Asian dessert with gelatin cubes, fruit, syrup ...
It's served cold in a glass or deep bowl, maybe with some small ice pieces in it. Sometimes the gelatin cubes come in different colors. The fruit often includes lychee. The syrup is on the sweet side. It's really freshing in warm weather.
Does anyone know what this dessert is called and where one can get it, preferably on its own where you don't have to order a whole meal?
I used to love another dessert on Penang's menu. It was ice cream covered with shaved ice and gelatin cubes, maybe a red bean syrup and some other stuff. I would love to know where I could get something like this too, again preferably a place where I wouldn't have to order a whole meal.
Thanks
What colors were the jelly cubes? If they were all white, they were probably almond jelly cubes, with a bit of fruit cocktail mixed in? I've had that as dessert at Chinese restaurants often, it's usually called "almond dofu" or "almond tofu" on menus.
http://www.asianfoodgrocer.com/Produc...
Was it coconut or lychee jelly? Often times, pearl milk tea shops will offer these sorts of flavored jellies in lieu of tapioca pearls, BTW. Try Quickly on Grand St. They offer a large variety of shaved ices, jellies, etc.
For the other dessert, is it ice kacang?
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kathryn May 21, 2008 06:59PM
Yes, ice kacang is right. I just read about it in wiki. I guess I'm looking for something richer than just the shaved ice so, as wiki say, something "to cater to the taste of the modern palate".
No, I know the almond jelly cubes dessert with canned fruit cocktail that gets served in Chinatown. I've actually made that myself. It's pretty good in the summer with fresh peaches. The dessert I'm looking for has different colored jelly cubes, at least some of which are translucent. Maybe some are opaque but there are definitely brightly colored ones (but they're not like regular jello - they're firmer, including compared to the almond jelly you mentioned). While the dessert isn't super fancy or elaborate, it's got more going on than the "almond tofu" you described.
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uwsgrazer May 21, 2008 07:10PM
I always make the almond jello with white wood-ear fungus along with fresh fruit. delicious delicious.
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bigjeff May 22, 2008 05:53AM
Did the colored jelly cubes have certain flavors associated with them? I'm trying to figure out if they're coffee or pineapple or whatever-flavored, as opposed to simply multi-colored to look pretty.
After last night's Top Chef, I'm now endlessly googling for bingsu, halo-halo, kakigori...
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kathryn May 22, 2008 09:25AM
Good question. They may have but, if so, the flavor was subtle. It was really the texture that stood out. It had a nice chew-y quality to it - very satisfying! Plus, I have to admit I loved the pretty and colorful look of the colored cubes ; )
Wow, I'll have to google all those terms later myself!
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uwsgrazer May 22, 2008 12:11PM
yeah halo-halo is really the king although if you do get to taiwan and try their "snow-style" shave ice, the ice used is actually made from condensed milk: just think of the possibilities! I love the large gummy topping which I only remember as . . . "cui-yuan" or something like that; pink, purple and perfectly chewy esp when cooled down by the ice. that, plus some crunchy peanuts and red bean makes for summertime simplicity at its best.
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bigjeff May 22, 2008 07:26PM
sounds great. halo-halo it is. where can I get some in NY??
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uwsgrazer May 22, 2008 08:14PM
Krystals and Renee does Halo Halo btw 69th and 70th on Roosevelt. Those colored cubes I thing are agar agar which is seaweed. Its good for lowering blood sugar levels and making you fell fuller. Its also about 80+% carbs and increases your metabolism. Its a good weight loss food.
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designerboy01 May 22, 2008 11:51PM
I have had "Halo Halo" at Elvie's Turo Turo, a small Filipino restaurant. Address = 214 First Ave (between East 12th and East 13th) in Manhattan. It's a hole-in-the-wall takeout place but I have ordered just the dessert (i.e. Halo Halo) before (as opposed to ordering entrees from their food counter).
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bearmi Jun 23, 2008 08:09PM
from the way you describe it, it might be nata de coco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nata_de_...
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yuanzhoulv Mar 31, 2009 09:30AM
Thanks, yuanzhoulv. Hard to tell without trying it. Do you know some places that serve nata de coco?
