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Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

We’re excited to release IE8 Beta 2 today for public download. You can find it at http://www.microsoft.com/ie8. Please try it out!

You’ll find versions for 32- and 64-bit editions of Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2008. In addition to English, IE8 Beta 2 is available in Japanese, Chinese (Simplified), and German. Additional languages will be available soon.

While Beta 1 was for developers, we think that anyone who browses or works on the web will enjoy IE8 Beta 2. Before the team blogs about our Beta 2 in detail, here’s an overview of what you’ll find in IE8.

We focused our work around three themes: everyday browsing (the things that real people do all the time), safety (the term most people use for what we’ve called ‘trustworthy’ in previous posts), and the platform (the focus of Beta 1, how developers around the world will build the next billion web pages and the next waves of great services).

Everyday Browsing

We looked very hard at how people really browse the web. We looked at a lot of data about how people browse and tried a lot of different designs in front of many kinds of people, not just technologists. As tempting as it is to list here all the changes both big and small in IE8, we’ll take a more holistic approach. That’s how we built the product and how we’d like to talk about it.

From our customer research, we saw that the bulk of user activity outside of web pages involved tabs and “navigation” – the act of getting to the site the user wants to get to. We also knew that adding features has an impact only if they’re “in the flow” of how people actually use the product. Another menu item might matter in a checklist on a blog somewhere, but won’t matter to real people browsing. That’s why IE8’s New Tab experience is so remarkable: it’s obvious – after you see it:

IE8 New Tab Page

IE8 makes bringing back tabs (and entire IE sessions) users have closed a lot easier; it’s in the natural flow of how users work. IE8 also takes into account that there are often relationships between new tabs that users open, and the browser can make it a lot easier to figure out which tabs go with which. Below, the tabs that came from the links in the search results page are grouped together and colored differently from the headlines the user followed off another page, which are different from links the user followed off other pages:

IE8 Tab Grouping

Navigation – or getting to where you want to – is a lot faster and easier too. Typing in the Smart Address Bar not only searches across Favorites, History, and RSS feeds, but provides a great experience:

IE8 Address Bar

We put a lot of different designs in front of users in order to find one that was this effective. It’s easy to scan, with the different sections marked off and one line for each item, and the highlighting is easy on the eye. Deleting typos (or other unwanted suggestions) from this list is also easy – notice the red "x" above appears when a user places his mouse over an item.

Beyond tabs and navigation, people use services all the time. When you have an address but want a map, or want to just select some text and make a blog post out of it, IE8’s Accelerators (formerly known as ‘Activities’) are handy. For Beta 2, we’ve worked with a lot of great partners to deliver a bunch of choices for users. They’re much faster and easier than the “select, copy, new tab, navigate, paste, repeat” process in today’s other browsers.  We think users will enjoy the consistent experience they’ll get from service to service, and appreciate being in complete control of which are installed and are the default. We hope that websites (and enthusiasts!) write more of them and give us feedback. Staying up to date with the latest information is a lot easier with Web Slices, that put information directly in your Favorites bar where you can get at it quickly.

This is a good moment to talk about performance. We think about two kinds of performance: real world and lab. In a lab, we measure performance in milliseconds. That’s important work, and we did a lot of it since Beta 1. You’ll find IE8 is a lot faster than IE7 on many sites. We can go through and detail, for example, exactly which Gmail operations are faster in IE8 than other browsers and vice versa.

Real world performance is about how people get their tasks done, and that’s something you don’t measure in milliseconds. We think you’ll enjoy the impact of IE8’s new tabs, Smart Address Bar, Favorites bar, Search box, Accelerators, and Web Slices on your daily browsing.

Visual Search in IE8 speaks for itself. Websites can offer rich search results as you type in the Search box:

IE8 Visual Search SuggestionsIE8 Visual Search Suggestions

After installing IE8, try out Visual Search from the New York Times, Wikipedia, Amazon, or eBay. (Many other sites offer regular text suggestions as well.)

Safety

Safety isn’t about technologies and features, but two words: in control. We think users should be in control… of their settings, their information, what code runs on their machine, of their browser overall.

Previous posts have described what you’ll find in IE8 Beta 2 with respect to the SmartScreen Filter and protection from phishing and malware as well as many other defenses. The XSS Filter is particularly exciting because it offers real people a real defense from a real threat, by default and out of the box. We’ve blogged about InPrivate previously as well. Taken together, these features do a great job putting the user in control of their information.

The reliability improvements in IE8 Beta 2 are big. Crash recovery is nice, but not crashing is even better. Because in IE8 Loosely-Coupled IE (LCIE) separates the frame (the address bar, back button, etc.) from the tabs, and the tabs (mostly) from each other, crashes are more contained and affect fewer tabs than before. We think users will also appreciate having close boxes on all their toolbars so that disabling ones they don’t want – while leaving the ones they do – is easier.

Platform

IE8 is more interoperable with other web browsers and web standards. The contribution of CSS 2.1 test cases to the W3C is an important in order to really establish a standard way to assess standards support. We think that CSS 2.1 remains the most important place to deliver excellent interoperability between browsers. We think developers will enjoy the improvements to the built-in tools, as well as the other opportunities to integrate their sites in the user’s daily life with Accelerators and Web Slices. You can find more information at the IE Development Center, http://msdn.microsoft.com/ie.

After deciding to default IE8 to the most standards-compliant mode available, we wanted to be sure to address compatibility concerns for organizations and individuals. Would websites that expect IE8 to behave the way IE7 does create a problem for end-users? Since March, we’ve been telling developers about a small change they can make to their sites to tell IE8 to show their sites as IE7 does. Many have – but there are a lot of sites that may have not yet addressed this. The Compatibility View button (new to IE8 Beta 2) is a good solution to provide end-users a good experience as the web transitions.

Some Important Details

Anyone interested in customizing and redistributing IE8 (the way others have IE7) can find information about the IEAK here. (We’ll have a more detailed post about IEAK and group policy soon.) One important aspect of a beta release is getting feedback; we’re using the same channels as described in this Beta 1 post (for example, this IE Beta newsgroup).

Read more about guidelines for upgrading to IE8 Beta 2 today. Also, If you are currently using IE8 Beta 1 on Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 with Automatic Updates turned on, you will receive IE8 Beta 2 through Windows Update.

Download IE8 Beta 2, use it – the browser itself, the developer tools, writing an Accelerator, marking part of your page as a Web Slice – and let us know what you think. 

Thank you,

Dean Hachamovitch
General Manager

Published Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:13 PM by ieblog
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# IE8 Beta 2 hits the streets

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:16 PM by andyBlog [andy britcliffe]

Details at the IE Blog here. Download it here.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:22 PM by Nick

Please please please give us the ability to turn off the Awesome Bar-style functionality.

All I want my address bar to do is auto-complete URLs.  That's it. No searching the history, favorites, page titles, etc.

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Download

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:25 PM by Giorgio Sardo Blog

IE8 Beta2 is live and available for the download ! Check it out here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/beta/default.aspx

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:26 PM by Cameron

Great stuff, looking forward to playing with it. It looks like you done some amazing stuff, well done guys!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:31 PM by 8675309

the ie 8 button under news needs to be updated to go to beta 2 or have 2 buttons 1 going to beta 1 & 1 going to 2

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:38 PM by 8675309

does the windows advisor beta internet patch work with ie 8 beta 1, 2?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:44 PM by 8675309

hate to ask this but with the fact that its taking longer to come to ieblog, ie download page right now are they going to have another prob simillar to the photosynth launch day fiasco?

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 released

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:47 PM by DotNetKicks.com

You've been kicked (a good thing) - Trackback from DotNetKicks.com

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:48 PM by Open Web Standards

Beta 2 gets 21 on Acid3. FAIL.

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:52 PM by No1 Microsoft Fan

We’re excited to release IE8 Beta 2 today for public download. You can find it at http://www.microsoft

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:05 PM by bla

How the hell do you remove the IE8 beta 1?

Because I have to remove the previous beta before I use this one... what a nuisance.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:09 PM by VIRTUAL PC IMAGES????

VIRTUAL PC IMAGES????

VIRTUAL PC IMAGES????

VIRTUAL PC IMAGES????

VIRTUAL PC IMAGES????

In case you didn't know, YOU can't install 2 versions of IE on the same box

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:17 PM by David Naylor

Wow, I'm quite impressed with the way you guys have more or less caught up with Firefox, at least feature-wise.

My question:

Does the smart location bar learn like Firefox's?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:17 PM by Kristen [MSFT]

@ bla

Please see Jane's post on Upgrading to IE8 Beta 2. The post is sectioned by OS.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/upgrading-to-internet-explorer-8-beta-2.aspx

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 now available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:18 PM by Notes from a dark corner

As it says in the title of the post. Read about it on the IE team blog . Read about it on the portal

# A Comprehensive Look at Internet Explorer Beta 2

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:20 PM by The Windows Experience Blog

Today, the Internet Explorer Team has made available Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 for all to download.

# IE8 B2 is out and aggiorno can help you get ready

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:22 PM by Samiq

ping back from http://bits.samiq.net

[... Just minutes ago Microsoft released its Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2, the latest public available release of its Internet browser...]

Congrats on this release guys!

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:31 PM by Harold van de Kamp .NET Blog

Today Microsoft released beta 2 of Internet Explorer 8. While Beta 1 was focused on developers to early

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:31 PM by E.Fahd

Hey,

- Great stuff guys ! We're all very impressed. Keep the work going :)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:33 PM by Slawek

Why IE8 doesn't have Download Manager?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:35 PM by Kevin

@bla

to remove IE8 Beta 1 go to control panel > uninstall a program  and then click "view installed updates".  Find IE8 Beta 1 and click uninstall

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:38 PM by 8675309

ie galleries addon extension section needs to have subsections plus it needs to list whos the developer a big company or a individual

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:40 PM by Peter

the new UI is disgusting, make it transparent like Safari - the whole browser windows is one style

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:42 PM by BAD EXPERIENCE

SO I HAVE TO GO INTO IE7 MODE TO GET THE DOWNLOAD PAGE TO SHOW UP FOR IE8 BETA2 IF I'M IN BETA1??????

PATHETIC

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:43 PM by Michael Griffiths

Looks good.

There are a few minor problems - CPU can hit 40% for minutes on certain pages - and the interface has locked up a few times, but those should be cleared up by release.

Of course, you're still missing some features compared to the competition; notable, built-in spellcheck, decent favorites management (you still have, basically, the IE4 dialogue), and there's no good way to switch between search providers to get different search suggestions (e.g. switching will load the results page; it won't show the suggestions, if available).

The lack of changes to Favorites really suprised me (particularly with the curious "Suggested Sites" option). Old interface, no new features - like tagging - no real ability to search favorites or history, etc.

On the plus side, WebSlices look cool, the Search Suggest right in the browser is nice, tab opening and switching is _much_ faster, and the Safety features look interesting (even if the UI for some - e.g. the Privacy Report - is still terrible. Honestly, a small non-resizable Window with no ability to search? Not good.)

The Activities - particularly Send with Gmail/Hotmail - are very cool. Quite the time-saver, even if it would be better if you included a link back, below the data. Like Microsoft OneNote does, actually. Currently you still have to copy the URL, so it only saves half the time.

