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Supreme Court rejects appeal questioning Obama’s citizenship

Posted: December 15, 2008 1110 GMT
The U.S. Supreme Court rejected a second appeal Monday challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship.
The U.S. Supreme Court rejected a second appeal Monday challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court has dismissed a second emergency appeal questioning Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president because he had dual British-American citizenship at birth.

The justices without comment on Monday refused to intervene in the November 4 presidential election, dismissing the claims of Cort Wrotnowski, a resident of Greenwich, Connecticut.

In his appeal, Wrotnowski claimed that because Obama’s father was a Kenyan-born British subject, the president-elect does meet the Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born citizen” of the United States. Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. His mother was a U.S. citizen, born in the United States.

Many legal analysts questioned Wrotnowski’s argument.

“The law has always been understood to be, if you are born here, you’re a natural born citizen,” said Thomas Goldstein, founder of the Scotusblog.com Web site and a lawyer who has argued numerous cases before the high court. “And that is particularly true in this case, when you have a U.S. citizen parent like Barack Obama’s mother.”

A similar appeal was rejected a week ago by the high court, from a retired lawyer in New Jersey.

In another lawsuit making its way through the courts, Philip Berg of Pennsylvania alleges the president-elect was actually born in Kenya. Berg claims Hawaiian officials will not let him see Obama’s original birth certificate, although the campaign posted a copy of it online this summer, following numerous blog postings over the citizenship question. That case had previously been dismissed by lower federal courts.

The appeal rejected Monday is Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz (08A469).

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336 Comments

  1. Lou from CT
    December 15th, 2008 11:36 am ET

    It is time to put these bogus legal challenges to rest once and for all.

    Sounds like some Republicans still have sour grapes!

  2. Salt
    December 15th, 2008 11:36 am ET

    It does not matter where your parents are born. If you are born in the US, you are a US citizen. People are so stupid.

  3. Bob
    December 15th, 2008 11:37 am ET

    These clowns will never stop the stupidity. As we can see these so call lawyers are not to bright. Suck it up and try again in 4 years jokers.

  4. Ooh, ooh, pick me, pick me
    December 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

    If they’re questioning Barack’s citizenship because his father was a British subject, why didn’t they question McCains since he was born in Panama?

    What is their motive and thinking/beliefs that is behind these repeated attacks on his citizenship status?

  5. Brandon from WI
    December 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

    These people need a better hobby than clogging the dockets of the US Supreme Court with nonsense. I believe William Shatner said it best when addressing a Star Trek convention on SNL “Get a Life”.

  6. AJ
    December 15th, 2008 11:39 am ET

    I wish these fools will stop bothering the SC with stupid review requests.

  7. A Really Conservative Realist
    December 15th, 2008 11:39 am ET

    There are lots of other good reasons other than this foolishness why BO should not be President. But alas, the America of today is a strange bird indeed. All these reasons were trumped by a vote.

  8. Chip Monk
    December 15th, 2008 11:39 am ET

    Thank God somebody in Washington DC has some sense. I don’t see how such a frivolous lawsuit ever made it out of Federal Court. Methinks somebody filed this lawsuit just to make a name for themselves. Well, they succeeded! “Moron.” But we *knew* that even before we heard from the U.S. Supreme Court, didn’t we?

  9. Seth, Michigan
    December 15th, 2008 11:40 am ET

    Birth certificate and certificate of live birth are two very different things…do your research, please, before writing an asinine statement like the one above.

  10. Meh
    December 15th, 2008 11:40 am ET

    Man, racists will do ANYTHING not to have a black president. Grow up, and stop wasting people’s time!

  11. Trevor in Ja
    December 15th, 2008 11:40 am ET

    ‘By any means necessary’ is been taken very literally by these people who could not win on the spectre of ‘Terrorist’, ‘Socialist’ or the White House becoming the ‘Black House’. Can’t they accept that at least up to Jan 20, 2012 the POTUS will be BARACK HUSAIN OBAMA?

  12. Melissa
    December 15th, 2008 11:41 am ET

    I hope this means that people will let it go, but I doubt it. The court has never dealt with this specific question before, and they certainly are not going to look at it in the context of a presidential election.

  13. Dwayne
    December 15th, 2008 11:41 am ET

    Wah! Wah! Wah!
    McCain lost so get over it!
    Obviously, you must be unpatriotic and against funding our troops!

  14. Wow
    December 15th, 2008 11:41 am ET

    Would this be happening if McCain, born in Panana, was elected? Just wondering.

  15. SHIRLEY "60"
    December 15th, 2008 11:43 am ET

    ARE YOU PEOPLE JUST STUPID FOR WASTING THE COURTS TIME ON THIS?

  16. Matt
    December 15th, 2008 11:44 am ET

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

    Take that you silly, narrow-minded, self-centered controversy fabricators!!!!! CRY IN YOUR SOUP!!!

  17. Farrell, Houston, Tx
    December 15th, 2008 11:46 am ET

    If Obama is not a U.S. citizen then none of us are and Wrotnowski must have a personal problem.

  18. Apples for sale
    December 15th, 2008 11:46 am ET

    Just when you thought Polish jokes were on the decline,along comes a guy his parents named Cort.

  19. ST
    December 15th, 2008 11:46 am ET

    At the time Obama was born the rule was if you were born in the US, you are an US citizen. Last I checked Hawaii was part of the US. What an idiot! Wasting precious time and money on a meaningless arguement. I think people just don’t want change in anyway. They want this country ran by the same people over and over again….white males. No one else is qualified. Give it a rest.

  20. CHI TOWN
    December 15th, 2008 11:47 am ET

    GOOD GREIF, THIS AGAIN.

  21. Ken in NC
    December 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

    It is a shame that so many people can spend so much time trying to destroy what our country has done in this last election. If only they would work with others putting that energy towards solving the problems of this nation the world would be a better place to live.

    Consider this. Under US Laws, a pregnant mother crosses the border from Mexico illegally and gives birth to a child in the United States, she could still be deported but our laws deem the new born to be a US citizen by virture of it’s birth on US soil. Now this is a child with two Mexican parents and the child is a US citizen. Give it a break. You are not going to win this one.

  22. bernj
    December 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

    Proof reading is kind of important CNN.

  23. DC
    December 15th, 2008 11:50 am ET

    He’s already proven his citizenship why is this even an issue? its a waste of time

  24. Marc
    December 15th, 2008 11:51 am ET

    Is it legal to demand someone else’s original birth certificate in HAWAII? If it’s not then Phillip Berg (of PENNSYLVANIA) has ZERO rights to complain about it. If the Hawaiian authorities protects their official records against anyones who THINKS that has the rights to see them, and just that no other justification but the mere thought of a right, then Berg must move to challenge such protection first.
    And anyway, he was born in Hawaii! Base a claim in ‘hot air’ doesn’t make it valid!

    PS: CNN why my last 20+ posts are still awaiting moderation?

  25. Yvonne
    December 15th, 2008 11:53 am ET

    What a waste of the court’s time. These people bringing these frivilous lawsuit are just sore losers. What a tragedy these people cannot accept and support President elect Obama.

  26. Terry, Dallas Texas
    December 15th, 2008 11:55 am ET

    Enough already. This man won the election by a huge margin and will be sworn in as POTUS in a little over a month so please just get used to it. It’s time to move on.

  27. Dr.Mimi De La Cruz
    December 15th, 2008 11:55 am ET

    THESE MENTAL DEGENERATES ARE GOING TO FILE

    A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT

    QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE IS

    “JESUS CHRIST”. THAT’S ALL THERE IS LEFT.

  28. Abyssinian Lion
    December 15th, 2008 11:56 am ET

    Isnt it time for these guys to continue the search for UFOs,Bigfoot and the Lochness monster?—-Maybe even Man,Bear,Pig?

  29. jfs Memhis, Tn
    December 15th, 2008 11:57 am ET

    I can only hope that the holiday’s are good for these racists busy bodies. We can only hope that this nonsense will be the end of a 300 year nightmare for all !!!

  30. kene
    December 15th, 2008 11:58 am ET

    Wrotnowski name dosn’t even sound like American. I think he should think before going after Obama.

  31. Allen in NC
    December 15th, 2008 11:58 am ET

    “In his appeal, Wrotnowski claimed that because Obama’s father was a Kenyan-born British subject, the president-elect does meet the Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born citizen” of the United States.”

    Did we leave out a “not”?

  32. Christian
    December 15th, 2008 11:58 am ET

    Something “historic” about this man. At least, he is a Christian, and a regular churchgoer, with absolute moral standards: Absolute honesty, absolute purity, absolute unselfishness and absolute love.

  33. Richard Komi
    December 15th, 2008 11:59 am ET

    When people want to be in the news, they should look for positive things that would put them in the news. I believe that Wrotnowski wants to make news but unfortunately he is telling the natiopn that he does not know what he is doing. Our president-elect was born in Hawii and that is sufficient to make him a natural born United States citizen. Wrotnowski should look for positive things that will attract our attention as this is a time our nation has serious issues to deal with such as the mortgage melt down and the probems of wall street and the auto bailout. On the other hand, if Wrotnowski wants to be funny he should consider joinning Satuday night live.

  34. TK
    December 15th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

    CNN fixed your content…you forgot a word…pretty important to the entire story.

    “…the president-elect does meet the Constitution’s requirement that …”

    “…the president-elect does NOT meet the Constitution’s requirement that …”

  35. Chris
    December 15th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

    This guy’s great great great great grandma wasn’t born here, therefore he isn’t a US citizen either.

    really, sometimes i’m embarrased to call myself an American.

  36. bbbb3JUQ5e8L
    December 15th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

    It’s very clear what the settled meaning of natural-born citizen is, and Obama does not meet the criteria. He did NOT post his original birth certificate on the Net.

    This, combined with the frauds of his financing and election, make him a usurper. I fear the coming months.

  37. Dennis Mathis
    December 15th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

    He was born on US soil. Where could the problem possibly be?
    Unless you are a native american indian your roots are positively outside the natural borders of this country. Remember that when you are trying to boot a US citizen on some technically challenged point. May we all moce on now?

  38. Larry Houston, Texas
    December 15th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

    This is the Biggest Bunch of B.S. I’ve ever heard of, in my entire life !!!
    That is like saying that everyone in the United States is Illegal !!!
    Except for the American Indians that are on those Reservations !!!

    Where in the heck do they THINK we came from ?? How about the Pilgrims, that landed on Plymouth Rock, for pity’s sake !!! Christopher Columbus ? I can go on & on, & on, regarding this….
    There’s more idiots in the United Stats than I realized, I guess…

    Larry C.
    Houston, Texas

  39. Qodhob!
    December 15th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

    “Here we go again” It is un-fortunate to see this kind of behavior against the President elected continued. These laweyers ought to be ashamed of themselves too.
    God have mercy on all of us!!!!

  40. Carolyn Greene
    December 15th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

    I really wish these malcontents would stop trying to pick Barack Obama apart. In my intire life I have never seen anyone so examined for unimportant, little nit-picky things. If these people had have put this kind of interest in the financial system they trusted their money to instead of the mud-slinging gossip they are engaged in now , the country would not be in the fix it is in now. Get over it. He is our new president to be . He was elected fair and square. You had your chance. So now let us give him a chance to show what he can do.

  41. Angie-OHIO
    December 15th, 2008 12:02 pm ET

    the losers that keep beinging these cases need to get a life. face it PRESIDENT ELECT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS GOING TO BE PRESIIDENT.

  42. oh brother ...
    December 15th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

    I bet If you go back far enough, you’ll find some of our American Presidents that were born to immigrants. ..what a waste of time !!!

  43. Jose
    December 15th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

    Who cares he won let it go.

  44. Greg, San Francisco, CA
    December 15th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

    Naturally all the right wing wackos will claim a conspiracy against the truth and continue to believe that Obama is not a citizen, Elvis is alive and the Loch Ness monster is a CIA plot. Time to take off the tin foil hat - it’s not helping.

  45. a Kenyan who is very amused by the ignorance of some Americans
    December 15th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

    get over it…an African AMerican is going to be president whether these lunatics want it or not…….my goodness these people need to get a life.

  46. sunshine
    December 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

    this nonsense is one of the major things wrong with our country, every thing is sensationalized to the point that we confuse the truths with pure fabracation. Bless our new president.

  47. mark
    December 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

    does wrotnowski sound US hmmmmm doe she need to be deported

  48. Ex-Republican
    December 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

    These people are idiots. Typical republicans…40 years behind the times. It will be a great day when the republican party DIES!

  49. Dal Californian
    December 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

    Sour grapes!!!!
    Are we looking at it because a human being like OBAMA beat the crap out of a white man in the election. If that is the case then America needs to grow up fast in this multi- ethenic/cultural world of today. These guys have their heads buried in sands of 1900.

  50. Jen
    December 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

    People just need to give it up… geesh.. you think he would have gotten this far if it was not legally born in USA and an american citizen and can legally be a President of our Country?? You know Republicans would have taken him on long long ago and won if it was a not!! some people are just plain dumb and want attention!

  51. BS not Maverick
    December 15th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

    Hey dude if you want to waste money give it to me, Ill waste it for you!~

  52. mike
    December 15th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

    You can be born in the white house oval office, be a USA citizen and still not be eligible to run for President. That is the issue with Obama. He had TWO citizenships at Birth and the constitution basically says that when it comes to running for president you can’t have dual allegiance.
    A different issue, Obama has NEVER shown his long form birth certificate. For $12 dollars he could clear that up but instead he hired THREE law firms.
    Clearly hiding something, don’t you think?

  53. Give me a break
    December 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

    The question really is, where was he born? Why does he have two names Barry and Barack.

    Come on, just show us the Birth Certificate!

  54. RichMo
    December 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

    Please don’t mix Cort Wrotnowski’s case with Berg’s. Doesn’t matter where he was born since he admittedly held dual-citizenship at birth. (also on Obama’s factcheck.org) AT BIRTH. Not Narural-born. if there is admitted dual-citizenship, there’s nothing NATURAL about it.

    The Supreme Court chose not to rule on Obama’s Natural-Born Status. They voted “present”. Possible SCOTUS is afraid of upholding their oath? Can’t say.