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uwsgrazer Apr 23, 2009 07:51PM
The places that sold nata de coco seem to have closed down, though you can always buy a bottle at the Asian Market on Mulberry.
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JungMann Apr 24, 2009 06:40AM
http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/4nzmVcVWZAuEucoyWPTInw?select=pU74M-HoZCNyjJhGiWMfGg
Go to Saint's Alp at 39 3rd Ave. you can have just the drinks, or snacks and then drinks. http://www.yelp.com/biz/saints-alp-te...
There are places like that in Chinatown, too.
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HLing May 21, 2008 07:23PM
I believe you may be referring to patbingsoo ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patbingsu ), which can be found in some Korean or Asian cafes/dessert places. I like the red bean "shaved ice" from Koryodang (the KTown 32nd St. location), although it is pretty pricey (considering the simple ingredients) and not the BEST, but worth the splurge once in a while...and so much better than going down the same street to get an overrated cup of Pinkberry! Variations of this dessert with different toppings and syrups are also popular in Malaysia, Philippines ("Halo-Halo"), Japan, Thailand, Singapore, etc. Good luck! ;)
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gimmeecake May 22, 2008 07:01AM
Thanks. I guess maybe what I'm looking for isn't any particular dish. Besides, it seems as if all these dishes are kind of blurring in terms what specific ingredients go into each one. I guess I like the ones that are more than just shaved ice with some syrup poured on. They're good at the beginning but then I feel as if I'm just eating ice so I like it when there are more ingredients and textures, including some sweet ones to satisfy my sweeth tooth!
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uwsgrazer May 22, 2008 12:16PM
Hey gimmeecake, I checked out Koryodang. We liked the place, I think as much (or more) for the atmosphere, if you can call it that, as for the shaved ice. You weren't kidding when you said it was pricey - eight or nine bucks for ice served in a plastic container is steep!! But it was a fun atmosphere and almost made me feel as if I had been transplanted to some Asian city in a flash. Thanks for the recommendation.
I guess what I'm still searching for is less shaved ice and more of the colorful jelly cube stuff with some beans and maybe fruit like lychee and a little bit of a sweet liquid base, I think. I'm off to HK/China next month. Maybe I'll find it there!
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uwsgrazer Jun 28, 2008 08:29AM
Besides Koryodang, Cafe Muse on the western end of Ktown also sells bingsoo. Theirs is even more expensive at $12 a pop, but served in a mega-martini glass. Sugar overload but fun!
www.orderinny.com
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xigua Jun 28, 2008 10:49AM
that koryodang bingsu was amazing! $8.99 but it was so good; very fine ice, we had the greentea and there was sweetened green tea on top of it, very fresh fruit (Well except for the canned peaches); mochi cubes great, green tea ice cream great; it was very good, practically everyone was sharing an order; I saw the coffee one and the milk ones as well.
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bigjeff Apr 24, 2009 08:57PM
The koryodang shaved ice is really good, and cheaper if you take it to go. It's the closest thing I've had to Taiwanese shaved ice in Manhattan. On a chowhounder suggestion I went to some place on Dowers once but it was not the same.
I'm game to go to Flushing for some real Taiwanese shaved ice if folks know of a good place - there must be somewhere, maybe at the mall food courts?
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windycity May 29, 2009 04:46PM
i found that koryodang to be nothing like taiwanese shave ice! i mean, of course the same elements but, just a different . . . interpretation. it was much finer the ice and what with the standard toppings, it was very much like a classy dessert whereas I always have shave ice (esp. in taiwan) at very casual "bars", in night markets (I had a lot of the very popular mango ice when it just came out in taiwan) or on the street. I continue to mourn the loss of Fortune Gourmet (right on the corner of Roosevelt and Prince) which had takeout ice that was extremely taiwanese-y (3 or 4 bucks for a bowl, a bunch of ingredients, etc.). closed at least 5 or 6 years ago but it was the best.
recently, I did have an ice at Ice Fire Land and I thought it was alright (red bean, cui-yuan, crunchy peanuts, condensed milk, grass jelly). The Flushing Food Court has a big sloppy one too. But yes, the perpetual hunt goes on for that elusive taiwanese ice, especially the "xue-bing" or snow ice where the ice is made from condensed milk; DAMN!
