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B.J. Penn: I'm going to try to kill you, but it's nothing personal

With the debut of "UFC Primetime" on Spike TV just hours away, chances are you've seen the clip.

Set in a montage of training videos and backed by a rhythmic baseline, a focused B.J. Penn (13-4-1 MMA, 10-3-1 UFC) tells his upcoming UFC 94 opponent, Georges St. Pierre (17-2 MMA, 11-2 UFC) that, "I'm going to try and kill you, Georges, and I'm not joking about that."

Penn today told ( that he stands behind his claims -- but that it's nothing personal.

"In that clip they asked me what am I going to be thinking while I'm standing on the other side of the ring from him," Penn explained. "And if you're not thinking that in your head, then what are you doing in that ring? If you're not thinking that you're going to go across and you're going to kill this guy -- and you're going to annihilate this guy -- what are you doing there?"

The three-part series was produced in anticipation of the Jan. 31 mega-fight between UFC lightweight champion Penn and UFC welterweight champion St. Pierre. The pay-per-view event from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas has already been announced as a sell-out, but the hype surrounding the event, in which St. Pierre's 170-pound title will be on the line, will certainly reach a fever pitch in the coming weeks.

In the preview of "UFC Primetime," currently airing in heavy rotation on Spike TV, Penn goes on to explain what will be running through his mind in the moments before the two champions throw their opening salvos.

"We're going to go to the death" Penn says in the clip. "I'm not going to stop."

Penn said that despite the strong emotions, the mindset does not indicate anything personal against St. Pierre.

"This is not personal at all," Penn said. "I just want to be the best fighter. That's very personal to me."

Cameras for the Spike TV-broadcast series, which UFC President Dana White has said is, "the best television show we've ever done," have followed Penn throughout his preparation for the UFC 94 main-event bout with St. Pierre. The 30-year-old insists they did not hinder his training -- and may have actually encouraged him to push harder in his sessions.

"I'm used to the cameras a lot," Penn said. "But the cameras, honestly, they just make you train harder. They make you do stuff that you probably wouldn't do normally."

Penn is by now used to a myriad of cameras following his every move. The Hawaiian native has further documented every step of his journey through "The B.J. Penn Show," available for viewing on his official website,

", the website, is just a fun website to come and get in touch with other mixed martial arts fans and see what I'm up to," Penn said. "We've got 'The B.J. Penn Show' on there, and that's just a fun show. There's a lot of different mixed martial arts shows out there with fighting and all these different things. But here's a mixed martial arts show where we try to show off the local talent in MMA or any type of local talent we have. And I guess it's just a mixed martial arts show with a Hawaiian twist."

Penn said anything you might miss while watching "UFC Primetime" can be found on "The B.J. Penn Show."

"It's the home of MMA," Penn, an accomplished self-promoter, said of his website. "And if you want to know what's going on with B.J. Penn or what's going on in Hawaii, go to"

Spike TV's most successful UFC-related program has been the reality based series "The Ultimate Fighter." While the network is currently in preparations to begin filming its ninth season, former cast members of the show have claimed creative video editing sometimes leads to inaccurate depictions of their behaviors.

Penn said he doesn't know exactly what to expect from "UFC Primetime" but that you can immediately rule out one possible scenario.

"I know if you see something like me slacking, that ain't true," Penn said. "I'm training so hard for this fight. I'm going to be the champion. If you see some [expletive] like me slacking on the show, don't believe the hype."

"UFC Primetime" airs Wednesdays, starting tonight and ending Jan. 28, at 10 p.m. EST/PST on Spike TV.

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eddyr2ofanaheim on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:04 pm ET
got to love BJ!!!

JustMe on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:07 pm ET
Shoulda said that to Machida b4 they fought.

Go fight in Japan, PENN! And kill the program overthere!  Nothing personal...just end it!

ragefightingwear on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:53 pm ET
After this fight BJ Penn best pound for pound fighter in the world, only because the UFC won't let Anderson Silva fight at 205.

manta on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:36 am ET
the ufc does let anderson silva fight at 205. ask james irvin who broke his nose.

BigDaveyB on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:43 pm ET
You mean ask James Irvin whose nose he broke.

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:51 am ET
If Penn does win he should jump ahead of Silva in p4p rankings. I understand that Silva has to defend his belt but facing non-top 10 guys for how many matches in a row has to start affecting the #1 ranking. Same reason why Fedor lost his #1 p4p ranking when he was fighting lesser skilled guys not long ago. It's only fair and logical.

Kade328 on Jan 15, 2009 at 5:02 am ET

bob0126 on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:33 pm ET
I disagree on the point of dropping a fighter in the p4p ranks (which are completely hypothetical anyway) due to their lack of quality competition within their weight division.  Part of the problem of the perceived lack of depth in the UFC MW division is that Anderson has beaten them all.  He has cleaned out his division.  So people are calling for him to move up to 205 which does not do mostly out of respect for the MW belt (not wanting to do what BJ has done in putting the division on hold for almost a year) and respect for his good friend Machida by standing in his way of getting a shot at the LHW title.  If Anderson went up to 205 started cleaning the division out then there would be a very quick call for him to get a title shot possibly block Machida from his very long overdue shot.  Fedor was a slightly different story (and I mean very slightly) in that he has been free for the most part to match up with some of the best fighters around outside the UFC.  He did clean most of the division out as well in beating CroCop, Big Nog, etc.  At the time of Pride's demise there were a few HW in the UFC that could have posed a challenge (or at least thought would pose one) in Randy, AA, Timmy, etc.  Fedor was penalized in some people's minds the same way Anderson is now in that they cleared out their weight class and continue to win.  Fedor does have a few very good quality fighters in line for him to come but Anderson does not have any real MW competition to speak of inside or outside the UFC.  Sure there is Robbie Lawlor, Lindland, Mousasi among others that have made or are making a name for themselves but other than the "mma punchers chance" right now I would not give any of those fighters a very favorable shot at beating the Spider.  I do agree though getting a fight between  two top p4p fighters definitely gives the winner a huge boost.

Regardless of who wins this fight, do you really think that they are better fighter than either Fedor or Anderson?  I don't necessarily think that (barring a serious domination by one fighter) so in my mind this fight is really for the #3 spot on my p4p list.  If BJ (and to some degree GSP) had done to their divisions what Anderson and Fedor have then this fight would carry significantly more weight.  There are still plenty of LW studs out there for BJ and to a lesser degree WWs for GSP (I don't detract from GSP quite as much because he is not the one that is forcing this match up right now plus he is defending his belt). 

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:51 pm ET
Nice post! I agree with everything you say but I am going by how past history has shown what happens when you don't face top 10 competition. Fedor got booted so why wouldn't A. Silva get booted for the same reason?

I don't think Penn is better than Fedor and Silva if he beats GSP. Heck, Penn said he thinks Fedor is the best and one of favorite fighters to watch!

I also never agree with guys like Mir that say BJ is the best p4p fighter already. He was saying Fedor and Silva couldn't beat Penn at 155lbs. Nobody knows who would beat who at a fair weight and is just an assumption. You could say Penn wouldn't beat guys at heavyweight if he was at that weight as well.  It's kind of dumb saying who could beat who at a fair weight....What Penn does is incredible, the way he can beat heavier guys-- but Fedor does the same thing. He is a small heavyweight compared to most opponents. I always went by your streak of wins, how dominate you are and all aroud who you beat for p4p rankings. Based on all that I personally would still have Fedor and Silva over Penn and GSP(Both Fedor and Silva have been more impressive I think) but like I said history shows that if Penn wins he should jump past Silva. That's what I meant when I was saying that. Not saying I actually agree with it though.

FlyingElbow on Jan 15, 2009 at 2:05 pm ET
IMO if Fedor beats AA then hes back in #1 p4p. 

BJ beating GSP puts him at #2. and visa versa.

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 4:31 pm ET
That's a fair assumption. Back to back top 5 wins when you are already the number 1 heavyweight and considered 1 or 2(normally 2) in the p4p rankings..

mike2finch on Jan 15, 2009 at 8:51 pm ET
No, there is a difference. Anderson Silva isnt fighting top 5 guys because he has beat them all. for some, mulitple times. Fedor had huge challenges that he did not go out and fight. Like COUTURE. Like Lesnar currently. He has top tier fighters in his division that he isnt fighting, Anderson doea not, he is sitting ontop of the mountain, and anyone who comes his way gets finished off. Anderson is looking to fight in a higher weight class just for a challenge. THAT is impressive, THAT is #1 p4p. If BJ does beat GSP (Which he will not) he should be ranked #1 p4p. but dont worry about that..

