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Elementary, my dear Watson

January 16, 2009 · 16 Comments

Sometimes a post is just too good not to link to. Like this one.

Categories: Global Warming

16 responses so far ↓

  • David B. Benson // January 16, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Thanks for sharing. :-)

  • kim // January 17, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Tell us the story about the globe that didn’t warm.

  • dhogaza // January 17, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Tell us the story about the globe that didn’t warm.

    You’re asking Tamino to open a Science Fiction thread?

  • kim // January 17, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    No, wouldn’t that be ‘Hound of the Disastrophiles’?

  • Hank Roberts // January 17, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Check those IP numbers, Tamino.

  • EliRabett // January 17, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Watch Simon Donner take up the realist’s burden

    Quite good also

  • kim // January 17, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Bunny, it is stunning how close that curve resembles the inverse of the temperature curve.

    Hank, you’re getting desperate.

  • Hank Roberts // January 17, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Chuckle. Last reply to Kim 2.0. Bye.

  • Ray Ladbury // January 17, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Kim, Did you have anything useful to contribute, or are you just going to simultaneously contend that climate scientists are all wrong about CO2 and that we have to start pumping it out as quickly as possible to avoid another ice age, as you do elsewhere?

    I should warn you: Tamino has a hair-trigger stupid filter.

  • kim // January 17, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Ray, you’re erecting straw men elsewhere. I don’t think CO2 has enough warming effect to protect us from the natural cooling cycle. Its fertilizing effect will keep a lot of people from starving until we start warming again, though.

    We are cooling, folks, for how long, even kim doesn’t know.

  • Ray Ladbury // January 18, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Kim, OK, we’ll mark you down for stupid.

  • paulm // January 18, 2009 at 1:05 am


    That’s the important figure, not 350.

    100ppm less than 280ppm CO2 ment 5 degrees cooler.

    100ppm greater than 280ppm means > 3 degrees hotter.


    We are looking in to the abyss! God Help us (if she can).

  • David B. Benson // January 18, 2009 at 1:06 am

    Tamino — That Kim again! Please banish it.


  • EliRabett // January 18, 2009 at 1:47 am

    Kim, dear, are you having a sixth degree fit?

  • Hank Roberts // January 18, 2009 at 2:48 am

    “Well, Watson, you know my methods ….”
    Perhaps working out the algorithm behind the posting would be interesting in itself; anyone got a statistical suite for analyzing blog posts for patterns in the public domain? I’m sure Wegman’s data mining group has one ….”

    Results: 33 for
    “we are cooling” +temperature +sun +kim

    32 for +kim +”we are cooling” +human produced

    Results: about 99 for
    +kim +”human produced CO2″

    Results: 2 for
    +kim +”we are cooling” +human +”produced CO2″

    Results: 3 for
    +kim +”we know” +”coming cooling” +”scientists cannot say” +2012 +co2

    Narrows it down a bit. Simple algorithm.
    Probably not Kim Dae Jung.

  • John Burgeson // January 21, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Graet story. I have shared the link with my colleagues at the American Scientific Affiliation (

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