Cheers;

Michael

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:49 PM by Ken

The speed is great!  AJAX apps are really fast.

I'm running into an issue with URLMON.dll, it causes the browser to crash on sites even in compatibilitiy mode.  I tried disabling all add-ons but same thing.  Any ideas?

Other than that, fantastic release!  I love the new find on page UI also.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:51 PM by Michael Griffiths

And lack of a download manager is a terrible, terrible, terrible, utterly egregious oversight.

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:53 PM by Devolio

You’ll find versions for 32- and 64-bit editions of Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2008. In addition to English, IE8 Beta 2 is available in Japanese, Chinese (Simplified), and German. Additional languages will be avail

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:54 PM by Viktor Krammer

Congrats on the new Beta 2!

Can you please make the new close button on every third-party toolbar optional? An option in the "Customize" toolbar menu would be nice.

Please also consider moving the "External Script Debugger" menu item from View to Tools where it makes more sense.

Also show the "External Script Debugger" menu item in the command bar under Tools. Currently, the entry is only accessible in the classic menu.

# I want to move things and stop wasting space

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:56 PM by Mike

There's a great big empty wasted space to the right of the Menu bar. I'd really like to move my favorites to the right of that. What ever happened to the modularity of IE6? Bring that back for some cool minimalist customization.

Or don't. That's more likely anyway.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:57 PM by Ken

Figured out the URLMON.dll error.  Just had to clear my browser cache.  I never did that before the upgrade.

To anyone who hasn't installed, clear your cache first.  Nice work guys!

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 is out!

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:04 PM by Student's Weblog

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 is out!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:09 PM by Will

Wow, crashes every time I paste anything into the address bar.

This is on a new install of Windows XP Pro. x86 SP3.. Crazy!!!

How did this get by?

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:10 PM by Me about things...

It was announced some time ago and right on time the IE team released the second beta of Internet Explorer

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:10 PM by Epic Fail

Tried to install... failed...

Symptoms of the problem

When you try to install Internet Explorer 8, the installation wizard finishes. However, you receive the following error message:

Internet Explorer 8 could not be installed. You must restart your system to confirm that any changes to your system are undone.

After you restart, follow the "Internet Explorer Troubleshooting" shortcut on your desktop to get more information.

--- yup, I got the link

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:13 PM by Fx

LOL, nice job at copying Firefox's Find bar feature and Firefox 3's address bar(awesomebar) too. Wonder what else did Redmond copy from Mountain View, just like Redmond copying Cupertino a lot for OS stuff.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:18 PM by 8675309

i got the Exploring Windows newsletter in my webmail & parts of the image header didnt load by itself

# Crashes under OWA 2003

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:18 PM by Roland

Great work, IE team! Love the new features and speed.

Unfortunately, IE8 instantly crashes when I try to open Outlook Web Access 2003. Can someone repro this?

Adding our domain to the compatibility sites doesn't help. The crash didn't occur in Beta 1.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:24 PM by Eli

The tab grouping is pretty cool but I think dragging tabs and having them become part of the grouping is a little weird.  I think you could add some better visual cues when dragging tabs.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:27 PM by Jack

Works great. I'm impressed. Didn't think I would be!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:30 PM by Oguz

Keep up the goodwork guys. Installed on Vista x64 no problems. I love the address bar list :)

@Roland

OWA 2003 works just fine on my pc.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:32 PM by Bernard

Any timeline on when the Windows Live Mail problem will be fixed, and when it is, will you guys make an announcement? Who's problem is it, IE or WLM? And from whom should we expect a fix?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:33 PM by Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Can we get some MSFT answers on this blog? please?

1.) New VPC image (when?)

2.) XP SP2 (yes 2) fails to install IE8 Beta 2 over Beta 1 (we all get that stupid link added to our desktops)

3.) Please fix this blog to only show the first 500 words or so of an article, then link into the rest.  We all missed a pile of information because of this shotgun posting today.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:36 PM by Chris Denman

This is fantastic! Everything I had expected of IE8. If it had a built in download manager my life would be complete, but there's always next time!

I wish the Inline Search bar navigated to highlighted links on pressing Enter. That's what Firefox does and I rely on it with it.

# good work so far - needs polish before release

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:37 PM by Neutral

**Please** consider adding 'Paste and go' to both the cool new address bar and seach bar surely very simple to implement, but very useful.

I know its easy to just press enter after you paste, but I think it's these little things that help make this browser better, and it's the little things that turn people to use Opera/Firefox.

Otherwise, very cool work indeed :-)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:43 PM by Tony Chor [MSFT]

We'll have the VPCs up later today.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:47 PM by Ben

Where can I find resources to start developing extensions for IE8? I checked the Internet Explorer Developer Center and there's nothing. Is there a site similar to ASP.NET with complete tutorials and sample code?

# IE 8 の Beta 2 がリリースされました

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:49 PM by ナオキにASP.NET(仮)

Expression Web Team Blog と IEBlog からです。 Public beta 2 of Internet Explorer 8 is now available! Internet

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:50 PM by Carlos

Some of the missing W3C features like proper event handling and HTMLElement can be found here: http://www.jslab.dk/projects.php

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:59 PM by imperator3733

I REALLY want the inline auto-complete feature to be put back.  Ideally, I would want it to fill in the url that I use most frequently, not whichever one comes first (it gets really annoying if I make a typo or the auto-complete doesn't show up before I press enter).  Also, I just want the address bar to have urls in it -- it is called the _address_ bar, after all.  Please put this feature back.  Thanks.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:03 PM by Jitendra

I love the new integrated debugger for web apps. its a big deal for developers

http://blog.sezwho.com/blog/2008/08/27/ie8-beta-2/

-jitendra

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:03 PM by Pivwan

Maybe a stupid question:

why do we need to reboot two times in order to update from IE8b1 to IE8b2?

# How to uninstall IE8 Beta 1from Windows Server 2008?

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:12 PM by <rakkimk runat="server" />

I’m using IE8 Beta1 on my Windows Server 2008 (and still have IE7 on my Vista box which is my primary

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:12 PM by Will

Anyway to start IE 8 beta 2 in "InPrivate" mode from the command line?

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 发布

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:13 PM by 真见

InternetExplorer8(IE8)团队正式在博客中宣布推出IE8Beta2,并可以在http://www.microsoft.com/ie8下载。WindowsInter...

# BUG in Live HOTMAIL

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:13 PM by Bruno Silva

I have a BUG:

i open Live Hotmail i see a bug in the presentation and writing of emails with IE 8

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:22 PM by jarh

remove the separator line between the favorites and add favorites to clean up the look.

# Story added

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:32 PM by Scoopigg

Your story was featured in Scoopigg! Here is the link to vote it up and promote it: http://news.kgrand.jp/IT/IE_8_2

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:35 PM by 8675309

for the person who asked for a dlm there is one on ie gallery

so far the install experince was good because i didnt have ver. installed http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/upgrading-to-internet-explorer-8-beta-2.aspx

its been smooth & fast experince so far

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:35 PM by jarh

hardly notice the domain highlighting the domain should be bold if you guys want user to really pay attention to it.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:37 PM by 8675309

turn on clear type if you dont notice domain highlight

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:54 PM by jarh

add website icon in the smart address bar that should make it easier to look for favorite website or history also

can you make a button for reopen closed tabs?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:54 PM by Asbjørn

You have now had two version of IE to correct this and it still doesn't work correctly - the scrollbar doesn't behave like every other scrollbar in Windows - there is no over highlighting. Please fix this. But it is nice to finally see a decent version of IE with standards support. Keep up the good work (and force people to upgrade from IE6).

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:55 PM by Will

Never mind, why i did not try -private is beyond me. ;)

he-he

Sweet: "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff -private www.google.com

Now just finding a way to make that the default for all of IE. :)

Messing around with [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{871C5380-42A0-1069-A2EA-08002B30309D}\shell] and [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{871C5380-42A0-1069-A2EA-08002B30309D}\shell] have no effect. :(

Any thoughts?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:57 PM by hank

@8675309 re: clear type

You mean turn it off, right?

Cause with FuzzyType[TM] turned on, everything looks like bold text because each character is wider than normal.

Not to mention the rainbow of colors you see with black text on white, and white text on black.

The TV industry learned this years ago, but apparently MSFT thinks they are smarter and can solve a Black and White issue by inserting color. Which just equals fail.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:05 PM by Jeff Schiller

"Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper":

"Please fix this blog to only show the first 500 words or so of an article, then link into the rest.  We all missed a pile of information because of this shotgun posting today"

It just goes to show that assumptions are dangerous.  My assumption was that most of us are monitoring this blog using a Feed Reader...

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:06 PM by Will

O.K but this works:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{871C5380-42A0-1069-A2EA-08002B30309D}\shell\OpenHomePage\Command]

@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer\\iexplore.exe\" -extoff -private www.google.com"

So now its the default. hehe But still I was hoping to simply add another content entry rather than making it the default. I was looking to do both. ;)

Sweet!!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:14 PM by Daniel Wijk

Still waiting for some sort of opacity functionality. Is this included in IE8 b2?

I think its terribly wasteful to release yet another verison of IE that cannot support the more used aspects of the web in a standard fascion.

IE8 will be another "we have to do a workaround" browser that will mess up my work.

I´d rather MS dont release it at all.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:14 PM by Apostolos Tsakpinis

Any idea if and how opacity is going to be supported? It's still missing from Beta 2 and is a big showstopper for many people.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:17 PM by 8675309

cleartype is much better system wide unlike macs or safari witch dont have any way of fixing these issues

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:27 PM by Daniel Wijk

I use a Mac and (offcourse) dont use Cleartype. I also have no problems with text at all. I know of no person that uses a Mac that have any problems with text.

What problems are you implying that I should have?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:27 PM by Les

"It's still missing from Beta 2 and is a big showstopper for many people."

I think you're over-estimating how many people care. 99 percent of users won't. Therefore, it isn't a "big showstopper".

Oh, and more screenshots:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/ie8_beta2_xp.asp

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:43 PM by Dervis Kemal

Best version of IE yet!

you can tell theres a few bugs and its found a problem and closed at least 3 or 4 times but its in beta!

love the new inline search and overall search area, address bar and privacy features as well the security thingys which i dont notice, but i know are protecting me :)

a few things such as a good download manager, favourites centre and a bit faster performance/compatibility would be nice but you have already done some great work and im supposing these features will be laucnhed in IE9 or within the new version for Win7.

Great job, well done IE Team!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:43 PM by Dervis Kemal

Best version of IE yet!

you can tell theres a few bugs and its found a problem and closed at least 3 or 4 times but its in beta!

love the new inline search and overall search area, address bar and privacy features as well the security thingys which i dont notice, but i know are protecting me :)

a few things such as a good download manager, favourites centre and a bit faster performance/compatibility would be nice but you have already done some great work and im supposing these features will be laucnhed in IE9 or within the new version for Win7.

Great job, well done IE Team!