GSP by TKO!!! or decision, but he wont give up 1 round. rushhh

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:12 pm ET
If there's on thing we all learned from the Primetime show is that, for some reason, GSP wakes up at 11 am, wearing tight silver shorts only.

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:27 pm ET
Oh, and that BJ's a lazy bum.  At least that's what they'd like us to believe (think Mir).

NickHavok on Jan 15, 2009 at 7:23 am ET
"I know if you see something like me slacking, that ain't true," Penn said. "I'm training so hard for this fight. I'm going to be the champion. If you see some [expletive] like me slacking on the show, don't believe the hype."


That was pretty much the storyline of Part 1!

But it was absolutely histerical how BJ blew off Dana White when he tried to call him. I mean wouldn't ignoring your boss while you take a vacation count as slacking?

I would think so.

I can't wait for GSP to destroy him.

Whoopsy_Poopsy on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:00 am ET
Who doesn't?

This fight is shasping up well.

SAUSED on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:11 pm ET
He wakes up at 11am because he's already training on vegas time

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:28 pm ET
> got to love BJ!!!

You couldn't be more right.
That's what I told my girlfriend.

PunchingBag on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 pm ET
they said he woke up at 11 cause he was training on Vegas time....

fmf58 on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:40 pm ET
You told your girlfriend you love BJ PENN???????

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:09 pm ET
I told her I love BJ

fmf58 on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:44 am ET
Ohhhhhhh!!!!!! BeeeeeeeeJay..beavis and butthead laugh:}

charlie4144 on Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 am ET
Gotta agree!

I use to not be able to stand the guy but he has won me over the past few years. "Livin La Vida Toca" BJ!!!

WASHINGTON28 on Jan 15, 2009 at 11:00 am ET
That little bastard has won all of us over dude.

jstange2 on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:05 pm ET
I love these guys.  BJ is so off the wall.

eddyr2ofanaheim on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:06 pm ET
there you go :)

linton2006 on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:13 pm ET
The BJ buildup show...

He's going to need eveything to get through GSP in this one...but like everything else in MMA...anything is possible...including GSP dropping BJP on his head!!!

Good luck to both...I like them both and want BJ to win but believe that GSP is actually going to come out on top...


crimthann on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:14 pm ET
are they following only bj? what about gsp? if that's true then bj will be in a lot of trouble. don't get me wrong, i'm rooting for my favorite fighter bj penn but if his training is well documented in this fight then gsp is surely gonna anticipate what bj is gonna bring on the table come fightnight.

kenjkun on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:29 pm ET
i think it's safe to assume that they are following both fighters in the same manner.  my guess is that there will be another article like this but centered around GSP.

crimthann on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:37 pm ET
yea, i think you're right kenj. maybe in the 2 part of the 3-part series. because if they are covering only bj that would be either too biased for him or giving an edge to gsp.

crimthann on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:38 pm ET
2 = 2nd


J-Poopy on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:14 pm ET
Let's go GSP!! J-Poopy's number one fighter will be in full force on this one boys! Cant wait, this fight is going to be insane!

whiteplainz on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:15 pm ET
love them both but gotta root for GSP!!!
keep the belt in Canadian hands.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:15 pm ET
I really don't think that fighters are in the cage thinking they want to kill their opponent. Maybe defeat them skillfully but kill? I could understand if he was using kill more as a dramitic word for punish but it dosn't seem that way.

I'm not a pro mma fight obviously but I have been in amateur boxing matches and never even had the thought in my head that I was going to try to kill my opponent.

Am I just way off and fights really think this way??

eddyr2ofanaheim on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:19 pm ET
no but BJ does...on a side note...i need some good jeans...can you think of a company that makes a good par?

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:23 pm ET
Haha you're a funny guy huh ?


eddyr2ofanaheim on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:24 pm ET
i try!

kenjkun on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:28 pm ET
I don't think you're way off at all, but maybe that's what it takes to be on that next level, which many people believe BJ is on.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:42 pm ET
Good point. But why do we never here anyone other fighter talk like this? Penn is just somewhat a little crazy when it comes to fighting! He is on a different level but I'm not so sure that level is sane!

themushroomwizard on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41 pm ET
If you're not there to kill then you're not there to win.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:48 pm ET
Man-BJ must be the only winner in mma!

endocet on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:20 pm ET
Only BJ penn can say he wants to kill his opponent without getting blasted on the forums

linton2006 on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:28 pm ET
BJ did say that Sean Sherk "was dead"...I think he psyches himself up so that he can't quit...otherwise he faces his own psychological death...if he loses that could be months of depression...

eddyr2ofanaheim on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:30 pm ET
Rampage anyone?

TAPOUTorSnap on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm ET
Well I've been in 2 amateur MMA fights (2-0 btw, LOL) and I don't think I've ever thought
that I wanted to literally KILL my opponent. I've thought that I wanted to inflict as much pain
as possible but not KILL. It is a really big adrenaline rush to be inside a cage across from your
opponent but I haven't let that rush make me want to kill my opponent. LOL. I'm a fan of 
The Prodigy but I don't understand the whole kill think. Just my 2 cents.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:41 pm ET
Nice to get a different prospective..thanks! I never even want to inflict pain if necessary. It's like what Rich Franklin said about mma :it's like a physical chess match and he never wants to inflict pain" or something along those lines. I want to win and win easily but not punish the opponent unless need be. Everyone is different on that factor but we do agree the kill is a bit much! :)

I used to be a huge Penn fan but he's been bothering me with always wanting to move around in weight. I think he needs to fully clear a division and then move up if that's what he really wants to do. Almost all his mma career he has done this. I mean Florian is just stuck waiting around when he is a clear contender. What's he supposed to do? Get rusty or continue to fight less skilled opponents? Alves even gets a shot before Florian gets a crack at Penn if he wins. If he beats GSP we might have to hear Penn calling out Lesnar!! lol..I should probally just stop talking though because come fight night I know I'll be a sucker and rooting for Penn anyways! :)

TAPOUTorSnap on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:58 pm ET
I also don't like the fact that Penn has been moving around in weight classes. It is kinda
crappy to think that if Penn wins, the LW belt will be on hold for maybe all of 2009. Dana
already said that whoever wins this fight will have to fight Alves for the belt guaranteed. I'm
usually not a fan of organizations stripping their fighters of titles but I think that if Penn wins
they should at the very minimum create an interim LW title because if not the LW division will
be on hold for a very long time.


stanley19 on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:09 pm ET
I've said this same thing all along.  I love the idea of the fight itself, but the ramifications of a BJ Penn victory could damage the UFC.  He'd be holding two entire divisions ransom.  Of course Alves gets first crack at the Welterweight belt, but Florain has been waiting for his chance at the Lightweight belt too.  We'll be waiting like when Rampage was champ and we had to wait 9 months between title fights (thanks to TUF). 

Oddly enough, with this reasoning aside, i'm such a huge Penn fan, I still hope he wins.

bigdmmafan on Jan 15, 2009 at 5:47 am ET
That is the only problem with this fight even though its gonna be awesome, if BJ wins either the LW or WW title, most likely the LW title, go on hold for a long time. I normally root for both BJ and GSP in their respective fights so I dont know who to go for, part of me wants to see GSP win so I can still see him domolish the guys at WW and keep his title and see BJ at LW crush the division and keep his title but my biggest problem is if and its a big if BJ loses all the BJ haters are gonna come out and say he is overated. Win or lose BJ is not overated. For some reason a lot of MMA fans think that if you lose to a top competetor you overated but its a what have you done for me lately sport. Look at Matt Hughes, dude dominated the WW division , and now I hear people saying he was overated. Whoever loses just realize that they lost to one of the greatest fighters. Maybe a draw would solve all my problems but then again that would really piss a lot of people off.

MeetyourMMAker on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:53 am ET
Promise you that I won't call him overrated.  He's a phenomenal fighter and would probably beat most WWs but GSP is a whole different animal. If BJ loses he is still the best LW in the world, no question.