    If the electors “rubber-stamp” Obama & don’t uphold their oath, to faithfully support the Constitution, then NOT ONE of them will request more clarity on Obama’s admitted dual-citizenship AT BIRTH. Precident will be set. The first admitted dual-citizen at birth will be elected POTUS.

    Half the country will know this when Mr. Obama places his hand on the Bible Jan 20. How can he take an oath he’s admittedly broken? No doubt, every Law, every Executive Order, every military action will be brought back to SCOTUS. This is not to be taken lightly.

  55. Hilary
    December 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

    Well, hell. My mom was born in New York; my dad was born in London; I was born in California. I guess I’m not a “natural born citizen” either. LOL.

  56. Noah
    December 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

    This is a pathetic attempt to interupt and cheapen a phenomenal moment in American history.

    With all the issues facing our country, both domestically and abroad, to focus one’s energy and use the time of the highest court in the United States on such asinine inquisitions is the denition of waste.

    I commend the Supreme Court for their haste in rejecting this baseless plea.

    I submit to Mr. Wrotnowski that there exist a nearly infinte number of more important issues than a concern for the legitimacy of President-Elect Obama’s citizenship. Further I suggest that should Mr. Wrotnowski choose to simply remove his head from the sand, such issues would present themselves with stunning clarity.

    - Noah Domnitz, Milwaukee, WI.

  57. Irma in North Carolina
    December 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

    All these people trying to start this are nothing bunch of racits and they need to be brought down on their knees.

  58. JL
    December 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

    Since when is Hawaii a foreign cuontry. How many times does this crap need to be debunked. If you go by the criteria the right wing-nuts are trying to set, no one outside of full-blooded native americans would be eligible to be president.

    Obama won. He’s black. Get over it.

  59. Jim
    December 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

    It is apparent that none of people commenting here are familiar with the issue. Obama did not prove his Hawaiian birth. He provided a non-legal “Certificate Of Live Birth” was not the required birth certificate. If Obama was born in Hawaii why not provide a real birth certificate?

  60. Joe Six-Pack
    December 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

    Wrotnowski was not questioning whether Obama was a citizen. His claim is that Obama did not meet the higher constitutional requirement to become president- that of being a “natural born citizen”. The only place that term is used in US law is in the constitutional requiremnent for president, and to the founders it had a very specific meaning, whcih is lost or not dicussed in this article.

    Wrotnowski also proposes that Obama gave up his citizenship when he was adopted by his step father in Indonesia. This claim may actually be pretty strong.

    I suspect this issue will dog Obama’s presidencey. Whether for or against Obama, the best situation will be for someone to review this issue. At this point the electors have the right to question his eligibility, then in January congress can question it.

  61. mike
    December 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

    To Salt, so what you just said means all Osama Bin Laden needs to do is have a child in the USA and then spend $1billion and make his son president.

    Read the constitution before you make insane remarks.

  62. Steve
    December 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

    This guys argument may or may not stand up to legal scrutiny. It doesn’t matter because the Supreme Court refuses to consider the matter for fear of causing a consititution problem. Phil Berg of Pennsylvania actually has a different argument. That is, regardless of Obama’s previous status as a “natural born” citizen, the fact that he enrolled at one time at an Indonesian school makes him a “naturalized” citizen. Indonesian laws at that time requires people who enrolled at their schools be citizens of Indonesia. That means Obama’s mom had to get Obama a dual citizenship at that time. The problem is, the United States does NOT recognize dual citizenship, ergo, from USA’s perspective, Obama actually gave up his citizenship then. When he had his citizenship reinstated upon returning to Hawaii, he became a “naturalized” citizen. By law, naturalized citizens can NOT be the President of the United States. That is the argument against Obama’s eligibility for POTUS.

  63. Jeff in Illinois
    December 15th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

    I think I’ll file a lawsuit that Cort Wrotnowski is not a U.S. citizen because the third letter of his first name is an “R”. Its just as logical as the one he filed.

  64. Jeff
    December 15th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

    Regardless of whether he had dual citizenship or not, he was born in the United States. Even if both of his parents were illegal immigrants from Timbuktu and China, if he was born on American soil, within our borders, then he’s a Natural Born US Citizen.

    All the people need to stop grabbing at straws, and start using their heads. My compliments to the Supreme Court for not justifying this stupid, frivolous lawsuit with a hearing.

  65. Kenneth
    December 15th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

    Funny how they never questioned McCain, who was born on a military base outside the continental US, or even the countless other presidential candidates throughout history whose parents were immigrants. Folks, this is what racism looks like.

  66. OhioMOM1
    December 15th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

    Yep, these folks are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

  67. paul (staunch Moderate)
    December 15th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

    It’s time for jokers like this to pay heavy fines for bringing frivolous charges such as this. Doing so could quickly clear up crowded dockets of the overburdened court system.

  68. Greg, San Francisco, CA
    December 15th, 2008 12:11 pm ET

    I demand to see Philip Berg’s birth certificate! When he produces a certified copy (I was born in PA and you get a certified copy while the original stays on file) I will bring a counter lawsuit stating he has no right to file a lawsuit on the Supreme Court because he can’t produce an original birth certificate and is not an American citizen. The only way to fight the lunatic fringe is with their own medicine.

  69. mona
    December 15th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

    I have a question for Mr. Berg..You say PE Obama was actually born in Kenya, well how do you know that? Were you there in the actual hospital room at the precise moment of PE Obama’s birth? This is just insanity. I don’t care where this great man was born, I just care about how he will help us and this nation we live in.

  70. Cory
    December 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

    They should just leave the Barrack alone. The Constitution clearly states that if you were born in the U.S. then you are a citizen. Even of neither of his parents were not U.S. citizens it would not matter. He was born in Hawaii; it is a U.S. state.

  71. obama-mama
    December 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

    This nut job apparently has too much time on his hands. Why don’t he find something contructive to do.

  72. a southern bell.
    December 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

    THE DESCENDANTS OF THOSE THAT OBJECTED TO THE

    ABOLITION OF SLAVERY & THE DISMANTLING OF THE

    THIRD REICH SHOULD JUST TRY TO MOVE ON OR MOVE OUT.

  73. Mickie
    December 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

    If we allow illegal aliens from Mexico to have babies here on our tax dollars and then consider the babies citizens, then why are they even questioning Obama’s citizenship?

  74. call me crazy
    December 15th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

    WOW!!! It’s over.Obama won now lets get things running again in this country!!!Do you idiots understand that ????

  75. big daddy
    December 15th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

    This guy should get a day job !!! What a clown…………..

  76. Retired Army in San Antonio
    December 15th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

    Desperate people resorting to desperate measures.

    Hey people…….he produced a birth certificate, he won the election, he’s gonna be the POTUS, GET OVER IT!!

    OH…..and have a nice day :-D …….

  77. Dennis
    December 15th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

    Sounds like the Supreme Court gave this case the amount of attention it deserved: 0.

  78. J. Madison
    December 15th, 2008 12:15 pm ET

    Why had Obama hired two law firms (not lawyers, but firms) to keep his birth certificate out of the public eye. Wouldn’t it be better if he just showed it and cleared up the courts time. What’s he hiding? Also, Hawaii issued him a “certificate of live birth” which is different from the regular birth certificate. It was given to those born outside the country. No problem if your mom or dad is a U.S. citizen. But Obama’s mom gave up her citizenship. And his day was Kenyan. Look on YouTube and you’ll even see his Kenyan grandma bragging about watching him be born in Kenya. Now that I’ve made most of you mad, I still think Obama should be president. The courts should, however, clear this up so no member of a foreign state, like Russia, could come and run for president. The way elections have become about “image” vs. issues, the populace needs protected from itself.

  79. Steve, Jacksonville, Fl
    December 15th, 2008 12:16 pm ET

    Barack Obama won. He is our President. Get over it. I don’t care if he was born on Mars.

  80. Michael
    December 15th, 2008 12:17 pm ET

    The conservative communications infrastructure will try any method to discredit a Democratic President. It’s sad to see a philosophy that was once embraced by great men hijacked by intellectually bankrupt hacks.

  81. john
    December 15th, 2008 12:17 pm ET

    I’m wondering if all these comments in defense of Barrack were made by the same people also during Dan Rather’s expose of George’s National Guard duty during the Vietnam war. I think so ! It’s part of the double standard that dominates politics today.

  82. blaising
    December 15th, 2008 12:17 pm ET

    Blow me Southern White Guy Party. You lost…get over it.

  83. Bob
    December 15th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

    The law is the law Ronald Reagan said it best “Trust but varify”

  84. Cat Robison
    December 15th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

    What is extremely disturbing is how many under-educated people there are in this country that will not take the time to read the Constitution. They are blinded by the medias representation of this Man( not a god). What happened to real men that stood up for what this country means. Guess there aren’t any left.

  85. liz
    December 15th, 2008 12:20 pm ET

    He has a birth certificate from Hawaii, He was born in the United States. Get over it. McCain Lost. Obama won, lets try to HEAL this country so we are not doomed to failure.

  86. bill from pa
    December 15th, 2008 12:20 pm ET

    I think the tin foil hats are getting to tight on some Republicans. Time to give it up already

  87. Chevy56
    December 15th, 2008 12:21 pm ET

    Stop being jealous

  88. Janet -NY
    December 15th, 2008 12:21 pm ET

    What is Supreme Court’s duties ? Make sure to interpret and explain the laws. I don’t understand why U.S.S.Ct has twice rejected a second emergency appeal questioning Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president without any explain. I have not accepted that Obama is
    my president because a lots of negative questions remain in my mind, but I should admit he is the president in U.S. I’ve highly expected that the S. Ct clearly explain the reason to dismiss.

  89. Todd
    December 15th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

    I agree that idiocy like this is a waste of our courts’ time. It just shows how desperate people can work hard to avoid reality due to their own prejuidices and narrow-minded viewpoints, instead of working hard with everyone else to try and make this a better country than it is now.

  90. Randy
    December 15th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

    To A Really Conservative Realist, who wrote “There are lots of other good reasons other than this foolishness why BO should not be President. But alas, the America of today is a strange bird indeed. All these reasons were trumped by a vote.”
    Name some of these reasons. If you spout off the pre-election retoric that has been proven false, the you haven’t moved forward.
    PE Barak Obama will be our president, for all of the right reasons. He is person we elected to do this job. People need to get behind him and support his inititives. None of us can forsee the future, but we can start in a new direction and turn this country around. Better our alliances and our place in the free world. No matter what, we will learn from the process.

  91. Lilarose in Bandon, Oregon
    December 15th, 2008 12:23 pm ET

    CNN is desparate for news right now, so they are going to milk this story for all its worth….

    Nothing, actually, but CNN will find something to bring up

    Again and again and again

  92. HelpTheAmericanPeople
    December 15th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

    He must have alot of time on his hands up their in Greenwich,CT.
    I remember another retired Lawyer tried the same thing and lost.
    Obama is an American citizen .
    For some of these idiots that call themselves lawyers you thing with the advent of the Newspaper and cable tv newscast they would know
    that the media checked this out along time ago and Obama is American and born in Hawaii which is part of the United States of America the last time I heard.
    These idiots need to not be given the light of day the Supreme Court should use their time wisely.
    This is a waste of Tax payer dollars.

  93. CHANGE HAS COME TO AMERICA - FINALLY!!!
    December 15th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

    this is what righ-wings nuts like the rush limbaughs and the sean hannitiy’s get a blow hard on; despising and hating every american citizens who has different a name and raised in foreign culture.

    we are all one american. not red or blue or black or white america. enough already.

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    GET USED TO IT DIMWITS!

  94. Carl Justus
    December 15th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

    The so called right wing of the Grand oil party will stoop to any level to try to disparge anyone they do not like or has beat them in an election. They say nothing about McCain being born in Panama. Obama’s mother was an American citizen and that is enough to make him an American citizen even if he was born in a foreign country, unless some extra ordinary circumstances were involved.
    They –the grear oil party–and their so called leadership could not lead a dog on a leash down the street with kind of dignity or being straight forward about it.

  95. Nat
    December 15th, 2008 12:25 pm ET

    Um, Give Me A Break, you need to give me a break! Ever heard of something called a nickname?

  96. Mark in AZ
    December 15th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

    mona, you SHOULD care where the President was born. The Constitution requires it. That said, I do believe Obama is eligible and these lawsuit-pushers are kooks.
    Great man??? That’s a stretch. He’s maybe a great speaker (at least with a script), but great man? He hasn’t accomplished one single great thing in his life. And before you tell us that getting elected Prez is a great thing, remember that GWB did it, too. Twice!

  97. Janey
    December 15th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

    No one will ever know the truth about anything Obama because MSM refuse to vet him.

  98. Jim in Raleigh
    December 15th, 2008 12:27 pm ET

    I am tired of all the idiots. We were shown copies of Obama’s birth certificate several times during the election process. It shows he was born in the U.S. People, get a life. Give it up. You lost. The people have spoken. He is a U.S. citizen. Period.

  99. Get over it....he's an American!!
    December 15th, 2008 12:27 pm ET

    CNN…

    you should have put the McCain may not pick Palin for President story as the one to comment on.

    That would’ve blown up your in box!

  100. DonaldD
    December 15th, 2008 12:27 pm ET

    Kenneth - McCain was questioned about the location of his birth. He produced his birth certificate and showed the portion of the law that details how a child born to US citizens outside the US is a natural-born citizen.

    And the reason people question Obama’s birth is the fact that his paternal grandmother has said that he was born in Kenya, that she was in the delivery room.

    It also makes folks wonder when they find that Kenya has sealed any medical records of Obama in Kenya.

    I think he is probably a citizen, but has something on his birth certificate he does not want to come out, otherwise, why not release the long form, which is much more detailed, than the short form, which even Hawaii will not accept for some state programs?

  101. MWA
    December 15th, 2008 12:27 pm ET

    These idiots are arguing one of convenience. Obama’s not a citizen because they say he’s not (read: because he’s black). Do you think anyone would be challenging McCain’s citizenship (even though he was actually born in Latin America, no because he’s white). The people who filed lawsuits challenging Obama’s birthright are racists. Plain and simple. As salt says, it does not matter where your parents are born. If you are born in the U.S. you are a U.S. citizen. These sue-happy folks would just as soon litigate against illegal immigrants whose children were born in the U.S., only there are too many of them. Hmm…12 million illegal immigrants times two kids (conservative estimate)…let’s see you deport at least 24 million legal citizens now you morons.