# broken standards promise

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:50 PM by Ken

In March, you promised to use the standards rendering mode by default. And now you tell us that all intranet pages will, by default, be rendered in the old IE7 mode? That's a serious breach of an important promise.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 PM by pkubaj

That browser would have been perfect, if there is download manager! But it's very good as is now. One ask: will DM be included in next versions?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:53 PM by Alex

Neither Smart Address Bar nor Search Bar do search in Favorites for me. Besides, if I have some shortcuts defined in Favorites (like "boa" for "Bank of America"), new address bar fails to open boa.url and navigate to the bank site.

How to report bugs anyways?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:03 PM by jarh

i uninstalled it because when i close IE 8 beta 2 the 4 iexporer.exe process is still.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:11 PM by Jeremy

"...how developers around the world will build the next billion web pages and the next waves of great services"

Wow, that's probably the most arrogant statement I've heard all day, nay possibly all week.

It's not like people will be developing pages *with* IE at all.  In fact, that might be an indication of why IE is so slow with standards adoption.  They might actually think that they are *the* browser.  I would say the great majority of web developers actual build their sites with Firefox as their default browser in development because of its standards compliance and debugging tools.  Then they test against IE because people often use it - and have to hack their pages to adapt to IE's idiosyncrasies.

It looks like it's going to be a good update for IE, but wow, it's amazing to me after they've been losing the web search battle and mindshare on the web for so long that they can make such a statement.  You can only say, "we invented the basic AJAX call mechanism" for so long.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:20 PM by Morten

What??? STILL no opacity support???

I thought Scott Dickens said it would be in beta2, but neither filter:alpha(opacity=50) or style.opacity=0.5 seem to work in standards mode.

Btw. just a note: When you get around to fixing this, make sure you multiply the alpha filter opacity with the alpha channel in PNG32 images instead of just throwing away the alpha channel of the image. It ruins our nice anti-aliased edges. It looks horrible in IE6+7.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:28 PM by r4dius

Hiya,

I'm really liking this new beta,

a lot of stuff that was on firefox and missing from IE is now present :)

Some stuff I think is still needed

-a password manager with possibility to show 'em and import / export,

-ability to reopen last tabs on startup + a shortcut button for the reopen thing :)

-security settings could be simplier, in firefox it's easy, in IE it's a pain

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:40 PM by Tys

Is there canvas support? Or will the Firefox team have to shame IE and build a plugin for this fundamental feature to move the web forward.

# download manager

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:44 PM by Greg

I would also love a download manager :o)

Plz

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:45 PM by Arieta

I found two major problems with Beta 2.

One is an aesthetic issue. The new tab graphics are nice, and I like how they are grouped by colors. However, the active tab is hard to spot. Because of this, I can accidentally pick a wrong tab, or accidentally close the wrong tab (with middle click).

The other one is more serious. In any rendering mode but the IE8 Standards one, there is a problem when highlighting page text, when the page is zoomed. The "middle point" that controls how the screen is scrolled up and down as you highlight, it seems to affected by the zooming. It will get bumped further down as you zoom into the screen more and more, the amount of this also depends on how long the page is (on a smaller page, I had to zoom in to as much as 300%, while this comment page does this even at 150%).

In extreme cases (very long pages), this middle point shifts so much that IE will think that I'm scrolling the window up, even though the cursor is at the bottom. The middle point is just too far away.

In milder cases, I can scroll down while highlighting, but the scrolling is much slower (as if I used the middle click scroll method, but only gave it a small nudge).

This makes the new highlight-and-use-accelerators feature nearly impossible to use on pages with quirk mode rendering - nearly all of the web at the moment.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:55 PM by Peter

With all these new options it looks very messy, too many things spread around, with little logic as to their position. I would like to see the ability of moving things around come back (like in pre IE7 versions). I would like to customize all the top bars, to have only the address bar and maybe one button that would give me access to the "rest" of the features. It just takes up too much screen real estate and it's distracting. Thanks.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:56 PM by Eli

Tys,

C'mon its silly to expect them to implement canvas, it isn't anywhere close to being finalized.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:11 PM by Morten

Regarding canvas: VML support seems to be back, but it's half-baked. It doesn't allow you to dynamically add VML elements through javascript. See (and vote): https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=333905

So no fancy drawing features for us just yet...

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:13 PM by Jason

What happened to right click on toolbars? Why is it everytime Microsoft updates a product, it changes the user interface and makes it harder to use? Why would you remove right click on the toolbar? I understand that this is a beta, but why would you go out of your way to remove a feature?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:31 PM by Arieta

oh snap

You can resize the favorites menu (the alt+c one). I've been wanting to do this since a while.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:51 PM by Ugly American

Does it support AdBlock Plus?

Does it support SVG?

Does it run on Linux, freeBSD or OSX?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:57 PM by Kim

I'd prefer it if you could customize EVERYTHING about IE8, from where you want your toolbars (address bar on bottom, middle or top), search bar to the left or right of the screen, how you want your history, notes, etc displayed, and how you want to arrange your bookmarked quick tabs like in Opera.  I've been using Opera for over a year now, and aside from the occasional error on a site (like not wanting to play video on cnn), I love it.  IE8 will have to work damned hard to convince me to switch over to using them exclusively.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:11 PM by Bob

Pretty happy so far. Congrats! FF was looking pretty attractive, but this should keep me on the platform. Download manager would be nice. More ability to customize would be nice. Finally, could we get a shift or ctrl select in "Organize Favorites"? It's really frustrating having to go to the favorites folder directly to bulk manipulate a lot of URLs.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:18 PM by Jan

Deleting an item from the not locked in favorites menu closes the menu after the delete --> should be fixed.

Deleting a folder from the not locked in favorites menu fails --> should be fixed.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:19 PM by j

I like the new beta but the three things that I would love to see are

1. a download manager,

2. a built in spell checker and

3. a better feed reeder. I would like to see a feed reader in which I can consolodate the feeds or preferebly read all of the feeds at once. And I would also like the feed reader to support keyboard shortcuts.

# IE8 Needs Canvas Support!

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:30 PM by Henrique

Please, we need the canvas tag support on IE8. Actually <canvas> is supported by all modern browsers, only IE not have...

To make a better cross-browsers applications, please, support <canvas>!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:33 PM by Cliff Koh

Hooray for IE8 beta 2 :)

@j

Yes I think a built-in spell checker would be so immensely useful :)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:36 PM by Jan

The 5 / 6 multiple choice questions at first run is just too much; please choose a default. 1/2 dialogs max!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:00 PM by wai

i am using IE8 in XP SP3 (x86), the website "www.crashie.com" still crash my IE. It is fine if I browse this web with IE7 in Vista SP1 (x64)

# 불안을 줄여줄 Internet Explorer 8 베타2!

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:02 PM by bkchung's WebLog

Windows Internet Explorer 8 Home page (홈페이지) Internet Explorer 8: Worldwide sites (다운로드) Internet Explorer

# a REAL solution

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:04 PM by Michael

sounds like a big wank. no one cares about "web slices" or "accelerators". why bother trying to introduce new non standard features when IE can't even render a page properly.

solution: package firefox with windows. scrap ie.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:15 PM by jarh

when i type youtube in smart address bar

when i select a website from smart address bar i see this C:\Documents and Settings\jarh\Favorites\Youtube - Broadcast yourself..url

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:15 PM by jarh

when i type youtube in smart address bar

when i select a website from smart address bar i see this C:\Documents and Settings\jarh\Favorites\Youtube - Broadcast yourself..url

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:19 PM by Gobo

Some Suggestions I have

The ability to spell check on the fly

Mouse Gestures

Customize the toolbar they way I want it like Pre IE7. Minimalist users likely want everything on one bar.

How about undo history in right click? Or an undo button?

AdBlock Plus support or Stylish/GreaseMonkey Support?

Keyword Searches: Right Click on a search box like YouTube, create keyword search and then search in address bar. No need to go to the original site to search for clips. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html

Download Manager

Add to Favorites and Feeds should be in the address bar like Firefox.

More tab settings like single windowed mode. Some like to have windows pop up in a new tab instead of a window.

SUPER DRAG AND DROP.  

Theme support

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:22 PM by Edward R

Nice work! A major release and some really nice new touches. But I have to echo the comments about organizing favorites. As a Vista user, it's embarrassing that Firefox provides much more extensive options - using the same organize/view menus from Vista - while the IE8 beta 2 dialog ignores Vista UI conventions, is limited, and virtually unchanged for eons. I realize you can't do everything in one release, but being able to properly organize and maintain favorites is pretty fundamental.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:25 PM by aldo

Totally awesome! This is going to give Firefox and all other browsers a kick in the behind and IE can now compete not because it is put on Windows, but because people WANT to use it!

Microsoft is back in the "Don't Mess with Us" mode :D

I think 1 more thing IE8 really needs is a built in spell checker :)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:47 PM by JAB Creations

With Beta 2 I was expecting a customizable GUI...where is it? Sure you can sort of change some stuff around but this does not count as a customizable GUI. Also the favorites bar needs to be able to be placed to the **RIGHT** of the command bar, you can only do it the backwards way! >__>

I'm not going to touch any other topics until you folks post more about Beta 2 as I presume most of the changes have been "under the hood".

So getting back to the GUI here is what *I* would use and set for my clients in regards to IE...

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3019/ie8betterguier2.png

Gotta love MS Paint, didn't bother adding all the defaults or every single item but it gives you an idea: file menu is *ALWAYS* at the top and visible no matter what. All the browser navigation and secondary controls are grouped together, first primary then secondary (feeds and etc) with the exception of the favorites menu which was actually one of the very few improvements in the "new" GUI.

Now there is a MAJOR clarification I should make: most people don't have screens that stretch to a width of 1920. If you reduce the width to 1024 I think a user-friendly auto-favorite's toolbar script could arrange the toolbar favorites to an open space. However at higher resolutions very few people are going to start tweaking 100+ character URL's.

A very useful feature that is in dire need would be a favorites bar text reduction script. For example when you go to a bank site and add it to your favorite bar you obviously don't want a four hundred character long title to displace all the other favorites you frequently click on. So for example "Bank of America" should be reduced to "Bank". As you can see in my example I've ported over my Bookmarks Toolbar bookmarks from Firefox (well a Paint copy and paste from another screen shot as the import failed on the initial run). Most of my clients prefer to have between half a dozen to a dozen instant links to sites they frequent and at lower resolutions this should all "snap" together nicely.

Besides optimizations to the JScript engine I'm not really sure what improvements have been made as far as support for DOM2 objects that are still missing (while there is now a post about DOM3). I'm interesting in seeing what progress IE8 is making towards adding more complete support for DOM2 as objects such as addEventListener are necessary to achieve cross-browser compatibility in the here and now.

There are still some major bugs with CSS...have you guys been working on Beta 2 longer then Beta 1? I'll be reading the upcoming blog posts carefully.

There are some very cool things I like that are new in Beta 2. Clicking on a different provider with an existing search query instantly searches with that provider (sweet!)

I

*****REALLY*****

*****REALLY*****

*****REALLY*****

*****REALLY*****

appreciate not having to close the browser to switch between IE8 and IE7! You have no clue how **immensely** happy that makes me! It also switches very quickly which is also greatly appreciated!