Bonesaw0 on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:42 am ET
I really like the idea of an interim champion if BJ wins. But as unfair as it is to make Florian wait i think it would be just about as unfair if they completly strip him of the lightweight title

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:08 pm ET
> it's like a physical chess match and he never wants to inflict pain

That reminds me of when I was a youth and my buddy (who happened to be a meth addict in hindsight) asked me to drop him off at the beach around 2 am for community service (sweeping etc).
So after we park, we take a stroll (it was dark, obviously) and there were some four dudes hanging around.
My friend walks ahead to chat to one guy and next thing you know, they're in fist fight (I found out years later my friend tried to sell drugs to that guy and the guy decided he wanted them for free).
I was surprised to see fists flying.  Everyone's going "whattaf**k, whattaf**k!" (posturing).
My friend was holding his own and getting the upper hand.
It didn't seem honorable for me to join in (2 on 1).  Another person told me later that I wasn't a real friend for not double-teaming that guy, but I guess I had old-fashioned values about honor and such.
All of a sudden, the guy's bigger friend starts assaulting me too (it was one of those "that's another find mess you've gotten us into" moments).
I thought back to when I used to take karate, but I figured this other guy was as surprised and confused as I was, so I didn't feel I should inflict any unnecessary pain or damage.  I was actually concerned for this guy's well being.
Then I get punched in the nose once or twice, so I decided to take a more proactive approach.  I punched the guy in the temple a few times and I think it kept him somewhat off-balance.  But I wasn't looking for any finishing moves; I just wanted this crap to be over so I could go home.
Then the guy pulls me down by my hair (I had long hair) and tries to pin me down to the cement with his knees.
I figured "Great, a wrestler".  If this guy stomps on my head or neck, I'll die here and they won't find me until morning."
I came to the realization that this wasn't martial arts class, this was real life.  That dude certainly wasn't worried about me.
So I reached up with both hands and squeezed for life.  The guy let go (hopefully he's a father today) and we ended up leaving.
A few lessons learned:
1. Don't have loser friends
2. Don't hang out in dark places in the middle of the night where no one can find you
3. There is no honor in fighting, only survival / Dirty fighting works.  :)

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:25 pm ET
That was a good story(well maybe not for you) that I actually read all the way through! Normall I just skim posts for key points.

If I may ask how did a physical chess match make you think of this story? I suppose I can understand but when I brought up physical chess match I don't think I meant an all out 2am hair pulling/ball grabbing beach brawl!

Haha no offense so hopefully you dont take it that way! :)

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:29 pm ET
It was actually the 2nd part

> he never wants to inflict pain

I can relate to that.  It may seem like a contradiction, but not everyone feels comfortable inflicting pain.

CopperHeart on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:31 pm ET
Which apparently Anderson Silva is VERY comfortable doing.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:51 pm ET
Oh, I gotcha. I was a little confused at first how that came about. Yeah, I'm with you all the way though. I'm not a fan of inflicting pain at all unless necessary and then the ball grab move works wonders apparently! :)

CopperHeart on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:03 am ET
And regarding the first part...
> it's like a physical chess match
My story, of course, reads more like an idiotic checkers match with half the pieces missing.
I'm glad it was the last time anything remotely like that happened.

But constant decision making is certainly part of the fight game.
  • Reassessing your opponent
  • Reassessing your ultimate goal
  • Reassessing the tools at hand
See how it all comes full circle?

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:20 am ET
Ha! That's funny I was going to bring up that it was more like an amateur playing checkers against a master in chess! Both games are different but it's not hard to understand who wins nonetheless!

I think I understood from the part about it all becoming full circle it was just different how it all came about maybe. Ha-I'm not even sure what I'm talking about anymore! :)


CopperHeart on Jan 15, 2009 at 8:13 am ET
I guess I was justifying to the site admins that my tale of misspent youth somehow ties back to MMA, in a philosophical sense.

fmf58 on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:53 pm ET
Yeah its just BJ's style ,he even said so ,he likes to hype the fight in his own way.Its a bit dark but its not serious its just a splash of color.In all my mma fights[amateur] I was more concerned that my opponent wanted to kill me :]

JustMe on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:13 pm ET
At the end of their match...Mr. Buffer will say "and by way of Murder,     B   J             PENN!"

*Penn runs to GSP and lick his wounds for him!

mmafanforeva on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:25 pm ET
bj uses the words "kill" "dead" "destroy" etc. like it was nothing. always to hype up the fight and make it into bald blood. i dont seem to remember any of bj's recent fights save the stevenson one where it wasnt a grudge match. hates jens, hates hughes, hates sherk, etc etc. which seems all pre fight hype since hes bin incredibly buddy buddy with sherk as of late.

mmafanforeva on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:26 pm ET
bald blood rofl. i meant bad (obviously)

outlander78 on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:13 pm ET
Perhaps he has had no formal edumatcation.  :)

Some fighters are very well spoken, others sound functionally illiterate.  BJ Penn is one of those guys who seems to never have left his early teen years behind emotionally or intellectually.

Maybe he'll want to kill me to death to, as Goldie would say.

Dayzah on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:36 pm ET
Why dig so deep? =)

Im sure its just something he needs too think mentally too get too that place too actually fight somebody in a cage.

Im sure some ppl think of it as a dog fight for their life , Im sure some ppl look at the guy across and think that hes trying too take food from his kids mouth, or they said something about his momma etc etc =)

Its mental.

manta on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:43 am ET
it's just hype. i can't believe you bought into it. did you read in the article where it says BJ is a self-promoter?
you may question his words as it is, but imagine if he said something like

'oh, i want to fight GSP, but not kill him. i wouldn't want anything bad to happen to him.'

is that better?

ducknow on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:19 pm ET
.....and if GSP wins does he fight Spider?

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:20 pm ET
Alves first and then if he wins that it could set up a supermatch with the spider!

eddyr2ofanaheim on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:29 pm ET
winner of that get Brock!

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:43 pm ET
That's funny you said that! Read my post above I said if Penn beats GSP he will be calling out Lesnar!(probally Silva first actually)

fmf58 on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:55 pm ET
Do ya think Brock could make weight?:}

mamadude on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:04 am ET
If you cut him in half:)

manta on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:54 am ET
BJ penn 155lbs + kenny florian 155lbs = lesnar 300+lbs.

2 on 1, it'd be like sauron against sam and frodo

Dayzah on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:10 pm ET
Imho Alves still needs too fight Fitch again .. Fitch fin destroyed Alves in their first fight , no way he should shot before they fight again.. Doesnt make any sense too me since Fitch is still #2 on all the rankings and hes already beat Alves.

Fitch could easily run thru the same 3 ppl Alves did last year.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:12 pm ET
Agree all the way on that.

Trick on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:34 pm ET
Last I saw Fitch's face was hamburger on a bun!  Fitch got his chance.  Now give the rest a shot.  One style takes out another style.  Maybe Alves style will KO GSP.  U get beat..u need to wait in line again!  Stop wanting shots after shots of the title. 

Dayzah on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:12 am ET
If Alves cant beat the #2 ww why should he get a shot at the belt? Not only can Alves not beat Fitch , he got his ass handed too him the entire fight by Fitch ... He needs too beat Fitch too get GSP imho.  They should rematch too see who gets Penn/Gsp ..

vncs1954 on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:26 am ET
Hes not a #1 contender if he cant beat the #1 contender. Make him fight BJ then Fitch. In the meantime GSP could start fighting middleweights like henderson/franklin.

Dayzah on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:31 am ET
Who isnt a #1 contender? Alves?

DragonFist on Jan 15, 2009 at 3:07 am ET
ur logic makes sense about fighting Fitch before anyone can get a title shot because he is number 2 but think about it if thats the way it is then GSP wouldn't fight for a long time because Fitch can take out most of the WW before they get to GSP.

Dayzah on Jan 15, 2009 at 9:52 am ET
I just dont understand why ppl would want Alves as a champ when he cant beat Fitch , not only can he not beat him but got beat in a one sided beat down by Fitch ..

Imho FItch is the Gate Keepr  , Alves and Fitch should fight again too see who is #1 contender too fight GSP next.

They could have easily set up Fitch vs Alves 2 right abount now and they would be healed up at the same time as Gsp or Penn ....

What if Penn wins , wouldnt Fitch give him a good fight? Everybody is looking at it like its gonna be GSp vs Alves , it will more then likely be Alves vs Penn ... When Fitch vs Penn would make more sense , because hes the #2 ww in the world atm.

kenjkun on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:25 pm ET
in case someone is thinking about joining, here's a few things that annoyed me about the site.
the site sends news briefs about contests they have among the subscribers, which is ok but they send sometimes up to 3 duplicate messages about the same contest.
after realizing that the site is more like a myspace community than an mma related site, I unsubscribed from the site I still receive contest emails for some reason.  Then I flagged the messages as spam (gmail) but they still seem to come straight to my inbox.  Not to get too geeky but I had to finally add a filter for the site domain and create a rule to mark as already read and move to it's own label upon arrival to get around this annoying problem.

just a heads up.

snowshark on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:49 pm ET
On the site you can ask them not to send emails to you. I was getting lots of emails and then I changed the settings, I don't get any now. That site is definitely more of a myspace page but I like how it shows some up and comers. Overall I like it. Gives a combo of fighting and hawaiian life.

bravo2zero on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:26 pm ET
I respect BJ for his abilities as a fighter, but the killing stuff is nonsense. It makes him, and quite frankly the sport as a whole, look ridiculous. Very juvenile...

pettibone311 on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm ET
some of his antics i dislike- licking joe stevensons blood off his gloves- saying hes gonna try to kill gsp...


jasonacrow on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:40 pm ET
GSP will drop BJ several times in this fight. And BJ is going to be taught a lesson for 1-2 rounds. But somehow, I can see him squeaking out a submission or finding a way to win. I hate to say it, but a slight edge to BJ if it goes past round 3.