  102. BUSH BEGONE!
    December 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

    And dittoheads wonder why the repug party is in the dumper, stupid an tics such as this would be a good start.

  103. Patrick
    December 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

    Since when is measuring a future president against the requirements of the constitution considered stupidity? Where was this man born? It is a simple question. I don’t think the courts should say we can’t have the answer. Is somebody hiding something? It would take less time for all of us if the courts would just do the research and be done with it. There would be no more questions.

  104. Piere
    December 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

    Why won’t Obama just produce an original birth certificate that’s authentic and be done with it.? Obama’s grandmother says she he was born in Kenya as his mother was detained and not allowed to fly back for the birth due to advanced pregnancy. Why not just be open and show the proof of US birth and be done with it?

    One thing is certain, the constitution must be followed - even if it disqualifies Hillary to be Sec. of State given she voted for her own pay raise as Senator. If the Constitution is not followed that will lead to bigger problems in other situations.

  105. Sara
    December 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

    Just, LOL!

    People need hobbies.

  106. Veronica
    December 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

    Shocking! Uh, no, not really. Sometime’s people been to be beat, repeatedly, about their empty heads before they MAY catch on. It is abundantly obvious that Wrotnowski has entirely too much time on his hands and that he’s too ignorant to see the truth, right in front of his face.

    I think this would fall under a ‘frivolous lawsuit.’

  107. Dee
    December 15th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

    These people are so silly. Even if this were to go through, Biden (DEMOCRAT) would still be interim president, and Obama would surely be appointed high up in the administration. No matter what these people try to do, Obama isn’t going away any time soon. Get used to it!

  108. Elaine
    December 15th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

    Then I guess the real Americans are the Indians…

  109. Heidi
    December 15th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

    Is anyone else enraged that, with the current economic crisis, these conspiracy theorists think frivilous, baseless lawsuits are a good use of our taxpayer dollars?

    P.S. If you want to know how much credibility the people bringing these lawsuits have, search “Philip J. Berg.” He’s a disgruntled Hillary supporter, 9-11 “truther,” and has been successfully sued for legal malpractice, fined $10,000 for bringing frivilous lawsuits (*gasp), and ordered to attend ethics training!

    Is it time to tell these ridiculous people to get over it and quit wasting our time and money??

  110. BO is just B.O.
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    I researched this and the guy has a definate case. Problem is do you uphold the constitution or the presidential vote?

    This is a lose/ lose for all of us.

    This was posted earlier and is true. Look it up.
    He had TWO citizenships at Birth and the constitution basically says that when it comes to running for president you can’t have dual allegiance.

    Why not just produce the birth certificate and make it a non issue?
    Why? Because he can’t!

  111. D. Holiday - L, Town
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    It’s true. Ignorance does still carry a big stick. Raise up you idiots. “Change has come to America.”

    You had Bush for 8 years. Now it’s our turn. Don’t get too angry though because I’ll tell you what, It’s not good for your blood pressure.

    DEUCE!

  112. hillvoter
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    This is an excellent argument for abolishing the anchor baby laws.

  113. Linda K.
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    To Steve:

    Children can have dual citizenship. My husband is Thai and four of my children had dual American/Thai citizenship when they were young. Now that they’re grown, they are all U.S. citizens and have, by default, given up their dual citizenships.

  114. CHANGE HAS COME TO AMERICA - FINALLY!!!
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    the next lawsuit will probably be that Hussein Obama is not qualified to be president of the United States because his name is Hussein, or because he is black or white or rather of a mixed race? or because he fathered black babies…..

    when is the american ignorance gonna end, stupid people?!!!!

  115. Darryl
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    Sorry, Republicans, I guess having the Supreme Court force your candidate on us despite the votes has become an empty well. Guess you’re stuck with that quaint “one person - one vote” democracy.

  116. PA Independent
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    So Obama was (according to anybody rational) born on U.S. soil to an American citizen mother, but because his father was born in another country then subject to the British crown, the theory is that he is not a natural born citizen? Somebody please tell me how the Constitution, Courts, Congress or any other authority has defined “Natural Born”? That’s right, you can’t - because they haven’t. Common sense would suggest any person who was a citizen at birth is a “natural born citizen”, and since there has never been an official definition of the word….go ahead, just try to get the Supreme Court to retroactively overturn a valid election on the basis of a trumped-up argument after the fact. Ludicrous.

  117. Charlie
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    If mexican children born in the US after their mother jumps the border are considered citizens…

    I think Obama is ok.

  118. T'SAH from Virginia
    December 15th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

    CNN WRITES: …Wrotnowski claimed that because Obama’s father was a Kenyan-born British subject, the president-elect DOES MEET the Constitution’s requirement …

    Is it “DOES MEET”????? Jeez!!! Isn’t Wrotnowski the person who believes Obama DOES NOT MEET the requirements to be a US Citizen???

    ALL in ALL - Give it UP!!! Do you truly believe Obama would have gotten this far is he were not a citizen????????? Dang!

  119. Laura
    December 15th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

    I love Obama so much! He is like such like a rockstar to me! I don’t know really anything about his background, let alone his policies, but I think he is already the greatest president ever. Did I say president? I meant greatest leader of the universe. Smooches for Obama.

  120. Andy H
    December 15th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

    Steve, Berg has changed his tune at every turn trying to prove Obama isn’t a natural born citizen. The crap about Indonesia is just the latest twist. First he said he was born in Kenya and that he didn’t have a US birth certificate. So Obama produced his birth certificate, then Berg complained it was a copy (like we all get) & not the long original version. So the head of the Dept of Health for State of Hawaii said he personally had inspected Obama’s original long form birth certificate and that it was valid.

    So now Berg is trying to say that because Obama had dual citizenship as a child in Indonesia he became a naturalized citizen when he moved back to the U.S. This is crap once you are born in the U.S. you are ALWAYS a natural born citizen, you can never change that.

    The US Supreme Court refuses to hear most cases brought before it. They only see cases if they believe the lower courts erred on a point of law or procedure.

  121. Rachel
    December 15th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

    That guy needs to get a life! He needs to be watched possibly in a padded cell before he lets his brain overtax and does something foolish! I don’t know how many ways he has to be told that Obama is a U. S. Citizen. Maybe he should go back to the homeland his ancestors were born in. That name is very un-American!

  122. Tony, Memphis
    December 15th, 2008 12:32 pm ET

    Seth, Michigan December 15th, 2008 11:40 am ET

    Birth certificate and certificate of live birth are two very different things…do your research, please, before writing an asinine statement like the one above.

    Actually Seth, maybe you should do some research. A certificate of Live Birth IS a Hawaiian ‘Birth Certificate’…

  123. SOUTHERN HOTTIE
    December 15th, 2008 12:32 pm ET

    SUCKIEST HOLIDAY SEASON EVER!

  124. Joe, Chicago IL
    December 15th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

    The HI ‘long form’ has not been released to the public. HI, through the 60s, has issued foreign born children to US citizens, HI birth certificates.

    The ‘long form’ contains the doctor’s signature for children born in HI. If not born in HI, the country of birth is listed. Releasing the ‘long form’ will take care of any questions regarding eligibility.

    Since Kenya has ’sealed’ all of Obama’s records and the original HI form posted by Obama’s campaign was a copy of a form issued in 1972, there is sufficient question to ask for proof since all we have is Obama’s word that he is a citizen.

    McCain had to produce his proof of citizenship in the 2000 elections. There was much furor regarding whether he was born on a US military base in Panama or off site. The question was asked in 2000 and McCain released his records.

    All Obama has to do is release his ‘long form’ and there will be no question he is legit. By not releasing the long form and sealing all of his Kenyan records, you have to question, why?

    Knowing how CNN moderates these forums…this will not be posted.

  125. ricki
    December 15th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

    Why does the President Elects’ paternal grandmother claim he was born in Kenya and she witnessed the birth? It doesn’t change my belief that B. O. is still the future prez but why would she say that?

  126. Matt
    December 15th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

    How much taxpayer money is being wasted on this? These people need to get their tin foil hat covered heads examined.

  127. Uncle Fester
    December 15th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

    Frivilous lawsuit, anyone? Your tax dollars at work

  128. Maggie from Virginia
    December 15th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

    Give it up already… The man is going to be president. Yep, we will have a black president. If you can’t deal with it, there’s always suicide.

  129. proud army and navy mom
    December 15th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

    to jim and others,

    please get a life. PE Obama is our president, and if you don’t like it, you can exit the country anytime. ok?

  130. Chevy56
    December 15th, 2008 12:35 pm ET

    You Republicans are just mad. Because we’ve got a new Democratic Presidentioal Elect who will not allow this Country to stay on fire. Thats right, you heard what I said, “we got a new Fire Chief in town, who is going to put out this fire, that you Republicans started”
    George Bush has got more sense than ya;ll. At least he’s trying to help the Auto Industry. You Republicans are nothing. but a rehash.Trying to get all giddy, because you can’t have your way no more. Because we’ve got our Democracy back. And we don’t care what color he is, as long as he’s an Democratic Presidential Elect.

    From Chevy56

  131. Goodoldtxboy
    December 15th, 2008 12:36 pm ET

    The reason that the SCOTUS is denying these cases, is because if they took one of these cases and found out the truth, that Obama was born in Kenya and he was then pushed out of the Presidency, do you know how many crazy African Americans would be rioting and looting. Think about how nuts everyone went during the Rodney King fiasco. You can take the African American out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of the African American!!!!!!!

  132. Carli
    December 15th, 2008 12:46 pm ET

    Yes this is the same SCOTUS that put Bush in office, so Republicans need to STFU

  133. Maggie SC
    December 15th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

    What kind of evidence does this person have against the prospect of Obama not meeing USA qualifications to be president. If this guy has ireputablle proof then it is an injustice against the judge refusuing to se the proof and examining it to see if Obama is indeed a natural born citize. This is America folks. Please adhere to our Constirutiuoin in all things.

  134. Patrick
    December 15th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

    Yes, anyone who doesn’t agree with the government should kill themselves or leave the country. Are you guys serious? You think it’s that horrible to ask someone to prove that they live up to the constitutional requirements? What are the courts hiding? It should not be that hard to get a copy of the original birth cirtificate.

  135. Ex-Republican
    December 15th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

    It’s quite simple, for those with any intelligence:

    Obama doesn’t let the petty stuff bother him, nor does the supreme court. The President Elect and the SCOTUSA have given it the amount of attention it deserves, and have verified the validity of these nut jobs by their decision. It’s the USA, and the SCOTUSA has spoken. So if YOU retards, the one’s throwing out accusations, want to live by the law of this land (which you claim to be so sacred when you throw out your retarded accusations), then live up to your own beliefs you idiots! The SCOTUSA has given it’s decision, and in the CONSTITUTION…that is FINAL!

    Oh wait, the law of the land is only good when you get your way?
    Typical!

  136. Bri
    December 15th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

    Really the US looks bad enough as it is now do we really need to sue about whether Obama can be President or not…racism anyone… The elections over, even if you were able to prove he wasnt a US citizen you still have democrat in office…or we can run the race again..you think the GOP would have more support after that, right. You’d just have a bunch of pissed off citizens, and wow wouldln’t that show the Iraqi’s how lovely democracy is when we can’t make it work. Really people use your brains here or get some.

  137. E.C.Coleman
    December 15th, 2008 12:48 pm ET

    So much for the Highest Court in the United States and the due process. This situation should be investigated and heard by the Supreme Court…..so much for the ‘will of the people.’ The Supreme Court is SHAMEFUL.

  138. James in Nebraska
    December 15th, 2008 12:49 pm ET

    Is it really that bad to have a Dem in the white house? This is getting stupid.

  139. NY republican
    December 15th, 2008 12:49 pm ET

    People - it doesn’t matter if he was born on the Moon, his mother is a U.S. citizen so he is a U.S. citizen. Just as John McCain was born to U.S. citizens in Panama, so he is a U.S. citizen (OK maybe the canal zone doesn’t count, it was a U.S. holding at the time.)

  140. G.R.I.T.S. - Girl Raised in the South
    December 15th, 2008 12:50 pm ET

    To A Really Conservative Realist who said, ” There are lots of other good reasons other than this foolishness why BO should not be President…. All these reasons were trumped by a vote.”

    Your “reasons” were trumped by a lot more than “a vote”. Try millions of votes. Try a majority of votes. You should pull your really conservative head out of your really conservative A–.

  141. Deme
    December 15th, 2008 12:50 pm ET

    Isn’t that nice. BO looked it up, on the internet, no doubt. Forget about, you know the authorities in Hawaii. They have already dealt with this issue. Majority of Republicans and those that did not vote for Obama are sick and tired of this story. You are not going to stop this guy from being sworn in as the 44th President on this baseless garbage. Move on.

  142. Roy Arellano (San Antonio)
    December 15th, 2008 12:50 pm ET

    Well then I guess since both my mom was born in Mexico and my father was born in Peru (a nation which holds dual citizenship); I’m ineligible from holding a Commission from Congress to serve as a Navy Officer at the pleasure of our Commander and Chief as well as my security clearance? I guess for that matter all my service to God, Country and Corps (former US Marine, prior to Commission) didn’t count while I put my life on the line in Afghanistan for such jack-@$$es like these fellows?

    Please, to all who feel this is an issue; truly grow-up…you simple children.

    He is an American, born and raised. He is to be our next Commander and Chief, get over it; and I, a TRUE PATRIOT, will serve our nation with him as our boss, end of story.

  143. libbssuck1
    December 15th, 2008 12:50 pm ET

    The “legal experts” are the cronies of the lib side of the fence, they want this anti christ as this country’s leader. The supreme court is not supreme, it is spineless at best.

  144. Rastaman
    December 15th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

    I love the fact that people are quoting Obama’s grandmother as a source that he was born in Kenya.

    This would be great except for the fact that he WASN’T born in Kenya, and should you insist in misquoting Obama’s grandmother, please provide a link.