Line numbers in the view source window are greatly appreciated!

Listing the version of the rendering engine in the user agent is also greatly appreciated! However it is bugged, when emulating IE7 it still declares itself as Trident 4.0 which I can only presume is actually using Trident 3.0 at this point...I could be wrong, either way a clarification or fix please?

I haven't had all the time to check everything though that is what I've noticed thus far. I think (at least from my point of view) that there needs to be a beta 3 release before the final to get the majority of remaining issues clarified and of course tested. Still it's good work though I'll reserve my final opinion on Beta 2 after you folks clarify what has been done in the next few days.

Thanks for your continued hard work!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:48 PM by Juliano

Hey guys from the IE team, you made an amazing work....you're on the good way.

As Aldo said, "Microsoft is back in the 'Don't Mess with Us' mode :D".

This is really the better IE release.

Thanks for the amazing work.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:51 PM by 8675309

there are download managers on ie gallery http://ieaddons.com/en/ and for way to see all rss feeds try feeds plus frome ie enhance. i think this time ie dont need a emulate mode that much compared to the ie7 rc

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:52 PM by Max

Glad to see so many fixes! We've been busy updating Web Bug Track to ensure the statuses are correct.

In testing IE8 Beta 2 though a long-standing pain point in IE7/IE8 has driven us to file it as a bug.

http://webbugtrack.blogspot.com/2008/08/bug-342-connecting-in-ie7-ie8-takes-f-o.html

Can you please do something, anything to improve the loading speed of a new Tab.

"Connecting..." takes F-O-R-E-V-E-R!

For a Blank Page this is a major usability issue.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:53 PM by Sagi

about acid test..

looks like not have much change since beta 1 :

http://geeks.netindonesia.net/blogs/sagiarsyad/archive/2008/08/28/internet-explorer-8-beta-2.aspx

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:16 AM by IEFan

Well, I was hoping for a much earlier release of IE8 Beta 2 but it was worth the wait. The installation went w/out a glitch and so far, everything is working well. I like the new Smart Address Bar, search bar and other bits here and there.

I don't like though that when a recently closed tab is reopened, the new tab that was opened stays open. I think it would be better is the closed tab that the user is reopening again, should either automatically close or load the tab that being reopened.

Love tab grouping but the color scheme can get in the way of viewing a page, it's too colorful. Maybe a different grouping can be introduced, such as Windows XP handles Taskbar grouping.

Please add a spell checker to IE8. Yes, I'm sure there's an addon out there, but it would be better is IE8 had its own spell checker.

I guess that's about it (for now)...

Great job on IE8 Beta 2!

PS Oh, one more thing: maybe the Search Bar's name -- the one that appears that indicates which search provider you are using -- those letters are a bit too dark. Maybe you should make them a bit lighter, like in the Smart Address Bar.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:23 AM by Eduardo Valencia

- please add Mownload Manager!

-please add In-Line spell checking!

Great work guys! love IE8 beta 2!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:29 AM by 8675309

well i guess home routers web ui is standards compliant

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:40 AM by Mark Stephens

It still doesn't scale fonts when the size is specified in pixels, when on earth are they going to fix that, people have been complaining about that since IE6

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:43 AM by Eduardo Valencia

Facebook error when switching to compatibility view and clicking on a pesron name:

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Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/search_profile.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet.

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# IE8 unterstützt (mehr) Webstandards standardmäßig: Danke Opera! Danke EU! und -okay- Danke MS!

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:51 AM by patch-info.de

Microsoft hat sich vor der Veröffentlichung einer Beta-Version des kommenden Internet Explorer 8 (IE8) nun doch (einigermaßen überraschend) dazu entschlossen, die ggü. IE6 und IE7 standardkompatiblere Darstellung von Webinhalten standardmäßig zu verwende

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:52 AM by vaibhav

So if i have new tabs set to open a blank page, i would not be able to reopen closed tabs? is there something i am missing?

# Internet explorer 8 beta 2 now available - let the celebrations begin !

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:08 AM by WebWise

Its here , i was waiting for this day a long time (since beta 1 come out) :-) i hope that i will love

# google.fi broken in IE8 beta 2, google.com works

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:27 AM by fin

google.fi broken in IE8 beta 2, google.com works.

I press F5 repeatedly with this search:

http://www.google.fi/search?hl=en&q=uv-ansa

and sometimes the page shows 10 results sometimes 2-4.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:28 AM by Soum

IE8 is shaping up to be a great release. Really impressed.

Just one thing though. The new tabs page (about:tabs) could really do with a list of most visited pages. Since I am likely to stay within that group a large chunk of the times, providing easy access to it would help a lot.

Other nice to haves: A "Find All" option in the quick find toolbar. A bookmark/feeds manager that supports at least two-pane view (left pane to list the folders, right pane fore bookmarks/feeds). And a download manager - with simple cross session resume should be enough for first iteration.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:34 AM by Nikhil

Hi.

gud to see scha nice features..!!

but still sme thng is mising and MS IE Team is ignoreing it..

1. Download Manager.

2. Improve UI.

3. etc....

hoping all these n more b their in final or nxt beta version.. of ie8..

all the best..

and thnx for IE8 Beta2

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:37 AM by Hammad

Wow! Fantastic job... Congrats to IE Team on this release...

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:48 AM by Yoshiro YONEYA

Domain name highlighting in address bar doesn't work for IDNs.

For example, please try following URLs:

http://日本語ドメイン名協会.jp/

http://例え.テスト/

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:48 AM by hklm

Dean--

I wonder if you all are getting reports that installation of IE8 Beta 2 is causing IE not to run and what happens to me is that when I type in a url I get a window that IE is shutting down and a notification area bubble that DEP has shut IE 8 down.  I discussed this when it happened in IE7 to me on a Vista SP1 box and the workaround I found was to go to the DEP tab and make an exception that DEP could not run while IE is used. It worked. It did not work with IE8 Beta 2. I tried without add ons--no help. I couldn't use IE7 mode. A window would not pop up. Event viewer provided no info at all.  I discussed this with someone on your team when it happened in IE7. I think they said they would be interested if it happened with IE8; it has and if it did to send the logs.  The problem is I've looked everywhere in Windows and could not find log #1. Not in C:\Windows; not in C:\Windows System32; not in C:Program Files where the IE folder lives.

I sure would like to find the logs and I sure would like to suggest an MSKB that indexes where everyone of the ectopically scattered logs in Windows lives.

I will now try to look around C:\Users\My Name\App Data Local, Low, and Roaming.  Also some of the logs you do find have off the wall file extensions and aren't easily opened.  None of them I saw are intuitively labled as IE logs.  The fact someone on your team asked for them means they exist. I just can't find them.  I'd be interested in knowing how many IE8Beta 2 shutdowns you all are hearing about or can repro that give the bubble "DEP shut down IE for your protetion."

I appreciate your time and your team's time on the blog. I'm glade IE8 is working for most people. It wouldn't for me.

# Doesn't install

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:06 AM by Oliver

For some reason the German version does not install on my XPSP3 Professional.

It starts loading updates... fine

then MRT.... fine

Installing Main Components... FAIL

Installing Language Pack.... FAIL

And then it wants me to restart my computer.

This will happen every time I try to install. No matter how often I do that restart. Anyone else having this problem?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:07 AM by Lubos Motl

I am happy that the IE8 beta 1's incompatibility with DPI different from the default number is fixed.

However, IE8 beta 2 brings me new problems. For example, it doesn't remember the zoom: it always gives me 125% at the beginning, and I am not able to change it.

Also, when I start IE8, it tells me that an add-on (Google Toolbar) is obsolete, and whether I want to disable it. I disable it, try to erase it, but to no avail. The error message can't be eliminated. It consumes one (annoying) line in the browser.

How can I erase the disabled add-ons and get rid of the error message?

# Download IE8 Beta 2

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:12 AM by Angus Logan's Blog

www.microsoft.com/ie - ‘nuff said (because they said it all here ) --- now I can start taking screenshots

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:23 AM by Lubos Motl

OK, I uninstalled the Google Toolbar for IE using the Vista Control Panel, so this bug is now gone (together with the Toolbar). Still, it is surprising that there is no obvious way to delete the add-ons inside IE8.

I am still unable to change the default zoom level (from 125%).

So far I have also been unable to get any thumbnails in the Visual Search and e.g. English Wikipedia as a search provider tells me that "search suggestions" are "not available". Even though I have some guess what URL should be written in the column, I am not able to squeeze it there.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:28 AM by Nikhil

Hi..

i want to knw that inPrivate browsing features wrk on Company intranet also.

meanz wheter our browsing History, software download or any log store on server or n't..

plz i want to knw this ..

# re: Default Zoom Level

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:29 AM by Brian

Lubos,

Look under the Accessibility section of the Advanced tab of Internet Options.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:34 AM by sonicdoommario

Awesome release Microsoft, keep up the outstanding work!

Unless I run into any major or nagging problems, this is most likely going to be my main browser until the next Beta/RC (if any), or RTM. Keep it up!

Also, is full CSS 2.1 implemented in this release or will it be all finished by the time IE8 is final?

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:36 AM by Thoughts from Microsoft Ireland

The second pre-release version of Internet Explorer 8, the next version of Microsoft's web browser is

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:40 AM by Alex

i am impressed by the new Beta. All IE8 Needs left to me is a smoother and faster expereince, a spell checker, a better download manager, and a better Feed Reader. That's it. But continue adding these nice features. Any more and better preformence. i can switch back to IE from Firefox.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:49 AM by Mike

Make us forget IE6 with a great IE8, keep up the good work guys, and keep an open mind.

# Just eyecandy

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:51 AM by baloooo

Looks nice but is still only eyecandy.

Please move the focus to following the webstandards.

Today it takes twice as long time to write an webpage that works with all browsers compared to writing a page that works with all browsers except IE.

If you'r writing an advanced ajax-app replace twice with four or five times as long.

If you release IE8 pretending that it follows the standard the problem will only get worse because we then have to adjust our pages to work with both IE6, IE7, IE8 and real browsers.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:01 AM by Mike

Your address bar dropdown is better than the one in Firefox 3. Here are some of my suggestions:

Configurable what kind of items are shown.

Delete not only just one item, but also all items under one header.

Anyway, competition in an open market, you gotta love it!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:22 AM by Alexei

As already mentioned by Roland, IE8 Beta 2 crashes for Outlook Web Access 2003.

# Beta 2 breaks trident-based browsers ability to use IE8 engine

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:39 AM by Matt S.

Changing the app to dword 13880 in FEATURE_NATIVE_DOCUMENT_MODE no longer allows that app to use IE8 Standards Mode.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:45 AM by Michael Ens [MSFT]

@vaibhav:

You can also press Ctrl+Shift+T to undo the most recent closed tab, or right-click on any tab and see a list of recently closed tabs.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:23 AM by Robert

Is it possible to extend the Browser with .NET-based Addons (or will it be with IE9?)?

A nice integrated .NET API would be really great!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:33 AM by Daniel Wijk

Les: Well, when it comes to sites that IE8 users cannot use if they dont have access to any type of opacity I will add a buch of them.