However, if GSP wins it will be immediate, fast and brutal.

larrinho on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:55 pm ET

I doutb no one will teach a leasson in this fight, I see it standing for a while with GSP scoring kicks and BJ getting inside and landing uppercuts and hooks, when GSP goes for the takedown we will see a 1 minute battle for a takedown, then back on the feet....I don't think BJ has the edge if it goes past the 3rd, GSP has way more cardio than BJ and that is a proven fact!!

Watch for GSP cuts though!!


MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:51 pm ET
People need to settle down about the hyping BJ is doing for this fight. He doesn't (obviously) want to actually kill GSP. He's hyping the fight and if he didn't, who would? Not GSP. GSP doesn't really say much at all. They're all in this to make money, BJ just happens to be a little more intelligent with his marketing by going right for the throat. In real life he's the most fan friendly, community oriented guy you'll ever meet. It's all just marketing guys; they fight people in a cage for a living....could you imagine if the conversation went like this:    

GSP: I really want to win.
BJ Penn: yes, I too would prefer victory.
GSP: I would much more prefer victory than you would.
BJ Penn: agree to disagree then I suppose.
GSP: indubitably.

Probably wouldn't be sold out.

MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:57 pm ET
Same goes for past antics and blood licking....etc....

It makes his fans go nuts and it makes his haters come on mma boards and talk about it; hoping that he loses his next fight; which they will pay for because they were mad he licked the guys blood last time.... the circle of life.

TongPo on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:06 pm ET
On point maui

Plus everyone knows how intense BJ is, this isn't the first time he's done something off the wall.  The mindset is everything for BJ, I can't immediately recall seeing any other fighter who truly transforms for a fight, and he's right - you have to have that killer instinct if you're going to fight and win, period.  Does he mean he wants to kill GSP?  Of course not, but this is the biggest fight of his life, and if he's going to win, he has to become that animal he becomes.  If he wasn't this intense before this fight, I'd be worried for BJ.

Plus, like you're talking about - this is part of marketing himself.  Look at all the top draws in the sport... it's not only because they are superb fighters, it's because they've built a legend, a mystique, to go along with it.  Some people, like Fedor, don't really have to try, they just are who they are.  He's so different, personality wise, than most other fighters, that he simply stands out, as-is.  Not everyone has that kind of aura about them.  Forrest wouldn't be half as popular if he hadn't also been very funny and charismatic.  It also didn't hurt that he was in the most watched UFC fight ever, and that it was an amazing battle, but for him, the personality is a big deal as far as his popularity goes.

I realize, Forrest doesn't lick blood off his opponents and what not, but I see that as more of his transformation into the animal, kind of a primal, tribal thing, and yeah, I find it disgusting, I'd personally be worried about contracting something, and... just.. gross!  But that's BJ!  Most fans want to follow him, in part, because they want to see what crazy stuff he'll do or say next.  He's not popular only for his talent, he's a wild-card, and for the UFC, an effing GOLD MINE.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:09 pm ET
Penn is only the really guy that talks the way he does and dosn't add more interest. It's almost laughable to hear the things come out of his mouth sometimes. GSP dosn't even talk barely and he is a HUGE draw so I would say this fight based on names would sell without all the bs talking.. I'v never quite heard any other cage fighter say the things Penn does. I'v brought it up before- If Rashad made claims like Penn it would be world war 3! Penn said he wants to try to kill GSP and he is not joking! I'd say he is being pretty damn serious. Yeah he hypes and markets himself but at the same time when it comes to fighting the guy is not sane at all. Outside of the fight you are right one of the most calm and cool guys, or atleast seems that way.


MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:16 pm ET
That's my point. He's not actually a blood thirsty beast; it's his character to hype the fight and, as TongPo said, his motivation to make it through the fight mentally. Which goes right back to the Rashad thing......Rashad does it all day every day, in the ring, out of the ring, in every interview, etc.... that's how he actually is, whereas Penn is doing it for all of the reasons stated above. After a fight BJ will tell you that he was doing it because he was hyping the fight; Rashad will just say "I don't know what the big deal is" and leave it at that. But please let's stick to Penn because I know I probably just opened a can of worms with Rashad fans lol

Also, I do agree that this fight would sell without BJ's antics..... but would it sell as fast as it did? Would the forums be exploding over this fight? Like I said, the hatred for BJ just means that more people are going to buy his next fight, hoping he loses. He is trying to sell more than this fight with the trash talking he is doing for this fight.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:20 pm ET
Rashad dosn't do it all day. Pre and Post fight he is all class and very humble. In the cage he likes to showboat.

Anyways, my point was Penn is almost like bi-polar. He is a different person fighting and is a blood thirsty beast. I think it is less character than what you think. But when the fight is over he snaps out of it. Going into character is one thing but he is just 100% different. Almost like day and night. If that is just character give the guy an Oscar because he is fooling me all the way. Didn't he say something in an interview already along the lines that he is not himself when he fights and has nothing to do with anyone except for who is his way?

I know it sounds like I am taking this very personal but I'm not. I just think he is litterally somewhat insane at times and not for the cameras. I wrote in another post that knowning me I'll still be rooting for him to beat GSP! :)

MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:29 pm ET
Oh.... well I figured it goes without saying that you have to take into consideration the fact that most people from Hawaii are a little nuts too :) It's a combination. But I think my original post was more geared toward people that are actually mad that he would make these comments when (whether it be just marketing, self motivation, a little craziness) there are reasons for it. Like BJ Penn is going to be the tipping point that hurts MMA's future.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:37 pm ET
True and nice comment about the people from Hawaii! Are you speaking about yourself as well? heh j/k
I actually agree with your last post a lot. I don't think Penn is going to hurt mma or anything like that. I just think he is truly insane come close to fight time(like how I swear he said he's not himself) and it's not all character. That's all I was really trying to get at not trying to say that he is the end of mma or even going to hurt it. Obviously, whether what he does is character or not people are loving it and buying it for the most part!

Come fight night I will probally have my bj penn action figure on display next to the tv! haha

MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:53 pm ET
Yeah this is another one of those fights that have been mentioned a lot recently where I really really really want BJ to win but all signs, unfortunately, point to the other guy. Should be a hell of a scrap though.

Dayzah on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:45 pm ET
Its a mental thing ...

Shouldnt nick pick everything little thing about him , bi-polar? lmao , we gonna diagnose him from something he said? retarded ...

Anywho im sure the reason its like night and day is you cant walk around town all day acting like a cage fighter , the things he says helps him get too that mental state too fight somebody like GSP for 25 mins..

Im decent friends with Rampage and he tells me all the time he can never remember the walk too the cage , he hits a mental zone at some point while warming up and doesnt come down till after the fight. I wouldnt call it bi-polar .. And the delirum jokes wouldnt be funny here , but yall can throw them in anyway... Hes been that way he said since he was born again.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:57 pm ET
I said bi-polar because I swore in an interview that Penn says he is not himself when a fight nears. The things he says is less mental and more insane. Hyping up yourself is a whole different story. But after fights he is a legit and calm guy. Almost like night and day-nothing retardted about it at all. I do agree some of it is mental of course.

Of course a fighter gets in a different zone before a fight. I have myself but not quite the way Penn does it. I don't care about this actions or whatever you want to call it. I'm just saying in my pesonal opinion he seems a bit crazy. Licking blood to hype himself? Nobody wants to see that at all. I have never heard one person, even if you are a fan of Penn that said they liked that or thought it was cool.

If your friends with Rampage(which I'm not doubting) tell that guy to come post on here! With his joking personality it would just be nuts on the boards! :)


MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:01 pm ET
I like it and thought it was cool! Not really but now you can't say you've never heard one of his fans say it ;)

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:26 pm ET

I only read the first sentance of your post and felt like a complete idiot. Just minutes after I said nobody likes when Penn licks his opponents blood and then someone right away posts that they do.  Luckily, for me I read the rest of your post! Must admit that was pretty good! :)

Dayzah on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:04 pm ET
Marcus Davis said he was going too shock some ppl at UFC 93 ( its a few articles below this one ), does that mean hes gonna walk around with a car battery shocking ppl in their cali ear? =) or maybe hes hyping what type of fight hes going too put on?