    All in all, I think that some RACIST people just can’t get over the fact that we have a black president. What makes me very giddy.

    Suck it ReThugs!!!!!

  145. Joel
    December 15th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

    This is absolutely insane. The PE was born in Haweii a fact not disputed by any sane person so far. He is therefore a natural born American citizen irrespective of what happened before his birth and later on in his life. He won the election and WOULD be President come January 20, 2009

  146. Immaculate conception
    December 15th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

    I didn’t realize Obama was born.

  147. Lisa V
    December 15th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

    Good grief!!! Enough already! Get over it. He is African-American, and he will be our next President.

  148. Emily
    December 15th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

    High School Government teachers hearts are sinking to their stomachs to see how many students they must have failed for this to be an issue. Now there is the scary part of all this…. our own citizens uneducated!!!

  149. Bruce
    December 15th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

    The repugs need to stop eating those sour grapes…it’s not very becoming.

  150. Terry, Lakeland Florida
    December 15th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

    I agree, if OB would just release his BC this would all be over. However he keeps everything hidden. I’m sorry but telling us we have to believe you because you say it is true doesn’t fly. Where aer your school records, where is your Long Form BC, why are your grandparents saying you were not born here? All you have to do is release the long form and all of this would go away…but you refuse….why?

  151. Denver Dem
    December 15th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

    People like Cort Wrotnowski, are horrible and stupid. Any one who keeps pushing this point is wasting tax payer money. They should be locked up and sodomized by felons.

  152. tc6789
    December 15th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

    BO will not release his full medical records. he will not release his Columbia transcripts, application, etc… Same with Harvard Law. Could it be that in those records he place of birth is recorded as Kenya? Surprised the media didn’t demand such records be produced. oh wait, no I’m not…

  153. WOW - Irving, TX and Women for Obama
    December 15th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME….GET A LIFE PEOPLE….OBMAMA IS OUR PRESIDENT, SO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO………

  154. Robert of Long Island
    December 15th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

    Obama will be the president of all Americans!

    RACIST or not, he will be your president! There is nothing you can do about it since it was already decided on Nov. 4th.

    365 electoral votes!

  155. Merry
    December 15th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

    My mom was born in the U.S. I was born in another country, I am a U.S. citizen, but would not qualify to run or be president because I am not a “Natural Born” citizen.

  156. Sue T
    December 15th, 2008 12:55 pm ET

    Believe me if Obama was hiding anything you don’t think it wouldn’t have been found out and brought out into the open for all to see and know before the election? There is nothing he is hiding, it is all of you rasicts people that can’t stand it that a black man is going to be our next President…….and most of you racists are republicans………besides you republicans will dog any democat president till his last day in office just like you did the Clintons……..and don’t throw it in our faces that we didn’t give Bush a fair chance……we did but then he screwed it up and not only demorcats but republicans and independents alike came down on him….the GOP are sore losers and you have NO new ideas about getting this country back on track, so sit back and shut up or get the heck out of this country, because we don’t need your kind here……….

  157. Al Gore
    December 15th, 2008 12:55 pm ET

    @Abyssinian Lion
    Don’t mock me! Man-Bear-Pig is real! I’m totally cerial!

  158. john parsons
    December 15th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

    Continually, the so-called expects and name callers are somehow so smitten with the selectee, disregarding his $millions spent to not show his original; his other various records being withheld from public viewing along with they’re not knowing what types of criteria HI used in ’58-’73, giving out what is now commonly referred to as ‘birth certificates’, let along reading the Constitutional criteria for a ‘natural born’, than when some legal entity takes up the issue, they’ll look like the dunces they pretend not to be – daily. $12.00 & ‘show us the beef’. He’s going there for Xmas isn’t he? Sow the original,THEN, it’s end of the story. Otherwise – for as long as he’s in office. 8 moare years …

  159. No Hillary = No Obama
    December 15th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

    When this governor of Illinois starts singing to save his neck it will open up a can of worms and questioning Obama’s citizenship will pale in comparison.

  160. Stacy from Loudoun County VA
    December 15th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

    Wow…another Obama is not a Citizen claim? His birth certificate was on file on Krypton Mr. Wrotnowski, but it got destroyed….seriously, this halfwit could be doing something constructive with his time instead of going to the SCOTUS with this garbage.

  161. Lisa V
    December 15th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

    “Many legal analysts questioned Wrotnowski’s argument.” Geez, you think!? Are these nut jobs and others going to keep this up over the next eight years?

  162. Dan
    December 15th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

    Janey — No one will ever know the truth about anything Obama because MSM refuse to vet him.

    ———————————————————————————————-

    Yup, Janey, you’re absolutely right! Did you know that Obama is actually brothers with the Bat Boy that gets so much coverage in Weekly World News? But the stupid MSM won’t cover that story, no.

    Give me a break, idiot. Or did you happen to forget all the stories prying into his background over the last year and a half?

  163. NY republican
    December 15th, 2008 12:58 pm ET

    PA independant - Actually the Constitution is very clear on the definition of “natural born citizen. There is also quite a bit of case law on the subject.

  164. Ashley
    December 15th, 2008 12:59 pm ET

    Seems like the GOP can’t get over losing.. sad but true..

  165. chris
    December 15th, 2008 12:59 pm ET

    im a republican and this crap just needs to stop already…obama is our president……even if they found that he wasnt born here, which lets face it is a stupid rule( why shouldnt a naturalized citizen be just as worthy?) theres not much that can be done about it now…..lets just see where he takes the country during his tenure and hope that his ideas and policies dont make things even worse…

  166. Lauren the Designer
    December 15th, 2008 1:00 pm ET

    @ Laura…

    Grow up.

  167. Peter (CA)
    December 15th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

    Haven’t you right-wingers taken your medicine yet?
    He was born in Hawaii and that makes him a citizen.
    The certificate of live birth is all the State of Hawaii issues. The original certificate is in a vault. Officials of the state certified that it is legal and binding.
    And…wow….Barrack is his birth name. He called himself Barry because it sounded more American.
    Now hurry on down to Target…they are having a sale on tin foil for your new hats.

  168. Size 10 shoe
    December 15th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

    I guess some people have nothing better to than to dig for something that does not exist (like water in the Sahara). Let’s plan for the inauguration and pray that this elected man will try to find a way to dig us out of the mess we are in.

  169. Terry, Lakeland Florida
    December 15th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

    mona December 15th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

    I have a question for Mr. Berg..You say PE Obama was actually born in Kenya, well how do you know that? Were you there in the actual hospital room at the precise moment of PE Obama’s birth? This is just insanity. I don’t care where this great man was born, I just care about how he will help us and this nation we live in.
    ———————————
    He knows this BECAUSE Obama’s grandparents SAID he was born in Kenya….please tell me why Obama’s GRANDPARTENTS would lie about it?

    How about you read up on the case BEFORE you comment!!

  170. Deme
    December 15th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

    First it was a copy of his birth certificate, which he provided, because NO ONE gets the original, not even the President. Now it’s the long form, that will just provide addtional information which is not relevant as to the place of his birth. You’re just looking for something, anything, and I’m glad he is no longer playing into this sick and tired game. The courts decided correctly, by stating there is no issue here. The Supreme Court looked at the decision(s) (all the information) provided by the lower court and concluded that there was no irregularities. But that is not enough. Next , it should be the round form, or the white form, or maybe it is not in the correct type or format. He would not have made it out of the starter block if there was serious doubt about his citizenship. The Bush Administration would have blown the lid off this, if they knew it would get McCain elected. Let it go.

  171. Cruzan Obama Mama
    December 15th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

    Didn’t the rest of us SUCK IT UP & MOVE ON, when Bush stole his elections. Get over it. Since the Repubs are the authority on being American or Un-American, then isn’t rejecting the will of the people very, very UN-AMERICAN?

    Time to be adult about your loss and start helping to heal the US right now. YIKES!!!!!!

  172. Jordanes
    December 15th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

    “Somebody please tell me how the Constitution, Courts, Congress or any other authority has defined ‘Natural Born’?”

    The U.S. Congress has defined “natural born citizen” in Title 8 of the U.S. Code, Section 1401, which says the following people are “citizens of the United States at birth”: anyone born inside the U.S.; any Indian or Eskimo born in the U.S., provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe; anyone born outside the U.S., both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.; anyone born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national; anyone born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year; anyone found in the U.S. under the age of 5, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21; anyone born outside the U.S., if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time); a final, historical condition: a person born before 24 May 1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    That means Obama is a U.S. citizen, since the State of Hawaii says he was born there. Wrotnowski’s constitutional argument is interesting, but it doesn’t actually have anything to do with real life.

  173. Pam Holt Los Angeles, CA
    December 15th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

    This is so desperate and disgusting.

  174. Chris in NC
    December 15th, 2008 1:03 pm ET

    If he wasn’t a citizen don’t you people think the folks in power would have blocked his election? If legitimate evidence existed it would have come out by now. Stop crying over McCain’s loss and deal with the fact America was tired of Bushism and wanted a change!

  175. Alwin
    December 15th, 2008 1:03 pm ET

    Actually, what CNN failed to report, is this guy is questioning both Barack Obama and John McCain’s eligibility to be president. He’s not just questioning Barack’s (even though he is the president-elect). Either way, I think he needs to just suck it up and stop. Wasting taxpayer money during these times is not only unnecessary, it’s complete BS. Leave both of the guys alone and let’s get on with trying to fix our great nation, how about that?

  176. Brett
    December 15th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

    Pretty simple - if you have a parent who is a U.S. Citizen when you are born, you are a “natural-born” U.S. Citizen regardless of the location in which you were actually born. A friend of mine was born in South Africa to an American mother and he’s just as “natural-born” as anyone born inside the country to an American mother.

  177. Kate
    December 15th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

    What a wacko. I think these right wingers have officially lost their minds. I find it amusing!

  178. Shari, NY
    December 15th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

    Aren’t there better things to do? I guess not. I did not vote for Bush and I am still standing. Get a life!!!!!

  179. yellow dog democrat
    December 15th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

    Please quit reporting on this as “news” - it only fuels the fire for those who are looking for any excuse to accept that a black man has been voted for and won the Presidency of the United States. Everytime this issue comes up - I have to hear - “did your hear that Obama is not an American??” - aaaaarrgggghhhh.

  180. Alice Newman Center Harbor NH
    December 15th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

    People who believe this nonsense about Obama and his birth certificate certainly have concrete opinions: all mixed up and permanently set! No facts will ever convince them.

    The GOP hasn’t even accepted that the election is over and Obama has won! There national committee has so much money left over, they are now running negative (the party of fear and smear) campaign ads against Obama - trying to tie him to that slimy Governor!

    Do they know the election is over or is the GOP going to waste another 8 years as sulking obstructionists!

    I wonder how many good things could be accomplished if those who are spending all their time and treasure trying to drag Obama down would invest the same in making a positive contribution to working with him to solve our challenges???

    You are either part of the problem or part of the solution!!

  181. Lauren
    December 15th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

    B.O. just wondering, where does it “basically” say in the Constitution that you can’t have dual citizenship at the time of birth and be president? I thought it only says “no person except a natural born citizen, or a u.s. citizen…” Does that mean a U.S. citizen who had dual citizenship at the time of birth can’t be president? Just wondering. I’m no expert on this topic, but I’d potentially be swayed if, say, the Supreme Court has interpreted it that way.

  182. NY republican
    December 15th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

    Why is it with you Democrats that when one person files a law suit, the ENTIRE opposition party becomes “ignorant, dimwitted, wingnuts”. Democrats “the party of TOLERENCE”?

  183. Jean2
    December 15th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

    GIVE IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  184. Cybersport
    December 15th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

    mike, get a life…….

  185. NY republican
    December 15th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

    Why is it with you Democrats that when one person files a law suit, the ENTIRE opposition party becomes “ignorant, dimwitted, wingnuts”. Democrats “the party of TOLERENCE”? Oh, sorry, I forgot to add “racist” to the list

  186. Donna
    December 15th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

    Though I did not vote for President Elect Barack Obama, I must say this: Don’t you think this was all checked out before he had even begun to run? I mean realy, people come on this is a totaly pointless lawsuit.

  187. Hall for Obama
    December 15th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

    Cort Wrotnowski is not a citizen of the USA because his name is not Running Bear or Little Eager. Maybe we need to ask him to leave the USA. The only true American are the Indians. I guess Mr. Cort Wrotnowski want me to pull off my shoe and aim for his hard head.

  188. Ms. Jenny
    December 15th, 2008 1:09 pm ET

    The Constitution doesn’t say that one must AT MOST be a US citizen by birth. It says that one must AT LEAST be a US citizen by birth. The Constitution does NOT say that having another citizenship ON TOP of ones US citizenship makes one ineligible.

  189. Dennis
    December 15th, 2008 1:11 pm ET

    The US does not recoginize dual or multi citizenship. Just google “US dual citizenship” and you will see. So BO was not a dual citizen at birth.

    This situation is rediculous. It’s like saying to BO prove you were not speeding on the highway on March 7 1993. Go ahead prove you weren’t speeding. The plaintiff has to support sufficient evidence to have a case heard and obviously.

    I worked in Vital Statistics, vital records are not available for public scrutiny. Even if he did produce the long form they would make up some other lies.

  190. the kid
    December 15th, 2008 1:11 pm ET

    Obama may be president however that does not answer the question is he a natural born citizen…. you can bet your sweet a– if McCain didn,t produce his record that Obama would be just screaming foul. how ever C N N and the other reporters have chosen this dingbat to be your president,,,,,, Dont look for any one of these people to do any digging into this matter…..JOHN KING,,, ROLAND MARTIN AND SCHIENDLER SHOULD ALL BE BOOTED OFF THE AIR ..

    I ASK THE C N N DO SOME DIGGING AND REMOVE THESE PEOPLE FOR THE DISHONOR THAT THEY PRODUCED FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE C N N THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT NOW ARE YOU GOING TO BACK THESE JERKS OR ARE YOU GOING TO
    CAN THEM, OR GIVE THEM SOME RAT HOLE STORIES TO REPORT ON.

  191. mooney
    December 15th, 2008 1:12 pm ET

    Let us pray that the truth about how crooked Obama is along with his chicago thug/criminal friends comes to light…god reveals all evil.