Its one of the most anticipated CSS3 changes that are already in every other up to date browser out there.

It sad to see that IE8 still lags behind several years in CSS support.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:40 AM by axlan

awesome job guys....

Thank you IE Team

# meta의 생각

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:57 AM by metavital's me2DAY

마이크로소프트가 인터넷 익스플로러 8 베타 2의 일반 배포를 시작했다.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:58 AM by mocax

It's working good.

Seems to crash on some sites when there're Flash ads, but it recovered perfectly.  Nice work.

Now about the spell checker.... :D

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:58 AM by Jack Sleight

Two things:

When will we get a VPC image? The page (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en) seems to have been updated with "IE8B2-XPSP3_VPC.exe", but there's no download link.

And when will the people who emailed you about becoming a beta tester hear back?

# Developer Tools

Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:34 AM by Anonymous

I'm relieved to see the improved CSS support, but it seems the Developer Tools for CSS are now more useless than the old Developer Toolbar.

Is this going to get any better?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:00 AM by Mitch 74

Congrats on delivering a new Beta.

However, big bugs that were present in beta 1 weren't corrected:

- CSS pseudoframes still scroll back to top when a mouseover event takes place

- when mouseover event happens on a variable size DIV, DIV children may disappear on child's mouseout

And there are regressions now:

- 24-bit+alpha PNG images may disappear when they are used as background on elements that appear over a pseudoframe

- 24-bit+alpha PNG images may be truncated when used as background on fixed position elements that overlap a pseudoframe (the part not on the pseudoframe is whited out).

However, ghost margins that repeat box padding bug seems gone now.

Check my website (in signature above) to reproduce these bugs.

You still have work to do. See you in Beta 3.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:05 AM by Mitch 74

Still, some good stuff: generated content in CSS pseudo-elements now does work well!

Less CSS workarounds are needed (IE8 now can use Firefox/Opera/etc. CSS stylesheets, and mines are tricky one)!

CSS support is now very, very good.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:30 AM by Spriou

Nice beta ! Good job, Many new feature and CSS support are welcome.

Howerver, the downloads manager was not improved ?

I found a great and complete french review of IE8 BETA 2  here : http://www.depannetonpc.net/dossiers/lire_30_1_test-d-internet-explorer-8-en-avant-premiere.html?note=5

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:50 AM by Laurens Holst

IE8 now crashes on my website:

http://www.grauw.nl/

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:52 AM by Rowan

I have reported three CSS related bugs here:

* [brand new] http://test.rowanw.com/links-bullets-numbers-colours

* [oldie, still present] http://test.rowanw.com/wrong-cursor-hyperlinks

* [oldie, still present] http://test.rowanw.com/block-level-links-ie

New CSS support is great, but CSS bugs are more of a hindrance than a few missing features.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:53 AM by Pipo des Bois

It's beautiful, I love it; finally Microsoft regains the superiority it had when IE 5.5 was around. Great job.

I just hope you push that update to all WinXP users. We still have 26% of the world using IE6. What's the point of new versions of IE if the general public is left using IE6?

Other than that, great great job

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:01 AM by dasdasd

Wow, such a copy of mozilla firefox.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:04 AM by dasdasd

I think Microsoft took the source code from Mozilla Firefox - and its addons - and put it inside IE8's dlls where no one would know it was there.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:06 AM by dasdasd

One last thing, how many stylesheets do you use? I have to use

Good browsers

IE 5

IE 5.5

IE 5.5 Mac

IE 6

IE 7

IE 8

and how many trys and catches do you have to make to get AJAX to work in IE. Such a bad browser.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:25 AM by Phylyp

Very nice release... been using it 30 minutes and I like it:

The new address bar drop-down

Visual search

When I click on the search-provider icons at the bottom of the visual search dropdown, it loads the page - I think it would be more intuitive to just show the visual search results from that provider in the dropdown itself.

I like the new find text UI (like FF, but I prefer your positioning it on top). Question - why don't you integrate it with the search box on the top-right? When I saw the "Find on this page" option, I was thinking that it would reuse that search box, and not introduce a new strip.

Tab coloring/grouping - nice... but can you give us an option to customize/set colors for individual tabs (like Excel)?

The new tab page - didn't bother, turned it off in 5 minutes.

In the command bar, if I have only 1 item displayed with no text and then choose Lock the toolbars, that item cannot be right aligned - it leaves a little gap to the right. Not a deal breaker, but annoying.

Quick Tabs is slow to use for the first time.

I like the address bar highlighting the site name/protocol.

That's my 2 cents.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:26 AM by Yag Kohha

Answer for Will:

If U wanna run ie8 beta2 from command line in private mode use "-private" key parameter.

Command example: iexplore -private

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:26 AM by Mena

@dasdasd There was never a IE 5.5 for the Mac.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:31 AM by Phylyp

Umm... just noticed that tab highlighting (with pink, probably with other colors too) makes it a little hard to distinguish the active tab from others.

Why can't the tab color be a 3-4 px strip on the top of the "tab", like Excel does it on the active worksheet?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:36 AM by Pr3d

Every time i open the Beta 2 i receive this message and i dont know what i can do to solve it!

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8218/ie8ke1.jpg

# What to Expect from IE 8

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:48 AM by Mike Seidle

Yesterday, Microsoft released Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2. There are several important changes in the browser, the most significant being that pages designed for older versions of Internet Explorer may break in IE8. That is because IE8 defaults to a mor

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:55 AM by E.Fahd

The New Tab page (about:Tabs= doesn't work for me. It's still the same as in IE8 Beta 1. How can i fix this ?

# Feedback

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:14 AM by GZ

- "Got-To-Homepage-Button" belongs to the adress-bar.

- RSS-Feed button belongs to the adress-bar.

- The adress bar lacks a button for quickly adding the current page to the favorites.

- e-mail button could be removed. I don't use it and I don't know anybody who uses it. It is static and doesn't even show the number of unread mails.

# Feedback

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:14 AM by GZ

- "Got-To-Homepage-Button" belongs to the adress-bar.

- RSS-Feed button belongs to the adress-bar.

- The adress bar lacks a button for quickly adding the current page to the favorites.

- e-mail button could be removed. I don't use it and I don't know anybody who uses it. It is static and doesn't show the number of unread mails.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:19 AM by Brent

If you promised to go into Standards mode in IE8, why are you backing out on that promise now?

We fought you long and hard to correct this, and now you've abandoned it. - disappointed.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:24 AM by Fred de Boer

>IE8 now crashes on my website:

> http://www.grauw.nl/

Who cares.

Just checked in Firefox.

Your site is crap.

113 SGML Parser errors on one page.

Go fix your site.

# Feedback

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:32 AM by GZ

- "Got-To-Homepage-Button" belongs to the adress-bar.

- RSS-Feed button belongs to the adress-bar.

- The adress bar lacks a button for quickly adding the current page to the favorites.

- e-mail button could be removed. I don't use it and I don't know anybody who uses it. It is static and doesn't show the number of unread mails.

- the menu-bar should only contain symbols not text.  

- favorites-bar should be disabled by default and web slices should also be displayed in the favorites sidebar.

- adress autocomplete should be more customizable. I like that it searches the favorites but I still don't want to search my history (other people might like it exactly the other way around).

- favorites management possibilites are weak.

- no download manager.

- internet explorer settings are still the same. Make a more clear user interface.

- error messages on the left side of the taskbar are too cryptic.

- use the same interface for zooming as in office 2007.

- tab thumbnails are not live.

- what about thumbnails while hovering over a tab?

- only the browser history can be deleted automatically when closing the browser.

though this sounds all very negative, I think that it is a great and ambitious release.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:50 AM by Jack

Still don't see any VPC images available?

Can you please put up a page where these will always be published to for each release?

It is very annoying to have to wait for these.

@Tony Chor[MSFT] Uhm, "Today" has long since passed! ;-)

Waiting anxiously to test.

# Part I: Better Everyday Browsing

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:54 AM by IEBlog

Hi, my name is Paul Cutsinger and I’m the Lead Program Manager for the IE8 User Experience. As Dean mentioned

# Tried IE 8 Beta 1 and found it lacking? Check out Beta 2

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:17 AM by Conversations with the Communications Sector

IE 8 Beta 1 demonstrated some very interesting features like Web Slices but it was definately a beta.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:22 AM by wieweet

nice, the accelerators realy are ownage!! but he acid 3 fail of 21/100 is something you should realy work on of you want to own firefox's 74/100!!!!  the colored taps are very handy!!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:50 AM by Emil Ivanov

I'm impressed of IE8 Betdid a 2, you finally support old standards! But what about the new upcoming standard CSS3, why the hell you remove filter alpha and opacity completely. There are conditional comments which are non standard why we can't use filters there? This sucks!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:50 AM by Milo

Also waiting anxiously.  Looks like the whole IE App Compat VHD (VPC) page is now unavailable.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:12 AM by Wakaso

In older versions, the new tabs were opened next to the old tab. Why in this version when you open a new tab this tab is open at the end of all tabs? This is a great error. It's most usefull that when you open a new tab, this tab is open next to the old tab no at the of all tabs.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:30 AM by Aaargh!

Where can I find the OS X version ?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:36 AM by Joe

Also waiting for the VPC image. As noted, the "IE App Compat VHD" page is now down entirely.

# IE 8 Beta 2 ready for download , enjoy it :)

Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:39 AM by Pablo Peralta's Blog

Normal 0 21 false false false ES-UY X-NONE X-NONE /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:41 AM by John Raul Joven II

I am a web developer and I must say this is the best and most satisfying Microsoft product I've encountered for many years. Despite being beta, IE8 Beta 2 really showed off some muscles.

Here's first-time experience with IE8 Beta:

http://www.johnraul.com/wow-ie-8-beta-2-is-fast-and-sexy/

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:05 PM by Martin

Hello, Microsoft, wake up!?

What the heck is wrong with you people, the UI seems getting worse and worse every time you move a notch up. It really looks like **** in Vista. PLEASE pay more attention to the UI in the future.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available +Me.dium!

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:06 PM by Jenniferlauren

I'm Jen, part of the team at Me.dium. Yesterday, we joined EBay, Amazon, Facebook, Digg and Yahoo as a featured partner for IE8's Beta 2 launch.

We are so thrilled to be part of IE8, as our goal is to make the internet a more social place.  We've got a lot of exciting things going on like our What’s Hot WebSlice, Me.dium Discovery Accelerator, and Visual Search, (you can check out our search homepage at http://me.dium.com/search.)

For all the details of Me.dium+IE8 take a look at http://blogme.dium.com/content/2008/08/medium-makes-hot-stuff-for-ie8/

Thanks, and feel free to email me with any questions or thoughts on Me.dium: Jboyle@me.dium.com

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:11 PM by Fab

How long will pass before having ufficial installer of standalone previous versions of this browser?

I think my life would be better if I could test my work at office without spending time with virtual pc, tricks, registry changes.

Oh, I was forgetting. At home I erased my laptop with vista and installed Ubuntu. I should had to do this years ago. I just want you to know

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:17 PM by Tommy Wilde

Had to uninstall it on my XP at work. Given, that this computer is flaky and needs a clean install, but sites launched from address bar in task bar would not load. I'd get an error message, saying it couldnt be found. Plus, links in emails tried to open in windows explorer.