One says tomatoe and the other says tomatoe ..

I dont even think Rampage gets online , maybe myspace every blue moon.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:10 pm ET
Haha. I liked that. I guess people could think Davis was saying it that way but I hope not! :)
I suppose everyone takes and interepts things much different which should be expected. I don't know, I still think Penn has some crazy in him, just my opinion. Not saying it's a bad thing or anything and like I said to another poster I don't think he is bad for the sport.

But I do have to ask this just for jokes. Davis could be meaning that he wants to put on a shocking match but then what would Penn be saying? That he wents to pull of a killshot on GSP? :)

Dayzah on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:14 pm ET
I was thinking " A Killer Performance " .  =)

I would rank licking blood off his glove up there with jumping up on top of the octogon flexing , atleast one is original ..

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:18 pm ET
Hah. I was going along the lines of a "deadly performance" actually but oh well! Can't win em all!


I agree on the blood licking and see no problem with it. Then again I don't mind Rashads antics either!


Dayzah on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:22 pm ET
ya Rashad doesnt bother me either.

MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:18 pm ET
and Corey bro, I know you're one of those guys (like me) that just doesn't like a fighter that rubs you the wrong way but you have to admit, financially, BJ Penn is doing all the right things.

coreymb on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:22 pm ET
I'll agree with you all the way that Penn is a financial monster in terms of an mma fighter! Heck, on just his skills and the hype he gets from Rogan and other fighters is enough to make you want to watch the guy even if you never heard of him I think.

moondoggie on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:56 pm ET
seems to me like BJ is in a win win situation, if he wins he'll have 2 belts. if he loses then he'll still have a belt. if GSP wins then he'll still have only his belt, like to see BJ put  up something more  than just a possible loss.

any opinions??  thoughts??


larrinho on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:02 pm ET
this fight isn't only for a title in the mind of BJ, at least that's what it seems, I believe this fight has legacy and P4P recognition on the line, like Rogan said; it's difficult to find 2 of the best of all time in their prime at the same time and in this case we have the chance to see it...both GSP and B.J. know that they're the top dogs in their divisions, they probably want to test their abilities by fighting guys with virtually no holes in their games (fighters that  are very hard to find).

fmf58 on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:19 pm ET
Yo Moonie i agree with you that GSP is the one with every thing to lose as far as the belt and it does seem like BJ gets a freebie but on the other hand GSP is a stand up champion and has never backed away from the challenge and he keeps proving it time and time again win or lose he comes back a better fighter and shows the heart of a true warrior.Not taking anything away from BJ who also shows up,but like you pointed out if GSP wins he will still have his belt but with the respect that once again he put it on the line.I cant say thats true in BJ's case

Dayzah on Jan 15, 2009 at 9:55 am ET
If GSP loses , he wont have a belt..   White already said he if he wins he could defend both.

moondoggie on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:06 pm ET
a catch weight with both belts on the line would have been cool

CSARI0 on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:16 pm ET
This is going to be a great fight... I hope no BS happens like Cote vs Silva... not that that was a great fight... I'm just saying... I like to see one of these guys finish the other... no injury required.

I like them both... hmmm... according to their pros and cons... I'd say the winner will be the fighter that brings their A+ game.


AxeMRDRR on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:21 pm ET
i like bj, but i want gsp to fight anderson silva. he wont if bj wins. if bj wins he'll want to fight silva lol. oh well its going to be sweet either way. i think gsp will win gnp rd 3

fmf58 on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:51 pm ET
Whoever wins they will have to face Alves next but Dana White said he would not let BJ move up to fight Anderson because he's not big enough.By big he meant size/weight.

fightcrazy52 on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:23 pm ET
GSP is taking this one. BJ has very good striking, heavy hands, and great movement.. and of course some of the best submission skills in all of MMA.

The only problem i see is him actually keeping a good pace for 5 rounds with a guy like GSP. At LW, he might last, but at WW he needs to finish this fight in the first or second or else i think he's going to gas. Randy Couture made a good point in saying how much quality weight could BJ have put on b4 this fight. He walks around at 165 fighting at LW and GSP easliy weighs 190. Georges' strength will play a huge factor imo. Since their last fight, GSP has defintiely evolved more as a fighter and has many more tools. When they fought the first time, GSP was still young and BJ was already looked upon as a great in the sport. Personally, BJ hasn't changed enough to take on the calibur GSP is at right now.

GSP by TKO 2:50 of round 3

fightcrazy52 on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:24 pm ET
don't see him keeping a good pace*

BoxingDay on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:26 pm ET
Let's see...posters can't "bash" fighters, yet MMAJunkie can write bolded headlines quoting one of the sport's superstars wherein Penn states that he is going to "kill" his opponent? Yeah, that makes a lot of f-ing sense.

Penn justifies his threat as a motivational technique, that the desire to "kill" the opponent is the only proper mindset for an MMA fighter: "If you're not thinking that you're going to go across and you're going to kill this guy...what are you doing there?"

Only a poi-headed imbecile could fathom such reasoning, let alone utilize it.

michaeljamesmccabe on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:35 pm ET
This is the exact attitude that BJ (or any fighter) should take into the ring with them.

It's the ref's job to make sure no one gets seriously injured.  But, a great fighter should be trying to inflict as much damage as possible at all times.

Granted, this type of attitude is not necessary to win fights.  Fighters could just be thinking about out-pointing their opponent.  However, this approach is not fan friendly.  In my opinion, it isn't "fight friendly" either. 

I want to know that a fighter is deadly serious, and I have never questioned that about BJ during his fights.  The difference is that he is now training for his fights with that attitude.  This is not a good sign for GSP.

liljohnnie69 on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:36 am ET
Tell that to Ray Mancini.I bet that killing Duk Ku Kim was the furthest thing from his mind when he stepped into the ring but it happened.BJ should learn to control his mouth.He rates right up there with Matt Sarah in the head up ass foot in mouth department.  Fighters on this level should show some degree of maturity and respect (as TUF has shown us).
    I agree that the ref is there to keep someone from getting beat down too bad and the refs in the UFC do a great job(sometimes too good) and a fighter shouldn't quit until the ref says so,but talkin sh*t should have a cap on it.Where does he go from here "i'm gonna kill you and your family"? Just because you think something does not mean you have to say it and if you have to think that way to get ready for a fight it's probably an indicator that your not ready.

    I also agree that a slugfest is more fun to watch than a ground and pound (unless it's done properly) :) I hate to see a fight go to the judges (Griffin vs. Jackson) because 1. It's boring and 2. The judges can F up. Knock someone out and there ain't no questions.

    All i'm saying is BJ shut up,your a great fighter no one expects you to be diplomatic but draw the line at death threats,personal or not.

Kimo on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:37 pm ET
Both these guys are awesome and fun to watch, however, one MUST lose. BJ doesn't gas and becomes 1st ever, in UFC to hold two belts at the same time. JMO

Kid_Khaos on Jan 14, 2009 at 8:44 pm ET
 Are there trailer parks in Hawaii ? If so , BJ should go move into one. What a dumb thing to say . He sounds like an uneducated hillbilly. People wonder why MMA gets a bad reputation. I understand hyping the fight and getting yourself pysched up , but saying you want to kill your opponent is just dumb.  G S P , G S P , G S P !!!!!!!

nevertapp13 on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:08 pm ET
its going to be a great fight. for the people who got upset with penn for saying he was going to kill gsp
thay need to chill. for what i can get it is just a slang that every body says in Hawii for like beating some
one up. dont take it so personal.

i also think penn has a chance of winning, he is one of the best boxers in mma. he has a great jab.

as im writing this post im looking at the typing and it looks weird to me can someone tell me if i pressed
something on my key board to mess up my typing.

thanks junkies..........

MauiPimpin on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:17 pm ET
Looks fine. The shrooms are probably just now kicking in, that's why :)

nevertapp13 on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:12 pm ET
also if gsp wins i would love to see him fight anderson. but at what weight.

maybe a catch weight.

something messed up with my typing and i cant figure it
out and its really pissing me off.

can any body tell me what im doing wrong.........

nevertapp13 on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:15 pm ET
never mind when i hit submit and look at the post it comes out fine.

i know i sound crazy please forgive.........

kickyourface on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:17 pm ET
He just wants to be the best ever, is that too much to ask for? haha

AchesNPains on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:29 pm ET
I keep saying this over and over...and I won't stop until Jan.31st, and even then I will keep going on about it afterwards...

