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August 14, 2007

Dennis, Tom, and Jesse ...

excellent cartoon by John Egerton of www.area51.com

Today was interesting. After listening to Dennis Balthaser on Gene and Dave's Paracast last night, I got the opportunity to follow up with phone conversations with Dennis Balthaser, Tom Carey, and Jesse Marcel, Jr. I was interested in asking Jesse, in particular, about the portrait of his father that Walter Haut paints in his affidavit.

And because Jesse saw his father on the night he returned from Fort Worth and the debacle in Ramey's office over the weather balloon photo, I was interested to hear if Jesse remembered what his father's demeanor was. Did it comport with Walter Haut's description of Marcel earlier in the afternoon?

Jesse, who has not as of yet read the Walter Haut affidavit, confirmed that indeed, his father seemed upset when he returned. He sat both him and his mother down and said in the most definitive of terms, "We will never talk about this again." And he made sure to say, "This never happened." This was in stark contrast to the night of July 7th when Major Marcel brought the Roswell debris home to the house first and woke his son, Jesse, Jr., so that he could see it because, as Jesse explains it, his father said that he would probably never see its like again.

Dennis Balthaser also revealed something very interesting in our conversation, something that I think very few people know. With all the apparent disagreement over the nature of both the veracity of the Walter Haut 2002 affidavit and the real issues behind the 2000 Balthaser/Connors Haut interview, I asked Dennis why they did the interview in the first place. What was their rationale? Did this come completely out of the blue (no product-placement pun intended)?

Dennis said that the entire idea for the interview was not just that they truly wanted to get Walter's distinguished military career on record, but it was a comment that both Wendy and Dennis heard Walter make to a French documentary film crew back in 2000 who were filming at the Museum. During an interview with this documentary crew, Dennis and Wendy said that they heard Walter say that he saw the bodies.

Saw the bodies?

This conflicted absolutely with Walter Haut's 1993 sworn affidavit that he only took the press release text from Colonel Blanchard and that was the extent of his involvement. Did Walter Haut just contradict his own sworn statement from seven years earlier? Dennis said that he and Wendy walked outside of the Museum and stared at each other. "Did you hear what I just heard?" Each said yes. OK, Dennis said, we have to get this in an interview. And that was part of the basis for the 2000 interview, which, Dennis pointed out a number of times during our brief interview, was conducted with Julie Shuster's full agreement and permission.

I wonder, could it have been this interview, in which Walter Haut contradicted himself several times when he said he did see the bodies, no he didn't see anything, well, he saw the bodies from a distance, but, no, he really didn't see anything, that so troubled Walter to the point where, in a conversation with Don Schmitt, he admitted his conflict over this problem? Don told me back in June that he had suggested to Walter that in order to keep his promise to Blanchard while at the same time getting the truth out, that he set his statement down in an affidavit not to be released until after his death. Don said that he knew that Walter had said that he had seen the alien bodies. And so Don knew that there was much more that Walter had to say than he had said previously. And that was the genesis of the 2002 affidavit.

I talked with Dennis, Tom, and Jesse Marcel about what I intended to write in the upcoming September of UFO Magazine about this affidavit, a story I'm calling, "And They Were All Honorable Men." It's a perspective not only on Roswell, but on the very despicable nature of the coverup: what the Pentagon forced Ramey to do, what Ramey forced Blanchard to do, and why, in protecting his PIO Walter Haut, Blanchard set his intelligence officer, Jesse Marcel, up to be the victim of a double-cross that would not only prove to be his exit from the military three years later, but basically destroy the man's life. Jesse Marcel, Jr., told me this evening that this sounded plausible.

So take a look at this story in our September issue and let me know what you think after you read it. I think Walter Haut's 2002 affidavit really says it all and agrees, on its material facts, with Walter's 2000 interview with Dennis Balthaser and Wendy Connors. Dennis said he agrees with me, too, on this point.

Again, stay tuned because there's more to come.

Bill Birnes

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