EDIT: just poking around at my post from 3 years ago, asking on the same thing!
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/272493
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bigjeff May 29, 2009 05:17PM
Yes - at the Flushing Mall, 13333 39th Ave.
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kathryn May 29, 2009 05:18PM
Anyone tried the bingsu at Ele (f.k.a. Cafe Muse) down the block from Koryodang? A sign on the door touts it as "famous," whatever that means.
31 W 32nd St, New York, NY 10001, USA
43 W 32nd St, New York, NY 10001, USA
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squid kun Jun 02, 2009 09:54AM
ya i been waiting to try it but when I went a few weeks ago, they said it wasn't ready yet so at least they are staying "true" by offering it only during the warmer months. all I know is that it's $12, served in a giant martini glass and has cereal. that'll be my next bing soo!
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bigjeff Jun 02, 2009 12:29PM
are you saying you're looking for a new place aside from Penang? cendol also has the gelatinous stuff in it. you can see their menu on menupages.com
And at Penang you can get just dessert. I've done that before.
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sedela May 22, 2008 08:10AM
sedela, is Cendol the name of the restaurant? I couldn't find it on menupages or even in a google search
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uwsgrazer May 22, 2008 06:44PM
cendol's the name of the dessert, actually.
cafe swish up by columbia has cendol, along with colored jelly drinks and shaved ice with various toppings. i've never had any of the above, there, though and remember the savory food being pretty poor.
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cimui Jun 23, 2008 08:16PM
Thanks, cimui. I'll have to check out Swish again the next time I'm up there. I've had the bubble tea before and ate dinner there once. It was okay but I guess since I never returned that is revealing.
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uwsgrazer Jun 28, 2008 08:10AM
been eating lot's of cendol; the one at new malaysia is served in a parfait glass, the one at java village in elmhurst is a drink with no shaved ice, and so far, the one at singapore cafe is the favorite; shave ice with red bean, the sugar syrup, along with condensed milk and the cendol bits. know of any other good ones? how about the one at laut; fancy? or skyway's?
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bigjeff Apr 24, 2009 08:56PM
FYI halo halo will be available at the Phillipine Independence Day Festival on June 7.
June 7, 10 a.m. to 6 p.m., Madison Avenue between 24th and 26th Streets
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/din...
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kathryn May 26, 2009 06:45PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/din... describes a similar sounding dessert that will be available at Burmese festival.
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lawgirl1984 May 27, 2009 07:02AM
ya they got good dessert at that thing; the bright sea-foam green falooda is an amazingly thick dessert that you wonder how it can be liquid yet so substantial at the same time.
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bigjeff May 27, 2009 09:58AM
yay! other people like weird dessert asian jelly things too!
i've gotten taiwanese 'tchwa bing' at different places around in chinatown, like those cafes near mott or around grand (green tea cafe, quickly, etc.)
always like to end my meals at Rai Rai Ken ramen bar with some old skool almond jelly with fruit cocktail. reminds me of the big parties all the chinese parents used to throw...that was a staple potluck dessert.
Variations on what I know as shaved ice at: Cafe Zaiya & also at the Korean coffee spot mentioned earlier on 32nd st...though at $8 a pop, it's kind of pricey for what is essentially street-style dessert.
Also some great colorful-jelly-cubey things with condensed milk and your choice of other delicious drinks (eg, avocado shake) at Nha Trang, the vietnamese restaurant on baxter. This is less of a dessert and more of a desserty drink.
And lastly, this is out of manhattan- but the halo halo at filipino BBQ spot Ihawan in Jackson Heights is delish. I imagine you could find something similar at Krystals, Elvie's, or Pistahan.
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emilia Jun 02, 2009 08:50PM
Krystal's and Pistahan both closed.
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kathryn Jun 02, 2009 08:58PM
nooo! bummer. that was short lived for pistahan...
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emilia Jun 02, 2009 09:16PM