GSP WILL DOMINATE BJ! hahaha :) This fight is going to be pretty one sided.

Nothing personal BJ...but Georges is gonna bust your face up real good and send you back to 155...

Nothing personal ;)

THEWIKWAKDJ on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:40 pm ET
I cant stand the guys who talk shat before fights. but i still stand by first statement- penn by tko first round.

PunchingBag on Jan 14, 2009 at 9:55 pm ET
I wonder if I posted that I wanted to kill BJ Penn in a post would they allow it?

twodragunns on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:08 pm ET
Can't wait for GSP to shut squash head up ............ talk, talk, talk ........ Penns afraid and it showing ...... talk, talk, talk.

PeruvianNecktie on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:27 pm ET
Making death threats is illegal. Even if it is an MMA fighter talking. If BJ Penn does kill St. Pierre it will also be first degree pre-meditated murder, not manslaughter. BJ Penn should be banned from the UFC for making that remark. There is no place for that kind of sportsmanship in such an honorable sport as MMA. MMA is about honor and pride, not about lowlife intimidation and murdering your opponent. BJ Penn is the most pathetic punk that has ever stepped in the Octagon. That kind of talk is gonna have him looking over his shoulders for a long time. The UFC needs to sanction Penn and send on down the road. The UFC doesn't need this kind of crap that could get MMA banned in this country. BJ Penn will lose a lot of fans with that fat mouth of his.

TongPo on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:53 pm ET
Are you a lawyer?

PeruvianNecktie on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 pm ET
Wouldn't it be funny if BJ Penn shows in Las Vegas and gets arrested for threatening to kill someone in that state? What a pud. But, I would rather they do it after the GSP beats his ass good. Then after getting submitted by GSP, the Vegas police can arrest him for making death threats.

AxeMRDRR on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:32 pm ET
that episode was good until dana white showed up and ruined it...his mouth is really annoying. we get it, youre the tough guy, shut up

Cliffpickett on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:33 pm ET
Bring on the taper BJ is gonna smash him!

PeruvianNecktie on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:37 pm ET
After this fight he will be BJ Hasbeen. GSP will beat BJ like a red headed step child with A.D.D.

dedlift on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:37 pm ET
Just watched UFC Primetime...

Like Dana said...and I sure hope not...BJ may be surrounded by "yes" men, and Georges
looks to be surrounded by top notch trainers and partners.

Right now, I'm thinking St. Pierre is going to overwhelm BJ in every area. I want this fight to
be the epic five rounder...but, I have to say:

St. Pierre; TKO in the Second.

Trick on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:42 pm ET
Yeah, sounds like right now, Penns been talkin alot!  I hope he can put those in action and out whit GSP!

Trick on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:38 pm ET
This is what I see if Penn looses:
IF Penn looses, flips off UFC, go to Japan, own Japan, call out just about anybody there. Be KING PENN in JAPAN!

dedlift on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:45 pm ET

This "I'm going to kill him"'s BJ getting into some weird mental mind game...with himself. St. Pierre
won't be fazed by it period. BJ likes to say crazy stuff before fights...a way to hype and promote and get
fans all riled up to hopefully get more PPV buys. You know Dana loves this crap too.

But I'm with many of the above; saying and meaning are two different things. It's just over the top to me.
I see it as hype and hype only.

BJ better focus on a game plan and hard training instead of promoting or
he is gonna get dominated.

PeruvianNecktie on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:58 pm ET
BJ: Your honor, it was just hype. I didn't really mean that I was going to try and kill GSP. The Judge: Doesn't matter sonny boy, a death threat is a death threat. They all say "I didn't mean it", but making death threats is illegal even if you don't mean it. Bailiff, take Mr. Penn into custody. It's 2 years in state prison for the Hawaiian boy with the big mouth.

AFMMA606 on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:54 pm ET
Dana is so pissed that BJ is practically on vacation!, i love how they showed previews for the next show showing BJ chillin in the water and relaxing and GSP busting his ass. i truly feel that this fights means more to GSP than it does to Penn, but that could just be BJ's way of dealing with fights, i'm not in his head. this show does make me more excited for this fight though, good luck to both fighters, GO GSP!.

Canadian on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:58 pm ET
Well, after watching UFC Primetime twice (I was bored), I came to the conclusion that the UFC is definately going out of its way to make BJ out to appear as though he isn't taking this fight all that serious, in fact the only aspect of the fight that he is taking serious, is that of promoting it...and himself.

As well as they are positioning GSP to be the "dedicated warrior, with the heart of a lion". 

BJ has already been quoted for saying that he is training very hard and he is eating right and bla bla bla. 

I think this is all clever marketing, as well as it conveniently gives BJ a scape goat should he be beaten at UFC 94.   "I didn't train as hard as I should have and I know I'm better"..bla bla bla.

Just my observations on the show is all.  I do happen to believe that BJ is training hard, or at least harder than he has in the past, which is a good thing no matter how you look at it.

But...I do believe that no matter how hard BJ trains, he will be completely overwhelmed by the athlete that is George St. Pierre.


AFMMA606 on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:00 pm ET
yeah i agree with all of the above, especially the last line!. true the show pretty much reiterates what we all know, but it still assists with the excitement for watching this fight.

TongPo on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:04 pm ET
Personally, I don't understand why people think GSP is going to dominate Penn.  This is a great match up, and I don't see this being even close to a one-sided affair.  I realize that the last time they fought was three years ago, but even then, a so-called "out-of-shape" BJ Penn lost by SPLIT decision.

Both of them have upped their games and their conditioning.  This is going to be a different fight all together, and I don't really see it as a no-brainer like some of you seem to believe.  I realize GSP's conditioning is considered better, but when was the last time BJ went the distance?  Who's to say he can't go 25 mins, and who's to say that he doesn't finish GSP?  This fight is far from predictable.  Me?  Flip a coin, I can't really pick a winner here.

Canadian on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:14 pm ET
Well, I must say that the split decision win for GSP was impressive in 2 ways.  One being that it completely falsifies what BJ was saying about GSP being a quitter, for the simple reason that GSP lost the first round and then battled back.  Two is that GSP, in a weakened state, was able to take "the great BJ Penn" down at will.    Meaning the so called hardest man to take down, was easily wrestled to the ground by GSP.  Well...easy for him, not for you or I, lol.

I personally don't think Penn has made leaps and bounds in his skills since their last meeting.  I for one think that BJ is better at lightweight than he is at welterweight.  However, GSP has, and it is evident in his fights...minus the Serra loss which we have all heard plenty about, so I don't feel the need to reiterate all of it.

The point here is that, GSP was better than BJ Penn 3 years ago, not in the sense of boxing, because aside from the thumb in the eye (which is pretty bad on its own to fight through) but because he was an overall better Mixed Martial Artist.

Fast forward 3 years, GSP has gotten way better, BJ a bit better I suppose ( I admit he has plenty of raw talent), but none the less he may be a bit better, but he's jumping a weight class and he hasn't been nearly as dominant in this class as he is in the lightweight division.

Yes there is always the punchers chance, and there is absolutely plenty of reason to think that this is going to be an awesome fight, but in my opinion, GSP will win, because of everything I have just said, plus there is plenty more about GSP that makes him the best all around Mixed Martial Artist.

LoL yes I am biased as well ...haha

mmainukraine on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:18 pm ET
u know i always wanted to say that  even thought im fan of GSP but he does seem gunshy after serra fight. his striking is better than kos. fitches, and hughes. and he was looking to take all of them down. i wuna see the old GSP who could do as much damage on the feet as on the ground.

Canadian on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:22 pm ET
I understand the sentiment, but just look at GSP in his last fight, he beat Fitch down for the majority of the fight, standing up.  Pulling all sorts of weapons out of the bag.  Spinning back fist, superman punches, round house kicks, knees.  I think he looked gunshy against some other opponents, simply because he was playing their game...Kos is a wrestler, whom GSP out wrestled, and Hughes is also a wrestler, who he submitted.

GSP is definately striking, at least from his last fight it appeared so...

mmainukraine on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:27 pm ET
oh boy got standup no doubt. Ask fitch lol but he just seems more comfortable on the groudnd in top position than anywere else right now. if it works for him than by all means though

Canadian on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:29 pm ET
Absolutely, whatever wins the fight right?  And I definately think GSP will win this one, easier than some people are predicting.  I don't think there is any chance that this fight will go to decision.  And I think we are going to see a bloodied up Penn (typically he doesn't get bloodied up...for some unknown reason)

mmainukraine on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:38 pm ET
its his facial skin. some peoples skin is alot tougher than others. they can ge hit with an equal amont of force but not even show brusing soembody said that its fromliving in hot temperatures in Hawaii. could be true. his skin could get hardened over he years.