Works like a charm at home on Vista. I really like it. Not sure what the guy who was bitching about the UI was bitching about. Looks great. I do agree with the general comments on the colored tabs. And I'd like to be table to drag a tab somehow to create a new window with that tab, or a right-click open to open this tab to a new window.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:19 PM by Laurens Holst

> Go fix your site.

Ahahaha. Really, HTML parsers are not SGML parsers.

My site is perfectly valid XHTML, served according to the HTML compatibility guidelines from Appendix C of XHTML 1.0 (which is incompatible with SGML, but compatible with HTML).

And even if it did have errors, still the browser should simply not crash.

I’m really saddened by responses like yours. I really shouldn’t feed the trolls by responding.

~Grauw

# Download Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:20 PM by Vikas Ahuja

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 is available for download. You can download it from: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/beta/

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:36 PM by Sandesh

This upgrade is very impressive. Now I think IE is atleast competing with Firefox in terms of features.

Sandesh

# HTML 5 Elements

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:50 PM by Weston Ruter

So IE8 Betas 1 and 2 behave the same way as IE6 when it comes to unrecognized elements. This is a huge problem for forward-compatibility looking ahead to HTML5. I use new HTML5 elements in several projects and they work great in IE7 if a special shim (http://ejohn.org/blog/html5-shiv/) is applied. In IE6 and now IE8 as well, if a fragment with unrecognized element such as <nav>test</nav> is encountered, it is erroneously parsed in the DOM tree as three sibling nodes with the following nodeNames:

1. NAV

2. #text

3. /NAV

Whereas in IE7 and IE8 in compatibility mode parse then as follows:

1. NAV

  a. #text

Which is the same behavior as Firefox, Safari, and Opera.

Is IE8 going to be so rigidly standards-enforcing that it is going to be completely blind to the future?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:51 PM by Jing

I actually find IE8 fits my browsing habits (as a simple end user) better than Firefox 3. I'm not into useless extensions such as coloured tabs, but here they're actually useful.

The only extension I used on firefox 3 was the forex currency convertor that would convert highlighted numbers with a simply right click.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7908

Something like this should be implemented into IE8's accelerator feature in my opinion.

The speed has been much improved and the UI is quite good. I'd say the only work that needs done for me personally is to implement improvements to the

-download manager

-Bookmarks manager

I would like the ability to search through my favourites. With thousands of favourites, it does get difficult sometimes.

Well it's safe to say after switching to IE7 from FF2, I've now come back to IE8 after a short spell using FF3.

# Spyware.BaiDu associated with IE8 beta?

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:01 PM by Howard Larson

Twice tried to install IE8 beta and twice my antispyware program blocked BaiDu registry entry causing the installation to terminate.  What does BaiDu have to do with IE8?  

# Consumers Begin Using Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:14 PM by US ISV Developer Evangelism Team

The next beta for Internet Explorer has been released for broad distribution to the public, according

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:47 PM by hAl

# Internet Explorer 8 bêta 2 enfin disponible

Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:48 PM by Blog - Britoweb

La nouvelle bêta d'IE 8 est téléchargeable sur le site de Microsoft. Toutefois, parmi la vingtaine de langues annoncées, seuls l'anglais, l'allemand, le chinois (simplifié) et le japonais sont disponibles.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:03 PM by M. Coenen

Downloaded and installed IE8. Must say it's a nice browser. The only thing I'm missing is an option to start InPrivate by default.

And it would be very nice if my Windows Explorer doesn't crash every time I close a window (what is happening since I installed IE8b2 on my Vista B SP2 machine. Not funny at all.

# suggestion

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:05 PM by 8675309

i see they changed the ie beta banner link on the news navbar. but i think since people use the VPC alot it should be under news aswell or ie sites nav bar

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:10 PM by Laurens Holst

> IE8 now crashes on my website:

> http://www.grauw.nl/

Some details: I am getting a DEP (Data Execution Prevention) error. The crash occurs on both my Vista (NL) laptop and my Vista 64 (EN-GB) desktop, when I try to navigate to any of the links, or close the browser window.

Additionally, on my Vista x64 machine, the light blue-ish PNG background image looks very oddly striped, with green, red and dark blue. Could this be related?

The following is the DEP report on my Vista 64 machine:

Problem signature:

 Problem Event Name: BEX

 Application Name: iexplore.exe

 Application Version: 8.0.6001.18241

 Application Timestamp: 48ae8fee

 Fault Module Name: StackHash_fd00

 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0

 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000

 Exception Offset: 2f00706d

 Exception Code: c0000005

 Exception Data: 00000008

 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.6

 Locale ID: 1043

 Additional Information 1: fd00

 Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

 Additional Information 3: fd00

 Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

I would appreciate it if a Microsoft representative could confirm that they have logged this issue in their issue tracking system, or direct me to the correct place to report this issue.

Regards,

~Grauw

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:18 PM by 8675309

it times out avg from updating

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:25 PM by Daniel

@hAl

Actually, this testcase is wrong in line 28.

The DOM version of an boolean attibute is att="" and not att="att", so Firefox 3, Opera 9.5 and Safari 3.1 are right here.

It's just Mr Hammond who hasn't adjusted his testcase.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:34 PM by 8675309

so far i havent had a as many tracking cookies pop up in ca yahoo anti spy so ie 8 b2 is doing great job protecting my computer from common ad ware keep up the good work

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:42 PM by Angel Ochoa

Hi, great release, but in this page it encounters an error in line 318 of wt.js ( var anch=document.links[i].href+""; ) href is not implemented there ( and is not , great tool for developers ).

In Yahoo when try to select a message the click takes forever and i see the HD doing "something".

In some sites it is very fast, in others very slow and i don't understand why.

And finally in the add-ons manager would be great to have a Remove button there, not in the property window.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:00 PM by Jeff L

Still waiting for VPC images. Come on folks.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:07 PM by Luke

Ok, I got to say this: IE8 is a really HUGE improvement! Thank you!

Now all that's left is a download manager. Please, include it ASAP. :)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:18 PM by M. Coenen

Indeed, since I installed IE8b2, AVG can't update anymore. And uninstalling IE8b2 didn't cure the crashing Windows Explorer nor a non-updating AVG. This beta has just broken this Vista machine. May I suggest some little more testing before this is released for 'real' :)

# Please don't release this browser

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:29 PM by Rodney Yates

Please Please Please.

Skip this version. Come back to the browser market when you're on par with Firefox, Opera en Safari regarding HTM5 en CSS3.

Not supporting <canvas> is a joke. And what about opacity?

Don't you developers have any honour? Why release this IE8 browser when it doen't add anything new?

Sustained innovation.

It will ultimately bring you down.

And please buy Yahoo.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:49 PM by 8675309

canvas isnt widely used & the reason for both ie & some devs not to support it is because not every site has content that would require that type of technology

# OWA crashes with IE8 b2

Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:57 PM by Rob Reab

Just noticed that IE8 b2 crashes on my Vista Business sp1 box when accessing OWA also. Any news of a fix/workaround?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:12 PM by 8675309

it crashes when i close pogo game windows that use java

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:07 PM by Sid

Its a great leap fwd but when are we going to enhance the favorites management, its still same old style..please update the favorites management in ie 8 final version

# IE8 holding back innovation on the web

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:08 PM by Rodney Yates

> Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:49 PM by 8675309

> canvas isnt widely used & the reason for both ie & some devs

> not to support it is because not every site has content that would

> require that type of technology

You don't get it. Indeed <canvas> will not be used by a lot of people.

That is because the browser that has 75% market share does not support it! Not because developers don't want to use it!

The web is being held hostage by this browser for the simple minded.

Not supporting <canvas> holds back innovation on the web for at least the next 4 to 5 years.

Tell me IE team. Does that make your mommie proud? And uncle Fester?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:09 PM by Daniel

@Rodney Yates:

Please, please, please don't talk about things you obviously don't understand.

HTML and CSS 3 (the latter being modular, you know?) are far from being finished. Releasing IE8 with 100% CSS 2.1 (that's what they're working on) will make the life of so many people so much easier. You're crazy if you don't want to get this improvement out when it is finished.

canvas is secondary if not tertiary. opacity is currently not available, but the devs already stated that it'll be back.

The IE Team is working hard for the web, you should appreciate it. Besides, if you see bugs or want to make suggestions/requests, use the place that's meant for this: https://connect.microsoft.com/IE

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:38 PM by Rodney Yates

@Daniel

>Please, please, please don't talk about things you obviously

>don't understand.

>HTML and CSS 3 (the latter being modular, you know?)

Don't patronize me boy.

> are far from being finished. Releasing IE8 with 100% CSS 2.1

> (that's what they're working on) will make the life of so many

> people so much easier. You're crazy if you don't want to get this

> improvement out when it is finished.

I have been craving for these CSS2.1 additions and fixes in IE for years. Don't ask me to be happy now.

> canvas is secondary if not tertiary.

Of course! That's because it will enable sophisticated standards compliant media rich web applications.

> opacity is currently not available, but the devs already

> stated that it'll be back.

> The IE Team is working hard for the web, you should appreciate it.

Go wash your mouth.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:47 PM by 8675309

until sun java is on board im going back to ver.7

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:52 PM by Roef Post

Daniel wrote:

"HTML and CSS 3 (the latter being modular, you know?) are far from being finished."

Daniel, are you familiar with the phrase: "Implemented and widely deployed"? That's the current status of the canvas element.

Maybe you didn't notice, but the ways in which the standards are being developed by W3 HTML WG and WHATWG have changed. It's a constant process of invention, implementation, and standardisation. In that order. Canvas is implemented in 3 of the 4 major browsers.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:08 PM by 8675309

when i went to remove it ms put it under installed updates instead of what they did with beta 1

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:11 PM by Dave

IE 8 Beta 2 still havn't resolve the age old problem with IE:

Combobox with a fixed width, dropdown menu of the combobox need to be able to wider that the combobox itself to show all its contents, just like Firefox do.

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:52 PM by SETHnet.es

A pesar de su posición dominante Microsoft sabe que ha empezado varios pasos por detrás la nueva guerra de navegadores tras la llegada de Safari a Windows, las constantes mejoras de Opera y sobre todo los pasos de gigante que está dando Firefox desde

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:56 PM by Tony

Unfortunately, still not support for SVG. When if ever will this be supported?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:14 PM by Faramond

Also--please provide an option to allow XSS, or at least allow local scripts (with a path of file:/// or running off localhost) to do XSS. We do a lot of data scraping from the web, including dynamic, client-based/AJAXy web pages that can't be downloaded but only executed and rendered in the browser. We do a lot of work with local scripts, and XSS is absolutely critical to our work.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:18 PM by carlos

question to the IE team: do you use the Firefox codebase to add features to IE? they are very similar

If this is the case,do you plan to release a IE version for Linux ( EEE PC, Acer aspire one, or the like? )

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:26 PM by Daniel

@Rodney Yates:

> Don't patronize me boy.

Think about what you say, and no one can get you wrong. Shouting hate at the hard working team doesn't let you look mature.