  192. carment
    December 15th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

    CNN might as well add aticles on the flat earth theory, man did not land on the moon, and the Loch Ness monster for discussion. This “fake birth certificate” codswallop falls into the same category

  193. JL
    December 15th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

    Can some one please tell me WHY is it that white America so unwilling to show love? Why always showing so much HATE?

  194. RichMo
    December 15th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

    You’re telling us NO ONE posted a comment on this from 12:34 to 12:58. Wow.
    Here’s one I know was submitted:
    CNN SHOW US YOUR STUFF! You can do it! Use Time Warner’s resources to file the report of the millenium.
    Here’s a start:
    1) hire an intern. Give them a small per-diem, airfare/car budget, camera & producer.
    2) give them til Jan 5 to answer natural-born questions.
    3) Grow journalistic courage.

  195. Ilona Hussein Proud Canadian
    December 15th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

    Sorry folks,

    My turn to correct…………..

    PENALIZING THESE amarter THAN MOST…(typo)
    should read….

    PENALIZING THESE SMARTER THAN MOST…..

  196. Barack Turned Me Republican
    December 15th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

    There’s a lot of hate here.

    Why are so many of you against Obama releasing his birth certificate?

    The Constitution requires that he be a natural born citizen. With so many lawsuits, and more to come, why not release the birth certificate.

    All he has to do is give HI permission to make his birth certificate a public record available to any FOIA request. Problem solved. Or is it?

  197. Boo hoo
    December 15th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

    How utterly pathetic. Sounds like ol’ Cort is a Lieberman/McCain/Palin supporter! This type of thing BRINGS A HUUUUUUGE SMILE TO MY FACE!! Inauguration Day is right around the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…and THANK GOD FOR THAT!!

  198. alvino
    December 15th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

    Both Wrotnowski and Berg need to provide an original birth certificate to CNN, no copies please. I am confident both will show a lot of inbreeding in their own lineage.

  199. Give me a break
    December 15th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

    For every 10 for BO there is one against. MMMMMMMMMM CNN at it best for the truth.

  200. Boo hoo
    December 15th, 2008 1:16 pm ET

    How utterly pathetic!! Sounds like ol’ Cort is a Lieberman/McCain/Palin supporter! This type of thing BRINGS A HUUUUUUGE SMILE TO MY FACE!! Inauguration Day is right around the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…and THANK GOD FOR THAT!!

  201. Cleveland
    December 15th, 2008 1:17 pm ET

    These challenges are as pointless as a comment section after an article.

  202. n
    December 15th, 2008 1:17 pm ET

    Not everyone who questions Obama (even on the silly birth certificate debate) is racist. There were several lawsuits that challenged McCain’s citizenship status. I guess the people who started those lawsuits were also racist? There are plently of legitimate reasons to dislike Obama as choice for president that have nothing to do with race. You make yourself look very ignorant when you call everyone a racist.

  203. Eugene
    December 15th, 2008 1:17 pm ET

    I have a red, green, and white elf shoe that I will be throwing at Mr. Wrotingreenwichnowski this afternoon, …. after I have thrown its companion shoe on the White House lawn.

  204. Actually...
    December 15th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

    I’m amazed that the continual aspersion against anyone who dislikes Obama is that he’s black. Frankly, I disagree with most of his policies, same as I do Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, and Nancy Pelosi. Hmmm…so what does that make me?

    Race has nothing to do with this; McCain was challenged on the same point (with, in my opinion, stronger grounds.) There are always nuts out there, on both sides, who refuse to let something go. How many times over the last 8 years did we hear statements about Bush supposedly “stealing” the 2000 election? Its been a month, vs. 8 years…I think you can allow those elements of the Republican Party who have troubles to finish their adjustment process, given that Dems never did over 8 years.

    That Obama is the next President is a fact that can’t and won’t be changed. God bless him, and I hope he does well. I fear that he’ll lead the country down a path to turn us into a socialist state, but I hope I’m wrong. It has nothing to do with his race, it has everything to do with his politics.

  205. Gerry
    December 15th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

    These right wing nut cases need to give this up. If what they are suggesting is true, then there is no such thing as an American citizen-since everyone one in the US has family that came from somewhere, at some time.

  206. maurice
    December 15th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

    Maggie from Virginia December 15th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

    Give it up already… The man is going to be president. Yep, we will have a black president. If you can’t deal with it, there’s always suicide. cnn should perhaps retract this statement ……i can see a lawsuit brewing already…. and maggie you should be ashamed of your self. does human life mean that little to you? what an ignorant statement. as for the question of citizenship. it has been proven. however i would like obama to show the long form and be done with it. that way all of the other lawsuits will be extiguished as well. its time to move on and take the country on to bigger and better things.

  207. Terrence (Winston Salem, NC)
    December 15th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

    If we had a Kenyan birth certificate but an American grandmother saying he was born in America, would you belive the grandmother or the certificate?

    Being that there is a birth certificate, we need to kill the noise and let it go. the people have VOTED for the president they want. End of story.

  208. Ex-Republican
    December 15th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

    We are talking the law of the land, and to the best of my knowledge, the Constitution stipulates the SCOTUSA has final say.

    To all you people trying to tout the Constitution as your battle cry, use your own argument/document, about resspecting the legacy and traditions of this great nation, and listen to what the SCOTUSA decided. They in essence said “not worth our time”.

    Oh wait, is the law of the land only fair when you get your way?

  209. Give me a break!
    December 15th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

    Somebody throw a shoe at him, too! ENOUGH ALREADY! The Supreme Court gave Bush the election in 2000…they feel sorry for America and are doing the RIGHT THING this time…dismissing stupid and frivolous lawsuits so that we can get America going again!

  210. Lorna, NY
    December 15th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

    What is wrong with these people? Why don’t they start impeachment proceedings on Bush instead of wasting their time on this? Bush has killed thousands of people and no one is making a big deal about this. Where are people’s priority?

  211. Joe In KY
    December 15th, 2008 1:24 pm ET

    I’m amused at how many people there are wanting to see his BC and prove his eligibility that make intelligent, focused points, and those that want to slip our consitution under the rug by cancelling off the pleas by name calling, accusations or just plain immature reaction.

    Before you call me a biggot, or a Oil over, or any other hateful thingthat you can think of simply because I dare question the eligibility of “The Chosen One”, just answer me this.

    Would you feel the same if G.W. Bush refused to show his BC and two why hasn’t Barry shown his? Why? Wouldn’t that put all the detractors in their place if he would simply show proof? Wouldn’t it solidify him as the first semi-afro-american?

    As long as there are people that love this great country and still hold it’s freedom’s and it’s constitution to heart, you will continue to hear our voice.

    Get used to that!

  212. NW
    December 15th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

    Get over it.

  213. karen
    December 15th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

    What a waste of time and money that would have been. Great decision.

  214. Marian H
    December 15th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

    My understanding is certain personal records are HIPAA protected. I thereby applaud the hospital for not divulging this information. If more entities followed these guidelines U.S. citizens wouldn’t be the victims of fraud to the extent we are currently.

  215. Chris
    December 15th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

    @ Lauren the designer,

    I’m fairly sure Laura was being sarcastic… at least, I hope she was. I mean, I’m an Obama supporter, but that’s just ridiculous.

    @ Give me a break,

    ‘Barry’ is a nickname for ‘Barack.’ He used the nickname for a while, then switched back to ‘Barack.’ There’s nothing wrong with that.
    And, by the way, he has produced his birth certificate.

  216. Ilona Hussein Proud Canadian
    December 15th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

    Okay, here I go again!

    TO ALL FOLKS WHO CANNOT ACCEPT BARACK’S
    RIGHT TO BE PRESIDENT…i.e. because of his
    supposed place of birth………….

    Do you folks, REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SMARTER
    THAN HILLARY/BILL CLINTON and JOHN McCAIN?
    (note I am not including Palin…..we all know just how
    smart she is).

    FOR CRYING OUT LOUD FOLKS, if there was even the
    SLIMMEST CHANCE THAT THIS CLAIM WAS CREDIBLE,
    DON’T YOU THINK THAT THE ABOVE FOLKS WOULD
    HAVE MOVED HEAVEN AND EARTH TO BACK IT UP??

  217. Jim, Burlington NC
    December 15th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

    Let me get this right. Being born here in the US to foriegn national Parents, who by being such would mean the child would be a citizen of a foriegn country - would render the child inelligible to be President of the United States?

    Somebody better re-write all the history books, George Washington, and both his parents were born here as British subjects.

    I guess he shouldn’t have been our first president acording to all these wacko’s…

  218. Steph
    December 15th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

    Good. Are we done with this now? Can we get on to repairing this country?

  219. arc, Lugano CH
    December 15th, 2008 1:28 pm ET

    The funny thing is that Indonesia has the highest Muslim concentration in the world, and is the 4th most populated country in the world. It consists of almost 13,000 islands…Yet, very few Country First Bigots could even find it on a map!

  220. quasar
    December 15th, 2008 1:30 pm ET

    Why does Obama refuse to release the birth documents. He’s spending gazillions to avoid doing so. McCain produced his. For those calling anyone questioning his qualifications racist is sick

  221. HELEN
    December 15th, 2008 1:30 pm ET

    To: Cort Wrotnowski

    PRACTICE THESE WORDS: “YES, SIR PRESIDENT OBAMA”

  222. jeh15
    December 15th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

    Actually, Ricki, Obama’s grandma never did say anything like that at all. Both Slate.com and YouTube have the facts on the matter.

    If people looked up the law as had at one point “The Chicago Tribune” on the American status of children born out of country, even if Prez elect Obama was born in Kenya, his mother being an American under the specific statute, Obama would still be qualified and certified as an American. So, why are we quibbling on this issue when even the law favors Obama. And the U.S. Supreme Court won’t allow even an appeal on this utterly ignorant lawsuit to go forward because well, they may as well question the relevance and reality of a decades old law. As long as mom was born and raised an American, then the law itself says that Obama is an American.

  223. Sick Of The Repug Machine
    December 15th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

    The issue is with the term “Natural Born Citizen”. 200+ years ago when our constitution was written world travel was particularly difficult as it was for the following 150 years. Not to many Americans were born in foreign countries. The founding fathers could never have foreseen how easily travel would be in the 20th and 21 centuries. Natural born citizen should be redefined to any child born of an American citizen MOTHER no matter where the child is born Even if the father is not an american citizen.

    Here are 2 examples, My nephew with both parents American citizens was born on an US air force base in Germany. He can’t be president? But parents from a foreign country here on vacation give birth to a child here and that child CAN be president? As usual these people trying to make a stink about this are likely the same hypocrites who like to use words in another old out of date book to fit their own distorted views of modern society, the bible. As far as I’m concerned Natural born means not born in a hospital. Get over it people, he’s just as American as any of you. And he’s going to be one of the best presidents this country has ever seen, leave him alone and let him do his job.

  224. MikeH
    December 15th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

    Clarence Thomas is the Justice allowing these tin-foil-hat petitions to be brought before the Supreme Court to waste the court’s time. Thomas must not have enough to do between reading bestial pornography and defending GITMO torture.

  225. The Clear Thinking Independent Voter
    December 15th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

    Dear Troublemakers …..

    I’m sorry but because we don’t believe you mean any good intentions for the …

    United States
    American Society
    Truth
    Justice
    Fairness, or,
    Intelligent Leadership

    Therefore, we will not even entertain your attempts to smear this man through rumor, innuendo or false questions.

    Just because you troublemakers say things like … “well his grandmother said he was born in Kenya” … or …. “why won’t he release his “long form” birth certificate” …. doesnt mean WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, will give your words any credibility or credence.

    The days of dishonorable attempts to inject doubt where NONE exists, through such seemingly “innocent” comments are over … we are SO PAST the National Enquirer techniques of say anything, throw anything, without any foundation, and hope it sticks.

    SORRY

  226. maurice
    December 15th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

    mwa you brought up a great point on the illegals. i actually question their legality due to the fact if the parents are illegals then would the child be legal under illegal circumstance? now there is a subject for debate.

  227. HELEN
    December 15th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

    @ Laura December 15th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

    THIS IS AN ADULT BLOG. PLEASE VISIT NICKOLEON FOR YOUR FUTURE POST.

  228. Let's ask GOP Arnold.......
    December 15th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

    The GOP ought be be leading authorities on the subject. After all, wasn’t it the GOP who proposed a senate bill, so Arnold Schwarzenneger could run for President, as an Un-Naturalized American citizen ???

  229. jaye
    December 15th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

    This is the stupidest lawsuit in history.

  230. B.Thompson
    December 15th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

    For all the ignorant people on here that keep saying P.E Obama has not accomplished anything in his life. Name one person you know that has the educational background that this man has. If you can’t I as well as many other TRUE AMERICANS want to know how you can say something like that. Or is it the closet bigotry coming out? I didn’t start out a Obama supporter but the one thing I always new was that he is by far one of the most intellectual presidents we’ve ever had.

  231. MikeH
    December 15th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

    I find it interesting the CNN moderators will post a race-baiting comment like that of goodoltxboy, but not post any of mine accusing CNN of tabloid journalism.

  232. mcai
    December 15th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

    In Hawaii, every one gets a certified copy of live birth. No one gets the original. The original is kept on file with the department of health. The head of the department of health in Hawaii, looked at the original or long form and certified that the certified copy matched the original long form.

    When someone becomes an adult, they loose the ability to have dual citizenship and must choose. Children can have dual citizenship. So even if he went to Indonesia and became a citizen, it did not eliminate his US citizenship.

    Obama’s mother did not follow his dad back to Kenya according to biographies, which is why he only saw his dad a few times in his life.

    What I don’t understand is how has this gone on for so long and why is cnn giving it so much attention. Any one who has lived in Hawaii understands that the original has to remain on file so only copies are given out. The copies are certifide as correct copies.

  233. bill
    December 15th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

    THANKS SUPREME COURT.HAVENT WE HAD ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES.let obama get down to buisness.of correcting bushes lousy mess. WAT IRAQUI THROWED THE SHOE.TOO BAD HE MISSED.I WOULDNT HAVE MISSED

  234. Louise
    December 15th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

    Everyday it’s Obama this and Obama that. Anything that is wrong or goes wrong is directed at him. I can’t help but wonder do you think if Bush had been held to such high standards and expectations we would be in this mess we are in now. But not to worry I know that God will protect our PE and no matter how much the status quo tries to bring him dowm God will continue to lift him up.