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:55 am ET
So true about the bring up of thickness of some peoples skin. My old sparring parnter could take a lick over and over and show only redness bruising or bleeding at all. Just all depends on the person for sure.

mmainukraine on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:04 pm ET
i thnk that they overhyped bj somewat. i dont belive the sh*t that he went into the rough neighborhood and fought anybody who challenges him. i grew up in rough country/city/neighborhood and i know how it goes down. even if he would be that strong and fight everybody who chalenges him, he would either be confronted by 250 pound guy who would beat seven shades of sh*t out of him or he wouldof got jumped and sent to the hospitall. after watching the show i became even bigger fan of GSP and i dislike Penn even more he seems like a rich spoiled kid. and i know PENN isnt talking about GSP quiting when he was pushed too hard.........  i think half of the stories about BJ on the show were BS. train half an hour per day?? what?? he woldof got killed no matter how much talent he has and nobody is gona convince me otherwise.

p.s UFC is countering affliction somewhat lol they are airing UfC 91 on spike on 24th.

PunchingBag on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:19 pm ET
I do admit I enjoy watching BJ Penn fight,but,ever since he started the sh1t talking with Pulver to the bloodlicking with JS and now the I'm gonna kill you comment I just wanna see GSP crush him.Maybe knock the inch-and-a-half of skin that Penn calls an ear off his sloth from the Goonies looking head.....but nothing personal : )

mmainukraine on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:24 pm ET
oh i enjoy watching the guy fight as well he has increible talent BUT hes ignoran, cocky, and possibly a liar. i mean man to man. could u tell me that u belive that one guy with BJ's cridentias (especially from rich family where he got anything he wanted) accepted challenges from everybody in the toughes neighborhood who had to fight for wat they have and win everytime with no consiquences??? or that a pro MMA fighter trains half an hour a day and beats ww champ who is concidered by alot the most dominant WW ever?? i say BS

agent_smith on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:43 pm ET
haha, totally agree with you, everyone in that tough neighbourhood must have worn polos and drove bmw's.  In the sh*tty neighbourhoods in my area, if you did that you would surely get jumped by 50 people, shot, stabbed and most likely from behind.  There is no honor, face to face fighting, they would truly want to 'kill' by whatever means and would laugh doing it.  Would loved to have seen Penn call people out here on a Sat night, lol.  Dumb ass.

mmainukraine on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:49 pm ET
yep. i know a guy one guy (not personally) he was one of the best streetfighters in town.  he was crazy good. didnt care about anything. he was always goin around callign people out. at the end he got jumped by 10 people. he couldnt get up after wards he was so messed up. and they were hitting (well more like kicking/stomping) him for about a minute. was never the same after. I would love for BJ to do that right now. i guarantee outcome would be basicaly the same.

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:21 am ET
Damn Ukraine you don't play around when talking about Penn huh?!   :)

mmainukraine on Jan 15, 2009 at 6:30 am ET
lmao cory what u meN?? i wouldnt want him to do it. but if he would come to my old neighborhood and started handing out challenges left and right he would really pay for it lol.

MauiPimpin on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:07 pm ET
Bro rough neighborhoods in Hawaii are a lot different than rough neighborhoods anywhere else. Nobody here has guns or trys to jump people 10 to 1 (not "nobody" but it's very rare). People here are just down to scrap, 1 on 1, to see who the better man is. I agree that anywhere else his story would seem far fetched but not in Hawaii bro. It doesn't matter if you're rich, poor, tourist, etc... if someone walks up and challenges you, you take it and try your best to win. Not saying I agree with this mentality but that's just how it is. You take the challenge and if you win again and again you gain a lot of respect and less and less people will challenge you. I believe what he said 100%....I didn't even flinch when he said it and I'm kind of surprised that people focused on that part of the show, but like I said, this aint the mainland. :)

agent_smith on Jan 15, 2009 at 3:59 pm ET
Wow, I wish all places were like that.  However, I would debate that the neighborhoods you speak of are technically rough.  In my middle class neighbourhood, if I challenged someone, hells ya, it would be one on one.  But that is not saying much, a middle class neighbourhood fight, lol.  Damn it you walked across my nicely manicured lawn haha.
In a true rough neighbourhood, these are hardened mutha f*ckas who probably truly didn't give a sh*t if they or you died in the process.  Can't say that in a middleclass fight, hells to the no!

mmainukraine on Jan 15, 2009 at 6:08 pm ET
Damn i wish in my old neigborhood people would fight one n one.  but i dont agree with it. because the biggest stronges guy alwasy comes out right. in my neighborhood people are always justifying their actions and words. if u cant u gona be in trouble thats the good part about it.

back to the subject htough. i still find it hard to belive that a small kid (he was wat about 135 back than??) with no boxing, kickboxing, or any sports background for that matter could take anybody. i mean mentality is the most important thing in a fight but its not the only thing. if some dude that weights about 200 pounds would come up to him and challenged him, Bj would be f**ked. i got to go with agent though. hawais rough neiborhoods do kindof seem like middle class hoods to me lol.

coreymb on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:55 pm ET
I just like how you tell it like it is. You had a couple posts about Penn and you were straight up about it all!

mmainukraine on Jan 15, 2009 at 6:12 pm ET
ha. well i kinda dont like the guy (u prolly noticed) and his little phycho mindset/advertising, blood licking, im the best figher in the world thing is kinda annoying. They made him like  a superhuman on that show that trains 30 minutes a day and than goes and beats Matt Hughes in his prime. riiiiight. i always try to say it like i see it. im biast towards couple of fighters though ;)

PunchingBag on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:47 pm ET
I agree I smell BS!

agent_smith on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:05 pm ET
Haha, GSP is the quitter?  lol, Penn never wanted to sacrifice, go through the pain, do that one more set or run that one more mile or even eat right in his training for his previous fights.  Anyone who has hit that wall of pain in training (regardless of sport) knows it takes everything you got to go that little bit further, to block out the pain, to block out your brain telling you over and over to quit, 'you will do better tomorrow'.  I am not saying BJ is a quitter but I think by the what GSP puts his body through, he definitely is not.

I am sure alot of people in here have puked (or close to it) from training, regardless of sport.  If you have gone that far you know what I am talking about.

Fight to the death, a priveledged guy would say something like that as opposed to someone who has had to do without.  More likely just hype.  Don't know the guy personally so can't say for sure if he thinks that way or not.

miamian on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:44 pm ET
BJ Penn,another fighter with great skills and a great big mouth to accompany those skills. Always trying to get in his opponents heads somehow, someway. Personally, I've always felt that when a fighter NEEDS to resort to tactics like talkin' trash and mean looking staredowns in order to intimidate his opponent before a fight (much like Penn always does), it tells me that the guy needs it due to a lack somewhere in his game. The TRULY great ones do not waste their time or energy on yapping about what they're going to do. Less cockiness and more humbleness..........for me, that is what separates greatness from just talent. Talent will ALWAYS come and ALWAYS go, greatness in its' truest sense is what defines a legacy. Right now, it seems to me that Penn will go down as an awsome talent, while GSP is on the road to greatness. Just my 2 cents on how I see it.

agent_smith on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:54 pm ET
Nothing to add to that, agree totally.

rxr333 on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:17 pm ET
Apperintly BJ thinks this fight will take place in a ring. I like BJ but I think with his new programing GSP will win in round 4 via rear naked choke.
I dont Know why so many peple are getting all upset about BJ saying he is going to kill GSP, if this was golf  or tennis maybe but this the sport of fighting. I have full respect for the honorable fighters like Fedor or Machida but I also enjoy seeing the fighters that just love to kick ass like Babalu or Rampage.

Sometimes you gotta just whip that ass!

Ill be pullin for BJ but I think GSP will take this one. 


AfflictionJones on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:20 pm ET
Cannot wait until GSP punishes Penn back to meth land(Hawai'i)

filmassa on Jan 14, 2009 at 11:35 pm ET
I liked the show alot. It wasent as good as hbo 24/7 but close enough.

WuxiFingerHold on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:28 am ET
All that kill'em talk, is just hype from BJ. Sure Dana encourages it to sell tix.

Both are Hall of Famers. If Serra can KO GSP, BJ sure got a punchers chance. And no one has mentioned the fact that GSP couldn't finish Fitch, why would anyone think he can finish BJ? I see GSP getting the decision unless BJ catches him early in the fight.

D34n0 on Jan 15, 2009 at 8:58 am ET
Both are Hall of Famers? In which sport?