> I have been craving for these CSS2.1 additions and fixes in IE for years. Don't ask me to be happy now.

We all have. So what? What happend can't be changed, but instead of living in the past we should appreciate the present day and what it means for the future. IE is evolving. They're trying to create a CSS 2.1 engine in 2 years (Opera needed 3 years for Presto and it's still buggy).

It's not what we want. Hell, the DOM currently is not really better than in IE6, but with CSS improving that much, our work (at least mine) will get so much easier.

@Roef Post:

> Daniel, are you familiar with the phrase: "Implemented and widely deployed"? That's the current status of the canvas element.

Canvas is not implemented in IE. The same is true for many other things. DOM 2 Events for example. Which do you think is more important?

Frankly, what do you expect from the IE devs? There's no magic, the team had to prioritize. And CSS 2.1 is simply the biggest goal long-term. It's the most important base for the design process.

With CSS 2.1, people will start to demand a good DOM implementation, which most likely will happen in IE9.

<canvas> is nice, but its really far from being needed as much as CSS 2.1 or a proper DOM.

Besides, it's not like the IE Team ignores CSS 3 or HTML 5 - they just implement those part of the spec they think are useful. Opera got Web Forms 2.0 (hawt) Firefox and Safari got border-radius and columns. Everyone prioritizes.

And imho it's fair to say "be happy" for what we get because else, we could stay with IE6 as well.

We may not like what MS did, but now we got the chance to help them and thus ourselves as well, but most rather start unnecessary discussions in unrelated blog comments. What do you think will help the web more?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:54 PM by griz_in_wa

I installed beta 2 and it worked really well except one HUGE problem LogmeIn IT Reach doesn't work.  Had to uninstall.  Bummer!!!!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 2:08 AM by Henri Heinonen

Hi!

Please, make also a Finnish version of IE 8. Will you?

Thanks!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 2:33 AM by Henri Heinonen

I mean: Finnish language version of IE 8 Beta 2.

Thanks.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 3:23 AM by Philipp

Hi! I just found out that there is a problem with "position:fixed;"-CSS. If you look on the elections site of the Austrian Broadcasting Corporation, you will see the logos at the bottom moving up and down. FF3, Safari and Opera act like I would expect it, my iPhone doesn't ;-) URL is http://wahl08.ORF.at

# It's the best version of IE - re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 4:08 AM by LiuYan 刘研

IE8 Beta2 is the best version of all version IEs.

IE8 beta2 是目前 IE 所有版本中最好的

# UX Improvements in IE8 Beta 2

Friday, August 29, 2008 4:49 AM by Canadian User Experience

Scenario1: when you browse the web for some foreign food, you come across words you don't know. You want

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 9:32 AM by 8675309

win blog has a tip article on ie8 except only the tip @ the bottom is new http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsexperience/archive/2008/08/29/customize-ie8-beta-2-to-fit-your-needs.aspx

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 11:03 AM by Open Web Standards

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/hakon_lie_ie8_interoperability/

Microsoft breaks IE8 interoperability promise

By Hakon Lie, CTO, Opera Software

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 11:43 AM by Dean Hachamovitch [MSFT]

@ hklm (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/internet-explorer-8-beta-2-now-available.aspx#8902837) -- would love to help, best way to get in touch with you?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 12:01 PM by James Shawn

I'm actually rather impressed by this latest beta. It has quite a few nifty features, some of which not available out of the box in other browsers. I wouldn't say it's quite on the level of other browsers yet but I can see you're working hard, hopefully you can keep going until the end and produce a really good final product. Well done, and keep up the good work.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 12:24 PM by Geld Lenen

I'm impressed to. Nice to see some progress in the browser!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 3:21 PM by Tommy Wilde

Uninstalled IE8B2 and reinstalled it, and my XP computer runs it great now. Ignore my earlier post. Love IE8.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 5:10 PM by David Crowder

You can try Microsoft. Keep on stealing and ripping stuff from other people. I'm very sure that FireFox will prevail. Never going back to IE again. Never.

FireFox does all they have and more, efficiently and without bugs.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 5:15 PM by Karl Dommershausen

Cannot work on my web sites any more with Publisher.  Does not reconize FTP sites

# IE8 Beta 2 crashes when you try to paste into the address field

Friday, August 29, 2008 6:39 PM by Jeremy Null

When you try to paste a any url into the address field IE 8 Beta 2 crashes.  How do I submit a bug ticket about this?  I'm trying to navigate through Microsoft Connect to find and apply for IE 8 beta bug submissions, but I can't find an application link.  Please help.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 7:05 PM by 8675309

i got a similar prob except when i cut an address it crashes

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 7:10 PM by Jeremy Null

ya, same thing here... copy works fine though.  Just cut and paste.

# IE 8 is better than I expected but has a big problem for the future

Friday, August 29, 2008 7:49 PM by Lyosha

After trying IE 7, I thought it was only marginally better than IE 6, and IE 8 beta 1 didn't impress me either, but after trying IE 8 beta 2, I was pleasantly surprised. IE 8 seems to be a pretty good browsing experience.

However, my main reason for installing IE 8 was to test my websites in it. There is quite an improvement in CSS rendering, but HTML 5 sectioning elements are still unrecognized and the tricks for enabling them in IE 6 and 7 don't work anymore. I think this will also affect new inline elements (such as mark), which will prevent fixes similar to the IE 6 abbr fix (see Fiks.html SVN repo on SourceForge.net).

They actually don't need to be recognized, but unrecognized elements should be treated as an inline container elements (like span) unless specified as block-level in the CSS (then like div). That will ensure forward-compatibility for the future. Or at least let the previous hack work again.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, August 29, 2008 11:09 PM by Lyosha

The problem with the html 5 elements isn't in the removal of the document.createElement hack (the hack still works), but IE 8 won't recognize the elements in the style sheets.

article {...} renders UNKNOWN {...} in IE 8. This should be fixed. And IE 8 still requires the document.createElement hack to "recognize" the elements in the first place (it just needs to apply external styles now, style attributes work).

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:39 AM by dbeergod

I can not open a link from a page in a new tab. It just shows "connecting" on the new tab for a while and do nothing. So what is going on?

# IE 8 Beta 2 ready for download

Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:19 AM by News

Mozilla did its best to throw a spoiler into Microsoft’s Internet Explorer (IE) 8 Beta 2 launch on Wednesday

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:30 AM by Lubos Motl

Thanks, Brian! Now it remembers the font size and zoom level. (Tools, Internet Options, Advanced, Accessibility.)

# Font size remembering

Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:33 AM by Lubos Motl

Thanks, Brian, now it remembers the font size and the zoom level. (Accessibility options in advanced Internet Options.)

Another problem is that I failed to install it on my XP SP3 laptop. It said "failure" and it uninstalled it fully after a reboot. I've seen a knowledge base about it but it's too complicated. Wouldn't it be possible to create a troubleshooting script that would try to fix it automatically?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:45 PM by Michael Magua

Nice to see how Microsoft ripped Firefox 3.

"We don't innovate - we imitate."

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:21 PM by Ben

Really good job, I really like it :)

# Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Image

Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:46 PM by ASPInsiders

Do you want to try Internet Explorer 8 beta 2? Or do you want to test your website with XP and Internet

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 yayınlandı

Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:34 PM by SiberKültür

Bu haberi görünce farkettim ki, bu işin içinde olanlar olarak sanıyorum bizi en az heyecanlandıran, hatta biraz telaşlandıran bir haber bu. Öyle ki, işin bilincinde olanlar olarak çoğumuz Internet Explorer'ı tercih etmiyor, eğer işin mutfağındaysak Inte

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:31 PM by Kiyoshi Aman

I'm a bit disappointed in the standards-compliance changes made between IE8b1 and b2, particularly the new icon for standards-compliant pages. Couldn't Microsoft validate pages themselves for standards-compliance instead of requiring a tag to get rid of the 'broken page' icon standards-compliant pages have?

Also, why are intranet sites put into compatibility mode by default? That kind of defeats part of the purpose behind 'standards-compliant mode by default', which is to chivvy people into writing standards-compliant (X)HTML documents.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:02 AM by Michael

I am having trouble with McAfee Security Centre when using IE8 Beta2. There is a blank window when I open the security centre.

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 download

Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:53 AM by Mirrored Blogs

From IEBlog ... We&#39;re excited to release IE8 Beta 2 today for public download. You can find it at

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:56 AM by heavyIon

Just installed IE 8 beta 2. Major no-gos for me: very slow opening a new window or even a tab; starts a separate 25MB IE process for every page link I click from in an external application; opens new links either in a new window or overwriting an already open tab, neither of which is the requested behavior of opening in a new tab. Sheesh, how hard is this? Back to Firefox. (Trying IE 8 because Firefox 3.x uses a lot of CPU when I open dozens of tabs even after the tabs are opened.)

IE 8 also installed itself as the default browser without permission (that I could remember giving.) At least, that was easily fixed.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:21 AM by 8675309

ie8 adds a rss notifacation tone option to go along with the powertoy feeds plus

# IE8 Beta 2

Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:38 AM by DT blogi

Microsoft hoidis kinni ajakavast, millest kirjutasime kandes Firefox 3 RC 2 väljas, IE8 Beta 2 tuleb augustis ning IE8 Beta on nüüdseks väljas. Käesolevalt annan ülevaate sellest, mida IE8 Beta 2 uut ja huvitavat pakub, kuid on lood jõudlusega j...

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:21 AM by YADmitry

Impressed by beta 2. Well done.

Found an issue with not all images being switched off via dev tools. E.g. this one will not be switched off:

<img src=http://somesite.com/somepage.aspx?imgid=12345>

It is a minor issue obviously but it would be nice to have it fixed.

Thanks,

Dmitry

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:53 PM by Lockon

When you close the navegaor ask the user to save the section and when you start the browser asked if you wish to begin in section stored or in a new blank or page top

Internet Explorer 8.0 Beta 2 has greatly enhanced in various Internet sites i read good reviews on the new beta especially for innovation, but even missing full support for CSS 3.0, HTML 5.0 and wc3 improve the speed of JavaScript

# Διαθέσιμος ο Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

Monday, September 01, 2008 3:43 AM by Ειδήσεις του dotNETZone.gr

Η Microsoft ανακοίνωσε στις 28/8/08 ότι ο IE8 Beta2 είναι διαθέσιμος για λήψη. Ενώ η έκδοση Beta 1 απευθυνόταν

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Monday, September 01, 2008 8:04 AM by j

Oh, wow, what great news. This gives me the chance to say

SHOVE IT!!

after the ordeal I had beta testing IE7, which couldnt even install itself, plus the search bar crashes that still persist, the loss of form data when allowing pop-ups from the notification bar, the inability to use the back button without redownloading the entire page, the smart-aleck attitude of developers in the forum who get more pleasure out of one-upping the feedback than they do from fixing bugs, so you have GOT TO BE KIDDING.

I was a holdout, I did not go to Firefox like everyone else I knew, but... last month I made the switch, so, hehe,,, no I WONT be wasting 75 hours testing IE8 Beta. Ye-ah!!!!