    5 names linked to that sorry Gov of Illinois only 2 splattered all over the news Jarret and Jackson hum why is that you suppose.

    I know this wont get printed but that okay. God who knows all also sees all

  235. Talking Ocean
    December 15th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

    Why are you people bringing race into this. Of course, if anyone doesn’t agree with Obama they’re racist; that must be the ONLY reason, right? Race card wasn’t enough during the election. Now for the next 4 years anyone who doesn’t agree with Obama it’s because they’re a racist. Why don’t ya’ll sign up for the Civilian Security forces Obama wants to have and then you can go shoot all the Americans you don’t agree with. We can have government sanctioned murder just like Waco.

    Obama is our Pres. I’m moving on. Sorry Ron Paul wasn’t on the ticket!

  236. Sandy
    December 15th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

    A name like Wrotnowski doesn’t sound like a natural born citizen of the US.

  237. arc, Lugano CH
    December 15th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

    Laura December 15th, 2008 12:31 pm ET
    Did I say president? I meant greatest leader of the universe. Smooches for Obama.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You need to combine those weight loss pills with actual exercise. Just taking the pill is the reason that you are still overweight.

    President Elect Obama is in no way connected to your latest failed diet.

  238. VALady
    December 15th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

    For the record, I am not a particular fan of President Bush, and I did not want either Sen. Obama or McCain to be President–it is difficult to imagine that in a nation of 300 million people, we couldn’t come up with two people who were better qualified to be President than the two from whom we chose.

    That said, all of us should be concerned about our politicians living by the Constitution–even those tenets we may not understand. Rather than heap scorn on those who want to be sure that the man who swears to uphold and defend the Constitution actually does so, perhaps it would be reasonable to ask Senator Obama to produce the long form of his Hawaii birth certificate. After all, this matter should be easily put to rest, and remaining silent simply doesn’t speak well of him–both our current President and our future President seem to have an imperial attitude that they do not need to answer to those they seek to represent in the highest office of the land.

  239. Sandy
    December 15th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

    Goodoldtxboy, don’t get mad because most people’s mothers and fathers aren’t related unlike yours.

  240. you know it
    December 15th, 2008 1:39 pm ET

    To the comments of “Salt” the second from the bottom. You are right! Illigal immigrants from across the border, have a baby in America, the baby is American. The baby has to stay in America but they try to send the parents back over the border. Republicans are children of the Devil!

  241. Ken in NC
    December 15th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

    The only Naturalized citizens are the Indians. The rest of us migrated here from other parts of the world or were born to parents that migrated here or we are the decendents of others that migrated here from other parts of the world.

    Upon coming here the Indians were found to have a fair judicial system, low or no crime or disease or poverty and the migrants attempted to improve on what the Indians had and look at the mess we are in now.

    Give the man a break. Let him do his job. If you cannot accept having an African American as your President there is always Mexico, Iran, Iraq, or other countries that would be glad to have you.

    As for me, I am going to give him a chance. If he doesn’t get something done I will vote for someone else in 4 years. That’s my choice.

  242. Erin
    December 15th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

    Um.. the only presidential candidate who wasn’t actually born in the US - LOST in November. His name was John McCain.. and he was actually born over-seas on a military base.

    Barack Obama was born in the US.. he legally is able to be president.. deal with it.

    I wonder how these republicans who continue to bring friviolous lawsuits felt in 2000 when Gore actually really HAD a reason to fight for the presidency (he won). I bet they thought he should just drop it.. ironic eh?

  243. Cammi317
    December 15th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

    What is wrong with some of you? His mother was AMERICAN. I don’t care if he was born in the Artic. He was born to an AMERICAN and is therefore AMERICAN. Give me a break! BTW, I thought that whole challenging McCain’s citizenship was dumb as well.

  244. gypsyzingaro
    December 15th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

    Seriously? Ok. Here you go. EVEN IF he was born on Mars, hung out with terrorists, is not white, or has a middle name of Hussein, America STILL elected him. What does that say about us? None of that bs matters. We need something else, we needed anything else. Sour grapes are unbecoming, and to GOTB, people called him Barry, because it is a nickname, not because it is ‘more American’, much like your name might be William Joseph Robert E Lee, and your friends call you Billy Joe Bob. Love the Obama, because he is your president. At least he did not steal the elections like your Bush did, and we all suffered through that, so you can make it the next 8 years, while Barry cleans up the mess he made. Thanks Barry, you rock.

  245. sensible Cape Coral FL
    December 15th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

    RE: gooddoldboy

    I do not know of any problem that was solved by hatred such as yours but I can think of all too many that were caused by it.

  246. quasar
    December 15th, 2008 1:42 pm ET

    Can any dim-o-crat submit a good rationale for not releasing the original birth documents w/o calling people racist? Why is that too much to ask?

  247. Jackie in Dallas
    December 15th, 2008 1:42 pm ET

    This is one of the silliest of the neocon obsessions. Three separate bipartisan committees looked at Obama’s original birth certificate and certified it authentic.

    Considering that the majority of the Supreme Court were Republican nominations, can’t these guys get a clue?? Give it up — you are opening a can of worms that might even disqualify McCain!

  248. WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 15th, 2008 1:42 pm ET

    THIS IS THE BIGGEST COVER UP IN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!

    IF THE TRUTH DOES NOT COME OUT ABOUT OBAMAS REAL BIRTH PLACE IT WILL PROVE JUST HOW CROOKED THE WORLD REALLY IS.

    WHERE DO YOU THINK OBAMA GOT MOST OF HIS MONEY FROM???

    WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  249. gypsyzingaro
    December 15th, 2008 1:44 pm ET

    Seriously? Ok. Here you go. EVEN IF he was born on Mars, hung out with terrorists, is not white, or has a middle name of Hussein, America STILL elected him. What does that say about us? None of that bs matters. We need something else, we needed anything else. Sour grapes are unbecoming, and to those who feel he is trying to fake them out, people called him Barry, because it is a nickname, not because it is ‘more American’, much like your name might be William Joseph Robert E Lee, and your friends call you Billy Joe Bob. Love the Obama, because he is your president. At least he did not steal the elections like your Bush did, and we all suffered through that, so you can make it the next 8 years, while Barry cleans up the mess he made. Thanks Barry, you rock.

  250. WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 15th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

    I GOES TO SHOW YOU JUST HOW BLIND THE TYPICAL AMERICAN VOTER REALLY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HAWAII IS SUCH A JOKE OF A COVER UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  251. ulysses
    December 15th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

    Of course the constitutional eligibility of the President-Elect is of the utmost importance. But there is no question of constitutional interpretation here - it’s simply a question of fact. We have a lot of people here making claims about what the facts are in this case, but since I personally don’t get to walk into an office in HI and examine his birth certificate myself, I’ll have to trust the officials who have when they say it matches what Obama posted on his website over the summer. All the random schlubs on the web forums shouting “Why won’t he show us his birth certificate” don’t actually prove that he hasn’t.
    Now, if McCain had won the election we would be having a very similar discussion but the argument would not be about the facts of the case, but about the interpretation of the constitution with regard to the term “Natural Born”. I think the SCOTUS would have been reluctantly forced to take that case. And my understanding of the Constitution and the SCOTUS leads me to the conclusion that McCain would have prevailed, but it would require an “activist” interpretation, which McCain himself professes to oppose. I think a strict constructionist interpretation of the constitution would say McCain would have been ineligible for the Presidency. This question has never been force upon the SCOTUS because the numerous historical candidates with circumstances similar to McCain’s have never happened to win the election.
    But that’s a very different question from Obama’s eligibility, which seems to be a matter of fact. The fact that every court has rejected these lawsuits leads me to believe that the evidence presented to them is clearly in Obama’s favor.

  252. Moyiz
    December 15th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

    LOL !!!!!! Are you still king of Comedy ???? Ooopssss not a comedy !!!! Sooo being angry of the election result …? so If you don’t want my HERO, please go to IRAK

  253. J.P.
    December 15th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

    Ya know, Barry, if you release the actual vault copy of the birth certificate, this will all go away.

    But why spend nearly a cool million bucks to keep all your personally-identifying documents under wraps? Smells stinky to me.

    You people do realize that unless Obama releases his actual birth certificate, an army of lawyers will effectively tie up his administration, right? In court case after court case, legal challenge after legal challenge, they’ll challenge each and every piece of legislatiion he signs or judicial appointment he makes, claiming that any law Obama signs is not valid due to his constitutional ineligibility? You do understand this, right?

    THIS ISSUE IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY JAN 20.

    Think about this folks… how can one violate a law that is not valid, due to the ineligibility of the signer? If he wants any credibility, he’s going to have to release his actual birth certificate, not some administrative “certification of live birth.”

  254. WI Cheesehead
    December 15th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

    GWB is not just a lame duck that knows how to quack. He also knows how to duck.

  255. The Chosen One
    December 15th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

    I’m surprised it wasn’t an immaculate conception.

  256. EW
    December 15th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

    Barack Obama attended school in Indonesia. In order to attend school in Indonesia, one has to be a citizen of Indonesia. In order to become an Indonesian citizen, one has to give up all other citizenship. One also must practice Islam in order to go to school in Indonesia.

    So, even if Obama is a citizen, he would have gone from a natural born citizen to a non-citizen to a naturalized citizen due to his status in Indonesia.

    Berg was stating this at least as far back as September and by doing a little research, one can find it to be true.

    Plain and simple facts.

  257. Joseph in VA
    December 15th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

    Goodoldtxboy December 15th, 2008 12:36 pm ET

    The reason that the SCOTUS is denying these cases, is because if they took one of these cases and found out the truth, that Obama was born in Kenya and he was then pushed out of the Presidency, do you know how many crazy African Americans would be rioting and looting. Think about how nuts everyone went during the Rodney King fiasco. You can take the African American out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of the African American!!!!!!!
    _________________________________________________________
    and you can take the klansmen out the country but you can’t stop pure stupidity and ignorance from coming out his mouth

  258. That Other Jerry
    December 15th, 2008 1:48 pm ET

    “Many legal analysts questioned Wrotnowski’s argument.” What about his sanity? Republicans have a lot of housekeeping to do to regain their lost credibility and avoid being crushed by the Obama juggernaut. Step One should be to distance themselves as far as possible from the radical weirdos–like say, from here to Pluto?

  259. jeh15
    December 15th, 2008 1:48 pm ET

    As for another poster commenting that you had to be an Indonesian citizen to enter Indonesian schools, I am not knowledgeable about Indonesian law, but I would say this, Americans study in schools outside the U.S. a lot, including at one time (former) President Bill Clinton. Clinton did not “give up” an American citizenship to study in British schools, nor was he required to. And even further, if mom did have to provide a temporary “dual citizenship” status for Prez elect Obama, she also returned with him to the states after the ending of her second marriage. Mom guaranteed that by returning Obama back to the states, and with the specifics of the law itself, that Obama spending the rest of his youth growing up on American soil, that he would indeed be an American in accordance with the law. The law says, that he is eligible to be President. The law is the final word on the matter.

  260. Baze
    December 15th, 2008 1:49 pm ET

    Republicans just won’t stop until we’re a country in flames.

  261. Tim
    December 15th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

    This stuff needs to end. Obama is our President and we need to support him. Stop crying because you lost and move on!!!!

  262. Q
    December 15th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

    Isn’t Berg the same guy that was on CNN just before the election saying that BO was a US citizen, but his father was someone other than BO, Sr? I think the name was Frank something or another…

    If it wasn’t Berg, maybe it was the other lunatic who filed suit…that Andy guy.

    These people have serious issues.

  263. Soccer Nana
    December 15th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

    With all the pertinent issues we have going on in this Country, time has been wasted on a non issue.

    This foolishness should have never even gotten as far as the Supreme Court of the United States.

    Obama is the president-elect and will become the next president. Get used to it!

    Had McCain won the election, questions concerning his citizenship would have never emerged.

  264. rena
    December 15th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

    What in the world is wrong with you people? Do you all know how many American soldiers have their children abroad? I am the spouse of a military personnel and guess what? I had a baby in Europe; does that mean my child is not American? She does not have the typical birth certificate. It just read US Abroad. Get over yourself, I am so sick of you stupid people questioning this man birth right.

    If you don’t like the outcome of this year Presidential election, leave the country and come back in 2016. You people are so immature. Grow the H_ll up!

  265. Ken in NC
    December 15th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

    With a name like Wrotnowski, is this person a “Naturalized Citizen”. Give it a rest.

  266. sbp
    December 15th, 2008 1:51 pm ET

    Far Right Crazies — get a grip. The Supreme Court — the CONSERVATIVE Supreme Court (with only two Democratic nominees), declined to hear the matter. What does that tell you? That they are now part of the conspiracy to abolish the constitution and install a Marxist Islamic Dictatorship? If there was any merit to this claim, they would have stepped in. Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, John Roberts, Anthony Kennedy — they all believe this stuff to be ridiculous. Are you smarter than them — or are they in on the fix?

  267. Logic_Man in Atlanta
    December 15th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

    To goodoldtxboy- I guess you can’t take the racist out of the klan, but you can’t take the klan out of the racist either huh texas boy? That is such an ignorant and utterly racist statement you made. It is ignorant simple minded humans like you that keep the human race back.

  268. Nat
    December 15th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

    These right wing crazies should wake up ……. except you are a decendant of one of our great tribes of old …. the Apaches, Cherokees etc., The same arguement could be stretched to disqualify anyone ….simply roll back the years to when your 1st non American ancestor got off the boat!

    By the way, the last time I checked, Anyone born in Panama is not qualified to be president, except he’s a replubican!!!!

  269. Phil
    December 15th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

    Goodoldtxboy - I bet you would have preferred using the “n” word instead of “African Americans” in that post. Where do you take your hood to get pressed? Or does your barefoot and pregnant wife do it for you? Did you actually go to school beyond the 4th grade?

