-east leave ATHENS out of it! Now about the war, there is nothing in this world,that can bring bring back time. Do you people know were we live? Do you people know how precius life is? Do you know that,it was milions or billions of years,that life found its way to were we are? Dont you have anny respect for it? Why are you people trying to destroy it? Why you leaders of the world,think that you can have everything to yourselfs when you know that we cant (LIVE) for ever? The political and religious power that you seek is a mere nothing against this beautiful thing that is given to us wich in case you forgoten its caled (LIFE)!!! People must wake up, for the END is near.
 
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Matt Mackensie, Muslims are backwards, ignorant and stupid. Sorry... there are a few good ones... but most fall into that generalization. Look at your pitiful selves. Wake up. I'm not wasting anymore time telling you. I am just waiting for the rest of the world to take arms and get rid of your barbaric pseudo-civilications. Its only a matter of time idiots. You people don't understand political correctness. The US does and is only playing a chess game which you will all lose. My vote is to rid the productive and largely caring citizens of this world, of your dirty muslims asses.
 
I cant think for everybody., Why do you muslims blame everything on someone else. Can't you just accept its your fault. You hate Americans because they are substantially wealthier than you. You think we kill civiallians for fun don't you. But we don't. Your own stupid taliban or w/e dress as civillians. Iran's president blames is countries povery on Jews. That's funny he probably hasn't even seen a jew before. He thinks the Holocaust never happen, maybe he should visit Poland or the Holocaust museum some time. Anyways, you Muslims only care about blaming it on someone else. That's all you do. Half the Quran is the Bible and Muhammed is a freakin criminal. You guys just need to seriously startover again or something because it's out of hand. The whole world hates you because you kill people because you just want to blame all the muslims dieing on someone else. So maybe you should all die. It would make the world a much better place but I can't doing thing about that. So tell your friends just don't kill anyone and go to school and try to find the cure for aids or something. Maybe it will be better for eveybody
 
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vinodh c, if im not wrong, in islam , if a girl is raped or if a person murders some one or even for a small theft , they are hanged , particularly in saudi arabia. so if a person is hanged for a small theft , then i wanna ask saudi government , did they issue a capital punishment for that venom , for that cruel , heartless osama bin laden ( he is a saudi guy ) ,and the worst part is there are few people in middle east who still believes that 9/11 is of jewish conspiracy. good joke. just for namesake osama bin laden is condemned in few countries, most of the countries funds him directly and indirectly, good to be in dubai, its hundred times better and safe, eventhough there are many underground activities
 
emily, I am ashamed to be American after reading these comments. Wow, is all I can say. I've noticed from reading various newssites that it seems to be some of the angriest people out there who comment in forums. Or are people just writing what they won't say out loud? Because I don't hear these views in everyday life here. I don't know ANYONE personally who thinks the way some of these ignorant and Muslim-bashing people think. I apologize to everyone who is offended on behalf of them.
 
sahada, " Our Lord! In You we haved placed our trust,and to You do we turn in repentance,for unto You is the end of all journeys"(Quran 60:4) My dear coreaders,i ask for Allah His forgiveness for what you had said in this article against Him and the holy Quran... After reading almost all the articles i come up to the conclusion that we are all the victims here... from media to the people around us who telling/writing all the stories, articles etc. I hope inshaAllah Allah will continue guide us to the right path and we pray that He will open the hearts of the people who are still innocent of what really the teaching of Islam is... Anway we all come to an end from this journey. Allah is ever-Knowing and the Most Powerful over all things. I'am praying for all our Muslim breathen, non-muslim for continuing searching the truth while we have still chance in this world...Ameeeeeeeeen! maidy_meg@yahoo.com
 
sahada, " Our Lord! In You we haved placed our trust,and to You do we turn in repentance,for unto You is the end of all journeys"(Quran 60:4) My dear coreaders,i ask for Allah His forgiveness for what you had said in this article against Him and the holy Quran... After reading almost all the articles i come up to the conclusion that we are all the victims here... from media to the people around us who telling/writing all the stories, articles etc. I hope inshaAllah Allah will continue guide us to the right path and we pray that He will open the hearts of the people who are still innocent of what really the teaching of Islam is... Anway we all come to an end from this journey. Allah is ever-Knowing and the Most Powerful over all things. I'am praying for all our Muslim breathen, non-muslim for continuing searching the truth while we have still chance in this world...Ameeeeeeeeen! maidy_meg@yahoo.com
 

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