# Nope. Dont think so.

Monday, September 01, 2008 8:04 AM by James Sterling

Oh, wow, what great news. This gives me the chance to say

SHOVE IT!!

after the ordeal I had beta testing IE7, which couldnt even install itself, plus the search bar crashes that still persist, the loss of form data when allowing pop-ups from the notification bar, the inability to use the back button without redownloading the entire page, the smart-aleck attitude of developers in the forum who get more pleasure out of one-upping the feedback than they do from fixing bugs, so you have GOT TO BE KIDDING.

I was a holdout, I did not go to Firefox like everyone else I knew, but... last month I made the switch, so, hehe,,, no I WONT be wasting 75 hours testing IE8 Beta. Ye-ah!!!!

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Monday, September 01, 2008 8:15 AM by Rajesh R Nair

looks interesting, like to explore and know more about this.

http://artsrajesh.blogspot.com

# re: Crashes under OWA 2003

Monday, September 01, 2008 9:06 AM by Guido Walter

I can confirm, that BETA 2 crashes when accessing OWA2003 in premium mode.

There was no trouble with OWA2003 in IE8 Beta 1.

When dubbing the error with VS2008 - IE8 Beta 2 produces the follwong error:

Unhandled exception at 0x1a4a85df in iexplore.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x00000000.

Disassembly: 1A4A85DF  mov         edx,dword ptr [eax]

Error occurs with XP, Vista 32 and 64bit.

Hope this helps to fix it!

# Así será Internet Explorer 8

Monday, September 01, 2008 10:53 AM by iMàtica España y Latinoamérica

Microsoft trabaja especialmente en mejorar la compatibilidad de su navegador web con los est&aacute;ndares internacionales, as&iacute; c&oacute;mo en ofrecer mayor facilidad de uso y seguridad....

# Així serà l'Internet Explorer 8

Monday, September 01, 2008 10:57 AM by iMàtica Països Catalans

Microsoft treballa especialment en millorar la compatibilitat del seu navegador web amb els est&agrave;ndards internacionals, aix&iacute; com amb oferir major facilitat d'&uacute;s i seguretat....

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:46 AM by Anantha

I'm so disappointed. You've finally removed the one barrier that stopped me from moving to Opera: the tab key while typing URLs. The use of tab key to cycle through the matches is seriously changed. After a long 13 years I'll be leaving IE, can't live without my tab key. If I can't have my tab key, Opera sounds good for me. Good job guys, I didn't think it was possible to drive me out of IE but you did it.

# Problem of Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:35 AM by somebody

Y IE Beta 2 can't play youtube video?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:06 AM by Marc

Damnit - again RTL stuff is far away from working well. UL/LI is broken and don't show list elements and so on and so on. Nevertheless this Beta 2 is better then Beta 1 - it is very buggy in RTL.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:30 PM by 8675309

somebody the reason why you cant play youtube is because adobe hasnt made a flash plugin yet thats compatible with ie8

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:30 PM by Amy P [MSFT]

@ Failed to Install (over and over) - not a happy camper

Did you make sure to un-install IE8 beta 1 from the control panel before installing beta 2?

# View source page down, page up

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:31 PM by Sangean

Page up and page down buttons don't work in View Source window.

The View Source window also fails to remember the window size and position.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:52 PM by 8675309

i herd that google released their own browser called crome

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:58 PM by 8675309

from what ive read it has crappy plugin support like how firefox does when inexperinced devs. try to make a plugin & it doesnt work for everyones computer

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:02 PM by 8675309

from what i can see in the screen shots it looks like they waste space @ the top of the browser

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:16 PM by 8675309

google dont allow you to controll what update you get so their useing the same tricks as ms http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10030522-56.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:37 PM by Orchis

After installing IE Explorer 8 Beta 2, my Favorites no longer were visible and I could not use the internet at all. I finally uninstalled it after I found it at the bottom of the Control Panel. :-(

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:25 PM by Jeffrey

I'd like to be able to delete certain cookies, but leave others like firefox users can, from internet explorer.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:03 AM by Lefty

Right click "open in new tab" is gone? Middle mouse button is not an option for me. Switched back to IE7 + FF for some advanced features.

# re: Chrome Now Available

Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:44 AM by nelwa

Have you seen google's new chrome browser...I think you should be worried...it's pretty awesome!

# Redesign the IE8 UI!

Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:57 AM by Peter

The IE8 user interface looks so 1998 compared to the stylish and light Google Chrome look. Microsoft needs a real designer on the IE team and assigned to each feature. PMs are no designers!

The Office 2007 ribbon guys should redesign the IE8 UI.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:01 AM by Tamer

Crashes with OWA (Outlook Web Access)!

Please have a hotfix for that since this is one of the most sites I use in my browser to access my work email.

Thanks,

Tamer

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:48 PM by 8675309

from what ive herd chrome is cpu intensive when running flash just like ff

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:26 AM by Bruno

Regarding the complaints regarding IE's Favorites management: I say, dump the Favorites management dlg, and just make the "Organize Favorites" command open the Favortes folder in Windows Explorer.  It's much easier to just use Explorer to manage favorites.

(Incidentally, every browser I've ever used has horrible UI for managing favorites/bookmarks.)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:29 AM by 8675309

when are we going to see built in live favorites/RSS?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:14 AM by Tamer

Had to uninstall it.

Crashes everytime I open the favorite center, I had same problem with beta1 which made me uninstall it too.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:31 AM by Yaarik

I enjoy the browser but how do I re-install IE7 again now? I am  a tester and I need IE7 for our apps..

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:42 AM by HowieC

After installing IE8B2 whenever I clicked on the Favorites Center tab I got an "Internet Explorer has experienced an error and must close" message box. No error when I used the drop-down list from the favorites command on the menu bar.

I uninstalled IE8B2 since I am used to using the Favorites Center and couldn't get used to switching to the menu bar listing.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 5:52 PM by brwalias

Nice work on getting IE standards compliant.  I must confess this page is better browsed using Google Chrome! ;)

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:23 PM by Jon

IE 8 crashes alot. I'm staying Firefox 3.0 and Chrome

# [OFF] Chrome :: o novo browser do Google (Cool?!!?!?)

Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:53 PM by Mirrored Blogs

Corpo: Olá pessoal, tudo bom? Este post é totalmente off-topic, mas demonstra uma iniciativa minha em

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Friday, September 05, 2008 8:52 AM by john smith

what a nightmare. after install it wouldnt open.. ever. Kept giving some Data Execution something or other error. So, i tried to uninstall. Surprise surprise I couldnt find the uninstall option. I didnt find out till the next day when i got to work and could do a search that it was considered an 'update' so I had to look in a different place. Im betting 99.99% of people would do just like I did and go to the programs list like we have for the past god knows how many years.

that data execution thing should be more descriptive about what the problem is or have some option to turn it off altogether so it doesnt interfere when the browser loads up

# Microsoft further improves security in IE8 Beta 2

Saturday, September 06, 2008 7:58 PM by Harry Waldron - Microsoft MVP Blog

[l] The second beta version of IE8 was released on August 27th. It is working well in testing so far

# Microsoft further improves security in IE8 Beta 2

Saturday, September 06, 2008 8:06 PM by Harry Waldron - My IT Forums Blog

The second beta version of IE8 was released on August 27th. It is working well in testing so far. Only

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:02 AM by Ryan

One thing I do not like that cannot be resolved with any setting is the behavior of the search bar. Even if I turn off the suggestions feature of the search providers, the search bar will bring up suggestions from my browsing history. Even when I remove my browsing history this is so.

This can lead to divulging my browsing habits to others. This isn't about porn, though I am certain that will be a big issue for others, but as someone who presents to audiences from my laptop a lot I would like to not divulge that I am on Facebook, or LinkedIn or whatever...

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:17 AM by Ryan

Further to my last comment there is a oblique reference to this in the release notes - so what I'm to understand is that Windows Search will always index my web history and even if I delete my web history it's still in the index, and the only way to get an indexed web history item is to make it pop up in the "visual search" history suggestion list and then manually delete each item by clicking the red x?

Even in "InPrivate" mode?

You've got to be joking.

Pretty much any user is going to expect that when they delete their web history the web history is GONE. So, code something to remove it from the index, or at least let users go into Windows Search and stop it from indexing their browsing history.

Think also about locked-down kiosk machines in which the administrators don't want the previous user's web browsing history to be visible to the next user of the kiosk.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:44 AM by Mitch

lol Private Mode, AKA PORN MODE

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:06 PM by Ryan

Hehe, again that's not MY concern. But let's say I go to match.com, why would I want those I'm presenting to know I'm looking for a date?

The only way forward with IE8 I guess is to stop Windows Search. Goodbye fast results in Outlook. I rather liked that. But since you can't choose to eliminate history from Windows Search, that service now goes away for me.

Also, in a related note, the "new tab page" shows your history too. Only way around that is to turn off the bloat and go back to a blank tab page.

# Internet Explorer 8 베타 2를 사용해 보세요

Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:05 PM by Korea Evangelists

Internet Explorer 8 Beta2 가 나왔습니다. (위 링크를 클릭하시면 다운로드 가능하며 현재는 영문판이지만, 한글판도 곧 출시 예정) 인터넷 브라우징을 혁신적으로 향상시켜줄

# Kā izveidot Internet Explorer 8 accelerator

Monday, September 08, 2008 3:59 AM by Ivara blogs

Sveiki! Pagājušajā nedēļā nedaudz aplūkoju jauno Internet Explorer 8 betu . Neskatoties uz dažādām ar

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Monday, September 08, 2008 10:13 AM by Monkey Head

Why has the inline autocomplete been removed from IE8?

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:10 AM by Anthony

Why would you remove the Inline Autocomplete? That's a very cool feature ... that I really miss in IE8.

I do like the ability to duplicate a tab. It would be nice to be able to drag a tab from one IE to another though.

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:50 AM by id_Eric

Please accept all w3.org standards! For the love of god!

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:39 AM by Οι Ειδήσεις του AutoExec.gr

Κυκλοφόρησε ο ΙΕ8 Beta 2. Τον έχω εγκαταστήσει και τον δοκιμάζω. Εχω εντοπίσει κανα δυο προβήματάκια

# Prueben Internet Explorer 8 beta 2

Monday, September 15, 2008 1:16 PM by '

Desde que estuvo en beta 1, he querido probar el Internet Explorer 8. Lo instal&eacute; en una maquina

# Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available in 25 Languages

Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:09 PM by IEBlog

In August 2008, Dean announced the release of IE8 Beta 2 in English, Japanese, Chinese (Simplified),

# Customising IE8 to Drive Users to Your Website

Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:39 PM by Nigel Parker's Outside Line

I have been running IE8 as my default browser since Beta 2 was released a few months ago and I have been

# IE8: What’s After Beta 2

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:26 PM by IEBlog

The announcement of IE8 Beta 2 started an important and public phase of the product development cycle

# WhatNewIE8: чего ждать после Beta 2

Начало публичного тестирования IE8 Beta 2 ознаменовало важнейшую фазу цикла разработки ‑ получение отзывов

# IE8: What’s After Beta 2

Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:35 PM by Bink.nu

The announcement of IE8 Beta 2 started an important and public phase of the product development cycle

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