  270. Soccer Nana
    December 15th, 2008 1:55 pm ET

    “Goodoldtxboy December 15th, 2008 12:36 pm ET

    The reason that the SCOTUS is denying these cases, is because if they took one of these cases and found out the truth, that Obama was born in Kenya and he was then pushed out of the Presidency, do you know how many crazy African Americans would be rioting and looting. Think about how nuts everyone went during the Rodney King fiasco. You can take the African American out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of the African American!!!!!!!”

    Oh, so that is why you and Timothy McVeigh’s cousins blew up that bank and killed the police chief and bomb technician in Oregon Friday, and left another police officer in critical condition? You just can’t take domestic terrorosim out of some people. Hmmmm.

  271. Michelle in KC
    December 15th, 2008 1:55 pm ET

    Hilvoter wrote: “This is an excellent argument for abolishing the anchor baby laws.”

    Actually, genius, this has nothing to do with “anchor babies.” An anchor baby is a child born on US soil to a pair of parents who don’t have US citizenship. The baby, being born on American soil, is automatically an American, and LIKE AN ANCHOR, hooked to US American soil, is used by the parents to attain their own citizenship.

    Obama’s father never sought US citizenship. Obama’s mother was BORN IN KANSAS. This was never an “anchor baby” case. The only question in this case is whether Obama was born on American soil. All standing legal evidence indicates that he was. Additionally, he was still born to an American mother. More importantly, by my reckoning, he’s a lot more intelligent than our current President, has a much better grasp of the issues, and will be a welcome change in D.C. Here’s your product headline:

    “New and improved PRESIDENT! Now available in black. 30% more IQ than previous model. Available Jan. 20th. No substitutions, extensions, or refunds.”

  272. starboardhelm
    December 15th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

    If he is a natural born citizen, then why did he hire teams of lawyers and spend nearly a million dollars to keep his vault birth certificate and college records secret?

    These articles always claim the Obama’s ‘birth certificate’ has been posted online. Not true — that was not a birth certificate, not by any stretch. So, just what is it you all are helping him to cover up instead of working to uncover? Come on, commit some journalism.

    Whether he’s a natural born citizen or not does not concern me — that he refuses to simply produce thsese records and put the whole thing to rest does.

    I guess this is what his version of an ‘open, honest and transparent’ administration will look like.

  273. mcai
    December 15th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

    shee none of my comments on this topic ever get put up. In Hawaii, the original birth certificate is kept on file and only a certified copy is available. The head of the Department of Health has looked at the original and verified the information on the original long form. The story was in the papers in Hawaii.

    when a dual citizen child becomes an adult, they choose which citizenship they are going to have. So even if he was an Indonesian citizen through his step-father, as a child he would still have dual citizenship. He would not loose his American citizenship as has been suggested.

  274. Lets talk about more important things people
    December 15th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

    Goodoldtxboy:

    Your ignorance is so unbecoming. Its not nice to stereotype what you THINK black people would do. President Obama will be your president in another month, and he has gotten the approval of more than 60% of the people compared to the current president whose approval rating is about your IQ. Lets learn to get along and give people a chance. Its time this nation came together and quit crying over things that no one but a very small percentage is worried about.

  275. Sue
    December 15th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

    Is this finally over? My sister and brother have been whining about this since before the election…now maybe everyone will, at last, accept that Barack Obama is legally our President. What a waste of time and dollars when there are so many more pressing issues (the impeachment of GWB for one!) I just got yet another letter from my “follow Bush anywhere” Michigan congressman, who is so entrenched he barely bothers to campaign here, saying “I do not believe that the President has done anything to warrant impeachment proceedings.” Oh, yeah? Let me count the ways, Congressman Camp! Or are you in favor of torture, lying us into war,
    and the taking away of 1st amendment rights by snooping, too?

  276. sandee in Portland
    December 15th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

    @ BO is just BO….”He had TWO citizenships at Birth and the constitution basically says that when it comes to running for president you can’t have dual allegiance”

    You’re right in that he was born with DUAL CITIZENSHIP, but that expired when he turned 21 so that means that he didn’t have dual citizenship when he decided to run for president.

  277. Steven
    December 15th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

    I can’t lie, the tempatation to react to ‘Goodoldtxboy’ is strong. But the greater character of forgiveness prevails.

  278. hsceer
    December 15th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

    Kenya isn’t a country anyway. According to Sara Palin the country is Africa.

  279. Jackie in Dallas
    December 15th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

    Actually, a search of Wikipedia will define natural born citizen three ways: by blood, by location of birth, or by ethnicity/religion (used primarily in Isreal. The US only uses the first two. You can be a natural born citizen by being born to a parent - jus sanguinis - (only requires ONE) that is a U.S. citizen, or by being born on U.S. territory - jus soli - (which includes the US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and Guam — or any U.S. military base located in a foreign country). So even if President Elect Obama were born anywhere else other than Hawaii, he still is considered a natural born citizen due to his mother’s citizenship. We can pick nits on this topic for years, and there are a number of bills that have been introduced in the Legislature to define this more carefully, but I think you nut-cases are stuck with the fact that President Elect Obama is being inaugurated as our next President. If I can stand 8 years of a nausea-producing Twig like Georgie Junior, you can deal with it.

  280. arc, Lugano CH
    December 15th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

    Goodoldtxboy December 15th, 2008 12:36 pm ET
    You can take the African American out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of the African American!!!!!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    This is the definition of ‘Country First’.

  281. 3strikes
    December 15th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

    if its an issue, then maybe its true. people need to visually see the paperwork and if it is true, IMPEACH THAT NOBAMA FRAUD and switch to mccain/palin

  282. Ex-Republican
    December 15th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

    SCOTUSA has final say…that is a fact of our great nation.
    SCOTUSA has decided these lawsuits are frivolous garbage and have decided not to hear these KKK sponsored accusations.
    Deal with it, and embrace the law of the land, the SCOTUSA has made their decision and it’s final!

    Or Is the law of the land only fair when you get your way?

  283. obama-mama
    December 15th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

    This nut job apparently has too much time on his hands. Why don’t he find something contructive to do

  284. greg greenman
    December 15th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

    Hmmm, more whites voted for him than African Americans so it’s probably safe to say that they would be upset also. Probably rioting as well. Now if he was Republican the right would say that the Dems are caught up in conspiracy theories but now that the shoe is on the other foot we have to be insane and blind not to see it your way. What kills me is that common sense fails to enter your minds. If his citizenship was an issue McCain would have been all over it, the US gov’t itself would have been all over it. These guys are vetted before they get this far you idiots. You think they are going to run the risk of this being true and thus nullifying his Presidency when he gets in office? Come on. It’s pure common sense. Nothing more, nothing less.

  285. JJ in Chula Vista, CA
    December 15th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

    Sounds like Republicans are trying to turn sour grapes into good wine for themselves, but we’re smarter than that. It’s just sad that we’re going to have to spend at the very least the next four years hearing about this kind of junk to no end. But, I guess that’s what we get for complaining the last 8 years of George Bush’s incompetence… I guess it’s a fair trade off….I suppose.

  286. Once you vote Black
    December 15th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

    EW, that is nutz. Do you think all of the Americans who are over there in Indo schools are not longer citz? And did you know that once a US Cit Always a Cit. I think that W in EW is starting to effect the way you see things. By the way, what proof do you have of any of what you said. Why has Newit, Rush, Palin, et tal stated this. The only people making these statments are people with more toes then teeth.

  287. Charm
    December 15th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

    Wasn’t McCain born in Panama? Sheesh some people need to get a life.

  288. Vigla
    December 15th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

    GoodoldTxboy,

    Your comments are as dumb as they are ignorant. Your racist post has no business here. Begone!

  289. bobmc
    December 15th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

    Moronic

  290. starboardhelm
    December 15th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

    Answer to JL: ” Can some one please tell me WHY is it that white America so unwilling to show love? Why always showing so much HATE?”

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.
    – Anonymous

    You’ve got to love what’s lovable, and hate what’s hateable. It takes brains to see the difference.
    - Robert Frost

  291. Jacob
    December 15th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

    I think the next legal challenge will be to say that we should only count three-fifths of the votes for Obama because he is black.

    These bogus legal challenges and conspiracy theories are just racism and a last ditch effort at lynching. Call a duck and duck — albeit one wearing white robes and a pointy hat.

  292. STL-Veteran
    December 15th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

    EW,

    Check the real facts you are total off on that. If he were adopted by his Indonesian step-father he would have gained Indonesian citzenship but they do not recognize dual citzenship, the US on the other hand would have recongized his dual-citzenship and he would still be a “natual born citizen” no matter how hard you try you can’t take that away from him or anybody else that was born in the US.

    Move on please.

  293. obama-mama
    December 15th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

    All the clowns on this blog that want to see POTUS’ birth certificate, go out and spend money to see it….Take all the time you need…Stay out of his personal life. How would you like people digging in your personal life. If the government with the proof they have what are you all worried about. I’m sure some of your have important family issues to attend to besides sticking your noses up the POTUS’ backside.

  294. OBAMERICANADA
    December 15th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

    THE NATIVES SHOULD TAKE AMERICA BACK—-THEY ARE THE ONLY “NATURAL BORN” IN AMERICA.

    EVERY OTHER PERSON IS EITHER —AFRICA–ASIA–EUROPE OR MIDDLE EAST. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS LET EVERYBODY GO BACK TO HIS/HER COUNTRY,WHEREVER THERE GREAT GRANDPA/MA COME FROM———-IDIOTS——–.

    LOU DOB IS AN EUROPEAN, SO WHY IS HE AGAINST OTHERS COMING TO US OF A. THE INDIANS SHUOLD CHECK ON FILE HOW LOU’S PAPA GOT HERE.

    I AM GOING TO BED, CALL ME WHEN YOU HAVE MORE SENSIBLE DISCUSSION. STUPID IDIOT .

    WRONTNOWSKI IS AN EUROPEAN NAME SO ———————–.

    FROM
    IMMIGRANT LIKE ALL AMERICANS EXCEPT THE RED INDIANS.

  295. Ryan
    December 15th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

    You dont need to be an indonesian citizen or a muslim to go to school in Indonesia. One of the largest religions in Indonesia is Christianity, by the way.

    Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. He is a natural-born american citizen. Always has been.

    Does anyone remember that John McCain was born in PANAMA? As in, outside of the US? And that a court had to rule he was eligible to run for president?

    Dual citizenship wouldnt even disqualify you anyways. So says the republican-controlled SCOTUS who made this ruling.

    Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States. He was elected legally and legitimately.

    Deal with it.

  296. Kenny of Wappingers Falls, NY
    December 15th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

    We are on the verge of having our first illegal alien president and nobody cares! What is worse is the Supreme court, whom we were led to believe decides constitutional issues and rules on behalf of the best interest of the nation, refuses to even discuss the matter. The question of “standing” is the quandry. The media loves it and I have to believe his illegal status is common knowlege among the people in power. Keep in mind we elected them in the belief they would represent us to the best of their ability. They are doing nothing! This is not government by the people and for the people! It is not what our forefathers had in mind! If we do not confirm his legal status to lead this once great nation it will come back to bite us. You cannot hide a cancer! Or for that matter put lipstick on a pig!

  297. Tim
    December 15th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

    Patrick: “Since when is measuring a future president against the requirements of the constitution considered stupidity? Where was this man born? It is a simple question. ”

    And there’s a simple answer: Hawaii. There is no basis in any of the conspiracy theories out there. And even if there were, the courts would not entertain them. In almost all instances, the federal courts do not recognize “taxpayer standing.” You can’t file a lawsuit just because you’re a taxpayer. You have to show a personal interest in the outcome. A collective interest (such as the result of a presidential election) is insufficient, because your interest is no greater than anyone else’s.

    If you don’t like that, you can always ask your representative to introduce a law to amend the judiciary act. Perhaps start a specialized court to hear all of the lamebrained schemes that would result. If so, I hope you like paying the additional taxes needed to pay for the court.

  298. geecee827
    December 15th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

    What is wrong with you people? This ploy hasn’t worked before and it isn’t going to work in the future. A Certificate of Live Birth is the same as a Birth Certificate. Are you so desperate that this is all you’ve got and you think it will invalidate the Election? Get some mental health treatment, please!!! No one is trying to “cover up” anything. Obama got elected fair and square. You honestly think that the media in this country would have let him get away with anything fraudulent? They weren’t in the “tank” for Obama. The media just exists for a story, any story, good, bad or indifferent. They would have gone after him mercilessly if he were guilty of committing any type of fraud, in any way, shape or manner. You don’t want to believe that, do you, but you want to believe every ridiculous conspiratorial bit of nonsense that Limbaugh or Hannity or Jerome Corsi make up and that casts a negative light on Obama. And why is that, I have to ask? Is it because you just hate him so much and can’t stand the thought of his being President that you will try anything to prevent it? It must go up your butts a mile, doesn’t it, that he is going to be our next President - Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States. Get used to it.

  299. Soccer Nana
    December 15th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

    “Piere December 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

    Why won’t Obama just produce an original birth certificate that’s authentic and be done with it.? Obama’s grandmother says she he was born in Kenya as his mother was detained and not allowed to fly back for the birth due to advanced pregnancy. Why not just be open and show the proof of US birth and be done with it?”

    First of all, when you purchase a “copy” of your child’s birth certificate you do not receive the “original”, you simply get a certified copy of the live birth and depending upon the state, various information about each parent is printed on thet “certified” copy you receive. Also, the date you receive the certified copy is actually stamped on the certified copy.

    Secondly, Obama’s mother was not in Kenya when he was born because his father was attending school in Hawaii; Obama Sr left Hawaii to attend school at Harvard when Obama II was 2 years old.

  300. Meh
    December 15th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

    Janey> He’s already been vetted THROUGHLY by the powers that be. You really trust the MSM to vet someone? Get real.

    Amazing that people are screaming about the Constitution in regards to this when Bush and his cronies have been using it for toilet paper for 8 years now.

  301. jean
    December 15th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

    The brightest legal minds in the nation have declared that there is no merit to this accusation.
    President-Elect Obama was born in HI…pure and simple. Have you ever stopped to think why would his mom want or need to fly to Kenya to give birth to her child? Would she receive good medical care?
    His maternal grandparents who raised him, provided his HI birth ceritificate. What is your problem?