WuxiFingerHold on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:29 am ET
GSP couldn't finish Koschek either.

rxr333 on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:47 am ET
I don't think GSP is going to try and finish BJ standing, GSP got busted up last time so I see him trying to control BJ on the ground with his wrestling, eventually getting his back and finishing.

ThunderCat on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:00 am ET
This is exactly why some people love penn and why some don't. I happen to fall on the side that don't. Don't get me wrong. I respect his skills. Its the attitude and his on and off work ethic. He most definitely isn't slacking for this fight. I believe that. He knows that if he gasses @ all against GSP and his very high cardio/aggression he will be done. I still believe GSP will win,albeit,after a very tough fight that very well could go the distance. As far as the statement "I'm going to try to kill you", that's just ignorant in so many ways and not at all good for the image of mma. Martial arts has always been about respect,discipline and honor and that statement is none of these. Hype is one thing, this is entirely different.

mma_dad on Jan 15, 2009 at 2:07 am ET
I don't know if it's bad genetics or lack of response to weight training, but to look at BJ you wouldn't even know he was a fighter!  I know you don't have to look like Sean Sherk to be a great fighter, just look a Royce Gracie, but when you see BJ running down the street, he looks like an average Joe whose New Years resolution was to start jogging to lose a little chunk around the mid-section!  In contrast, GSP looks like an athelete, trains like a warrior and appears to have a tougher upbringing.  BJ's not gonna last 3 rounds, no way!

chubbs on Jan 15, 2009 at 2:19 am ET
I got my money on GSP im not a big fan of BJ Penn, Baby J better have his A game thats all i got to say. He ant going to kill no one if anyone kills anyone it GSP killing BJ in the first round lol

SKULL on Jan 15, 2009 at 2:29 am ET
GSP by Buzzsaw in the 4th. BJ overconfident and will not have the gas tank to last, again!

grappler82 on Jan 15, 2009 at 5:12 am ET
I hope GSP kills that pudgy f**k.

convicted_felon on Jan 15, 2009 at 6:46 am ET
I like al queda more than Penn.

GSP is a true world class champion with a dominate fight style, dont see him losing to this overrated fighter.

pigdogg on Jan 15, 2009 at 7:12 am ET
BJ has to finish this in the 1st or 2nd round. If not it is gonna be a long day for him. I wont be able to sit down until the 3rd for sure. It drives my wife nuts to watch me pace. I would rather all of my other favs lose this year then see BJ beat GSP.

pigdogg on Jan 15, 2009 at 7:14 am ET
Oh ya GSP 4th round by Sub. Thats right GSP is gonna choke out BJ! (i hope)

Jman on Jan 15, 2009 at 8:15 am ET
Maybe knock the inch-and-a-half of skin that Penn calls an ear off his sloth from the Goonies looking head.....but nothing personal : )

Now that is funny! He is off the charts talented but what a knothead. I hope the refs check him good before he gets into the cage, sounds like he is going to bring a weapon in to me! :)


dawg1 on Jan 15, 2009 at 8:28 am ET
Still torn about this bout.

On the one hand, I think GSP is more of a class-act and if he wins, I'll be very very happy for him.  But then I will be disappointed because Penn is so good, I'd like for him to prove to himself and the world that he is the best p4p fighter (especially if he has finally matured, and learned to be disciplined in the gym).

On the other hand if Penn wins, then as I said above that's awesome for Penn and rightfully so.  But then I'm going to bummed out for GSP who I also think could very well be THE best p4p fighter in the world. PLUS, now GSP could move up to middleweight to challenge da' spider!!!  And even though Silva is the man, I'd be rootin' for GSP all the way!!!

Pleez believe I'll be biting all my finger nails and washing it down with Pepto Bismol when BJ and GSP mix it up!!!!

roysdogpound on Jan 15, 2009 at 9:19 am ET
I'm calling this one right now based on something BJ said.

Winner:  GSP by way of TKO (strikes) @ 2:50 in the 3rd.

BJ is going to try and stand with GSP and will score with a few shots in the 1st and 2nd (Although, I think that both rounds will go to GSP or possibly ONE round going 10-9 in favor of Penn), but in the 3rd he will begin to move in closer to counter GSP's reach advantage and will get caught in the clinch with a devastating knee after which GSP will pounce and GnP to a referree stoppage.

Cagekilla on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:17 am ET
Based on something Penn said hu? Lol. Srry just that made me laugh. What my take from the show was is that although he's in Canada and not Philly we got the making of a "Rocky" story. And well deserving, Gsp is a monster and I beleive the dude has scratched and fought 4 all he has and it seems he is all about taking this seriousl. I would expect nothing less of him, the dude 's a stud. BJ as mentioned by Copper at the top of the post is doing what I beleive is "playing fakeout" with anybody who bites. Just as Mir ltr said he fueled his rumors, knowing fully that Nogs camp whther they beleived fully or not was going to hear about him not being up to par. I beleive BJ is doing the same. I for 1 do not see BJ taking this lightly and although it has started out as looking as if he wants Gsp and all the doubters to think he's taking it lightly, I think at the end of it we will see a BJ who did take it dead serious and will come out and gain both belts. I have no prob choking on my words if it proves different but we will see. I also want to note that it's pretty sad 4 some of u to keep hanging on how BJ will gas (this has not happened 4 some time now) and as far as him not looking like a fighter, plz man u dont have to have to be ripped to put a pounding on someones head. Ask Sherk if u don't beleive me. Penn won't come in sporting a belly. The dude knows what this fight will represent 4 him.

CopperHeart on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:21 am ET

Gnarcore on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:32 am ET
Penn as usual came off as a total douche but then again I expect nothing less from him. 

Cagekilla on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:39 am ET
Come now plp. I too would like to see BJ show more class but if he did then u would be upset that both fighters were being nicey nice to each other and what fun would that be. Someone has to play the jerk and BJ won the role!

agent_smith on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:50 am ET
I believe GSP when he says he trains all out all the time b/c he is worried that his opponent is training harder than him.  Pretty sure this is the way everyone thinks when they are at the top and have a belt to lose.  Probably harder to stay at the top then to get there.

I have never seen an ab on BJ in any of his fights, lol.  This could be a genetic thing though.  His flexibility could mean that his body type is just that, softer.  Kind of like how he can take good shots to the face and look fine.  Logically his skin might be as resilient as his limbs are flexible.

Kung_Foo on Jan 15, 2009 at 11:26 am ET
Not to smart saying you want to kill someone and then only train 3.5 hours a day to do it, not answer your phone on purpose when your Boss calls and have your partners lie to your boss on National TV. Then on top of it all take a 5 day vacation a month out from your biggest fight ever.


aaa808pirate on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:45 pm ET
Serra knocks GSP silly.
Penn Knocks Din Thomas,Caol Uno,Matt Huges,Joe Daddy.
Thanks to serra it will not take much to get KO'ed again.Example Salmon,Lidell,Vanderlei,Couture.
If GSP does fall, it should be downhill for his career.He should change his name from rush to glass jaw.The only way GSP can win if he just plays as a blanket from rds 1-5

Jman on Jan 15, 2009 at 1:37 pm ET
LOL...Glass jaw. He didn't even get hit in the jaw from Serra. Basically behind the ear like Couture vs. Lesnar. Besides that, he was wobbled from Serra with that punch and then took 14 or so unanswered bombs from Serra and was still conscious, getting a whoopin' but still conscious. He doesn't have a glass jaw.

Fiji_Matt on Jan 15, 2009 at 2:38 pm ET
Did any one else experience any audio/visual mismatch?  The audio was off with the visual on my set for quite a few scenes.  Was wondering if anyone else experienced the same thing.  The whole time all I could think was, "Man, Zuffa spent $2mil on this." 
Regardless, the fight should be amazing. 

Hydrostatic_Shock on Jan 15, 2009 at 3:13 pm ET
I experienced the same thing you did, sound did not match lip movement.

DocNBear on Jan 15, 2009 at 7:21 pm ET
 Regardless of how we see this fight at present remember anyone can get submitted or KTFO at anytime during the fight.

In my
Humble Opinion I see it being an exciting fight from front to back!

Problem for me is that I admire both of these tremendously gifted athletes who ARE definitley at the TOTG, insofar as MMA fighters are concerned.

That said though, gives it more of a Hype as does the Spike Promotional, all in all I will be watching with anxious anticipation, from tonights SPIKE show, up until the real BTTB MMA via UFC fight takes place... I just prefer that BJ tone his rhetoric down a tad. Where I come from Telling someone you are going to "KILL" Them before the fight; is like selling Wolf tickets, at the Local watering Hole!

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