  302. The Twin Cities Daily Liberal » They don’t respect you
    December 15th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

    [...] never thought I would see a news item like this: The U.S. Supreme Court rejected a second appeal Monday challenging President-elect Barack [...]

  303. pam Eugene OR
    December 15th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

    Move on people. You nut jobs are wasting the courts time. Barack Hussien Obama is our legally elected PE and on Jan. 20, 2009 he will be our legally elected President.
    What a bunch of sore losers you Republicans are. There should be fines for these wasteful lawsuits.
    Get over it because you can’t change it. The majority of the people elected him fairly.

  304. demo
    December 15th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

    Dear bbbb3JUQ5e8L,

    Stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. He’s lying to you.

  305. BUSH BEGONE!
    December 15th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

    You just gotta laugh at the repugs. NOW, they want to follow the Constitution. It did not seem to bother them when the shrub and the dick shredded it.

    Too funny, just remember that repugs set the precedence, when and if Dems stretch it just a bit…

  306. Marc
    December 15th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

    To Steve and all the others that came up with this ‘dual citizenship’ stuff, the Supreme Court has already ruled a decision that recognized the dual citizenship a ’status long recognized in the law’. Since they never went back on that matter, and the INA has no saying (neither recognizing, denying, pro or against) about the question… it is not against the law to have dual citizenship!!!!
    Plus, Berg is grasping at straws with this one.
    Let’s see, suppose that you and your family (all natural born citizens) are in a foreign country which rules that ONLY the citizens of said country will have the access to some basic human rights, and suppose that as Steve believes the dual citizenship is not accepted by US laws, so you or your children have to become a citizen of that country or…
    Does this legal extortion should be accepted by the SCOTUS?

  307. Dufferdo
    December 15th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

    Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959. He’s a natural born citizen. Case closed.

  308. conniesz
    December 15th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

    FYI - from Wikipedia, not the most reliable source but in this instance the case they cite is correct:

    Perkins v. ELG, 307 U.S. 325 (1939): The U.S. Supreme Court concluded that Marie Elizabeth Elg who was born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized in the United States, had not lost her birthright U.S. citizenship because of her removal during minority to Sweden and was entitled to all the rights and privileges of that U.S. citizenship. In this case, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the decree that declared Miss Elg “to be a natural born citizen of the United States.”

  309. John Janski
    December 15th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

    Looks like the Fraud, Barry Obama gets away with another one. God help us!!!!

  310. Ernie in LA
    December 15th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

    Laura, You are the reason why so many unqualified people get elected. You should not be allowed to vote.

  311. RichMo
    December 15th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

    You guys! Here’s my post…3rd time’s a charm…right?
    ————————–
    CNN SHOW US YOUR STUFF! You can do it! Use Time Warner’s resources to file the report of the millenium.
    Here’s a start:
    1) hire an intern. Give them a small per-diem, airfare/car budget, camera & producer.
    2) give them til Jan 5 to answer natural-born questions.
    3) Grow journalistic courage.
    ————————————-

    I can’t believe you haven’t posted my simple suggestion…but you allow the perpetuation of racist & race-baiting remarks.

    What happened to journalists whose job it was to find this stuff out?
    Give a kid with some ambition some room to investigate this. You can then tell your children that you did your best to avoid a constitutional crisis.

    The TRUTH is important. Please find out before the votes get counted.

  312. Joe Six-Pack
    December 15th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

    The Wrotnowski case (denied today without comment) alleges two things:

    1. The natural born citizen issue whihc was covered in the article;
    2. That Obama, when adopted by his Indonesian step-father became an Indonesian citizen. This is based on Indonesian law, the school issue (only citizens were permitted to attend public school), adoption laws of Indonesia, etc.

    The supreme court may feel they do not have standing to rule now. Maybe after the electors elect Obama, or afther congress confirms them, then their standing may change.

    I believe there is enough question that it warrants ckearing up. Mybe this is the issue that Biden implied will “test Obama” after Obama takes office?

  313. WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 15th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

    CNN YOU CAN ONLY COVER THIS UP FOR SO LONG!!!!!!!!!!!

  314. Michael
    December 15th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

    Yet another waste of court time and tax money.

    The term “natural born Citizen” is not defined in the Constitution.

    The definition applicable to President-Elect Obama is contained in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. The question regarding Senator McCain is materially different, as US immigrational and citizenship law was different at the time of his birth.

    A “natural born Citizen” is NOT restricted to birth in the United States or its territories. It is defined as a person born in the United States or territories subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, OR a person BORN ABROAD “of parents, one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States” under specific conditions of residency - namely, Obama’s mother had to be a resident of the United States for five years prior to the birth of Barack Obama. 8 U.S.C. §1401 (a), Section 301 (a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952

    My son was born overseas under the same conditions, and he is not a naturalized citizen, he is legally a US citizen at birth.

  315. Ken
    December 15th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

    I am disappointed that our high court is following the political agenda instead of up holding our Constitution and what it stands for!

    I think that the question be looked into, for if Obama is indeed not a “natural born citizen”, then he should NOT be our next president!

    Why is the Supreme Court afraid of not looking into this matter?

  316. Obamaye Hoye
    December 15th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

    ricki: “Why does the President Elects’ paternal grandmother claim he was born in Kenya and she witnessed the birth?”

    I don’t know if BO’s paternal grandmother said she had witnessed the birth or not, but if she did there is a simple cultural explanation for that. All African traditional societies (like Kenyans) are very possessive of a newly born male child. In the Swahili culture, they strongly believe in the spirit and that death and birth transcend space and time. It is not uncommon for a grandmother in Africa to claim witness to the birth of her grandson, since she was there in the spirit, or the birth happened, spiritually that is, at the ancestral village of the Obamas, even if the child was born in outer space.

  317. jm
    December 15th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

    Has it ever occurred to any of you accusing the posters here of being racist that race has nothing to do with it? First of all, McCain had to produce information relative to his birth in Panama. He did so without problem.
    THe problem with BO is not necessarily that most people believe he isn’t a US citizen, it’s that he, as he did throughout his election and will likely do throughout his presidency, acts as though he is above that AND NO ONE CALLS HIM ON IT. The same thing happened with his medical records. I believe a big problem with Obama is his lack of openness, his lack of disclosure and this odd sense of arrogance that he doesn’t have to answer to the public the same way every politician has. I chall
    enge any person to disagree that BO had the most unchallenged, unvetted and uncriticized campaign in the history of presidential politics.

  318. THE OLD TIMNER
    December 15th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

    Drum roll please….. you have just witness the opening of PANDORAS
    BOX. there will be much more to come… and when is all said and done….the electorial lite will all say I NEVER VOTED FOR HIM….. four more years of lies and hogwash coming from the OBAMA CAMP

  319. Soccer Nana
    December 15th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

    FYI, Barack did not begin to call himself “Barry”; his maternal grandfather did.

  320. WILL IN CHI
    December 15th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

    BREAKING NEWS!!!!! OBAMA IS NOT A US CITIZEN…………….. HE’S A RUBBER DUCKY THAT’S RIGHT A RUBBER DUCKY TRYING TO MELT THE ICE CAPS SO HE CAN SWIM FOREVER.GO TO FOX NEWS FOR MORE….GOBAMA!!!

  321. linda from South Dakota
    December 15th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

    lets give this a rest,,,, but then some people just cant leave “well-enough_ alone,, Obama won, fair and square and lets enjoy the blessings,,, god bless america!!!!!!!

  322. WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 15th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

    HEY OBAMA SUPPORTERS,

    DO YOU FEELING FOOLISH YET FOR VOTING AND PLACING A MAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY WHO ISN’T AN AMERICAN CITIZEN!!!!!!!!!!

    THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS COULDN’T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT!!!

  323. geecee827
    December 15th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

    I need to add something that is so apparent that it is going to really sound stupid, but I just have to say to the person who said Obama is using two first names “Barry” and “Barack”. Barry is a nickname. He obviously used it in place of the more formal and rather unusual name of Barack which is his given birth name. What else would you call someone named Barack - Racky? So, Barry made sense and he called himself Barry for a portion of his adult life. Is that so difficult to understand? Can’t you come up with some real issues to bash him about? Is this all you got as a reason why his birth certificate isn’t valid? Come on, grow up. Get a life, better still, get an education. Go back to school, Geez!!!

  324. You can't have it both ways!
    December 15th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

    It’s funny to see these hypocritical patriotic retards spout their non-sense.

    In one hand they hold up the constitution and yell at the top of their lungs: “We must obey the Constitution…Impeach Obama”

    And in the other they perform acts of treason by mentally erasing the verdict of the Supreme Court of the USA, forgetting that the final say IS the SCOTUSA.

    You can’t have it both ways you idiots! The SCOTUSA has spoken, they decided it’s frivoulous BS brought up by sore losers that like to burn crosses on the weekends…now YOU all (the sociopaths ranting on and on about their moronic conspiracy theories) need to STFU!

  325. President Barack Obama
    December 15th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

    Ignorance is ALIVE & PREVELANT AS EVER….

    Eight Years…..EIGHT YEARS YOU CLOWNS.

    Thats how long our President mines & YOURS…. President Barack HUSSEIN Obama will be POTUS!!!
    You will learn to love & respect your president Barack Hussein Obama!!! And If you don’t who cares…..
    Move to Russia or Siberia or go play in traffic on a busy street…..

  326. IDU
    December 15th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

    Here is a solution for you repubs how can’t get over Obama’s citizenship: Call the psycho ward, get strapped to a jacket and get locked into a room w/ a large flat screen HD quality T.V. watching the Obama inauguration…… and video tape yourself go into convulsions while watching it and put it on youtube. I need some entertainment.

  327. groink_hi
    December 15th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

    @starboardhelm - According to the State of Hawaii, Department of Health, the certificate you’ve seen on places like Obama’s web site as well as other independent sites like justthefacts.org is in fact legal. Each state is given the right to set its own laws on what documents can be used as proof of birth. I was also born in Hawaii. When I applied for security clearance with the DoD, I too received that same green certificate with the stamp. And the DoD, as well as any other federal government entity accepts this certificate. ALL Hawaii citizens has this. If, however, you’re looking for the certificate that was originally issued by the hospital, and includes the footprint and doctor’s signature, the SOH does not keep that on-record, so you will never ever see that document. Once that original birth certificate is submitted to the State for processing, the data is entered into the database. It is this database that generates the green birth certificate. Again, this differs from state to state, but in the State of Hawaii, the green copy is 100-percent legal and can be used just like the original document. So please do not use your state’s laws and attempt to apply them to Hawaii state laws.

  328. Red, Red WHINE!!
    December 15th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

    It’s funny to see these hypocritical patriots spout their non-sense.

    In one hand they hold up the constitution and yell at the top of their lungs: “We must obey the Constitution…Impeach Obama”

    And in the other they perform acts of treason by mentally erasing the verdict of the Supreme Court of the USA, forgetting that the final say IS the SCOTUSA.

    You can’t have it both ways! The SCOTUSA has spoken, they decided it’s frivoulous issues brought up by sore losers that like to burn crosses on the weekends…now YOU all (the sociopaths ranting on and on about their moronic conspiracy theories) need to STFU!

  329. Daniel
    December 15th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

    Now what are all the bitter Republicans going to cry about?

  330. Sammy
    December 15th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

    This really defines what it means to be republican. It’s not just sour grapes, it’s racism. And some racists will never bring themselves to stop trying to fight a black man winning. Some are even trying to pacify their minds by saying he isn’t actually black, so it’s kind of ok. If you’re racist, let’s face it, the republican brand is for you. They just removed the country club pic from their web site, until someone realized that might be contrued as racist. Bush just moved into a racist neighborhood that prohibited non-whites until 2000, and probably still is. My point is you don’t have to look far to see their racism, and this is just another example.
    The same goes for the Hillary supporters that would rather vote McCain or not vote instead of voting for a black man in their own party. At least some of those were conflicted enough to realize they were democratic racists.
    I say great. Now we know who they are. Isn’t that what they were afraid of in the first place? And now that they are out of the closet, the stink of racism will stigmatize the republican brand from now on, and we will see those ideologies for what they are too, at least the ones they cater to.

  331. Kenny of Wappingers Falls, NY
    December 15th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

    Why is it unAmerican to want to know the truth?
    Why would a sane man pay over $800,000.00 to not produce a $12.00 document?
    Why is anyone who wants to know the truth an automatic bigot?
    Why do people not realize we may have been had?
    Why does the supreme court refuse to even discuss the issue? Is the constitution not importanat enough to bother?
    Do people not realize this man could be blackmailed by foriegn powers who may expose his illegal status?
    We must get this right before he is sworn in. The only way is for this
    man to stop trying to hide behind loopholes in the law and produce the true, legal sealed and signed (if he has it) birth certificate!
    That is the question. Does he have it? It does not take Sherlock Holmes to figure this out people!

  332. WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 15th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

    THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA WILL COME OUT OVER TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

  333. AEK
    December 15th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

    For the idiots. A lesson in civics. Should have paid attention in seventh grade!

    Citizenship
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. - XIV Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

    Citizenship is one of the most coveted gifts that the U.S. government can bestow, and the most important immigration benefit that USCIS can grant. Most people become U.S. citizens in one of two ways:

    • By birth, either within the territory of the United States or to U.S. citizen parents, or
    • By Naturalization.

    Enough said?

  334. ST
    December 15th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

    Maybe I don’t get it. How does being born on US soil with dual citizenship cause you to not be able to run for President? My mom was born and lived in the US for 44 years. She moved to Canada 5 years ago and has dual citizenship. Does this not make her a natural born American? Also, just because you have dual citizenship does not mean you have dual allegance.

  335. Ynot
    December 15th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

    No, we have’nt heard the last of this. There are numerous suits being filed against state canvasing boards that certify the election results and that award electoral collage votes. The suits are being done on a state by state level to stop the certification of the election and the swearing in of a new president. It only takes a few states to or courts to agree to hold up the swearing in . Obama should just clear it up before there’s a constitutional crisis and Bush continues to be president…

  336. Bill Charlotte,NC
    December 15th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

    Won’t these bigoted idiots ever give up?




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